Re: (313) Jaded ravers ... because you all are, aren't you?
-- Original Message -- From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read all 64 episodes! Free gratuitous Pittsburgh references for Thomas Cox included! i linked to this one in my lj last month because its just too funny: http://jadedraver.com/strip053.gif but seriously, theres lots of funny stuff in there, especially if youve spent time in the midwest rave scene. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Jaded ravers ... because you all are, aren't you?
it's been around for a while, raver meltdown: http://www.regalbear.com/projects/ytv/ravermeltdown/ravermeltdownflash.html james www.jbucknell.com Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To h.com313@hyperreal.org cc 10/08/05 12:40 PM Subject Re: (313) Jaded ravers ... because Please respond to you all are, aren't you? [EMAIL PROTECTED] h.com -- Original Message -- From: Greg Earle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read all 64 episodes! Free gratuitous Pittsburgh references for Thomas Cox included! i linked to this one in my lj last month because its just too funny: http://jadedraver.com/strip053.gif but seriously, theres lots of funny stuff in there, especially if youve spent time in the midwest rave scene. tom andythepooh.com ForwardSourceID:NT00021B32
(313) Jaded ravers ... because you all are, aren't you?
Read all 64 episodes! Free gratuitous Pittsburgh references for Thomas Cox included! http://www.jadedraver.com/index.php?cur=0rl=1 - Greg
Re: (313) jaded/Non Ageing Techno
At many points in time when I was younger, people used to say to me (more or less) Do you REALLY think you'll still be listening to this kind of music when you're 40? [the assumption obviously being that it was just a fad] It didn't really matter WHAT it was that I was listening to. Since it wasn't mainstream pop, I suspect that it was because it was music THEY didn't appreciate. the idea that I should grow out of liking a certain kind of music just because I've gotten older seemed ridiculous when i was younger and it seems even more ridiculous now. I'm 35 and I still listen to all the music that was called into question when I was younger. I listen to a wider variety of music than I did when I was 12, but that doesn't mean that I don't still enjoy the music I enjoyed when I was 12, such as disco, which was club music also. So why on earth wouldn't I still want to throw down some Pantytec when I'm 60?? Maybe there will be some other heads in the old folks home eager to hear some golden oldies other than Britney Spears and Eminem.
(313) jaded
there has been a lot of discussion recently about how to get the younger (american) generation to listen to techno and that the majority of this list are over 25 (myself included). ah, the irony - in my experience, techno/house/electro is music that only young people listen to, those under 25, as they are the demographic that still go out to clubs (although there are fewer clubs and nights for them to go to - not one regular techno night on a saturday in dublin, that says something). it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno. is it different in america and britain? (my only experiences of going out in england are lost parties). in ireland, it is music that most people grow out of, unless they are a dj/producer, as priorities change - it's looked upon with disdain, as juvenile pap. even my girlfriend, who loves this music, is starting to find it monotonous and grating. on the rare occasions when a babysitter is available and we venture out, there is a sense of unease as we usually seem to be around a decade older than the rest of club crowd in dublin. my father is still listening to the music of his youth - jerry lee lweis, ray charles - but will we still be listening techno in our 60s? does this stuff have longevity? a friend of mine, a bob dylan fanatic, believes that people will still be listening to mr zimmerman in 300 years, can the same be said for atkins, may et al? it gets harder and harder to enjoy the music when you are in a shrinking minority, although i don't have to worry about getting shot when i go out jack palancing. that puts my agonising in perspective. fooking hell, right to bear arms? no thanks! favourite track of moment: sterac 'asphyx', a rarity that i managed to pick up recently, even though it has a dodgy trance feel off it (maybe that's why i love it!). and that aii track off the narita 'terminal one' 12 comes second with connective zone's 'function' track third. not that you care, but i've had my fun and that's all that matters. right, enough of my blathering, back to the music and lurking for me. aidano thanks, aidan
RE: (313) jaded
Only ten years of listening to Desert scores by Ian O'Brien, Music has the rights ... by BOC, and Night drive by Cybotron, and still hugely enjoying them... Can't really imagine any of that stuff aging (and these are just a few examples off the top of my head) Gwendal -Message d'origine- De : Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 10:44 AM À : 313@hyperreal.org Objet : (313) jaded there has been a lot of discussion recently about how to get the younger (american) generation to listen to techno and that the majority of this list are over 25 (myself included). ah, the irony - in my experience, techno/house/electro is music that only young people listen to, those under 25, as they are the demographic that still go out to clubs (although there are fewer clubs and nights for them to go to - not one regular techno night on a saturday in dublin, that says something). it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno. is it different in america and britain? (my only experiences of going out in england are lost parties). in ireland, it is music that most people grow out of, unless they are a dj/producer, as priorities change - it's looked upon with disdain, as juvenile pap. even my girlfriend, who loves this music, is starting to find it monotonous and grating. on the rare occasions when a babysitter is available and we venture out, there is a sense of unease as we usually seem to be around a decade older than the rest of club crowd in dublin. my father is still listening to the music of his youth - jerry lee lweis, ray charles - but will we still be listening techno in our 60s? does this stuff have longevity? a friend of mine, a bob dylan fanatic, believes that people will still be listening to mr zimmerman in 300 years, can the same be said for atkins, may et al? it gets harder and harder to enjoy the music when you are in a shrinking minority, although i don't have to worry about getting shot when i go out jack palancing. that puts my agonising in perspective. fooking hell, right to bear arms? no thanks! favourite track of moment: sterac 'asphyx', a rarity that i managed to pick up recently, even though it has a dodgy trance feel off it (maybe that's why i love it!). and that aii track off the narita 'terminal one' 12 comes second with connective zone's 'function' track third. not that you care, but i've had my fun and that's all that matters. right, enough of my blathering, back to the music and lurking for me. aidano thanks, aidan
RE: (313) jaded/Non Ageing Techno
To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno So True... Most of my friends are into Nu Soul, Rap and Rnb (callitwatchchoowill) and cant bear to listen anything with a 4-4 beat. They cant hear beyond the rhythm of the kick. They need to step out 'beyond the dance'. But play them Missy Eliots 'For my Peeps' and they can dig it. As you say a lot of techno is made for clubs and dancing, people of a certain age move away from clubs. Theres families to look after. Plus I don't think I could do a 4/4 workout for more than 4 mins : ). Im listening to way more techno (not necessarily the dance orientated stuff, more the armchair stuff) than I did when I was younger. I like the abstraction, making my own mind up about what the music is communicating. I mean how many times cant you hear a song containing the lines Laaadeeyy, I love yeo, plueese don't leve me' sung in that warbling oversinging style that seems to be so popular. Don't get me wrong I'm still partial to soul and rap, but it really needs to try harder. Good Hard Tryers - Aaliyah (rip)/Anti Pop Consortium/MadVillian/Badu/Prefuse 73/Cody Chestnutt/Spacek/ I was listening to the As One and Stastis compilations and thinking jeez these still represent a modern and futuristic sound. Send me you non ageing techno suggestions please. I'd love to hear what the oldies are digging... Cheers, Rav. -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2004 09:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) jaded there has been a lot of discussion recently about how to get the younger (american) generation to listen to techno and that the majority of this list are over 25 (myself included). ah, the irony - in my experience, techno/house/electro is music that only young people listen to, those under 25, as they are the demographic that still go out to clubs (although there are fewer clubs and nights for them to go to - not one regular techno night on a saturday in dublin, that says something). it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno. is it different in america and britain? (my only experiences of going out in england are lost parties). in ireland, it is music that most people grow out of, unless they are a dj/producer, as priorities change - it's looked upon with disdain, as juvenile pap. even my girlfriend, who loves this music, is starting to find it monotonous and grating. on the rare occasions when a babysitter is available and we venture out, there is a sense of unease as we usually seem to be around a decade older than the rest of club crowd in dublin. my father is still listening to the music of his youth - jerry lee lweis, ray charles - but will we still be listening techno in our 60s? does this stuff have longevity? a friend of mine, a bob dylan fanatic, believes that people will still be listening to mr zimmerman in 300 years, can the same be said for atkins, may et al? it gets harder and harder to enjoy the music when you are in a shrinking minority, although i don't have to worry about getting shot when i go out jack palancing. that puts my agonising in perspective. fooking hell, right to bear arms? no thanks! favourite track of moment: sterac 'asphyx', a rarity that i managed to pick up recently, even though it has a dodgy trance feel off it (maybe that's why i love it!). and that aii track off the narita 'terminal one' 12 comes second with connective zone's 'function' track third. not that you care, but i've had my fun and that's all that matters. right, enough of my blathering, back to the music and lurking for me. aidano thanks, aidan
RE: (313) jaded/Non Ageing Techno
well I am 32 have a family (which will grow in Feb next year - can't wait!) and still love all kinds of techno, clubbing , playing out , the whole thing...if you truely love techno you'll stick with it whatever. -Original Message- From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 12:41 PM To: 'Aidan O'Doherty'; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: RE: (313) jaded/Non Ageing Techno To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno So True... Most of my friends are into Nu Soul, Rap and Rnb (callitwatchchoowill) and cant bear to listen anything with a 4-4 beat. They cant hear beyond the rhythm of the kick. They need to step out 'beyond the dance'. But play them Missy Eliots 'For my Peeps' and they can dig it. As you say a lot of techno is made for clubs and dancing, people of a certain age move away from clubs. Theres families to look after. Plus I don't think I could do a 4/4 workout for more than 4 mins : ). Im listening to way more techno (not necessarily the dance orientated stuff, more the armchair stuff) than I did when I was younger. I like the abstraction, making my own mind up about what the music is communicating. I mean how many times cant you hear a song containing the lines Laaadeeyy, I love yeo, plueese don't leve me' sung in that warbling oversinging style that seems to be so popular. Don't get me wrong I'm still partial to soul and rap, but it really needs to try harder. Good Hard Tryers - Aaliyah (rip)/Anti Pop Consortium/MadVillian/Badu/Prefuse 73/Cody Chestnutt/Spacek/ I was listening to the As One and Stastis compilations and thinking jeez these still represent a modern and futuristic sound. Send me you non ageing techno suggestions please. I'd love to hear what the oldies are digging... Cheers, Rav. -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2004 09:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) jaded there has been a lot of discussion recently about how to get the younger (american) generation to listen to techno and that the majority of this list are over 25 (myself included). ah, the irony - in my experience, techno/house/electro is music that only young people listen to, those under 25, as they are the demographic that still go out to clubs (although there are fewer clubs and nights for them to go to - not one regular techno night on a saturday in dublin, that says something). it seems to be music that you are supposed to grow out of. most of my friends used to go to clubs, but would now rather eat their own flesh than listen to techno. is it different in america and britain? (my only experiences of going out in england are lost parties). in ireland, it is music that most people grow out of, unless they are a dj/producer, as priorities change - it's looked upon with disdain, as juvenile pap. even my girlfriend, who loves this music, is starting to find it monotonous and grating. on the rare occasions when a babysitter is available and we venture out, there is a sense of unease as we usually seem to be around a decade older than the rest of club crowd in dublin. my father is still listening to the music of his youth - jerry lee lweis, ray charles - but will we still be listening techno in our 60s? does this stuff have longevity? a friend of mine, a bob dylan fanatic, believes that people will still be listening to mr zimmerman in 300 years, can the same be said for atkins, may et al? it gets harder and harder to enjoy the music when you are in a shrinking minority, although i don't have to worry about getting shot when i go out jack palancing. that puts my agonising in perspective. fooking hell, right to bear arms? no thanks! favourite track of moment: sterac 'asphyx', a rarity that i managed to pick up recently, even though it has a dodgy trance feel off it (maybe that's why i love it!). and that aii track off the narita 'terminal one' 12 comes second
Re: (313) jaded/Non Ageing Techno
if you truely love techno you'll stick with it. here here... i start to lose touch with it all when i don't go out dancing. the music i love doesn't make a lot of sense without the dance. robin...
Re: (313) jaded/Non Ageing Techno
yup, I'm 35 and probably going to make techno an even more central role in my life within the next year or so. I think that if you love the music there shouldn't be any reason to give it up the older you get. Why stop dancing? My parents haven't - they just dance to the music they grew up with. MEK To: 313 Org 313@hyperreal.org cc: bcc: Subject:Re: (313) jaded/Non Ageing Techno robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/11/2004 13:10 CET font size=-1/font if you truely love techno you'll stick with it. here here... i start to lose touch with it all when i don't go out dancing. the music i love doesn't make a lot of sense without the dance. robin...
