Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-30 Thread Emile Facey
First impressions of this are that it's definitely sounding pretty  
different from the original releases, I think AT has done a nice job  
and it's a good thing he didn't try to recreate the original sound.  
The mastering is a lot more clear and crisp, and a lot less distorted  
than on the originals. You can hear a lot more detail in certain  
tracks. Ron Murphy definitely played his part in turning these tracks  
into dancefloor destroyers. For a fan it definitely has to be heard,  
just because you can really hear a distinctly different take on the  
music you thought you knew so well.


Anyone else got it yet?



On 14 Dec 2011, at 18:08, Patrick Wacher wrote:


No argument from me :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Fred Heutte  
ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:

I'll tell you what, not that this is news to anyone, but Ron Murphy
was a wizard.  I give you Exhibit A: Wavejumper.

fh

-

Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
quality, Emile...

I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp,  
since I

know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and  
in a

bad way...

I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe  
others

might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the  
music

so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

jt

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com  
wrote:
As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in  
his mastering
process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have  
definitely
come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally  
but not
everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a  
really good

engineer though and the clips sound great to me.

One thing that might be interesting is that remastering  
everything in one
session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more  
consistent
sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot  
of them were
released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered  
by different
engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all  
the records

sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.

07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard  
before or seen

on any original releases.




On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:



well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
and can depend on which system the music is played after (home  
headphones

vs 100k stadium)



Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:



all re-mastered -



 A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to  
sound
better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it  
originally

was

Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff  
had been
remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids  
and hi end

clarity

here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

just thinking...













Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Wacher
I have the CD atm and just waiting on the vinyl to be delivered.

I haven't had a good chance to _really_ listen to the tracks, but from
my quick listen, the mastering is real good trying to find the
right word, but definitely adds 'brightness' to the tracks...
definitely as you say, crisp.

- Patrick.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 First impressions of this are that it's definitely sounding pretty different
 from the original releases, I think AT has done a nice job and it's a good
 thing he didn't try to recreate the original sound. The mastering is a lot
 more clear and crisp, and a lot less distorted than on the originals. You
 can hear a lot more detail in certain tracks. Ron Murphy definitely played
 his part in turning these tracks into dancefloor destroyers. For a fan it
 definitely has to be heard, just because you can really hear a distinctly
 different take on the music you thought you knew so well.

 Anyone else got it yet?



 On 14 Dec 2011, at 18:08, Patrick Wacher wrote:

 No argument from me :)

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com
 wrote:

 I'll tell you what, not that this is news to anyone, but Ron Murphy
 was a wizard.  I give you Exhibit A: Wavejumper.

 fh

 -

 Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
 quality, Emile...

 I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
 know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
 remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
 might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
 come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
 punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
 bad way...

 I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
 might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
 I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
 involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
 bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
 Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
 so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

 jt

 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:

 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his
 mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have
 definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but
 not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really
 good
 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.

 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in
 one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them
 were
 released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by
 different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the
 records
 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.

 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or
 seen
 on any original releases.




 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:


 well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

 but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
 and can depend on which system the music is played after (home
 headphones
 vs 100k stadium)



 Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:



 all re-mastered -



  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
 better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it
 originally
 was

 Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
 remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi
 end
 clarity

 here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

 just thinking...









Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-30 Thread jwan allen
My copy arrived today, so I plan on doing an extensive comparison this
weekend. While I had initially planned on passing on this set of
reissues, I have to tip my hat to clone, by releasing it at the end of
the year I had some spare xmas money to throw their way.

I'm sure I'll continue to take the originals to play out and will
leave the fancy comp for home listening / playing ala the shake
reissues. Which I'm sure is the exact opposite of what others do, but
then again I'm the oddball still playing wax to begin with.

Have a happy new year folks! May the next 366 give you more tunes to
jam out to and then argue about later!

jw

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have the CD atm and just waiting on the vinyl to be delivered.

 I haven't had a good chance to _really_ listen to the tracks, but from
 my quick listen, the mastering is real good trying to find the
 right word, but definitely adds 'brightness' to the tracks...
 definitely as you say, crisp.

 - Patrick.

 On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 First impressions of this are that it's definitely sounding pretty different
 from the original releases, I think AT has done a nice job and it's a good
 thing he didn't try to recreate the original sound. The mastering is a lot
 more clear and crisp, and a lot less distorted than on the originals. You
 can hear a lot more detail in certain tracks. Ron Murphy definitely played
 his part in turning these tracks into dancefloor destroyers. For a fan it
 definitely has to be heard, just because you can really hear a distinctly
 different take on the music you thought you knew so well.

 Anyone else got it yet?



 On 14 Dec 2011, at 18:08, Patrick Wacher wrote:

 No argument from me :)

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com
 wrote:

 I'll tell you what, not that this is news to anyone, but Ron Murphy
 was a wizard.  I give you Exhibit A: Wavejumper.

 fh

 -

 Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
 quality, Emile...

 I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
 know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
 remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
 might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
 come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
 punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
 bad way...

 I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
 might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
 I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
 involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
 bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
 Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
 so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

 jt

 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:

 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his
 mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have
 definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but
 not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really
 good
 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.

 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in
 one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them
 were
 released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by
 different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the
 records
 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.

 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or
 seen
 on any original releases.




 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:


 well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

 but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
 and can depend on which system the music is played after (home
 headphones
 vs 100k stadium)



 Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:



 all re-mastered -



  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
 better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it
 originally
 was

 Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
 remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi
 end
 clarity

 here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

 just thinking...










--
Technoir Audio
http://www.technoiraudio.com
dealing with your imperfect world


Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-14 Thread Fred Heutte
I'll tell you what, not that this is news to anyone, but Ron Murphy
was a wizard.  I give you Exhibit A: Wavejumper.

fh

-
Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
quality, Emile...

I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
bad way...

I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

jt

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really good
 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.

 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them were
 released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the records
 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.

 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or seen
 on any original releases.




 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:


 well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

 but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
 and can depend on which system the music is played after (home headphones
 vs 100k stadium)



 Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:


 all re-mastered -


  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
 better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally
 was

 Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
 remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi end
 clarity

 here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

 just thinking...








Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-14 Thread Patrick Wacher
No argument from me :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:
 I'll tell you what, not that this is news to anyone, but Ron Murphy
 was a wizard.  I give you Exhibit A: Wavejumper.

 fh

 -
Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
quality, Emile...

I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
bad way...

I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

jt

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really good
 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.

 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them were
 released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the records
 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.

 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or seen
 on any original releases.




 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:


 well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

 but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
 and can depend on which system the music is played after (home headphones
 vs 100k stadium)



 Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:


 all re-mastered -


  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
 better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally
 was

 Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
 remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi end
 clarity

 here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

 just thinking...








Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-14 Thread Jason Kenjar
are there any tracks for the next drexciya comp listed someplace?


On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Patrick Wacher wrote:

 No argument from me :)
 
 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote:
 I'll tell you what, not that this is news to anyone, but Ron Murphy
 was a wizard.  I give you Exhibit A: Wavejumper.
 
 fh
 
 -
 Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
 quality, Emile...
 
 I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
 know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
 remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
 might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
 come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
 punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
 bad way...
 
 I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
 might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
 I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
 involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
 bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
 Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
 so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)
 
 jt
 
 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really good
 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.
 
 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them 
 were
 released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the 
 records
 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.
 
 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or seen
 on any original releases.
 
 
 
 
 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 
 
 well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)
 
 but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
 and can depend on which system the music is played after (home headphones
 vs 100k stadium)
 
 
 
 Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:
 
 
 all re-mastered -
 
 
  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
 better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally
 was
 
 Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
 remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi end
 clarity
 
 here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/
 
 just thinking...
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-08 Thread Emile Facey

Ordered it from Juno so we'll soon see! :)

jt - I know what you mean about some of the original mastering, it's  
going to be interesting.




On 8 Dec 2011, at 00:01, Jeff Davis wrote:

As long as Alden doesn't remaster it all Black box / Italo style,  
it should be good


On Dec 7, 2011 3:43 PM, JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com wrote:
Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
quality, Emile...

I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
bad way...

I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

jt

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his  
mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have  
definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally  
but not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a  
really good

 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.

 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering  
everything in one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more  
consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot  
of them were
 released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by  
different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all  
the records

 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.

 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard  
before or seen

 on any original releases.




 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:


 well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

 but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
 and can depend on which system the music is played after (home  
headphones

 vs 100k stadium)



 Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:


 all re-mastered -


  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to  
sound
 better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it  
originally

 was

 Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff  
had been
 remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids  
and hi end

 clarity

 here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

 just thinking...







Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-08 Thread Patrick Wacher
I know Alden has done alot of mastering for a bunch of Clone releases
and obviously his own works, and IMO, they have always sounded great.
I would hazard a guess that he is a Drexciya fan and would have
treated the project with the respect it deserves.

My copy is likely flying across the Atlantic now, but as with you all,
very keen to see what he has done with them!

- P.

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 Ordered it from Juno so we'll soon see! :)

 jt - I know what you mean about some of the original mastering, it's going
 to be interesting.



 On 8 Dec 2011, at 00:01, Jeff Davis wrote:

 As long as Alden doesn't remaster it all Black box / Italo style, it should
 be good

 On Dec 7, 2011 3:43 PM, JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
 quality, Emile...

 I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
 know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
 remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
 might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
 come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
 punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
 bad way...

 I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
 might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
 I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
 involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
 bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
 Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
 so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

 jt

 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
  As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his
  mastering
  process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have definitely
  come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but not
  everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really good
  engineer though and the clips sound great to me.
 
  One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in
  one
  session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
  sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them
  were
  released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by
  different
  engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the
  records
  sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.
 
  07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or
  seen
  on any original releases.
 
 
 
 
  On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 
 
  well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)
 
  but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
  and can depend on which system the music is played after (home
  headphones
  vs 100k stadium)
 
 
 
  Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:
 
 
  all re-mastered -
 
 
   A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
  better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally
  was
 
  Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
  remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi
  end
  clarity
 
  here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/
 
  just thinking...
 
 
 




Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Emile Facey

There's a double vinyl pack coming too.


On 7 Dec 2011, at 06:06, Wibo Lammerts wrote:


indeed very well done.

2011/12/7 Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net:

1st cd out of 4 (!)
A very nice job done by Clone!


- Reply message -
Van: Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.
Datum: di, dec. 6, 2011 22:47


Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

Tracklisting

   01 Welcome To Drexciya
   02 Wavejumper
   03 Lardossen Funk
   04 Bubble Metropolis
   05 Hydro Theory
   06 Beyond The Abyss
   07 Unknown Journey
   08 Aquarazorda
   09 Rubick's Cube
   10 Sea Quake
   11 Take Your Mind
   12 Darthouven Fish Men
   13 Dehydration


Peace,
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Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Placid
just to get it straight, these arent represses are they..more of a compilation 
of tracks from various eps and lps

I tohught at one point they were going to just repress them as they appeared 
originally...


On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:35, Emile Facey wrote:

 There's a double vinyl pack coming too.
 
 
 On 7 Dec 2011, at 06:06, Wibo Lammerts wrote:
 
 indeed very well done.
 
 2011/12/7 Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net:
 1st cd out of 4 (!)
 A very nice job done by Clone!
 
 
 - Reply message -
 Van: Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.
 Datum: di, dec. 6, 2011 22:47
 
 
 Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
 available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html
 
 Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)
 
 Tracklisting
 
   01 Welcome To Drexciya
   02 Wavejumper
   03 Lardossen Funk
   04 Bubble Metropolis
   05 Hydro Theory
   06 Beyond The Abyss
   07 Unknown Journey
   08 Aquarazorda
   09 Rubick's Cube
   10 Sea Quake
   11 Take Your Mind
   12 Darthouven Fish Men
   13 Dehydration
 
 
 Peace,
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Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Marsel van der Wielen


yeah compilations of released stuff
and/but still unclear if there also will be unreleased stuff

all re-mastered -
that will be 4xcd, and 4x 2xlp

Op 7-12-2011 10:37, Placid schreef:

just to get it straight, these arent represses are they..more of a compilation 
of tracks from various eps and lps

I tohught at one point they were going to just repress them as they appeared 
originally...


On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:35, Emile Facey wrote:


There's a double vinyl pack coming too.


On 7 Dec 2011, at 06:06, Wibo Lammerts wrote:


indeed very well done.

2011/12/7 Marsel van der Wielenmar...@nomorewords.net:

1st cd out of 4 (!)
A very nice job done by Clone!


- Reply message -
Van: Patrick Wacherpwac...@gmail.com
Aan:313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.
Datum: di, dec. 6, 2011 22:47


Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

Tracklisting

   01 Welcome To Drexciya
   02 Wavejumper
   03 Lardossen Funk
   04 Bubble Metropolis
   05 Hydro Theory
   06 Beyond The Abyss
   07 Unknown Journey
   08 Aquarazorda
   09 Rubick's Cube
   10 Sea Quake
   11 Take Your Mind
   12 Darthouven Fish Men
   13 Dehydration


Peace,
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Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Placid
 
 all re-mastered -

 A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound better.  
What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally was

Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been 
remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi end 
clarity

here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

just thinking...

 that will be 4xcd, and 4x 2xlp
 
 Op 7-12-2011 10:37, Placid schreef:
 just to get it straight, these arent represses are they..more of a 
 compilation of tracks from various eps and lps
 
 I tohught at one point they were going to just repress them as they appeared 
 originally...
 
 
 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:35, Emile Facey wrote:
 
 There's a double vinyl pack coming too.
 
 
 On 7 Dec 2011, at 06:06, Wibo Lammerts wrote:
 
 indeed very well done.
 
 2011/12/7 Marsel van der Wielenmar...@nomorewords.net:
 1st cd out of 4 (!)
 A very nice job done by Clone!
 
 
 - Reply message -
 Van: Patrick Wacherpwac...@gmail.com
 Aan:313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.
 Datum: di, dec. 6, 2011 22:47
 
 
 Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
 available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html
 
 Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)
 
 Tracklisting
 
   01 Welcome To Drexciya
   02 Wavejumper
   03 Lardossen Funk
   04 Bubble Metropolis
   05 Hydro Theory
   06 Beyond The Abyss
   07 Unknown Journey
   08 Aquarazorda
   09 Rubick's Cube
   10 Sea Quake
   11 Take Your Mind
   12 Darthouven Fish Men
   13 Dehydration
 
 
 Peace,
 Patrick.
 
 
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Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Emile Facey

I believe there is one unreleased track on this comp though, right?


On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:40, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:



yeah compilations of released stuff
and/but still unclear if there also will be unreleased stuff

all re-mastered -
that will be 4xcd, and 4x 2xlp

Op 7-12-2011 10:37, Placid schreef:
just to get it straight, these arent represses are they..more of a  
compilation of tracks from various eps and lps


I tohught at one point they were going to just repress them as  
they appeared originally...



On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:35, Emile Facey wrote:


There's a double vinyl pack coming too.


On 7 Dec 2011, at 06:06, Wibo Lammerts wrote:


indeed very well done.

2011/12/7 Marsel van der Wielenmar...@nomorewords.net:

1st cd out of 4 (!)
A very nice job done by Clone!


- Reply message -
Van: Patrick Wacherpwac...@gmail.com
Aan:313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.
Datum: di, dec. 6, 2011 22:47


Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

Tracklisting

   01 Welcome To Drexciya
   02 Wavejumper
   03 Lardossen Funk
   04 Bubble Metropolis
   05 Hydro Theory
   06 Beyond The Abyss
   07 Unknown Journey
   08 Aquarazorda
   09 Rubick's Cube
   10 Sea Quake
   11 Take Your Mind
   12 Darthouven Fish Men
   13 Dehydration


Peace,
Patrick.



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RE: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Odeluga, Ken
The fact remains many have never heard / do not own: 

Welcome To Drexciya
Aquarazorda
Take Your Mind
Dehydration
Lardossen Funk
Sea Quake
Darthouven Fish Men

[Including me and I think you all know how obsessed with Drexciya I am.]

This sort of exercise can never go wrong, from a grand pa's point of view.

Ken

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From: Marsel van der Wielen [mailto:mar...@nomorewords.net] 
Sent: 07 December 2011 09:40
To: Three-One-Three
Subject: Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.


yeah compilations of released stuff
and/but still unclear if there also will be unreleased stuff

all re-mastered -
that will be 4xcd, and 4x 2xlp

Op 7-12-2011 10:37, Placid schreef:
 just to get it straight, these arent represses are they..more of a 
 compilation of tracks from various eps and lps

 I tohught at one point they were going to just repress them as they appeared 
 originally...


 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:35, Emile Facey wrote:

 There's a double vinyl pack coming too.


 On 7 Dec 2011, at 06:06, Wibo Lammerts wrote:

 indeed very well done.

 2011/12/7 Marsel van der Wielenmar...@nomorewords.net:
 1st cd out of 4 (!)
 A very nice job done by Clone!


 - Reply message -
 Van: Patrick Wacherpwac...@gmail.com
 Aan:313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.
 Datum: di, dec. 6, 2011 22:47


 Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
 available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

 Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

 Tracklisting

01 Welcome To Drexciya
02 Wavejumper
03 Lardossen Funk
04 Bubble Metropolis
05 Hydro Theory
06 Beyond The Abyss
07 Unknown Journey
08 Aquarazorda
09 Rubick's Cube
10 Sea Quake
11 Take Your Mind
12 Darthouven Fish Men
13 Dehydration


 Peace,
 Patrick.


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Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Marsel van der Wielen


well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
and can depend on which system the music is played after (home 
headphones vs 100k stadium)




Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:


all re-mastered -


 A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound 
better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally 
was


Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been 
remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi 
end clarity


here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

just thinking...




Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Emile Facey
As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his  
mastering process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques  
have definitely come a long way since some of this stuff was released  
originally but not everyone will agree that they've got better. He's  
normally a really good engineer though and the clips sound great to me.


One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in  
one session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more  
consistent sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because  
a lot of them were released on different labels, most of these 12s  
were mastered by different engineers at different cutting sessions  
and that as a result all the records sound a bit different, well at  
least to my ears, they do.


07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or  
seen on any original releases.




On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:



well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
and can depend on which system the music is played after (home  
headphones vs 100k stadium)




Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:


all re-mastered -


 A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to  
sound better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it  
originally was


Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had  
been remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked  
mids and hi end clarity


here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

just thinking...






Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread JT Stewart
Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
quality, Emile...

I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
bad way...

I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

jt

On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
 As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his mastering
 process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have definitely
 come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but not
 everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really good
 engineer though and the clips sound great to me.

 One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in one
 session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
 sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them were
 released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by different
 engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the records
 sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.

 07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or seen
 on any original releases.




 On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:


 well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)

 but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
 and can depend on which system the music is played after (home headphones
 vs 100k stadium)



 Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:


 all re-mastered -


  A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
 better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally
 was

 Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
 remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi end
 clarity

 here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/

 just thinking...





Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-07 Thread Jeff Davis
As long as Alden doesn't remaster it all Black box / Italo style, it should
be good
On Dec 7, 2011 3:43 PM, JT Stewart etmach...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great point about the mastering perhaps giving a more consistent
 quality, Emile...

 I hadn't been so interested in actually listening to the comp, since I
 know it all already, until you guys reminded me about the
 remastering...It'll be interesting to hear how esp. certain tracks
 might sound better/different -- Wavejumper  The Countdown Has Begun
 come to mind off the top of my head, the 909 in the originals is so
 punchy and I think that record is kinda crusty, in a good way and in a
 bad way...

 I think some stuff could really benefit in some ways but maybe others
 might lose some specialness, even if they sound technically better,
 I'm pretty curious now...Especially I think where Ron Murphy was
 involved, it'll be interesting to hear the difference because it's
 bound to be pretty different...Everything he mastered (like
 Wavejumper/UR-030) had his touch, a bit of wildness that fit the music
 so well..On the other hand, it wasn't always a 100% success...;)

 jt

 On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Emile Facey em...@bleep43.com wrote:
  As Marsel says, it'll depend on what Alden Tyrell has done in his
 mastering
  process, and if it's to your taste. Mastering techniques have definitely
  come a long way since some of this stuff was released originally but not
  everyone will agree that they've got better. He's normally a really good
  engineer though and the clips sound great to me.
 
  One thing that might be interesting is that remastering everything in one
  session from the original tapes might give the tracks a more consistent
  sound. I don't know for sure but I'd imagine that because a lot of them
 were
  released on different labels, most of these 12s were mastered by
 different
  engineers at different cutting sessions and that as a result all the
 records
  sound a bit different, well at least to my ears, they do.
 
  07 UNKNOWN JOURNEY is definitely something I've never heard before or
 seen
  on any original releases.
 
 
 
 
  On 7 Dec 2011, at 09:48, Marsel van der Wielen wrote:
 
 
  well, mastering is meant to have it sound better :-)
 
  but it's always personal judgement if it does of course
  and can depend on which system the music is played after (home
 headphones
  vs 100k stadium)
 
 
 
  Op 7-12-2011 10:45, Placid schreef:
 
 
  all re-mastered -
 
 
   A quick question.  Does remastering actually man its going to sound
  better.  What if the technique they use isn't as good as it originally
  was
 
  Going back to a post a few months back on how the trax stuff had been
  remastered to sound great on big sound systems but lacked mids and hi
 end
  clarity
 
  here - http://www.offmodern.com/2011/06/revisionist-house/
 
  just thinking...
 
 
 



(313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-06 Thread Patrick Wacher
Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

Tracklisting

   01 Welcome To Drexciya
   02 Wavejumper
   03 Lardossen Funk
   04 Bubble Metropolis
   05 Hydro Theory
   06 Beyond The Abyss
   07 Unknown Journey
   08 Aquarazorda
   09 Rubick's Cube
   10 Sea Quake
   11 Take Your Mind
   12 Darthouven Fish Men
   13 Dehydration


Peace,
Patrick.


Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-06 Thread Wibo Lammerts
I thought I read somewhere it was Dexter who did the remastering, but
I could be mistaken...

2011/12/6 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com:
 Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
 available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

 Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

 Tracklisting

    01 Welcome To Drexciya
    02 Wavejumper
    03 Lardossen Funk
    04 Bubble Metropolis
    05 Hydro Theory
    06 Beyond The Abyss
    07 Unknown Journey
    08 Aquarazorda
    09 Rubick's Cube
    10 Sea Quake
    11 Take Your Mind
    12 Darthouven Fish Men
    13 Dehydration


 Peace,
 Patrick.



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Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-06 Thread Ivan Tomasevic


no, it was definitely Alden Tyrell.

On Tue, 6 Dec 2011, Wibo Lammerts wrote:


I thought I read somewhere it was Dexter who did the remastering, but
I could be mistaken...

2011/12/6 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com:

Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

Tracklisting

   01 Welcome To Drexciya
   02 Wavejumper
   03 Lardossen Funk
   04 Bubble Metropolis
   05 Hydro Theory
   06 Beyond The Abyss
   07 Unknown Journey
   08 Aquarazorda
   09 Rubick's Cube
   10 Sea Quake
   11 Take Your Mind
   12 Darthouven Fish Men
   13 Dehydration


Peace,
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Re: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.

2011-12-06 Thread Wibo Lammerts
indeed very well done.

2011/12/7 Marsel van der Wielen mar...@nomorewords.net:
 1st cd out of 4 (!)
 A very nice job done by Clone!


 - Reply message -
 Van: Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: (313) Drexciya re-issue/compilation available now.
 Datum: di, dec. 6, 2011 22:47


 Just saw on Clone's site that the Drexciya re-issue CD is now
 available: http://clone.nl/item21961.html

 Remastered from the original tapes by Alden Tyrell (AFAIK)

 Tracklisting

    01 Welcome To Drexciya
    02 Wavejumper
    03 Lardossen Funk
    04 Bubble Metropolis
    05 Hydro Theory
    06 Beyond The Abyss
    07 Unknown Journey
    08 Aquarazorda
    09 Rubick's Cube
    10 Sea Quake
    11 Take Your Mind
    12 Darthouven Fish Men
    13 Dehydration


 Peace,
 Patrick.



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