Re: (313) hipster techno (fwd)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > your name appeared because i was originally replying to your post about > the changing definition of hipsters. > > guess that got lost > > TP1 and TP2? > > which one is which? Who cares? -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: (313) track ID
313 should probably just change its name to 31337. Thanks... Matt [chad cumby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Not to add fuel or anything here, but I think it's really interesting the way > the words 'hip' and 'hipster' get tossed around on these types of threads, > because it seems completely opposite to the way my mom or the press or whoever > uses it. Usually it seems like it gets pegged to something or someone known > to a small or more exclusive group of people. Here it seems to get applied > to stuff that is suddenly popular or known to a substantially LARGER group > than > the relatively smaller techno crew. Does this seem weirdly backwards to > anyone > else? > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 06:33:28PM -0400, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > > -- Original Message -- > > From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Apparently an artist is a "hipster" if they make good, > > interesting, and new music, that turns a few heads outside of the > > narrow world of this email list. > > > > it depends. if by turning heads you mean being listened to by the > > same kind of people who dig electroclash or glitch house or > > whatever the hipster electronic music to like was last month, then > > youre right. you dont get too many electroclash heads suddenly > > getting hyped up on UR despite their continually high quality > > output. theyre not hipster techno. > > > > >I'll say this, however, Mathew Jonson music is very much in the > > 313 tradition the way he uses synth lines, chords, and a fairly > > stripped down sound - hey, wait a second, maybe all good techno > > is "hipster"! If you don't like "hipster" techno, I bet there's a > > pretty good chance you don't like a lot of techno generally. > > > > dont you see what youre saying? youre saying "matt jonson sounds > > like techno to me, he uses all the same kinds of sounds and > > structures." and i say "youre right, so why are hipsters all up on > > it all of a sudden if they didnt like all the other techno that > > sounds like that that comes out all the time?" > > > > this is how to spot hipster techno. > > > > tom > > > > > > andythepooh.com > > > > > > > > -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Electric as a genre?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >>"Even if you use a microphone > >>then technically you're electric." > > >Heck yeah! Jimi Hendrix was electric!! :D)) > > > No - he was just really f*cking stoned > What about friends then...? Are friends electric? -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) Re: [mw] Monday Night in Chicago
[atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I'm playing a show on Monday night in Chicago at Sonotheque. > Unfortunately, Carlos Souffront will not be able to make it for the > show, but we'll have somebody awesome to replace him. Come check out > the show- Sonotheque is a great spot (with an awesome soundsystem) and > it's free. > "Somebody awesome" turns out to be me, incidentally, although I don't merit the phrase, nor do I feel adequate to fill in for Carlos... :) Hope to see you there... Matt > Here's the info on the Chicago show: > > INTERRUPT MEDIA AND SUBSYSTENCE PRESENT INFLUENCE > JUNE 7 > > atomly [atomiq] > snuggles [strictly jungle chicago] > ken meier [img] > > sonotheque > 1444 w chicago ave > 312.226.7600 > > 9pm - 2am > 21+ > no cover > $2 pbr + grain belt > -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) movement vs brood x
No idea. [eric trout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > > hey...does anyone know if the detroit area gets the broodx 17 year > cicadas? just thought of that...hundreds of thousands of techno fans > dancing with millions and millions of cicadas? haha. this might be the > best movement ever, regardless of the lineup. > > although maybe detroit is far enough north that the ground won't heat up > enough by the festival to make them come out...? > > i dont know... > > eric -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
[Pete Grammenos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Miss kitten made a fan out of me, nothing electoclash about her set when she > played here in nyc w/ mayer a few weeks ago. she played some hard as nails > techno and i would even go as far as to say that she played more diverse and > interesting than mayer. > > As for the hipsters, it's nice to have new people coming out to experience > techno, fad or not, i'm sure there will be a few who will become long term > fans > after experiencing a good night of techno. Some of these supposed *hipsters* > were out till the end, dancing, having a grand old time, isn't that what > it's all about? Yes, it is. Sorry if I came off as one of the haters, because I totally agree with this... Maybe I'm just out-of-sorts because I'm not a huge Miss Kittin fan and I didn't care at all for Mayer's set here in Chicago a few months ago... But generally, I totally agree. If people are out, and they're rocking, that's a Good Thing. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
[Matt Hellige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > why does it make a difference you frigin' knob? > > > > It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility of > new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a fad > or a long-term trend. If 500 people went to see Surgeon last time he > was in town, and 1 go next time, one wants to know whether this > will last (the way rock and roll suddenly got popular and STAYED THAT > WAY) or whether attendance will be back down to 500 or worse next > year. > > So I think it does matter what percentage of new folks at a techno gig > are likely to develop an abiding interest in techno. I'm not willing > to commit to demographic distinctions or hairstyle criticism or > whatever, but I do think the difference between fad and trend is real, > and relevant. > One more note, to forestall possible flaming... I'm absolutely NOT willing to engage in distinctions between musical enjoyment, like "hipsters don't REALLY LIKE techno" or "since you've only been going to techno shows for a month, you don't REALLY GET IT" or "since you won't be here in a year or so, you can't ACTUALLY be enjoying the music". Epistemologically, it's pretty dubious, and it really makes no difference anyway. I'm just interested in actually attendance trends... Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > why does it make a difference you frigin' knob? > It makes a difference because we're talking about the possibility of new people getting into techno, and one wonders whether this is a fad or a long-term trend. If 500 people went to see Surgeon last time he was in town, and 1 go next time, one wants to know whether this will last (the way rock and roll suddenly got popular and STAYED THAT WAY) or whether attendance will be back down to 500 or worse next year. So I think it does matter what percentage of new folks at a techno gig are likely to develop an abiding interest in techno. I'm not willing to commit to demographic distinctions or hairstyle criticism or whatever, but I do think the difference between fad and trend is real, and relevant. Matt > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > > > -- Original Message -- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >so there's now a difference between 'techno fans' and people who > > go to > > >techno parties? good f**kin' grief. > > > > how hard is it to differentiate between people who trend hop > > (hipsters) and people who are long term fans of a music? these > > things happen, especially in electronic music. > > > > tom > > > > > > andythepooh.com > > > > > > > > > > -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
["Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > is 1400 hipsters at a NYC show really that outlandish? kompakt and > that sublow grime nonsense rephlex is pushing now > (plasticman?!?!?!? hahahahaha) is totally hipster these days. > ditto ms kitten. i wonder if you could bring 1400 serious techno > fans to something? > Yeah, it's obviously a matter of taste, but I'd be a lot more impressed (and pleased) if you said 1400 people went to a Brooklyn warehouse to see Oliver Ho and Regis. It doesn't shock me if poppier techno draws a larger crowd. I mean, that's why it's called "pop music," right? Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF)
He meant "just" as in "just recently," not as in "only." Maybe that was the source of the confusion? Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] > no- its a LOT of people for techno in America > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Robert Taylor wrote: > > > Confused by this statement - is 1400 considered to be not many people in > > the US? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:06 PM > > To: Brendan Nelson > > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: (313) techno renaissance (was dutchie DEMF) > > > > > > > > > > The Kompakt/Miss Kittin/Rephlex show in NYC just drew 1400 people to a > > Brooklyn warehouse way off the beaten path. > > # > > Note: > > > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > > represent > > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > > This email > > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > > of the > > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this > > email in > > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank You. > > # > > > > -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) stewart walker
[Matthew Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > It looks like Stewart Walker is leaving the States and is playing at the > Phoenix Landing in Boston in two days. > > Never seen him live, and it's probably my last chance, but LTJ Bukem is > playing the same night. Just how good is Stewart Walker? I've not heard a > whole about his live sets, even though I dig his records. > > (i think i can figure the rsponse anyway but i figured i'd ask) > On a good night his live show is among the best, in my opinion. Very live, very good and a lot of fun. Expect a harder, more dancy sound that you'll find on most of his records. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) (Uncredited) Aril Brikha tracks used in Gameboy Advance game
[Sean Creen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > He's credited on the PS2 version alright. The music on Midnight Club was > great (all licensed from Transmat, Counterbalance and Moving Shadow). Pity > the game's cr*p... Presumably the fact that the game is called "Midnight Club Street Racing" and the fact that CBX 4 and 5 are called "Midnight Club Tracks" is more than coincidence. Anybody know which way the influence went? Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Elevate Special Projects
[Trevor Wilkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Daniel Bell did run a label called Elevate > > the only release i have is Dan's called Subterraneon but I think ther was 1 > or 2 more. Rick Wade's "Night Trackin'" and KB Project, "The Symphony" (I have a regular release of this on Elevate, not the one on Special Projects) are both excellent. The KB Project record got quite a bit of play a few years back, IIRC, and I still have people ask me about it a lot. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) CDs!?
[atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Do you want two CDs? > > Seriously. > "site down for maintenance" OK, seriously, what's to maintain?! -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) new order.
[Kelly M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > As far as the side-projects go, you must agree, Barny's work with Johnny > Marr and Neil Tennant in the first Electronic album produced some > amazing, severely under-rated music. Definitely. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) new order.
[sean deason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > a better question would be: "how much of an influence was Kraftwerk on New > Order?" > I recall an interview where they mention a track of thiers with a working > title "KW1" which stood for "the Kraftwerk One" I think it later became > "Your Smile" or something similar. > personally: No record collection could be complete without the "LowLife" > album. most of the tracks from that album got loads of club play in > Detroit's and LowLife was the soundtrack to many of my drives to and from > the clubs. Yeah, FANTASTIC album. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) new order.
[Maarten Baute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Can I find some information on the net covering the link between new order > and detroit techno? > And what new order albums should I buy as an introduction to the band? > Can't comment on the techno connection, but as far as recommendations, there's no better place to start than the two-CD collection "Substance", which is an absolute classic. Also, the more recent CD "(the best of) New Order" (or something like that) is great, too, if a bit poppier. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question (2nd re-post)
[Peter Leidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > and if an acid house revival means all the lame-asses around here > will start dancing again, then bring it on :)! AMEN. -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"
[The REAL Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > maybe he just kan't spell. :-) "Y Kant Richie Spell"? :P (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=CASS80306131436&sql=Bcge997rjkr0t for the irony-impaired). Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"
[Matthew Mangold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > KMS stands for, "Kevin Master (Reese) Saunderson" Not "Maurice"? Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Richie Hawtin "k"
[spw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I deleted my inbox but I remember someone implying Jeff Mills copied Richie > Hawtin's use of the letter k for his new label. Yes, it was a joKe. :P -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) and now - a cheeky question
[Fabrizio Nahum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > i guess we agree on this :) > > i cant wait for the early-to-midnineties-uk-melodictechno-revival! i think > it will be a little hard to market though ;) > And I can't wait for the "Kanzleramt: the early years" revival! Revival fever! > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > unfortunately- i doubt acid will get huge in the way electro has. but, i > > do recall hearing about someone in nyc trying to start a night called > > hacienda (i think it failed) Or perhaps fortunately... Treasure the magic and the mystery... Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) new axis
[Maarten Baute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > it's with a "k" > > > > http://www.axisrecords.com/store/axis_shop.html > > > > on 6/12/03 1:07 PM, John Osselaer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > That's EleCtrabel, with a 'C' Maarten. > > John ment that the belgian electricity company is written with a "C". The > record from Jeff is indeed with a "K". > Is this Mills stealing a page from the Hawtin book?!? Every dog has his day indeed! WHAT IS TECHNO COMING TO?? Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) busted ?????
[Garrett McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > there was that one summer... '95?... where they were busting everything in > sight. got really ugly for a while.. women molested, guys beat up, > equipment confiscated, broken, or both. summer of love in detroit. > Well, in Chicago they just outlawed everything. Take your pick... :( Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) house recommendations?
[David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Hi listmembers, > > I'm also looking for more house. However, I have some very specific tastes > as far as house, and it seems to be rather hard to find house records that > work for me. > > Basically, I am looking for house that is more synthetic rather than organic > sounding, mostly non-vocal, stuff that can work on the dance floor, and not > too smooth-jazz or disco sounding. Examples of stuff I might play in a house > tempo sets currently tend to include some minimal stuff, sometimes thx (Dale > Lawrence stuff) some of the Perlon and Akufen stuff, an old dbx track here or > there, certain UR house tempo tracks, some synthy stuff like the Heiko Laux > "Walkout" ep I got last year, sometimes a Kevin Saunderson track from Faces > and Phases, sometimes some electro-type stuff that is at the right tempo, and > some tribal house usually that has a synthetic edge. Anybody got any ideas? > Stuff like John Acquviva plays is often cool, or micro-house that isn't too > abstract, to deeper stuff but with real sick analog synthesizer type things > and not too downtempo. Artists and eps, and not just labels please! > Do you like Hakan Lidbo? I think you might... What about Steve Bug? Since you want specific records, the first one that occurs to me is Egoexpress, "Here Comes the Night." Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) house recommendations?
["::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I'm looking for more house music. the stuff I'm into right now is some of > the less tribal sounding moodyman and theo parrish, herbert, pepe bradock, > and some of the paperclip people stuff (house?) etc. > > I know some of you are like walking, talking discographies, so if you could, > lend me your thoughts on good house music. > Other labels you should check out include Moods and Grooves, Elevate, Trackmode and Deep4life. Those are only the first few that occur to me, so I'm sure I'm forgetting some really obvious ones... Maybe you'd also dig some of the Panhandle stuff, and maybe listen to some things on Classic? Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) UNSPECIFIED ENEMIES
[David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > ryan burns wrote: > > > I'm looking for a track called > > > > -Unspecified Enemies Multi Original Tracking Unit > > > > dj bone played it on his first mix cd a while back. i remember talk > > about this record around a year ago. > > does anyone know where i can get oneor any info about it > > If you can find the Subject Detroit Vol.2 12" double pack, its on there. I'd definitely try to hunt down the original 12" though, if I were you. It's worth it. Mine's not for sale... ;) Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Rumors about demf
Don't forget Jeff Mills live PA/DJ set for 6 hours EACH NIGHT on the main stage [Jim Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > let's see the rumors flying around right now: > > speedy j, kooky scientist, luomo, vladislav delay live > > john acquaviva, richie hawtin, luciano, dandyjack, sammy dee and zip > > speedy j, kooky scientist, john acquaviva, richie hawtin in one room > sammy dee, luciano, zip and dandyjack in the other > > 5th floor of ponchartrain completely reserved for richie afterparty with > rich, speedy j, sammy dee and zip > > speedy j, kooky scientist, richie hawtin and john acquaviva on the pool deck > of the ponchartrain. > > pole live in the underground > speedy j live in the underground > > which ones are true? > > i know > > do you? -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) chicago this weekend
I believe Stewart Walker is playing at the Empty Bottle on the 6th. Matt [Lester Kenyatta Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > ANYTHING GOING ON IN CHICAGO THIS WEEKEND? > > (as a sidenote, someone sent me information about oakland or rather > information about the LACK of events in oakland a few weeks back...i meant > to thank them but deleted the message) > > > peace > lks > > -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Chicago313
[atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > [Cyborg K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > I am moving from Kalamazoo to Chicago in the very near future. > > > > I'd like to make contact with any head that live in Chicago, and also keep > > up to date on the various events that are going on, not just club nights but > > loft parties or small art-oriented events and the like. > > It's not as up-to-date as it used to be, but it's still a good list: > > http://immute.net/list/ > It'd be a lot more up to date if I had some help! (hint, hint...) :) Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Surgeon - How good is he?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'm thinking of going to hear Surgeon DJ this w/e & was wondering what > peoples general opinion of him is. > > Has he got the skills? I'm seem to remember his style is what my mates call > 'ARMS' (i.e quite hard!) > He's an excellent DJ. He does tend to play hard, but he's adventurous and at times throws in surprises and older classics (I have a fond memory of hearing him play LFO's "We're back" in the middle of a tricky hard techno set)... Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) label comp CDs
Of course, there's all the Basic Channel-related label comps. My personal favorite is probably the Main Street comp, but they're all great. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) jamie myerson
[Alex Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > yeah i read that but it doesnt really tell me if his tunes are good or if > they are complete rubbish :) > Mostly bad, IMO, but there was a catchy remix of "Rescue Me", which is probably the one you're talking about. Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Bent Crayon
[Mxyzptlk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Most of the time I phone John when I want to order from him...it seems like > website databases are never up to speed, so I find that it's best to give a > call. I don't think John would ship COD unless he knew you awfully well. > > jef > And knew for sure that you really wanted it. I'm not sure about the website ordering, as I always called or emailed. But I can tell you this: bentcrayon is the best there is! Matt -- Matt Hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: (313) Busted. -- control 4
no, they couldn't make the charges stick. they got him for "accident in paradise" instead... m [Simon Walley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > The cover of "The Harlequin, The Robot and The Ballet Dancer"? :) > > >From: "The Deliverator" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: (313) Busted. -- control 4 > > > >busted for what? > > > >jim > >- Original Message - > >From: "MikeD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: (313) Busted. -- control 4 > > > > > sven vath was amazing, but the detroit PD wasn't having it. > > || [CiM] > || [EMAIL PROTECTED] > || http://www.warmdata.net/ > > > > _________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- matt hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] Oliver Ho
go! his dj sets generally live up to his production in terms of style, skill, AND range. he's awesome. m ["Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > Anyone have anything to say about Oliver Ho, positive or negative ? I love > his production but have not heard him spin and he's playing tonight at the > new location for tronic treatment in NYC. > > It's @ Baktun for all you NYC 313'ers > > -Pete > -- matt hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] new mix online
i just put a new sixty-minute mix on my web site, including tracks by herbert, christian morgenstern, antonelli electr., unai, home and garden, mr. g., larry heard, etc. technically speaking, it's probably not my best set ever, but if you like slower, synthier techno and house, i think you'll dig it... it can be had from http://matt.immute.net/music/ (it's the last one in the list) or point your mp3 player directly at: http://matt.immute.net/sets/matt_hellige_-_8.13.2001.mp3 all feedback is, of course, very welcome... m -- matt hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Chicago events
[M Elliot-Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Anyone going to these Chicago events? > > 8.11.2001 > monolake, vladislav delay, dettinger, kit clayton, mira calix, sutekh @ > fifth floor > an incredible lineup of deeper, dubbier techno and idm. choice of venue is > unexpected, but this should be a hell of a night! > 21+ > > 8.13.2001 > derrick carter @ danny's > free, 21+ > > > 8.31.2001 > herbert @ smartbar > 21+ yes. ;) m -- matt hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] chicago events list
this is mostly for the chicago people on the list, or people close enough to care about things happening in chicago. i know this is the 313 list and not the 312 list and blah blah blah, but in light of the recent discussion regarding "a means to an end", i figure maybe there are enough interested people to make this posting worth it... lately, i've been frustrated by the lack of any kind of web page listing techno-house-whatever-related events in and around chicago. so i put one together myself. without going into a long justification or explanation about what it is or what it's for or how i'm going to operate it (there's some of that on the page itself, for those interested), if you have an interest in such a thing, please check it out. the url is: http://immute.net/list i'll add those things that i hear about and care about, but submissions are welcome and appreciated. there's an easy form to fill out... also please send me any other feedback, positive or negative... m -- matt hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] off topic DEMF comment.
[Giles Dickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > And I'm speaking as someone who's been in the strategic marketing > business for almost 7 years, why create such a negative stir about an > event that makes its profit from people's enjoyment? If they are a > "promotion" or "event management" firm, how could they be so ( delete > expletive here ) naive as to send out these kind of negative concepts > into the minds of the public a week before their precious show? Which, > incidentally is so valuable to them that they are announcing the > dismissal of their creative director a week before the show? > > I have one answer and I've seen it before : > > Big ego's and short sightedness. > there another answer, and it's probably an even more siniter one: they're going after a target audience that they know will not only not care about the carl situation, but will never even hear about it. given the number and placement of advertisements for this year's festival, i think it's safe to say that they have their sights set on a much bigger fish than the techno scene, or even the serious dance music/electronic music community as a whole. i can pretty much guarantee that the vast majority of people who hear about this on mtv, fox or (for chicago people) q101, b96 and gci, have never heard of carl craig and will never know how things went down between the organizers. how much do you know about the beginnings of and the relationships between the people who organized lollapalooza, for example? i'm not blaming any individuals for this, and i don't know much about the way the festival was/is/will be run... but i can pretty much guarantee that to whatever extent large corporate interests (read: ford and others) have an interest this, that is the degree to which they will seek to appeal to the largest and richest possible audience, even to the direct disenfranchisement of the actual music community. m -- matt hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
paging dave siska
dave you out there? anybody have a current email address for him? i thought i had the most recent one, but my mail is bouncing... thanks, and sorry for the wasted bandwidth... m -- matt hellige [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] Mistress Barbra
["M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Where did you find this really erroneous piece of information? dunno about the explanation, but she does spell it with two (four?) s's... check any of her releases, etc... m > > -Original Message- > > >just a side note, i found out it's spelled misStress barbra.as in miss > >stress, kinda cool.. > > -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] G Flame amd Mr. G
i had heard that all the g flame and mr. g stuff was colin's as well, but i've recently heard otherwise. if you look at the fine print on the releases (i'm not at home so i can't remember specifically which ones) you'll see things like: "written and produced by g flame, engineered by mr. g" (or vice versa, can't remember which is which), which is in line with what i've most recently heard, that colin produced most of the tracks, but cisco was still doing the engineering. i've also heard that some of the more recent 12's (the first alpha release in particular) are w+p by cisco as well... i can't remember now what the fine print said on that one. in any case the whole thing is a bit confusing... matt [Jason Birchmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > G Flame and Mr. G is the "house" music project of The Advent, > > Colin McBean, and > > Cisco (sp?). One is "G Flame" and the other is "Mr. G", but I'm > > not sure which. > > > According to a press release I recieved from Mike Grant at Moods and > Grooves, G Flame and Mr. G is Colin McBean's solo work. I always heard that > G Flame and Mr. G was a duo -- as you wrote -- but this stated otherwise. > Have I totally been misled? If anyone knows for sure, the info would be > much appreciated. > > Here's that press release: > > G Flame and Mr G > -- > G Flame and Mr G is really one man: Colin McBean. Colin McBean formerly > recorded with Cisco Ferreira under the tile The Advent producing intense and > relentless techno. > > Colin originally moved to London from Derby to study Fashion Design and has > worked with the likes of Zandra Rhodes, Issey Miyake and Michiko. In 1989 > through Cisco he met Keith from Bang The Party, they then formed the DJ trio > KCC, where they used to play as residents at the Confusion parties. Colin > and Cisco started working together in 1990 on an engineering job for Jay > Denhams Fade To Black. Their first release, "Bio Rhythms 2" was on Network, > they also produced Salt Tanks ST1 and ST2 on Internal. Signing to Internal > Records in 1994 the pair released a series of critically acclaimed albums > and eventually started their own label Kombination Research. > > McBean ended the partnership in 1999 citing his reluctance to continue > touring. His work as G Flame and Mr G bridges the gap between house and > techno with murky disco basslines and the sharp clean high end percussion of > techno at the pace of house. The tracks roll with an undeniable groove > embellished by muted samples and synth notes. G Flame and Mr G explore the > funk available at lower velocities. > --- > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] Theo Parrish last night
[Matt MacQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > "Took me all the way back way back way back way back" yep... it was awesome... ;) matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] TM021, TM022
["Batory, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > TM022 - Larry Heard - Missing You (Limited Ed. 12") <-- how "limited" is > > this? (a) larry's jazz cafe mix (b) instrumental haven't heard the double pack, so i'm not sure how these mixes compare to the original. the a-side is, in particular, really awesome. not sure how limited it is. matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] loops/lock grooves
[rol leider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > I've wondered about this myself. The outer perimeter of a record is much > greater than the inner, yet both hold the same amount of information. Does > that mean the quality of the sound reproduction is better on the outer > grooves? yes. this is one of several reasons why records are never cut to very near the spindle. to a discerning listener, there is a considerable loss in quality toward the end of even a normal lp. matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] lyrics question and artist I.D.
[-chad sponholz- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > i was just thinking of midsummer day by sunday brunch (sk034 on svek... > jasper dahlback and s. ahrenberg. what does the s. stand for?) s. stands for sebastian... he is better known as "seba" when he records atmospheric drumnbass for the good looking labels (glr, 720, etc...), and he's one of the best and most consistent artists in that camp. before doing jungle, he recorded some deep house as peanut planet along with a partner (lo-tek, dunno his real name) who also made the transition to dnb. seba and lo-tek together did two remixes for svek awhile back, one of ralph lundsten's "diskophrenia"... not sure what the other was. there was a 10" last year on svek called "pulse fiction" by forme that was also, i'm told, by him... sounds plausible to me... enjoy! matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
mixes online
i've got a couple of mixes on my webpage, for those who are into that kind of thing... one new, one older. http://matt.immute.net/sntx enjoy! matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] chicago?
[Christos Michalakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Does anyone know of any good record stores in Chicago? Thanks in advance. > gramaphone at around 2700 n. clark (just south of diversey) is the place to go in chicago. also worth checking out are hot jams at around 4800 s. pulaski (next to the mr. submarine) and, if you're really feeling ravey, supreme at around 1500 n. milwaukee. matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] Detroit Techno & Art
[jes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > > Mark Rothko. Minimal painter, do a Google search on his name and > > you'll find a wealth of material. I know that Richie Hawtin has > > name-dropped > > him and I believe Mills has too. > > anish kapoor does amazing compositions and sculpture. rich named him as > a strong influence on consumed. > yep. but rothko... he da man! i wish i knew more about the visual arts, but i'm just too busy/lazy to find out... i just know that i don't feel particularly emotionally affected by that many paintings, but some of rothko's colorfields really get me! matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://matt.immute.net
Re: [313] The Advent
[Todd Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > If you thought the Kombination > stuff was starting to all sound alike you'll be pleasantly surprised by this > twist in the Advent signature sound. agreed. it's a great album. also check out the new g flame record on alpha, which i'm told is actually by cisco, and it shows. sounds a bit more like the advent than the other g flame and mr. g stuff, but it's not quite as slammin and i think it quite nicely bridges the gap between cisco's and colin's recent output. matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konfused.net/~matt
Re: [313] Richie Rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > In a message dated 5/06/00 9:47:56 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > DK remix on drumcode 20. Only thing in the whole set that even made me > > Was this a track that starts out tribal-ish house and progesses into a long > lush ambient-ish synth line midway and goes for 10 min +? I'm looking for one > track in particular that fits that description. He played it late into his > set when he got into the deep house mode. That was a highlight on the night > he played here. > definitely not the same track, although i'm afraid i can't help you... sorry... matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konfused.net/~matt
Re: [313] DEMF suggestions for next year
whoops. i meant this to be private... sorry... matt [matt hellige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > are you being sarcastic here? if so, i really don't feel that i > deserve it... > > matt > > [rios delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > That's great. Thanks for the update. > > > > > > > > --- matt hellige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > paul johnson has played/produced more than his share > > > of booty house, > > > i promise... it hasn't really been his style lately, > > > but he's still > > > no stranger to the stuff, that's for sure... > > > > > > matt > > > > > > [rios delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > > > He plays Garage and house, why?? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- joe beuckman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >Paul Johnson > > > > > > > > > > >NO BOOTY!!!A little DJFunk never hurt > > nobody though:) > > > > > > > > > > so i guess YOU'll be picking paul's records for > > > him? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail > > > at > > > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with > > > Yahoo! Messenger. > > > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > > matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://www.konfused.net/~matt > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > -- > matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.konfused.net/~matt > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konfused.net/~matt
Re: [313] DEMF suggestions for next year
are you being sarcastic here? if so, i really don't feel that i deserve it... matt [rios delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > That's great. Thanks for the update. > > > > --- matt hellige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > paul johnson has played/produced more than his share > > of booty house, > > i promise... it hasn't really been his style lately, > > but he's still > > no stranger to the stuff, that's for sure... > > > > matt > > > > [rios delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > > He plays Garage and house, why?? > > > > > > > > > --- joe beuckman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Paul Johnson > > > > > > > > >NO BOOTY!!!A little DJFunk never hurt > nobody though:) > > > > > > > > so i guess YOU'll be picking paul's records for > > him? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail > > at > > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Send instant messages & get email alerts with > > Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.konfused.net/~matt > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konfused.net/~matt
Re: [313] DEMF suggestions for next year
paul johnson has played/produced more than his share of booty house, i promise... it hasn't really been his style lately, but he's still no stranger to the stuff, that's for sure... matt [rios delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > He plays Garage and house, why?? > > > --- joe beuckman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Paul Johnson > > > > >NO BOOTY!!! > > > > so i guess YOU'll be picking paul's records for him? > > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konfused.net/~matt
Re: [313] soulsaver
"love and happiness" by al green i believe... matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >That's got to be 'Soulsaver' by Gerald 'The Deacon' Mitchell, from the > >Underground Resistance 'Interstellar Fugitives' album... > > what's the sample behind soulsaver - heard an old soul tune > the other day and it's like soulsaver has pitched the sample > from it up to 45rpm [not the vocal but the 'twangy' noise] > > cheers > > simon > > > > ----- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.konfused.net/~matt
Re: (313) belt driven decks,no efxs,909? yes please
hey ken will you marry me man? ["Hugh G. Blaze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Take another hit off the bong. > -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/~hellige
Re: (313) basic channel on planet E
[Fabrice Lig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sorry Ryan, > I agree that its not a classic record but i don't think is > a real shit. I play it yet and 2 or 3 tracks of the 2x12 > are good on the dancefloor. > Don't be too hard about it :) > Bye ! i think there's a misunderstanding here... the expression "the shit" means something is really awesome... it's not a criticism at all... :) and yeah i agree about the rachmad double pack. not a classic, but definitely really good. matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/~hellige
Re: (313)Three tables???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I am curious, when Mills, Rush or any other techno big wig throws down, > is three the lucky number. Especially with the option of live programing? > Is this how it's done, or possibly four tables, but that just seems > superfluous when some DJs use only two for doubles and creating beat > structures with doubles! Any advise or info? I heard of a show-down in > CHI-town thats happening or happened with Rush and another UK personality > and it stated that there is and 8 hour 4 table grudge match! Will each of > them have it a 4 a piece or 2 on 2 simultaneously? Does anyone know the > show of which I am speaking, did anyone attend and witness this battle > between two titans? > the party you're talking about is on april 1 in chicago, and i can't remember what it's called... the uk personality is steve bicknell. i'm curious what the "8 hour 4 table grudge match" thing meant also... i can't really see rush and bicknell doing an 8 hour 2-by-4, so maybe it's 4 hours each on 4 tables? or maybe it's just promoter b.s. and doesn't mean anything... incidentally, also playing at the same party are dnb giants andy c, ed rush and optical, which is a rare treat indeed, and several big house guys as well (boris dlugosch and several others, i think). should be quite a party, especially in chicago... hehe... matt -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/~hellige
Re: (313) Mike Ink Kriesel 45 or 15
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Just curious if anyone has real audio of either of these records. > I am trying to figure out which one has the track I want. > It can be found on Terry Mullen New school fussion after "Work That Body" > Someone had pointed me in the right direction before. > > Thanks in advance i believe 45 is the one you're after. it's definitely on new school fusion. no real audio, though... sorry... m -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/~hellige
Re: (313) boo williams!!
as long as we're slightly non-313 anyhow, i'd suggest checking out his new record on night-life collective, called "big fat woman 2000". it's really good! also, does anybody else out there like johnny fiasco's "clicktrax vol. 1" on afterhours as much as i do? matt [Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > > [... long review snipped ...] > -- matt hellige - syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uiuc.edu/~hellige
