RE: (313) jambalaya Re: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
>> so I ask the mailing list: what's your favorite jambalaya recipe? do >> you have one? if not, you should. no person should go through life >> without sampling this treat of a foodstuff. Got this from a homie in New Orleans (the home of jambalaya - for those who don't know), it's the bomb: 3 lbs shrimp, butterflied and halved 1 lbs sausage 1 tbs oil 1 tbs butter 1 cup onion, chopped 1 cup green pepper, chopped 1/2 cup celery, chopped 2 bay leaves 1-16 oz can tomatoes 3 cloves garlic, crushed 1/4 cup parsley 2 cups stock 1/2 green onion 1 tps thyme 1 tps basil 1/8 tps cayenne 1 tps salt 1/2 tps chili powder 1 1/2 cup long grain rice 1/8 tps cloves 1/8 tps all spice Add oil and butter to stock pot. Add onion, pepper, garlic, and celery and sweat til soft. Add shrimp and cook til white. About 5 min. Remove shrimp, add sausage. Cook til sausage is ready (2 min). Add stock, tomatoes, bay leaves, parsley, thyme, basil cayenne, salt, cloves, all spice, chili powder and rice. Bring to boil, cover and cook under low heat for 20 mins. Add shrimp. Cook for 5 min and serve. The prep is kinda pain. Once you get past that, it is just like cooking rice. Enjoy with a glass of red wine and some Detroit techno. ;) _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008
(313) jambalaya Re: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
rob theakston wrote: i just had some killer jambalaya. for those of you who don't know what that is, it's a cajun dish closely linked to paella. you get some chicken, sausage, bunch of spices, some veggies, some rice (but not too much..be responsible! we have a shortage!) and put them all together in a pot and let that bad boy simmer. it's strong, but very enjoyable. i made some garlic bread with this...but a little bit of butter on it. then i got some lemonade, sliced up some limes and mixed them into the pitcher. it was a great summer lunch. while i was enjoying this dish on the patio, someone on the local college radio decided to play an hour of Wolfgang Voigt projects. Love Inc, Burger Ink, Gas, MI5, Wassermann, Allthey were all there. why am I sharing this? because i want to. i don't care if it's off topic. okay, you want some on topic related material? I thought about the Detroit Red Wings over lunch and how they came close to blowing it last night. There. There's some Detroit content. so I ask the mailing list: what's your favorite jambalaya recipe? do you have one? if not, you should. no person should go through life without sampling this treat of a foodstuff. thanks. I'm a vegetarian (practically a vegan), so my fave dish close to jambalaya is Moroccan Stew; my wife is making some as I type this, actually; many variations on it; so here is just one recipe for it here: http://www.culinarycafe.com/Soups-Stews/Rockin_Moroccan_Stew.html Andrew go Pittsburgh Pengiuns (Sidney Crosby grew up in Cole Harbor NS--about a 15 minute drive from where I'm typing this--his parents and sister still live here, and he visits regularly; have never met him, but he donates a lot of time and money to assist local sports, and that is cool by me) -- Andrew Duke--sound design/recording/composition/production courses: http://andrew-duke.com/course.html Andrew Duke--Chain Reaction downloadable sound FX samplepack: http://www.audiobase.com/product/SACR Andrew Duke--Consumer vs. User album: http://www.phthalo.com/cat.php?cat=phth40 Andrew Duke--columns/features/commentaries/more: http://cognitionaudioworks.com/read.html http://linkedin.com/in/AndrewDukeCognitionAudioworks http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew_Duke/852160229 http://myspace.com/AndrewDuke http://myspace.com/CognitionAudioworks
RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
Could the below have been some kind of spice induced hallucination? while i was enjoying this dish on the patio, someone on the local college radio decided to play an hour of Wolfgang Voigt projects. Love Inc, Burger Ink, Gas, MI5, Wassermann, Allthey were all there. [The entire original message is not included]
Re: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
i just had some killer jambalaya. for those of you who don't know what that is, it's a cajun dish closely linked to paella. you get some chicken, sausage, bunch of spices, some veggies, some rice (but not too much..be responsible! we have a shortage!) and put them all together in a pot and let that bad boy simmer. it's strong, but very enjoyable. i made some garlic bread with this...but a little bit of butter on it. then i got some lemonade, sliced up some limes and mixed them into the pitcher. it was a great summer lunch. while i was enjoying this dish on the patio, someone on the local college radio decided to play an hour of Wolfgang Voigt projects. Love Inc, Burger Ink, Gas, MI5, Wassermann, Allthey were all there. why am I sharing this? because i want to. i don't care if it's off topic. okay, you want some on topic related material? I thought about the Detroit Red Wings over lunch and how they came close to blowing it last night. There. There's some Detroit content. so I ask the mailing list: what's your favorite jambalaya recipe? do you have one? if not, you should. no person should go through life without sampling this treat of a foodstuff. thanks. go red wings. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For a second I thought to myself "aw man what does today's acquittal > of the cops who shot Sean Bell have to do with the 313 list??" and > thought you were inciting riots or something. Then I realized you > must just be referring to king's famous line "can't we all just get > along?" and that the overtone was just a coincidence. > > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:30 AM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some things about the recent thread: > > > > 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list > > is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't > > think that's controversial. > > > > 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. > > Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer > > position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, > > including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going > > to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably > > won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. > > > > 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's > > never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban > > people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in > > the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be > > a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without > > insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? > > Be a little more creative. > > > > 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a > > popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because > > I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his > > sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get > > attitude, it really gets up my nose. > > > > 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a > > means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad > > because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your > > anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write > > what you think and feel is everything. > > > > And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on > > this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for > > the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge > > is to think about the day he or she gets googled twenty years from now > > and they look like a tool. > > > > > > -- > peace, > > frank > > dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com >
Re: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
For a second I thought to myself "aw man what does today's acquittal of the cops who shot Sean Bell have to do with the 313 list??" and thought you were inciting riots or something. Then I realized you must just be referring to king's famous line "can't we all just get along?" and that the overtone was just a coincidence. On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:30 AM, kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Some things about the recent thread: > > 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list > is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't > think that's controversial. > > 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. > Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer > position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, > including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going > to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably > won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. > > 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's > never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban > people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in > the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be > a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without > insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? > Be a little more creative. > > 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a > popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because > I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his > sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get > attitude, it really gets up my nose. > > 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a > means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad > because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your > anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write > what you think and feel is everything. > > And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on > this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for > the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge > is to think about the day he or she gets googled twenty years from now > and they look like a tool. > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
A 19th century Weimar? The mind boggles Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2008 18:15 To: Robert Taylor; kent williams; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ... Come to think of it that outfit you wore at the BLOC weekend ... Did look a little 'Weimar' to me Photo's on the interweb folks ;-) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:16 PM To: kent williams; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ... OK OK, my Hitler comment was only a joke! ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2008 14:30 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ... Some things about the recent thread: 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't think that's controversial. 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? Be a little more creative. 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get attitude, it really gets up my nose. 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write what you think and feel is everything. And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge is to think about the day he or she gets googled twenty years from now and they look like a tool. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
Come to think of it that outfit you wore at the BLOC weekend ... Did look a little 'Weimar' to me Photo's on the interweb folks ;-) -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:16 PM To: kent williams; list 313 Subject: RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ... OK OK, my Hitler comment was only a joke! ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2008 14:30 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ... Some things about the recent thread: 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't think that's controversial. 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? Be a little more creative. 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get attitude, it really gets up my nose. 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write what you think and feel is everything. And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge is to think about the day he or she gets googled twenty years from now and they look like a tool. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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in the UK they call it "taking the piss". I don't really give a poop, just having a laugh. telepathic AFFECTION, the kooky scientist -- Original message -- From: "U&I Design" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wow, Kooky... > > I know Tom was guilty on the first account, as I remember when that > threat happened, but on the other 3 guilty verdicts... where did you > base your supporting evidence and where was the jury to define guilt > or innocence? > > I know here in America democracy is almost dead, but I thought we > still had a process where a guilty verdict is found through providing > evidence and having a group discussion determine guilt or innocence. > > Forgive me for bringing up the Hitler name again, but I think in this > situation, it smells a lot like the Death of a Democracy. Kook, I > know you've got long-standing beef with Tom, but try to at least put > some sort of evidence like you did in the first guilty verdict. It'll > make your argument a bit more viable and a bit less dictatorial > a**hole. > > Peace* > Jodie > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:02 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- Original message -- > > From: "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Some things about the recent thread: > > > > > > 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list > > > is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't > > > think that's controversial. > > > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > > Verdict: GUILTY > > > > 2 counts of threatening to physically attack Richie Hawtin and the Kooky > Scientist. > > The offer still stands Tom. Come put me out of my misery... > > > > 117 North St. > > Salem, MA > > (Where they burn Witches) > > > > > > > > > > 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. > > > Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer > > > position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, > > > including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going > > > to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably > > > won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. > > > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > > Verdict: GUILTY > > > > > > > > > > 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's > > > never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban > > > people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in > > > the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be > > > a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without > > > insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? > > > Be a little more creative. > > > > > > > Accused : Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > > Verdict: GUILTY > > > > My personal opinion is that it should be made MORE PERSONAL !!! > > > > > > > 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a > > > popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because > > > I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his > > > sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get > > > attitude, it really gets up my nose. > > > > > > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > > Verdict: GUILTY > > > > > > > > > 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a > > > means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad > > > because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your > > > anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write > > > what you think and feel is everything. > > > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > > Verdict: N/A (Complete lack of Wit and creativity) > > > > > > > > > > And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on > > > this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for > > > the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge > > > is to think about , day he or she gets googled twenty years from now > > > > > and they look like a tool. > > > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > > Verdict: GUILTY > > > > see definition of TOOL @ Wikipedia > > > > > > For more on the relationship between Music and mental illness I highly > recommend the following DVD's: > > > > The Devil and Daniel Johnston > > You're Gonna Miss Me (Rocky Ericsson) > > Dig ! (Brian Jonestown Massacre vs. Dandy Warhols) > > > > If I do get to attend the DEMF this year I'll be back @ the hotel with my > > 2 > fans in their 2 Kooky girlie T's practicing what I like to call, my 3 > favorite > words. Menage-a-trois. > > > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/17064917_5080f903b4_o.jpg > > > > And just to throw another log on the fire, it's a good thing Tom can't > > read > German. > > > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2440469593_4d2ed16380_o.jpg > > > > > > telepa
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Wow, Kooky... I know Tom was guilty on the first account, as I remember when that threat happened, but on the other 3 guilty verdicts... where did you base your supporting evidence and where was the jury to define guilt or innocence? I know here in America democracy is almost dead, but I thought we still had a process where a guilty verdict is found through providing evidence and having a group discussion determine guilt or innocence. Forgive me for bringing up the Hitler name again, but I think in this situation, it smells a lot like the Death of a Democracy. Kook, I know you've got long-standing beef with Tom, but try to at least put some sort of evidence like you did in the first guilty verdict. It'll make your argument a bit more viable and a bit less dictatorial a**hole. Peace* Jodie On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:02 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- Original message -- > From: "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Some things about the recent thread: > > > > 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list > > is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't > > think that's controversial. > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Verdict: GUILTY > > 2 counts of threatening to physically attack Richie Hawtin and the Kooky > Scientist. > The offer still stands Tom. Come put me out of my misery... > > 117 North St. > Salem, MA > (Where they burn Witches) > > > > > > 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. > > Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer > > position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, > > including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going > > to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably > > won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Verdict: GUILTY > > > > > > 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's > > never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban > > people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in > > the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be > > a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without > > insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? > > Be a little more creative. > > > > Accused : Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Verdict: GUILTY > > My personal opinion is that it should be made MORE PERSONAL !!! > > > > 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a > > popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because > > I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his > > sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get > > attitude, it really gets up my nose. > > > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Verdict: GUILTY > > > > > 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a > > means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad > > because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your > > anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write > > what you think and feel is everything. > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Verdict: N/A (Complete lack of Wit and creativity) > > > > > > And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on > > this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for > > the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge > > is to think about , day he or she gets googled twenty years from now > > > and they look like a tool. > > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. > Verdict: GUILTY > > see definition of TOOL @ Wikipedia > > > For more on the relationship between Music and mental illness I highly > recommend the following DVD's: > > The Devil and Daniel Johnston > You're Gonna Miss Me (Rocky Ericsson) > Dig ! (Brian Jonestown Massacre vs. Dandy Warhols) > > If I do get to attend the DEMF this year I'll be back @ the hotel with my 2 > fans in their 2 Kooky girlie T's practicing what I like to call, my 3 > favorite words. Menage-a-trois. > > http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/17064917_5080f903b4_o.jpg > > And just to throw another log on the fire, it's a good thing Tom can't read > German. > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2440469593_4d2ed16380_o.jpg > > > telepathic love, > the kooky scientist > > (promoting his new release on Beatport.com) > search the label TELEPATHICA > New Release: Telepathic AFFECTION > > http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2062/2436793016_08d02c74dc_o.jpg > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
-- Original message -- From: "kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Some things about the recent thread: > > 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list > is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't > think that's controversial. Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Verdict: GUILTY 2 counts of threatening to physically attack Richie Hawtin and the Kooky Scientist. The offer still stands Tom. Come put me out of my misery... 117 North St. Salem, MA (Where they burn Witches) > > 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. > Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer > position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, > including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going > to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably > won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Verdict: GUILTY > > 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's > never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban > people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in > the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be > a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without > insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? > Be a little more creative. > Accused : Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Verdict: GUILTY My personal opinion is that it should be made MORE PERSONAL !!! > 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a > popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because > I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his > sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get > attitude, it really gets up my nose. > Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Verdict: GUILTY > 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a > means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad > because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your > anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write > what you think and feel is everything. Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Verdict: N/A (Complete lack of Wit and creativity) > > And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on > this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for > the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge > is to think about , day he or she gets googled twenty years from now > and they look like a tool. Accused: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. Verdict: GUILTY see definition of TOOL @ Wikipedia For more on the relationship between Music and mental illness I highly recommend the following DVD's: The Devil and Daniel Johnston You're Gonna Miss Me (Rocky Ericsson) Dig ! (Brian Jonestown Massacre vs. Dandy Warhols) If I do get to attend the DEMF this year I'll be back @ the hotel with my 2 fans in their 2 Kooky girlie T's practicing what I like to call, my 3 favorite words. Menage-a-trois. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/12/17064917_5080f903b4_o.jpg And just to throw another log on the fire, it's a good thing Tom can't read German. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/2440469593_4d2ed16380_o.jpg telepathic love, the kooky scientist (promoting his new release on Beatport.com) search the label TELEPATHICA New Release: Telepathic AFFECTION http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2062/2436793016_08d02c74dc_o.jpg
RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
OK OK, my Hitler comment was only a joke! ;) Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2008 14:30 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ... Some things about the recent thread: 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't think that's controversial. 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? Be a little more creative. 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get attitude, it really gets up my nose. 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write what you think and feel is everything. And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge is to think about the day he or she gets googled twenty years from now and they look like a tool. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
Kent's occasional, portentous locker-room talks: one of the *good* things about 313. :) -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 2:30 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ... Some things about the recent thread: 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't think that's controversial. 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? Be a little more creative. 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get attitude, it really gets up my nose. 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write what you think and feel is everything. And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge is to think about the day he or she gets googled twenty years from now and they look like a tool.
(313) Let's all have a Rodney King Moment ...
Some things about the recent thread: 1. The big bright line over which one should not cross on the 313 list is this: No personal attacks, no threats of violence. I shouldn't think that's controversial. 2. I make no pretensions of impartiality as a system administrator. Impartiality you only get if you pay for it, and this is a volunteer position. I am friends in real life with a lot of people here, including Tom Cox. Anyone I know who gets obnoxious is likely going to get the benefit of the doubt from me. Anyone I don't know probably won't. I don't claim to be impartial, but I really try to be fair. 3. I don' t want to shut down or shape discussion on the list. That's never been what the 313 list has been about. I don't want to ban people from the list either -- that's only happened 3 or 4 times in the 14-odd years of 313. But I don't think personal attacks should be a part of the list, ever. If you can't make your point without insulting someone, well, you're not really making your point are you? Be a little more creative. 4. If I was to take a vote, judging by my e-mails, Tom Cox is not a popular figure on the list. Maybe I do give him a free pass because I've hung out with him, know his wife etc. But Tom at least cools his sh*t when I ask him. If I ask someone to back off, and I get attitude, it really gets up my nose. 5. If you disagree with someone, you should use that disagreement as a means to refine your expression of your own opinion. If you're mad because of something he says, channel it into wit, not vitriol. Your anger means very little in this context; your ability to clearly write what you think and feel is everything. And everyone should remember: the Internet is forever. Everyone on this list is going to be living with the stuff they write on it for the rest of their lives. If someone makes you mad, your best revenge is to think about the day he or she gets googled twenty years from now and they look like a tool.
