Re: FW: (313) Chicago (OT)
sorry i'm late on this response tom. what you're saying is correct. nothing we're talking about is a direct cause and effect, nor is there an exclusive factor that makes a musical movement settle down into an institutionalized rut. i guess daytime city sanctioned events are more of a symptom of this homogenization, not the cause. but it still disappoints me to some extent. On Fri, 13 May 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] my concern is with the fact that in most every case i can think of, musical experimentatin and adventure loses it's thrust once it becomes a daytime soire. think about jazz. once it was late night outlaw music. now it's homoginzed hmm. i see your point, but im not sure that the cause and effect relationship youre talking about exists. can you prove that it went that way, and not that jazz music started turning crap before it received wider acceptance? i mean in reality, you can play the nastiest most underground stuff during the day and people just arent going to be able to get into it at all. if you play watered down homogenized sh*te, people can get into it no matter when you play it. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Chicago (OT)
i'm not saying its a bad thing. i'm just saying i'm not letting 'the man' off the hook for killing nightlife and replacing it with daytime recreation. it institutionalizes it, which in turn stunts growth. On Wed, 11 May 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as for stuff like summer dance, i'm sure it's a great time, but it's also another step in the neutering of dance music. what once went down in crazy all night clubs now has to happen in the sunlight. they used to play house music on the radio in chicago during lunch hour. i dont see why this is a bad thing. getting people to hear the music is a good thing! tom andythepooh.com
Re: FW: (313) Chicago (OT)
my concern is not whether or not you take drugs (or are now just too old to stay out all night) my concern is with the fact that in most every case i can think of, musical experimentatin and adventure loses it's thrust once it becomes a daytime soire. think about jazz. once it was late night outlaw music. now it's homoginzed On Thu, 12 May 2005, Svagr, Jodie wrote: Yeah... Just because some people have only experienced dance music in an all nighter drug fest, does not mean that that is the ONLY true way to go!! I've been living the music for a very long time, including during outdoor events during the day... the music is a part of my ENTIRE existance, NOT just the evenings. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2005 00:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Chicago (OT) -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as for stuff like summer dance, i'm sure it's a great time, but it's also another step in the neutering of dance music. what once went down in crazy all night clubs now has to happen in the sunlight. they used to play house music on the radio in chicago during lunch hour. i dont see why this is a bad thing. getting people to hear the music is a good thing! tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Chicago (OT)
but in classic daley style- he illegally bulldozed the airport, then gave the contract to his croonies to build... a park. yeah- he's shiesty, but the guy bulldozes an airport the only serviced a few rich dudes and is replacing it with a park. hard to get angry. as for stuff like summer dance, i'm sure it's a great time, but it's also another step in the neutering of dance music. what once went down in crazy all night clubs now has to happen in the sunlight. On Tue, 10 May 2005, matt kane's brain wrote: At 09:35 AM 5/10/2005, Svagr, Jodie wrote: The Moyor of chicago is still Mayor Daley, but the outlook for the electronic music industry is much brighter. Meanwhile, he has been bulldozing airports and selling off towed cars as scrap metal to his buddies, who then sell the cars at market value. What a swell guy! -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) Chicago SummerDance Schedule
that's daley's father. the two of them have been running the city forever. On Tue, 10 May 2005, matt kane's brain wrote: At 09:47 AM 5/10/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: google the phrase [police Miami Model] for very interesting information on recent police tactics in the US against protesters. I have personally been at a peaceful demonstration and seen this first hand... http://www.democracynow.org/static/miamimodel.shtml Mayor Daley shows up again! Seeing Timoney up close and personal evokes this image of Mayor Daley at the '68 Democratic Convention ordering his men to shoot protesters on sight. He is that kind of guy. Yikes! -- /* Halley */ (Halley's comment.) matt kane's brain podcast | http://www.hydrogenproject.com | netradio | on-the-air [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
(313) [SoCal-Techno] Berlin Love Parade cancelled.......AGAIN (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:01:27 -0700 From: Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SoCal-Techno] Berlin Love Parade cancelled...AGAIN Organizers pull plug on Berlin's Love Parade dance party Thu Apr 21,10:44 AM ET Entertainment - AFP BERLIN (AFP) - Berlin's giant Love Parade techno music dance party has been called off for the second year running, but organizers said they were hoping to revive it in time for the 2006 soccer World Cup. After reaching a peak in 1999 with 1.5 million ravers grooving through the streets of the German capital, the event gradually ran out of steam and its management said it was unable to find enough sponsors to fund the July event. Sabine Bremermann of the Love Parade Ltd said plans for the street party were now being revamped with the aim of winning fresh backing to stage it in the summer of 2006. We will do everything we can, in cooperation with the city-state of Berlin, industry and the media, to find a way to make a comeback the year of the World Cup in Germany, she said. Germany is hosting the World Cup from June 9 to July 9 next year. South Korean electronics giant Samsung recently cancelled as a sponsor and the Berlin daily Tagesspiegel reported that Germany's T-Mobile had also pulled out. The Love Parade blamed Berlin's ailing economy for the sponsors' flight but officials from the city-state government said the organizers had failed to change with the times. After starting small in West Berlin in 1989 the summer before the Berlin Wall fell, the party grew with the craze in electronic music and helped make Berlin the techno capital of the world. Spin-offs were launched in Switzerland, Israel, Mexico and the United States but Berlin remained the mecca for the world's ravers. While the organizers used to leave Berlin to pick up the costs of the parade by claiming the event was a political demonstration, a court ruled in 2001 that it was a commercial venture and liable for the expenses. The cancellation comes just days after the legendary dance club Tresor shut its doors after 13 years as a fixture of Berlin nightlife. Ruth Nakada-Agency Director Underground Sound Artist Mgmt PR Group www.ugsoundmgmt.com 310-770-5306 phone 310-861-9061 fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/rFPplB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCal-Techno/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: (313) Shake, Titonton, and HS hit Chicago
Dunno bout chi town promoters, but if they don't consider shake a big name, they haven't done their homework. Dude's huge. Just ask germany :). psssh, I'm big in Germany =P Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems
Re: (313) ferrispark
Ferris Park is way nice on the house tip. Best track is Dump Days It's also the most popular, licensed by Gigolo and all. It was called the White Buffalo EP (oh that Hell) Actually- the flip only appears on the Gigolopressing and it's a cool acidy industrial tinged cut. recommended On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, thomas ironside ainslie wrote: i picked up a cd compilation of Ferrispark Records when i was home in michigan over the christmas break. i didn't really get into it too much at first, and was kinda pissed at myself for buying it without having a listen, but now it's really starting to grow on me. smooth midtempo housey goods. i don't really know why, but it gives me that same kind of feeling that a lot of the Definitive releases did in the mid- to late 90's. anyone out there into this label? any essential releases i should be aware of? thanks t -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.synthetictom.com
Re: (313) iPod DJ
dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
Re: (313) iPod DJ
wait, i think i've seen this before. was it version 1 of the advent?? hahahahahaha =) On Apr 18, 2005, at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dj's who use laptops and still engage the crowd... hawtin francois k kevin saunderson chris liebing djs who use vinyl and stare at their shoes... herbert mark farina carl craig jeff mills (kidding!) it takes all kinds On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Yes, that's right. I think more people end up watching a DJ on laptop than one on decks but I am not knocking the technology per se, I just citing a 'limitation' I have noticed, if you can call it that. The DJs on laptop I have observed never look up at the crowd, they're affixed to the screen, you could be watching them on TV, or in their bedroom practising on webcam, whatever! It changes the psychology of the situation. i think the dj should be a part of the party, same as the dancers etc. the scenario described by cyclone et al suggests that most djs behind the screen are less a part of the party (-vibe) than many djs behind decks. this does not necessarily mean that one has to make the clown.. just be *present*. and for sure it doesn't mean that we idolize the dj in rock star way already if we demand her *presence*. armin
Re: (313) fuse-in detroit - please help calm me down, or something...
maybe i should've just decided to go to mutek this year instead smartest thing you've said. monikat
Re: (313) It's all gone Pete Tong
awful awful awful awful not even funny awful. just awful. except for the cocaine skunk. he's cool. On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, lisa wrote: What's up with this? Anyone seen it? http://www.giantstep.net/releases/719 Lisa
Re: (313) has anyone seen this?
the irony is- i was asked to turn it down about 2 minutes after i sent that e-mail. you'd think working at a music magazine... On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *flicks the v's to anyone who can listen to music at work* listening to: Autolux- Future Perfect, at work, REALLY LOUD *fires up flamethrower, wonders if it will reach to l.a* hmm, my mate is like you, he has some sort of club style set up in his office, with these JBL speakers. it's ridiculous. sounds good though. I'm jealous. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Re: Kraftwerk tickets (fwd)
i also saw them last year. that's probably why the lack of song choice is so prevelant in my thinking. i'm certain it will be exactly the same show (or really friggin close) but we'll see. i think their label might cough up smee tickets after all. On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frankly, i'd be a lot more excited to go see them if there was even the slightest chance of them playing something besides the obvious hits Yussell my friend. Some worldly advice. F**KING THINK ON LAD. and get yourself down to that kraftwerk gig. if you're disappointed, I'll give you the money for the ticket myself. I was thinking a bit like you last year, but sheeet, they were hot. just seeing them standing there doing nothing blew my head off. straight up, give it a whirl. alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) iPod DJ - Prototype Ipod Numark mixer
official Numark response to my inquiry below. this thing is obviously just in the concept phase. We do not comment on any products that have not been officially released by any of our companies. All products that have been officially released by our companies can be found on our respective company web-sites. No one person or company has permission to print any renderings, concepts or trademarks of our products that are not officially represented on our official company web-sites. This person does not have our permission to place this image on his web-site. We do not have any official public information about this product, as it has not officially been launched by our companies (please see the paragraph above). When we do decide to officially announce and launch a product, corporate press releases, sales kits and promotional material will be sent to everyone. On Fri, 15 Apr 2005, Placid wrote: http://createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=444Itemid=44 fairly on topic i should say. p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh gawd, here we go: P**s off!!! No one (well not many people) dances more than I do in a club. And I've been doing it for MANY years. Call me wrong headed (and if you remember the last time we had this discussion even I concluded I'm wrong headed about PC vs. vinyl and am working on over coming my problems) if you like but don't patronise me like you're some club master and I'm some jerk-johhny-come-lately who doesn't know any better than to stare in fascination at the DJ ok, ok. for a start, no one was patronising anyone - I just dont get the watching the dj thing at all. cripes, it wasn't that long ago you couldnt even see the dj on the dancefloor, they'd be hidden away somewhere. and I wasn't referring to you either, I dont remember seeing you in the discussion, infact I was referring to cyclones comment, which was something like HEARING sasha dj, is like WATCHING a zombie and I don't remember me calling you out for being a jonny come lately francis. do you? and you should know better than to take anything that comes out of my mouth with anything other than a pinch of salt. I just dont get it at all. never have. anyway, I aint in the mood for this s**t... some bird in a car knocked me off my bike last night and my arse is killing me, I cant sit down. I'll keep my mouth shut. alex oh, and p.s. I AM THE CLUB MASTER. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Festival goes for $5 fee
considering that it has gotten down to the public issue of the city decide how to monitarily manage a public space then the business dealing around the festival are open to public debate. if the article was simply 'movement doesn't pay people' or somthing equally sensationalistic, i would agree. but it's a matter of public policy now, so total disclosure time. On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: I can't believe how negative the press is in Detroit! The writers are very respectable and know their stuff more than elsewhere - it's the tone that surprises me. I see the writers' dilemma - but by exposing all the business they're ultimately scaring off any investment. http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/fest13e_20050413.htm
Re: (313) has anyone seen this?
*flicks the v's to anyone who can listen to music at work* listening to: Autolux- Future Perfect, at work, REALLY LOUD eating: digesting some scary mcdonalds breakfast to fight a hangover weather: sunsmog (duh!) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Re: Kraftwerk tickets (fwd)
here's a conversation ive been having with LA 313'er about why I've decided not to buy Kraftwerk tickets. I thought it would actually make an interesting 313 conversation. -- frankly, i'd be a lot more excited to go see them if there was even the slightest chance of them playing something besides the obvious hits. why not play europe endless or antenna? so many good songs that no one even seems to think about. -- In addition, I'd like to as something proactive... I used to have a really cool live recording of Autobahn from 1978 or so. I found it back in the glory days of Napster, but it's since disappeared off my harddrive. Thing is- it had it' s own really unique sound, not at all like the recorded version. Can anyone recommend some older Kraftwerk live recordings that's aren't compltely perfect digital recreations of their album tracks?
Re: (313) Festival goes for $5 fee
look who's mill's number one fan all of a suddden. ;) On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, atomly wrote: [Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]] And as for Kevin Saunderson, any reservations I have about the style of the sets he's played that I've heard recently have to be set aside. Bit of a tangent, but I'm curious about this-- he rocked it in Miami and Jeff Mills is no cakewalk to follow. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Festival goes for $5 fee
atom likes fluffy trance On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, /0 wrote: really? the last few times I saw him in detroit (saunderson) he was terrible. almost trancey. too fluffy for my tastes. .Joe - Original Message - From: atomly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: Re: (313) Festival goes for $5 fee [Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]] And as for Kevin Saunderson, any reservations I have about the style of the sets he's played that I've heard recently have to be set aside. Bit of a tangent, but I'm curious about this-- he rocked it in Miami and Jeff Mills is no cakewalk to follow. -- : : atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
RE: (313) Now Playing
listening to: someone is playing some beats across the offce. can't quiet tell what they are. eating: had a crappy LA bagel on the way to work. weather: can see the endless filthy sun-smog from my brand new 17th floor windowside desk thinking about: jumping
Re: AW: (313) Mike Huckaby
huck is one of detroit best kept secrets. he's unfortunately secret because it's impossible to adequately express his skills to those outside of detroit who never get to hear him dj and only have his small discography to go on. i will always remember huck for open set with joe claussell a few years back. he was absolutely beating it! when clausell walked inot the both i grabbed the promoter and offered to break clausell's arm so huck could keep playing. half the crowd left as soon as huck was finished and in the words of one reveller 'i can go home now. huck gave me what i needed tonight' On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: great man from the D !!! very deep musical knowledge and pretty often the man in the background :) released on Rick Wade's 'Harmonie Park' and runs also his own label Deep Transportation', which released 01 and 02 already. btw: DT 02 is the only known picture 12 with a KDJ track on it ... great stuff not only for collectors!!! ... more info here: http://www.discogs.com/release/298778 you still should get it at some shops and I hardly suggest to get one of these, if you addicted to quality deep house from detroit recently also re-released my personal favourite 'Jazz Republic' on french label 'Funky Chocolate' irie dUb Never heard this fella - isn't he from Detroit? What's he like? # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside...
I used to DJ overnights on WDBM East Lansing. I major segment o my audience was guys working the overnight shift at the GM plant. I would often get calls from those guys complimenting my musical selection- everything from Kraftwerk and Speedy j to Blonde Redhead and Mudhoney. On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, theREALmxyzptlk wrote: Anton Banks (313) wrote: I work in a factory and often play music at my desk. I've sent people off to looking for the loose fan belt on several occasions... I worked for 29 years on an assembly line at GM (I just had a job change last December). Where I worked, you either played what some formatter had mistaken for classic rock (mostly), the local RB station (WJLB) or one of those putrid 'oldies' stations unless you wanted to experience alienation at work in ways other than the already present Marxist sense of it. Safety rules (anal supervisors looking for brownie points) said 'no headphones', so it was a case of being trapped with the worst music on the radio when I was in high school, over and over...like another level of Dante's Inferno. In my new job I can plug my Grado SR60s into my tower, slap in a cdr and go to town. People passing by my cubicle still give me weird looks, but they can't drown me out with Bob Seeger. jeff
Re: (313) pre-hip-hop mixes
that would be cool if you could put it up. i couldn't find it on p2p and i doubt it's readily avaiable at my local record store. On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.discogs.com/release/183348 it's a live tape of Bambaataa cutting up and juggling breaks from '83. It's rough as f*ck in terms of both production (typical cruddy Paul Winley pressing) and skills, but it has mad energy and can lay a pretty strong claim to being the blueprint for b-boy mixtapes. The actual tracklisting is the stuff of legend. A lot of the breaks have now been dug up and identified (e.g. Jackson Sisters), but for ages a lot of people were scratching their heads about this one. It was also the inspiration for Q-Bert's Camel Bobsled Race (his beat juggle and cut up of DJ Shadow tracks) which is frankly mind boggling. I've got a copy at here I might be able to make available At 7:26 pm + 5/4/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not familiar with that link? On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about Bambataa's Death Mix? early enough for you? At 6:25 am + 5/4/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so i'm curious, does anyone know where one could find some pre-hip-hop mixes online. i'm talking some real deal kool herc/afrika bambataa block party stuff from the late '70s. i've never seen any around suggestions?
(313) pre-hip-hop mixes
so i'm curious, does anyone know where one could find some pre-hip-hop mixes online. i'm talking some real deal kool herc/afrika bambataa block party stuff from the late '70s. i've never seen any around suggestions?
Re: (313) pre-hip-hop mixes
i figure he's playing planet rocck and everythign around planet rock. but not so much the stuff before p[lanet rock eh whatever. a momentary curiosity. On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, matt kane's brain wrote: At 02:25 AM 4/5/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm talking some real deal kool herc/afrika bambataa block party stuff from the late '70s. i've never seen any around You could listen to an Afrika Bambaataa DJ set from the present day. He hasn't bought any new records. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) pre-hip-hop mixes
not familiar with that link? On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about Bambataa's Death Mix? early enough for you? At 6:25 am + 5/4/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so i'm curious, does anyone know where one could find some pre-hip-hop mixes online. i'm talking some real deal kool herc/afrika bambataa block party stuff from the late '70s. i've never seen any around suggestions?
RE: (313) Live Techno ?
Stewart for sure. You also can't go wrong with an Aril Brikha PA On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, George Jones - Logic7 wrote: There's always Stewart Walker. From what I understand he does a nice live set. -Original Message- From: I'm not a dj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 4:34 PM To: 313 Subject: (313) Live Techno ? Hey all ' I am part of a development team for a Festival in New Zealand, Easter, 2006 I have been asked to find a live Techno performance, for the Festival. . I have been racking my brain as to who is actually doing an interesting Live stage performance ' Also someone was talking about the Orb or FSOL . who will do a performance over ISDN? Any suggestions, would be appreciated. Mail me off list ' Alternatively it would be great to hear of peoples favourite / least favourite live act. .. I was recently reminded of when the Advent played in NZ live. We did the sound for them in this large warehouse in Wellington. As the PA company we thought they were terrible because the overdrove every channel to the max. So it was all distorted mash. The people loved it though . and it really was the last great Live Techno performance in NZ really. (1998) That was a great year, cause Der Dritte Raum played Live as well. They were stunning, but the PA for them was really bad, alot of their work was lost to bad acoustics. Oh' and I saw Rabbit in the Moon !! a touch more trance, but it was in a Forest with 160k of unreal sound for a crowd of about 1000 peeps. No one will believe me if I told you the truth about that party, but the Rabbit was cool ' .turnstyle -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005
Re: (313) dynamic duo's
you can actually take most every perlon/playhouse affiliate and combo them up... Cabanne- Luciano and Dandyjack Pantytec- Zip and Sammy D Copacabannark- Ark and Cabann (threesome?) Narcotic Syntaxe- everyone Ric Y Martin- Ricardo Villalobos Martin Schopf i could keep going... On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Gerald wrote: i've got another one... Sense Club - Villalobos Luciano - Original Message - From: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:40 AM Subject: RE: (313) dynamic duo's Ah but System 7 was two people: Steve Hillage and his missus, Miquette Giraudy -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2005 08:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) dynamic duo's Since someone stooped to 2 Unlimited I'm raising them Technotronic, Snap and even Mel Kim! Salt 'n' Peppa and The Cookie Crew seem credible after that lot... Seriously, don't forget Reese Santonio. Also Derrick May System 7. Whatever it is that we're trying to prove, have we proved it yet?!? K -Original Message- From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2005 17:10 To: J.T. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) dynamic duo's On Apr 1, 2005, at 5:56 PM, J.T. wrote: hello mcfly?!?! stinson donald! DREXCIYA dmay and d wynn = r-tyme legowelt + luke eargoggle = catnip hood mills? (anybody) + mad mike :P iz diz max404 + terrace = faceless techno bastards / Not with Terrace, but with someone else ;) kirk digiorgio ian o'brien ;) Masters at Work Duplex Cybertron Randon Noise Generation 2 Lonesome swordmen 2 Unlimited Novamen Ghetto Brothers Terrace Wladimir: Wladimir M. Dynamix II This can be a really, really long thread :) Tejada Leviste comes to mind. oooh - Fixmer McCarthy does that count Solvent Lowfish Soha - who is DJ Gregory Julien Jabre i'm sure there's a lot more... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:55 AM Subject: (313) dynamic duo's that got me thinking. artists (N)A project of James Dean Brown with Markus Nikolai on some releases and with Zip Luz Vargas on other releases what a production team - Ron 'n' Chez. Mark and Moritz too. Jeeepers. Proper dynamic duo's. Like Batman Robin. not the same on their own are they. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) dynamic duo's
you're right i'm thinking of carabanne(?) 30/30 not sure if they ever actualy release a record, but that's the name luciano and dandyjack played under together at a paxahau party in detroit a few years back. On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, matt kane's brain wrote: At 02:01 PM 4/4/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cabanne- Luciano and Dandyjack that's not right. cabanne is a dude. he did a few dj sets up north last month. he was OK. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
Re: (313) dynamic duo's
FUSE Surgeon and Regis- I forget the name right now Advent (back when anyways) TNT (Mullnex and Osborn) FUSE =P On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: On Apr 1, 2005, at 5:56 PM, J.T. wrote: hello mcfly?!?! stinson donald! DREXCIYA dmay and d wynn = r-tyme legowelt + luke eargoggle = catnip hood mills? (anybody) + mad mike :P iz diz max404 + terrace = faceless techno bastards Not with Terrace, but with someone else ;) kirk digiorgio ian o'brien ;) Masters at Work Duplex Cybertron Randon Noise Generation 2 Lonesome swordmen 2 Unlimited Novamen Ghetto Brothers Terrace Wladimir: Wladimir M. Dynamix II This can be a really, really long thread :) Tejada Leviste comes to mind. oooh - Fixmer McCarthy does that count Solvent Lowfish Soha - who is DJ Gregory Julien Jabre i'm sure there's a lot more... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:55 AM Subject: (313) dynamic duo's that got me thinking. what a production team - Ron 'n' Chez. Mark and Moritz too. Jeeepers. Proper dynamic duo's. Like Batman Robin. not the same on their own are they. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) SONAR 2005
it's a little early to purchase flights. they'll go down. as for hotels, look into smaller travel hotels/hostels i think i paid 60 euros a night On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, matt kane's brain wrote: At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
(313) fuse-in party miami review
figured this would be of interest to most of y'all got there and i'm not sure who was playing downstairs. upstairs the mainroom was still closed (i guess due to sounds system issues). took about 8 minutes for the dj to play spastik (yawn!). great track, but not really appropriate for that moment. some djs have no clue. huck went on and housed it up retty good, but everyone was waiting to get upstairs. finally they opened it up and drifted in to see mills already behind the decks. now- we all know i've had issues with mills in the past, and i wasn't expecting much. so first- the good news... he didn't redline the system!!! there did seem to be some issues with volume fluctuation between tracks, but it was never disorted. now for the bad news- i wasn't watching, but from what i could here, there is no way mills was using three decks. in fact, barring 2-3 scratches 9which weren't all that great) there was nothing mills did up in that booth that myself or a million other people couldn't have done. he mixed a highly typical selections of detroit records at a rate of about one every 3-4 minutes. and a lot of the mixes weren't even that tight. after about 2 hours of this, saunderson went on and cranked the energy up a few notches. it was more the sort of 'clubby' detroit sound i expect from kevin, but after 2 hours of the crowd hanging onto mills out of obligation rather than inspiration, you could tell people were hype. still- left after 30 more minutes. saw stacey pullen and kenny larkin in the house. not sure if either actually played. so there you have it. detroit, um... takes miami. not a bad party, but...
Re: (313) Kenny D Jr
there's a bunch of motor sets floating around slsk. almost every friday for two years was broadcast live on the radio. i have a bunch of those. need to get around to encoding the cassettes. some very early sets are on betalounge- like the kdj that was before my time. there's also a bunch of motor sets on paxahau. the '02-'03 era On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, /0 wrote: i wonder if they archived all the shows at motor there were some absolutely insane nights there, and I'd love to have copies of the music - Original Message - From: John Sokolowski To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) Kenny D Jr He played there in late 97 with Saunderson. I only remember because it was one of the first times I went there. I believe the recording from that evening is also on betalounge.com. Cheers! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Kenny D Jr Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:21:18 + (UTC) that's odd only because i don't remember kdj ever playing motor. On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Maarten Baute wrote: Couple of mixes here: http://www.djbillywoods.com/mixes.htm 2000 would be my pick, proper mental... The Motor mix is not bad either. At 11 minutes in he plays the balled of dorothy parker by Prince. Now there you have a track! And at 27 minutes he plays a track he sampled for forverernevermore, I think... And then he plays a Rhythim Is Rhythim track! MOVE IT. An edit to be precise. Thanks for sharing, Martin! Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside...
good grief he played 3-4 times over 3 years. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, /0 wrote: heh he was advert'd as former motor resident on a semi-recentish flyer I saw for an event -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside... i popped in on a cox date out here in La a few months back. he was still wearing the Motor t-shirt i gave him sometime between '01-'02 it was not in the best shape. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Kent Williams wrote: Moby is not without talent. He is a careerist who likes to make money, and is willing to put out commercial stuff to formula and frankly I don't blame him. He makes a lot of money, without killing or cheating anyone, so he's causing a lot less harm than most rich people. He will occasionally rise above the level of commercial product as the mood strikes him. Maybe if we praise him for those rare rise-abover tracks, instead of always slagging him off as a sell-out, he might do more of them. I do have it on good authority that he is kinda smelly in person, if you want some dirt on him. He showed up at a friend of mine's studio for a photo shoot, and at the photographer's request swapped shirts with my friend. My friend was so grossed out , he threw his shirt away when he got it back. This is why you read 313 list isn't it? On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:02:08 GMT, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got sent the new Moby 10.and it's actually OK! /ducks/ The LP is utter, utter cobblers, without a doubt some of the worst cash in chart/stadium techno I've heard for a long time, but the two tracks on the 10 (admittedly after one very quick listen) sound like quite reasonable minimal techno tracks with a nod to the 'german' clicky style. I suspect that in blind listening conditions many would say: OK track, maybe on Perlon? not that I'm trying to justify myself or anything;) Is it too late for me, or can I still get help?
Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside...
ah yes dennis cox was a resident On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, /0 wrote: was there another cox that was a resident then? I think there are two (in my mind) maybe dennis cox (or was that the old flint mayor) damnit, I have friday brain on a tuesday! -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]; list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside... good grief he played 3-4 times over 3 years. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, /0 wrote: heh he was advert'd as former motor resident on a semi-recentish flyer I saw for an event -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside... i popped in on a cox date out here in La a few months back. he was still wearing the Motor t-shirt i gave him sometime between '01-'02 it was not in the best shape. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Kent Williams wrote: Moby is not without talent. He is a careerist who likes to make money, and is willing to put out commercial stuff to formula and frankly I don't blame him. He makes a lot of money, without killing or cheating anyone, so he's causing a lot less harm than most rich people. He will occasionally rise above the level of commercial product as the mood strikes him. Maybe if we praise him for those rare rise-abover tracks, instead of always slagging him off as a sell-out, he might do more of them. I do have it on good authority that he is kinda smelly in person, if you want some dirt on him. He showed up at a friend of mine's studio for a photo shoot, and at the photographer's request swapped shirts with my friend. My friend was so grossed out , he threw his shirt away when he got it back. This is why you read 313 list isn't it? On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:02:08 GMT, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got sent the new Moby 10.and it's actually OK! /ducks/ The LP is utter, utter cobblers, without a doubt some of the worst cash in chart/stadium techno I've heard for a long time, but the two tracks on the 10 (admittedly after one very quick listen) sound like quite reasonable minimal techno tracks with a nod to the 'german' clicky style. I suspect that in blind listening conditions many would say: OK track, maybe on Perlon? not that I'm trying to justify myself or anything;) Is it too late for me, or can I still get help?
Re: (313) Kenny D Jr
that's odd only because i don't remember kdj ever playing motor. On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Maarten Baute wrote: Couple of mixes here: http://www.djbillywoods.com/mixes.htm 2000 would be my pick, proper mental... The Motor mix is not bad either. At 11 minutes in he plays the balled of dorothy parker by Prince. Now there you have a track! And at 27 minutes he plays a track he sampled for forverernevermore, I think... And then he plays a Rhythim Is Rhythim track! MOVE IT. An edit to be precise. Thanks for sharing, Martin! Cheers, Maarten
Re: (313) free Magazine FACT...
is this online? On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..is a great read this month, an american special. not techno orientated, but if you like music, its a great read. Good article on chicago, convincing me I have to go...etc etc etc... But, theres a chart in the back: 10 detroit classics Compiled by Matthew Dear, aka Rob Theakston. that true? alex p.s. I got my sun god frantic flowers at the weekend and it is so hot. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) Hi Tech Soul - The Movie
saw it a month ago. much more professional than i thought. a little lopsided. a few key players missin, but def the best attempt at this subject so far. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, robin wrote: Robert Taylor wrote: Anyone seen this? http://www.hightechsoulthemovie.com/ Intriguing. it was apparently shown last sunday. anyone see it? robin...
Re: (313) Hi Tech Soul - The Movie
carl had a lot of connections with the detroit cats. the first time he played detroit (motor 2001) was a regular detroit techno illuminati gang-bang On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Stewart Caig wrote: I still find Carl Cox an odd choice of UK representation in a film such as this, sure he was playing some techno sets back in the day, but he was also playing garage, house, jungle, db, happy hardcore and just about anything else he could get booked for! And his actual music has never really been any good. Stu - Original Message - From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: Re: (313) Hi Tech Soul - The Movie Robert Taylor wrote: Anyone seen this? http://www.hightechsoulthemovie.com/ Intriguing. it was apparently shown last sunday. anyone see it? robin...
Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside...
i popped in on a cox date out here in La a few months back. he was still wearing the Motor t-shirt i gave him sometime between '01-'02 it was not in the best shape. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Kent Williams wrote: Moby is not without talent. He is a careerist who likes to make money, and is willing to put out commercial stuff to formula and frankly I don't blame him. He makes a lot of money, without killing or cheating anyone, so he's causing a lot less harm than most rich people. He will occasionally rise above the level of commercial product as the mood strikes him. Maybe if we praise him for those rare rise-abover tracks, instead of always slagging him off as a sell-out, he might do more of them. I do have it on good authority that he is kinda smelly in person, if you want some dirt on him. He showed up at a friend of mine's studio for a photo shoot, and at the photographer's request swapped shirts with my friend. My friend was so grossed out , he threw his shirt away when he got it back. This is why you read 313 list isn't it? On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:02:08 GMT, Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got sent the new Moby 10.and it's actually OK! /ducks/ The LP is utter, utter cobblers, without a doubt some of the worst cash in chart/stadium techno I've heard for a long time, but the two tracks on the 10 (admittedly after one very quick listen) sound like quite reasonable minimal techno tracks with a nod to the 'german' clicky style. I suspect that in blind listening conditions many would say: OK track, maybe on Perlon? not that I'm trying to justify myself or anything;) Is it too late for me, or can I still get help?
Re: (313) save me, I think I'm going over to the darkside...
i saw New Order on Moby's Area One tour (way to tie a thread together) a few years back. They were magnificant! they opened with Atmosphere and half way through Barny stopped playing and pointed at the sky behind the audience. We all turned around and there was a giant rainbow in the sky. Magical! Oh- and there is an utterly offensive lounge singer version of Temptation on the new Moby album. Which is tragic, but at least I got to take this thread around the block... twice. On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Greg Earle wrote: On Mar 22, 2005, at 1:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, none of those lines are putting me off. i bet i'm not the only one on here that only hears vocals as the noise (ie. another instrument) and can't pick out most of the words anyway most of the time. do they use guitars a lot? that's more likely to put me off. [Warning: Extreme biases present.] I'm one of the biggest JD freaks in the world, from Day One. (How many geezers do you know who bought FAC 2 - A Factory Sampler when it was brand-new back in 1978? Martin? :) ) As far as I'm concerned, JD was The Greatest Band To Ever Walk The Face Of The Earth, bar none. No other band comes close, for me. So, for me, it's pretty hard to listen to New Order (or watch 'em, like on the DVDs) without this bias kicking in. (Especially when I see Atmosphere on a DVD and later on they play World In Motion - my God, what utter cack. How could the same 3 people have played on both of those tracks?!?) Anyway, erm ... right, the new album. Utter rubbish. You can't hear Bernard's vocals as noise when the lyrics are so utterly pedestrian (Ian was a tough act to follow, but nowadays, Barney's stuff is just plain embarrassing). And the music is mostly Rock-by-the-numbers, too. There's even a bloody Reggae-sounding track - and, what's scary, it's one of the better tracks on it. It's just so ... so lackluster, so dull, so uninteresting musically. The funny thing is, I was just listening to Adult.'s Anxiety Always the other day, and a few tracks made me stop and think how well sonically they do the 80's New Order sound in places ... In short - this record is an embarrassment, and they should retire. You have no idea how hard it is for me to say that - but they should. - Greg the old jaded Post-Punk geezer
Re: (313) Hi Tech Soul - The Movie
the obvious one is hawtin. i guess there's a lot of back drama about that one. there was also no one from the ur camp (if i recall) On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Who IYO is missing? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:27 PM Subject: Re: (313) Hi Tech Soul - The Movie saw it a month ago. much more professional than i thought. a little lopsided. a few key players missin, but def the best attempt at this subject so far.
Re: (313) Carl Craig '
Apx 30 people paid to get in. i'll bet the promoter wasn't smiling Carl turned up smiling, and played for three hours. It was real it was so solid, and ever person in the culb was dancing. I'm so tierd, and a but fuzzy. We drove 5 hours each way and worked either side to see this happen. Thank you Carl for giving us your love. .simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I forgot to say about this: (what I wrote) good djs dj for the people. you know the ones they are there to entertain? and then simon kong wrote: Techno used to have some balls. People used to stand in front of sound systems out of fear and admiration of what the dj was capable of doing. snip Shouldn't a djs make your hair stand on end?? I forgot to say that maybe you mis-understood my comment a little. I was kinda trying to say, that if I'm going to pay a load of money to get into a club, which has in turn paid that dj a load of money, I want to be entertained. and, well, if its me that needs entertaining, I wanna hear them playing something crazy, something that will make my hair stand on end. so, I agree basically. oh yeah, my mate was playing the new frantic flowers jamal moss over some mad beats from an ibadan record on saturday. and that sounded crazy! and my hair stood on end! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) brother from another planet LP
BTW, Claude Young might have a few worries with the title of the Brother From Another Planet LP, since DJ Format is about to release an LP with exactly the same title on Genuine/PIAS in April... I think Format changed the name. The promo I got was titled If You Can't Join 'Em... Beat 'Em At 1:37 pm + 17/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Japanese rappers eh?! Now that, I HAVE to hear. teehee. http://www.littledetroit.net/News/artl.php?id=501PHPSESSID=42614920d887a43067ee0098213c2af7 _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
RE: (313) saunderson at plan b, brixton, london, saturday night
if by FK you mean Francois, you friggin go!!! everyone in the ssame timezone as Fabric better friggin go!!! On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Paul Kendrick wrote: FK in techno mode is a bit lame tho -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2005 12:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) saunderson at plan b, brixton, london, saturday night oh yeah, then it's FK and Danny Wang up at Fabric. COME ON result. Danny Wang rules. : ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) 313 in da 323 this month
so great three of these events are when i'm down in miami. figures, right? On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Greg Earle wrote: A few events of interest to the 5 of us in LA, or to any LA visitors this month - Legowelt/Todd Sines, Marco Carola and Adam Beyer (I only mentioned them for Dennis Donohue's benefit :-) ), John Tejada doing an Acid House set, and KMS: Wednesday March 16th THE AUTOMAT featuring from HOLLAND and NYC/BUNKER RECORDS TOUR: A night of edgy electro.acid.techno.house LEGOWELT - live (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Legowelt) SMACKULATOR - live DJ SMACKOS DJ SPECULATOR DJ TODD SINES http://www.scalestudio.com/ residents: DANIEL - automatrecords.com GREG - heavy-industries.net [No, not me - Ed.] 9-2am | FREE | 21+ LOCATED AT: The HOLLYWOOD CANTEEN @ 1006 SEWARD STREET, info/demos: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Friday March 25th Marco Carola @ Club Red Marco Carola [Drumcode, Zenit, Germany] 9-? | $20 | 21+ located: Club Red info: http://www.nexxez.com/ --- Saturday March 26th Adam Beyer @ Avalon Adam Beyer [Drumcode, Truesoul, Sweden} 10-4am | $15/$25 | 21+ located: Avalon @ 1735 vine st, Hollywood info: http://www.avalonhollywood.com/ --- Saturday March 26th Headinghome by Futurehouse Lillyanne + John Tejada Live Acid house PA 9-2am | $10 | 21+ located: M Bar @ 1253 N. Vine St. info: http://futurehouse.net/ Thursday March 31st Kevin Saunderson @ Concorde Kevin Saunderson [KMS, Detroit] 10-2am | $20 | 21+ located: Concorde @ 1835 N. Cahuenga Blvd. Hollywood, Ca - Greg
Re: (313) 313 in da 323 this month
yeah- but there's a million and one djs in miami. doubt i'll even go see any of these since there's hotter stufff going on. just funny cause in La these are prime time events. On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Ramon Crespo wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so great three of these events are when i'm down in miami. figures, right? Carola is at Space Tuesday Saunderson is at House Thursday Beyer is at Mansion Wednesday Not missing much except Tejada. Regards, Ramon On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Greg Earle wrote: A few events of interest to the 5 of us in LA, or to any LA visitors this month - Legowelt/Todd Sines, Marco Carola and Adam Beyer (I only mentioned them for Dennis Donohue's benefit :-) ), John Tejada doing an Acid House set, and KMS: Wednesday March 16th THE AUTOMAT featuring from HOLLAND and NYC/BUNKER RECORDS TOUR: A night of edgy electro.acid.techno.house LEGOWELT - live (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Legowelt) SMACKULATOR - live DJ SMACKOS DJ SPECULATOR DJ TODD SINES http://www.scalestudio.com/ residents: DANIEL - automatrecords.com GREG - heavy-industries.net[No, not me - Ed.] 9-2am | FREE | 21+ LOCATED AT: The HOLLYWOOD CANTEEN @ 1006 SEWARD STREET, info/demos: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Friday March 25th Marco Carola @ Club Red Marco Carola [Drumcode, Zenit, Germany] 9-? | $20 | 21+ located: Club Red info: http://www.nexxez.com/ --- Saturday March 26th Adam Beyer @ Avalon Adam Beyer [Drumcode, Truesoul, Sweden} 10-4am | $15/$25 | 21+ located: Avalon @ 1735 vine st, Hollywood info: http://www.avalonhollywood.com/ --- Saturday March 26th Headinghome by Futurehouse Lillyanne + John Tejada Live Acid house PA 9-2am | $10 | 21+ located: M Bar @ 1253 N. Vine St. info: http://futurehouse.net/ Thursday March 31st Kevin Saunderson @ Concorde Kevin Saunderson [KMS, Detroit] 10-2am | $20 | 21+ located: Concorde @ 1835 N. Cahuenga Blvd. Hollywood, Ca - Greg
RE: (313) Most Listening To
this month... Blood Brothers- Crimes Bloc Party- Silent Alarms New Order- Substance AGF/Delay- Explode VA- Fiat Lux 1999.2005
Re: (313) Minimum Maximum
oh drama =P On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Do you mean the new Minimise to Maximise comp on Minus? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Minimum Maximum Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 12:19 PM wipes saliva off of keyboard and when is this coming out and any price noted? MEK Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] st.orgTo 313 mailing list 03/05/05 04:21 AM 313@hyperreal.org cc Subject (313) Minimum Maximum For all those not able to see Kraftwerk live recently: http://217.69.65.130/de/info/CD/minimummaximum.html Cheers, Hans -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
Re: (313) new/old records
remind me of this when it gets close. nevermind- ill be in miami. so no mayer for you then? it was fun. On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Greg Earle wrote: On Mar 3, 2005, at 5:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blue arsed fly? I run about like one most days if that's any use to you Kamal. A blue-arsed fly with crystal balls, yet. You're scaring me Alex. Ob313: John Tejada's doing a live Acid House set here on the 26th. More info will be available at http://futurehouse.net/ - Greg (who doesn't want to hear any hatin' on Ed DMX)
(313) aparat mp3 (fwd)
this song is flippin' beautiful. especially the last 30 seconds. i sent a bigger mail about it but it seems to have disappeared. anyways- here's the link: http://turbine.slackworks.com/robots/blair/ALongWalk.mp3 and here's a review from www.Music.for-Robots.com Jesus, sometimes when I've been listening to a lot of different kinds of music for a while, some new techno music comes along and grabs my attention like nothing else can. In this particular case it is some truly beautiful organics-meets-electronics work by Germany's Apparat, aka Sascha Ring. Sascha has been playing music since he was 7 years old, starting with the drums. He moved to Berlin in the late-90s shortly after he'd gotten into electronic music production, and has since released work on the Berlin-based BPitch Control and $hitkatapult labels. In Berlin, c. 2000, Sascha connected with Marco Haas, aka T.Raumschmiere, and has been helping him run $hitkatapult ever since. Sascha was apparently a huge fan of John Peel and the Peel Sessions, and he actually appeared on the show in May of 2004. Unfortunately, as many reported (including myself, here), Peel passed away a few months later while on holiday in Peru. The new EP, Silizium, is Apparat's dedication to the huge mentor that Peel was for him and other $hitkatapult folks. This song comes off the new EP, available here - its loaded with five beautiful new songs and four remixes, courtesey of Bus, Rechenzentrum, Telefon Tel Aviv, and an Apparat-rework. The strings, the violin and cello of Kathrin Pf nder and Lisa Stepf, aka Complex cord, plus the vocals of Raz Ohara, and the clarinet/sax of Hormel Eastwood, all meld perfectly with the buzzing bass and crunching beats throughout, producing techno music that's just loaded with this beautiful, heavy emotional content - it is really quite outstanding as a kind of techno-pop eulogy. I like this very much, and hopefully you folks will too.
Re: (313) okay i know this is a weird question
actually- that jogged a question i had. The part in Lil Louis' song Journey With the Lonely, where it breaks down in the middle and goes Come On! Hup! anyone know where that came from? it was also used by HMC on the imaginativly titled Come On On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Matt MacQueen wrote: but it's been in the back of my mind for, oh, 12 years or so... on this compilation http://e.discogs.com/release/33768 the track by Unity 3: The Age Of Love Suite... does anyone know where that vocal sample they cut up came from? always liked that one.. -- MM http://sonicsunset.com
Re: (313) Jeff Mills in Plastic Cup Shock
I tried getting onto Jeff's management about playing at our Detroit loving techno night in Liverpool - T-funkshun. She would only answer my requests by saying try getting Christian Smith on first and he'll tell Jeff what it is like. :(( g, i farking hate agents that do that. it used to be worse. agents who said you had to book them personally to check out the club for the boys opportunistic farks. then they wonder why so many clubs went under. becasue we were too busy losing money booking their unknown a$$es just so we could have the priveledge of losing money again on their overpriced superstars.
(313) lil louis sales figures
any one know where i can get some semi-accurate sale figures for lil louis' journey with the lonely album?
(313) fuse-in website
http://www.fuse-indetroit.com/ to be pronounced MusiqueLogicaal =P
(313) Special Garnier sumpthing for sale
Cool promo set I'm parting with on EBay, in case anyone cares. I'm also splitting with a Richie Hawtin Epok mini-CD. Very rare. And I'm gonna give all the $$$ to tsunami aid. little clean house/help out project i've been slowly doing the past month. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjoshuaQ5fglazer
Re: (313) Festival Will Go ON!
Fuse-In!!?? i just stopped calling it DEMF fark On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: I dont think i saw this posted. If it was, sorry. http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm2962_20050223.htm derek.
Re: (313) Tresor Closed
you'd be better off waving bills twenties or bigger On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Greg Earle wrote: On Feb 16, 2005, at 12:31 PM, john.osselaer wrote: Check their website: Anniversary includes Basic Channel live and Francois K live on Friday March 12th!!! KJ, Hans and I are going. :) Friday is March 11th, John :) The whole Thursday/Friday/Saturday weekend is absolutely sick - 10.3.2005 23:00 Uhr 14 Years Tresor - Good Bye Leipziger Strasse Part 2 Globus: - Dirt Crew (Dirt Crew Rec. / Berlin) Live! - Sasse aka Freestyle Man (Moodmusic / Berlin) - Matt Vega (Fumakilla, Vega / Kopenhagen) Tresor: - Surgeon (Dynamic Tension, Counterbalance / Birmingham) - DJ Pete (Hardwax / Berlin) - Dash (Rampe D / Berlin) Tuna Bar: - Sick Girls (wmf / Berlin) - Barbara Hallama (go_disko / Berlin) 11.3.2005 23:00 Uhr 14 Years Tresor - Good Bye Leipziger Strasse Part 3 Globus: - Basic Channel (Basic Channel / Berlin) Live! - Francois K. (Wave Music / NYC) Live! - Intro set by: Baeks Trias (Tresor HQ / Berlin) - Djoker Daan (Sommersafari / Berlin) - Dole (Death by Disco / Berlin) Tresor: - Neil Landstrumm Bill Youngman (Scandinavia / Edinbourgh) Live! - Dave Tarrida (Sativae / Barcelona) Live! + Dj Set - Kriek (Schaltstufe 13, Tresor HQ / Berlin) - Mack (Tresor HQ / Berlin) Tuna Bar: - Miss Italia (Berlin) 12.3.2005 23:00 Uhr 14 Years Tresor - Good Bye Leipziger Strasse Part 4 Globus: - Ark (Pias France, Circus Company, Karat, Kompakt / Paris) - Stewart Walker (Tresor Rec., Persona / Berlin) Live! - Luke Stuff (Funky Groove Connection / Berlin) Wake Up: Micha Stahl (Tresor HQ / Berlin) - The Advent (Tresor Rec., Kombination Research / Spain) - James Pennington aka Suburbian Knight (UR / Detroit) - Mad Max (Tresor Rec. / Kreuzberg) - DJ Dry (Rampe D / Berlin) Tuna Bar: - Conzuela Comatosa (Berlin) *Waves watch in front of yussel Doris and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to make them go with me* - Greg
Re: (313) Tresor Closed
i notive it says francois k live wonder what that's all about, since to the best of my knowledge francois doesn't really make his own tracks. they probably mean the traktor set-up that he used to blow my head off a few weeks back. but calling that live is definately misleading. On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Greg Earle wrote: On Feb 16, 2005, at 12:31 PM, john.osselaer wrote: Check their website: Anniversary includes Basic Channel live and Francois K live on Friday March 12th!!! KJ, Hans and I are going. :) Friday is March 11th, John :) The whole Thursday/Friday/Saturday weekend is absolutely sick - 10.3.2005 23:00 Uhr 14 Years Tresor - Good Bye Leipziger Strasse Part 2 Globus: - Dirt Crew (Dirt Crew Rec. / Berlin) Live! - Sasse aka Freestyle Man (Moodmusic / Berlin) - Matt Vega (Fumakilla, Vega / Kopenhagen) Tresor: - Surgeon (Dynamic Tension, Counterbalance / Birmingham) - DJ Pete (Hardwax / Berlin) - Dash (Rampe D / Berlin) Tuna Bar: - Sick Girls (wmf / Berlin) - Barbara Hallama (go_disko / Berlin) 11.3.2005 23:00 Uhr 14 Years Tresor - Good Bye Leipziger Strasse Part 3 Globus: - Basic Channel (Basic Channel / Berlin) Live! - Francois K. (Wave Music / NYC) Live! - Intro set by: Baeks Trias (Tresor HQ / Berlin) - Djoker Daan (Sommersafari / Berlin) - Dole (Death by Disco / Berlin) Tresor: - Neil Landstrumm Bill Youngman (Scandinavia / Edinbourgh) Live! - Dave Tarrida (Sativae / Barcelona) Live! + Dj Set - Kriek (Schaltstufe 13, Tresor HQ / Berlin) - Mack (Tresor HQ / Berlin) Tuna Bar: - Miss Italia (Berlin) 12.3.2005 23:00 Uhr 14 Years Tresor - Good Bye Leipziger Strasse Part 4 Globus: - Ark (Pias France, Circus Company, Karat, Kompakt / Paris) - Stewart Walker (Tresor Rec., Persona / Berlin) Live! - Luke Stuff (Funky Groove Connection / Berlin) Wake Up: Micha Stahl (Tresor HQ / Berlin) - The Advent (Tresor Rec., Kombination Research / Spain) - James Pennington aka Suburbian Knight (UR / Detroit) - Mad Max (Tresor Rec. / Kreuzberg) - DJ Dry (Rampe D / Berlin) Tuna Bar: - Conzuela Comatosa (Berlin) *Waves watch in front of yussel Doris and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to make them go with me* - Greg
Re: (313) drugs clubs
omg that's good. its a video for soulwax, otherwise known as 2manydjs On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, fab. wrote: http://www.7digital.com/downloads/soulwax/soulwaxplayer.html i presume this is some sort of promotional video for a band fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) a guy called gerald
photek issued the same complaint years ago and did an album of chicago style acid house. think about it. if jeffs mills declared techno useless, would you all stop playing it? On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone within the dnb scene really care if Gerald is making a protest against the way the music has gone? How much weight does he have within the dnb community? Seems like the techno heads pay more attention to Gerald than dnb fans. Is this out on vinyl? Sounds like a good LP. MEK Mann, Ravinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ac.uk To '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 02/15/05 03:14 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED], matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313@hyperreal.org Subject RE: (313) a guy called gerald Great CD, been playing it quite a lot and it grows on you. Much less dnb, more Detriot atmospherics too the sound. Theres a thumper of a house track too. Middle Eastern influences on some of the vocals samples. Hmm I hear you say, but it works. Much better than Essence imo. Rav. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2005 20:50 To: matt kane's brain Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) a guy called gerald so how much less drum bass is it? He was supposedly making a protest against the current grain of dnb with this album. MEK matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]To 313@hyperreal.org 02/14/05 02:45 PM cc Subject (313) a guy called gerald did i miss a thread on this or something? 'to all things what is needed' just arrived in the radio station's mailbox this week. it's excellent! especially the tracks 'meaning' and 'tajeen' i could skip the ursula rucker one, though. -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
Re: (313) drugs clubs
now that is a true statement. i must admit i felt pretty lame when the guy puking was on whisky he was the only person not having fun. alright then- who's got the GOOD drugs. On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: watching that video made me realise i'm not pulling my weight at parties anymore. nowdays i just smoke a spliff and expect everyone else to get f*%ked-up and provide the atmosphere and amusement. no wonder i'm not enjoying myself as much - i forgot, it's a group effort. james www.jbucknell.com fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To 313@hyperreal.org 15/02/05 07:36 PM cc Subject (313) drugs clubs http://www.7digital.com/downloads/soulwax/soulwaxplayer.html i presume this is some sort of promotional video for a band fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ForwardSourceID:NT000194E6
Re: FW: (313) london next sat
the end ius nice. smallerr joint, but a fuly functioning club. really loud sound. haven't been to fabric, but man i'd love to. seems like you'll also get more diversity at fabric. more rooms, more artists and such On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: dinamica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 February 2005 21:32 I am planning to visit London for some party next saturday (19th/feb). But can not make my mind up if I should go for Jeff Mills in The End or Kenny Larkin, Octave One live, Villalobos and Lusine live in Fabric... What you guys suggest? Is it a good party atmosphere in those clubs? Have enjoyed Fabric when I've been - obviously a big money making machine but the sound is great, they have lasers and it's clean and smart (not what we're used to here in Manchester). Haven't been to The End so I can't compare though I'd like to visit it sometime.
Re: (313) photek (was: a guy called gerald)
true dat on glamourama On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Carlos de Brito wrote: for me, the best track on that solaris album was glamourama, maybe better than bret easton ellis' same titled book...:) btw, you can mix and listen to that track here (and create your own sleazy pr0n-musicvideo): http://www.uzik.com/pornocombo/graphic/flyer8/pornomixer01.swf try it out, it's fun to compute c. Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] photek issued the same complaint years ago and did an album of chicago style acid house. i wouldnt describe it like that at all. really the only thing chicago-y about it was robert owens on vocals for 2 cuts. it was maybe 30% house and none of it was very acid, though it was very good. there were some ambient cuts, some downtempo breakbeat kinda cuts, and even one really nice drum and bass tune. last good thing he ever did, actually. think about it. if jeffs mills declared techno useless, would you all stop playing it? well lets look at it like it should be. lets say all the techno in the world started sounding like hardhouse. and by all i mean ALL. if he said it then, he would be right. tom andythepooh.com --- avast! Antivirus: Eingehende Nachricht sauber. Virus-Datenbank (VPS): 0507-1, 16.02.2005 Getestet um: 16.02.2005 20:17:58 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: (313) Another one bites the dust...
oh- if only juan had been ontime ;) On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Tosh Cooey wrote: Just as Juan is releasing his new album on Tresor, comes this news: http://www.tresorberlin.com/news/news.pl?id=48 Tosh -- McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC - http://www.1200group.com/
RE: (313) No Movement 2005?
The first festival was planned in about 3 months. The difference is, the first 3 festivals had city money guaraunteed. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes! That's the best idea. How long did they plan the first event? They should take the same, if not more, amount of time to plan the next festival. If this event is that important then shouldn't the quality of the event should outweigh the number of times it occurs? MEK Redmond, Ja'Maul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To erkinswill.com 313 313@hyperreal.org cc 01/28/05 08:40 AM Subject RE: (313) No Movement 2005? I really wouldn't mind if they skip a year and take an WHOLE year to develop a really special event. Four months is barely enough time to organize a party much less an festival. Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343. www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -Original Message- From: J.T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:03 PM To: Chana Goodman; 313 Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005? i agree. you can't move the festival, it's part of detroit. it's just another festival anywhere else. galivant! -Original Message- From: Chana Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 27, 2005 7:56 PM To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) No Movement 2005? Wow! David arent you happy enough to have Mills, Mike Banks living on your continent. Not to mention all the shows headlining detroit/american artists that are constantly rotating through Europe. Mn, do we really have to take one of the last formidable, and sizable electronic detroit/american events left here and move it too. I personally dont have the money to be galivanting to Europe and back. This is one thing among few others I have to look forward to. I cant believe people would even consider moving the festival as a viable option. Remember it started as DEMF for a reason, and will always be that as far as Im concerned. Move the festival, and it might as well be any other festival. sorry struck a chord. I'll certainly make a donation if thats what it takes. chana
Re: (313) US Customs (Was No Movement 2005)
there's hardly enough American DJs holding a candle to what folks in Europe are doing. Sorry. On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] i wouldnt want to come to the usa either for political reasons, not to mention economic reasons so youd punish people who want to hear your music because you disagree with the government in their country whom they probably dont agree with anyway? it makes no sense. if anything that would make me wanna go there even more. but i would rather see american artists anyways..largely passed over here even when customs were looser and dance music was healthier and this point just goes without saying. no offense to all the euro guys out there, but theres enough cats from the us holding it down that im just not that worried about it. tom andythepooh.com
(313) Francois K in LA
wow a brief overview of 3 hours slow chunky techno jack jack dub weird slower slower faster dub dub jungle BIGGIE DROP IT LIKE IT'S HOT dancehall dancehall Personal Jesus (custom remake) Warm Leatherette (edit) technotechno THRILL KILL KULT Stone Roses (?) techno MARVIN dub dub GAYE edit edit techno dub dub classical techno TECHNO whoo whoo techno dub techno techno ambient HENDRIX!!! jungle etc...
Re: (313) Bauhaus
bahaus did a tour not that many years ago. '01 or '02 i assume it was all original members On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, M : A : T : R : I : X wrote: The original Bauhaus?!?! With Peter Murphy and the Tones on Tails guys intact? that I'd sell my liver to see! Whats next, Japan reunites? is this heaven? on 1/31/05 10:28 AM, Blaauw, Martijn de at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: Bauhaus and the Cocteau twins WTFresurrection of the dead? 'Heaven or Las Vegas' by Cocteau Twins, great albumchill out music in it's true form... -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 31 januari 2005 16:19 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: (313) coachella acts sat apr 30th bauhaus,cocteau twins,m83,amp fiddler,swayzak,josh wink,dj marky sun may 1 new order,gang of four,roni size,dj krush,miss kitten ,the perceptionists,matthew dear,beans,wolf eyes,matmos
Re: (313) Bauhaus
there was definately one after that. i didn't go, but i remeber my friend going straight from winter music conference to bauhau, and '01-'02 were the two years we went On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Greg Earle wrote: On Jan 31, 2005, at 3:06 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bauhaus did a tour not that many years ago. '01 or '02 Summer 1998 actually ... not long after Kraftwerk ... I assume it was all original members Indeed it was ... and it was *glorious*. I saw the last show of the US leg of the tour (at UC Irvine), and it was awesome: http://www.bauhausmusik.com/cgi-bin/dcinfo.wcgi?date=19980925 I also saw them at The Roxy in December 1982 :-) So ... with additional acts like Amp Fiddler, Tiga, Swayzak, Miss Kittin, Matthew Dear, Matmos, etc. ... how many of you 313 lot are coming to visit us for Coachella? It's not as fun as DEMF/Movement but it's sunnier and (a lot) warmer :-) - Greg (The Original Goff)
Re: (313) Bauhaus
ok- i was totally wrong. it wasn't after comin back from miami. it was after hamlet machine, which would have been '98 my bad On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote: i think it was just daniel ash, josh. derek. On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there was definately one after that. i didn't go, but i remeber my friend going straight from winter music conference to bauhau, and '01-'02 were the two years we went On Mon, 31 Jan 2005, Greg Earle wrote: On Jan 31, 2005, at 3:06 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bauhaus did a tour not that many years ago. '01 or '02 Summer 1998 actually ... not long after Kraftwerk ... I assume it was all original members Indeed it was ... and it was *glorious*. I saw the last show of the US leg of the tour (at UC Irvine), and it was awesome: http://www.bauhausmusik.com/cgi-bin/dcinfo.wcgi?date=19980925 I also saw them at The Roxy in December 1982 :-) So ... with additional acts like Amp Fiddler, Tiga, Swayzak, Miss Kittin, Matthew Dear, Matmos, etc. ... how many of you 313 lot are coming to visit us for Coachella? It's not as fun as DEMF/Movement but it's sunnier and (a lot) warmer :-) - Greg (The Original Goff)
Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
This may be an old mail as well, I think I've heard him say this before and then 6 months later he was touring. it came from the label today. and yeah, he's being a spaz My 2cents M - Original Message - From: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005? Even if Movement had the money, city support, sponsors, logistics, etc. in their hands, it looks like they'd be stuck booking only U.S. artists..the following is downright scary: (Stolen from a friend's journal, I'm assuming this is from Laurent's mailing list) LAURENT GARNIER TOUR CANCELLATION STATEMENT LAURENT GARNIER US TOUR DATES Fri March 4 SF Ruby Skye CANCELLED Sat March 5 LA Avalon CANCELLED Mon March 7 NY Cielo CANCELLED I am very sorry to have to cancel my forthcoming U.S. tour due to what I consider to be completely unreasonable demands by the U.S. Embassy in France in order to renew my work visa. In order to obtain this new visa, the rules have once again changed since November 2004 and I would now have to not only fill out an exceedingly probing application form, but also be interviewed by a member of the Embassy staff, and provide proof of ownership of my house, details of my bank account, my mobile phone records, personal information on all my family members and more. I consider these demands to be a complete violation of my privacy and my civil liberties and I refuse to comply. I am horrified by these new regulations and feel really sad that this is what some call freedom and democracy. It has now become almost impossible for an artist to come and perform in the United States. And until this new proceedure changes I will unfortunately refuse to comply with this nonsense. Thank you for your understanding. Laurent Garnier
Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
and you also buy records and go to shows and post on a friggin 313-list. that puts you in a 1% population of those who attend Movement. while the other 99% go because it's where other people go, it's happening, people love being around other people if everyone bought stuff like you did they'd be flushed for money this year/ perspective On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: last year i spent a ton of money on movement related stuff. my gf got a shrit, we bought 4 buttons, the dvd, and the double CD. i would have spent more if they had other stuff i wanted. i think it would be dope if they just offered more cheaper stuff for people to possibly buy in order to support like a $5 CD that you could only get there with tracks by the unknown artists who are playing. thats whats up. tmo Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:11:24 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005? I completely agree with what you're saying but I counter it all could be done if everyone paid 5 bucks a day and accomplish what it needs to. Hell, a beer down there is 5 bucks. Peace, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/26/2005 05:30 PM To Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc 313 313@hyperreal.org, Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: (313) No Movement 2005? I'd pay $15 per day Putting an entrance fee on it could result in a drop in attendance. Only the real fans of the music will go and many of the raver kids just looking for some music to practice their breakdancing skills to would shy away from it (possibly). If they still attract a big crowd then I would speculate that big business would perk up and much of this music would start to be considered viable (from a business stand point). Could it be a much belated catalyst for the electronic music revolution that was supposed to happen years ago? Would radio stations start playing this music when they realized that thousands of people from all over the world were actually paying to go hear it live - in Detroit? I think that as long as the festival is free - it's still not paid much attention to beyond specialized press. Anyone understand what I'm saying? MEK Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To Matt MacQueen 01/26/05 04:13 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Please respond to 313 313@hyperreal.org Martin Dust Subject [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: (313) No Movement 2005? com Fair enough, a Million people for nothing, only means two things, one of which is a long cue at the bogs I'd be happy to travel 4000 miles and still pay $15 - worth every penny - I'd rather secure the future than try to appeal to the masses, us Limeys aren't such tight asses :) M - Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 313@hyperreal.org; Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:41 PM Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005? On Jan 26, 2005, at 3:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at $15/day you would see apprx an 80% drop in attendance I concur. Also, Martin, this is america where any outdoor music festival except this one must involve guitars to be worth $15 ;) There just aren't big outdoor things in this country that aren't rock-n-roll driven.A buck though, i mean, if 2 out of every 5 kids I saw are spending $3 on those glow necklaces they can shell out a buck to get in the door. And still have some left over for an elephant ear as they walk down the Aisle O' Fried Food Vendorz. -- Matt MacQueen http://sonicsunset.com mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: Questions 1. Are we interested in the numbers only? Only? No. But there is a critical mass neded for such a space. 2. Would it not be better to put on a good festival that showcased Detroit and International artists for 10,000 and break even, than 1 Million and lose everything, including the future of the Festival? The thing is Martin, and I'm sure this is utterly foreign tosomeone in Europe, the disparity between the free fest and paid event over here is enormous. No one, even at the height of rave culture in the States, was able to draw more than 3-4000 thousand people in detroit. and half that crowd was there for the all night drug party, not the music. you wouldn't get 10,000 people into hart plaza for $15. 3. Are we on the list doing what we can to help make sure it happens? Unless anyone here can find a $100,000 sponsor and leave the check on kevin saunderson's door, there's not much we can do. plenty off offers to help have been made in the past, and less than politely declined. 4. Would it be better to start again and just continue to build on what we make than suffer at the hands of people who don't care? Or just quit. What made the festival a success was that it was a civic activity for the city of detroit. anything else is just a rave. 5. If we feel the numbers would be low in Detroit, why not put it on in Europe? I think Europe already has enough festivals, don' you? M
Re: (313) No Movement 2005?
at $15/day you would see apprx an 80% drop in attendance i could see the dollar thing working, but who knows. people are bitter. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Martin Dust wrote: I reckon $15 a day to help protect the future... - Original Message - From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Carissa Tintinalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:22 PM Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005? On Jan 26, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Carissa Tintinalli wrote: I think the significant difference between this year and past years is the current, um, chaos that Detroit city government is in right now. Considering the massive financial money pit that is Detroit, impending receivership and heightened scrutiny of expenditures, I simply can't see the city approving this UNLESS Saunderson can show commitment from private sponsors for every single dollar he needs. But I would think in order for sponsors to commit, they'd probably want a guarantee that the festival is happening, right? It just seems like a possible catch-22. Ahh, great point on the city gov't politics. It seems like now even the national press is starting to carry the story of how dire the detroit city budget deficit situation is.. where lots of job losses potentially on the line and closing of various public things already. It seems like anything flashy involving money (right down to that pimped out city-owned Lincoln Navigator? too funny) is drawing incredible scrutiny. It's like a budget witch hunt. I think they could charge even a MODEST admission and they'd still get gobs of people down in Hart Plaza. Even $1 per person.. think about how much $$$ that would have been to put towards the equipment rental, security costs, etc... I think the event has proved it's 'worth' enough to the US and international Entertainment Press that by now people would have a clue it'll be worth the few bucks you'd have to shell out to participate. peace -- Matt MacQueen http://sonicsunset.com
RE: (313) No Movement 2005?
all this makes a lot of sense, but when yyou have the mayor's bodyguards slapping reporters around on national television and nine(?) people getting shot at the fireworks, i don't think too many corporations are looking to put their name on smething. if anythin, people are going to hold ou until after the superbowl next year to decide if detroit is worth investing in. On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Scott Ellis wrote: From my perspective (been in Detroit for 9 years) there's been an exponentially greater amount of private money flowing into the City since around the time the DEMF started than in the years leading up to it. Although there are a lot of reasons for the growth, I'm convinced that the DEMF/Movement has contributed greatly to the optimism and upswing in the City. I don't think I'm alone in that perception. Although the budget crisis is for real, I'm convinced the attention this has gotten owes more to the fact that it's a mayoral election-year than that Detroit's about to go into receivership. Can you imagine the State trying to take over Detroit like they did the school board? The real story is that Sharon McPhail wants to put Kwame on the hook for the lay-offs and such. I haven't taken sides, but this year's shaping up to be a battle royale between these two. Obviously the City cannot put anything toward the festival this year, I have a good feeling that there's enough private money out there that is interested in keeping Detroit on the road to success, which includes keeping it on the map nationally and internationally for its one truly world class music event--the DEMF. You would have had to be in a coma for the last 5 years not to realize how big the festival has become for Detroit. Scott Ellis
Re: (313) What you do at the Weekend?
Monolake tongiht Matt Dear/Telefon Telaviv/Terrestre tomorrow More Matt Dear on Sunday this is not the LA i'm used to On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: - Original Message -- From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spot of BMB at House of God I think, what you lot up to? i think im going to see paul mooney tonight, tomorrow night is the technoir album release party for shawn rudiman's synthesexual album, and sunday evening ill be at heinz field for the AFC championship game between the steelers and the patriots. sounds like a fun weekend for me ;) tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Infiniti Collaborations
speaking of maurice fulton, th new Mu album is wicked. first video here: http://www.outputrecordings.com/video/mu/ they just cancelled their US tour that was supposed to start next week. wonder what gives? On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Stoddard, Kamal wrote: George Clinton, Bootsy, and Maurice Fulton all collabing w/Juan as a live band with bootsy on bass, maurice and juan on the macheenz, and george on musical direction and vox. I think maurice and juan would push the Alien twins further into the realm of phantasm/futurism they've always represented in their images and persona (I've talked at length with george about it and they both really do believe they're aliens...me too). And I believe george and bootsy would provide the perfectly spastik conceptual template for the supreme funkout/blakout that both juan and maurice have been hinting at in their music and citing as influence in their interviews. Dang that was a lot to say. Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems ** I am exactly what I wanted to become since I was 5 years old. Since 5 year olds are not noted for mature judgement and sometimes aspire to piracy or gunfighting, this is not necessarily a sign of success. **
Re: (313) laurent garnier - the cloud making machine
yes yes yes garnier on the avalon system On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Jeanne Klafin wrote: Laurent will be over for a few DJ dates in March, in support of The Cloud Making Machine: Friday, March 4th in San Francisco at Ruby Skye Saturday, March 5th in Los Angeles at Avalon Monday, March 7th in New York at Cielo -- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:08:46 -0500 To: 313 313@hyperreal.org From: Ramon Crespo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: laurent garnier - the cloud making machine Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey 313 Figured some of you would like to know about this. news from residentadvisor.net :-) F Communications main man and one of the most credible, widely respected and varied producers to represent the French has his new album slated for delivery next month. Laurent Garnier's new album, The Cloud Making Machine, is said to be his most personal album to date. This, his forth album, is to be released on the well distributed Mute record label on February 22. The album features a host of collaborations with musicians across an incredible array of genres and sounds. This includes Norwegian jazz pianist Bugge Wesseltoft (who previously played on stage with Garnier at Sonar), Tunisian singer and master oude player Dhafer Youssef, Scan X on guitar (also responsible for sound design), Sangoma Everett with percussion and vocals, Marc Chalosse on keyboards and Philippe Nadaud with his saxophone. It is this mix of talent that mesh with Garnier's incredible style to provide The Cloud Making Machine ñ not to be confused with you're standard artist albums. Laurent Garnier ñ The Cloud Making Machine Tracklist 01. The Cloud Making Machine Part 1 02. 9:01-9:06 03. Barbiturik Blues 04. Huis Clos 05. Act 1 Minotaure Ex. 06. First Reaction (V2) 07. Controlling The House Part 2 08. (I Wanna Be) Waiting For My Plane 09. Jeux D'enfants 10. The Cloud Making Machine Part 3 Personally looking forward to this like crazy. I hope there's a tour planned and there's some stateside dates. Regards, Ramon Anyone know if there's gonna be at any 313 @ WMC '05 ? I'm feenin for some techno down here :( --
Re: (313) Maurice Fulton Re: (313) Infiniti Collaborations
except Mu/Maurice is cancelled doh!!! On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Gerald wrote: Just noticed this as well... Mu (live), Maurice Fulton, and Carl Craig - this weekend for Soft-Curls @ Oslo - Jan 22nd http://www.soft-curls.com/ Cheers! G website: www.gerald-matrix.com event organiser/writer/dj: Kick Magazine - www.kickmagazine.ca radio host: Equinox Radio on Electrique @ www.netmusique.com - Original Message - From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fulton's involved in producing Mu on Output Recordings. Very crazy sh*t. You can check out the Paris Hilton track here: http://www.outputrecordings.com/video/mu/ Andrew
Re: (313) laurent garnier - the cloud making machine
i've been marinating in the record for a minute. gotta say i was disappointed at first as it's almost all 'mood' music for lack of a less cliche phrase. but once i finally checked it on headphones it really started to grow on me. still, there's only one classic garnier banger and it's followed by one of the worst cuts ever recorded. Sorry Laurent, but what a stinker. On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Ramon Crespo wrote: Hey 313 Figured some of you would like to know about this. news from residentadvisor.net :-) F Communications main man and one of the most credible, widely respected and varied producers to represent the French has his new album slated for delivery next month. Laurent Garnier's new album, The Cloud Making Machine, is said to be his most personal album to date. This, his forth album, is to be released on the well distributed Mute record label on February 22. The album features a host of collaborations with musicians across an incredible array of genres and sounds. This includes Norwegian jazz pianist Bugge Wesseltoft (who previously played on stage with Garnier at Sonar), Tunisian singer and master oude player Dhafer Youssef, Scan X on guitar (also responsible for sound design), Sangoma Everett with percussion and vocals, Marc Chalosse on keyboards and Philippe Nadaud with his saxophone. It is this mix of talent that mesh with Garnier's incredible style to provide The Cloud Making Machine – not to be confused with you're standard artist albums. Laurent Garnier – The Cloud Making Machine Tracklist 01. The Cloud Making Machine Part 1 02. 9:01-9:06 03. Barbiturik Blues 04. Huis Clos 05. Act 1 Minotaure Ex. 06. First Reaction (V2) 07. Controlling The House Part 2 08. (I Wanna Be) Waiting For My Plane 09. Jeux D'enfants 10. The Cloud Making Machine Part 3 Personally looking forward to this like crazy. I hope there's a tour planned and there's some stateside dates. Regards, Ramon Anyone know if there's gonna be at any 313 @ WMC '05 ? I'm feenin for some techno down here :(
RE: (313) tons of tones
but you are incorrect. usually searching nirvana on soulseek yeilds thousands of hits. but not this most recent time, indicating that either a) everyone deleted nirvana off their hard drives, b) there's been a mass exodus of people no longer using slsk, or c) that something is not functioning as usual. my guess is C and i know this debate is boring as heck for most of you, i just wish people would read post more carefully before getting snippy On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, David Gillies wrote: And my point was that soulseek is the wrong network to be testing with something huge like Nirvana. For example I was doing a search for Hit Me Baby One More Time by Britney Spears (it was for a wedding I was djing at...) and there was one hit from Ms Spears. But I got about 30 hits from various mashups and cover versions from people who are way more obscure. If I did the same search on another network it would have been all Ms Spears and no weird mashups and cover versions. On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 11:46 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no- my point was just that i use something huge in order to test the network if something seems wrong. and something was definately off this weekend. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, David Gillies wrote: The best thing about soulseek for me is not in finding lots of well known stuff (like nirvana) but being able to find lesser known stuff that I can't find on any other p2p network. Try typing something 313 related in soulseek and then try it on another more well known network (perhaps like Limewire or something) and compare the differences. Then you'll see when everyone here talks it up. On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 17:20 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i did notice the search function not turning up too much i used Nirvana as a test,, and only came up with a few hundred files instead of the usual thousands On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] there are major problems with the slsk search function lately, i imagine it will be fixed soon... soulseek kills the rest, when it's working correctly didnt realise that they were having bugs. even when they do, its so worth it to just stick it out. i always give them money for the DL priveledges too, with that its honestly the best access to the best music ive ever seen. you can literally find just about anything.
RE: (313) tons of tones
no- my point was just that i use something huge in order to test the network if something seems wrong. and something was definately off this weekend. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, David Gillies wrote: The best thing about soulseek for me is not in finding lots of well known stuff (like nirvana) but being able to find lesser known stuff that I can't find on any other p2p network. Try typing something 313 related in soulseek and then try it on another more well known network (perhaps like Limewire or something) and compare the differences. Then you'll see when everyone here talks it up. On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 17:20 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i did notice the search function not turning up too much i used Nirvana as a test,, and only came up with a few hundred files instead of the usual thousands On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] there are major problems with the slsk search function lately, i imagine it will be fixed soon... soulseek kills the rest, when it's working correctly didnt realise that they were having bugs. even when they do, its so worth it to just stick it out. i always give them money for the DL priveledges too, with that its honestly the best access to the best music ive ever seen. you can literally find just about anything.
Re: (313) DIN on Cheap records - drumless techno
one of the first mixtapes i ever bought was a DIN tape that I picked up in Boston. i believe he was local to that area. I can't even count how many Detroit classics I heard for the first time on that tape. On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just picked up this http://www.discogs.com/release/94285 was wondering if the rest of the entries on discgos regarding the artist DIN were correct? Everything else is lumping him/her/them as trance which just doesn't fit with the music on this little 10 I like this alot - pretty sparse instrumentation - sounds like one keyboard and a drum - maybe an 303 as well and pretty much a heavy groove laid out by the keyboard the B-side (I think) is just a keyboard playing out a groove. It's drumless techno which makes it even funkier imo. so two questions then - who is DIN and what else has he released? as I don't trust the discogs entries. and anyone got any favs when it comes to drumless techno that isn't ambient? MEK
RE: (313) tons of tones
i did notice the search function not turning up too much i used Nirvana as a test,, and only came up with a few hundred files instead of the usual thousands On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: J.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] there are major problems with the slsk search function lately, i imagine it will be fixed soon... soulseek kills the rest, when it's working correctly didnt realise that they were having bugs. even when they do, its so worth it to just stick it out. i always give them money for the DL priveledges too, with that its honestly the best access to the best music ive ever seen. you can literally find just about anything. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) P2P
Donations give you download privileges for 30 days, wich means if you do a search and you want to download one of the results, you'll end up on top of the (if any) queue. (that is, if no one else with privileges is in that queue) as i recently discoverd, although they don't seem to explicitly say it anywhere, the more you give, the longer your privledges. i've always just given $5 and gotten 30 days. although i recently gave $7 for a friend who i owed $7. he got $45. So decided what the hey and donated $30, and i got 270 days. Furthermore, you can make a userlist and say if you wanna share with the world, or just with ppl in that list. Handy to prevent leeches from grabbing all your shared stuff. Works excellent for me, it's free, never any security issues (running XP pro so enough issues there) so I'd just say give it a try. If you want to add me to your SLSK userlist - my UN is pascal1971. Got some nice sets to share! Cheers Pascal. Hometaping is killing music - support your local recordstore! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 11 januari 2005 14:04 Aan: '313' Onderwerp: (313) P2P No not another discussion of the ethics of it - sod the ethics I'm just going to do it. I've never had file sharing software on my machine before as it's given me kind of security worries. However talking with a couple of you folks recently after I was trying to get hold of Rhythm and Sound livesets I now feel it's risk worth taking (I'm pretty good with backing my machine up) - if it's a risk at all? So before I leap lemming-like off this cliff does anyone have any last words of warning for me? Think I'm going for Soulseek since that's what I mostly hear about on here, so I guess that means it's best for 313 stuff - and hopefully for the wider musical world too? Anybody going to suggest there's a better alternative? If nobody does there are a one or two (=3) specific questions maybe somebody might be kind enough to give me a view on: Do people make 'donations'? Someone told me that this might occasionally be necessary. I gather from the Soulseek site that the version they have to download, 155, is newish, are people using this and is it stable? I also gather XP service pack 2 has given this software (and other P2P s/w also?) a headache (event ID4226 bla bla) which Soulseek recommend fixing with a patch from http://www.lvllord.de/?lang=enurl=4226patch/faq - which you should only use if you know what you're doing. Guess I'll find out whether I know what I'm doing when I do it. Has anyone come across this problem? And if so tried this fix? C'mon folks, confirm the view of those who, on hearing about a forum on Detroit techno, think I bet they talk about loads of nerdy stuff on there.
Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson DEMF set playlist
plus- you have to make fun of his 'rising up from behind the turntables' when his name was annouced On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: Jason Brunton [EMAIL PROTECTED] And don't forget some REALLY dodgy euphoric Trance-like moments too :( seriously, this year his set was some of the worst crap ive ever heard. ive got nothing but respect for the man, but he played garbage white sounding trancey ravey crapola. he started with spastik then went rave-god. forget that nonsense. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Energy Flash by Simon Reynolds
And I don't know any (dance) music writer who is not involved in some other aspect of the business - DJ/producer, publicist (which I have a problem with, actually), or whatever. Ahem! Although to be honest, I did spend four years writiing about music while promoting a club. Hell, i often wrote about my own events on multiple occasions. Also the role of the critic is changing with new technologies - even with forums such as this list. As many people would read reviews on this list as some music mags. Anyone can post a review on Amazon! I myself regard them as a form of entertainment. I always read reviews after I have listened to something. That's fun. I know many, perhaps rightfully, have a problem with the way that mags back trends but that dialectic has existed long before mags, there will always be flux in pop culture whether there is a traditional media or not. Is the 80s revival so very different to the classical revival in the Renaissance in terms of dialectic? And yes I doubt that Botticelli thought he was painting 'Renaissance art' but that's how we view it in retrospect, yet the art works exist on their own. Tags are everywhere.
Re: (313) Kevin Saunderson DEMF set playlist
spastik On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone got any playlists from Saunderson's DEMF appearances? MEK
Re: (313) 2000 DEMF flyer
hey! barbara's alive! On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Barbara Deyo wrote: Jamie LaTondresse (sp?) designed the flyer and the majority of the marketing materials. He was working at C-Pop at the time. I know he has his own gallery of sorts somewhere in the Detroit area - not exactly sure what/where. The painting image used on some of the marketing materials was done by Tom Thewes (owner of C-Pop) Barbara -- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:17:28 -0600 (CST) To: 313@hyperreal.org From: MikeD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DEMF 2000 FLyer question Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who designed the DEMF 2000 flyer? Google has not been nice to me so far. Thanks -m -- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:42:08 +0100 To: 313@hyperreal.org From: DJ Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2000 FLyer question Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How does it look like :) - Original Message - From: MikeD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: (313) DEMF 2000 FLyer question Who designed the DEMF 2000 flyer? Google has not been nice to me so far. Thanks -m -- Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:49:41 -0500 To: MikeD [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org From: M : A : T : R : I : X [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2000 FLyer question Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/5/05 10:17 AM, MikeD at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: Who designed the DEMF 2000 flyer? Google has not been nice to me so far. Thanks -m my guess would be Gary Arnette (the designer of the infamous Made In Detroit logo) he designed the DEMF logo as well. sean -- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:30:09 +0100 To: M : A : T : R : I : X [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2000 FLyer question Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5-jan-05, at 16:49, M : A : T : R : I : X wrote: on 1/5/05 10:17 AM, MikeD at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: Who designed the DEMF 2000 flyer? Google has not been nice to me so far. Thanks -m my guess would be Gary Arnette (the designer of the infamous Made In Detroit logo) he designed the DEMF logo as well. I know that painting used on the front of the flyers is hanging at the Techno Exhibit Detroit Historical Museum. I have the flyer here but i can't see any being credited for it. KJ --- http://technotourist.org -- Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:40:20 +0100 To: 313 Mailinglist List 313@hyperreal.org From: kj at technotourist dot org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) DEMF 2000 FLyer question Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5-jan-05, at 16:49, M : A : T : R : I : X wrote: on 1/5/05 10:17 AM, MikeD at [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered these words: Who designed the DEMF 2000 flyer? Google has not been nice to me so far. Thanks -m my guess would be Gary Arnette (the designer of the infamous Made In Detroit logo) he designed the DEMF logo as well. I know that painting used on the front of the flyers is hanging at the Techno Exhibit Detroit Historical Museum. I have the flyer here but i can't see any being credited for it. KJ --- http://technotourist.org
(313) paging tristan
your e-mail is kicking back. hit me up off-list
RE: (313) Where's Alex?
what a drama queen. =P On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Renegade808 wrote: I hope he's not been scared away by the sourpus brigade i dont think alex would just run away from a little heated discussion..in fact i think he liked them.so the sourpus brigade did'nt scare him away.i think he just got bored not sure if i am suppose to post a private email, but its not ill intended or hurting anyone so.. here is what he mailed to me after our last exchange.. michael Mike. Its all cool. I unsubbed anyway, I got a few messages lately saying stop being a dick, and well, I cant help myself, so thought it best really - I'm only going to start winding people up more I guess. anyways, believe it or not I've enjoyed our heated exchanges over the years! take care alex -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:36 PM To: 'Dan Bean'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Where's Alex? To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm 2nded. Im sure he has his reasons. -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 December 2004 15:27 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Where's Alex? He's not on 313 any more... And it's a damn shame imo. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) london nye
have a friend heading to london next week. suggestions for nye blowouts?
Re: (313) kenny larkin DJ sets
uh... he played preacher man er... On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, jason kenjar wrote: hey everyone, last summer kenny larkin played a GREAT techno set here in iowa city. Does anyone have a track listing of any of Mr. Larkin's recent dj sets? thanks in advance ! -jason
Re: (313) At Les
i only said that to turn the screws since Thomas for some reson seems exceptionally opposed to the track. ah- this is the 313 i know and love. On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Renegade808 wrote: At Les is not the end all be all track for everyonesome love it and i am sure obviously some don'teveryone hears differently.just because someone does'nt agree does'nt mean they don't get it. and no one has to see Innerzone live to understand it either (maybe this is what you had to do to understand it). the original track is on wax and i would say its a good representation of the track...like i said some feel it and some don't. i like the track and other CC stuff but i would'nt go telling peeps they don't get it if they don't like the same tracks i do..geesh michael www.renegaderhythms.com what's with the undying love wow- a little overdramatic, yeah? what's with the love of anything you like? i just really like the track. i think those opening chords are as classic as anything from the genre. And so does CC as he rerecorded it with Innerzone Orchestra and repeatedly stated that he viewed the song as one of his standards On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: did i miss the memo? ive never thought at les was all that remarkable really, especially compared to other things CC has done. whats with the undying love for this track? tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) At Les
i never thought saying i like a carl craig record would cause this sort of meltdown this list sucks now. \ On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, robin wrote: oh change the record michael. no, really, lets talk about records. tssk robin... On 17 Dec 2004, at 11:13, Renegade808 wrote: if someone told me that i don't get it because i dont like a classic track...well to me that stinks of arrogance...not everyone has to think __ track is a classic...and i was just letting yussel know my opinion of thatso why should you care did i say something to you just go back underneath your rock and let me bicker and whine just like everyone else on this dang list!!!moral watchdog??? ha ha now thats funny, i dont think so i'll leave that up to the others who feel its there role to protect the innocent
Re: (313) lookin' to get my brink on
For my money, Soul Center 2 is the best one. Lots of great preacher man style samples (though not bombastic like Green Velvet, if that's what your thinking). Actually the first track on the new Dark Comedy CD reminded me of Soul Center 2 a great deal. And here's the other album you're asking about: http://www.discogs.com/release/1142 On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, thomas ironside ainslie wrote: wise list, i've been a fan of thomas brinkmann for a while, yet i don't own much of his material. so i've got a couple questions: which Soul Center album should i pick up if i can only afford one of them? and what's that album called where all the track titles are names of women? (karin on the dan bell mix cd is fantastic) thanks tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.synthetictom.com
Re: (313) detroit ambient
carl craig- at les On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi folks. just curious about which detroit-produced ambient trax you would consider your favorites. right now I'm hooked on gathering light, by detroit escalator company. that track just pulls me out of whatever I'm doing. Cheers, Lee R. Herrington U STORE IT Technical Support Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 440-260-2245
RE: (313) detroit ambient
all in the ears of the listener i guess. tagging music is hard. On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at les Eh? Yeah it's good to listen to (in fact I think I probably like listening to it more than any other piece of music!) as well as dance to But 'ambient'?
