RE: (313) Format, Mystics, Artists, Business, Ron Murphy
Interesting article on the subject here esp with a view on distribution. http://datacide.c8.com/the-end-of-vinyl-again/#more-1163 (Kent could you let me know if you get this to your Gmail account, It might go into your spam folder cos of the disclaimer which is auto inserted into the footer. If this is the case Ill start using my Gmail account to post to 313) Rav. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 March 2009 20:32 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Format, Mystics, Artists, Business, Ron Murphy Reminds me of something Ron Murphy told me -- like a lot of things, something he probably said to a lot of other people as well. You have to decide whether you're going to be an artist or a businessman. You have to be a businessman to make any money at music. It's fallacious to assume that if you lose money you're an artist, but I can dream, can't I? On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Tristan Watkins phonop...@googlemail.com wrote: Yeah, I do understand those reasons as an artist, but the more we're talking about this the more I'm wondering if these aren't purely the concerns of the artist rather than the label - meaning: artist-run labels are the ones that would be less likely to distribute digitally. To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
Re: (313) Record packaging [was: (313) mysticism in electronic music (and where has it gone)]
On 18 Mar 2009, at 20:20, Tristan Watkins wrote: On 18/03/2009 03:30, JT Stewart wrote: Louis said everything I was going to say (and better) in my response to Tristan. Yeah, I do understand those reasons as an artist, but the more we're talking about this the more I'm wondering if these aren't purely the concerns of the artist rather than the label - meaning: artist-run labels are the ones that would be less likely to distribute digitally. Put another way, I reckon this discussion is really about the relationship between the label and the consumer rather than the artist and the listener, if you see what I mean? In cases where the artist is the label, this gets much murkier. Perhaps a bit simplistically, or maybe just wrongly, I've always thought that it was the label's job to provide me with the output of the artists that they represent - thus my confusion about some of them not wanting to sell stuff to me. I complete disagree with this I've always thought that it was the label's job to provide me with the output of the artists, this is just consumer/brand infection, I'm a weapon of mass consumption and I have the right BS, some things are just not products. That's my view anyways. m
Re: (313) mysticism, artists DEMF pre-lineup
the black dog would be a no-brainer too. hell, maybe something could be worked out with fred giannelli for a PTV reunion. vapourspace and cusp always had mystical and alchemical undertones as well... On 18March2009, at 19:22 , Frank Glazer wrote: and drum club while you're at it. speaking of which, why hasn't andy weatherall played the d yet??? On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:21 PM, jdmo...@frontiernet.net wrote: DO: convince psychic warriors ov gaia to get back together and book for a live PA -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
RE: (313) A-Trak/The Martian
You mean *The* 'The Martian' Andrew? :) A new one? Ta, Ken -Original Message- From: Andrew Duke [mailto:and...@andrew-duke.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:50 AM To: list 313 Subject: (313) A-Trak/The Martian Forthcoming Fabric mix by A-Trak has a track from the Martian on it. Andrew -- Andrew Duke In The Mix weekly mixshow (est. 1987), excl. DJ mixes, PAs, interviews: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/AndrewDukeInTheMix.html sound design and music content provider: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/sounddesignandmusic.html sound design, music, production, DJ courses: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html http://myspace.com/andrewduke http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1614666166 http://www.discogs.com/artist/Andrew+Duke http://www.residentadvisor.net/dj-page.aspx?id=5947 Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks 57 Hastings Drive Dartmouth NS Canada B2Y 2C7
(313) Drexciya - Youtube
Drexciya interview with Liz Copeland. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-LoZho4HC8 Rav. To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
Re: (313) Record packaging [was: (313) mysticism in electronic music (and where has it gone)]
I complete disagree with this I've always thought that it was the label's job to provide me with the output of the artists, this is just consumer/brand infection, I'm a weapon of mass consumption and I have the right BS, some things are just not products. I absolutely agree. That was offensive to me. Job?! I don't want another stinkin' job
(313) (London ) 4th April 2009 - Süd Electronic With Move D Portable/Bodycode
hi folks just a quick heads up for our first party for 2009 . Süd Electronic With Move D Portable/Bodycode On A Funktion 1 Line Up : Move D - Live Set 3hr Dj Set ( Source , Uzuri , Dial , Compost , Philpot , Mule , Running Back , Modern Love ) Portable/Bodycode - Live set ( Perlon , Musik Krause , Süd , Spectral , Yore , Scape , Karat ) Support Dj : Lakuti ( Uzuri , Süd ) Visuals By Valero Doval : http://www.valerodoval.com/ Date : 4th April 2009 Times : 10 pm - Late Venue : Somewhere in Dalston ! Full venue details to be revealed nearer the date via i...@sudelectronic.com Door Charge : £10 Advance tickets from : http://www.wegottickets.com/event/45561 Otherwise £12 on the door and subject to availability . Infoline : 07853371939 Email : i...@sudelectronic.com You can get to the full blurb for the event via : http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=feedid=543046567#/event.php?eid=67917004536ref=ts hope some of you can make it ! cheers lerato
Re: (313) Record packaging [was: (313) mysticism in electronic music (and where has it gone)]
On 19 Mar 2009, at 13:23, JT Stewart wrote: I complete disagree with this I've always thought that it was the label's job to provide me with the output of the artists, this is just consumer/brand infection, I'm a weapon of mass consumption and I have the right BS, some things are just not products. I absolutely agree. That was offensive to me. Job?! I don't want another stinkin' job I wasn't offended, I know where Tristan is coming from. I'm just glad people like him are still buying music rather than just D/Ling, it's just sad to see something we cherish being treated like a fcuking Pop Tart... One of the things we are doing with Dust Science later this year is offering people a CDr with wav's on for free if they buy 12s from our store. That should help some people and if you like the idea, steal it for your label for free :) m
(313) Octave One Test Pattern
Tomorrow night I am hosting a one hour program of Octave One, plus an interview with Lawrence Burden in which he talks about his live experiences; the history of his label, 430 West; his band's new album; and his favorite remix project. It starts at 6PM Eastern time; you can listen on your radio in the Boston area on WZBC 90.3 FM or online at www.wzbc.org. -- matt kane's brain techno radio at: http://hydrogenproject.com http://wzbc.org capoeira in boston http://capoeirageraisboston.com aim - mkbatwerk ; y! - mkb218 ; gtalk - mkb.dirtyorg
Re: (313) Record packaging [was: (313) mysticism in electronic music (and where has it gone)]
I absolutely agree. That was offensive to me. Job?! I don't want another stinkin' job I wasn't offended, I know where Tristan is coming from. Me too. I was kidding about being lazy.
(313) Kraftwerk at the Manchester Velodrome(!) July 2nd
Manchester International Festival Thursday, July 2 2009 Kraftwerk http://www.mif.co.uk/events/kraftwerk/ Good venue eh? - Greg
Re: (313) Kraftwerk at the Manchester Velodrome(!) July 2nd
woo! I'm there. Thanks for the heads up Greg! robin... On 19 Mar 2009, at 18:21, Greg Earle wrote: Manchester International Festival Thursday, July 2 2009 Kraftwerk http://www.mif.co.uk/events/kraftwerk/ Good venue eh? - Greg
Re: (313) mysticism, artists DEMF pre-lineup
maybe something could be worked out with fred giannelli for a PTV reunion LOL /me waits for fred's response...
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
don't hire scantily clad ladies to dance like idiots in front of the djs. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
DO have more people in fluro, furry and baggy clothing w/ oversized hats. ;) On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: don't hire scantily clad ladies to dance like idiots in front of the djs. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
(313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special
WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
exactly On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:10 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: Why? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:58 pm Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups don't hire scantily clad ladies to dance like idiots in front of the djs. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special
For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg
RE: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special
Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg
Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special
you get to be teabagged by your superstar dj of choice On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Holly Macdonald-Korth hko...@jwkorth.com wrote: Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
RE: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special
Well, then I'm in... -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:cpe1704...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:23 PM To: Holly Macdonald-Korth Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special you get to be teabagged by your superstar dj of choice On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Holly Macdonald-Korth hko...@jwkorth.com wrote: Does anyone know what a VIP pass entails? Doesn't say much on want tickets... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 9:05 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Movement Festival pre-sale - $35 early-bird special For a 3 day festival of this caliber, you can't argue with the price. Though i have a bone to pick with the Shorecrest. A double room is up to $130 a night. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: WanTickets has a couple of links up for Festival tickets already. One is for VIP and the other is an early-bird special - a weekend pass for $35.00 (about £24, UK'ers): http://www.wantickets.com/EventDetail.aspx?e_id=54349 Gotta hurry though - deadline for purchase at that price is 8:45 AM EDT next Monday morning, March 23rd! (Nothing like being put on the spot - I hadn't even thought about plane flights yet) - Greg -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
One more Don't: No megastars who mostly made their fame reworking other people's stuff and passing it off as fresh jumping up on the tables and clapping their hands to get the crowd into their tired mix of ravetastic anthems. Do I make myself clear? fh
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
if you don't understand why scantily clad hos don't belong on stage at the DEMF, i don't know what to tell you. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:03 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: I'm still not getting it. Would it be better if they danced intelligently? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: poivren...@aim.com Cc: chaircrus...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 1:10 am Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups exactly On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:10 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: Why? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:58 pm Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups don't hire scantily clad ladies to dance like idiots in front of the djs. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) mysticism in electronic music (and where has it gone)
I can relate to what you've said below. I have a particular fondness for the ambient techno/trance/house/jungle of that general period. The sound of that era is more or less gone, but I think that mindset persists and still appears in contemporary musical forms. As far as relatively recent intelligent goes, off the top of my head, I can think of Isolee, Mike Shannon, Bruno Pronsato, Tupperware, Carter Tutti (aka Chris Cosey), Boxcutter, Skull Disco, Texas Faggott, Stewart Walker, Paradox, Gescom, Burial, Sutekh, Horsepower Productions, Troll Scientists, Illusion of Safety, Flying Lotus, etc. The early 90s is as gone as the early 80s, the roaring 1920s, the early Romantic, high Baroque and rockin' 13th century. There never will be another period like those because the factors that made them what they were have passed. No biggie. There are tons of eras gone by, if you think about it, yet there is still good music to be found. For me, it doesn't matter so much that those eras are gone because the music from those time periods is still close to my heart and so never sounds or feels old to me. It is still part of my living present, as much as the newer things I like are. Finding new music that grabs me has always required a lot of sifting through musical mediocrity. Some period have more spurts of innovation than others, but it still requires that I keep my ears open since it is always possible that someone can serve up everything I like about Atom Heart, Vulva, Air Liquide, PWOG, etc without being derivative, retro or nostalgic. Michael Kuszynski wrote: Maybe I am simply reaching a little too hard to get back to what makes me an ardent follower of FSOL or the ambient techno electronica universe of futurist, space age, on-the-dawn-of-a-new-era mysticism that I found so appealing as a youth and as it carried me through to now, but I am having a hard time floating through what music is now and how to find things that continue reshaping the order of my world in regards to recorded sound. I feel like all I can do is feel like there's an era gone by, but I'm not sure what there is as a music after techno? (or ambient / uk electronic, what have you). Also - I am unsure if I am simply a victim of my own obscured frame of reference which is defined by my own transition from being an active fanatic and always listening to music and working on synths non stop when I was younger to having entered real life (work, corporations) and reliving days gone by. Maybe they are simply gone by for me, and my own attitude is that of an old timer (even if I'm young) saying that there will never be another this or that, or that music is over, etc. Maybe there is always people doing interesting things, building scenes, and achieving breathtaking aural and all encompassing art, but this is just a mood I am in now on this reflective Sunday. Any thoughts? I know my reference to FSOL or classic early 90s electronic techno ambient what have you isn't explicit Detroit relevant, but I think many can identify to these themes. The below definitely reference detroit artists, and they even speak! part 2: - FYI - I am double posting from another friend's list, but check this out, if you haven't yet: http://www.subrosa.net/online/main_dr_catalogue_electronics_detail.php?AlbumID=76 you can even listen to it for free before buying on this thing called deezer: http://www.deezer.com/en/l-r-radiomentale/i-could-never-make-that-music-again-A40541.html I Could Never Make That Music Again L-R RadioMentale with the voices of Derrick May, Stacey Pullen, Autechre, Matmos, Alec Empire, A Guy Called Gerald, Mad Mike (Underground Resistance), Coldcut, Mixmaster Morris, DJ Shadow, Kid Koala, Steve Reich, Claude Lévèque, Rioji Ikeda, Richie Hawtin, Richard James (Aphex Twin), Thomas Brinkmann, Mantronix, Christian Fennesz, Squarepusher, The Residents, Tony Morley, David Toop, Matthew Herbert, Simon Begg, Andrea Parker, Pole SR249 I Could Never Make That Music Again is a choral album, a sound collage crafted out of interviews,where artists, musicians, DJs and sound makers talk openly about their work, their visions, their hopes, their moments of doubts and their regrets in a loosely constructed narrative. Even though most of the people interviewed here have just met on a few occasions, they have all participated in the making of the history of electronic music; from the early tape experiments in the 1950s to the latest trends in techno.
Fwd: (313) mysticism, artists DEMF pre-lineup
Well, I'm not opposed to it but after the past couple of weeks it would cost a bundle. My mother passed away at the beginning of the month and her funeral was on my birthday. She was pissed at Genesis P-Orridge for wasting my time and not becoming sucessful so if there would ever be a PTV acid house era reunion. Gen would have to do the following. 1) Resolve his problems with his ex-wife Paula P-Orridge / Alaura O'Dell and his children. 2) Remove those stupid implants and stop looking like ... a candy colored clown they call the sandman 3) Come up with a ton of money for his ex-wife, children and myself. So don't hold your breath folks. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist - Original Message - From: /0 r3dsh...@chartermi.net To: jdmo...@frontiernet.net, 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:30:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: (313) mysticism, artists DEMF pre-lineup maybe something could be worked out with fred giannelli for a PTV reunion LOL /me waits for fred's response...
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
I like scantily clad ho's virtually anytime. Actually I can't think of anytime that im not really into scantilly clad ho's. Honestly. But im just a simple man who also laughs when someone says scantily clad. A On Fri, March 20, 2009 10:09 am, Frank Glazer wrote: if you don't understand why scantily clad hos don't belong on stage at the DEMF, i don't know what to tell you. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:03 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: I'm still not getting it. Would it be better if they danced intelligently? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: poivren...@aim.com Cc: chaircrus...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 1:10 am Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups exactly On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:10 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: Why? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:58 pm Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups don't hire scantily clad ladies to dance like idiots in front of the djs. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
i am definitely not against scantily clad hos as a rule, i'm more against the idea of paxahau ass-branded b*tches, seen? On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:45 AM, anth...@technoiraudio.com wrote: I like scantily clad ho's virtually anytime. Actually I can't think of anytime that im not really into scantilly clad ho's. Honestly. But im just a simple man who also laughs when someone says scantily clad. A On Fri, March 20, 2009 10:09 am, Frank Glazer wrote: if you don't understand why scantily clad hos don't belong on stage at the DEMF, i don't know what to tell you. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:03 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: I'm still not getting it. Would it be better if they danced intelligently? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: poivren...@aim.com Cc: chaircrus...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 1:10 am Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups exactly On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:10 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: Why? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:58 pm Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups don't hire scantily clad ladies to dance like idiots in front of the djs. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups
i am definitely not against scantily clad hos as a rule, i'm more against the idea of paxahau a$$-branded b*tches, seen? On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:45 AM, anth...@technoiraudio.com wrote: I like scantily clad ho's virtually anytime. Actually I can't think of anytime that im not really into scantilly clad ho's. Honestly. But im just a simple man who also laughs when someone says scantily clad. A On Fri, March 20, 2009 10:09 am, Frank Glazer wrote: if you don't understand why scantily clad hos don't belong on stage at the DEMF, i don't know what to tell you. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:03 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: I'm still not getting it. Would it be better if they danced intelligently? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: poivren...@aim.com Cc: chaircrus...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 1:10 am Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups exactly On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:10 PM, poivren...@aim.com wrote: Why? -Original Message- From: Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com To: kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:58 pm Subject: Re: (313) official 313 list do's and don'ts of DEMF line-ups don't hire scantily clad ladies to dance like idiots in front of the djs. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:26 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: DO: Include Detroit DJs and Artists. Genre not important as long as contemporary with some electronic elements. e.g. Slum Village, but not a Detroit Polka band. Include International artists and DJs whose music is either Detroit influenced, or is interesting and enjoyable in it's own right and not too far from the core focus on electronic music. E.g. Tortoise and Autechre were good DEMF bookings. Include the best proponents of new dance music genres. E.g. Burial would be a good booking. Give him a Luchador mask to wear if he's still feeling bashful. DON'T: Book Trance DJs. Trance music -- regardless of nation or city of origin -- is the opposite of Techno, and the opposite of good music, for that matter. Book a DJ/Producer who don't actually make the music they release under their names. Book any Big-room, Ibiza-DJing, Coked-out, Primadonna Bullsh1t DJs. Now it's tough to balance financial prudence with artistic integrity, and arguably Paxahau has mostly done OK. But the only rightful place for Benny Benassi at DEMF would be in a dunk tank. -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com Great Deals on Dell 15 Laptops - Starting at $479 -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
