RE: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-26 Thread Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| don't mean to be nit pick but the laugh was done by Allison Moyet  of 
| Yazoo.  =)  Whatever happened to her?

She's currently starring in the musical Chicago in London... not sure how
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-24 Thread Glyph1001
don't mean to be nit pick but the laugh was done by Allison Moyet  of 
Yazoo.  =)  Whatever happened to her?


glyph

Hans Veneman wrote:


On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:34:22PM +0100, Jongsma, K.J. wrote:

Is it definitely a sample of Nude Photo? I didn't pick that 
up! I thought it

sounded similar. Really dope track.


Just the little laugh, which is sampled, nude photo had the same sample, who
did the original laugh? For some reason the Human Leagua keeps poppin up.



Wasn't it Situation by Yazoo (Yaz in the US).

Hans





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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-24 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 05:16 PM 11/23/2001, Glyph1001 wrote:
don't mean to be nit pick but the laugh was done by Allison Moyet  of 
Yazoo.  =)  Whatever happened to her?


glyph


She had a solo lp or two (I think) after Vince dumped her for Andy. Alison 
was better...I find Andy's prancing a bit excessive - and I thought Alison 
was a better vocalist anyway. Dunno what happened to her after her solo effots.

jeff


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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-23 Thread Dave Clark
Just a question, which Every Dog... are you talking about? I don't
recall any 12. There was a CD (I dunno what was on this one) and two
vinyl albums part 1 and 2, which were gold and silver respectively. 

I think rather than lazy they sound a little old, compared with
futuristic-sounding stuff like From the 21st. I don't mind, though,
because I think the music is excellent. 

-Dave


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 Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I found Every Dog... vol.
 2 (the 
 12) to be quite a lazy production - both in intent and execution. As
 someone 
 who loved the Other Day and Metropolis I can't help feeling that
 perhaps the 
 title reveals some of the intention behind the compilation(s) -
 giving each 
 dog of a track a day to be spun. hmmm...
 
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-23 Thread ryan burns


i think both volums are great.  especally vol. 2.  people say its lazy and 
old,  i dont buy it.  the purcation and all the key structures, especally on 
the track with the nude photo sample are great.  i was searching around 
axisrecords.com one day and found a radio statio with a mix by mills.  it 
said it had a mix with R-Tyme, 808 State etc... but it was a mix by mills.  
the mix had all his tracks from every dog 1 and 2 and some unrealested 
tracks of that vein.  the new purpose maker is solid.


burns



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Subject: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:07:16 -0600 (CST)

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I've really been digging
the CD compilation of the Every Dog Has It's Day 12  It's a curious thing
that worldwide he is way better known as a hard techno DJ than as a 
producer.

For the thousands of people who have seen him spin but never actually
bought his records Every Dog Has Its Day would come as a surprise.  
Rather

than the banging minimal DJ you'll see in Tokyo or Paris, this work is
resolutely lush and soulful.

My mom is a composer and a fortune teller who told her that she was
able to heal with her music.  'Every Dog' has that feel for me -- the
message of optimism and positivity in the text on the cover is echoed by
music that is an expression of Mills version of future soul.

Mills has always been a genre of one -- the Purposemaker records are
a like Bach's Well Tempered Clavier -- an expression of minimalism that
is widely imitated, but renders all such imitations redundant.  The
'Every Dog' tracks turn away from that work back towards more directly
emotional communication.

For percursors you have to go back to the seminal Detroit techno tracks
which were really a new sort of soul music.  To be a futurist is to
be an optimist, and Every Dog Has Its Day embodies that optimism and hope.
It's also the subtlest, most varied and harmonically lush work Mills
has done to date.  It's a CD to which people who don't 'get' techno can
relate.


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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-23 Thread werner
whoohoo! people that know what I'm talking about :))
techno is a bit of a non-entity in cape town (south africa) where psy-trance 
forces itself down our throats.

Dave Clark wrote:
 Just a question, which Every Dog... are you talking about? I don't
 recall any 12. There was a CD (I dunno what was on this one) and two
 vinyl albums part 1 and 2, which were gold and silver respectively.

ah - I'm talking about vinyl part 2 (silver)

Phonopsia:
 What about Now is the Time? How
 anyone can describe that as an example of lazy production is beyond me.

I guess that I have to say out front that I am an all-out fan of The Other 
Day. Tracks like Sleeping Giants and Spider Formation just do it for me - and 
in those terms (while some tracks on Every Dog... were good) I felt like the 
production as a whole did not have that oomph (statement of intent) that came 
through in The Other Day. I felt like I was listening to Invisible Orchestra 
again.

Kent:
 'Lazy'? Err, as a producer I can tell you they're anything but.

hmmm... perhaps I've just spent too much time over the last few years 
listening to jazz-flavoured hip hop (pls. don't bring a Kid Loco record 
_near_ me). What I find appealing now is layering and frequency filtering.


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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-23 Thread Analog Headz
israel is also full of psytrance - i can`t stend it!
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 whoohoo! people that know what I'm talking about :))
 techno is a bit of a non-entity in cape town (south africa) where
psy-trance
 forces itself down our throats.

 Dave Clark wrote:
  Just a question, which Every Dog... are you talking about? I don't
  recall any 12. There was a CD (I dunno what was on this one) and two
  vinyl albums part 1 and 2, which were gold and silver respectively.
 
 ah - I'm talking about vinyl part 2 (silver)

 Phonopsia:
  What about Now is the Time? How
  anyone can describe that as an example of lazy production is beyond
me.
 
 I guess that I have to say out front that I am an all-out fan of The Other
 Day. Tracks like Sleeping Giants and Spider Formation just do it for me -
and
 in those terms (while some tracks on Every Dog... were good) I felt like
the
 production as a whole did not have that oomph (statement of intent) that
came
 through in The Other Day. I felt like I was listening to Invisible
Orchestra
 again.

 Kent:
  'Lazy'? Err, as a producer I can tell you they're anything but.
 
 hmmm... perhaps I've just spent too much time over the last few years
 listening to jazz-flavoured hip hop (pls. don't bring a Kid Loco record
 _near_ me). What I find appealing now is layering and frequency filtering.


 --

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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-23 Thread Hans Veneman
On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:34:22PM +0100, Jongsma, K.J. wrote:
  Is it definitely a sample of Nude Photo? I didn't pick that 
  up! I thought it
  sounded similar. Really dope track.
 
 Just the little laugh, which is sampled, nude photo had the same sample, who
 did the original laugh? For some reason the Human Leagua keeps poppin up.

Wasn't it Situation by Yazoo (Yaz in the US).

Hans

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RE: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-23 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Is it definitely a sample of Nude Photo? I didn't pick that 
 up! I thought it
 sounded similar. Really dope track.

Just the little laugh, which is sampled, nude photo had the same sample, who
did the original laugh? For some reason the Human Leagua keeps poppin up.

KJ

 i think both volums are great.  especally vol. 2.  people 
 say its lazy and 
 old,  i dont buy it.  the purcation and all the key 
 structures, especally on 
 the track with the nude photo sample are great.  i was 
 searching around 
 axisrecords.com one day and found a radio statio with a mix 
 by mills.  it 
 said it had a mix with R-Tyme, 808 State etc... but it was a 
 mix by mills.  
 the mix had all his tracks from every dog 1 and 2 and some 
 unrealested 
 tracks of that vein.  the new purpose maker is solid.
 
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-23 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Is it definitely a sample of Nude Photo? I didn't pick that up! I thought it
sounded similar. Really dope track.


i think both volums are great.  especally vol. 2.  people say its lazy and 
old,  i dont buy it.  the purcation and all the key structures, especally on 
the track with the nude photo sample are great.  i was searching around 
axisrecords.com one day and found a radio statio with a mix by mills.  it 
said it had a mix with R-Tyme, 808 State etc... but it was a mix by mills.  
the mix had all his tracks from every dog 1 and 2 and some unrealested 
tracks of that vein.  the new purpose maker is solid.

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[313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Kent williams
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I've really been digging
the CD compilation of the Every Dog Has It's Day 12  It's a curious thing
that worldwide he is way better known as a hard techno DJ than as a producer.
For the thousands of people who have seen him spin but never actually
bought his records Every Dog Has Its Day would come as a surprise.  Rather
than the banging minimal DJ you'll see in Tokyo or Paris, this work is
resolutely lush and soulful.

My mom is a composer and a fortune teller who told her that she was
able to heal with her music.  'Every Dog' has that feel for me -- the
message of optimism and positivity in the text on the cover is echoed by
music that is an expression of Mills version of future soul.

Mills has always been a genre of one -- the Purposemaker records are
a like Bach's Well Tempered Clavier -- an expression of minimalism that
is widely imitated, but renders all such imitations redundant.  The
'Every Dog' tracks turn away from that work back towards more directly
emotional communication.

For percursors you have to go back to the seminal Detroit techno tracks
which were really a new sort of soul music.  To be a futurist is to
be an optimist, and Every Dog Has Its Day embodies that optimism and hope.
It's also the subtlest, most varied and harmonically lush work Mills
has done to date.  It's a CD to which people who don't 'get' techno can
relate.


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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread werner
Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I found Every Dog... vol. 2 (the 
12) to be quite a lazy production - both in intent and execution. As someone 
who loved the Other Day and Metropolis I can't help feeling that perhaps the 
title reveals some of the intention behind the compilation(s) - giving each 
dog of a track a day to be spun. hmmm...

-- 

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unpleasentness, as the price of your not-at-all-assur'd Moment of 
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Analog Headz
i also feel the production isnot too good.
 a
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 Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I found Every Dog... vol. 2
(the
 12) to be quite a lazy production - both in intent and execution. As
someone
 who loved the Other Day and Metropolis I can't help feeling that perhaps
the
 title reveals some of the intention behind the compilation(s) - giving
each
 dog of a track a day to be spun. hmmm...

 --

 'The business of the World is Trade and Death, and you must engage with
that
 unpleasentness, as the price of your not-at-all-assur'd Moment of
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Mxyzptlk

I thought similarly about Lifelike.
jeff



At 10:07 PM 11/21/2001, you wrote:

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I've really been digging
the CD compilation of the Every Dog Has It's Day 12  It's a curious thing
that worldwide he is way better known as a hard techno DJ than as a producer.
For the thousands of people who have seen him spin but never actually
bought his records Every Dog Has Its Day would come as a surprise.  Rather
than the banging minimal DJ you'll see in Tokyo or Paris, this work is
resolutely lush and soulful.




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[313] RE: (313) Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
The other day (hehehehe) i was counting my Mills CDs; I now have 10 (!) albums
of Jeff Mills!

I still like From the 21st a lot, and Time Machine.

A few weeks back I played out at this downtempo event, and I played a lot of
stuff of every Dog and that latest album of Robert hood Nighttime world II.
People couldn't believe I was actually playing tracks of Mills and Hood...

W

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I thought similarly about Lifelike.
 jeff



At 10:07 PM 11/21/2001, you wrote:
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I've really been digging
the CD compilation of the Every Dog Has It's Day 12  It's a curious thing
that worldwide he is way better known as a hard techno DJ than as a producer.
For the thousands of people who have seen him spin but never actually
bought his records Every Dog Has Its Day would come as a surprise.  Rather
than the banging minimal DJ you'll see in Tokyo or Paris, this work is
resolutely lush and soulful.



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RE: [313] RE: (313) Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Wibo wrote:
 A few weeks back I played out at this downtempo event, and I 
 played a lot of
 stuff of every Dog and that latest album of Robert hood 
 Nighttime world II.
 People couldn't believe I was actually playing tracks of 
 Mills and Hood...

I always liked his deeper stuff better then the slamming dancefloor tracks.
Who doesn't love gammaplayer, most of the dancfloor tracks are just not that
touching. For some reason it makes a much more impact then lets say Kat
Moda. 

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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread scott mcgill
I agree about the quality but in a funny slight on Mills it is fortunate
that he is a futurist as he seems to release tracks that are about five
years old anyone.

Nighttime World Part 1 takes the biscuit for me in terms of emotion dripping
techno albums, it has a bit of everything too. By the way is it me or does
one of the tracks on NW pt1 (I think it is Untitled) have a ghost of
PurposeMaker's 'Casa' on it faintly in the background?

SM


 I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I've really been digging
 the CD compilation of the Every Dog Has It's Day 12  It's a curious thing
 that worldwide he is way better known as a hard techno DJ than as a
producer.
 For the thousands of people who have seen him spin but never actually
 bought his records Every Dog Has Its Day would come as a surprise.
Rather
 than the banging minimal DJ you'll see in Tokyo or Paris, this work is
 resolutely lush and soulful.

 My mom is a composer and a fortune teller who told her that she was
 able to heal with her music.  'Every Dog' has that feel for me -- the
 message of optimism and positivity in the text on the cover is echoed by
 music that is an expression of Mills version of future soul.

 Mills has always been a genre of one -- the Purposemaker records are
 a like Bach's Well Tempered Clavier -- an expression of minimalism that
 is widely imitated, but renders all such imitations redundant.  The
 'Every Dog' tracks turn away from that work back towards more directly
 emotional communication.

 For percursors you have to go back to the seminal Detroit techno tracks
 which were really a new sort of soul music.  To be a futurist is to
 be an optimist, and Every Dog Has Its Day embodies that optimism and hope.
 It's also the subtlest, most varied and harmonically lush work Mills
 has done to date.  It's a CD to which people who don't 'get' techno can
 relate.


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[313] RE: (313) RE: (313) Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
Well, from his more dancefloor tracks I still like i9 a lot, La force
(PM03), The Alarms (PM05) and of course Black Is The Number (don't leave
home without it...)

W

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Wibo wrote:
 A few weeks back I played out at this downtempo event, and I
 played a lot of
 stuff of every Dog and that latest album of Robert hood
 Nighttime world II.
 People couldn't believe I was actually playing tracks of
 Mills and Hood...

I always liked his deeper stuff better then the slamming dancefloor tracks.
Who doesn't love gammaplayer, most of the dancfloor tracks are just not that
touching. For some reason it makes a much more impact then lets say Kat
Moda.

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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Wes
Well, that's a little harsh though you're entitled to your opinion. The
cover notes for Every Dog Has Its Day state that the music is designed to
ease impatience and restlessness, but I guess it doesn't work for
everyone in some programatic way. What about Now is the Time? How
anyone can describe that as an example of lazy production is beyond me.
Is it because the vocals sound improvised  the structure is rather
free-form? Not sure what vol. that track was on--have you listened to it?

Wes 

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, werner wrote:

 Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I found Every Dog... vol. 2 (the 
 12) to be quite a lazy production - both in intent and execution. As someone 
 who loved the Other Day and Metropolis I can't help feeling that perhaps the 
 title reveals some of the intention behind the compilation(s) - giving each 
 dog of a track a day to be spun. hmmm...
 
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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Phonopsia
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 Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I found Every Dog... vol. 2
(the
 12) to be quite a lazy production - both in intent and execution. As
someone
 who loved the Other Day and Metropolis I can't help feeling that perhaps
the
 title reveals some of the intention behind the compilation(s) - giving
each
 dog of a track a day to be spun. hmmm...

Mills has had two faces as a producer since the early 90s. A lot of the
material on Atlantis, and the underrated ambient b-sides on Axis sound
like a prelude to the Every Dog Has Its Day records. The interviews when the
records came out indicated he spent 5 years working on them (if I recall). I
think the result was a move from tracks to songs (both of which have their
place). I love both sides of what he does. Sometimes I think one mark of a
good producer is being able to generate a wide array of reactions to their
music, creating divisive camps of fans, reflecting their distinct tastes. If
that standard has any value, then Every Dog Has Its Day marked a leap in
Mills' artistry.

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Re: [313] Jeff Mills Every Dog Has His Day CD

2001-11-22 Thread Kent williams
I don't know what Werner is on about. My review came from about a week
of heavy rotation at work and at home, and I found the tracks to be
lush and spiritually nourishing.  'Lazy'? Err, as a producer I can
tell you they're anything but.

I liked parts of Metropolis, but was underwhelmed by 'The Other Day.'
A friend of mine (another producer) said of 'The Other Day' that this
sounds like stuff I come up with that's kind of cool, but I don't even
bother recording. Which is probably a bit harsh, but when I compare
'The Other Day' to 'Every Dog' it sounds pretty sketchy and provisional.

Given that it's Mills, it's a sort of 'sex and pizza' thing -- even
when it's bad it's pretty good.  I'm not a collector or a sycophant --
I pass on Mills records all the time because they just don't jazz me.
'Every Dog' just seems like a deepening in every dimension to what
Mills has been doing all along.

Your mileage may vary.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Wes wrote:
 Well, that's a little harsh though you're entitled to your opinion. The
 cover notes for Every Dog Has Its Day state that the music is designed to
 ease impatience and restlessness, but I guess it doesn't work for
 everyone in some programatic way.

 On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, werner wrote:

  Not to take the wind out of your sails, but I found Every Dog... vol. 2
  (the 12) to be quite a lazy production - both in intent and execution. As
  someone  who loved the Other Day and Metropolis I can't help feeling that
  perhaps the  title reveals some of the intention behind the
  compilation(s) - giving each  dog of a track a day to be spun. hmmm...


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