(313) busted parties
Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue, How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper permits or somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal venues anymore, or is the days of break-in-and-rave over? What other reasons do the police have to harass a party? Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious solution is to choose to have our parties in more responsible venues. _derek ps. Oddly, Ive never been at a party that has been busted. Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only attend parties that I go to.
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i've been to a few where they just show up and say "party's over" and if you ask why they say "you wanna go to jail?" the dpd needs no good reason - Original Message - From: "Derek VerLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: (313) busted parties > Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue, > > How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted > due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper > permits or somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal > venues anymore, or is the days of break-in-and-rave over? > What other reasons do the police have to harass a party? > > Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are > getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious > solution is to choose to have our parties in more > responsible venues. > > _derek > > ps. Oddly, I've never been at a party that has been busted. > Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only > attend parties that I go to.
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you forget that its pretty much illegal to go after 2 anywhere. even places like mission detroit where they took extra means to go bust free and legal (and they did) are not 100% legal the way the michigan law is written it is not legal to dance after the hour of 2 am except on new years eve hence why you should support the effort to get the drinking time pushed back to at least 4. I've always wondered why people don't do more events in Windsor as its alot easier to do an event there all night long, legally - Original Message - From: "Derek VerLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: (313) busted parties > Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue, > > How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted > due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper > permits or somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal > venues anymore, or is the days of break-in-and-rave over? > What other reasons do the police have to harass a party? > > Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are > getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious > solution is to choose to have our parties in more > responsible venues. > > _derek > > ps. Oddly, I've never been at a party that has been busted. > Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only > attend parties that I go to. > >
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The parties that got busted (the ones I know of anyway) had permits to stay open till 6am though. -Original Message- From: Kookie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:12 PM To: Derek VerLee; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) busted parties you forget that its pretty much illegal to go after 2 anywhere. even places like mission detroit where they took extra means to go bust free and legal (and they did) are not 100% legal the way the michigan law is written it is not legal to dance after the hour of 2 am except on new years eve hence why you should support the effort to get the drinking time pushed back to at least 4. I've always wondered why people don't do more events in Windsor as its alot easier to do an event there all night long, legally - Original Message - From: "Derek VerLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: (313) busted parties > Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue, > > How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted > due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper permits or > somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal venues anymore, or is the > days of break-in-and-rave over? What other reasons do the police have > to harass a party? > > Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are > getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious solution > is to choose to have our parties in more responsible venues. > > _derek > > ps. Oddly, I've never been at a party that has been busted. > Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only attend > parties that I go to. > >
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"the way the michigan law is written it is not legal to dance after the
hour of 2 am except on new years eve"
Ahh Blue Laws - wonderful that these things are still on the books. :(
MEK
"Kookie"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Derek VerLee"
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nic.net> cc:
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parties
05/30/03 03:12 PM
you forget that its pretty much illegal to go after 2 anywhere. even
places
like mission detroit where they took extra means to go bust free and legal
(and they did) are not 100% legal
the way the michigan law is written it is not legal to dance after the hour
of 2 am except on new years eve
hence why you should support the effort to get the drinking time pushed
back
to at least 4.
I've always wondered why people don't do more events in Windsor as its alot
easier to do an event there all night long, legally
- Original Message -
From: "Derek VerLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:08 PM
Subject: (313) busted parties
> Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue,
>
> How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted
> due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper
> permits or somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal
> venues anymore, or is the days of break-in-and-rave over?
> What other reasons do the police have to harass a party?
>
> Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are
> getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious
> solution is to choose to have our parties in more
> responsible venues.
>
> _derek
>
> ps. Oddly, I've never been at a party that has been busted.
> Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only
> attend parties that I go to.
>
>
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On Fri, 30 May 2003, Kookie wrote: > > I've always wondered why people don't do more events in Windsor as its alot > easier to do an event there all night long, legally 1. Cost of the bridge. 2. Dealing with Immigration in rough shape at 6 AM
Re: (313) busted parties
When I was leaving the KMS afterparty there were cops rolling in deep into that, so I assumed that it was going to get busted, but after talking to Pete G. and Mark F., who were inside, it was not. The funniest bit was some guy standing in line outside who made the mistake of asking one of the cops standing outside it the party was going to be shut down. Reply: " What??!??, you WANT me to shut it down? To which he says no, then: "Then SHUT UP!!" I guess she wasn't having a good day policing the wonderful streets of Detroit. I can definitely understand beign a little rude when dealing with drunken idiots, as I'm sure they had to at some point that night, but the guy that this was aimed at was lucid. Lucid enough to not want to pay 25 bucks to go to a party that could get shut down 5 minutes later. As far as permits go, I don't know how many places actually bother to get them. One of the loopholes of doing afterparties at galleries was the fact that they can hold events for any time periods. As long as the event could be shown to be an "artistic" event, it could go on forever. I don't know how true that was this year. My highlight this year was listening to Dan Bell's set at the Underground Stage, as well as Buzz in the MI tent. Another highlight was the freestyle programming doen by Ayro at the beginning of his set on the Movement Stage, followed by the impromptu dancing by the ladies and gent clad in brown overtones. Nice! Another big + was seeing my NYC peeps (Pete G. and Mark F.), Ms. Potts (you reminded me of Brad Pitt in True Romance chilling in the crib 24/7), as well the French connection (you know who you are), and of course those international techno vagabonds (Technotourists, Inc.). Shout out complete... As for all of the drama that ensues from a gathering such as this, I must say what's more important than all of this BS is to hang with people you know, meet people you don't, and just enjoy the company (for the most part) of people that enjoy techno to some degree or another. Peace, Alex - Original Message - From: "::)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:15 pm Subject: Re: (313) busted parties > i've been to a few where they just show up and say "party's over" > and if you > ask why they say "you wanna go to jail?" > > the dpd needs no good reason > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Derek VerLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:08 PM > Subject: (313) busted parties > > > > Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue, > > > > How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted > > due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper > > permits or somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal > > venues anymore, or is the days of break-in-and-rave over? > > What other reasons do the police have to harass a party? > > > > Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are > > getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious > > solution is to choose to have our parties in more > > responsible venues. > > > > _derek > > > > ps. Oddly, I've never been at a party that has been busted. > > Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only > > attend parties that I go to. > >
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On 5/30/03 5:23 PM, "alex lugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As far as permits go, I don't know how many places actually bother to > get them. One of the loopholes of doing afterparties at galleries was > the fact that they can hold events for any time periods. As long as > the event could be shown to be an "artistic" event, it could go on > forever. > On Sunday at DC I over heard one of the cops saying to the owner "your a gallery, well wheres the art?" At that point I collected my record bag and headed for the door. Do art galleries have to stick to the 2am law for drinks? Maybe it was noise? The door to DC was wide open on both nights. Also I have had problems with my isp as of late and I missed a most of the replies to this thread could some kind soul please forward them to me. I went down as of 5/28 at 9pm. thankx -scotto ps steve - thankx I had a great time on Sunday.
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No dance club in Michigan can stay open til 6. Its flat out illegal. There are some known places that the cops typically don't bust (gay clubs and goth clubs) theyre still not legal. If you have a food permit you can stay open til 4, if all of the liquor even the stuff on the floor is gone by 2:30 and theres no dancing. - Original Message - From: "Grammenos, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Kookie'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Derek VerLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: RE: (313) busted parties > > The parties that got busted (the ones I know of anyway) had permits to stay > open till 6am though. > > -Original Message- > From: Kookie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 4:12 PM > To: Derek VerLee; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) busted parties > > > you forget that its pretty much illegal to go after 2 anywhere. even places > like mission detroit where they took extra means to go bust free and legal > (and they did) are not 100% legal > > the way the michigan law is written it is not legal to dance after the hour > of 2 am except on new years eve > > hence why you should support the effort to get the drinking time pushed back > to at least 4. > > I've always wondered why people don't do more events in Windsor as its alot > easier to do an event there all night long, legally > ----- Original Message - > From: "Derek VerLee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 3:08 PM > Subject: (313) busted parties > > > > Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue, > > > > How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted > > due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper permits or > > somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal venues anymore, or is the > > days of break-in-and-rave over? What other reasons do the police have > > to harass a party? > > > > Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are > > getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious solution > > is to choose to have our parties in more responsible venues. > > > > _derek > > > > ps. Oddly, I've never been at a party that has been busted. > > Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only attend > > parties that I go to. > > > > > > >
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the problem isn't serving alcohol. the problem is that you cannot have none employees in a bar after 2:30am. even if there's not a drop of alcohol to be found, you're still breaking the law. On Fri, 30 May 2003, Derek VerLee wrote: > Late on the thread.. email problems... anyhue, > > How many parties that get busted, now-a-days, get busted > due to venues serving after 2am? How many due to improper > permits or somesuch? Do parties get busted for illegal > venues anymore, or is the days of break-in-and-rave over? > What other reasons do the police have to harass a party? > > Seems to me that if a large percentage of parties are > getting busted due to serving alcohol after 2am, an obvious > solution is to choose to have our parties in more > responsible venues. > > _derek > > ps. Oddly, Ive never been at a party that has been busted. > Therefore, logically, another obvious solution is to only > attend parties that I go to. >
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At 10:40 PM 5/30/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem isn't serving alcohol. the problem is that you cannot have none employees in a bar after 2:30am. even if there's not a drop of alcohol to be found, you're still breaking the law. Interesting bit o' history behind this...way back when this was put into play, the Big 3 (who, incidentally "killed my baby" :-) decided they didn't want their employees out bar hopping all night - makes for bad attendance on the assembly lines the next day. jeff (27 years on the line)
