Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
to see what brainstate he gets into Flatline I bet ;) MEK Eric Scuccimarra To: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED], Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's 11/15/01 Ideas 02:39 PM I read an article about BT where he said he had a bio-feedback mechanism and he WANTED to eventually use it as some sort of synth or sequencer controller or something. I don't think he uses it yet other than maybe to see what brainstate he gets into when he's spinning or making music or something. At 03:24 PM 11/15/2001 -0500, James Bucknell wrote: stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate music on a computer. it would also feed electrical impulses to his muscles causing muscular spasms that would make him more twitchy than the crack heads of yesteryear selling bike seats on avenue a. sort of a bio feedback loop. i saw him at the art gallery of nsw in maybe 1987. some trance djs were telling me that bt uses some type of biofeedback mechanism in his live performances. don't know any of the details. probably the more he farts the more epic the breakdown. james www.jbucknell.com Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/15/2001 01:25:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas If you're interested in this concept (whiuch is entirely not happening yet ofcourse) I reccfomend you all read a fantastically entertaining book called The Diamond Age by Neil Stephenson. He is the author of snowcrash, a book that to me embodies the exact type of visual experience that electronic music brtings to my senses. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 ''Taking no risk is to accept the certainty of long-term failure. -- From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:40 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs? http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1563 A computerised DJ that uses feedback from the dancers to generate new music has been developed by artificial intelligence experts at Hewlett-Packard, meaning clubbers may soon only have themselves to blame if they do not like the music they are dancing to... I don't think it'll take off myself... Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
I read an article about BT where he said he had a bio-feedback mechanism and he WANTED to eventually use it as some sort of synth or sequencer controller or something. I don't think he uses it yet other than maybe to see what brainstate he gets into when he's spinning or making music or something. Perhaps it's the same biofeedback mechanism, but actually seeing/hearing BT DJing inspired the HP engineers to get rid of the DJ altogether :) Hans -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org http://www.TV-99-AD.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
A few years ago, Rathumous (a DJ in cleveland) and I built a little device that could measure capacitance, and translate it into 'clicks' to drive an old CV-style synth. We used it by attaching electrodes to food stuffs. Eating or deforming the food would change it's electrical properties and make the tones change. :) Bob -Original Message- From: Eric Scuccimarra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:40 PM To: James Bucknell; Giles Dickerson Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas I read an article about BT where he said he had a bio-feedback mechanism and he WANTED to eventually use it as some sort of synth or sequencer controller or something. I don't think he uses it yet other than maybe to see what brainstate he gets into when he's spinning or making music or something. At 03:24 PM 11/15/2001 -0500, James Bucknell wrote: stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate music on a computer. it would also feed electrical impulses to his muscles causing muscular spasms that would make him more twitchy than the crack heads of yesteryear selling bike seats on avenue a. sort of a bio feedback loop. i saw him at the art gallery of nsw in maybe 1987. some trance djs were telling me that bt uses some type of biofeedback mechanism in his live performances. don't know any of the details. probably the more he farts the more epic the breakdown. james www.jbucknell.com Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/15/2001 01:25:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas If you're interested in this concept (whiuch is entirely not happening yet ofcourse) I reccfomend you all read a fantastically entertaining book called The Diamond Age by Neil Stephenson. He is the author of snowcrash, a book that to me embodies the exact type of visual experience that electronic music brtings to my senses. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 ''Taking no risk is to accept the certainty of long-term failure. -- From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:40 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs? http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1563 A computerised DJ that uses feedback from the dancers to generate new music has been developed by artificial intelligence experts at Hewlett-Packard, meaning clubbers may soon only have themselves to blame if they do not like the music they are dancing to... I don't think it'll take off myself... Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
- Original Message - From: Eric Scuccimarra [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James Bucknell [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas I read an article about BT where he said he had a bio-feedback mechanism and he WANTED to eventually use it as some sort of synth or sequencer controller or something. I don't think he uses it yet other than maybe to see what brainstate he gets into when he's spinning or making music or something. Miles Meada was in DC last weekend doing an informal question/answer at Metatrack Studios and he talked about performing in Chicago with a device that amplifies brainwaves. It's some large copper contraption that he can plug into a mixer and broadcast. The guy who generates the brainwaves plays with something that alters them as he goes. It all sounded really interesting, and he said there's always a mysterious intangible quality to the evenings when he uses it. It's inaudible frequencies that are broadcast. I wish I could remember what it was called... I asked him if he could jack the brainwaves. ;) Tristan -- http://ampcast.com/phonopsia - Music http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Mixes, pics, thought, travelogue info http://www.metatrackstudios.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
my favorite stelarc works are from his suspension period. He used to hang himself from tall structures by plunging hooks attached to bungee like cables through specific points along his body: shoulders, legs, just around the spinal chord, etc. and affixing the other end of the cable to the tops of the buildings. the hooks were attached in such a way that his body could not slip off them. To sustain the pain(here's my favorite part) he previously recorded sounds of his internal organs in the non-penetrated state by placing a mic inside of himself, and then, during performance(suspension), played these sounds back at an extremely high intensity as to manipulate his nerves into thinking everything was ok. He would hang from the eiffel tower and famous elevated European railways for several hours. That's just so satisfying on so many levels. carlos On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joshua Stephen Landau wrote: stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate Stelarc. He's also done some other strange things, like mapping those same electrical impulses to an Internet ping-map so that the speed of his twitching was determined by the ping from his location to various places. Another project involved wiring half of his body to transmit and half to receive, and mirror-imaging this wiring on a dancer across the continent. The two then performed a piece together. Interesting fellow, if a bit on the strange side. Josh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 18:48 -0800 11/15/01, FC3 Richards wrote: As he advertised it, every show would be different and unique, and would be percepted differently by everyone. Sounds something like the MIT Media Lab's Brain Opera. -- Cafard, [EMAIL PROTECTED] qu'est-ce que tu penses? AIM:pr0j2501 Matt Kane's Brain http://mkb.n3.net ===jive turkey http://jive-turkey.n3.net=== - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
to almost totally take this off of electronic music, i'd like to say that Pete Townsend of the Who had a project that he never finished called the life house that would take what everyone in the audience and on stage were feeling and put it to music. it didn't quite work out and was scrapped because he was using too many drugs and drinking too much to get it accomplished. Besides the record company was bugging the hell out of them for a new record. As he advertised it, every show would be different and unique, and would be percepted differently by everyone. it was a good idea, but is still to this day ahead of its time. The songs that came out of the scrapped project were quite good some of them had synth lines. What remains is now the Who's Next album. and to tie this into Detroit (or michigan) the first radio station in the USA to ever play a song by the Who was in Flint, MI... peace jeff -Original Message- From: Eric Scuccimarra [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:40 PM To: James Bucknell; Giles Dickerson Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas I read an article about BT where he said he had a bio-feedback mechanism and he WANTED to eventually use it as some sort of synth or sequencer controller or something. I don't think he uses it yet other than maybe to see what brainstate he gets into when he's spinning or making music or something. At 03:24 PM 11/15/2001 -0500, James Bucknell wrote: stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate music on a computer. it would also feed electrical impulses to his muscles causing muscular spasms that would make him more twitchy than the crack heads of yesteryear selling bike seats on avenue a. sort of a bio feedback loop. i saw him at the art gallery of nsw in maybe 1987. some trance djs were telling me that bt uses some type of biofeedback mechanism in his live performances. don't know any of the details. probably the more he farts the more epic the breakdown. james www.jbucknell.com Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/15/2001 01:25:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas If you're interested in this concept (whiuch is entirely not happening yet ofcourse) I reccfomend you all read a fantastically entertaining book called The Diamond Age by Neil Stephenson. He is the author of snowcrash, a book that to me embodies the exact type of visual experience that electronic music brtings to my senses. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 ''Taking no risk is to accept the certainty of long-term failure. -- From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:40 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs? http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1563 A computerised DJ that uses feedback from the dancers to generate new music has been developed by artificial intelligence experts at Hewlett-Packard, meaning clubbers may soon only have themselves to blame if they do not like the music they are dancing to... I don't think it'll take off myself... Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
there's a guy here in spain who uses flocks of about 500 sheep running around with different cowbells hang. Not the same thing, but the result is pretty impressive :P stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate Stelarc. He's also done some other strange things, like mapping those same electrical impulses to an Internet ping-map so that the speed of his twitching was determined by the ping from his location to various places. Another project involved wiring half of his body to transmit and half to receive, and mirror-imaging this wiring on a dancer across the continent. The two then performed a piece together. Interesting fellow, if a bit on the strange side. Josh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
If you're interested in this concept (whiuch is entirely not happening yet ofcourse) I reccfomend you all read a fantastically entertaining book called The Diamond Age by Neil Stephenson. He is the author of snowcrash, a book that to me embodies the exact type of visual experience that electronic music brtings to my senses. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 ''Taking no risk is to accept the certainty of long-term failure. -- From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:40 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs? http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1563 A computerised DJ that uses feedback from the dancers to generate new music has been developed by artificial intelligence experts at Hewlett-Packard, meaning clubbers may soon only have themselves to blame if they do not like the music they are dancing to... I don't think it'll take off myself... Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate music on a computer. it would also feed electrical impulses to his muscles causing muscular spasms that would make him more twitchy than the crack heads of yesteryear selling bike seats on avenue a. sort of a bio feedback loop. i saw him at the art gallery of nsw in maybe 1987. some trance djs were telling me that bt uses some type of biofeedback mechanism in his live performances. don't know any of the details. probably the more he farts the more epic the breakdown. james www.jbucknell.com Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/15/2001 01:25:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas If you're interested in this concept (whiuch is entirely not happening yet ofcourse) I reccfomend you all read a fantastically entertaining book called The Diamond Age by Neil Stephenson. He is the author of snowcrash, a book that to me embodies the exact type of visual experience that electronic music brtings to my senses. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 ''Taking no risk is to accept the certainty of long-term failure. -- From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:40 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs? http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1563 A computerised DJ that uses feedback from the dancers to generate new music has been developed by artificial intelligence experts at Hewlett-Packard, meaning clubbers may soon only have themselves to blame if they do not like the music they are dancing to... I don't think it'll take off myself... Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
I read an article about BT where he said he had a bio-feedback mechanism and he WANTED to eventually use it as some sort of synth or sequencer controller or something. I don't think he uses it yet other than maybe to see what brainstate he gets into when he's spinning or making music or something. At 03:24 PM 11/15/2001 -0500, James Bucknell wrote: stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate music on a computer. it would also feed electrical impulses to his muscles causing muscular spasms that would make him more twitchy than the crack heads of yesteryear selling bike seats on avenue a. sort of a bio feedback loop. i saw him at the art gallery of nsw in maybe 1987. some trance djs were telling me that bt uses some type of biofeedback mechanism in his live performances. don't know any of the details. probably the more he farts the more epic the breakdown. james www.jbucknell.com Giles Dickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/15/2001 01:25:36 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: James Bucknell/Magazines/Hearst) Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas If you're interested in this concept (whiuch is entirely not happening yet ofcourse) I reccfomend you all read a fantastically entertaining book called The Diamond Age by Neil Stephenson. He is the author of snowcrash, a book that to me embodies the exact type of visual experience that electronic music brtings to my senses. - Giles D I G I T A S // B O S T O N -- Giles Dickerson Art Director 800 Boylston Street Boston, MA 02199 -- mobile 617 899 9635 office 617 369 8601 ''Taking no risk is to accept the certainty of long-term failure. -- From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:40 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs? http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1563 A computerised DJ that uses feedback from the dancers to generate new music has been developed by artificial intelligence experts at Hewlett-Packard, meaning clubbers may soon only have themselves to blame if they do not like the music they are dancing to... I don't think it'll take off myself... Brendan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Biofeedback replacing DJs / Neil Stephenson's Ideas
stellac (sp?) an australian based performance artist in the 80s used biofeedback. he would place electrodes on himself that would generate Stelarc. He's also done some other strange things, like mapping those same electrical impulses to an Internet ping-map so that the speed of his twitching was determined by the ping from his location to various places. Another project involved wiring half of his body to transmit and half to receive, and mirror-imaging this wiring on a dancer across the continent. The two then performed a piece together. Interesting fellow, if a bit on the strange side. Josh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
