For Ani at Recordtime (delete)
Ani at recordtime please e-me. I'm sorry everybody for posting this. Five
Vinyl Tour
Is there anywhere in Detroit that I can go and get a vinyl pressing tour??? Just to see how they make the records? thank you, Five
Re: [313] Betr.: [313] 313 rumor...
so why did Atkin's drug addiction need to be mentioned at all??? what does that have to do with Recloose Why couldn't you have just asked the question about Recloose without mentioning that B*t???
Publications
hi, can anyone recommend the best house publications of all time??? I read in Toop's Ocean of Sound that he did an underground thing for a while in the 80's??? Or techno publications thanx Five
Ian O'Brien
the lowdown on Ian O'Brien??? discography??? thank you, Five
Re: [313] Acid House?
Yeah Record Time in Roseville has some stuff. Was listening to We Are the Phuture today. Five
Re: [313] not black enough
when I say rhythm I 'm talking about rhythm as a focal point versus melody. That is an African musical concept. And if it's Latino influenced that's still African. Where do you think they get their stuff from??? Rhythim is Rhythim, Five
Re: [313] I saw the future...
NEVER.
Re: [313] Old UR album
I'd be interested to buy one of these Five
Re: [313] Juan Atkins....
whether Juan Atkins has a drug problem or not is none of our business and has nothing to do with his music. This list about music, not people's personal problems. and if a great musician does have a problem, what are the fans supposed to do??? corner Miles Davis after the show and give him a speech or do a fan based intervention Most of us on this list don't even know him and if we did we wouldn't be spreading gossip on some weblist. It's none of our business and quite irrelavent. grossed out Five
Re: [313] not black enough
American radio just like everything in America is divided into White and Black. Detroit Techno is not considered Black because it is not embraced by Vibe magazine or programmed onto R B station formats. Rock and Roll is seen as a white music even though its innovators are Black ;Chuck Berry, Ike Turner, and others. So that a Black rock, funk and roll band like Fishbone (all Black band) can not be sold to the public by most marketing departments at major labels because they don't know how to sell this Black band doing white music. Wynton Marsalis (Black) is a superb Classical musician and a mediocre jazz player. When he won grammies one year for the best jazz and classical albums the people who run Jazz at Lincoln Center (New York CIty Jazz Program) gave him charge over that program. The implication is that they would rather have a Black man in charge of Black music like jazz instead of a White music like classical. Comprendre Five
Re: [313] Acid House?
How is the bandwagon thing prevalent in house??
Rare Records
hi all: I'm looking for some rare house records, does anybody have any good sources for this type of thing thank you, Five
Stupid Question
Hello All: I am a native Detroiter. I love all the 313 artists that we talk about on this list. I am sad, jealous, and frustrated that everywhere else in the world gets to attend parties Djed' by these marvelous artists except those of us actually in the 313 I know that it's about radio, and major label support here in the US, for artists to succeed. But I refuse to accept the way things are now for what they will be from now on I love all kinds of music; Afrobeat, house, RB, rock, jazz, P-Funk and a little reggae. But why can't I go out right here in Detroit and see Moodymann??? The DEMF was an anomaly, and unfortunately I wasn't here for that but I did download lots of the archived webcasts (big-ups to Groovetech). But I know in the beginning Techno was something that lots of Black kids enjoyed at places like the Music Insititute. I never went but I got into house a few years later (Ken Collier). Now when I go see Derrick May at Motor it's mostly white kids with glowsticks. Now that's cool but I don't like the way it seems this music is marketed as being white and I know that has a lot to do with the bullshit at places like Vibe magazine. Then the Black kids think that techno is it Black enough like house??? I mean I understand if you just prefer house but it seems that lots of people are not even open to techno. It's like a lot of people black out on the fact that Ron Trent's biggest record Altered States was actually rooted in Detroit Techno??? See Juan Atkins' interview in URB millenium future issue. I just find the way things are to be kind of strange. It's just music made you to heal your body when you move??? and yet having a good party here is like finding a needle in a haystack. I went to Queens on Decks last night at the State Theater. The women played well, although I missed Dj Genesis. But no one was there But I also notice that with some not all white crowds, Derrick and others turn into a spectacle; i.e. there is more watching th edj by the sidelines rather than dancing. This music is for everyone and maybe if these media outlets weren't so full of it, we could all be at these parties together, like right here in Detroit. I'm really sad about the way it is in Detroit right now, but I will keep buying the records and going to the events. anybody have any thoughts they wanna share on this??? Peace, Five
Re: [313] ?
I agree with that. Derrick May says in the Innovator linear notes that Duke Ellington's music was the techno of its day. Five
Re: [313] the creator
yes Omar Bin Hassan (The Last Poets) did not record that speech.
Last Night
I missed Mike, but Theo and Kerri were good. But the crowd left a lot to be desired. We talked about this record before that Theo played at the DEMF. It's called I Can't It and it is his new record which he said will be out in two weeks (counting the days). I'm looking forward to Wednesday but I hope the crowd is more lively.
No Subject
I'm sure this has been covered before, but could someone please provide some info about the major machines used in Detroit techno music production?? the old stuff and new??? thank you, Five
Re: [313] Ford and Atkins
what does everyone think about this?
No Subject
how can I buy the Jaguar video/CD Rom here in Detroit???
Mac Software
Could anyone recommend their favorite music making software programs for the Macintosh computer thank you, Five
Re: [313] (relatively) unknown detroiters
I could be wrong be these guys are pretty well known??? What does the list think? On that note do you have have Kenny Dixon Jr. records in stock? if not when do you get the re-stock whic location are you at?
Re: [313] (relatively) unknown detroiters
Double Big-Ups to the Groovetech people. They captured history and made media history in the process of streaming it. but yes, I feel that outside of us on the list or dance music lovers in general I am learning that these artists are largely unknown. This is why the person who works at Record Time's post was interesting to me because I assumed (never do that) that these creators were widely recognized. Especially customers at Record Time in Roseville. But I must remember that was just some of us in the dance music room there. Peace, Five
Re: [313] Moodymann: Forevernevermore
where can I get this stuff in Detroit??? I only have Maghony Brown and Silent Introduction
Re: [313] Moodymann: Forevernevermore
oh yes, VERY GOOD. I just want EVERYTHING that's all :-)
Re: [313] looking for saunderson-like tracks!
I LOVE those records too
Re: [313] disco mix online
In a message dated 10/9/00 11:34:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.umich.edu/~pbleidy/music checking it out now thanks. Five
Re: [313] Re: Mixing and musical structure
well, thank you for sharing that because I'm getting my other Technics soon. Someone showed me how to beat match by counting and that seemed kind of complicated but who knows maybe I will count once I start to spin at home But I am definitely more into feelings about everything. Five
Re: [313] easy listening interpretation of Kraftwerk songs
hey I just picked-up his Kraftwerk covers a couple of weeks ago!!! Excellent. I am definitely interested in hearing more of his stuffthanks for sharing the info. FIve
Re: [313] best dj???
is it possible for me to get any Ron Hardy mixes? I heard one on a website a while ago. Five
Re: [313] mills silliness
thank you for sharing this dialogue with us. I look forward to reading your piece. Five
Re: [313] Hip-hop
yeah I saw her perform on The Chris Rock show and French Kiss was in the background. I really like her first album and image but she looks horrible now and that first single is garbage. I hope her career didn't die with Biggie. Five
Re: [313] women and electronic music
don't know anything aboutt DJ Rap???
Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
BIOLOGICAL bullshit. From just reading the list, there are a lot women DJs out there. I haven't heard of all these women but I'm about to log on to the sisterdjs.com list. The music industry like everything else is male dominated. That's probably why we/I don't know about these women. They are out there but who's promoting them? KHand had to stop to giving info to this list because sexist men wanted to compete with her gigs. Sexism says that women Djs are not real Djs. Five
Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
IOLOGICAL bullshit. From just reading the list, there are a lot women DJs out there. I haven't heard of all these women but I'm about to log on to the sisterdjs.com list. The music industry like everything else is male dominated. That's probably why we/I don't know about these women. They are out there but who's promoting them? KHand had to stop to giving info to this list because sexist men wanted to compete with her gigs. Sexism says that women Djs are not real Djs. Five
Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
thanks for sharing that Maia. Let us know when you are spinning again. I hear you. Five
Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
you know some nice guys.
Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
hm is that right?
Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
yeah I read Artbyte and I liked their issue on Wired Women. Five
Hip-hop
I know this is off topic but does anyone know where to buy underground hip-hop in Detroit??? I went to Lifesoundtrax today and it was cool. thanks again, Five
Re: [313] Re: Moodymann in NYC
this record says Analog Live on one side and Rehearsals 8/8/00 I'm guessing it's a promo peace, five
Re: [313] Re: Moodymann in NYC
hey but I want that one too!!!
Re: [313] carl craig track id
that does sound like Sting.
Re: [313] mills silliness
I saw him there in August but I didn't see a barrel
website for Larry Heard
is there a good website for Larry Heard and his catalog??? thanks, five
Re: [313] mills silliness
LOL.
Re: [313] mills silliness
Jeff lives in Chicago? I thought he moved to Berlin??? Five
Re: [313] Carl Craig/Moodymann in NYC : Opinions?
welll, that's funny you say that about Moodymann and his Princeisms, I took a girlfriend with me who doesn't know this music and she thought he was dramatic and hilarious She also thought the same thing about C.C. I saw a friend there who felt that it should have been held in a smaller venue since it was so conceptual I must admit that I love the music but that I expected more probably because I am caught-up in live performance norms (Prince! Femi Kuti etc.) which is inappropriate because this is a different kind of music. I got one of the records that Moodymann passed out but I haven't played it yet I only stayed for 30 minutes of Carl's set because I had to get-up early in the morning and drive back to Detroit!! but he is dramatic and I liked he light show behind him. I am learning a vocabulary to speak in about these kinds of shows so I hope I've said something worthwhile. But I can say that I LOVE DJ Hannah, she plays soulful disco, techno, R B and house classics. She is one of my favorite DJs and that was my second time hearing her outside of the DEMF archived webcast. now that I'm home, where do I go? and I want some old records ( R B, disco, house,techno)cheap. :-) Peace, Five
Re: [313] Re: Madonna (313 and Broadcast Media)
I have never liked Madonna but I must check these tracks out that you all speak of the best thing was the Masters At Work remix of Erotica which she hated (she said she sounded like a chipmunk) but I will check it out.
Re: [313] Theo Parrish
h I wonder which one it is But I want it. Five
Re: [313] Theo Parrish/Song ID
Please doI'm fiending for this track. Five
Re: [313] 313 and Broadcast Media
it's funny because here in the U.S. lots of people do feel that Jeff Mills or May are not Black music. But then these other places try to erase their ethnicity because techno artists lack the same kind of image as other urban Black music. But Detroit techno is Black. I tell people who are afraid of these records that if they like P-Funk they will like 313 music. It's funny because a nice person on this list sent me an article on Jeff where he talked about the race issue. For them it's like a double-edged sword. And I can understand their frustration because it appears that they are able to succeed outside the U.S. because they are not really Black. but within the U.S. they are not Black enough. Stupid stereotypes and their racist insititutions never go away. I guess that's why hip-hop is so fascinating because even in some very racist countries it is still a desired cultural commodity. So that even though some Asian countries still wonder where Black people hide their tails they still buy Busta Rhymes CDs. disgusted, Five
Re: [313] NYC Events this weekend
what do you want??? what kind of music/activity do you want? Five
Theo Parrish
I know this has been asked before, but the answer was not definitive. What is that song that Theo plays on the second part of his set at the DEMF I Can't take it no more, I can't stand it no more thanks, Five
Re: [313] planet e mix cd stuff
LOL @ cover comment.
Re: [313] LTT-Innerzone
how so you feel that the social history of jazz and techno are similar???
Re: [313] innovation? Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
when you say the African-American musical tradition, what do you mean specifically?? like elements of this tradition are you referring to Surely there is nothing new under the sun and we could never pinpoint who truly innovated stuff; maybe someone else emphasized rhythm like James Brown but did not have the resources to make the records. I guess elevens and thirteenths already existed but Charlie Parker used them differentlyand the be-boppers formed a nexus. Kodwo Eshun talks about how music is its own genesis and that musical movements can not be relegated to history but, I think it is somewhere in between. I'm still thinking about this one...I don't know that anyone did what Jimi Hendrix did before him but maybe differents artists had ideas but were not able to carry them out. still thinking about why we call people innovators and of course things are always contextual. Five
Re: [313] KDJ
when will it be availible here in the US? WHERE is the best place to get all his stuff, I ask this because people are always talking about how difficult his stuff is to find. Five
Re: [313] THEO PARRISH
Please tell us, that track is hot. I want it. peace,
Re: [313] THEO PARRISH
I didn't know that Mike Himes (Record Time) had a label Five
Re: [313] Let's Talk Techno
I say yes The Quest must be included :-) but I don't know Moodymann's Forevernevermore??? I want to check it out. Peace, Five
Re: [313] Re: Total Recorder QUESTION
I'm replying
No Subject
on the download from the lovely Groovetech (never gives MY mac a problem) Theo Parrish's set from the DEMF...he plays this tune on part two that goes lke this.I can't take it no more, no moreI can't stand it no more no more WHAT IS THAT??? thanks, Five
Re: [313] KMS track id?
Powerbass is Baaad
Re: [313] mills vs .ca
excuse me, but what are you all talking about??? as far as Jeff Mills is concerned???
Re: [313] K.Hand 313 Update-For those who should know
?
Re: [313] K.Hand 313 Update-For those who should know
maybe so. I just don't understand how someone can take another person's date if it is already confirmed maybe you are right, a stalker.
Re: [313] K.Hand 313 Update-For those who should know
how does that work??? I don't understand sounds really silly
Re: [313] reviews
is that first song titled in reference to Omar the UK singer
Re: [313] mills metropolis
I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE JEFF'S VERSION! I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. WE NEED TO MAKE SOME MOVIES FOR DETROIT TECHNO MUSIC I LOVE IT PEACE, FIVE
Re: [313] Derrick/Collette
again WHO are all these people hating on D.May (came in on the convo late) Five
Re: [313] Live In Detroit 1999 Tracklisting.
I want one too
Re: [313] Re: anyone know? - urb dont know
Hi all, I USED to be a reader of URB magazine. I think they do have an interest in Future Music Culture but it seems to be White Future Music Culture. It seems to have lots of tidbits about this and that but very white. There is a whole heritage of stuff that should be covered in -depth around this music. I think Derrick described his music as Kraftwerk meets Funkadelic in the elevator. Carl Craig said they wanted to make music that wouldn't be classified as ghetto, funny but Detroit Techno seems to be ghettoized. Like it's something for white people or music obscurists... I don't know It seems to me that the overall lack of American media coverage on Detroit techno has a lot to do with racism. If Juan, Derrick or Kevin were white I really believe them, their work, and things like the DEMF would have more respect. I think the DEMF was a great thing and I just regret that I wasn't there but thank God for archived webcasts. I think the Detroit News gave it its biggest coverage to my knowledge and even some that was suspect. Peace, Five
Jeff Mills
does anybody have any citations on articles written about Jeff Mills??? thanks
No Subject
Jeff Mills at Limelight in New York City was very nice last night. I will go see him again and again.
Re: [313] No Subject
really wow. Well I really enjoyed her set, Kenny Dixon and Theo Parrish. I still have to download the others. Stacey Hale was disappointing and I'll have to listen again.
Re: [313] No Subject
Saturday, unless there is more?
Re: [313] Theo Parrish mixes tracklisting
Never Too Much
Re: [313] Thomas Brinkmann new CD
this is about a Moodymann mixed CD or does he have a new CD? Peace, Five
Re: [313] Thomas Brinkmann new CD
has somebody heard his LP? and by the way, I know this has been mentioned before but, could someone turn me on to a good source for Detroit music. I am in the United States and I'm interested in stuff that may not come out over here. thank you so much, Five
Re: [313] Fw: [313] Theo Parrish mixes tracklisting
this sounds good, I haven't heard this yet. How old are these releases? thanks Five
No Subject
on the download from the DEMF, Hannah plays this track that goes something like this; whatever you do , don't be late...don't be too late...something something don't hesistate it's Black men singing and it's hot. Anybody know, I want that track. I wouldn't mind the whole track listing. Peace, Five
No Subject
could someone please post the info about Derrick May's webcast this weekend in Detroit?? thank you, Five
Re: [313] Different genres
any suggestions on Mac software to make music with???
No Subject
what's the difference between house and techno music technology?
