Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd) I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original 3 members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2 members split and started Plaid. Call me a freak, but I prefer both groups after the split. IMO, the early stuff was very hit-or-miss as albums, with a few gems. Compare those earlier albums to Not For Threes or Music for Adverts and Short Films and they got a lot more coherent (at least to my ears). Music For Adverts has as good a track-to-track flow as any album I can think of, if not the best. Any one track wouldn't stand alone so well, but together it's a masterpiece. Tristan -- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
there are some people (like my GF) who thinks that after the split plaid people has lost their touch. i don`t think so, i really adore black dog for making ground breaking music,but plaid music is very very good one too. i really like alot of their stuff. kind regards y - Original Message - From: Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd) I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original 3 members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2 members split and started Plaid. Call me a freak, but I prefer both groups after the split. IMO, the early stuff was very hit-or-miss as albums, with a few gems. Compare those earlier albums to Not For Threes or Music for Adverts and Short Films and they got a lot more coherent (at least to my ears). Music For Adverts has as good a track-to-track flow as any album I can think of, if not the best. Any one track wouldn't stand alone so well, but together it's a masterpiece. Tristan -- http://www.mp313.com - Music http://www.metrotechno.net - DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com - DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com - Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email FrogboyMCI - AOL Instant Messenger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] brinkman - rosa cd
does anyone have a track listing for this cd?? thanks jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
here;s the best i can do, in no particular order : Olga Zwei, Ulla Eins, Xenia Eins Zwei, Erika Zwei, Inge Eins, Nicola Eins it's a start at least ;) my favorite compilation of all time! -pete -Original Message- From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:06 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] brinkman - rosa cd does anyone have a track listing for this cd?? thanks jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
thanks pete anyone heard the new Soul Center 3 yet??? promos are doing the rounds, my mates got one but keeping it to himself (bit like the Herbie Hancock album I gave to him to copy!!!) jd At 10:16 20/02/02 -0500, Grammenos, Peter wrote: here;s the best i can do, in no particular order : Olga Zwei, Ulla Eins, Xenia Eins Zwei, Erika Zwei, Inge Eins, Nicola Eins it's a start at least ;) my favorite compilation of all time! -pete -Original Message- From: Jason Donnelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:06 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] brinkman - rosa cd does anyone have a track listing for this cd?? thanks jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
I'm quite eager to hear that one, I loved the first two... BTW, any news on the new Blackdog LP announced on Hydrogen Dukebox ? Gwendal anyone heard the new Soul Center 3 yet??? promos are doing the rounds, my mates got one but keeping it to himself (bit like the Herbie Hancock album I gave to him to copy!!!) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
Black Dog as in THE Black Dog? - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd I'm quite eager to hear that one, I loved the first two... BTW, any news on the new Blackdog LP announced on Hydrogen Dukebox ? Gwendal anyone heard the new Soul Center 3 yet??? promos are doing the rounds, my mates got one but keeping it to himself (bit like the Herbie Hancock album I gave to him to copy!!!) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
Before I get too excited, I am forced to think back to the staggeringly mediocre 'Babylon' single that came out a few years back... N -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd Black Dog as in THE Black Dog? - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd I'm quite eager to hear that one, I loved the first two... BTW, any news on the new Blackdog LP announced on Hydrogen Dukebox ? Gwendal anyone heard the new Soul Center 3 yet??? promos are doing the rounds, my mates got one but keeping it to himself (bit like the Herbie Hancock album I gave to him to copy!!!) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
http://www.hydrogendukebox.com/news/?article=33 doesn't say more than: Hydrogen Dukebox are releasing the new album by The Black Dog in March 2002 The album is entitled Unsavoury Products and features the voice of Black Sifichi.. What to expect, if this really *is* The Black Dog? Methinks I'll follow Nikky's advice... Cheers, Anya From: Nikky Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed 20/Feb/2002 15:37 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd Before I get too excited, I am forced to think back to the staggeringly mediocre 'Babylon' single that came out a few years back... N -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd Black Dog as in THE Black Dog? - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd I'm quite eager to hear that one, I loved the first two... BTW, any news on the new Blackdog LP announced on Hydrogen Dukebox ? Gwendal ___ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
Er... yes ! Hydrogen Dukebox are releasing the new album by The Black Dog in March 2002 The album is entitled Unsavoury Products and features the voice of Black Sifichi.. from http://www.hydrogendukebox.com/ Gwendal Black Dog as in THE Black Dog? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
Before I get too excited, I am forced to think back to the staggeringly mediocre 'Babylon' single that came out a few years back... You're being very harsh on this one... Some of the mixes were crap - right. It wasn't pure Black Dog as we were used to - right. But crap ? I loved the use of Ofra Haza's voice on this one. BTW : the version I got is one box with two CDs sold separetely... I remember seeing in a shop (and not picking up...) a promo CD that had all of the mixes on the two CDs plus a couple of other mixes... anybody got that one ? were the extra mixes any good ? Gwednal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
I wouldn't get too excited, The Black Dog being only one of the original 3 members (Ken Dowie) who hasn't released anything remotley touching the original Black Dog Productions stuff (remember Virtual)since the other 2 members split and started Plaid. Stewart From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed 20/Feb/2002 16:46 CET To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd) http://www.hydrogendukebox.com/news/?article=33 doesn't say more than: Hydrogen Dukebox are releasing the new album by The Black Dog in March 2002 The album is entitled Unsavoury Products and features the voice of Black Sifichi.. What to expect, if this really *is* The Black Dog? Methinks I'll follow Nikky's advice... Cheers, Anya From: Nikky Stoltzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed 20/Feb/2002 15:37 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd Before I get too excited, I am forced to think back to the staggeringly mediocre 'Babylon' single that came out a few years back... N -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd Black Dog as in THE Black Dog? - Original Message - From: Gwendal Cobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd I'm quite eager to hear that one, I loved the first two... BTW, any news on the new Blackdog LP announced on Hydrogen Dukebox ? Gwendal ___ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
Yes, perhaps I am being harsh. I just feel that the Black Dog 'name' was what shifted the single(s) rather than the music itself, especially given that 'The Black Dog' now has one head instead of three, and is not really the same entity at all. I will still give the album a fair chance when it comes out, but I just find it impossible to be as enthusiastic as I was when 'Music for Adverts...' was released, for instance. But we shall see... N -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 February 2002 15:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd Before I get too excited, I am forced to think back to the staggeringly mediocre 'Babylon' single that came out a few years back... You're being very harsh on this one... Some of the mixes were crap - right. It wasn't pure Black Dog as we were used to - right. But crap ? I loved the use of Ofra Haza's voice on this one. BTW : the version I got is one box with two CDs sold separetely... I remember seeing in a shop (and not picking up...) a promo CD that had all of the mixes on the two CDs plus a couple of other mixes... anybody got that one ? were the extra mixes any good ? Gwednal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
who hasn't released anything remotley touching the original Black Dog Productions stuff Sure, his solo LP doesn't sound like the stuff BDP was doing seven years earlier, but it's still excellent...especially recommended for those into Byrne/Eno Fourth World-type collage. John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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anyone heard the new Soul Center 3 yet??? I've got it, I loved it and gave it for Jockey Slut's March ish. Very funky minimalism, with Isaac Hayes samples in there. I'd recommend it. It's on Novamute, btw, with a robot dog on the cover. I also have The Black Dog LP but haven't got around to it yet... if I do I'll try and post a reaction (even though it's not exactly 313 related, although come to think of it, neither is Brinkmann!). TOM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
I also have The Black Dog LP but haven't got around to it yet... if I do I'll try and post a reaction (even though it's not exactly 313 related, although come to think of it, neither is Brinkmann!). well, to me Black Dog was the best example of how the Detroit sound was like in Britain... Gwendal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] theblackdog. (was: Re: [313] brinkman - rosa cd)
At 09:46 AM 2/20/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.hydrogendukebox.com/news/?article=33 doesn't say more than: Hydrogen Dukebox are releasing the new album by The Black Dog in March 2002 The album is entitled Unsavoury Products and features the voice of Black Sifichi.. What to expect, if this really *is* The Black Dog? Methinks I'll follow Nikky's advice... Cheers, Anya It most certainly IS TBD. Here's a snip from Ken Himself from email volley betwixt he and myself a few months back : snip ...I'm still out herestill making a difference. After unsavoury products there will be another new album. (due out in about 'the spring' of 2002, i think). the tunes are done, and it all just needs finalising...etc...etc. Regards, Ken -- The Black Dog unsnip There you have it. Not only the Dukebox record, but yet another - and , hopefully, soon. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] brinkman - rosa cd
At 09:55 AM 2/20/2002, you wrote: Yes, perhaps I am being harsh. I just feel that the Black Dog 'name' was what shifted the single(s) rather than the music itself, especially given that 'The Black Dog' now has one head instead of three, and is not really the same entity at all. I will still give the album a fair chance when it comes out, but I just find it impossible to be as enthusiastic as I was when 'Music for Adverts...' was released, for instance. But we shall see... N Music for Adverts was Ken - not Andy, Ed Ken. He had a new partner last I heard, but I wouldn't be so quick to write TBD off. Check the Live in Toronto boot for some evidence. jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
