Re: [Re: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?]

2000-11-06 Thread Wv909
Further more it should be said that the Artist/performers should receive
compensation when there name/image etc are used on a flyer to draw $$/numbers
to an 'event'..
The tatics reinforce the ideal;When you go out ,support those who are truely
supporting , in a real and true sense.
If this seems questionable; consider the alernitive: we'll just have 
every event say that just about everyone is an Invited guest
and if no shows , no harm no foul.right?

laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm with you completely on this TP!!

Peace, Love, Unity, RESPECT!!!  The tactic used by these promoters is the 
oldest trick in the book, moreover the fact that this happened with a 
promoter from your own town makes that move a bit cheeky.

No one's grimming anyone over trying to throw a party or make some money, 
but if you're going to be in this business then respect the etiquette and 
ethics which are well known to all music 'industry' professionals because no 
one will feel offended or exploited.

Peace,

Laura


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:04:34 EST

Greetings From TP!

I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that it will
create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs  
Promoters
work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party with a
REAL RIGHT vibe!
I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or Promoters on
this list will take away something valuable which they can use.

Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I spoke
regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE EXPLOSION 
2000
event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone and
agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use of my
name.

Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong with a
person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST.
Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it, and
thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored! But how
fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet?
I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries 
throughout
the world where the laws governing such matters are different. However, 
being
here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . . . . .

  . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER IN 
DETROIT
ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL JACKSON. 
I
THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER GET A
RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES. HOWEVER, I 
TAKE
IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE STATE
THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON!

I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE MICHAEL'S
LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO ADVERTISE
MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE
WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE 
THERE.
ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD PROVE
THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG WITH A
COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH STATES
THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE, IF 
MIKE,
NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE HIS 
NAME
IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY 
EVENT?


WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A STAND 
ON
WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE 
SOMEDAY
(IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!
MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT COMMON 
TO
ALL OF US.

FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN
OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.

Peace  Respect,

TP
www.TerrenceParker.com
1.248.784.7233

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Re: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?]

2000-11-06 Thread FC3 Richards
the carl guy that is in question has also done this in the past.  he has
paid DJ's to use their name on a flier, but told them to go ahead a book
another party that night somewhere else that way they can get more money.
he also wins because that Dj draws people in.  he is a shady guy...i'm
tellin' ya.
jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 5:46 AM
 To:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  [313] Re: [Re: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their
 differences?]
 
 Further more it should be said that the Artist/performers should receive
 compensation when there name/image etc are used on a flyer to draw
 $$/numbers
 to an 'event'..
 The tatics reinforce the ideal;When you go out ,support those who are
 truely
 supporting , in a real and true sense.
 If this seems questionable; consider the alernitive: we'll just have 
 every event say that just about everyone is an Invited guest
 and if no shows , no harm no foul.right?
 
 laura gavoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm with you completely on this TP!!
 
 Peace, Love, Unity, RESPECT!!!  The tactic used by these promoters is the 
 oldest trick in the book, moreover the fact that this happened with a 
 promoter from your own town makes that move a bit cheeky.
 
 No one's grimming anyone over trying to throw a party or make some money, 
 but if you're going to be in this business then respect the etiquette and 
 ethics which are well known to all music 'industry' professionals because
 no 
 one will feel offended or exploited.
 
 Peace,
 
 Laura
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:04:34 EST
 
 Greetings From TP!
 
 I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that it
 will
 create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs  
 Promoters
 work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party with a
 REAL RIGHT vibe!
 I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or Promoters
 on
 this list will take away something valuable which they can use.
 
 Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I spoke
 regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE EXPLOSION 
 2000
 event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone and
 agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use of
 my
 name.
 
 Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong with a
 person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST.
 Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it, and
 thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored! But
 how
 fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet?
 I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries 
 throughout
 the world where the laws governing such matters are different. However, 
 being
 here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . . . .
 .
 
   . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER IN 
 DETROIT
 ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL
 JACKSON. 
 I
 THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER GET
 A
 RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES. HOWEVER, I 
 TAKE
 IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE STATE
 THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON!
 
 I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE
 MICHAEL'S
 LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO ADVERTISE
 MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT
 HE
 WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE 
 THERE.
 ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD
 PROVE
 THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG WITH
 A
 COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH
 STATES
 THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE, IF 
 MIKE,
 NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE HIS 
 NAME
 IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY 
 EVENT?
 
 
 WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A STAND
 
 ON
 WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE 
 SOMEDAY
 (IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!
 MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT
 COMMON 
 TO
 ALL OF US.
 
 FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN
 OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
 HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.
 
 Peace  Respect,
 
 TP
 www.TerrenceParker.com
 1.248.784.7233
 
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Re: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?

2000-11-05 Thread Michael Kim

hi, want to come to my house on Friday night to spin?

new flyer:

**

COME TO FRIDAY NIGHT PARTY AT MIKE'S HOUSE:

SPECIAL INVITED GUEST: DJ DMT!!

**

i don't know if you were joking or what, but this is the equivalent of what 
happened to Terrence.


Mike


From: DJ DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:33:31 +0100

SPECIAL INVITED GUEST

doesn't that mean they would only had to attend the party or to spin ?
- Original Message -
From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?


 not only that, but maybe some of the fans who came out to see Terrence 
or

 Jeff spin would be VERY sorely disappointed if they didn't, with all
respect
 to the other DJ's (who are very, very good).  and maybe the fans might 
get

 VERY mad with Terrence and Jeff for pulling a 'no-show' to an event they
 never agreed to play?

 thanks for resolving this civilly.

 Mike


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:04:34 EST
 
 Greetings From TP!
 
 I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that it
will
 create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs 
 Promoters
 work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party with 
a

 REAL RIGHT vibe!
 I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or 
Promoters

on
 this list will take away something valuable which they can use.
 
 Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I spoke
 regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE EXPLOSION
 2000
 event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone and
 agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use 
of

my
 name.
 
 Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong with 
a

 person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST.
 Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it, and
 thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored! But
how
 fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet?
 I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries
 throughout
 the world where the laws governing such matters are different. However,
 being
 here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . . . 
.

.
 
   . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER IN
 DETROIT
 ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL
JACKSON.
 I
 THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER 
GET

A
 RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES. HOWEVER, 
I

 TAKE
 IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE 
STATE

 THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON!
 
 I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE
MICHAEL'S
 LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO ADVERTISE
 MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT
HE
 WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE
 THERE.
 ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD
PROVE
 THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG 
WITH

A
 COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH
STATES
 THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE, IF
 MIKE,
 NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE HIS
 NAME
 IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY
 EVENT?
 
 
 WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A 
STAND

 ON
 WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE
 SOMEDAY
 (IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!
 MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT
COMMON
 TO
 ALL OF US.
 
 FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS 
CONCERN

 OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
 HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.
 
 Peace  Respect,
 
 TP
 www.TerrenceParker.com
 1.248.784.7233
 
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Re: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?

2000-11-05 Thread DJ DMT
ha ha

---
I wasn't joking, just reading carefully like you !
And off-course  I cought you're drift of ppl thinking he's actually gonne
perform there !
---

thanks for resolving this civilly and inviting me :)

Mbone anybody ?


- Original Message -
From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?


 hi, want to come to my house on Friday night to spin?

 new flyer:

 **

 COME TO FRIDAY NIGHT PARTY AT MIKE'S HOUSE:

 SPECIAL INVITED GUEST: DJ DMT!!

 **

 i don't know if you were joking or what, but this is the equivalent of
what
 happened to Terrence.

 Mike

 From: DJ DMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:33:31 +0100
 
 SPECIAL INVITED GUEST
 
 doesn't that mean they would only had to attend the party or to spin ?
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 6:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
 
 
   not only that, but maybe some of the fans who came out to see Terrence
 or
   Jeff spin would be VERY sorely disappointed if they didn't, with all
 respect
   to the other DJ's (who are very, very good).  and maybe the fans might
 get
   VERY mad with Terrence and Jeff for pulling a 'no-show' to an event
they
   never agreed to play?
  
   thanks for resolving this civilly.
  
   Mike
  
  
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
   Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:04:34 EST
   
   Greetings From TP!
   
   I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that
it
 will
   create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs 
   Promoters
   work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party
with
 a
   REAL RIGHT vibe!
   I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or
 Promoters
 on
   this list will take away something valuable which they can use.
   
   Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I
spoke
   regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE
EXPLOSION
   2000
   event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone
and
   agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use
 of
 my
   name.
   
   Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong
with
 a
   person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST.
   Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it,
and
   thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored!
But
 how
   fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet?
   I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries
   throughout
   the world where the laws governing such matters are different.
However,
   being
   here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . .
.
 .
 .
   
 . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER
IN
   DETROIT
   ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL
 JACKSON.
   I
   THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER
 GET
 A
   RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES.
HOWEVER,
 I
   TAKE
   IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE
 STATE
   THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON!
   
   I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE
 MICHAEL'S
   LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO
ADVERTISE
   MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY
THAT
 HE
   WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE
   THERE.
   ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD
 PROVE
   THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG
 WITH
 A
   COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH
 STATES
   THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE,
IF
   MIKE,
   NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE
HIS
   NAME
   IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY
   EVENT?
   
   
   WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A
 STAND
   ON
   WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE
   SOMEDAY
   (IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!
   MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT
 COMMON
   TO
   ALL OF US.
   
   FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS
 CONCERN
   OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
   HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.
   
   Peace  Respect,
   
   TP

RE: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?

2000-11-04 Thread FC3 Richards
if carl is who i think it is, then i know how he operates.  i don't trust
him for one second.  there is no way i would attend his party or spin at his
party.  i would not allow myself to be even associated with him or his
friends in any way shape or form.  all he cares about is money.  he doesn't
care about people having a good time or good music.  that is why i can see
him using TP's name on the flier w/o actually booking him.  TP draws people
in, and just like in porn when people come someone is making money.  in this
case it is carl.  unfortunately there are alot of people out there like
that.
jeff

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 5:05 PM
 To:   313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
 
 Greetings From TP!
 
 I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that it
 will 
 create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs 
 Promoters 
 work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party with a 
 REAL RIGHT vibe! 
 I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or Promoters
 on 
 this list will take away something valuable which they can use.
 
 Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I spoke 
 regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE EXPLOSION
 2000 
 event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone and 
 agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use of
 my 
 name. 
 
 Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong with a 
 person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. 
 Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it, and 
 thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored! But
 how 
 fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet? 
 I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries
 throughout 
 the world where the laws governing such matters are different. However,
 being 
 here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . . . . .
 
 
  . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER IN
 DETROIT 
 ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL
 JACKSON. I 
 THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER GET A
 
 RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES. HOWEVER, I
 TAKE 
 IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE STATE 
 THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON! 
 
 I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE
 MICHAEL'S 
 LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO ADVERTISE 
 MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE
 
 WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE
 THERE. 
 ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD PROVE
 
 THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG WITH A
 
 COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH STATES
 
 THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE, IF
 MIKE, 
 NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE HIS
 NAME 
 IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY
 EVENT? 
  
 
 WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A STAND
 ON 
 WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE
 SOMEDAY 
 (IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!  
 MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT COMMON
 TO 
 ALL OF US. 
 
 FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN 
 OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, 
 HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.
 
 Peace  Respect,
 
 TP
 www.TerrenceParker.com
 1.248.784.7233 
 
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Re: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?

2000-11-04 Thread JavierDrada
TP Some people just don't get it, newschoolers need allot of education, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 'em is what I gotta say, people act stupid cause they
think they can get away with it, facts are facts the approach is unethical and 
there is no need arguing about it.


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To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:04 PM
Subject: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?


: Greetings From TP!
:
: I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that it will
: create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs  Promoters
: work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party with a
: REAL RIGHT vibe!
: I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or Promoters on
: this list will take away something valuable which they can use.
:
: Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I spoke
: regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE EXPLOSION 2000
: event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone and
: agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use of my
: name.
:
: Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong with a
: person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST.
: Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it, and
: thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored! But how
: fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet?
: I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries throughout
: the world where the laws governing such matters are different. However, being
: here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . . . . .
:
:  . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER IN DETROIT
: ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL JACKSON. I
: THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER GET A
: RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES. HOWEVER, I TAKE
: IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE STATE
: THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON!
:
: I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE MICHAEL'S
: LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO ADVERTISE
: MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE
: WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE THERE.
: ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD PROVE
: THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG WITH A
: COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH STATES
: THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE, IF MIKE,
: NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE HIS NAME
: IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY EVENT?
:
:
: WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A STAND ON
: WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE SOMEDAY
: (IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!
: MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT COMMON TO
: ALL OF US.
:
: FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN
: OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
: HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.
:
: Peace  Respect,
:
: TP
: www.TerrenceParker.com
: 1.248.784.7233
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Re: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?

2000-11-04 Thread Michael Kim
not only that, but maybe some of the fans who came out to see Terrence or 
Jeff spin would be VERY sorely disappointed if they didn't, with all respect 
to the other DJ's (who are very, very good).  and maybe the fans might get 
VERY mad with Terrence and Jeff for pulling a 'no-show' to an event they 
never agreed to play?


thanks for resolving this civilly.

Mike



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Subject: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:04:34 EST

Greetings From TP!

I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that it will
create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs  
Promoters

work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party with a
REAL RIGHT vibe!
I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or Promoters on
this list will take away something valuable which they can use.

Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I spoke
regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE EXPLOSION 
2000

event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone and
agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use of my
name.

Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong with a
person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST.
Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it, and
thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored! But how
fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet?
I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries 
throughout
the world where the laws governing such matters are different. However, 
being

here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . . . . .

 . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER IN 
DETROIT
ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL JACKSON. 
I

THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER GET A
RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES. HOWEVER, I 
TAKE

IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE STATE
THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON!

I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE MICHAEL'S
LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO ADVERTISE
MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE
WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE 
THERE.

ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD PROVE
THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG WITH A
COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH STATES
THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE, IF 
MIKE,
NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE HIS 
NAME
IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY 
EVENT?



WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A STAND 
ON
WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE 
SOMEDAY

(IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!
MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT COMMON 
TO

ALL OF US.

FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN
OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.

Peace  Respect,

TP
www.TerrenceParker.com
1.248.784.7233

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Re: [313] Can Promoters DJs resolve their differences?

2000-11-04 Thread laura gavoor

I'm with you completely on this TP!!

Peace, Love, Unity, RESPECT!!!  The tactic used by these promoters is the 
oldest trick in the book, moreover the fact that this happened with a 
promoter from your own town makes that move a bit cheeky.


No one's grimming anyone over trying to throw a party or make some money, 
but if you're going to be in this business then respect the etiquette and 
ethics which are well known to all music 'industry' professionals because no 
one will feel offended or exploited.


Peace,

Laura



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [313] Can Promoters  DJs resolve their differences?
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 20:04:34 EST

Greetings From TP!

I am sharing the following information with this list in hopes that it will
create a basis for positive dialog / discussion of how we as DJs  
Promoters

work with each other to achieve the common goal of a banging party with a
REAL RIGHT vibe!
I especially hope that any aspiring / up-and-coming DJs and/or Promoters on
this list will take away something valuable which they can use.

Today Carl (the promoter behind the HOUSE EXPLOSION event) and I spoke
regarding the controversy centered on the flyer for the HOUSE EXPLOSION 
2000

event. This morning I sent an e-mail to which he responded by phone and
agreed to ALL of my demands to resolve this issue of the improper use of my
name.

Today I received 11 e-mail letters from cats who see nothing wrong with a
person's name being listed on a flyer as a SPECIAL INVITED GUEST.
Furthermore, they asked why I was making such a big deal about it, and
thought I should be honored by the invitation. Well, I was honored! But how
fine is the honor if it is bitter sweet?
I understand that many of us on this list are in various countries 
throughout
the world where the laws governing such matters are different. However, 
being

here in the USA, let me try to make my point by using an example . . . . .

 . . . . LET'S SAY I DECIDED TO THROW A PARTY AT THE STATE THEATER IN 
DETROIT
ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT. I THEN DRAFT A LETTER OF INVITATION TO MICHAEL JACKSON. 
I

THEN FAX THE LETTER TO MICHAEL JACKSON'S MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I NEVER GET A
RESPONSE FROM MICHAEL JACKSON, OR ANY OF HIS REPRESENTATIVES. HOWEVER, I 
TAKE

IT UPON MYSELF TO MAKE FLYERS ADVERTISING MY CHRISTMAS PARTY AT THE STATE
THEATER WITH SPECIAL INVITED GUEST - MICHAEL JACKSON!

I ASK YOU, MY FRIENDS, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE BEFORE MICHAEL'S
LEGAL TEAM WOULD TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME? WOULD I BE WRONG TO ADVERTISE
MICHAEL'S NAME AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST? AFTER ALL, I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE
WAS GOING TO PERFORM RIGHT? I DIDN'T EVEN SAY THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE 
THERE.

ALL I SAID WAS THAT HE WAS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST. IN FACT, I COULD PROVE
THAT I DID INDEED INVITE MR. JACKSON BY PRESENTING THE LETTER ALONG WITH A
COPY OF THE VERIFIED FAX TRANSMISSION TO MICHAEL'S MANAGEMENT WHICH STATES
THAT I AM INVITING HIM TO ATTEND MY EVENT. SO I ASK YOU GOOD PEOPLE, IF 
MIKE,
NOR HIS PEOPLE RESPOND TO MY INVITATION, DO I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE HIS 
NAME
IN ANY MANNER (EVEN AS A SPECIAL INVITED GUEST) IN PROMOTION OF MY 
EVENT?



WHY DID I MAKE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE I HAVE TO TAKE A STAND 
ON
WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME, BUT BECAUSE 
SOMEDAY

(IF NOT TODAY) IT COULD AFFECT YOU!
MY POSITION WAS BASED UPON A PRINCIPLE WHICH IS PERSONAL TO ME, BUT COMMON 
TO

ALL OF US.

FOR THE RECORD DELANO SMITH FELT AS I DID, AND ALSO EXPRESSED HIS CONCERN
OVER BEING LISTED ON THE FLYER. AS I UNDERSTAND IT,
HE TOO HAS RESOLVED HIS ISSUE WITH THE PROMOTER.

Peace  Respect,

TP
www.TerrenceParker.com
1.248.784.7233

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