(313) Hawtin Bashing
So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself. Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those message threads? So who is everyone arguing with? I'd be way more interested in people talking up how great Shake is (for example) over how much they hate Richie Hawtin and his rockstar lifestyle. Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion, marketing and running a business? I can think of a lot of Detroit musicians working day jobs who would be where Richie is if they had his non-musical skills.
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 at 19:21, Kent Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself. Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those message threads? So who is everyone arguing with? They can argue with me. Bring it on. You know, 2 months ago, I was in Barcelona during Sonar week. The nighttime Sonar events were sold out, so I went to Nitza to see Ellen Allien Apparat live. I went early and there was no one there. Eventually, by 2 AM the crowd had swelled up to hundreds. I sat along the side of the open hall, not knowing a soul. I was pretty down at the time. I'd gone through a horrific breakup last November, and I still haven't recovered from it. And here I was, in my favorite city in the world, and I didn't know a single soul in the whole building. 5 minutes later, I catch a blur start to walk swiftly past me. It suddenly stops on a dime, turns and says Hey, what're you doing here?. I said Hey Rich ... nice to see a familiar face! But aren't you playing tonight? Shouldn't I ask you that same question?!? He says I came by to say hi to Ellen. Are you coming over later [to Sonar Noche]? No, I can't ... it's sold out, that's why I came here. Oh! Well hey, we're leaving in a few minutes, why don't you hop in the van with us? Tim (Price) will get you a pass, we'll hook you up And with that, I was off to Sonar. I got to watch Ryan Elliott kill it from sidestage outside at the Sonar Pub, and then watch Rich Ricardo have a blast doing the tag-team thing. I had a total blast myself. I cannot thank Rich and Tim (and Tosh!) enough for all the fun I had that night. It was the highlight of my trip. He doesn't surround himself with sycophants; he surrounds himself with people like Tim Price (a fun drunk if there ever was one) and our own Tosh Cooey, his Webmaster, who may still sneak a peak in at this list once in awhile. He has been nothing but unrelentingly nice to me ever since I first introduced myself back in 1999 or whenever it was; and he has no reason to be - I am the definition of a Nobody, I have nothing to offer him other than hopefully interesting conversations and fan appreciation/loyalty. He has provided some of the most wonderful moments of my clubbing life, and I feel he deserves my loyalty. I continue to enjoy his music and DJ'ing, and if you don't, well, that's fine - I do, and that's all I care about. You can all spout off all you want about Rich, I don't care. All I know is that I know someone different from the target you spew all your cr*p about, and life is too short for me to worry about Haters. I'd rather be a positive person and a positive influence than a negative Hater any day. - Greg
Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing
Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion, marketing and running a business? hah! sounds like to a lot of people, hawtin is the madonna of techno. d.
Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing
On 8/24/06, Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can all spout off all you want about Rich, I don't care. All I know is that I know someone different from the target you spew all your cr*p about i bet joe stalin kissed his kids good night. what does that mean? nothing. a public person's persona is what they get judged on, surely richie is astute enough to understand that. which means he chooses to be portrayed as he is. which is why he's a great target. and life is too short for me to worry about Haters. I'd rather be a positive person and a positive influence than a negative Hater any day. being called a hater makes me more resolute in my calling out suckers. im not a hater, i just speak the truth. tmo
Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing
On a more positive vibe then - Orlando Voorn has a new release on Hertz records (a new label, possibly from Belgium) and it's the best thing he's done in aeons- emotional techno? THIS is emotional techno- pure cyber-funk with classic OV honking FM sounds and a spacious feel to the synth lines- one side even has some crazy disco stabs seamlessly integrated with the electronic noise-fest. Jason On 25 Aug 2006, at 01:21, kent williams wrote: So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself. Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those message threads? So who is everyone arguing with? I'd be way more interested in people talking up how great Shake is (for example) over how much they hate Richie Hawtin and his rockstar lifestyle. Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion, marketing and running a business? I can think of a lot of Detroit musicians working day jobs who would be where Richie is if they had his non-musical skills.
RE: (313) Hawtin Bashing
Hey J. Cheers for the heads up, I'll check it out. Ive always liked his stuff. -Original Message- From: Jason Brunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2006 09:28 To: kent williams Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Hawtin Bashing On a more positive vibe then - Orlando Voorn has a new release on Hertz records (a new label, possibly from Belgium) and it's the best thing he's done in aeons- emotional techno? THIS is emotional techno- pure cyber-funk with classic OV honking FM sounds and a spacious feel to the synth lines- one side even has some crazy disco stabs seamlessly integrated with the electronic noise-fest. Jason On 25 Aug 2006, at 01:21, kent williams wrote: So far it's entertaining, but stop when you start repeating yourself. Anyone besides me notice that no one defended Richie in those message threads? So who is everyone arguing with? I'd be way more interested in people talking up how great Shake is (for example) over how much they hate Richie Hawtin and his rockstar lifestyle. Or people talking about his genius for self-promotion, marketing and running a business? I can think of a lot of Detroit musicians working day jobs who would be where Richie is if they had his non-musical skills.
