(313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
Cyclone Wehner wrote: I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? eddie fowlkes used the term techno soul (for instance: http://www.discogs.com/release/98913) the term high tech soul has been used by dutch dj dimitri since the early 90ies for his club night hi-tech soul movement. at infamous Amsterdam nightclub roxy: *) here's a mix cd under that name: http://www.discogs.com/release/280642 i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=20055 ) m.i.a. - schoolcraft bump, to me is a perfect example of the hi-tech funk sound. *) derrick may (and others) spent a lot of time in amsterdam in the early 90ies, and had close ties to both dimitri as well as to another dutch dj named marcello (they even made a record together on 100% pure (not derrick's best record imo) and both get name checked in the sleeve note's to c2's landcruising lp). derrick may probably played one or more times on dimitri's night at the roxy. jurren
Re: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update)
to extend/clarify the * both derrick may and stacey pullen lived for a year in amsterdam, aroudn 93/94 and indeed hang out a lot with dimitri/outland posse (en voor de echte details... geldersekade no 6) - Original Message - From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update) Cyclone Wehner wrote: I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? eddie fowlkes used the term techno soul (for instance: http://www.discogs.com/release/98913) the term high tech soul has been used by dutch dj dimitri since the early 90ies for his club night hi-tech soul movement. at infamous Amsterdam nightclub roxy: *) here's a mix cd under that name: http://www.discogs.com/release/280642 i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=20055 ) m.i.a. - schoolcraft bump, to me is a perfect example of the hi-tech funk sound. *) derrick may (and others) spent a lot of time in amsterdam in the early 90ies, and had close ties to both dimitri as well as to another dutch dj named marcello (they even made a record together on 100% pure (not derrick's best record imo) and both get name checked in the sleeve note's to c2's landcruising lp). derrick may probably played one or more times on dimitri's night at the roxy. jurren
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Isn't that when he released that 'collaboration' with DJ Cello? Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 October 2006 16:04 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update) to extend/clarify the * both derrick may and stacey pullen lived for a year in amsterdam, aroudn 93/94 and indeed hang out a lot with dimitri/outland posse (en voor de echte details... geldersekade no 6) - Original Message - From: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: (313) high tech soul (was: Re: (313) DM Update) Cyclone Wehner wrote: I am pretty certain Eddie Fowlkes started using it, or has. Derrick hasn't claimed to start it, he just likes it. I believe I've seen it elsewhere too - probably in relation to UR. I have to confess I haven't seen the whole doc yet, perhaps there will be some illumination there? eddie fowlkes used the term techno soul (for instance: http://www.discogs.com/release/98913) the term high tech soul has been used by dutch dj dimitri since the early 90ies for his club night hi-tech soul movement. at infamous Amsterdam nightclub roxy: *) here's a mix cd under that name: http://www.discogs.com/release/280642 i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=Robid=20055 ) m.i.a. - schoolcraft bump, to me is a perfect example of the hi-tech funk sound. *) derrick may (and others) spent a lot of time in amsterdam in the early 90ies, and had close ties to both dimitri as well as to another dutch dj named marcello (they even made a record together on 100% pure (not derrick's best record imo) and both get name checked in the sleeve note's to c2's landcruising lp). derrick may probably played one or more times on dimitri's night at the roxy. jurren # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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I guess this is probably what I'm thinking of. Not doing well in the past couple of days am I? Pass me the 313 dummy hat. i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance
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UR also obviously use the term hi tech jazz. jazz=soul=funk though, right? tom On 10/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess this is probably what I'm thinking of. Not doing well in the past couple of days am I? Pass me the 313 dummy hat. i don't remember UR ever using the term (however, there are plenty of UR releases you could file under the term high-tech soul imho), they did however use the term hi-tech funk (check the label of this release for instance
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Who was the director of this movie? From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/18/2006 2:25 PM To: Jason Trolian; Dan Bean; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD What the f*** is wrong with criticising a film we've seen? I saw it and am entitled to an opinion. I'm not going to blindly accept whatever I see without criticising it just because of the subject matter - that would be ridiculous. It WAS shoddy - badly put together, badly edited, badly and inconsistently lit. Nothing wrong with pointing this out as it affects one's enjoyment of the film. I don't think the fimmaker knew what he was doing or knew anything about the subject. Just as they were about to explore something interesting (eg the demise of industry in Detroit), it moved onto something else less interesting. The interviews were ineptly handled and the subjects cames across as less articulate than I have seen in other documentaries. There's other things that p***ed me off about the film but that's enough cos otherwise I shall be called the ridiculous word 'hater' Plus points - just seeing our heroes talk about something they clearly love. Er, that's about it. -Original Message- From: Jason Trolian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2006 12:05 To: 'Dan Bean'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Now we're movie critics? Might come as a shocker to some but Scorsese and Stone turned down the opportunity to direct or even fund Hi Tech Soul. Are some of us that self righteous and petty that we must cut down everything that is attempting to make a difference? Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here). If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo
(313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD
HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, and Kwame Kilpatrick. http://www.hightechsoul.com also look out for Submerge: Live In Japan DVD
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I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, and Kwame Kilpatrick. http://www.hightechsoul.com also look out for Submerge: Live In Japan DVD
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Apparently it has been re-edited - there was another showing at Cargo at Sunday that some people went to - still not up to scratch though from the reports I've heard. Very disappointing film but I did enjoy Blake Baxter beatboxing :) -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2006 11:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, and Kwame Kilpatrick. http://www.hightechsoul.com also look out for Submerge: Live In Japan DVD # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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It was shoddy and amateurish. It what way Dan? Care to go into a bit more detail? Scan 7 look ace and I kinda figured that may just bring a few new people into the music...It surely can't be that bad, can it? Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. Universal Techno, will still take a lot of beating.. m
RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD
Now we're movie critics? Might come as a shocker to some but Scorsese and Stone turned down the opportunity to direct or even fund Hi Tech Soul. Are some of us that self righteous and petty that we must cut down everything that is attempting to make a difference? Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here). If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, and Kwame Kilpatrick. http://www.hightechsoul.com also look out for Submerge: Live In Japan DVD
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warning: I have not seen the movie, so I will not address its content. On Jul 18, 2006, at 8:05, Jason Trolian wrote: Now we're movie critics? I don't see a reason why anyone who watches a movie should NOT criticize it. Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Documentaries can be shoddy, yes. They can present 100% fact and still be boring, trite, childish, sloppy, repetitive, or disorganized. Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here).If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I wouldn't call Scratch shoddy in the least. One time I saw a very interesting student documentary on moonshine, right before a meandering and pointless documentary on Marlene Dietrich. Both of these were completely factual! There was no interpretation given of the material, but the simple act of editing a film in a coherent manner makes it watchable or unwatchable. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. Low budgets never excuse shoddy workmanship. Pi was done on a low budget. The Stone Reader was done on leftover film and spare time the director had from shooting nature documentaries. Both of these films are incredibly dorky, but they're coherent. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. And if the movie is lousy, then it won't help! So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Dan just did. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk || mkbwriu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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What the f*** is wrong with criticising a film we've seen? I saw it and am entitled to an opinion. I'm not going to blindly accept whatever I see without criticising it just because of the subject matter - that would be ridiculous. It WAS shoddy - badly put together, badly edited, badly and inconsistently lit. Nothing wrong with pointing this out as it affects one's enjoyment of the film. I don't think the fimmaker knew what he was doing or knew anything about the subject. Just as they were about to explore something interesting (eg the demise of industry in Detroit), it moved onto something else less interesting. The interviews were ineptly handled and the subjects cames across as less articulate than I have seen in other documentaries. There's other things that p***ed me off about the film but that's enough cos otherwise I shall be called the ridiculous word 'hater' Plus points - just seeing our heroes talk about something they clearly love. Er, that's about it. -Original Message- From: Jason Trolian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2006 12:05 To: 'Dan Bean'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Now we're movie critics? Might come as a shocker to some but Scorsese and Stone turned down the opportunity to direct or even fund Hi Tech Soul. Are some of us that self righteous and petty that we must cut down everything that is attempting to make a difference? Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here). If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, and Kwame Kilpatrick. http://www.hightechsoul.com also look out for Submerge: Live In Japan DVD
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i saw it last week was ok / fun, but didn't bring any new info/insights for me, it is most (too much) concentrated about juan atkins, derrick may and kevin saunderson i think it could had been done better to take the whole UR, mad mike, jeff mills things as well then it had been much more complete imho as the above three is more 'part 1' to me now carl craig and jeff mills more comment from a sideline no robert hood, no burden bros the director (who was also there last week) is from detroit and grew up going out early 90ties - Original Message - From: Jason Trolian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Dan Bean' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Now we're movie critics? Might come as a shocker to some but Scorsese and Stone turned down the opportunity to direct or even fund Hi Tech Soul. Are some of us that self righteous and petty that we must cut down everything that is attempting to make a difference? Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here). If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, and Kwame Kilpatrick. http://www.hightechsoul.com also look out for Submerge: Live In Japan DVD
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Some interesting points and views but I'm still going to get it :) It's a shame if it hasn't worked out as we all could have hoped. I'll tell you what tho, if Dan Sicko ever has a go at doing a documentary I'd edit that for free, they are so hard to edit but I'd put my head on the block, there's a real art to it and how you condense the story of techno down to 1.5hrs would keep me awake at night... Dan, I can't reply to your mail cos for some reason your mail bounces back with a 550 error m
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If you want to compare and contrast - look at the Sheffield documentary - well made, great interviews, etc etc - everything that Hi Tech Soul wasn't -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 July 2006 12:39 To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Some interesting points and views but I'm still going to get it :) It's a shame if it hasn't worked out as we all could have hoped. I'll tell you what tho, if Dan Sicko ever has a go at doing a documentary I'd edit that for free, they are so hard to edit but I'd put my head on the block, there's a real art to it and how you condense the story of techno down to 1.5hrs would keep me awake at night... Dan, I can't reply to your mail cos for some reason your mail bounces back with a 550 error m # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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On 18 Jul 2006, at 14:43, Robert Taylor wrote: If you want to compare and contrast - look at the Sheffield documentary - well made, great interviews, etc etc - everything that Hi Tech Soul wasn't Right, thanks Rob...Although I will say that Sheffield Doc missed out a ton of stuff but it was good to watch and perhaps only need a little more music m
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I saw the re-edited version on Sunday, and the director's q+a session afterwards. I didn't see the film last year, when the response from everyone I know was overwhelmingly negative, but I didn't find it a bad film at all. It did have a very rough and ready feel (bad lighting, lots of shaky camera work), but the flow worked quite well (presumably the result of the re-edit). It's defnitely true that it never went into much depth though, and did concentrate almost entirely on the Belleville 3 (plus quite a bit with Eddie Fowlkes). The director was challenged on this afterwards, asked why there was little to no footage with the likes of C2 etc, and his response was that he wanted to highlight the roots of the sound, and that to expand on the second and third generations would take too much time and allow less depth on the subject. I feel it would have been better to include more of the later artists though, particularly since they gave a lot of screen time to Spectral and Plus 8 but almost none to other local labels. Which brings me onto my one real major criticism of the film - I thought the music chosen was really weak. Apart from the obvious backdrops of No Ufo's, Strings of Life and Big Fun, a lot of the scoring was really dull, and all the club footage seemed to be focusing on straight, loopy material, with very little variety. A shame for a project which should be so clearly music led. Overall, it's a nice enough work with plenty of amusing footage, but I don't think it'll hold any surprises for those already into this music (the best new thing I learned from it is that Belleville is the home of the reknowned Strawberry Festival ;-), and perhaps it lacks that extra passion needed to turn new people onto this sound...
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Matt has addressed most of the points I would have made in response to Jason's post, but I would add the following: Such a film acts as a cultural ambassador for Detroit, its people and its music. For some people it will be their first exposure to the music, ideas and personalities involved. I find it extremely frustrating that at this important first encounter Detroit is being represented by such a sub-standard effort. Why should we cut the film some slack? The film-makers blew it, and pretending otherwise doesn't help anyone or achieve anything. Dan. P.S. If you want to know about the content, I can be be mostly summarised as badly shot, poorly lit gossip. The interviewer(s) totally failed to reach any depth with the subjects. Sure, hearing about Kevin knocking Derrick out is funny, but it's not really what it's all about is it? Now we're movie critics? Might come as a shocker to some but Scorsese and Stone turned down the opportunity to direct or even fund Hi Tech Soul. Are some of us that self righteous and petty that we must cut down everything that is attempting to make a difference? Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here). If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl, Sam Valenti, Ron Murphy, George Baker, and Kwame Kilpatrick. http://www.hightechsoul.com also look out for Submerge: Live In Japan DVD
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Although i havent seen the film its frustrating, especially after seeing the French documentary recently and feeling it was over halfway there barring a few shortcomings that this documentary doesn't seem to have addressed. What we really need is a BBC funded 6 part documentary based on techno rebels with some money behind it! Stu - Original Message - From: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: RE: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Matt has addressed most of the points I would have made in response to Jason's post, but I would add the following: Such a film acts as a cultural ambassador for Detroit, its people and its music. For some people it will be their first exposure to the music, ideas and personalities involved. I find it extremely frustrating that at this important first encounter Detroit is being represented by such a sub-standard effort. Why should we cut the film some slack? The film-makers blew it, and pretending otherwise doesn't help anyone or achieve anything. Dan. P.S. If you want to know about the content, I can be be mostly summarised as badly shot, poorly lit gossip. The interviewer(s) totally failed to reach any depth with the subjects. Sure, hearing about Kevin knocking Derrick out is funny, but it's not really what it's all about is it? Now we're movie critics? Might come as a shocker to some but Scorsese and Stone turned down the opportunity to direct or even fund Hi Tech Soul. Are some of us that self righteous and petty that we must cut down everything that is attempting to make a difference? Outside this list most of the world knows nothing about Detroit, it's influence on Electronica or the people that made it happen. You are going to criticize a documentary calling it shoddy? Really, name one that isn't kind of shoddy (please don't you dare reference a Michael Moore documentary here). If you must wage an attack on what I will call reference material, then do so because it fails to provide facts or because it is biased. I personally haven't had the opportunity to see it. I personally can't wait. When I do see it I will take it for what it's worth...a low budget film. I will take what I can learn from it and pump it to all these kids that think this music culture is about drugs, fashion and who's been to more parties. So I ask, can anyone that has seen this film tell us about the content? Jason Trolian -Original Message- From: Dan Bean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:03 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) HIGH TECH SOUL DVD I (and some people on this list) went to see this film in London last year. It was shoddy and amateurish. Maybe they've totally re-shot and re-edited it since then... And for the record, it's not the first film to 'tackle the deep roots of techno music'. You wrote: HIGH TECH SOUL DVD Directed by Gary Bredow, HIGH TECH SOUL is the first film to to tackle the deep roots of techno music and the city that spawned it: Detroit. With Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson and many more. Bredow's cast of alumni -- the holy trinity of Atkins, May and Saunderson at the front -- fill out this tale with passion, pride and, oddly for music of the future, nostalgia too. - Dazed Confused HIGH TECH SOUL is the first documentary to tackle the deep roots of techno music alongside the cultural history of Detroit, its birthplace. From the race riots of 1967 to the underground party scene of the late 1980s, Detroit's economic downturn didn't stop the invention of a new kind of music that brought international attention to its producers and their hometown. Featuring in-depth interviews with many of the world's best exponents of the artform, High Tech Soul focuses on the creators of the genre -- Juan Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson -- and looks at the relationships and personal struggles behind the music. Artists like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig, Eddie Fowlkes and a host of others explain why techno, with its abrasive tones and resonating basslines, could not have come from anywhere but Detroit. With classic anthems such as Rhythim Is Rhythim's Strings of Life and Inner City's Good Life, High Tech Soul celebrates the pioneers, the promoters and the city that spawned a global phenomenon. Soundtrack Includes: Aux 88, Cybotron, Inner City, Juan Atkins, Mayday, Model 500, Plastikman, Rhythim Is Rhythim, and more! The film features: Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, Eddie (Flashin) Fowlkes, Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills, John Acquaviva, Carl Cox, Carl Craig, Blake Baxter, Stacey Pullen, Thomas Barnett, Matthew Dear, Anthony Shake Shakir, Keith Tucker, Delano Smith, Mike Archer, Derrick Thompson, Mike Clark, Alan Oldham, Laura Gavoor, Himawari, Scan 7, Kenny Larkin, Stacey Hotwax Hale, Claus Bachor, Electrifying Mojo, Niko Marks, Barbara Deyo, Dan Sordyl
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Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
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I've seen it. I wasn't impressed... On 11 Apr 2006, at 00:02, Joost P wrote: Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
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What do you feel was wrong with it Dan? m On 11 Apr 2006, at 07:40, Dan Bean wrote: I've seen it. I wasn't impressed... On 11 Apr 2006, at 00:02, Joost P wrote: Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
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What do you feel was wrong with it Dan? Pretty much everything I'm afraid. It was badly shot, recorded and edited, poorly presented and was full of inconsequential gossip that made the participants look trivial and irrelevant. I realise that it was an indie production/labour of love etc. I'd love to cut the makers some slack, but in this case they really did a shoddy job. This annoyed me because there are a limited number of times such films can be made, each time it's done badly it's a lost opportunity to inform an audience outside of the 'scene'. They made Detroit look sh*t, which is quite an achievement.
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High tech Soul is a timeless definition of Electronic music with funk, Soul,Jazz, dance ... elements... No question about Nostalgia or whatever... Its sometimes good to remember from where we are coming, what happened before to create the present situation and will create the future... Even if a lot of people disagree or don't want to see that...Our life is a complex mix between the past, present and a view of future... Remember of our roots is not necessary nostalgia, but a way to understand what we do, why , and prepare the future. Fabrice Lig From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:44:31 +0100 What do you feel was wrong with it Dan? m On 11 Apr 2006, at 07:40, Dan Bean wrote: I've seen it. I wasn't impressed... On 11 Apr 2006, at 00:02, Joost P wrote: Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
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I think Dan had more of a problem with the film rather than ideas surrounding Hi-Tech Soul? I think so, but I'm sure he'll say for himself in a while! -Original Message- From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2006 11:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul High tech Soul is a timeless definition of Electronic music with funk, Soul,Jazz, dance ... elements... No question about Nostalgia or whatever... Its sometimes good to remember from where we are coming, what happened before to create the present situation and will create the future... Even if a lot of people disagree or don't want to see that...Our life is a complex mix between the past, present and a view of future... Remember of our roots is not necessary nostalgia, but a way to understand what we do, why , and prepare the future. Fabrice Lig From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:44:31 +0100 What do you feel was wrong with it Dan? m On 11 Apr 2006, at 07:40, Dan Bean wrote: I've seen it. I wasn't impressed... On 11 Apr 2006, at 00:02, Joost P wrote: Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
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Possible, in this case, I can't tell u what I think as I didn't see the movie...Of course thats an important element, if a movie is done about Detroit music , it has to be good and closest as possible as the reality...I agree. I just think than Detroit Music is too much assimilated to Nostalgia...More than Roots, or Beginning of something...more positive idea than nostalgia. This year, in Europe, we celebrated Mozart, and I can tell you, even if I'm not a big fan of Classic Music, I never felt than there was a taste of Nostalgia, was more like an happy celebration...Why can't the people always talk about electronic music begining with Nostalgia...We have to see that as a chance, and a gift to develop for the future, but also to appreciate in the present time. Fabrice From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:29:46 +0100 I think Dan had more of a problem with the film rather than ideas surrounding Hi-Tech Soul? I think so, but I'm sure he'll say for himself in a while! -Original Message- From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2006 11:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul High tech Soul is a timeless definition of Electronic music with funk, Soul,Jazz, dance ... elements... No question about Nostalgia or whatever... Its sometimes good to remember from where we are coming, what happened before to create the present situation and will create the future... Even if a lot of people disagree or don't want to see that...Our life is a complex mix between the past, present and a view of future... Remember of our roots is not necessary nostalgia, but a way to understand what we do, why , and prepare the future. Fabrice Lig From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:44:31 +0100 What do you feel was wrong with it Dan? m On 11 Apr 2006, at 07:40, Dan Bean wrote: I've seen it. I wasn't impressed... On 11 Apr 2006, at 00:02, Joost P wrote: Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
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Wise words. Trying to pull myself out of a nostalgia driven, I think i'll go out and buy myself a money pit of a classic car, ooh do you remember the time? Conversation led, midlife crisis. Not good, and looking to the future and enjoying the now, is a definate improvement. Any one seen V FOR VENDETTA? On 11/4/06 11:39 am, fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possible, in this case, I can't tell u what I think as I didn't see the movie...Of course thats an important element, if a movie is done about Detroit music , it has to be good and closest as possible as the reality...I agree. I just think than Detroit Music is too much assimilated to Nostalgia...More than Roots, or Beginning of something...more positive idea than nostalgia. This year, in Europe, we celebrated Mozart, and I can tell you, even if I'm not a big fan of Classic Music, I never felt than there was a taste of Nostalgia, was more like an happy celebration...Why can't the people always talk about electronic music begining with Nostalgia...We have to see that as a chance, and a gift to develop for the future, but also to appreciate in the present time. Fabrice From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:29:46 +0100 I think Dan had more of a problem with the film rather than ideas surrounding Hi-Tech Soul? I think so, but I'm sure he'll say for himself in a while! -Original Message- From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2006 11:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul High tech Soul is a timeless definition of Electronic music with funk, Soul,Jazz, dance ... elements... No question about Nostalgia or whatever... Its sometimes good to remember from where we are coming, what happened before to create the present situation and will create the future... Even if a lot of people disagree or don't want to see that...Our life is a complex mix between the past, present and a view of future... Remember of our roots is not necessary nostalgia, but a way to understand what we do, why , and prepare the future. Fabrice Lig From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:44:31 +0100 What do you feel was wrong with it Dan? m On 11 Apr 2006, at 07:40, Dan Bean wrote: I've seen it. I wasn't impressed... On 11 Apr 2006, at 00:02, Joost P wrote: Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
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- Original Message - From: Ben Thompson Wise words. Trying to pull myself out of a nostalgia driven, I think i'll go out and buy myself a money pit of a classic car, ooh do you remember the time? Conversation led, midlife crisis. The time? Time to buy an Avanti. Not good, and looking to the future and enjoying the now, is a definate improvement. Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you. http://www.satchelpaige.com/quote2.html Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. On 11/4/06 11:39 am, fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possible, in this case, I can't tell u what I think as I didn't see the movie...Of course thats an important element, if a movie is done about Detroit music , it has to be good and closest as possible as the reality...I agree. I just think than Detroit Music is too much assimilated to Nostalgia...More than Roots, or Beginning of something...more positive idea than nostalgia. This year, in Europe, we celebrated Mozart, and I can tell you, even if I'm not a big fan of Classic Music, I never felt than there was a taste of Nostalgia, was more like an happy celebration...Why can't the people always talk about electronic music begining with Nostalgia...We have to see that as a chance, and a gift to develop for the future, but also to appreciate in the present time. Fabrice From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fabrice Lig [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:29:46 +0100 I think Dan had more of a problem with the film rather than ideas surrounding Hi-Tech Soul? I think so, but I'm sure he'll say for himself in a while! -Original Message- From: fabrice Lig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 April 2006 11:24 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul High tech Soul is a timeless definition of Electronic music with funk, Soul,Jazz, dance ... elements... No question about Nostalgia or whatever... Its sometimes good to remember from where we are coming, what happened before to create the present situation and will create the future... Even if a lot of people disagree or don't want to see that...Our life is a complex mix between the past, present and a view of future... Remember of our roots is not necessary nostalgia, but a way to understand what we do, why , and prepare the future. Fabrice Lig From: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dan Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) High Tech Soul Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:44:31 +0100 What do you feel was wrong with it Dan? m On 11 Apr 2006, at 07:40, Dan Bean wrote: I've seen it. I wasn't impressed... On 11 Apr 2006, at 00:02, Joost P wrote: Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
(313) High Tech Soul
http://www.hightechsoulthemovie.com/ Anyone go to see this in the ICA cinema in central London? I couldn't make it due to work. Verdicts? ** The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that emails to, from and within RTÉ may be subject to the Freedom of Information Act 1997 and may be liable to disclosure. **
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http://www.hightechsoulthemovie.com/ Anyone go to see this in the ICA cinema in central London? I couldn't make it due to work. Verdicts? Pretty lame I'm afraid. Shabby footage, clumsy editing and terrible audio quality + Shallow anecdotal content. A missed opportunity.
(313) High Tech Soul - The real history of Detroit Techno
Have i missed something? Was this already discussed on here? http://www.glustudios.com
Re: (313) High Tech Soul - The real history of Detroit Techno
I think so, they showed a trailer at the Movement festival. They are cool people. I know there is one interview with a Detroit legend which is gonna shock people. ;) They have an amazing interview with Laura Gavoor which is really special. I think it'll be definitve. -- From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) High Tech Soul - The real history of Detroit Techno Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 1:42 AM Have i missed something? Was this already discussed on here? http://www.glustudios.com
Re: (313) High Tech Soul - The real history of Detroit Techno
- Original Message - From: Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: (313) High Tech Soul - The real history of Detroit Techno Have i missed something? Was this already discussed on here? http://www.glustudios.com Yeah. The Thursday before DEMF there was a free lunch (THERE IS SUCH A THING) with a few DJ exhibitions and lectures at the Detroit Historical Museum, and they showed the interview with Laura Gavoor and a few other interview clips unedited. It looks like it'll be great. Which reminds me, I never posted my DEMF write-up/pics, in which I went into more detail about the lunch thingy. Voila! http://www.phonopsia.co.uk/globdex.htm You can thank me for sanitizing it of the drunken shenanigans. ;) Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
