(313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread sean deason
it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark
yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I
dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them for
the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new Swayzak
records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all of
the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track
after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to put
them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down
perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to wait
this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these
days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels like
kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and
angst punk rock is just satire.

sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason




Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and  most def. the
Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc.
There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much about
it. ;-)

I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising
Swayzak.

nice one,
fab.


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From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: (313) swayzak


 it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark
 yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I
 dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them
for
 the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new
Swayzak
 records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all
of
 the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track
 after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to
put
 them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down
 perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to
wait
 this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these
 days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels
like
 kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and
 angst punk rock is just satire.

 sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason





Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Mislav Bobic
similar thing happened to me ordering no.1 clubtune in laurent garners
playlist' (me believing
in french dj whom I kinda respect): northern light - my pain - lasergun.
hopefully managed to cancel my order after hearing few seconds of RA
soundbytes on the net.

lived in the 80's (being pretty young) and believe better stick to the
originals ...

listen-to-your-ears-mislav-or-have-a-trustee-somewhere ...


- Original Message -
From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:15
Subject: (313) swayzak


 it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark
 yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I
 dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them
for
 the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new
Swayzak
 records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all
of
 the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track
 after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to
put
 them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down
 perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to
wait
 this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these
 days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels
like
 kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and
 angst punk rock is just satire.

 sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason






Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Lees
I've been a big swayzak fan since the release of Snowboarding in 98. It 
doesn't happen often but when I heard that record I felt that I'd found 
my ideal sound (at the time).


Himawari I also love, they started the vocals on this but IMO it worked 
well. The first track 'Illegal' features Benjamin Zephaniah and it works 
well. The third track, 'State of Grace' sounds more like the dirty 
dancing stuff. There are aspects of the first album though, Leisure 
Centre and Betek are great tracks.


When I bought dirty dancing I wasn't impressed, the only track I like is 
 'ping pong'. The good things you've been hearing about swayzak are 
justified, but the things you've been hearing don't apply to the last 
album. Some of the 12s they've released also stand out as some of their 
best work, 020100 is a great track, a couple of the Theorem 
collaborations are good too.


Cheers

--Mike


Fabrizio Nahum wrote:

Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and  most def. the
Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc.
There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much about
it. ;-)

I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising
Swayzak.

nice one,
fab.


- Original Message -
From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: (313) swayzak




it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark
yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7. I
dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them


for


the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new


Swayzak


records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all


of


the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and track
after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to


put


them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing down
perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to


wait


this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these
days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels


like


kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit and
angst punk rock is just satire.

sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason







--
Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/



Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Lees

Oh almost forgot,

you can hear my take on swayzak stuff,

http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/%7Emhl/eletero-qualitas.mp3

;) plug while I get the chance.

Michael Lees wrote:
I've been a big swayzak fan since the release of Snowboarding in 98. It 
doesn't happen often but when I heard that record I felt that I'd found 
my ideal sound (at the time).


Himawari I also love, they started the vocals on this but IMO it worked 
well. The first track 'Illegal' features Benjamin Zephaniah and it works 
well. The third track, 'State of Grace' sounds more like the dirty 
dancing stuff. There are aspects of the first album though, Leisure 
Centre and Betek are great tracks.


When I bought dirty dancing I wasn't impressed, the only track I like is 
 'ping pong'. The good things you've been hearing about swayzak are 
justified, but the things you've been hearing don't apply to the last 
album. Some of the 12s they've released also stand out as some of their 
best work, 020100 is a great track, a couple of the Theorem 
collaborations are good too.


Cheers

--Mike


Fabrizio Nahum wrote:

Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and  most 
def. the

Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc.
There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much 
about

it. ;-)

I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising
Swayzak.

nice one,
fab.


- Original Message -
From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: (313) swayzak




it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark
yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on 
K7. I

dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them



for


the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new



Swayzak


records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all



of

the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and 
track

after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to



put

them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing 
down

perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to



wait


this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these
days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels



like

kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit 
and

angst punk rock is just satire.

sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason









--
Mike

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/



Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
 a couple of the Theorem
 collaborations are good too.

Yeah i forgot!!! probably my fave material besides snowboarding...
serious crossover appeal for both the deep-tech headz and the minimal fiends
out there

ciao
fab.



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From: Michael Lees [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: (313) swayzak


 I've been a big swayzak fan since the release of Snowboarding in 98. It
 doesn't happen often but when I heard that record I felt that I'd found
 my ideal sound (at the time).

 Himawari I also love, they started the vocals on this but IMO it worked
 well. The first track 'Illegal' features Benjamin Zephaniah and it works
 well. The third track, 'State of Grace' sounds more like the dirty
 dancing stuff. There are aspects of the first album though, Leisure
 Centre and Betek are great tracks.

 When I bought dirty dancing I wasn't impressed, the only track I like is
   'ping pong'. The good things you've been hearing about swayzak are
 justified, but the things you've been hearing don't apply to the last
 album. Some of the 12s they've released also stand out as some of their
 best work, 020100 is a great track, a couple of the Theorem
 collaborations are good too.

 Cheers

 --Mike


 Fabrizio Nahum wrote:
  Sean, i reccommend Snowboarding in Argentina lp on Pagan and  most def.
the
  Shape Memory Effect ep on Force Inc.
  There is also Himawari but i havent heard it so im not gonna say much
about
  it. ;-)
 
  I think those are the release that are often reffered to when praising
  Swayzak.
 
  nice one,
  fab.
 
 
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  From: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
  Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:15 PM
  Subject: (313) swayzak
 
 
 
 it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark
 yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing album on K7.
I
 dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but praise for them
 
  for
 
 the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch of new
 
  Swayzak
 
 records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally hear what all
 
  of
 
 the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records on, and
track
 after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not trying to
 
  put
 
 them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi production thing
down
 perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll just have to
 
  wait
 
 this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions everywhere these
 days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just sorta feels
 
  like
 
 kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without the grit
and
 angst punk rock is just satire.
 
 sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason
 
 
 
 

 --
 Mike

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~mhl/




RE: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Stang Anya
Dirty Dancing is definitely missable.
I remember liking Himawari a lot when it came out (2000?) but
haven't listened to it in ages so possibly not as outstanding
as I thought at the time? Having said that my taste has changed
(expanded in a positive way I like to think ; ) quite a bit since
then so that's perhaps why. The Swayzak vs. Theorem tunes
are _really_ good though.

 I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions 
 everywhere these
 days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just 
 sorta feels like
 kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without 
 the grit and
 angst punk rock is just satire.

Well, I grew up in the 70's, and tbh a lot of the stuff that was
punk rock didn't really ring that true back then either.
But - it was something different, and in this respect your
comment is spot-on. Thanks!

Anya

Nina Hagen rocks!

 -Original Message-
 From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:15 PM
 To: sean deason; techno; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: (313) swayzak
 
 
 it seems many of you were confused by my Swayzak Electroclash remark
 yesterday. I was refferring to the Swayzak Dirty Dancing 
 album on K7. I
 dont know much about Swayzak, but I'd heard nothing but 
 praise for them for
 the longest time. Imagine my excitement when one day a bunch 
 of new Swayzak
 records showed up in my mailbox. I couldnt wait to finally 
 hear what all of
 the hoopla was about regarding these guys. I put the records 
 on, and track
 after track, nothing but Joy Division sounding stuff. I'm not 
 trying to put
 them down or anything, they do have the 80's low-fi 
 production thing down
 perfectly, but it's not really my cup of tea. I think I'll 
 just have to wait
 this trend out too. I see a lot of Punk Rock fashions 
 everywhere these
 days and, like electroclash, it rings very hollow, it just 
 sorta feels like
 kids playing dressup. What they dont realize is that without 
 the grit and
 angst punk rock is just satire.
 
 sean lived the 80's, no need to recreate them deason


RE: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Samu Eilola


don´t care if dirty dancing LP is fashionable or not.
there´s only one track that doestn´t do it for me.
buffalo seven with vocals from kotai is one of the best tracks on 2002
on my list 

but gotta admit i liked shape memory effect ep even more :)



Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Tristan Watkins
He also did the Groovetechnology v1.3 mix for Groovetech, which has a nice
tracklist - haven't heard the mix though.

Tristan
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Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Anya Stang
That mix is in fact a real nice ride, as nice as
the track selection suggests.
http://www.k7.com/data.pl?release=K7122CD
http://www.k7.com/audio/audio.cgi?DE-G93-02-90023.rm
And it's they not he, James Taylor  David Brown.

Gz, I gotta stop reading this list so much...
Where's my anorak?

Anya : )

 From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue 17/Dec/2002 16:17 GMT
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) swayzak
 
 He also did the Groovetechnology v1.3 mix for Groovetech, which has a nice
 tracklist - haven't heard the mix though.

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Re: (313) swayzak

2002-12-17 Thread Fred Heutte
I really liked Bueno/Fukumachi, the first Swayzak release (1997).
And they've put out quite a variety since then, many of which
are at least pretty good.  When they came to town here in Portland
about a year ago, they played a great live set and I had a long
talk with them afterwards (which also involved visiting my office
and admiring my record collection, which always goes a long way
with me :)

I haven't heard the current stuff but it wouldn't surprise me if
they picked up the Joy Divisionish sound for the moment -- 
David Brown is from Scotland so I presume the Mancunian influence
is pretty strong.

But what really drives these guys is dub -- I know they were big
fans of Adrian Sherwood and the On-U Sound fraternity, which has
also been a key influence for me (the on-u mailing list, which
I still am on, was the first one I ever subcribed to on the Net,
back in 1989).

So I would recommend (to Sean and anyone else) to check out
their other stuff as well.  

fred



[313] Swayzak defeats the Tech-House yuk

2002-02-04 Thread Michael D Tyrer
Decisions. decisions . we decided to hit Fabric on Saturday night -
amazingly walked straight in without a queue (at which time still a 100 odd
people in the guest list queue)  I wondered if this was what Tech-house had
finally brought us to ... but true to form Fabric was squashed to the
rafters, although I did spot room for a sardine or two on top of the
speakers...
Fat Terry Francis was playing the Intec Room when we arrived .. i'll
describe his set in one word: boring.  I could describe it in ten words but
it would just be repetitive, boring,boring,boring,boring.  What the hell was
he doing in the Intec room.
We went upstairs to the third room, where Swayzak had just finished his DJ
set.  He was due back on for a live 'set' in an hour.  So after a wonder
around we came back to hear this.
I've got to say initially i was not over impressed, but I was definately
caught there intrested by the acidic, squelching noises being over laid on
the top of the tunes which were spinning.  About 10 minutes in three of us
were looking at one another, pulling faces suggesting .. this wasnt doing it
for us either.  One of my m8s said he was off for a wander.  The other two
of us agreed we would come with... but we didnt and I've got to say that at
the end we thought it had been really great and enjoyable.  The pace of the
set was about 122bpm (yeah, sicko .. i counted it) but it was a really good
funky electro set with hints of 80s vocal accapellas laid over the top.
This should have been the opening set of the Intec room.
We followed up listening to C1 - so for all the doubters there was Techno
played in London on Saturday night.  A good interesting set.  I wouldnt say
the guy was brilliant but he kept our interest (138bpm) was the pace and it
wasnt boring.  I'd certainly go and listen to him again but at this stage I
dont think i would travel the country to hear him play.  In fairness I'd
like to hear him play in a club where there may be some crowd reaction (ie
out of london) but them tek-housas don't know how to yip and yell and show
some appreciation.
Trevor Rockcliffe came on to finish the last two and a half hours , he
started well and kept it going but somehow lost his groove towards the end,
that kept us going till 6.30 am and now there was only the main room left
 Craig Richards (i think).  I hate being repetitive but what can I say
 boring, boring, boring.
You know at one time I thought the Tech-house was a cool sound, after a diet
of somewhat non-stop maniac Techno, it was a sort of groovy swaying, but it
never went anywhere and after a couple of months it was confirmed yeuk.

I havent put my 0.02p worth in yet on About the Members thread ... but i
am keen to try and start a regular Saturday night proper techno night.  My
promotional endeavours so far havent been too successful and i've done
bucket loads of money but I'm still searching for a venue at the moment, and
if I can get that sorted  well the spirit is willing 

Looking forward to hearing Oliver Ho this Thursday down Ultimate Base.



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 From:

 http://212.40.161.253/rams/wmflounge200701.ram

 at 35:20 into the 6 hr set

 Heard it a lot and don't know what it is.

 thanks

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