Re: "the one man storm"

[The Deliverator]

I remember listening to this when it happened.  Thank you so much for
posting this.  All the feels.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 1:57 AM, Fred Heutte  wrote:

> Prince and Mojo
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJZCoxZ5COY
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftKtWgXzMS8
>
>

Re: (313) OT: Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson (Coil)

[The Deliverator]

What a horrible loss. He was one of my greatest musickal influences. 

Jim

On Nov 25, 2010, at 11:24 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:

 Apparently, Sleazy died yesterday.
 
 Again in the neither-neither. :)
 
 -- 
 {}0+|

Re: (313) [spam] tBd Dust Science Special Part 1 – DJ Set/Mix

[The Deliverator]

To be honest it's quite a surprise to me that Thelema would ever come  
up on 313. I like it :)


Jim

On Oct 21, 2009, at 11:42 AM, hjoo...@gmail.com wrote:

I like the fact that the Black Dog seem to be influenced by Thelema  
or at least Aleister Crowley in their track names (like 'Stele of  
Revealing' and 'Trojan Horus'). Good work!






--Original Message--
From: Martin Dust
To: list 313
Subject: (313) [spam] tBd Dust Science Special Part 1 – DJ Set/Mix
Sent: Oct 21, 2009 6:18 PM

03. Dust Science Special Part 1 – DJ Set/Mix

To celebrate the relaunch of Dust Science we thought it only fitting
to go back through some of the early releases on the label and give
them the tBd treatment. Enjoy.

01. Anthony Child – youknowiloveyou – (dustv012)Faith is Fear
02. The Black Dog – Sudden Intake – (dustsnd003) Silenced
03. The Black Dog – Trojan Horus Part 3 – (dustsnd001) Trojan  
Horus EP
04. The Black Dog – Bolt 23 Blue Screen Ov Death – (dustsnd003)  
Silenced

05. Slit – Alone and Cutting – (dustv012)Faith is Fear
06. The Black Dog – D.O.G. Style – (dustsnd001) Trojan Horus EP
07. Richard H Kirk – Casa NC Dada – (dustv009) Fear No Evil EP
08. Betaville – Surface Tension – (dustv012) Faith is Fear
09. Claude Young – Electronic Dissident – (dustv002) Electronic
Dissident EP
10. The Black Dog – Because They Said So – (dustsnd002) Remote  
Viewing

EP
11. Anthony Shakir – The Random Hustle – (dustv005) Lost and Found 
 1

12. Fred Giannelli – Delirious – (dustv003) Telepathica EP
13. Dan Curtin – Shining – (dustv008) Shining EP
14. Derailleur – Knights Bishop – (dustv010) Wave Theory Of Light  
EP

15. Vector Lovers – Graviton – (ds93002) Graviton EP
16. Mark Archer – I Said Funky – (ds93001) Song For Einna
17. DNCN – Lakeside – (dustv014) Moss Lane East EP
18. Alex Smoke – Eccie Brekkie Heart – (ds93004) Flume Sump EP
19. Shawn Rudiman – Through the Dark – (dustv015) In My Head EP
20. Carl Taylor – Walk On By – (dustv017) In The North EP
21. The Black Dog – Stele Of Revealing (Carl Taylor Remix) –
(dustsnd004) Remixes
22. Carl Taylor – Who Is In Control – (dustv004) Simplex EP

Download Now: http://www.theblackdogma.com/tbd/download-manager.php?id=27

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(313) O/T My tracks

[the deliverator]

Hi All,

I've previously announced my music (released under the name Zarathustra)
here on the list.  None of it has been available for some time as
ampcast.com are bastards.  Anyway, a lot of my tracks are once again
available at http://music.the-deliverator.net .  I'll be uploading the
rest of them over the long weekend. 

Enjoy,

 

Jim

RE: (313) The return of yet another oldie....

[the deliverator]

testing

-Original Message-
From: Blaauw, Martijn de [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:27 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) The return of yet another oldie

Here's some news...next to Propaganda, Nitzer Ebb and Heaven 17 another
act back on track, i kinda liked them back in the dayzzz...dunno if a
reformis needed
though:-)...did/do some of u on this list like them???
'As previously reported dec_05.html , 2006 could well be the OMD
Renaissance year with the reformation of the band now officially
announced.
To recap, Andy McCluskey, Paul Humphreys, Mal Holmes and Martin Cooper
will be returning as OMD with concerts and a
new album on the way. Joining them for live shows will be Stuart
Kershaw.
Here's what's on the schedule:

OMD perform Architecture  Morality live
A brand new OMD album
Extensive European tour
Remastered Dazzle Ships album
OMD DVD
Unreleased material album'

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martijn de Blaauw

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(313) Fw: [coil] Teenage Lightning Surgeon Mix on the radio

[The Deliverator]

Did anyone record this set?  I'd love to hear Surgeon vs Coil :)

jim

- Original Message - 
From: Hasan Gaylani [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: [coil] Teenage Lightning Surgeon Mix on the radio



Hey

Last night's Breezeblock on BBC Radio 1 featured a Surgeon DJ set, 
here's the tracklisting:


***HEADLINE DJ SET- SURGEON***
 Aphex Twin - 'Phloam' (Warp)
 Whitehouse - 'Cut Hands Has The Solution' (Susan Lawly)
 Decoder - 'Relapse' (White)
 DHS - 'The House Of God' (White)
 British Murder Boys - 'Anti Inferno' (Counterbalance)
 Coil - 'Teenage Lightning (Surgeon remix)' (White)
 The Bug - 'Red (version)' (Superstition)
 British Murder Boys - 'Don't Give Way To Fear' (Counterbalance)
 Brothemstates - 'Jak Got Stuck in Canada..' (Arcola)
 Monolake - 'Invisible' (Monolake)
 dBit - 'Kero remix'(White)
 British Murder Boys - 'Father Loves Us' (Counterbalance)
 Throbbing Gristle - 'Don't Do As You're Told, Do As You Think Vex'd' 
(Ghost British) Murder Boys - 'Learn Your Lesson Surgeon' 
(Counterbalance)

 A Guy Called Gerald - 'Blow Your House Down (BMB mix)' (!k7)
 Coil - 'Circles Of Mania' (White)



You can listen to the show online until next Monday here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/breezeblock/tracklistings.shtml

Now then, would anyone be able to burn this set onto a CDR  send it to 
me please??


Cheers
Hasan


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(313) FW: [coil] Surgeon @ Breezeblock

[the deliverator]

Here's the download!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Maarten Schermer
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [coil] Surgeon @ Breezeblock

damn bbc streams won't rip!
anyway, the same set is available at
http://www.dj-surgeon.com/audio.html
for download. probably better quality than the bbc stream, but the
download
hasn't finished yest, so i'm not sure.

maarten

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Re: (313) first tracks of the day

[The Deliverator]

Plastikman - plastique

- Original Message - 
From: fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:18 AM
Subject: (313) first tracks of the day


just got in to work, my mood is fouler than a pitviper so i thought this 
was appropriate:


lory d - future dancefloor - adenachrome records
(http://www.discogs.com/release/102972)

how about you guys? what have you started your day with?

oh, and if anyone questions the 313 relevance of this post, well we can 
turn that into a whole new thread ;)


fab.

CITYMORB MUSIC
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Re: (313) Telepathica

[The Deliverator]

I, for one, would love a Telepathica retrospective CD of everything 
since.oh Backbreaker or so.  That would rock.


please, please, please?

jim

- Original Message - 
From: Stoddard, Kamal [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'Martin Dust' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Telepathica


I know I'm gonna catch flack from somebody, but this is the most exciting 
of the dust-eez for me (I know black dog and claude are super ace). The 
melodies are sublime and well felt out, which I think is the most 
overlooked element in modern techno. The strings in distant gratification 
remind me of Bone (and if you didn't know that's a great thing in my book) 
and those little plinky delayed things gave me eye spasms. I almost didn't 
like delirious but then the bottom dropped and made it gel with the disco 
feel. And prescience is just right up my alley, deep bassline 
melodies and sweeping gorgeous bizness. I want one now. Has it been that 
long since we heard techno proper from the kook? Or is it me (late again)?


Kamal K. Stoddard
Turner Broadcasting Systems


** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 
year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to 
piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. **




-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:10 PM
To: 313 mailing list
Subject: (313) Telepathica

Easy 313, may I present 313's very own Fred Giannelli

http://www.dustscience.com/Releases/FredGiannelli-Telepathica.php


Martin

Re: (313) if you drove in to work today.

[The Deliverator]

Mogwai:  Come on Die Young 


Not 313, but very good nonetheless.

jim

- Original Message - 
From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: (313) if you drove in to work today.


On a bike in the rain with my trusty old iPod, first song Dirty Nursery 
Rhymes from the 2Live Crew :)



KJ




On 31-jan-05, at 15:54, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote:

does riding the train in and discmaning it count? (no ipod yet... 
anyone

wanna donate their old decrpid outdated one to lowly ol me?  ;)  )


i was rockin Autolux - Future Perfect (thanks yussel!)


derek.



On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Pascal Louwes wrote:


First tunes this morning: (does that count?) a love supreme by mr.
Coltrane...

That spanners album is one of the first records I ever bought on 
wax... I
remember a new years eve with one of my best mates where we decided 
to,
enjoying a night in, have a listen to this album and then kinda give 
it a

'review'...

Well it took us a second or so to come up with a review after 
listening the

entire album out: its brilliant.

I think that was ten years ago... I still think its a gem.

Paz

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: lee herrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: maandag 31 januari 2005 13:56
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) if you drove in to work today.


What did you have coming out of the speakers in your car?  Though I 
don't
remember loading it in the player, I had the spanners CD from the 
black

dog.  It was cold and foggy this morning so the spanner tunes set an
appropriate mood.

Cheers,


lee r. herrington
u store it
technical support specialist

440-260-2245

Re: (313) 10 years?

[The Deliverator]

6 years for me and counting..I'm just a youngin' :-) Grew up in Detroit
at the perfect time though.  Didn't realize it at the time.

jim


- Original Message - 
From: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: (313) 10 years?


 I subscribed in late '94 too -frightening. Been here on and off with
various e-mail addresses ever since

 
  From: Marsel // Nomorewords.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2004/04/22 Thu PM 02:34:13 CDT
  To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) 10 years?
 
 
  i feel older everyday..
 
  just thought of subscribing to 313 almost ten years ago...
  ?
 
  somewhere sept 1994
  when the first pictures and colours appeared on www
 
  aaahh well .
 
  when did this list 'officially' start?
 
  how many are left from way back then?
 
  jason martin, matt macqueen, hans veneman, teep, .. ?
 
 
 

Re: (313) oh yes! Kenny Larkin album coming

[The Deliverator]

Jim does the happy dance along with everyone else :-)


- Original Message - 
From: Arne Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: (313) oh yes! Kenny Larkin album coming


Okay, folks it's time to for a celebration party then. we all should
stand up from our desk right now and start to dance wherever your pc stands
right now doesn't matter if it's at home, at work or in an internet
cafe! Go wild!

YES! I'm happy that we can witness the return of one of the best techno
producers ever again!

:-)


Arne


 To: 313
 Subject: (313) oh yes! Kenny Larkin album coming


 from www.peacefrog.com

 Kenny Larkin - The Narcissist

 The Narcissist: Debut album on Peacefrog from Detroit legend Kenny Larkin,
 set for release 1 March 2004.

 11 tracks of some of the finest electronic soul music around, the making
of
 a definite future classic.

 A worldwide tour is being scheduled for the time of the album release.
 Details will be posted soon.

 Also look out for a private pressing and 12 single in the coming months.



-- 
°
www.arneweinberg.de
°

Re: (313) hawtin in windsor/chi-town

[The Deliverator]

Where's the info on this posted?

Thanks!

jim

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:02 PM
Subject: (313) hawtin in windsor/chi-town


 hello all,
 i have a few Q's on this show, maybe someone has some A's?

 what is this club wired like? i had a link for a website but cannot
 find it now.
 are there going to be pre-sales? the prospect if there are none of
 driving from lansing, standing in line, the boarder patrol and maybe
 not getting in is making me question an attempt at the trek. is there
 anything going down that is a must see at this show? i have not missed
 a richie show a quite a few years and have not been fully satisfied
 with that past two city club show's. (the last one being out of there
 control with the police and all) i would be bummed if i missed a live set.

 now the show in chicago, what club is it at? any other info?

 just trying to figure out what to do for halloween and it is looking
 like the i.t. freak out. but i'm a richie freak and would love to see
 a live se if that is the deal.

 thanks in adv.
 scotto
 lansing,mi
 plaztikjezuz.com

Re: (313) Plastikman History

[The Deliverator]

Except it had an 808, 909, 101, 303, and a washing machine, if I remember
correctly.  The washing machine bit was on the m-nus calendar, and would
change every time you refreshed the page.washing machine, bananna, etc.

The last song of the night, the one on the cd3, was live at least.  And that
303 was squawking away at a couple of points through the night.

What a great time, I just wish Motor would've let everyone stay a little
longer :-)

Plastikman live? Perhaps not, but still a good night.

jim



- Original Message -
From: Erin Berg (WPL) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:24 PM
Subject: FW: (313) Plastikman History


 Ya, I thought the NYE '99 was basically a decks efx show because the album
 was released in November of 1999...

 -Original Message-
 From: Garrett McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: October 15, 2003 3:17 PM
 To: tuneintuition; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) Plastikman History


 --- tuneintuition [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok, I was thinking 95' was the last show...  But I
  guess it
  was NYE 99' @ Motor...  Was it really a live
  performance?

 no.  according to mr. hawtin the last plastikman show
 was japan '95.

Re: (313) Plastikman History

[The Deliverator]

I seem to remember Motor staff kicking everybody out at 4 a.m.  Believe me,
I could have gone longer that night!  It was the millenium after all :-)

jim

- Original Message -
From: logic7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: (313) Plastikman History


 A little longer??? Me and the crew left a little after 4am. How much
longer
 was it goin on?

 -Original Message-
 From: The Deliverator [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:34 PM
 To: Erin Berg (WPL); 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman History


 Except it had an 808, 909, 101, 303, and a washing machine, if I remember
 correctly.  The washing machine bit was on the m-nus calendar, and would
 change every time you refreshed the page.washing machine, bananna,
etc.

 The last song of the night, the one on the cd3, was live at least.  And
that
 303 was squawking away at a couple of points through the night.

 What a great time, I just wish Motor would've let everyone stay a little
 longer :-)

 Plastikman live? Perhaps not, but still a good night.

 jim
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Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer

[The Deliverator]

If it isn't out till October how is everyone listening to this thing?

jim

- Original Message - 
From: Kookie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer


 After hearing lots and lots of hype about this albulm for the past couple
of
 months, I had very high expectations.  I don't think it lives up to what
 I've heard but it still is amazing albulm.  The first track really sucks
me
 in especially with the synthy opening.  I think Ping Pong and Headcase are
 very good also.  When listening to the albulm I think its important to
keep
 in mind that it is a concept albulm, bringing you closer into the mind
of
 Mr Hawtin.  I think the vocals are a very important part of the albulm
which
 relates directly to the concept behind it all.  I'm constantly amazed on
how
 dark the albulm feels.  I will agree with Dennis and say that it is a must
 buy when it comes out in October.

 -K
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dennis Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:17 PM
 Subject: (313) Plastikman - Closer


  Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I haven't yet
 seen
  anything about it.
 
 
  After giving Closer a few listens, I have to say that I'm very
impressed
  at not only the musical quality but the way in which Plastikman was
able
  to keep that traditional Plastikman sound, yet meld it into a new album
 that
  isn't walking on exactly the same ground that he's walked before.  The
 whole
  album plays out like an album should, a full context of itself, with
each
  song becoming a part of a greater whole, which is very enjoyable as a
  listener.  All of the compositions include somewhat basic production
  methods, but used in a sort of finesse that really uses each part to its
  potential, instead of relying on tons of layers to tune out things that
  don't quite work.
  The very industrial-inspired vocal work is pretty non-descript and not
  over-the-top or cheesy, as one would suspect simply given the
description.
  The heavy use of delay and reverb gives every production a lot of space
 and
  feel, ala Consumed, but the songs all have more of driving presence
akin
  to the direction of earlier albums (sheet one, musik).
  This album is a marvel in keeping pace with expectation without
  dissapointing the faithful followers of a specific sound, while adding
 some
  new elements.  Definitely Plastikman, but at the same time, definitely
 new.
  Buy on site.
  -dmd
 
 

Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer

[The Deliverator]

Jeez,

I guess this is why Derrick May doesn't release much music anymore.  It's
always impossible to live up to your past accomplishments isn't it?

jim


- Original Message -
From: Max Duley / ARCart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Plastikman - Closer


 Copied and pasted from another forum, here's my take on it

Re: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores

[The Deliverator]

Mmm.  New plaskikman goodness.  I was tiring of the Mix CD format that
he's been doing for a while now.  It'll be refreshing to hear some new
studio sounds.

And, as luck would have it- My sorry ass will be in NYC on Friday.  WooHoo!

jim



- Original Message -
From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[-[-]-[]-[|]-]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Langsman, Marc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores



 .. there's another surprise in store (no punn intended) w/ the new
 plastikman album. dope dope dope.

 -p

 -Original Message-
 From: [-[-]-[]-[|]-] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:30 AM
 To: Langsman, Marc; Grammenos, Peter; 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]';
 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores


 got this today:

 This free performance at the SoHo Apple Store will feature Richie in his
 first ever iPod DJ set. Not only will he spin tracks from his diverse MP3
 collection but he'll also showcase a few yet-to-be-released tracks from
his
 forthcoming Plastikman album.



 NEW PLASTIKMAN??!??
  :)

 -Joe

 - Original Message -
 From: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Grammenos, Peter' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:18 AM
 Subject: RE: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores


 
  Wow Ive never busted that style before sounds fun :)
  Although Im currently in the process of getting myhands on a stylaphone
to
  fiddle with mid set :)
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 4:12 PM
   To: 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]'; 'Langsman, Marc'; 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores
  
  
  
   Exactly! Except the guy i go and hear uses some sort of
   distorted siren thing-ie.
  
   -Pete
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:07 AM
   To: Grammenos, Peter; 'Langsman, Marc'; 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores
  
  
   DJ Jamicain Style...whadya mean ?
  
   Play a track, paly sound effect (always reminds me of Fruit
   Machines) Next track ?
  
   Rav
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 30 April 2003 15:53
   To: 'Langsman, Marc'; 'Sam Valenti IV'; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores
  
  
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 4:41 AM
   To: 'Sam Valenti IV'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: (313) This Friday - iPod event at all Apple stores
  
  
  
Every Apple store will have a DJ playing on iPods from 6-10 PM.
General info is up at www.apple.com/retail/may2
  
   How does that work !?? Do Ipods have pitch controls nowadays ?
   What would be fantastic actually would be the combination of
   ipod + finalscratch (oh yeah and if only they give ipod
   recording functionality..)
  
   PG Totally true. I think ipod's are one of the best things
   to happen to
   music, i have over 500 albums encoded on one device that's
   smaller + lighter than my portable cd player. Rich has been
   using one forever.. I don't know how you would mix using one
   of them though, with two i suppose you could dj jamaican
   style. Would be cool to have a final scratch type thing-ie
   for IPOD's though!
  
 

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Re: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced

[The Deliverator]

Daam.  G-Man and Coil too.  I would so love to be able to go
to this thing!

jim


- Original Message -
From: Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:26 AM
Subject: RE: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced


 Wow ! El-P, Carl Craig, Baby Ford, Kool Keith, aphex twin, LFO, venetian
 snares (mad), and surgeon..

 I wonder if elp toures under Cannibal ox...

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 From: Daryl Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 20 March 2003 21:18
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) ATP Festival Schedule Announced


 flying to the UK from Chicago for this...

 http://www.atpfestival.com/events/news.php?event=1view=40

 SCHEDULE FOR THE AE EVENT

 ATP UK 2003 SCHEDULE

 FRIDAY 4TH APRIL STAGE 1
 SUNN 0))) - 2.45pm - 3.30pm
 ZOVIET FRANCE - 4.00pm - 4.45pm
 SONIC SUM - 5.15pm - 6.00pm
 SLUTA LETA -6.30pm - 7.15pm
 THIRSTIN HOWL iii - 7.30pm - 8.30pm
 THE FALL - 9.00pm - 10.00pm
 PUBLIC ENEMY -10.30pm - 12.00am
 A. GUY. C. GERALD - 12am -1.30am
 CARL CRAIG - 1.30am - 3.30am
 BABY FORD - 3.30am - 5.00am

 FRIDAY 4TH APRIL STAGE 2
 SKAMS DJS - 4.00pm - 7.00pm
 zK (LIVE) - 7.00pm - 8.00pm
 MEAM (LIVE) - 8.30pm - 9.30pm
 WEVIE STONDER (LIVE) - 10pm - 11pm
 FREEFORM (LIVE) -11.30pm -12.30am
 DJ WOODY - 12.30am - 2.00am
 TEAM DOYOBI (LIVE) - 2am - 3am
 GESCOM (LIVE) - 3am -END

 FRIDAY 4TH APRIL TV CHANNEL
 THE HAFLER TRIO (live)- TIME TBC

 FRIDAY 4TH APRIL - THE QUEEN VICTORIA PUB
 DJ LORD ASWOD ( PUBLIC ENEMY)
 DJ NED BECKETT

 SATURDAY 5TH APRIL STAGE 1
 PITA - 2.00pm -2.45pm
 FARMERSMANUAL - 3.00pm - 3.45pm
 DISJECTA - 4.00pm - 4.45pm
 EL-P + MURS - 5.15pm - 6.15pm
 KOOL KEITH - 6.45pm - 7.45pm
 YASANAO TONE - 8.15pm - 9.00pm
 HECKER - 9.30pm - 10.15pm
 CURTIS ROADS - 10.45pm - 11.30pm
 RUSSELL HASWELL - 12am - 1.15am
 EARTH - 1.30am - 2.30am
 APHEX TWIN - 2.30am - 4.30am

 SATURDAY 6TH APRIL STAGE 2
 NMB ALL STARS (LIVE/DJ) -4pm - 7pm
 MADE (LIVE) - 7pm - 8pm
 BOLA (LIVE) - 9pm - 10pm
 PUSH B. OBJECTS (LIVE)10pm -11.30pm
 Mr 76ix (LIVE) - 11.30pm -12.30am
 TATAMAX (LIVE) - 1am - 2.00am
 ALDER  ELIUS (LIVE)- 2.30am - 3.30am
 SKAM DJs - 3.30am - END

 SATURDAY 5TH APRIL QUEEN VICTORIA PUB
 DJS TBC

 SUNDAY 6TH APRIL STAGE 1
 O.S.T -2.00pm-2.45pm
 REQ - 3.00pm -3.45pm
 SND - 4.00pm -4.45pm
 JIM O'ROURKE - 5.00pm -5.45pm
 COIL - 6.15pm -7.15pm
 BERNARD PARMEGIANI 7.45pm-8.45pm
 THE MAGIC BAND - 9.15pm - 10.15pm
 RHYTHM N SOUND -10.15pm-12.15am
 MIRA CALIX AND ANDREA PARKER
 -12.15am - 3.15am

 SUNDAY 6th APRIL STAGE 2
 STASIS -2.00pm - 3.30pm
 STRICTLY KEV - 3.30pm-5.00pm
 MASSONIX -5.00pm -6.30pm
 LFO DJ set -6.30pm - 8.00pm
 ANTHONY SHAKE SHAKIR 8pm-9.30pm
 G-MAN - 9.30pm -11.00pm
 MARK BROOM - 11.00pm -12.30am
 SURGEON - 12.30am - 2.00am
 DREXCIYAN DJ STINGRAY 2am-3.30am
 VENETIAN SNARES -3.30am-5.00am

 SUNDAY 6TH APRIL QUEEN VICTORIA PUB
 DJS TBC

Re: (313) OT Laurie Anderson

[The Deliverator]

I saw this in Cleveland 2 months ago.  Most excellent.  Go see it.  Funny,
and at times very moving.

She's wonderful!

jim

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From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:08 AM
Subject: (313) OT Laurie Anderson



 Sounds interesting. One of the (forgotten) female innovators of electronic
 music.

  LAURIE ANDERSON BRINGS 'HAPPINESS' TO AUSTRALIA
 
  Internationally renowned New York performance artist LAURIE ANDERSON
will
  be in Australia this month to perform her acclaimed new solo show
  'Happiness' with dates in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth.
 
  Anderson - multi-media priestess, classically trained violinist, ex
  cheerleader, poet, composer, ventriloquist, sculptor and film-maker - is
  one of the most diverse, fascinating and renowned performance artists in
  the world. She is certainly the only one to achieve and maintain
household
  name status.
 
  This new work is one of her most personal and sees Anderson performing
as
  DJ in the performance.
 
  Happiness is in part a self-portrait. In my past work, I have often
  mentioned things that I have seen or heard. This is the first time I
have
  used so many experiences from my own life, which in this case has become
a
  kind of touchstone for thinking about deception and fiction, the stories
we
  tell ourselves so that we can go on.
 
  In Happiness the music is a pulse and a metronome. The sounds are a
  combination of keyboards, violin, and digital processing as well as
several
  MIDI triggers. I get a lot of pleasure out of DJing these sounds which
  allows me to improvise. Unlike the technically more complex multi-media
  shows I often do, Happiness is meant to be flexible and in the moment.
  Laurie Anderson
 
  THE PERTH FESTIVAL WATERSHED THURSDAY 13 FEBRUARY
  Bookings thru BOCS: 08 9484 1133 or via www.perthfestival.com.au
 
  MELBOURNE CONCERT HALL SATURDAY 15 FEBRUARY
  Bookings thru Ticketmaster 7: 1300 136 166 or via www.ticketmaster7.com
 
  SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE CONCERT HALL SUNDAY 16 FEBRUARY
  Bookings thru The Opera House: 02 9250 

Re: (313) upcoming london events

[The Deliverator]

I was just commenting to a coworker of mine in the U.K. that he's lucky
because all the best artists seem to play Manchester and Leeds.

How ironic :-)

I forwarded this to him of course

jim


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From: Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: (313) upcoming london events


 If you want to make a trip to Leeds,
 Robert Hood (semi-live!)  Jay Denham are
 @The Orbit on 15 Feb.
 I might make the journey for this actually. : )

 Websites to check are (in no particular order):
 http://www.sonomu.net (subscribe to David Cotner's Actions
 and Susanna Glaser's Filter for events)
 http://www.sorted.org/london/ (Dale's London Techno Events)
 http://www.11-hour.com/events/index.asp (Events page on
 Matt Chester's 11th hour Technology website)
 http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/ (go to Community - Club Nights)

 Websites of a few clubs/clubnights in London:
 http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk
 http://www.the-end.co.uk
 http://www.93feeteast.co.uk
 http://www.retroverts.com
 http://www.kai-zen.co.uk
 and errrm... http://www.fabric-london.co.uk (a club I tend
 to avoid. If I wanna get groped on the dancefloor, I'll go
 to the DogStar on a Saturday night - they do put on some
 good stuff at the Doggie during the week though, so check
 http://www.luminouslemon.net/mysharedaccounts/DogStar/enter.html )
 New bar in Brixton that's worth checking out for events also:
 http://www.plan-brixton.co.uk/

 System @Propaganda (Thursdays; residents: Mark Broom, Terry
 Mitchell, Marco Carola) - no site, email
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for info

 Gizza shout if you want to hook up with some UK/London 313ers
 while you're here. : )
 Have fun,

 Anya

  From: ::) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thu 23/Jan/2003 22:54 GMT
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: (313) upcoming london events
 
  whats going on in london?
 
  anything worthwhile you know of the the next 4 months or so, please
email me
  or the list.
 
  thank you in advance,
 
  -Joe

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Re: (313) Busted. -- control 4

[The Deliverator]

busted for what?

jim
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From: MikeD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:08 AM
Subject: (313) Busted. -- control 4


 sven vath was amazing, but the detroit PD wasn't having it.   
 
 
 

Re: (313) O/T Liverpool UK

[The Deliverator]

Greetings All,

Thanks for all of the suggestions.  I should have enough info to cause at
least a minimum of trouble ;-)

Alas, I arrive at 9am Saturday morning GMT, so I will miss Baby Ford :-(  A
shame, as I would really like to see the show.

Does t-funkshun do anything on Saturday?

thanks again,

jim


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From: Nick Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: (313) O/T Liverpool UK


 Jim,

 Can I suggest

 T-Funkshun
 The Masque, 90 Seel Street, Liverpool, L1 4BH
 Info : 07967 013889
 10 PM to 3AM Friday 8 November
 Monthly
 £7 / £8 on the door
 No dress restrictions
 Serious House And Techno With A Smile On Its Face

 DJS:

 Baby Ford (Force Tracks, Trelik, Ifach)
 Andy Nicolson (Fissure)
 Mark Forshaw and Scott 'nocturne' McGill

 DETAILS:

 Peter 'Baby' Ford has been making innovative sounds since way back when
Acid
 House bomb 'Ooochie Koochie' was released at the tail end of the 80's, and
 has since been involved with ground breaking record labels such as his own
 Ifach (Baby Ford and Eon's 'Dead Eye (1997) set a new standard for deep
 techno), Trelik (Soul Capsule Productions), and Perlon (Baby Ford and
Zip's
 1999 track 'Vacuum Cleaner' with its cut up vocal schizo dub funk sounds
led
 the way for producers such as Akufen and Pantytec). More recently we have
 witnessed his all-engulfing 'Sacred Machine' LPon Klang and the
 minimal-as-you-like 'All That Nothing' (Force Tracks) which has the kind
of
 sound you can step inside. His tracks also featured heavily on Richie
 Hawtin's inspirational DE9 mix cd. Add to this to the many guises that
 people don't often realise are him such as Lighter Thief and the list is
 endless...

 His Dj'ing sound has taken him from the UK to Detroit's respected Motor
 night and being a regular fixture in Germany with the Background Records
 stable alongside Akufen, Mike Grant and Juan Atkins and now back again.

 It is with great pleasure that T-Funkshun welcomes Baby Ford to our Friday
8
 November gig, fulfilling our promise to put on the people who deserve to
be
 heard. On the night he will be accompanied by original Voodoo resident
Andy
 Nicolson, who is stepping out of the studio for the evening and by
 T-Funkshun's own residents, Mark Forshaw and Scott McGill.

 Everything Else Is Like Dancing To No Music

 t-funk out.

 check out www.tfunkshun.com  for more info.
 Also: Look out for Mark Forshaw's first release 'Revolution as featured
and
 remixed on Jamie Ball's Turning Point Records (TP05)

 Cheers
 Nick

 - Original Message -
 From: The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:40 PM
 Subject: (313) O/T Liverpool UK


  Greetings all,
 
  I will be in Liverpool, UK for the weekend.  I wondering what I should
  see/do that's 313 related.  Any good clubs, record stores, etc?  Any
help
  appreciated!
 
  thanks
 
  jim
 

(313) O/T Liverpool UK

[The Deliverator]

Greetings all,

I will be in Liverpool, UK for the weekend.  I wondering what I should
see/do that's 313 related.  Any good clubs, record stores, etc?  Any help
appreciated!

thanks

jim

Re: [313] TERRENCE PARKER

[The Deliverator]

How *do* people keep losing God anyway?

I found God!  I left him under the bed! :-)

just a joke folks, no offense intended

jim
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Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: [313] TERRENCE PARKER


 
  Oh no! He's found God. That's never a good thing with
  anyone, let alone an
  artist. The Devil always has the best tunes!
 
 
 Oh no!  Is not a complete sentence Mr. English grammar
 specialist.  What would the Queen think???
 
 ;)))   ~~~three chin smiley guy
 
 T!
 
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 www.mp313.com  ~~and here
 
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[313] For the gear heads: electrix no more.

[The Deliverator]

Yikes.  This is a shame.  They really made some killer products!

jim

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From: gilt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: electrix no more.


 did you hear about this?!
 
 today was the first i read about it:
 
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 July 2, 2002 : IVL Technologies discontinues the Electrix line of
 products
 
 IVL Technologies Ltd. announces today the discontinuation of the
 Electrix line of products. In a matter of three years Electrix has
 managed to produce six award-winning products, whose innovative designs
 continue to influence the music equipment industry.
 
 Lisa Tyner, Division Manager, said, We have made hundreds of new
 friends, including many talented musicians who were key influences on
 our own work. Our vision lives on in their music.
 
 IVL Technologies will maintain a presence in the Music Industry through
 products marketed by TC-Helicon, the joint venture formed between IVL
 and TC Electronics.
 
 Warranties and repairs for all of the Electrix products will continue
 through IVL Technologies Ltd. IVL's address and phone numbers continue
 unchanged. For more information contact Lisa Tyner
 
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Re: [313] Fw: Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia return

[The Deliverator]

I met one of the guys from PWOG while waiting in line for a Richie Hawtin
show in Amsterdam back in 1999.  I don't remember the guys name, but he sure
seemed quite suprised that I even knew who PWOG was when I told him how much
I enjoyed their music.  Really hunble, and really friendly.

Sorry, I just had a PWOG moment :-)

jim



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From: Tim Maughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Fw: Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia return


 on 11/7/02 2:26 pm, John Bush at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  yeah - saw them live a few times and totally mesmeric.
 
  Wow, when/where? Were they still performing behind curtains?

 i saw them a couple of times in Manchester and once at a Megadog party at
 Brixton academy. No curtain, but they did perform their whole set sat on
the
 floor right at the back of the stage with their gear so basically no one
 could see them. I remember being right up the front at the Brixton gig
9for
 those that know it, its a big venue) - it was like 5.30 in the morning and
i
 turned to my right to find Richard Aphex James next to me dancing his
@ss
 off;)



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Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?

[The Deliverator]

Well,

After having missed only this Hawtin Party over the past 4 years I have to
say that the last Control left me feeling a little empty.  I love a loud
sound system just as much as anyone, but even wearing earplugs the entire
night my ears *still* rang for seven days afterwards.  1500 people jammed
into a club designed for 500 is really no fun either- no room left to boogie
without punching some poor guy behind you in the head :-)  Also, I'm really,
really, *really*, sick of City Club.  Expecting people to stand for 12 hours
is unrealistic, and sitting on the City Club floor leaves one literally
filthy. The other thing that bothers me a bit, is that at Integral, U, NYE
1999, and the +8 party at Saint Andrews, a lot of attention was put into the
physical environment- transforming it into something that it wasn't before.
The past series of parties at the City Club, the club has been left
essentially untouched.  I really don't like seeing the same old damn club
exactly the way it was when I was a goth kid at 18 years old.  It leaves
more than a little to be desired  Despite a couple of glorious moments at
Control I and Jak, I still feel that something very fundamental was missing-
what exactly that was I can't put my finger on.  I've been really hoping to
hear something deeper and funkier, more along the lines of de9:ce, but that
still hasn't happened.  I respect Hawtin as a producer and a DJ- it was
really his sets on 96.3 when I was a teenager that introduced me to Techno.
I've been a Hawtin freak for years, but nonetheless I have to say that I am
ready for something truly innovative from him, and I know that he has the
ability to do something completely off the wall compared to what he's been
doing.  What he doing is played out.  It's time to move on.

just my 666 cents

jim


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?


 I find it bothersome that the people who are discarding Hawtin because of
 his set weren't even at the party.

 The fact is, he played very little 140bpm boom-boom-boom

 He seems to be taking cues from the Perlon guys and getting into weirder
 rhythms that are still funky and techno and housy all at the same time.


 Yes, there was a few hours of techno KREKC!!!

 But over the ten hours I was at the party, I found myself getting down as
 often as I was bangin' my head.

 Please don't speak about partys you did not attend.

 Its really bad form.



 On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Mxyzptlk wrote:

 
  
  
  I have a lot of respect for Richie, but I don't think his  DJ-ing  long
  sets of hard techno would really do it for me any more.  There's too
much
  out there that's more interesting.
 
  Not to knock Mr. Hawtin at all, but I have to second Kent's sentiments.
I
  am no veteran of his DJ sets, but I was pretty unamazed at his DEMF set
a
  while back. It seemed like a bunch of people screaming every time the
bass
  kicked in or the incessantly repeated snare rush incessantly repeated.
 
   jeff
 
 
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Re: [313] Does anyone compare to Hawtin?

[The Deliverator]

Greets,

 Still, what's to say that techno has to have soul or funk - why can't
we
 have some industrial sounding stuff?

Oh, there's nothing wrong with industrial at all, that's really what led me
to techno.  I think a lot of Fred Giannelli's work has an industrial feel to
it (in a very good way.)  It's the swedish sound that I'm growing tired of.

 I still expect something a little more than that from Hawtin though.  I
love hard techno, but it has had it's time and place.  I listened to nothing
else for several years, and I'm ready for something different. I realize
that this is my problem, and not Rich's.  I still think that it is
undeniable that Rich's Dj sets for the past for years have not really
changed in sound, despite the addition and use of several really cool toys.
The potential is there for so much more.  Rich, being one that speaks of
shifting gears when he gets in a rut, I think could use a little
constructive criticism for getting stuck in one :-)

jim


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Re: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons ==

[The Deliverator]

Hee hee!

That is where 'deliverator' came from after all :-)

jim

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To: 'Giles Dickerson' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail)
313@hyperreal.org; Eric Scuccimarra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons ==



 Yes, and every other book he's written ;) Snow Crash is the best sci-fi
book
 ever written in my opinion. I'm biased though, because it's about hackers.

 How is this 313 related, I have no idea ;)

 -Original Message-
 From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:35 PM
 To: Grammenos, Peter; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail); Eric Scuccimarra
 Subject: RE: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons
 ==


 Has anyone read the Neil Stephenson book In The Beginning Was The Command
 Line?

 - Giles

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  From: Eric Scuccimarra
  Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 4:24 PM
  To: Grammenos, Peter; Giles Dickerson; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail)
  Subject: RE: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these
 reasons ==
 
  When they were shipping it out on their laptops they were sending the
  laptops with a dual boot of Windows and BeOS, I think. Be has been out
of
  business for a while, I thought, but apparently you can still get the
OS.
 
  I was not aware that it ran on Linux, though.
 
  At 04:19 PM 6/5/2002 -0400, Grammenos, Peter wrote:
 
  I took a look at the website earlier, it can be installed on LINUX. PC
 only
  though...
  
  -p
  
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  From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:12 PM
  To: 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail); Eric Scuccimarra
  Subject: RE: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these reasons
  ==
  
  
  So what type of system do you need for final scratch?
  
  - Giles
  
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From: Eric Scuccimarra
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2002 4:05 PM
To:   Giles Dickerson; 313@Hyperreal.Org (E-mail)
Subject:  Re: [313] final scratch == Very Appealing for these
  reasons ==
   
I think that the reason it's only written for BeOS, not Mac or
 Windows, is
  
because of the audio latency. The last I heard they had it down to
 like 5
ms or something. If anyone has ever seen BeOS in action it's pretty
impressive. There's no way a Mac or a Windows machine could handle
 audio
latency that low.
   
And 5 ms still isn't all that great for DJ uses, at least in my
 opinion.
   
At 03:58 PM 6/5/2002 -0400, Giles Dickerson wrote:
1. I had spine surgery 1 year ago for an injury I incurred most
 probably
from carrying my records to my radio show and DJ gigs. It caused me
 three
  
years of unbearable pain (anyone who knew me then can attest to
this
 by
the shear number of pills I was taking) and my limp. I ended up in
 the
emergency room in New York and then on Morphine for a week and into
neurosurgery. I would like to avid another back injury and
therefore
 not
carrying my records to gigs is very appealing.

2. My record bag can only hold 40 - 60 records, and is limiting as
 I'm
sure you all know. You know that moment where you still have apile
of
records you HAVE to bring with you to this gig but there's just no
 room!
With a big selection of my records on a laptop I can have a few
 hundred
tracks with me.

3. With my music in a laptop or hard drive in my carry-on bag I
never
  have
to worry about flying / losing / breaking my records in airports /
  baggage
claims. Ever know anyone that's had a crate of their favorite
records
ripped off? Don't answer that.

All this adds up to me wanting a MAC version. I'll keep buying
vinyl,
 I
love listening to it at home and almost all the music I own in on
 wax,
  but
come on, get that heavy record bag off my shoulder and I'm a happy
  camper.

- Giles

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Re: [313] All Access 2 / Control

[The Deliverator]

From the description of it, I think this is the same track he ended the +8
party last year at saint andrews with.  I wish I knew what it was :-)

jim

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 At 4:37 PM -0400 5/30/02, scotto wrote:
 I d/l the song and it was not this track.
 
 I got the impression that it was live or a new track or something
 because it was not mixed in or out and at the end he stopped and everyone
 clapped.
 
 it was more an epic peice of material like steven riech or can, it's hard
to
 describe I was pretty drunk by 11 am.

 who knows... as much as he might like to tease john about it, rich
 has just as many 'secret squirrel' records as john does.  go record
 shopping around the globe for a decade and you'll find some pretty
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Re: [313] last day of pemf

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you have to be friends or industry.  

I am not either unfortunately :-(

jim


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 whats the rsvp about here?
 
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Re: [313] last day of pemf

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Well, if we are adding people to the list, ya might as well put me on there
too :-)  Either that or Have Fred G. show up at my hotel for a nice private
set ;-)

jim

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 that sux

 :(

 I'd like to be on the list please. :)

 -Joe

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  Its guest list only.
 
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  whats the rsvp about here?
 
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Re: [313] last day of pemf

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Thanks!

jim

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 I'll see what I can do for you guys.  It probably won't be a problem.

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  Well, if we are adding people to the list, ya might as well put me on
there
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private
  set ;-)
 
  jim
 
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  that sux
 
  :(
 
  I'd like to be on the list please. :)
 
  -Joe
 
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  Its guest list only.
 
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[313] OT: Hermann Kleine

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Greetings All,

Anyone pick up the new hermann  kleine cd 'our noise' yet?  Not quite as
epic in scope as 'kickboardgirl,' but a most excellent disc nonetheless.  It
even contains an excursion into jesus  mary chain styled pop.

These are the guys that introduced me to the whole Morr music sound, which I
seem to be listening to more and more of lately.  Anyway two thumbs up.

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[313] intergral pictures?

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About a year ago someone posted a link that had pictures from the plus 8
party 'integral' in pittsburgh.  I want to show a friend of mine the pics
but can't find the page.  Any help appreciated.

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Re: [313] intergral pictures?

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I didn't have any glow sticks with me at the party :-)  I'm more than a
little old for them anyway.

jim

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 No glow sticks allowed!

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 About a year ago someone posted a link that had pictures from the plus 8
 party 'integral' in pittsburgh.  I want to show a friend of mine the pics
 but can't find the page.  Any help appreciated.

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Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

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I was trying to find the words to express these exact thoughts below.
Thanks for doing it for me :-)

jim

http://www.assasins.net

We can talk about the machine and how it effects us
until we are blue. I think it's obvious that we know
who the demons are here..it's just a matter if you
make it your choice to challenge them on a daily basis
or you are one to choose your battles. For me, the
most important things I get out of these discussions
is the lesson to question things that seem a bit too
easy and try and kick the machine as often as
possible. I don't think it will ever be broken (though
maybe when we get a black, female US president) but at
least it personally feels good to challenge it as much
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Re: [313] Ulrich Schnauss

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It's one of my favorite cd's of the year.  It hasn't left my cd changer in
over 2.5 months.  Love it.  Buy it :-)

jim

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Subject: [313] Ulrich Schnauss


  On a similar tip, the Ulrich Schauss album on City Centre Offices is
  brilliant. Someone ought to use this in a film soundtrack!
 absolutely... I'd be curious to know what people on this list think of it,
 the reactions I got were either love it or hate it...
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Re: [313] surveillance recordings?

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deifferent label than the one I thought of, sorry :-)

jim

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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:47 AM
Subject: [313] surveillance recordings?


 I picked up a great 12 in Rubadub yesterday by DFA (Deterministic Finite
 Automata), snappily titled 'Microstructural Chracterization' on
Surveillance
 Recordings from Detroit. 3 tracks of minimal but extremely soulful and
 melodic electronic house/techno, very very nice indeed. Just wondering if
 anyone had any more info on DFA or the Surveillance label, and if there's
 any other recommended material worth checking out?

 Their website (http://www.surveillancerecordings.com/) looks great but
 there's no actual content...

 Cheers,

 Tom

 | tom churchill
 | emoticon recordings uk
 | emot 005 - connective zone/jeff samuel/scape one/schmutzig (out feb
2002)
 | emot 006 - otomi - zusammen/vertrauen (out feb 2002)
 | website/info - http://www.emoticonrecordings.com
 | distribution - http://www.rushhour.nl


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Fw: [313] DEMF or what?

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 Don't forget the ALL FORD ALL THE TIME  Stage.

 jim

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  i think the police dashboard video from some of tim allens detroit
  roadside sobriety tests on large screen would be a fine addition to
  these stellar offerings ...
 
 
  On Tuesday, February 12, 2002, at 03:34 PM, joshtwentythree wrote:
 
   Well actually, there are going to be a lot of really
   exciting things going on at the DEMF this year...first
   off, there will be a group of greeters at the main
   gate they are a group of highly trained howler monkeys
   with a penchant for throwing poop...they will be
   wearing t-shirts that say demf posse in da hiz-ouse
   muthafuckas so you can easily spot them, they will
   have great goodies to hand out, such as throwing poop
   at you, and stuff with poop on it...also maybe some
   things they were gnawing on...some of the top
   performers will be regular detroit favorites such as
   Lisa Lashes, Judge Jules, Paul Oakenfold and a
   performance by 313 favorite, Moby...also a special
   rare performance by dubiously named godfather of
   detroit techno...Cat Stevens!...the master of
   ceremony this year will be none other then the lovable
   scamp carrot top, and a special speaker...TV's Bob
   Saget!!! he will be regaling the crowd with anecdotes
   of his early years growing up in the ghettos of
   detroit...also, a new addition this year will be that,
   instead of buying overpriced food from vendors, they
   will actually be able to just knock you down, take
   your wallet and smear some sort of food substance on
   your face while asking you like that bitch!...so as
   you can see the demf as a lot to offer this year.
  
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Re: [313] St Vitus Dance (was: RE: (313) Elements Of Jazz CD)

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it's also a rockin Bauhaus tune :-)

jim, showing his gothboy roots :-)
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Subject: [313] St Vitus Dance (was: RE: (313) Elements Of Jazz CD)


St Vitus Dance isn't that a Dan Curtin alias that he used on Peacefrog?

W
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To: '313' 313@hyperreal.org at INET-1
Subject: [313] Elements Of Jazz CD


Just found this CD in the Sale at the local store for a mere £3.99.
mostly early tracks from rs, transmat, djax, peacefrog

Elements Of Jazz -
 01 3Mb Ft Juan Atkins - Jazz Is The Teacher
 02 Men In Black - Corcavado
 03 Patrick Pulsinger - Citylights Part 2
 05 Dan Curtin - Out Of Sight  Mind
 05 K Alexi - Jazz
 06 St Vitus Dance - Mystic Vibrations
 07 Dave Angel - Lagoon
 08 Bango (Stacey Pullen) - Sphinx
 09 Integrity - The Way I Live
 10 Glen Underground - Tech-Na-Logie
 11 Vango Noir - On The Sly

It was on Kickin' Records from 1996 KICK CD41. Anyone know
if this label is still aroundIf so a biblio pls.

Cheers

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Re: [313] hawtin fanboy q

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Oh no.  Not again.  Everyone put on your asbestos suits, cause the flames
are a-startin' :-)


jim

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 He had four new sliders added to his mixing bored. He has a stereo pair of
 channels that are labels sucks and another stereo pair that are labels
 rocks.

 If he wants a track to suck, he turns all the Sucks sliders up.
 If he wants a track to rock, he turns all the Rocks sliders up.

 Hawtin finally realized that he actually had nothing to do with the
creation
 of his music, it was just his gear doing all the work. Besides, it is not
a
 big deal because he doesn't even make real music in the first place.



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 when richie refers to his Allen  and Heath Xone 62 mixer (drool) he says
 it is  modifiedanyone know what he has had done to it?
 
 soz if u view this as off topic
 
 
 
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Re: [313] Ableton Live

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fabulous software.  Written by monolake.  Jim live with just a laptop, motu
828, 909, and a mixing board coming soon.

Also sampling all my records for a sort of live de9:ce.  Missy elliot and
jeff mills at 135 bpm is pure techno goodness strangely enough :-)

jim

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Subject: [313] Ableton Live


 Ableton Live Program
 Max download 5 users
 Don't hammer it if it's full.

 If you download please reply.

 ftp://detroit:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:6667/Ableton.zip

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Re: [313] Ableton Live

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Heh,

I called my local guitar center, and they quoted me $200 over the phone for
Live.  I left immediatly to pick it up, and then when it rang up at $350, I
forced them to give it to me for $200 anyway.  I'm amazed at how this store
is willing to lose money over and over again because of their own mistakes
:-)  Good customer service though.  I also got a vopy of recycle 2 from them
for $60.

jim

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  although i'm not 100% against software piracy, please
  remember that ableton
  is a VERY small company right now, and live is their first piece of
  software, and its a great piece of software, and its only
  been out a couple
  of months, and they need the fucking money.

 Live is a really innovative piece of software, from what i have seen and
 heard the last couple of months it is really worth it's money. Why not
spend
 350$ for a unique piece of software, it's really usefull and it's timewrap
 function is amazing and really don't think this list is the place promote
 and distibute pirated software.

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Re: [313]How much Guitar Center Rocks

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Heh,  and they do it a lot.  I ordered a massive omnirax mixing station from
them last year.  They gave me a price about $500 less than omnirax direct,
and then forgot to charge me another $500 in shipping :-)  When they
realized it, they just kinda shrugged and said 'well, we didn't put the
shipping on your quote, so we'll eat it.  I'm more than willing to put up
with the long lines for help, and a myriad of four year old children banging
on synths to get those kind of deals..I think that store hasn't turned a
proffit in three years because of me!

jim

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Subject: [313]How much Guitar Center Rocks


 I went into GC earlyier this year to get replacement needles for my
 DiscMaster cartriges.  he said they were $15 or something while the whole
 Cartrige w/needle included was $39.99...He tried and tried to talk me into
 getting the cartriges for that price and i said No way dude
 To make a long dialogue filled story short, he ended up selling me 3
 cartriges for $20.00 a piece.  half friggen price.  The salesmen get paid
a
 certain amount of comission on each individual item they sell.  So if they
 can get more comission on an item by cutting the price in half, then they
 are more then willing to.  I like that one alot.

 jeff

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  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:58 AM
  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: [313] Ableton Live
 
  I bought a Lexicon MPX-500 for $500, and 2 weeks later
  they dropped it to $400.  I went back and they
  credited my card $100 for the difference.  You gotta
  love that. Their customer service is the best, I pass
  right buy Mars Music on the way to GC every time
  because Mars' service sucks.
 
  Kevin
 
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   Heh,
  
   I called my local guitar center, and they quoted me
   $200 over the phone for
   Live.  I left immediatly to pick it up, and then
   when it rang up at $350, I
   forced them to give it to me for $200 anyway.  I'm
   amazed at how this store
   is willing to lose money over and over again because
   of their own mistakes
   :-)  Good customer service though.  I also got a
   vopy of recycle 2 from them
   for $60.
  
   jim
  
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   To: 313@hyperreal.org
   Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:07 AM
   Subject: RE: [313] Ableton Live
  
  
   
 although i'm not 100% against software piracy,
   please
 remember that ableton
 is a VERY small company right now, and live is
   their first piece of
 software, and its a great piece of software, and
   its only
 been out a couple
 of months, and they need the fucking money.
   
Live is a really innovative piece of software,
   from what i have seen and
heard the last couple of months it is really worth
   it's money. Why not
   spend
350$ for a unique piece of software, it's really
   usefull and it's timewrap
function is amazing and really don't think this
   list is the place promote
and distibute pirated software.
   
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[313] re: Ableton Live

[The Deliverator]

Stright from their webpage:

The company was founded, among others, by the Berlin-based computer music
project Monolake in fall 1999. Since their beginning in 1995, Monolake have
always written their own programs to realize their vision of sound and
structure. They have performed live electronic music in clubs and concert
halls around the globe, so it comes as no surprise that Ableton's first
product offers a solution for live performance.


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Re: [313] about the members

[The Deliverator]

ok here goes;

29, almost 30 years old.
Network admin and oracle dba for a small manufacturing firm.
Born in detroit, grew up in roseville, still visit detroit a bunch.  Lived
in cleveland oh for the past 9 years.
occasionaly make my own tracks (plug!) at http://www.assasins.net
313 Subbed for 2.5 years

jim


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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:42 PM
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 okay ... Ian's thrown down the gauntlet (data glove?):

 33 years old.
 Copywriter for ad agency devoted to one of the Big 3.
 Born in Detroit. Live in the Metro Area.
 Write about techno. Visit my vinyl collection in the basement when
 schedule permits.
 313 subscriber for 7 years.

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[313] o/t gear/software auctions

[deliverator]

Greets,

Some auctions I have going on ebay: you may need to cut and paste the url if
it wraps.  You can also do a search by username: zarathustra93.

rebirth 2.0. I have all the roland boxes now, don't need it anymore :-)
info @ www.propellerheads.se

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1320321504r=0t=0sh
owTutorial=0ed=1011229212indexURL=0rd=1


MOTU midi time piece a/v: more info at www.motu.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1500548307r=0t=0sh
owTutorial=0ed=1011225571indexURL=0rd=1


SGI Irix 6.5.3 full installation cd set: for the tech weenies :-)

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1320311460r=0t=0sh
owTutorial=0ed=1011227426indexURL=0rd=1


Keyspan SX Pro four port serial card for macintosh:  more info at
www.keyspan.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1320311460r=0t=0sh
owTutorial=0ed=1011227426indexURL=0rd=1

thanks

jim


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[313] O/T Gear for sale

[deliverator]

Greetings,

I have a few items for sale:

Keyspan SX Pro 4 port serial card.  Add four serial ports to any PCI based
Mac.  Purchased six months ago.  Original box and packaging.  Asking $150
OBO.

MOTU Midi Time Piece A/V serial.  8 port midi interface, with many
timing/sync standards.  More info at:
http://www.motu.com/english/hardware/mtpav_usb/body.html  .  Purchased one
year ago for $500, asking $400 OBO.


Alesis Midiverb 2 EFX processor.  Reverb/gate/delay/etc.  Asking $75 OBO.
Specs at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1402945806  (not my
auction!)

thanks

jim



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Re: [313] legion of green men

[deliverator]

Spatial specific is still one of my all time favorite cd's.  I'd love to
hear what they are doing now.

jim

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From: Mxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ivan Tomasevic [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [313] legion of green men


 2 guys from Ontario, Canada...prolly best known for Spatial Specific (that
 must be 6-7 years ago) which was released via +8. There were a few more
 singles back then and another full length a few years ago (Floating in
 Shallow Water?). Their stuff is quite dense, very blurred around the
 edges/sounds drug-fogged sorta beat laden ambience with some vague
hip-hop
 sensibilites tossed in. Reminds me of old DJ Spooky when he was good, but
 not as, um, death-tripped. They recorded under other aliases as well.
  jeff




 At 06:31 AM 11/16/2001, Ivan Tomasevic wrote:

 can someone provide me with informations about this guy (or guys)?
 
 thanks
 
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Re: [313] NOSTALGIA

[deliverator]

That's a shame.  I have found many a good cd at the cut out bin at My Gen.

Though in my humble opinion, Bent Crayon is still the best record shop in
the midwest...

jim


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From: Lee Herrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:58 PM
Subject: [313] NOSTALGIA




   A few days ago, I stopped at a local record store that I used to
frequent.
 Some of you Cleveland 313'ers might know of My Generation.  As early as
2000
 it was possible to find Elecktroids, Dan Curtin, Octave One, Urban Tribe,
 Kenny Larkin, Morgan Geist, Drexciya and other mind-blowing artists in the
 cut-out bin.  I am talking 50% to 67% discounts on some of the rarest
and
 finest out-of-print Detroit direct and inspired material.  I still
remember
 catching my breath when I bought The Web Of Life for $5.87.
   Anyway, to get to my point, when I stopped in recently... the clearance
 bin I knew was gone!  They still have a section of cut-outs, but it does
not
 provide the 313 addict with any material.  I can only guess that they may
 have decided to discard the old material.  Oh well...  years before this
sad
 occurrence I was feeding my vinyl habit at Bent Crayon.  I am still able
to
 get my hands on primo Red Planet EP's, but nothing beats paying $4.35 for
 mint copy of Panic In Detroit.  No sh#t...  I still reel at that
 discovery.  Any other 313'ers have similar amazing discovery tales?

 regards,
 LRH

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[313] New Tracks

[deliverator]

Greetings All,

Just a quick note to let you know that I have two new tracks available at
http://www.assasins.net

the first track is entitled Tabla Jam.  It is a collaboration between
myself and John C.  It is a very long (24 minutes,) and almost meditative
track.  I know that the size of this file will not be good for those on
modems, but you should be ble to stream it ok.  If interested, email me
privately and I will burn a CD.  I'm quite proud of this track, so please
let me know what you think!

The second track is unagi.  It is a bangin' techno track in the style of
Utility Plastics.  I experimented with several parts of the song falling in
and out of time with each other.  The track is hard, but still remains
lighthearted.

thanks

jim


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Re: [313] technology

[deliverator]

I purchased that exact tape from a rekkid store somewhere.  That was most
certainly *not* hawtin.  Just a quick way for someone to make a buck.  If
you want to hear some of his more recent sets, download morpheus and type in
hawtin

jim

http://www.assasins.net
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From: chad m sponholz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: DJ Entropy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [313] technology



 i bought a tape from my local record store a few years back that
 just said richie hawtin on it with a neat minimal-looking front...
 supposedly it was a live set from somewhere.  i've since given away the
 tape so i can't be sure what the info on it said unless it magically
 re-appears somehow...

 long story short:

 THAT SH*T WAS TRANCE AS F**K!!!

 On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, DJ Entropy wrote:

 +---Original Message---
 +
 +all i have to say is who else has ventured out into the land of
 +experimantation like hawtin has on the closer to the edit CD??
 +
 +Link anywhere?
 +
 +I wanna hear just how experimental hawtin suppossedly is.
 +
 +heh.
 +
 +Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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Re: [313] Techno for funerals

[deliverator]

Hm, not exactly techno, but anything off of spatial specific by Legion
of Green Men, and Windowpane @ the Snow by Coil.  A coiuple of tracks off of
Surgeon's force and form as well while I'm thinking about it..

jim


http://www.assasins.net
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:33 AM
Subject: [313] Techno for funerals


 Oi!

 Which techno track do you want to be played at your funeral?
 My last wish would be: The Martian  Model 500 - Search your Feelings
 (RedPlanet-4)

 R.
 (hey...just asking!)


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Fw: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?

[deliverator]

Forgot to copy the whole list.  Here is my reply:

 Yawn.

 Techno Elitism at its worst IMHO..

 As so many people have pointed out.  It ain't the gear that makes the
music.
 It's the *people*  The godfathers had the least amount of equipment, and
 still made some of the most powerful music.

 Oh well, so the masses won't have a copy of the latest uber cool laptop
 synth- it still won't make my music any less fulfilling.

 Techno for the people ;-)

 jim, an admitted gear whore.

 http://www.assasins.net

  nowadays he just uses a laptop with software that was customized by the
 guys
  from Deepchord on their Dairy Ranch in Wisconsin. He is using the DC/TC
  Electronics Hiss-Inducer VST Plug-in series, as well as their custom
  DeepSynth VST Plug-in(which all the DC records were made with, and
  processed through as well as many of the new Salz and Kompakt records.)
 Good
  luck getting a copy, DC use a dongle system and they only give copies to
  recognized producers whose records they know and respect. I have been
told
  that there are less than 20 copies in circulation(the Basic Channel/Carl
  Craig split on Planet E used the software and one of the prototype T.C.
  Electronics boxes the are developing.)
 
  Take care,
  mt
 
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  To: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?
  Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:21:14 -0400
  
  two yamaha qy-700's, a  jomox xbas-09, and a bunch of efx in cleveland.
  
  jim
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  Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?
  
  
I watched him play off only a laptop in Minneapolis a while back...
MP3s of the set are floating around the net.
   
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Fw: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?

[deliverator]

Forgot to copy the whole list.  Here is my reply:

 Yawn.

 Techno Elitism at its worst IMHO..

 As so many people have pointed out.  It ain't the gear that makes the
music.
 It's the *people*  The godfathers had the least amount of equipment, and
 still made some of the most powerful music.

 Oh well, so the masses won't have a copy of the latest uber cool laptop
 synth- it still won't make my music any less fulfilling.

 Techno for the people ;-)

 jim, an admitted gear whore.

 http://www.assasins.net

  nowadays he just uses a laptop with software that was customized by the
 guys
  from Deepchord on their Dairy Ranch in Wisconsin. He is using the DC/TC
  Electronics Hiss-Inducer VST Plug-in series, as well as their custom
  DeepSynth VST Plug-in(which all the DC records were made with, and
  processed through as well as many of the new Salz and Kompakt records.)
 Good
  luck getting a copy, DC use a dongle system and they only give copies to
  recognized producers whose records they know and respect. I have been
told
  that there are less than 20 copies in circulation(the Basic Channel/Carl
  Craig split on Planet E used the software and one of the prototype T.C.
  Electronics boxes the are developing.)
 
  Take care,
  mt
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (deliverator)
  To: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
  Subject: Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?
  Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:21:14 -0400
  
  two yamaha qy-700's, a  jomox xbas-09, and a bunch of efx in cleveland.
  
  jim
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  To: 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?
  
  
I watched him play off only a laptop in Minneapolis a while back...
MP3s of the set are floating around the net.
   
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Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?

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two yamaha qy-700's, a  jomox xbas-09, and a bunch of efx in cleveland.

jim
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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?


 I watched him play off only a laptop in Minneapolis a while back...
 MP3s of the set are floating around the net.
 
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Re: [313] Re: Brinkmann Gear?

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two yamaha qy-700's, a  jomox xbas-09, and a bunch of efx in cleveland.

jim
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 I watched him play off only a laptop in Minneapolis a while back...
 MP3s of the set are floating around the net.
 
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[313] New Track

[deliverator]

Greetings All,

apologies for the crosspost.

I have a new track available at http://www.assasins.net

It is simply entitled Dirge.  It's my personal reaction to the events of
9/11/2001.

It isn't happy, and it isn't techno, but I think it turned out quite well.
Be patient, it builds slowly.

thanks

jim


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[313] Link error: new track

[deliverator]

Greetings,

I had several people email me last night telling me that
http://www.assasins.net was coming up 404.  Well, it seems to work for me
this morning, but just in case, you can also access the page at

http://www.ampcast.com/zarathustra

jim

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[313] Fw: [blacksun93] National ID cards / tracking

[deliverator]

 http://www.msnbc.com/news/630118.asp?0dm=C17JN

 read this.  fight this.

 http://www.assasins.net


 www.blacksun93.org

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[313] New Tracks

[deliverator]

Greetings All,

This is a just a quick note to let you know that I have four new tracks
available:

1.) Project 2012 (the end of the begining)  A techno(?)with an industrial
leaning. This track was made utilizing the ambient sounds outside of my
house.
2.) Happy.  Yes, I made a tracks that is not dark and moody.
3.) 808 Jam.  Self explanitory :-)
4.) Dionysus.  Dark techno.

you can find them all at:

http://www.assasins.net

As always, any and all feedback appreciated.

you may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

jim


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[313] Fw: Tronic Treatment Benefit Event

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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: Tronic Treatment Benefit Event


 NYC BENEFIT : FRIDAY SEPT 14, 2001
 
 In support of the rescue efforts I will be part of the Tronic Treatment
 Benefit Event tonight at Guernica in NYC.  We hope to see everyone.
 
 100% of the proceeds will be donated to the fire and police department
 victims. Please support this cause by donating $10 at the door.
 
 Richie Hawtin
 Derrick Carter
 Christian Smith
 Joel Mull
 Alexi Delano
 
 9 pm - 4am
 
 Guernica
 25 Ave B (between 2nd and 3rd st)
 New York City
 212.674.0984
 
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Re: [313] From Alt.prophecies.nostrodamus

[deliverator]

nah,

the corvette forum just redirects to google groups: groups.google.com .  I
also subscribe to supernews, the messages are in their archive as well.

here's one of his posts, claiming on setp 4th that he will explain on set
11th:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Xinoehpoelstart=10group=alt.prophecies.n
ostradamusrnum=11selm=3B9EF647.9F5C9192%40flash.net

and just the group:

http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.prophecies.nostradamus

Several people have already reported the guy to the fbi. It should be
interesting to see if anything happens with it.

jim, who does not think this guy is a prophet, but does think he may have
known something.

http://www.assasins.net
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From: Dan Sicko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: deliverator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [313] From Alt.prophecies.nostrodamus


 All this on the Corvette forum?

 At 8:40 AM -0400 9/12/01, deliverator wrote:
 Forwarded from another list.  This is a redirect to google groups, which
 used to be dejanews, the largest usenet reporsitory.  Notice the title of
 the message, and the date posted.  This would be difficult to spoof, and
 with others reactions to the original post, it would appear that Xin
 actually posted the message on 8-31.
 
 Freaky.
 
 jim
 http://www.assasins.net
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   These links were sent to me earlier today.  It's very strange.
 
   Will
 
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Re: [313] Price for party Scan 6 bones sept 14

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 FAKE HATERS

flattery will get you nowhere...

jim, who wonders if fake haters are just pretending to hate :-)

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Re: [313] WTC

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we have one suspected plane on the ground possibly with a bomb in cleveland.
Another hijaked plane was diversted from cleveland, and at last update had
just passed toledo.  It *could be on its way to detroit or chicago.
Also a van in east cleveland with blacked out windows surrounded by about 20
cop cars.

To those in NYC  DC, good luck.

I hope everyone out there is safe.

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Re: [313] Your Opinions PLEASE!

[deliverator]

Hey man,

I just made a smart ass comment to another post.  I am not a moderater, and
do not control what party info gets posted to the list.

thousands of people just died.  Screw the party.

jim

http://www.assasins.net


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From: T Mind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Your Opinions PLEASE!


 Everyone on the list I would like your oppinion on this matter . I live in
 detroit and love the detroit techno scene. My question is do you agree
with
 the [EMAIL PROTECTED] for not posting my info regarding the
 scan 7 party, he has only posted the price , How can this possibly help
the
 party, and also what sense does it make to single me out because I made a
 point of saying why calll this 313 if you only want to post  Richie's
Partys
 and SELECTED other artist info where they are playing. Please give your
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[313] Control track id's

[deliverator]

Greetings all,

For those who went to control the other night.  Richie had a righteous set
going on right about 5am that started with 'minus' by rob hood.  The next
two or three records after that were quite spectacular as well. Any
trainspotters remember what tracks they were?  I could try and describe
them, but I think I'm lacking the right wordsa long shot I know, but
it never hurts to ask.

jim

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Re: [313] DE9 closer id

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I suspect that he used electrix' repeater a bit as well.  The perfect tool
for loopoopooping,

I've already heard people slag on this CD.  People aren't happy when
Hawtin's bangin', and they aren't happy when he's minimal and (imho) funky.
No winning is there?

jim

 I listened to the cd once online (i was real icky about listening to it
more
 than that, since i prefer to support the artists), and i really enjoyed
it.
 The only track 'sample' i could pick out right away was spastik, and well,
 its hard to miss that one. It was a difficult cd to classify (as we humans
 love to do); deep at times, downtempo at times, house at times, but i
don't
 remember any 'hard' moments. You can tell that hawtin has really gotten
into
 using sonic foundry's ACID program.



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Re: [313] DE9 closer id

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The repeater allows one to edit loops on a pee cee or mac, and then drop the
sound files onto smart media.  From that point syncing, stretching, pitch
shifting, etc can all sync up to midi.  Pretty schweet.  I wouldn'y be
suprised if he used acid thoughalong with a variety of other tools.

jim (no more gear talk, i promise)

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 in the realdetroit interview it says that he used final scratch? i kind of
 doubt that he could do that type of editing with a live tool though, but
 then again i haven't tried final scratch...

 Christian Bloch
 http://mp3.com/bloch

 Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque
 Droppings/Set.Go/Restructured

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  I suspect that he used electrix' repeater a bit as well.  The perfect
tool
  for loopoopooping,
 
  I've already heard people slag on this CD.  People aren't happy when
  Hawtin's bangin', and they aren't happy when he's minimal and (imho)
 funky.
  No winning is there?
 
  jim
 
   I listened to the cd once online (i was real icky about listening to
it
  more
   than that, since i prefer to support the artists), and i really
enjoyed
  it.
   The only track 'sample' i could pick out right away was spastik, and
 well,
   its hard to miss that one. It was a difficult cd to classify (as we
 humans
   love to do); deep at times, downtempo at times, house at times, but i
  don't
   remember any 'hard' moments. You can tell that hawtin has really
gotten
  into
   using sonic foundry's ACID program.
 
 
 
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Re: [313] Control

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heh.  that's the message from demf weekend.  I don't thik they have updated
the info line yet...

if you are coming from demf...

I'm driving up to record time today from cleveland, hopefully they'll have
tickets already

jim
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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 4:28 AM
Subject: [313] Control


 The info line says its today, the website says its one week from now. Or
is
 it both??!!!



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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

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I'm the somebody:

hopefully the encoding for this doesn't get messed up.  If it does, i'll
re-edit it.

and not really feeling argumentative, if you don't agree that's fine with
me:

http://www.bobmarley.com/life/musicalinfluences/punkyreggae/

Well, Bob was influenced by punk at least.

and the show the brought the connection to light for me on pbs:

The Ramones, Patti Smith, Talking Heads and Blondie light a fuse in America
that explodes in London with the cynical inner-city punk spirit of the Sex
Pistols and The Clash. Sharing a sense of alienation and rebellion, they
champion the Bob Marley-led reggae movement.  -
http://www.pbs.org/cgi-registry/whatson/template.cgir?s=WVIZt=2p=1490c=d;
d=2001-08-13

Punk explores two late `70s musical innovations that shaped rock and roll
through the next decade: punk and reggae. In New York, members of Blondie,
Talking Heads, Television, and the Ramones tell how they inadvertently
created the cynical, urban, stripped-down sound that became punk rock. In
London, punk takes off with the Sex Pistols, and members of the Wailers and
the Clash recall how Jamaican reggae, another musical form of rebellion,
crossed international boundaries, deeply influencing punk and pop rock. 
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/rocknroll/rnrtv.html

By combining a punk attitude with the rhythms of reggae - a musical import
from Jamaica popularized by Bob Marley - bands like the Police, the
Pretenders and Elvis Costello and the Attractions created a hybrid that
proved both infectious and commercially acceptable in a way that hardcore
punk was not.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/rocknroll/rnrpunk.html

The Sex Pistols had broken up the previous year and the Clash were
considered the standard bearers of Punk. The concerts were the scathing
attacks of fury that had earned the group its reputation as a high energy
concert draw. The band returned to the UK after the tour to begin writing
for their new album to be produced by Guy Stevens who had produced the
Clash's demos for Polygram in 1977. So much material had been recorded that
the album was set to be a double. (Time is Tight a Booker T cover the band
had been playing since 1977 was recorded for the LP but was not included).
The title song was released in advance of the album (the album's working
title was the New Testament) with the flip side Armagideon Time. That song
hadbeen a reggae hit for Jamaican singer Wille Williams in 1978, but the
Clash's version was so far superior to the original it has since become to
be associated with the band as their song. 
http://members.aol.com/secretsun3/history.html

Roxane by the police came out in 1978, well before the 1988 date you cite.
Then there's always regatta de blanc in 1979,  walking on the moon.

I guess it really does all come down to one's definition of punk after
allbut I think there is enough evidence of cross-polination.

and no, I am not iggy pop.

jim

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 Somebody wrote:
 ~~
 Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks
primary
 influences was Jamaican reggae  dubb.  Just had to bring it all back full
 circle.
 ~~

 Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim?  Are you
Iggy
 Pop?  The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the
message
 they tried to get across.  Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and
 sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk
cross
 pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit
the
 scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd
 really like to know where you got this idea.

 Cheers
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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?

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Well,

Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary
influences was Jamaican reggae  dubb.  Just had to bring it all back full
circle.

Actually pbs had a very interesting show a couple weeks ago regarding the
influence of reggae on punk music.  I was fabu to hear that the original
version of 'heart of glass' was reggae :-)

jim

http://www.assasins.net
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From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: M Elliot-Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?


 On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, M Elliot-Knight wrote:

  I'd say that Jamacians did have a major influence, not just with dub
though.
  Look at turntablism and New York's hip-hop/electro scene, in particular
one
  DJ Kool Herc (born in Kingston, Jamaica). He brought in the idea of
sampling
  and breakbeats. Without him might hardcore and drum  bass never been
  realized?

 I haven't wanted to get social sciency on the list...but I have questions
 about this.  Are we making a distinction between primary and secondary
 influences?  It seems to me that a primary influence--like Mojo--would
 have to be an influence that is direct.  I listen to Mojo ergo I am
 influenced.  I listen to Kraftwerk, ergo I am influenced.  It also seems
 to me that a secondary influence--like the Jamaican one here--would have
 to be an influence that is INdirect.  Kool Herc created the
 breakbeat...some disco DJ picked up this and influenced someone in
 Chicago...who happened to spin while Derrick May was working in a record
 store.  Herc is an influence then...but not a primary influence.

 peace
 lks



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Re: [313] Andrew Duke...?

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Greetings all,

for those in the cleveland area, Lance still works at bent crayon on friday
evening's, and sometimes saturday morning. John @ bent crayon is a walking
encyclopedia of music as well. I can't tell you how many killer records both
of these guys have tipped me off to over the years.  They're both really
great people.

jim

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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Andrew Duke...?


 Last  I spoke with him he was making some changes in his personal and
 musical life. Cognition lost its syndication awhile ago, which is why you
 have not heard anything from that show lately. He is still doing a local
 show and running a local college station, which is what is taking most of
 his time these days.

 He has also been concentrating on his own music again. I got a promo cdr
 earlier in the year, he is doing dark ambient material. Lance McGannon
 praised it when it was making the rounds earlier in the year. Andrew will
 also have track on the next issue of Masstransfer.
 http://www.masstransfer.net/

 I think he and Lance both ran into the same situation. You work your ass
off
 at something because you love it, but you get very little financial
reward.
 Time passes, you get burnt out and you need to start making money...blah
 blah blah... It is a shame for these lists because both of those guys
 contributed so much information. I think the level of education on the
lists
 has gone down because of the fact that Lance and Andrew are not pointing
out
 articles or giving 30 release discography info and reviews, followed by 5
 artists who you should check out if you are into a similar sound. There
are
 still people contributing, but it is not like it was.

 Either way, Andrew deserves props because he worked his ass off to bring
 this music to people who would not have heard it, and to better inform the
 people who already had.

 Take care,
 mt

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  Anyone know what's the latest with Cognition Audioworks?  Does the
program
  not run in the summer?  I haven't seen any posts by Duke in forever!
 
 
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[313] all time 313 FLOP

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well, not really 313, but there's aways 2unlimited, and sesame's treat.
yack!

jim (who still loves latour's 'blue')

http://www.assasins.net

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From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:23 AM
Subject: [313] all time 313 FLOP


This is gonna be fun!!

not 313 but,

Theres no, the-the-theres no, the-the-theres no limts Ad naseum and Ad
infiniteum

Oh yeah and

This beat is, this beat is, this beat is technotronic

ROFL - -  ARF!!!

The Mobyies/Oakendsold/Judge Fules of that time. Sorry soundnt open that can
of worms. No wonder techno remains underground after being so messed up
whenever
corps think EZ $£$£$£ can be made.

Rav



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 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:17 AM
 To: 313 list
 Subject: [313] R: [313] all time 313 tops

 seriouswhat about all time 313 flops guys?/serious

 fab


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 From: Brian Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'diana potts' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; enlighten 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 7:58 PM
 Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops


  I actually think the CCraig remix of Loosing Control is one of the
 weaker
  remixes he's ever done.
 
  How about his Deee-Lite remix, featured on their remix album after the
 band
  added more vocals, then released in his original dubby version on the
  flipside of the 2000 Designer Music promo 12?
 
  --Brian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: diana potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 6:54 AM
  To: enlighten
  Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops
 
 
  yeah...I often wonder how much mine is worth now...
  ;)
 
 
  that... and my Kenny Larkin on Plus8
 
 
  d
  Peaches is playing tonight at the Magic Stick. WOO
  HOO!!
 
  --- John Osselaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What about the remix he did for 'Loosing Control'? I
   would love to get my
   hands on that one. Still playing the original
   though.
  
   John
  
  
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   To: Rob Theakston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   CC: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mann,
   Ravinder   [CCS]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops
   Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:19:38 -0400 (EDT)
   
   
   C2 X 5 = rmx
   
   Stevie Knows - Ok its not a remix, but close
   enough.
   Good Life - I know your going to like it - Uh huh
   yeah
   Moskow Disko - sounds better than the original
   Believe - The Reese Project - Dusty Classic
   .
   C2 Remix id most like to hear
   Talking Heads - Once in a lifetime - :P
   
   agci
   
   
   
   On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Rob Theakston wrote:
   
 top five c2 rmxs

 johnny blas-picadillo
 talking heads- once in a lifetime (69 edit)
 tori amos- god
 innerzone orchestra- people make the world go
   round
 blaze-lovelee dae

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 From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:44 AM
 To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: [313] all time 313 tops


 Here's some more from spotty memory:

 Tori Amos - God
 Recloose - I Can't Take It
 Chez n Trent - Help Myself

 I *love* this topic. :)

 Tristan
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 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 5:24 AM
 Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops


  refunking e-dancers world of deep to nearly
   a new track must be up
 there.
  taking out the trash programming on BTs
   moment of truth
 
  incognito was out of the storm such a
   mediocre track to start
  with, pretty good by the time CC finished with
   it.
 
  Will there be a designer music pt2 ?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Wibo Lammerts
   [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:10 AM
   To: 313@hyperreal.org
   Subject: RE: [313] all time 313 tops
  
   that Johnny Blas remix on New Latinaires 1
   is still my fave. Or what
 about
   that Incognito remix? Nights over Egypt?
  
   -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
   Van: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Verzonden: woensdag 1 augustus 2001 11:09
   Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
   Onderwerp: RE: [313] all time 313 tops
  
  
   more of this rather then bitching about
   moby, fatboy, oakensold !!!
  
   top 5 Carl Craig remixes anyone ?
  
  
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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 

[313] telepathica

[deliverator]

Greets All,

Just a quick email to let people know that the mp3's Fred made available on
his website are quite spectacular.  If you haven't gotten them
yethttp://www.telepathica.com .

jim (hoping i'll be half as good one day :-)


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Re: [313] The Master of Minimalism on thursday

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u, brian eno. How's that? :-)

jim

Now someone just needs to mention Brian Eno and my day
 will be complete.
 
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[313] New Tracks

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Greetings All,

Just a quick note to let people know that I have two new tracks available:

1.) Dionysus.  Dark orgiastic techno.  Quiet ambient intro, be forwarned,
don't turn volume up too early.

2.) Proffit.  Down-tempo glitchy track using samples from everyone's
favorite new-age looney elizabeth claire.

both are available at:

http://www.assasins.net

as always, any and all feedback appreciated.

thanks!

jim


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Re: [313] LFO Comeback?

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Unfortunately, the black hole known as
 Force Inc has claimed yet another producer...

Errr?  Gez has been quite prolific over the past several years.  At least 5
12s that I can think of off of the top of my head, and two full length
releases.Or am I just missing the context of the comment?

jim


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[313] test

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my turn, sorry!

jim


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Re: [313] richie's gear

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Isn't that when you hit play on the DAT? :-P

jim

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Subject: Re: [313] richie's gear


 What is a live set?;]
 
 
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 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:48:30 -
 
 
 as i suspected when i first heard richie use that 'i called u' bit at
 platinum, when he used it at jak this weekend, he played from a
 sampler, or perhaps a cd player - couldn't really tell.  same thing
 with that 'i won't hurt you' vocoder voice.
 
 
 
 
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[313] repeater info and link

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http://www.axemusic.com/links/manufacturers/menu_links/electrix_home.htm

Repeater is the next step in the evolution of loop-based music production.
To the studio musician, it gives a power to arrange audio that was normally
reserved for MIDI. Live musicians can safely sample and integrate loops into
their performance with almost no learning curve. Repeater's algorithms are
tailored to making the looping process simple and intuitive.

NEW! Download the Repeater Manual and take a deeper look into its features
(PDF file requires Acrobat Reader). This is a Public Beta Manual with facts
and figures subject to change in final product.


Repeater Features...

-Loop Point AssistT algorithm takes the tedious pre-production work away
from creating the perfect loop. Loop on the fly!

-High quality pitch shifting and time stretching algorithms gives you
creative control over a loops tempo and pitch. Completely change the loop's
vibe with a few control tweaks.

-Audio Beat Detection automatically syncs recording and playback to any
rhythmic audio source, such as a sample CD, vinyl, or a kick drum.

-Intuitive interface means a short learning curve so you are having fun and
being creative faster.

-Repeater has an 8-minute (40 MB) loop limit. That's larger than any other
hardware, looping device.

-Repeater can have up to 99 loops with 4 tracks per loop.

-Control the level, pan, pitch and position of individual tracks.

-Independently Slip each track position much like you would in a software
multi track application like a ProTools or Cubase.

-The overdub feature lets you build multi-layered loops on each of the 4
tracks.

-Resample lets you bounce 4 tracks to 1 or 2 and re-record effects into the
loop.

-Overdub regeneration lets Repeater act like a very long delay line.

-The undo function lets you experiment, overdub, edit and record without the
fear of destroying your work.

-Reverse play and record adds new creative possibilities to your work.

-Double loop multiplies the recorded loop allowing you to create a bed for
overdubbing a longer phrase.

-The front panel trim controls allow you to easily edit the start and end
points of your loop.


Memory

-Carry your performance in your pocket! Front loading Compact Flash media
gives Repeater virtually unlimited memory expansion. Repeater comes bundled
with a 16 MB Compact Flash card to complement the 8 MB internal memory. 24
MB means 4.5 track minutes.

-The largest single card available (as of this writing) is 256 MB or 49
minutes of uncompressed audio. Need more memory? Just swap cards. (read more
about the Compact Flash media)

-Purchasing the optional Sandisk ImageMate gives Repeater Mac and PC
compatibility (suggested retail $29). The ImageMate sits on your desk and
acts like a removable disk drive, treating the flash memory card like a
diskette. Drag and drop files to your hard drive and back. Record loops on
Repeater and transfer them onto your computer for integration into your
recording software. (read more about the ImageMate)


File Format

-Repeater records uncompressed WAV files giving you high quality audio that
is compatible with other environments.


Remote Control

-Any TRS style 3-button foot controller (like a Digitech FS-300) gives foot
control over play/stop, record and tap tempo.

-Repeater can be operated from a MIDI foot controller for Hands Free use.

-Full MIDI control also means you can sequence your loops to create complete
song structures.

-MIDI keyboard control over the pitch offers real-time manipulation over the
sample. Experiment with melodic variations of the loop.


I/O

-Repeater's digital out means easy integration into the digital studio
environment.

-The High quality Phono Preamp makes it's easy to sample from vinyl.

-Repeater's stereo Insert lets you integrate any effects unit into your
loop. Assign the insert to individual tracks, the output or the input of
Repeater, all from the front panel.

-Repeater can be configured for Individual track outputs.

-Repeater's front panel instrument input and headphone output means, plug
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[313] Re: richie's gear

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my original message didn't come through.

The repeater is the main piece of gear that Richie used to do the mind-warp
versions of spastik and the whole prince 'i won't hurt u' and 'i called u'
bits.

oh yeah, and that super twisted nitzer ebb too.

jim


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[313] OnceAgain: Richie's gear

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Well this message really doesn't want to come over!

All of the really distoreted and twisted effects during richie's performance
were done with the electrix repeater.  I forwarded the info on it earlier.
Sorry if this ends up coming over three times.

jim


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Re: [313] jak

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Hello all,

This was the best party i've been to in years!  I met a fellow 313 member on
the people mover, which made me happy, and the night only got better-
despite everyone bum rushing the doorI left about 6:30 am, and you could
literally still hear the party 5 blocks away!

He threw down some nice funky stuff, and that twisted version of nitzer ebb
was amazing.  Not to mention: I called you- but you weren't there and
Don't worry, I won't hurt you...  The price loop just about made me go
completely ballistic.

Other than Jak:

Kenny Larkin's set was immaculate.  Kit Clayton impressed me way more than
Autechre.  John Acquaviva dropping that track (what is it) which made
the sun come out :-).  Seeing Laurent do 'Acid Eiffel' live.  D. Wynn's set
(except for the damn m.c.)  Regrettably I missed Fred Giannelli's
set.sigh...

Overall a great festival, but I do wonder whether or not it can retain its'
integrity next year.

jim

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 In response tot he inquiry about jak, it was insane! I was itting on the
 speaker resting int the middle of the relentless 6+ hour set and I felt
 something hard hit my hand and I realized the ceiling was crumbling
because
 the bass was so loud.

 The next day people were asking Rich how the party went and he described
it
 as an amazing experience for him.

 -Rachael


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Re: [313] jak

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Not that one, the one with the funky organ line and the female vocal mixed
in from another record.  Though Electric avenue was great to hear :-)

jim
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 Kenny Larkin's set was immaculate.  Kit Clayton impressed me way more than
 Autechre.  John Acquaviva dropping that track (what is it) which made
 the sun come out :-).  Seeing Laurent do 'Acid Eiffel' live.  D. Wynn's
set
 (except for the damn m.c.)  Regrettably I missed Fred Giannelli's
 set.sigh...
 
 the sun came out during that electric avenue remix... but it came out a
 couple other times too...

 still reeling from exhaustion...
 h

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[313] we're off

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Greetings all,

Well We are off to the wonderful land of Detroit.  Hopefully I'll run into
some of you at the party in windsor tonight and or on the festival
grounds

once again,

http://brainwashed.com/coil/images/live/coil-jim-steve.jpg

I'm the funny looking one with the beer :-)

cheers

jim


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[313] afterparties

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Hello all,

Please accept my apologies in advance, as my digest subscription was on the
fritz for a while and I've just been able to re-subscribe.

So,other than Motor, what afterparties are going on over demf weekend (I
hear groans)?  I'll be coming up with a bunch o' people from cleveland.

Is there a 313 mate  grate, or meet and greet?

just in case you can find out what I look like here:

http://brainwashed.com/coil/images/live/coil-jim-steve.jpg

I'm the one with the *very* red eyes and beer.

thanks,

jim


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New Tracks

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Greetings All,

Please forgive my non-participation in the list lately.  The work demon has
given me no peace  :-).

However, I do have two new tracks to make up for my lack of participation.
The first is called Morticia, which is a slow and spooky track along the
lines of Hallucination LXV.  The second I finished quite some time ago, but
haven't announced.  It's called Foundation, and is a bit more dancefloor
oriented.

I would appreciate it if you could take a minute or 13, and check the new
tracks out.

Also, I now have a new website as mp3.com decided to charge a premium price
for slack ass service:

http://www.ampcast.com

or

http://www.assasins.net

thanks!

jim

mea culpa

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greetings again all,

I realized this morning that I uploaded the wrong mix of 'morticia.'  If you
have the patience to check it out again, you will be rewarded with a
smoother mix and a new synth line.  My apologies for posting twice, but I'd
rather have people hear the track in mostly finished form instead of a very
rough mix.

thanks

jim the embarrased

Re: [313] I need to vent for a moment...

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Or just get a macintosh. :-)  

jim (sorry, couldn't resist)

I run a P3 733MHz with 128Mb of ram and have never ever had a recording
failure, but the average problems are clipping and defragmentation.
I use a 20GB partitioned drive and send all audio to the non-OS partition.
You should always up your system virtual memory and never point it to your
OS partition.  This is accomplished through the System Icon under the
Control Panel.
I would also recommend getting all the Windows updates for Win98, and
regularly look for more.  Uncle Microsoft is still pulling it apart and
fixing problems inherent in the DOS layer.
Cheers
todd

Re: [313] re: demf

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Yikes!  I knew it went up, but I didn't know it went up *that* much.  FWIW
the rooms were $150 last year.  Every room I've ever stayed in there, has a
hide-a-bed as well as the number of beds you order.So it is good for
large groups of people

jim

 In case anyone is curious...I called the Athenium and found out that a
room
 with 2 queen beds is $270/night.
 yes i have too much time on my hands today...
 Lara

O/T RE: MAX

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Greetings all,

This is rather ironic as I just downloaded the demo version of max on
saturday...The user tutorial alone is 250 pages long.  You can do some
incredible things with this piece of software, and at least in the beginning
it relatively strightforwars, but alas I think it would take me a year at
least to get the fundamentals downsigh

Looks like my next purchase is gonna be reaktor (and a new mac to run it,
argh!!!)

jim

Repetitive music

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Greetings,

This quote just came over to me from the Coil list.  It was so damn funny, I
just have to forward it.  The original author's name was not included, so I
can't give proper creditanyway here goes:

Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pacman affected us as kids,
we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening
to repetitive music.

http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra

http://www.assasins.net

Re: [313] Repetitive music

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RE: [313] Repetitive musicOh, sorry bout that, I didn't realize it was going
around quite so much.  I didn't mean to be a spammer.

out

jim (spam, spam, sausage,  spam)

http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra

http://www.assasins.net

convextion

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Greetings All,

I recently picked up Derrick May's latest mix up cd, and it featured a
classic track that I was never able to ID from Convextion.  This track
absolutely floors me every time i hear it.  From what I can tell, it looks
like they had 2 releases out of detroit back in 96-97Does anyone have
any more info on these guys?

out.

jim

p.s. FWIW, I have 2 new tracks up on mp3.com.  The first is called formula
(1), and the second is nox-turnal-transmissions.  If you have a chance,
please check them out and let me know what you think.  I could use a little
constructive criticism...the link is below.

http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra

http://www.assasins.net

Re: [313] err...

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Fred- Are you buying it?

I got in a rather lengthy discussion over a few beers this past weekend on
this topic.  Admittedly, I have more than just a slight buzz going at the
time but..After about an hour or so discussing the ford focus commerical
I came to the following conclusion:

1.)Hooray for Juan, the man has skills and talent.  He deserves recognition.
2.)This is a sad day for Detroit Techno.  Whether we like it or not, it's
been co-opted.

I will always love this music, it's a part of my blood. I'm just left with a
lingering question:

What now?

out

jim

http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra

http://www.assasins.net

GENESIS P-ORRIDGE

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 Hello all,

 Not to burst anyone's bubble here, but word has it that his performances
as
 'thee majesty' are well...ass. Caveat emptor.   The throbbing gristle
 and ptv back catalogues are so good it just makes me wish he would give up
 and retire already.

 though he does look quite like the english school marm in drag

 out

 jim

 I know there are a few out there in 313 land, who would be extremely
 interested in this event!

 GENESIS P-ORRIDGE


 http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra

 http://www.assasins.net

Tracks

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Greetings All,

I have a couple of tracks available for streaming at
http://www.mp3.com/zarathustra that I am slating for my first release.  The
track names are hallucination lxv, and sufi twilight.  I'd appreciate it
if people would check them out  let me know what they think.  Please be
forewarned, some of the other tracks up there are decent, but some of them
are certainly less than stellar.

thanks in advance for your input,

jim