Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
I saw Fleetwood Mac here on their last tour maybe 3 years ago. I took my mum. The seats were 'diamond' and costly but at the back! A lot of hipsters are into them. And a surprising number of Detroit DJs are closet fans, like Theo Parrish. I believe Dreams was an old Chicago club favourite! Sasha is playing some very unprog stuff at the moment - lots of minimal! There's also a new breed of DJ from the prog scene playing minimal, deep house, post prog and I don't mind it. People like James Zabiela, Paolo Mojo, and Desyn Masiello. It's OK. On 08/02/2007, at 4:52 AM, kent williams wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. Chymera has a track that originally sampled You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac. I advised him to drop the sample because the track didn't need it, but he still drops the sample when he plays it out. Never underestimate the power of Fleetwood Mac. I saw them live in 1976, and with the exception of a few Christine McVie weepers, it was a full on dance party. And if you're into collecting and using sample CDs, the Mick Fleetwood sample CD is insanely great. On 2/7/07, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else feel like it reminds them of Stand Back by Stevie Nicks? :) derek.
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Tiestolicious - that's brilliant! On 08/02/2007, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 01:37:41 PM: On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David
RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
I always found his earlier stuff pretty boring, like a lot of goes nowhere trance...just because it's transmat doesn't mean it's lore...and for me this new stuff sort of progresses down the same path, just even more accessible That last Madonna CD blew me away though, so what do I know... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:11 PM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Frankly, I don't think he gives a sh*t what we think. After reading some of the blog entries on his myspace page, this statement for example: SUPPORT TRANCE MUSIC...AND MUSICIANS WITH CHEESY TASTE IN MUSIC! THANKS. .ARIL I get the feeling that his tongue is placed firmly in his cheek on this one. Still, no reason to support cheesy music even if it was supposed to be sort of funny. I went back and had a listen to his Prey for Peace/Dissorganized ep and thought those tracks were halfway to tranceville as well. A little to Uplifting for my taste. which one is the trance tune? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 02:49:11 PM: On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. aril used to be on this list, i wonder if hes still lurking around listening to us rip his tune. DOOD, IF YOURE OUT THERE, GO BACK TO YOUR OLD STYLE!!! tmo -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM
RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
Why is it that that word 'uplifting' seldom fails to have me in fits of guffaws, for some reason? :) (To even think that an Aril Brikha record might be 'funny' is a turn-up for the books.) -Original Message- From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 February 2007 02:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) I always found his earlier stuff pretty boring, like a lot of goes nowhere trance...just because it's transmat doesn't mean it's lore...and for me this new stuff sort of progresses down the same path, just even more accessible That last Madonna CD blew me away though, so what do I know... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:11 PM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Frankly, I don't think he gives a sh*t what we think. After reading some of the blog entries on his myspace page, this statement for example: SUPPORT TRANCE MUSIC...AND MUSICIANS WITH CHEESY TASTE IN MUSIC! THANKS. .ARIL I get the feeling that his tongue is placed firmly in his cheek on this one. Still, no reason to support cheesy music even if it was supposed to be sort of funny. I went back and had a listen to his Prey for Peace/Dissorganized ep and thought those tracks were halfway to tranceville as well. A little to Uplifting for my taste. which one is the trance tune? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 02:49:11 PM: On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. aril used to be on this list, i wonder if hes still lurking around listening to us rip his tune. DOOD, IF YOURE OUT THERE, GO BACK TO YOUR OLD STYLE!!! tmo -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM
Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
No one mentioned it is on Kompakt. For me Aril only tried to prove one thing : If you wanna be more famous, signed on a hype label, just produce borderline music, and it will works perfectly. I think Aril was totally aware of that, and he simply did it. I guess thats why he has this ironic talking. (Anyway, i can say that i like the track Berghain). - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I don't think he gives a sh*t what we think. After reading some of the blog entries on his myspace page, this statement for example: SUPPORT TRANCE MUSIC...AND MUSICIANS WITH CHEESY TASTE IN MUSIC! THANKS. .ARIL I get the feeling that his tongue is placed firmly in his cheek on this one. i dont appreciate irony. at least not when its about bad music. Still, no reason to support cheesy music even if it was supposed to be sort of funny. I went back and had a listen to his Prey for Peace/Dissorganized ep and thought those tracks were halfway to tranceville as well. A little to Uplifting for my taste. yeah its poop, id sell it if people were willing to pay anything for it. thats what i get for buying tunes blind. he's off the list! which one is the trance tune? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 i cant even subject myself to that. tmo
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On 2/8/07, pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always found his earlier stuff pretty boring, like a lot of goes nowhere trance...just because it's transmat doesn't mean it's lore...and for me this new stuff sort of progresses down the same path, just even more accessible do you like techno? That last Madonna CD blew me away though, so what do I know... blew you away? i like madonna as much as the next man but gratuitous abba samples certainly dont blow me away. tmo
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You guys are much too harsh on it. The track isn't that bad. Not exactly earth shattering, but its fine as background music. For those that hate the tune so much, maybe Tiestolingus would be a more appropriate expression than Tiestolicious??? Tiestolicious - that's brilliant! On 08/02/2007, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 01:37:41 PM: On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David
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On 2/8/07, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys are much too harsh on it. The track isn't that bad. Not exactly earth shattering, but its fine as background music. for me at least, its the quality of his earlier material that makes me so harshly critical of it. if he was just some joker from the beginning, i wouldnt even have listened to this tune! but the man was at one time truly gifted in the art of making some beautiful melodic techno. and now hes not. tmo
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I will, again, submit these four samples for your comparison: http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 Tiestolingus, Tiestolicious, Craptastic, Sashandbag and Dishragweed, it's all the same. MEK darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2007 12:34:17 PM: You guys are much too harsh on it. The track isn't that bad. Not exactly earth shattering, but its fine as background music. For those that hate the tune so much, maybe Tiestolingus would be a more appropriate expression than Tiestolicious??? Tiestolicious - that's brilliant! On 08/02/2007, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 01:37:41 PM: On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David
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Hi list members. because I give a gigant vallue to music, I never loose the respect or admiration for an artists when he have a release that I consider good and important. So Arils releases on Transmat will allways make him a chapter of good eletronic music for me. I agree with the list brother that Pray for Peace EP was allready an alert, musicaly. so, being pratic, I would say Aril is now bringin quality to trance music. nothing wrong. the only sad thing for me is that I didnt saw a live act from him, in the old times. he have a vinyl album to be released soon I beliave. maybe it will be a good surprise. all the best www.myspace.com/apoena From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pauley [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:20:14 - Why is it that that word 'uplifting' seldom fails to have me in fits of guffaws, for some reason? :) (To even think that an Aril Brikha record might be 'funny' is a turn-up for the books.) -Original Message- From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 February 2007 02:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) I always found his earlier stuff pretty boring, like a lot of goes nowhere trance...just because it's transmat doesn't mean it's lore...and for me this new stuff sort of progresses down the same path, just even more accessible That last Madonna CD blew me away though, so what do I know... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:11 PM To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Frankly, I don't think he gives a sh*t what we think. After reading some of the blog entries on his myspace page, this statement for example: SUPPORT TRANCE MUSIC...AND MUSICIANS WITH CHEESY TASTE IN MUSIC!â¨â¨THANKS. .ARIL I get the feeling that his tongue is placed firmly in his cheek on this one. Still, no reason to support cheesy music even if it was supposed to be sort of funny. I went back and had a listen to his Prey for Peace/Dissorganized ep and thought those tracks were halfway to tranceville as well. A little to Uplifting for my taste. which one is the trance tune? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 02:49:11 PM: On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. aril used to be on this list, i wonder if hes still lurking around listening to us rip his tune. DOOD, IF YOURE OUT THERE, GO BACK TO YOUR OLD STYLE!!! tmo -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.30/674 - Release Date: 2/7/2007 3:33 PM _ Seja um dos primeiros a testar o novo Windows Live Mail Beta- grátis. Acesse http://www.ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d
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Though the second sample leaves a lot of be desired, I'm not any less unimpressed with these tracks than I've been with most other tracks I've heard by Brikha. The fact that the tracks sound a tad progressive doesn't make them any worse or better, for me at least. I will, again, submit these four samples for your comparison: http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 Tiestolingus, Tiestolicious, Craptastic, Sashandbag and Dishragweed, it's all the same. MEK darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2007 12:34:17 PM: You guys are much too harsh on it. The track isn't that bad. Not exactly earth shattering, but its fine as background music. For those that hate the tune so much, maybe Tiestolingus would be a more appropriate expression than Tiestolicious??? Tiestolicious - that's brilliant! On 08/02/2007, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 01:37:41 PM: On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David
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RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
I would say Aril is now bringin quality to trance music. Check this links I posted - one track is by Aril, the rest are by the usual trance suspects http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 Compare them and tell me what kind of quality Aril is bringing to trance music that isn't already there. Is it because he's bringing his history of producing Detroitesque techno for Detroit labels? Is that the quality? I have yet to hear anyone tell me they've listened to these tracks and said that Aril's is better or any different. If you think it's better than I'd love to hear your explanation as to how and why. MEK
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HAHAHAHAHA - BUSTED! Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 February 2007 19:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Though the second sample leaves a lot of be desired, I'm not any less unimpressed with these tracks than I've been with most other tracks I've heard by Brikha. The fact that the tracks sound a tad progressive doesn't make them any worse or better, for me at least. I will, again, submit these four samples for your comparison: http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 Tiestolingus, Tiestolicious, Craptastic, Sashandbag and Dishragweed, it's all the same. MEK darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2007 12:34:17 PM: You guys are much too harsh on it. The track isn't that bad. Not exactly earth shattering, but its fine as background music. For those that hate the tune so much, maybe Tiestolingus would be a more appropriate expression than Tiestolicious??? Tiestolicious - that's brilliant! On 08/02/2007, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 01:37:41 PM: On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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Only one of those is Aril's - the rest are massive trance Choons the last one is Sasha MEK darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2007 01:45:38 PM: Though the second sample leaves a lot of be desired, I'm not any less unimpressed with these tracks than I've been with most other tracks I've heard by Brikha. The fact that the tracks sound a tad progressive doesn't make them any worse or better, for me at least. I will, again, submit these four samples for your comparison: http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 Tiestolingus, Tiestolicious, Craptastic, Sashandbag and Dishragweed, it's all the same. MEK darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2007 12:34:17 PM: You guys are much too harsh on it. The track isn't that bad. Not exactly earth shattering, but its fine as background music. For those that hate the tune so much, maybe Tiestolingus would be a more appropriate expression than Tiestolicious??? Tiestolicious - that's brilliant! On 08/02/2007, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 01:37:41 PM: On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David
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On 2/8/07, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys are much too harsh on it. The track isn't that bad. Not exactly earth shattering, but its fine as background music. for me at least, its the quality of his earlier material that makes me so harshly critical of it. if he was just some joker from the beginning, i wouldnt even have listened to this tune! but the man was at one time truly gifted in the art of making some beautiful melodic techno. and now hes not. tmo if he was just some joker from the beginning... This is where we part ways, 'cause almost everything of his sounds half baked to me, except for Headhunter. I will give him credit for having a nice, rich sound that does sound pretty at times.
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On 2/8/07, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if he was just some joker from the beginning... This is where we part ways, 'cause almost everything of his sounds half baked to me, except for Headhunter. I will give him credit for having a nice, rich sound that does sound pretty at times. for me he's pretty much one of the best at techno: he has melody, he has minimal structures, his tunes evoke that melancholy feeling, etc. every tune on Deeparture in Time is a classic IMO. he out detroited even many detroit producers with that album. tom
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aril played live in chicago about a year ago w/ a nord synth (i believe) and it was a great set w/o trancy sounds. the party went off w/ the usual techno heads here, i'm sad to hear he's making trance now but he didn't always suck. kate On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/8/07, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if he was just some joker from the beginning... This is where we part ways, 'cause almost everything of his sounds half baked to me, except for Headhunter. I will give him credit for having a nice, rich sound that does sound pretty at times. for me he's pretty much one of the best at techno: he has melody, he has minimal structures, his tunes evoke that melancholy feeling, etc. every tune on Deeparture in Time is a classic IMO. he out detroited even many detroit producers with that album. tom kate simko http://www.katesimko.com out now*: Detalles Hello Donee 12 Kupei Musika (11.06) out soon*: Detalles Micro's Morning LP Kupei Musika (2.07)
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On 2/8/07, kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aril played live in chicago about a year ago w/ a nord synth (i believe) and it was a great set w/o trancy sounds. the party went off w/ the usual techno heads here, i'm sad to hear he's making trance now but he didn't always suck. he played at the festival in detroit in 05 as well, no tranceyness, all the classics. there were a couple moments i didnt recognize and i was hoping that would be new stuff yet to come out. but i guess it wasnt... tom
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hi MEK. in the track Winter I see this quality. maybe the best example is an key line that enters the song after 2 minutes I guess. it is a high notes line, no chords, only separeted keys. till today I dont know how to say timbre in english, but the timbre (the way the thing sounds) on this key is very good. definitly from the deep music knoaledge that he poses. but anyway, it is not much I agree. but, like you, I enjoy analizing music so I though that keynote line was worth mention. Im sorry I cant express my self better about the parts of eletronic music. it is only a dificult of lenguage to me. all the good ! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: henrique casanova [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:01:05 -0600 I would say Aril is now bringin quality to trance music. Check this links I posted - one track is by Aril, the rest are by the usual trance suspects http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 Compare them and tell me what kind of quality Aril is bringing to trance music that isn't already there. Is it because he's bringing his history of producing Detroitesque techno for Detroit labels? Is that the quality? I have yet to hear anyone tell me they've listened to these tracks and said that Aril's is better or any different. If you think it's better than I'd love to hear your explanation as to how and why. MEK _ Verificador de Segurança do Windows Live OneCare: verifique já a segurança do seu PC! http://onecare.live.com/site/pt-br/default.htm
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Oh come on please! This thread is totally out of proportions, there is a huge different between trance (and then i mean the stuff Tiesto Paul van Dijk are playing) then what Aril is doing. Trance to me is cheey breaks with those JP-8000 supesaw lead/arpeggiator hands in the air melodies, Aril is doing none of this! I heard him play a couple of months ago in Eindhoven and it was really nice, he was basically playing lovely music and i can't wait for his new album to come out on Peacefrog. So it is sounds a bit like progressive, so what? I really enjoy some of the sounds these guys are using, they have some really nice melodies. KJ On 8-feb-2007, at 21:38, kate simko wrote: aril played live in chicago about a year ago w/ a nord synth (i believe) and it was a great set w/o trancy sounds. the party went off w/ the usual techno heads here, i'm sad to hear he's making trance now but he didn't always suck. kate On Feb 8, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/8/07, darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if he was just some joker from the beginning... This is where we part ways, 'cause almost everything of his sounds half baked to me, except for Headhunter. I will give him credit for having a nice, rich sound that does sound pretty at times. for me he's pretty much one of the best at techno: he has melody, he has minimal structures, his tunes evoke that melancholy feeling, etc. every tune on Deeparture in Time is a classic IMO. he out detroited even many detroit producers with that album. tom kate simko http://www.katesimko.com out now*: Detalles Hello Donee 12 Kupei Musika (11.06) out soon*: Detalles Micro's Morning LP Kupei Musika (2.07)
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I do find it amusing, now that progressive isn't popular, that the old prog jocks are now either playing minimal or electrohouse. lol. Recently, I even gave an epic 2 hour Sasha set of about 20 tracks :p a chance and it was a complete waste of time, but I kind of figured that when I dl'ed it. - Original Message From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 9:11:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again) Sasha is playing some very unprog stuff at the moment - lots of minimal! There's also a new breed of DJ from the prog scene playing minimal, deep house, post prog and I don't mind it. People like James Zabiela, Paolo Mojo, and Desyn Masiello. It's OK. On 08/02/2007, at 4:52 AM, kent williams wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. Chymera has a track that originally sampled You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac. I advised him to drop the sample because the track didn't need it, but he still drops the sample when he plays it out. Never underestimate the power of Fleetwood Mac. I saw them live in 1976, and with the exception of a few Christine McVie weepers, it was a full on dance party. And if you're into collecting and using sample CDs, the Mick Fleetwood sample CD is insanely great. On 2/7/07, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else feel like it reminds them of Stand Back by Stevie Nicks? :) derek.
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Not that that changes anything. Only one of those is Aril's - the rest are massive trance Choons the last one is Sasha MEK darnistle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/08/2007 01:45:38 PM: Though the second sample leaves a lot of be desired, I'm not any less unimpressed with these tracks than I've been with most other tracks I've heard by Brikha. The fact that the tracks sound a tad progressive doesn't make them any worse or better, for me at least.
(313) Aril Brikha - Winter (again)
Anyone else feel like it reminds them of Stand Back by Stevie Nicks? :) derek.
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If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. Chymera has a track that originally sampled You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac. I advised him to drop the sample because the track didn't need it, but he still drops the sample when he plays it out. Never underestimate the power of Fleetwood Mac. I saw them live in 1976, and with the exception of a few Christine McVie weepers, it was a full on dance party. And if you're into collecting and using sample CDs, the Mick Fleetwood sample CD is insanely great. On 2/7/07, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else feel like it reminds them of Stand Back by Stevie Nicks? :) derek.
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At what point did I say that it sounding like Stevie Nicks was a bad thing, Kent? Dont make me Lay you down in the tall grass, and let me do my stuff. ;) derek. On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, kent williams wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. Chymera has a track that originally sampled You Can Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac. I advised him to drop the sample because the track didn't need it, but he still drops the sample when he plays it out. Never underestimate the power of Fleetwood Mac. I saw them live in 1976, and with the exception of a few Christine McVie weepers, it was a full on dance party. And if you're into collecting and using sample CDs, the Mick Fleetwood sample CD is insanely great. On 2/7/07, Derek Plaslaiko. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else feel like it reminds them of Stand Back by Stevie Nicks? :) derek.
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On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David
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- Original Message - From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version How very dare you!! ;) m
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What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. MEK David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 01:37:41 PM: On 2/7/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone hasn't heard it it's at http://www.myspace.com/arilbrikha It has a similar chord progression, but not the same. Not a bad track but Aril's in danger of being embraced by the progressive DJs for stuff like this. Maybe Salsa and Dickweed will pick up on it. I kept my mouth shut the first time around ... but ... seriously. That chord progression, in whatever variation, is not something I want to hear in a techno track, especially on a weak sounding synth sound. Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version with lots of guitar and silly lyrics making fun of dance parties I could handle it. But I can't listen to it without laughing. I don't know what to call it, prog, trance, whatever, but I can't even listen to the whole thing in one sitting. Every time I hear that chord progression, it reminds of me of early 90's rave music, and also Good Vibrations by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, and Haddaway What Is Love. It's the ultimate dance party anthem chord progression. Kind of like the Louie Louie chord progression was for rock bands of days gone by. As far as Swedish music, I'll take new Adam Beyer and Par Grindvik any day over this Aril track. ~David
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On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. aril used to be on this list, i wonder if hes still lurking around listening to us rip his tune. DOOD, IF YOURE OUT THERE, GO BACK TO YOUR OLD STYLE!!! tmo
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I quite like Gang of Four but I notice there's some kids running around these days who have a penchant for imitating their style, though with a very different intent I guess... ~D On 2/7/07, Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe in some pseudo-GangOfFour discopunk hipster version How very dare you!! ;) m
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Frankly, I don't think he gives a sh*t what we think. After reading some of the blog entries on his myspace page, this statement for example: SUPPORT TRANCE MUSIC...AND MUSICIANS WITH CHEESY TASTE IN MUSIC! THANKS. .ARIL I get the feeling that his tongue is placed firmly in his cheek on this one. Still, no reason to support cheesy music even if it was supposed to be sort of funny. I went back and had a listen to his Prey for Peace/Dissorganized ep and thought those tracks were halfway to tranceville as well. A little to Uplifting for my taste. which one is the trance tune? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 MEK Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/07/2007 02:49:11 PM: On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of crap that tune is - not only is the chord progression bad but the synthy strings coming up behind it are totally Tiestolicious. It sounds like an old BT track. Blech. aril used to be on this list, i wonder if hes still lurking around listening to us rip his tune. DOOD, IF YOURE OUT THERE, GO BACK TO YOUR OLD STYLE!!! tmo
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On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I don't think he gives a sh*t what we think. After reading some of the blog entries on his myspace page, this statement for example: SUPPORT TRANCE MUSIC...AND MUSICIANS WITH CHEESY TASTE IN MUSIC! THANKS. .ARIL I get the feeling that his tongue is placed firmly in his cheek on this one. i dont appreciate irony. at least not when its about bad music. Still, no reason to support cheesy music even if it was supposed to be sort of funny. I went back and had a listen to his Prey for Peace/Dissorganized ep and thought those tracks were halfway to tranceville as well. A little to Uplifting for my taste. yeah its poop, id sell it if people were willing to pay anything for it. thats what i get for buying tunes blind. he's off the list! which one is the trance tune? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF181852-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF154298-01-02-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF255851-01-01-01.mp3 http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF197373-01-01-08.mp3 i cant even subject myself to that. tmo
