RE: (313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London

2007-01-06 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Is this a one off?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hgxiQIDq6zomode=relatedsearch=

pretty amazing for an airport...

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From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2007 2:03 a.m.
To: Svagr, Jodie; Ronny Pries; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London

In time for Convextion in London...  ;)



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Sent: 05 January 2007 13:00
To: Ronny Pries; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Low Aifare to Detroit from London


Hey everyone, got this email through from NorthWest airlines.  Travel
between Detroit and London is $189 right now. Have to book by the 9th
and travel by March 12th tho.  Still a good price tho if anyone's
planning a trip.

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RE: (313) Mr. Watson

2006-12-06 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Loving the flutes, some bird song'd be special!

-Original Message-
From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2006 1:09 p.m.
To: Martin Dust; Thomas D. Cox,Jr.; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Mr. Watson

i like the sound of the rendezvous track, not super special, but lovely
and big...the renaissance track has a bit of a trancey  new age feeling
to it, not for me...


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From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 5, 2006 7:04 PM
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Mr. Watson

Really? The clips are a tad too short for the full vibe but this is
like
pure sunshine Tom. Some of his best work I feel. It's getting loads of
repeat play at Dust Towers...

m

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 Sound Clips:
 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF247654-01-01-01.mp3
 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF247654-01-02-01.mp3

 im just not feeling this one. first planet e in years that i wont be
 picking up (i think the last one before this was the remixes of todd
 sines' 12 back in 02.

 tom







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(313) RE: [SPAM] Re: (313) Best Synth riffs

2006-11-28 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Could never get The Pied Piper: Kinetic out of my head...or R-Theme...

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Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 3:46 a.m.
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Subject: [SPAM] Re: (313) Best Detroit Synth riffs

Groove La Chord by Aril Brikha. The main synth on this tune could very
easily played as rocking guitar riff and for me works with a similar
kind of energy.

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RE: (313) ron murphy

2006-09-21 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Do you know what he means by modulates upwards?

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Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 2:24 a.m.
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) ron murphy

Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't there a picture of Ron and some
metal mothers upstairs at Submerge?

What I always wondered -- does Mike Banks ever sneak in to the museum
at night and borrow the 909? Or are all the beatboxes in the museum
knackered?

A drum machine is a terrible thing to waste, after all...

On 9/21/06, Lee Herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If this cat's work doesn't get exhibit space at some music hall of
fame,
 it'll be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] shame.  What a craftsman.  Great podcast!

 Cheers,

 Lee R. Herrington
 U STORE IT
 Technical Support Engineer

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RE: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

This was from discogs...  Even if DeGeorgio recognizes that he resorted
to a unique sequencer, the Neutron, to reproduce the modal variations
characterizing his musical inspirations 

...i guess he'd have trouble making his music on a laptop then?

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Sent: Monday, 4 September 2006 10:04 p.m.
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laptop Debate

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Sent: 04 September 2006 10:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Laptop Debate

Yeah i can remember seeing a gearlist in some article and it is 
definitely a gearjunkies wetdream, oh and he has this:

http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com/ModcanB.htm

Now this reminds me of something I've thought for a while ...

I like Kirk a lot - he's the same age as me so he must be a good egg (!)
Plus he's one of the people I challenge myself with to see if he's ever
made a bad record. I certainly don't own any duffers by him. Problem is
- despite the fact that my record collection is peppered with his
releases from year dot, I'm not sure I can hear the spell-binding
difference in the sounds he comes up with, with that rig and the sounds
that it's possible to get from a mid-range analog/digital synth. I just
can't. I still like the last 3 LPs though, so don't get me wrong, but I
just think he could have saved himself some money or something! Just mo.

Having said that, it does illustrate that this software vs. hardware
debate currently raging is not really a 'new paradigm' problem. The same
debates could be heard between advocates and detractors of acoustic vs.
amplified, synths vs. guitars, and naturally, modular versus stand-alone
(or whatever they're called.)

So long as you know that such debates are usually futile, I guess they
can be fun and instructive.

K

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RE: (313) Laptop Debate

2006-09-04 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Ignore that, the neutron is a plug in...i thought it was an outboard
step sequencer...

-Original Message-
From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 5:07 a.m.
To: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laptop Debate


This was from discogs...  Even if DeGeorgio recognizes that he resorted
to a unique sequencer, the Neutron, to reproduce the modal variations
characterizing his musical inspirations 

...i guess he'd have trouble making his music on a laptop then?

-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, 4 September 2006 10:04 p.m.
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Laptop Debate

-Original Message-
From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: 04 September 2006 10:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Laptop Debate

Yeah i can remember seeing a gearlist in some article and it is

definitely a gearjunkies wetdream, oh and he has this:

http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com/ModcanB.htm

Now this reminds me of something I've thought for a while ...

I like Kirk a lot - he's the same age as me so he must be a good egg (!)
Plus he's one of the people I challenge myself with to see if he's ever
made a bad record. I certainly don't own any duffers by him. Problem is
- despite the fact that my record collection is peppered with his
releases from year dot, I'm not sure I can hear the spell-binding
difference in the sounds he comes up with, with that rig and the sounds
that it's possible to get from a mid-range analog/digital synth. I just
can't. I still like the last 3 LPs though, so don't get me wrong, but I
just think he could have saved himself some money or something! Just mo.

Having said that, it does illustrate that this software vs. hardware
debate currently raging is not really a 'new paradigm' problem. The same
debates could be heard between advocates and detractors of acoustic vs.
amplified, synths vs. guitars, and naturally, modular versus stand-alone
(or whatever they're called.)

So long as you know that such debates are usually futile, I guess they
can be fun and instructive.

K

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RE: (313) The Laptop Debate - the imitation of sound

2006-09-03 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

I'm confused now. Can someone summarise or conclude this thread for me.
Is analogue better than digital or vice versa???

-Original Message-
From: Brian Prince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 4 September 2006 6:35 a.m.
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) The Laptop Debate - the imitation of sound

kent williams wrote:

 Honestly, what matters besides the actual compositions?  I'm enough of
 a studio rat to care about things are produced, but the actual method
 that someone uses is irrelevant, except as it facilitates the result.
 It's not like you can't make sh*t tracks with analog gear.

Self-appointed golden ears dismiss feeling and creativity, because
anyone can appreciate those qualities in music (though not always at
first
blush, since some tastes are acquired), whereas it takes a genuine
superior class of lonely douche to prioritize the production pipeline in
their evaluation of a record.

see also: missing the point of art

- bp

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RE: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Is it an analogue or a digital laptop?

-Original Message-
From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 2 September 2006 1:30 p.m.
To: list 313
Subject: (313) The Laptop Debate.

Not to stir the pot, but I've been practicing making tracks with a
computer for 12 years.  In that time I've come up with 3 tracks I felt


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RE: (313) Digital Downloads

2006-08-19 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)


Probably been said a million times, but mp3's are more like records than
cd's because you can get straight to the bit of the music you want to
hear...ie dance with your right hand...or left if you are left handed
(which 96% of the submerge guys are...Detroit would be a wealthy city if
it was off the right hand turnoff past New York rather than the left)

Anyway...when is Larry seen not heard going to do some electro...that'd
be real nice...



-Original Message-
From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 August 2006 06:56
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Digital Downloads

ive heard a lot of those 320 kbps from various sources and decided i
wont
ever spend a cent on mp3/ogg etc .
none of the files sounded better than the 192s i made myself.
if it's wav / cd-r sure ,ok.  but those commercial mps3 are still sort
of
a joke.
often hammered with some funny loudness maximizing limiters the traks
lose
at least 50% of its dynamics. (often turning into a punk-rock remix of
a
techno trak)

honestly i'd rather get an illegal file and send 5 $ directly to the
artist.
sad thing is - 95% of stuff i got this year is by ..drexciya ;/

/12



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RE: (313) a question regarding DEMF and the history of Detroit techno

2006-05-18 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Probably a dumb question, but the guys that play later time slots, close
the night etc...do they get paid more money?
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From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 3:14 a.m.
To: disrupt; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) a question regarding DEMF and the history of Detroit
techno

I agree that influences are ubiquitous. The question here is about the
weighting of importance. Using your own analogy, even though all the
early guys have basically admitted to trying to imitate italo trax when
coming up with the detroit techno sound I would find it just as odd to
see the Rome Italo Fest(hypothetical event, don't pm me asking when it
takes place :) headlined by cybotron while the originators of the italo
sound pushed to play at noon. Even though they definitely took the italo
sound and helped it grow into something more. I really would think it
odd. Same thing here. Nobody's arguing for the exclusion of detoit
influenced artists who are relevant to the sound we love, but the
argument is that first priority should be given to the originators, then
the hometown sound pushers, then the out of town sound pushers, and
LASTLY the filler sideshow acts (breakcore, trance acts, etc). even
though I know some feel that it has absolutely no place at the fest, I'd
put money down that it wouldn't be much of an issue if they were all
given the early slots and the respect chain was obvious. Now for all I
know, paxahaus may have all the respect in the world for the real D
(hell, rob hood anyone?) but I'm saying it's not as obvious as it should
be in the lineup. A simple case of them not putting the money where
their mouth is (in the hands of Detroit techno). I mean correct me if
I'm wrong, but does anyone here think that POTD and the rest are really
relevant to Detroit?

k

-Original Message-
From: disrupt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:15 AM
To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) a question regarding DEMF and the history of Detroit
techno

Yes Tom!

Highly interesting discussion, with all its ups and downs, ultimately
about
the state of Detroit today.

Maybe a new line of thought on this: for sure Detroit music influenced
many
people around the globe, many ripped it off, some took it and went
forward
(like the Dutch crew, Berlin, etc.), the whole plus and minus of it
revealed
itself over the last years.  

BUT: didn't Detroit music got influenced by other music as well over the
time? Sucking those influences in, processing and using them in it's
unique
way? For sure it didn't 100% generate from Zero and from itself only.
It's
not a closed-in microcosm, completely sealed off from the world.

So: shouldn't this fact be reflected in the DEMF lineup somehow? Detroit
certainly gave a lot but I think it also 'took', works both channels.
What
can be discussed, of course, are the porportions of this give/take share
and
how it ultimately is weighed in the lineup.

Anyway, keep it going. Such thoughts have to be processed.

Jan


On Thu, 18 May 2006 08:22:54 -0400, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 On 5/17/06, as if .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Tom ..  for starters I like you passion ..  '

 thanks ;)

  You are suggesting that the only people who can call their Techno
Detroit Techno
  are people who are born and raised in Detroit.

 ummm, that is a bit obvious, right? i mean i guess you dont
 necessarily have to have lived every second of your life in detroit to
 qualify, but certainly a long term connection with the city and its
 culture should be a requirement. say techno artist X moves to detroit,
 his music is not now detroit techno, thats for sure. in fact, to me
 someone like 4 Hero has more to do with detroit techno than someone
 like the Beretta music people.

  In a commercial sense you are probably following a clean line of
thought. On a
  personal level I see you trying to protect the energy and truth of
the
early Detroit
  Techno.  I see you also trying to protect the interests of local
Detroit
Artists.

 for me its not only about techno though, its about house and electro
 and ghetto tech and even soul and hiphop. anything that has a
 distinctly detroit flavour that is recognizable! every one of those
 genres that has a sound associated with detroit has been ripped off by
 and also influenced people outside of detroit.

  These are all valid things to do.  However in order to protect these
things you will
  need to essentially crush what is Detroit Techno into a can cover
it
in a series of
  warning labels and putting it on a special shelf for everyone to
purchase.

 i dont necessarily think that is true. the good thing about something
 as generic as detroit music is ever changing, and will grow to
 include different genres and different ideas. but it certainly doesnt
 need to include every single style of music made in detroit. detroit
 is a large city, im sure theres 

RE: (313) Techno on the otherside .. NZ

2006-04-26 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

Depends if you're inside or outside though mate. If you're inside you
can't compete with Auckland weather...

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From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 27 April 2006 2:21 a.m.
To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Techno on the otherside .. NZ

LOL

but perth has by far better weather ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Techno on the otherside .. NZ






 So DEMF and Perth have something in common this year - not many
Detroit
 artists playing

 ;-)

 MEK

 Michael Bramwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/25/2006 09:07:32
PM:

 Nice post Simon. Here in Perth West Australia the last times I went
out
 to
 see a good international DJ play was Mills around 2001, Alton Miller
in
 2002
 and Theo Parrish in 2003. Other good people have come to play; just
in
 the
 form of expensive 'festivals' where 95% of the line up is a complete
 waste
 of money. I have missed a few good Detroit, Chigaco and Compost label
 artists but I could count them on one hand.

 My first post to this list, hello all.

 Michael B.

 - Original Message -
 From: Simon Kong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:58 AM
 Subject: (313) Techno on the otherside .. NZ


 
 This post is for everyone having a cry baby about DEMF
 
 ..
 
  Stacey Pullen came to play in Wellington NZ the other week.
 
  By some sheer accident I ended up making a one way 16 hour
  road trip to see him play, and a flight home at 8am.
 
  A good friend also flew in from Sydney for the occasion so
  it was really cool to be connected by Techno.
 
  Mostly I just wanted to say to the list that in some places in
  the world we rarely get to hear Techno.  New Zealand has had
  three US producers visit in the last two years.
 
  You may recall me writing in about Carl Craig last year.
 
  I go bug for Techno especially Detroit styles. It is the only
music
  that makes me dance like Sven hugs or no hugs.  It's the only
  music that motivates me to dance at all these days.
 
  Stacey was just brilliant, and I don't care for the politics.
 
  He got on the decks at 2am and was still playing when I had to
get
  to the airport at 7am.  It was a sonic inspiration for me ..
and
 was
  twice as cool cause the dance floor was full .. unlike Carl
Craig.
 wah.
 
  While I can understand the frustrations of the DEMF line up ..
I
 think
  you need to look at the greater context of what the scene is
able
 to
  support.
 
  New Zealand has small population, and so a very small Techno
scene.
 
  Our ability to foster our own scene, let alone have events or
 festivals
  that feature Techno artists is very very limited.
 
  On a global scale Techno is still a very underground sound.
Over
 here
  where I am sitting . the DEMF does heaps to put Techno on the
Map.
 
  Locally .. I would probably be upset as well.  However the
 opportunity
  still remains to use the focus on the DEMF to raise the
awareness
 of
  the 313 sound  .. and it's affiliations.
 
  I think the Line up is that evil balance between commercial and
 true.
 
  However on any given day it's a line up I would very much like
to
 see,
 and
  from a global perspective I think its a very interesting
 representation of
  how far the influences of Detroit music have traveled.
 
  I think Detroit heads have a lot of heritage to be proud of,
and
 while
 there
  is obviously a strong local scene that is looking for
 representation.
 I think
  you have to appreciate that due to the musical foundations of
 Detroit
  many people from around the world now share in the positive
 influence.
 
  Somehow in the face of all the commercial dance scenes around
the
 world
  Techno has managed to hold onto it's integrity.  The artists
listed
 are by no
  means heavy hitters in the commercial dance scene.  They are a
 fairly
 gritty
  bunch of left field innovators of electronic sounds.
 
  For all the people that stand in Hart Plaza .. there are as
many
 people all
  around the world who bring their attention to the goings on in
 Detroit.
 
  Promotion is the evil brother of Appreciation, and by all
accounts
 the
 DEMF
  has been a constant battle from day one.
 
  I just want to send love and respect to the Festival and remind
 everyone
  having issues with the event, that some of us are still
struggling
 to
 hear
  any sort of Techno once a year.
 
  DEMF does bring global attention.  We are listening out here on
the
 edge.
 
  .simon
 
 
 
 





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RE: (313) clark boot?

2006-01-20 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

I got the double pack for about 10 euro's about 3 months ago...sounds a bit 
90's, well I mean I dunno if it's dated that well...anyone want to sell a copy 
of that noosa heads track though I'd be keen...

-Original Message-
From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 21 January 2006 3:25 a.m.
To: Tristan Watkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313'
Subject: Re: (313) clark boot?

some guy on discogs just gave me 60eu for mine, and in my broke state i 
accepted...already regret, i really treasure it, but i'll hold it in my arms 
again...of course the music is the thing and i wav'd it before i sent it 
away...but argh...

-Original Message-
From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jan 20, 2006 6:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], '313' 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) clark boot?

Prolly close to �15 most times, and not that often, but I haven't seen any
really stupid prices for it. I could have missed those auctions though, as I
don't really eBay. I think it's a fairly slept-on record. I can probably
count on one hand the number of people I've heard play it out.

Tristan
===
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.phonopsia.co.uk


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: (313) clark boot?


 Ditto everyone else's comments (that's how mine looks however I don't
 think
 there's much wrong with the mix/pressing).
 Only goes for a tenner?  D*mn, I thought that'd be worth money, there's no
 sense to these things, I occasionally find something I have and had no
 thought would be valuable is whereas something like this is freely
 available?




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(313) cheap 909

2006-01-03 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/0343-0892-0426-0683-/auction-44204787
.htm

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RE: (313) Techno Films

2004-08-15 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)





 I guess hip-hop types have Star Wars but 

Was this a joke? I've just woken up...

What about TRON, ZARDOZ and THX1138




RE: Re: (313) Fake Los Hermanos record?

2004-07-29 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
http://www.webspawner.com/users/stinson01/

better than the real thing...

-Original Message-
From: Sean Creen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2004 9:22 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kj at technotourist dot org
Cc: Sean Creen; 313 Mailinglist List
Subject: Re: Re: (313) Fake Los Hermanos record?

  There is also an IDM artist called Donna Summer :)
 
 That;s a more concious, satirical type thing.

As far as I know, he's been forced to stop using the name now anyway.





RE: (313) white girls

2004-06-09 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
No one gets anywhere being bitter, and poking fun at 'fair game(see
below)' for whatever reason is just tired and reactionary.
I love white girls...especially my mum.

-Original Message-
From: Kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2004 4:48 a.m.
To: 313 list
Subject: RE: (313) white girls

It's a meme they're trying to establish. It means whatever you want it
to mean.

I've always gotten the impression that when it came to ethnic and racial
differences, it's bad cricket to make fun of people of color, or 'white'
people who have been treated badly, like the Italians and Irish. But
affluent white people from America and Europe are fair game.  I'm not
saying that I think anyone should be ridiculed based on a stereotype,
just that making fun of the traditional oppressor groups doesn't sting
as much.

I don't think a booth at Movement selling i'm sick and tired of black
girls
would have been very well received by anyone, black or white.

So perhaps I'm sick and tired of white girls is a critique on
stereotypes and prejudice, presented with some humor. If a white girl
wears it, is she expressing self loathing? If a black or hispanic or
asian girl wears it, is it jealosy? If a black man wears it, is he
saying he's down with sisters exclusively? If a white man wears it does
it mean he's made a sexual fetish of skin color?

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
 Anyone troubled by this?
 What do they mean by sick and tired of white girls?






(313) black devil disco club

2004-05-04 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
Is it true about this being found for 20p at a car boot sale? Or was
environ trying to get it licensed and warp muscled their way in? Anyone
know? 




RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)

2004-03-31 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
...and these trend hoppers don't really enjoy the music they listen to, there 
not enjoying it when they go out...mmm..doesn't it feel s good to have 
authentic taste!!!

-Original Message-
From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 7:59 a.m.
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)


-- Original Message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who 
go to
techno parties? good f**kin' grief.

how hard is it to differentiate between people who trend hop 
(hipsters) and people who are long term fans of a music? these 
things happen, especially in electronic music. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)

2004-03-31 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
I've seen people wearing copies of that t-shirt...

-Original Message-
From: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) 
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 8:10 a.m.
To: 'Robert Taylor'
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)


I've seen people wearing copies of that t-shirt...

-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 9:06 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)


Maybe we need a 313 t-shirt sporting the logo 'I'm Enjoying Myself More Than 
You Because I'm For Real'

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:04 PM
To: Ralf Gill (healthAlliance)
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)


wow- i think you've just achieve an entirely new level of constipation.



On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Ralf Gill (healthAlliance) wrote:

 ...and these trend hoppers don't really enjoy the music they listen to, there 
 not enjoying it when they go out...mmm..doesn't it feel s good to have 
 authentic taste!!!

 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2004 7:59 a.m.
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)


 -- Original Message --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who
 go to
 techno parties? good f**kin' grief.

 how hard is it to differentiate between people who trend hop
 (hipsters) and people who are long term fans of a music? these
 things happen, especially in electronic music.

 tom

 
 andythepooh.com





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RE: (313) Discogs.com question

2004-03-29 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
Wondering why would one want to put up a list of all the records in their 
collection if they weren't for sale? Does the person with the best collection 
win something or get receive greater functionality from the website? 

-Original Message-
From: Lee Herrington IV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2004 4:36 a.m.
To: 313
Subject: RE: (313) Discogs.com question




  i've been solicited on a few occasions.  however, when i have attempted to
negotiate a sale at a price that i am happy with, i have received no
response.  i think some folks just give up on ebay and GEMM and make an
effort at acquiring rare titles from collectors online.

cheers,
lrh

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:09 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Discogs.com question






I've started building my collection on discogs and just got an email from
someone wanting to buy one of my records - is this common?
None of my records on there are for sale, I just use the website as a
back-up to my library database I have at home.

So do people use Discogs alot to sell and trade?

MEK




(313) Can anyone please id this track, small mp3, 100k...???

2004-03-15 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
http://homepages.whl.co.nz/~ralf/dp.htm
It came from a mix someone posted here last year...anyone know whose mix it 
came from?
Thnaks in advance



(313) Anyone want to get a burger 2moro after work? was (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio

2004-03-08 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)


-Original Message-
From: David Bate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2004 8:45 a.m.
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio


 correct me if i'm wrong, but most of the noise i'm seeing today is in
 the form of complaints regarding noise.  kind of ironic, right?

Ironic, but that's the way one has to do it, when one is on a self
moderated list.  We can't write to a moderator and have them step in, it's
something
that we have to ourselves.   There's good and bad to a self moderated
list, but it's the way that 313 has been doing it for the last 10 years.


 delete takes a second.  let people say what they want to say.  noise is
 an inherent part of any community, online or real life.

At least for me, maybe I'm slower then some people, but delete's take more
then a second for me. When I'm presented with 50-100 messages and some of
them are good and some of them are bad, you have to go through the bad
ones to find out which are the good ones.  That's why I think Phred
indicated
that he only reads emails from people's who he knows, as most of the time,
people aren't even talking about the subject that is on the subject line,
so you think you're reading about something that you're really not.  I
kind of think of it as lurking SPAM.  Noise is an inherent part of any
community,
I do agree, but we use filters to try to reduce that noise.  The
particular filter on this list is 313, and that's how I have attempted
to reduce
the noise for non 313 stuff. Unfortunately, I don't see very much stuff
about Detroit Techno on this list...  I know many people who have just left
the list and don't want to deal with it. I've been lurking on this list
since just after it started, when I was logging in with my 14.4 baud modem
on my Mac Plus ( I know, I was behind the times, even then!) and the signal
to noise ratio has never been so high as it has in the last year or two.


Also, using the 313 as a chat room, goes against 1 of few rules that we
have on here:

* List members are here for a reason, keep your posts on topic, using 313
as chat room is not permitted.


 and here's my attempt to start a more interesting thread:

 lately i can't get enough of: _ (theo parrish jill scott
 slowly surely)


Remember... please insert DETROIT related artist here ;)




Have a good DETROIT day to you all  ...


Dave