(313) simon walley... i'm calling you out.
maybe i missed something but is this set available for download? On Saturday, October 12, 2002, at 07:43 PM, Tristan Watkins wrote: - Original Message - From: Lee Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:52 AM Subject: (313) [313] simon walley... i'm calling you out. hey simon... what's up with these fill tracks? they're some of the most melodic and engaging works that i have heard. but they are only a minute or so long! can you stretch any of them out a bit? i wanna kick back with headphones and melt with the fill tracks for at least 15 minutes. please. : ) I was listening to his live in Chicago PA again on the bus tonight, and I think there are two possible responses to this: a) he is the real 'subliminal seducer'. b) he can't orchestrate a track to the point of finishing it at a length greater than 4 minutes. I think anyone familiar with his work will agree the answer is 'a', and Carl Craig is not, if fact, the subliminal seducer. ;) Or maybe they both are in different ways? You could level the same criticism against The Black Dog's 'Music For Adverts and Short Films', which is one of the best albums of any sort of music in my opinion. It's less about each track than the mood changes. Or... the whole thing works and is successful precisely because it leaves you wanting so much more of the same. As dance music afficianados, I think it's particularly hard to acclimate to this style, although I MUCH prefer it to crap DJ's letting records play for 10+ minutes at a time before moving on. I mean, that creates zero vibe. No one does, or should play successive 10+ minute tracks. That's just stupid. It doesn't work. CiM's style is a refreshing change from repitition-habituation. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) simon walley... i'm calling you out.
Jake: maybe i missed something but is this set available for download? yep! http://www.warmdata.net/audio/CiM_livePA.mp3 rob _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: (313) simon walley... i'm calling you out.
maybe i missed something but is this set available for download? Yes, from the 'audio' section of http://www.warmdata.net/ Cheers, Tom
Re: (313) [313] simon walley... i'm calling you out.
From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) [313] simon walley... i'm calling you out. - Original Message - From: Lee Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] hey simon... what's up with these fill tracks? they're some of the most melodic and engaging works that i have heard. but they are only a minute or so long! can you stretch any of them out a bit? i wanna kick back with headphones and melt with the fill tracks for at least 15 minutes. please. : ) I was listening to his live in Chicago PA again on the bus tonight, and I think there are two possible responses to this: a) he is the real 'subliminal seducer'. b) he can't orchestrate a track to the point of finishing it at a length greater than 4 minutes. I think anyone familiar with his work will agree the answer is 'a', and Carl Craig is not, if fact, the subliminal seducer. ;) Or maybe they both are in different ways? Whilst I would like to claim (a) above, I should own up and confirm (b). I often have problems finishing tracks - however rather than trash it because it's short and hence 'unfinished', if I am happy with the track as it is, wringing it out and extending it to the industry standard length seems pointless. One of my favourite tracks, Drexciyas' Sighting in the Abyss is 2-3 minutes long and I always hated the fact that such a stunning track was so short. But the length ties in with the track title - it is fleeting and once you catch a glimpse, hopefully you'll want to hang around to try and catch it again. Simon [CiM] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: (313) [313] simon walley... i'm calling you out.
- Original Message - From: Lee Herrington IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:52 AM Subject: (313) [313] simon walley... i'm calling you out. hey simon... what's up with these fill tracks? they're some of the most melodic and engaging works that i have heard. but they are only a minute or so long! can you stretch any of them out a bit? i wanna kick back with headphones and melt with the fill tracks for at least 15 minutes. please. : ) I was listening to his live in Chicago PA again on the bus tonight, and I think there are two possible responses to this: a) he is the real 'subliminal seducer'. b) he can't orchestrate a track to the point of finishing it at a length greater than 4 minutes. I think anyone familiar with his work will agree the answer is 'a', and Carl Craig is not, if fact, the subliminal seducer. ;) Or maybe they both are in different ways? You could level the same criticism against The Black Dog's 'Music For Adverts and Short Films', which is one of the best albums of any sort of music in my opinion. It's less about each track than the mood changes. Or... the whole thing works and is successful precisely because it leaves you wanting so much more of the same. As dance music afficianados, I think it's particularly hard to acclimate to this style, although I MUCH prefer it to crap DJ's letting records play for 10+ minutes at a time before moving on. I mean, that creates zero vibe. No one does, or should play successive 10+ minute tracks. That's just stupid. It doesn't work. CiM's style is a refreshing change from repitition-habituation. Tristan = Text/Mixes: http://phonopsia.tripod.com Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(313) 3MB (was: Re: (313) simon walley... i'm calling you out.)
On Sunday, October 13, 2002, at 03:43 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote: You could level the same criticism against The Black Dog's 'Music For Adverts and Short Films', which is one of the best albums of any sort of music in my opinion. It's less about each track than the mood changes. Or... the whole thing works and is successful precisely because it leaves you wanting so much more of the same. For me, the same goes for 3 Minute Blunts which I like a lot despite the fact I'm not really into hiphop at all. It's the shortness of the tracks, the changes, that keeps me interested. Classical music on the other hand is a whole different kettle of fish altogether, where a mood develops over sometimes very long movements (German speakers help me out here please, is this the correct translation for Satz in music?), and it wouldn't sound right were they any shorter. Of course you could also theorise that ppl's attention spans are a lot shorter nowadays than they used to be... ; ) Toodles, Anya Btw., anyone heard the new Delsin compilation Day by Day yet? If it's as lovely as ..going thru life (Tristan, remind me next week!) then it's a must, right? : )
Re: (313) 3MB (was: Re: (313) simon walley... i'm calling you out.)
I think that good music can be short or long. It doesn't matter in my opinion. Think of Manuel Göttsching's masterpiece E2-E4. 60 minutes full of absolutely shivers down my spine. And it really changes very very slowly without being boring! Anya, Day by day is absolutely great! A very unique overview on Delsin's releases. It shows again how much good stuff is coming out on this label! Definitely a must! Cheers, Arne Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Sunday, October 13, 2002, at 03:43 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote: You could level the same criticism against The Black Dog's 'Music For Adverts and Short Films', which is one of the best albums of any sort of music in my opinion. It's less about each track than the mood changes. Or... the whole thing works and is successful precisely because it leaves you wanting so much more of the same. For me, the same goes for 3 Minute Blunts which I like a lot despite the fact I'm not really into hiphop at all. It's the shortness of the tracks, the changes, that keeps me interested. Classical music on the other hand is a whole different kettle of fish altogether, where a mood develops over sometimes very long movements (German speakers help me out here please, is this the correct translation for Satz in music?), and it wouldn't sound right were they any shorter. Of course you could also theorise that ppl's attention spans are a lot shorter nowadays than they used to be... ; ) Toodles, Anya Btw., anyone heard the new Delsin compilation Day by Day yet? If it's as lovely as ..going thru life (Tristan, remind me next week!) then it's a must, right? : ) -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de STARBABY Rec. DOWN LOW MUSIC NATIVE Rec. KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) °°°
Re: (313) 3MB (was: Re: (313) simon walley... i'm calling you out.)
On Sunday, October 13, 2002, at 03:23 PM, Arne Weinberg wrote: I think that good music can be short or long. It doesn't matter in my opinion. I agree. What I was trying to say was that although I don't really like hiphop that much, the 3MB comp gives me the chance of listening to good hiphop without the tracks being long enough to remind me of not really liking it - if that makes sense... (the limitations of my English showing here perhaps). Having said all that I do have a few more hiphop CDs around somewhere so you could say it whetted my appetite for more... Think of Manuel Göttsching's masterpiece E2-E4. 60 minutes full of absolutely shivers down my spine. And it really changes very very slowly without being boring! Absolutely. Rather similar to classical music then perhaps, if I go by what I said earlier... ? Hmmm... I better get back into hiding now... ; ) Anya, Day by day is absolutely great! A very unique overview on Delsin's releases. It shows again how much good stuff is coming out on this label! Definitely a must! Thanks - I also checked the samples on http://www.delsin.org (*doh*) and it's on order now, should get it on Tuesday. Ta-ra, Anya Cheers, Arne Anya Stang [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Sunday, October 13, 2002, at 03:43 AM, Tristan Watkins wrote: You could level the same criticism against The Black Dog's 'Music For Adverts and Short Films', which is one of the best albums of any sort of music in my opinion. It's less about each track than the mood changes. Or... the whole thing works and is successful precisely because it leaves you wanting so much more of the same. For me, the same goes for 3 Minute Blunts which I like a lot despite the fact I'm not really into hiphop at all. It's the shortness of the tracks, the changes, that keeps me interested. Classical music on the other hand is a whole different kettle of fish altogether, where a mood develops over sometimes very long movements (German speakers help me out here please, is this the correct translation for Satz in music?), and it wouldn't sound right were they any shorter.
(313) [313] simon walley... i'm calling you out.
hey simon... what's up with these fill tracks? they're some of the most melodic and engaging works that i have heard. but they are only a minute or so long! can you stretch any of them out a bit? i wanna kick back with headphones and melt with the fill tracks for at least 15 minutes. please. : ) thanks for listening [or reading]. lrh
