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--- glyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not strictly 313, but check dan curtin, morgan geist, and titonton duvante's stuff. all jazzy, all pretty nicely detroit-influenced. Dan Curtin definitely lots of new stuff coming out by him at the mo. Titonton is more melodic tech tho... Heavily influenced by early 4Hero and, going back, the likes of John Cage and Stravinsky... His release on 2000 Black was the jazziest... Also, check Archive recs Italy. Jazzbeat but there's a techno twist in some of the stuff there... Check the new Nu Era release... Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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i saw a programme on improvisation a few years ago (I think it was produced/presented by Derek Bailey) where house djs in New York said that their sets are not usually planned beforehand but take form through interaction with the responses of the dancers (as well I guess with other djs and whatever inspires them at the moment). chris t Most good dj's do this, Chris T... Only beginners need to prearrange their sets. You're meant to just throw records down... depending on how you feel at the time. You've just gotta freestyle. The kind of freestyling you do in your bedroom, you know how I mean? Still, a lot of good dj's also have a general idea of what they want to play by keeping some records for the end of the set and some for warming it up at the beginning... If you can't do this you shouldn't think yourself any good. You have to really push yourself if you wanna be good but many dj's these days seem to serve half measures and don't try their best... Johnny Fiasco's Shifted and Dan Curtin's Extrapolation remixes have been my favourite bombs for ages. Absolutely raw...:) l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
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Most good dj's do this, Chris T... Only beginners need to prearrange their sets. You're meant to just throw records down... depending on how you feel at the time. You've just gotta freestyle. The kind of freestyling you do in your bedroom, you know how I mean? - i like to arrange my different styles of records and place them in sections in my record box. then like you say - improvise and feel out the crowd and at the same time i know exactly where my secret weapons are ;) - another tip: as you practice freestyling (and maybe recording your bedroom sets and listening to them) you'll find records that work really well together and you'll keep that in the back of your head. i'm constantly finding new, exciting combinations from good old records. Absolutely raw...:) - raw is good, lots of feeling and creativity. djr i saw a programme on improvisation a few years ago (I think it was produced/presented by Derek Bailey) where house djs in New York said that their sets are not usually planned beforehand but take form through interaction with the responses of the dancers (as well I guess with other djs and whatever inspires them at the moment). chris t Most good dj's do this, Chris T... Only beginners need to prearrange their sets. You're meant to just throw records down... depending on how you feel at the time. You've just gotta freestyle. The kind of freestyling you do in your bedroom, you know how I mean? Still, a lot of good dj's also have a general idea of what they want to play by keeping some records for the end of the set and some for warming it up at the beginning... If you can't do this you shouldn't think yourself any good. You have to really push yourself if you wanna be good but many dj's these days seem to serve half measures and don't try their best... Johnny Fiasco's Shifted and Dan Curtin's Extrapolation remixes have been my favourite bombs for ages. Absolutely raw...:) l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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Fittest, in particular) and the early 70s Miles Davis stuff; Bitches Brew is perhaps the LP that kick started that deep jazz funk fusion off, though I this album has some very deep funk on it imo. believe the hype. perhaps also with some relevance to 313: On the Corner for the repetitive beats tangent or Dark Magus for the brief drum machine-y bit. how about Herbie Hancock's Rockit? :) but yeah, Deep Space is great. Flanger is nice too. many have been mentioning L. Naverre..St.Germain //Rose Rouge check it if havent yet much as i like this track, i kind of agree with Philip McG.'s earlier comments: do a bunch of blue note samples and jazz-y solo riffs etc in a techno/house track make it jazz? perhaps the genres overlap in their emerging alongside a social phenomenon of sorts - jazz began as a form of dance music, right? - as well as the combination of european and african musical elements (to a greater or lesser degree). i saw a programme on improvisation a few years ago (I think it was produced/presented by Derek Bailey) where house djs in New York said that their sets are not usually planned beforehand but take form through interaction with the responses of the dancers (as well I guess with other djs and whatever inspires them at the moment). chris t
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- Original Message - From: Chris Tourgelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 5:27 AM Subject: Re: [313] Jazzy Detroit Techno weather report i saw a programme on improvisation a few years ago (I think it was produced/presented by Derek Bailey) where house djs in New York said that their sets are not usually planned beforehand but take form through interaction with the responses of the dancers (as well I guess with other djs and whatever inspires them at the moment). chris t well, duh ;P - it's called interaction... Christian Bloch www.mp3.com/bloch Tresor/LL/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings/Set.Go
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WAit is something wrong here Someone is actually posting something about music.. even quality music ...shouldn't this all about Drama and unconfirmed party angst and more drama and gossip about who's moving where because EVERYBODY is at 'x' .. Danny Wolfers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello people of the world, I am looking for some tips on jazzy deep detroit records. Stuff like Model 500's deep space, metroplex 24 (especially m024..which is still unbelievably deep) also I heard that this stuff is influenced by laxating jazz bands like weather report, does anyone know which albums or other bands would be worth checking out which are in that m500 sphere of influence? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
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A more constructive reply might be: M024 is, if I'm not mistaken (I've never heard it), a joint production with Maurizio, so if you like it as deep as that I'd suggest checking out Basic Channel and Maurizio. Jazzier detroit stuff might include Stacey Pullen's Silent Phase LP, The Theory Of... Underground Resistance have produced a fair few tracks that will be exactly what you are looking for check World 2 World and Galaxy 2 Galaxy in particular, as well as the Red Planet series. As for Weather Report's stuff, Sweet Nighter is probably their best and most well known LP, though similar sounds can be heard in early to mid 70s Herbie Hancock's output (check Sextant and the Headhunters' LP, Survival of the Fittest, in particular) and the early 70s Miles Davis stuff; Bitches Brew is perhaps the LP that kick started that deep jazz funk fusion off, though I personally prefer Filles de Kilimanjaro and In A Silent Way from a couple of years earlier. Hope that hits the spot... Jonny. Hello people of the world, I am looking for some tips on jazzy deep detroit records. Stuff like Model 500's deep space, metroplex 24 (especially m024..which is still unbelievably deep) also I heard that this stuff is influenced by laxating jazz bands like weather report, does anyone know which albums or other bands would be worth checking out which are in that m500 sphere of influence?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Model 500 mindbody R+s ... hot stuff , weird stuff but basically worthwhile J.Mills Every dog 1+2 seems to fit into the jazzy thing with little departure J.Mills Metropolis ditto Inter Zone Orch ..Programmed definate must have esp. if your into the jazzy stuff Old Fragile records touch on this as well many have been mentioning L. Naverre..St.Germain //Rose Rouge check it if havent yet and of course keep digging in repects to Juan @tkins/Model 500 *note admittedly for the sake of e-notes here's some quality art as music I would refer an indivdiual to esp. if they didnt mention these in their org. question P.s. Miles Davis kinda blue.. How about you Nate? Got anything Positive to add? Nathan John de Yonker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Mr Wv, You seem to be a big fan of weather report... Surely then you can offer up some suggestions. On 15 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WAit is something wrong here Someone is actually posting something about music.. even quality music ...shouldn't this all about Drama and unconfirmed party angst and more drama and gossip about who's moving where because EVERYBODY is at 'x' .. Danny Wolfers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello people of the world, I am looking for some tips on jazzy deep detroit records. Stuff like Model 500's deep space, metroplex 24 (especially m024..which is still unbelievably deep) also I heard that this stuff is influenced by laxating jazz bands like weather report, does anyone know which albums or other bands would be worth checking out which are in that m500 sphere of influence? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
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Anything by Ian O'Brien He's basically influenced by Jazz, funk, soul and Detroit techno (check his Mad Mike disease track) You want to get hold of his Desert Scores and Gigantic Days albums plus a rare track called That was Now that came out on Pacific. Peace Stewart
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on 12/15/2000 10:50 AM, Danny Wolfers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also I heard that this stuff is influenced by laxating jazz bands like weather report, does anyone know which albums or other bands would be worth checking out which are in that m500 sphere of influence? Laxating? Not sure what you mean here, but... There's actually quite a resurgence of interesting fusion Jazz, and more than a slight tip of the hat from techno-related artists. The obvious 313 connection is Carl Craig's Innerzone Orchestra project. Franciso Mora Catlett's effort is beautiful too, although closer to straight-ahead jazz. IMHO, there are echoes of fusion of some of the Recloose tracks. Cinematic Orchestra's Motion was another from 1999 on that tip. Squarepusher has heavy Weather Report influences. Burnt Friedman's latest seems to meld the lounge sounds of Martin Denny with some writhing fusion funk rhythm arrangements. Can anyone else add to this with current stuff? -- There4IM
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not strictly 313, but check dan curtin, morgan geist, and titonton duvante's stuff. all jazzy, all pretty nicely detroit-influenced. ian o'brien and russ gabriel are also somewhat up this alley as well, although i'm less familiar with their output. nubian mindz and some of the other stuff on archive is pretty jazzy too, although again i'm less well acquainted with it. glyn
