Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-11 Thread Ivars Zalkalns
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 It's rubbish journalism. I know we live in an age of pathetic
superficiality
 but that Idoesn't mean that we just give up any attempt to elevate
ourselves
 and our minds. Good journalism's a part of that. Good journalism isn't
being
 too godam stoopid* to recognize a not-very-clever bit of
 advertizing masquerading as a news story.

 Some things are worth ranting about! :-)

 k







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  why is it the journalist's fault?
 
  and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?
 
  and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:
 
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm
 
  Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism
 
  When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said.
 With CDJs you
  can loop the records at whatever point you want.
 
  GGG
 
 
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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-11 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Am I supposed to care?

Good luck to you.

k

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 It's rubbish journalism. I know we live in an age of pathetic
superficiality
 but that Idoesn't mean that we just give up any attempt to elevate
ourselves
 and our minds. Good journalism's a part of that. Good journalism isn't
being
 too godam stoopid* to recognize a not-very-clever bit of
 advertizing masquerading as a news story.

 Some things are worth ranting about! :-)

 k







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 Subject: Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
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  why is it the journalist's fault?
 
  and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?
 
  and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:
 
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm
 
  Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism
 
  When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said.
 With CDJs you
  can loop the records at whatever point you want.
 
  GGG
 
 
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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-11 Thread Langsman, Marc

Has my thread scared people off the list ? :/ 

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 Am I supposed to care?
 
 Good luck to you.
 
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  It's rubbish journalism. I know we live in an age of pathetic
 superficiality
  but that Idoesn't mean that we just give up any attempt to elevate
 ourselves
  and our minds. Good journalism's a part of that. Good journalism 
  isn't
 being
  too godam stoopid* to recognize a 
 not-very-clever bit of 
  advertizing masquerading as a news story.
 
  Some things are worth ranting about! :-)
 
  k
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Subject: Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
  Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 3:18 AM
  
  
   why is it the journalist's fault?
  
   and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?
  
   and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?
  
  
  
  
   On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:
  
  
   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm
  
   Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of 
   journalism
  
   When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said.
  With CDJs you
   can loop the records at whatever point you want.
  
   GGG
  
  
  
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Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-09 Thread James Bucknell
he's not being lazy, rather, it's the opposite. he's saying he can do much
more cutting it up, dj tricks, etc. with the cd than with vinyl.

 From: Paul Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 14:30:48 +0100
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
 
 But the convenience far outweighs the little sound that you may be
 missing.
 
 Kinda sums it all up for me.
 The little sound is the whole point of music for me.
 Welcome to todays lazy socity...
 
 Oh and the other thing that annoys me is how much the BBC always pushes
 these technologies from big companies.  This isn't news, it's just doing
 their advertising for them.  Anyway, I'd better not get into a rant
 about the tabloid style BBC news as I'll being going on for ever!
 



Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-08 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Yeah, why is it the writer's fault?
;)


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 why is it the journalist's fault?

 and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?

 and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?




 On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

 Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

 When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said. With CDJs you
 can loop the records at whatever point you want.

 GGG



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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-08 Thread Odeluga, Ken

It's rubbish journalism. I know we live in an age of pathetic superficiality
but that Idoesn't mean that we just give up any attempt to elevate ourselves
and our minds. Good journalism's a part of that. Good journalism isn't being
too godam stoopid* to recognize a not-very-clever bit of
advertizing masquerading as a news story.

Some things are worth ranting about! :-)

k







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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 3:18 AM


 why is it the journalist's fault?

 and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?

 and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?




 On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

 Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

 When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said.
With CDJs you
 can loop the records at whatever point you want.

 GGG


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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-08 Thread Langsman, Marc

Aye...It could have had a slither of integrity by mentioning a) current dj
technologies [1000's are like nearly 2 years old I think] b) alternatives
[abelton, fs, yada yada] - as already mentioned x times its clearly not even
attempting to be a article on future dj technologies so much as a large
pioneer/subliminal advertisment full of tosh -- [waffle over] :)

Peace,
marc 

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 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:43 AM
 To: 313 Detroit
 Subject: RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
 
 
 
 It's rubbish journalism. I know we live in an age of pathetic 
 superficiality but that Idoesn't mean that we just give up 
 any attempt to elevate ourselves and our minds. Good 
 journalism's a part of that. Good journalism isn't being too 
 godam stoopid* to recognize a not-very-clever bit 
 of advertizing masquerading as a news story.
 
 Some things are worth ranting about! :-)
 
 k
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 3:18 AM
 
 
  why is it the journalist's fault?
 
  and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?
 
  and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:
 
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm
 
  Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism
 
  When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said.
 With CDJs you
  can loop the records at whatever point you want.
 
  GGG
 
 
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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-08 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
It's all b.s to me, if vinyl is dead, why are we currently living in an
oversaturated market of vinyl records being produced.? Everyone and
there momma wants to do vinyl and even the mainstream cats are getting back
into the market by getting remixes done on vinyl.  

But I will say one thing about something that came up earlier.

THE COST!!! 
Have dub plate manufactures addressed the extremely high cost of getting a
plate done. Are they even concern that MAYBE , just MAYBE the younger
generation of d.j.s may abandon them for c.d. or final scratch of whatever
for the simple reason that they can't afford to spend $1000 + dollars on
every release? 

Not necessarily an viewpoint, but just a thought on my part.

Ja'Maul Redmond

PERKINS  WILL

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Charlotte, North Carolina 28203



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Aye...It could have had a slither of integrity by mentioning a) current dj
technologies [1000's are like nearly 2 years old I think] b) alternatives
[abelton, fs, yada yada] - as already mentioned x times its clearly not even
attempting to be a article on future dj technologies so much as a large
pioneer/subliminal advertisment full of tosh -- [waffle over] :)

Peace,
marc 

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 From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 9:43 AM
 To: 313 Detroit
 Subject: RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
 
 
 
 It's rubbish journalism. I know we live in an age of pathetic
 superficiality but that Idoesn't mean that we just give up 
 any attempt to elevate ourselves and our minds. Good 
 journalism's a part of that. Good journalism isn't being too 
 godam stoopid* to recognize a not-very-clever bit 
 of advertizing masquerading as a news story.
 
 Some things are worth ranting about! :-)
 
 k
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 3:18 AM
 
 
  why is it the journalist's fault?
 
  and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?
 
  and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:
 
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm
 
  Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism
 
  When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said.
 With CDJs you
  can loop the records at whatever point you want.
 
  GGG
 
 
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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-08 Thread alex . bond

Have dub plate manufactures addressed the extremely high cost of getting a
plate done.

Plates cost about £25. They don't last that long I suppose, and I guess a
CD-R is cheaper.
Plus you get to beat the queue at the cutting room on Friday afternoon...

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Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread robin pinning

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

 Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

 When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said. With CDJs you
 can loop the records at whatever point you want.

not surpirsed he's boredhave you heard any Subliminal records (that
isn't that drug punks track)?

:)

robin...



Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread alex . bond

When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Erick Morillo

Ha ha ha.

I wonder how much Panasonic pay him?
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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Paul Hudson
But the convenience far outweighs the little sound that you may be
missing.

Kinda sums it all up for me.
The little sound is the whole point of music for me.  
Welcome to todays lazy socity...

Oh and the other thing that annoys me is how much the BBC always pushes
these technologies from big companies.  This isn't news, it's just doing
their advertising for them.  Anyway, I'd better not get into a rant
about the tabloid style BBC news as I'll being going on for ever!


RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Langsman, Marc

 Oh and the other thing that annoys me is how much the BBC 
 always pushes these technologies from big companies.  This 
 isn't news, it's just doing their advertising for them.  
 Anyway, I'd better not get into a rant about the tabloid 
 style BBC news as I'll being going on for ever!

...its not like the cdj1000 is even a new piece of kit which makes it all
the more blantant!! :/ 

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Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Michael Lees

 I take my filters and I'm remixing records on the fly.

Ahhh, so that's how you remix a record! He might be on to something there?

How is this different from using filters on a mixer??

The system also has a memory card that recalls edit points for tracks, 
meaning that a DJ can travel with only the card and their CDs.


Does this imply that you have your mix pre-programmed on a little card?

hmm, money has gotta be involved somewhere.


Langsman, Marc wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said. With CDJs you
can loop the records at whatever point you want. 


GGG

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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Brendan Nelson
And you could argue that if the BBC was trying to do a piece of genuine news 
(rather than advertorial) about digital DJing and so on, they should really 
mention alternative products (Ableton, Final Scratch, other makes of CD deck) 
to retain some sort of balance...

...but this is *way* off topic! :)

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 To: 'Paul Hudson'; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...
 
 
 
  Oh and the other thing that annoys me is how much the BBC 
  always pushes these technologies from big companies.  This 
  isn't news, it's just doing their advertising for them.  
  Anyway, I'd better not get into a rant about the tabloid 
  style BBC news as I'll being going on for ever!
 
 ...its not like the cdj1000 is even a new piece of kit which 
 makes it all
 the more blantant!! :/ 
 
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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread plaztikjezuz

snip
It's funny because I was a spokesman for vinyl. About two years ago I said 
vinyl will never go away, vinyl this, vinyl that, he said. 
end snip

I will tell you whats funny.that the bbc is just making a story on this. are 
not these decks a few years old. it would make more sence to do it on final 
scratch or tracktor or the one with the pink records dbx uses.

 Oh and the other thing that annoys me is how much the BBC always pushes
 these technologies from big companies.  This isn't news, it's just doing
 their advertising for them.  Anyway, I'd better not get into a rant
 about the tabloid style BBC news as I'll being going on for ever!

come on teh bbc is not as bad as cnn or fox news. american pop news channels 
are so bad. they make npr look librial. and i could go on for hour about this.

scotto
lansing, mi
plaztikjezuz.com


RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread robin pinning
  Oh and the other thing that annoys me is how much the BBC always pushes
  these technologies from big companies.  This isn't news, it's just doing
  their advertising for them.  Anyway, I'd better not get into a rant
  about the tabloid style BBC news as I'll being going on for ever!

 come on teh bbc is not as bad as cnn or fox news. american pop news
channels are so bad. they make npr look librial. and i could go on for
hour about this.


well yeah but bear in mind we all pay 110 quid a year license fee to the
govt. to fund the bbc (well all TV owners do) so we don't expect adverts.

cnn/fox has to make money off adverts to survive so you can see why they
do it

anywaywe're off topic by a long way now...

rightwhere can a get meself a cheap cdj1000? a big name dj told me to
get one :)

robin...




RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Langsman, Marc


 ...final scratch or tracktor or the 
 one with the pink records dbx uses.

Ooh whats this pink record system ? - sounds intruiging :)

Ta,
Marc

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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread robin pinning

these?

http://www.mspinky.com/online-store/scstore/

interesting that dbx uses emanyone else? how do they compare with FS?

robin...




  ...final scratch or tracktor or the
  one with the pink records dbx uses.

 Ooh whats this pink record system ? - sounds intruiging :)




Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread stewart
When has the BBC ever been on the pulse anyway? They think they are down with 
'yoof culture' because they force you to listen to Sara Cox's drivel over 
breakfast. 

I remember being in an Amsterdam record shop 12 years ago and having an 
arguement with some Machester DJ who swore blind that vinyl was dead and that 
CD mixing was the way forward. He used to come over to Europe every week to 
pick up all his techno on CD single! It ain't nothing new and if it hasnt set 
the world alight in 12 years I can't see CDs becoming the new vinyl in a hurry 
just because some Ibitza whore and the BBC say so.

Sorry, but I just hate the BBC. £12 a month I have to pay for Eastenders, Sara 
Cox and a bunch of other twaddle that I'm not interested in!

Stewart



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   Oh and the other thing that annoys me is how much the BBC always pushes
   these technologies from big companies.  This isn't news, it's just doing
   their advertising for them.  Anyway, I'd better not get into a rant
   about the tabloid style BBC news as I'll being going on for ever!
 
  come on teh bbc is not as bad as cnn or fox news. american pop news
 channels are so bad. they make npr look librial. and i could go on for
 hour about this.
 
 
 well yeah but bear in mind we all pay 110 quid a year license fee to the
 govt. to fund the bbc (well all TV owners do) so we don't expect adverts.
 
 cnn/fox has to make money off adverts to survive so you can see why they
 do it
 
 anywaywe're off topic by a long way now...
 
 rightwhere can a get meself a cheap cdj1000? a big name dj told me to
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Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Ian
On 8/7/03 9:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 It ain't nothing new and if it hasnt set
 the world alight in 12 years I can't see CDs becoming the new vinyl in a hurry

I'm not arguing against Stewart, but you do have to recognize that one of
the things that has changed significantly in the last 12 years is the ease
and low-cost of burning _anything_ you desire to a CD.  This gives the
format more appeal for some.

How much do dub plates cost nowadays?
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im



RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Langsman, Marc

*bizarre* website to say the least !!

Sounds pretty intersting :

imagine scratching the cutoff frequency and Q of a filter while
simultaneously scratching a sound sample played through that same filter.

I notice this as well...

Unlike other systems which employ timecode on vinyl, MsPinky's vinyl
records (available in black or pink) contain specially modulated physical
location stamps

..wtf is the difference !!?!? H

Any reviews about this would be appreciated !

Ta,
marc


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 these?
 
http://www.mspinky.com/online-store/scstore/

interesting that dbx uses emanyone else? how do they compare with FS?

robin...




  ...final scratch or tracktor or the
  one with the pink records dbx uses.

 Ooh whats this pink record system ? - sounds intruiging :)



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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread bt313
Havnt spoken to anyone who has used it, but one of the guys in Rub-A-Dub told 
me a while ago that Claude Young had been talking to him about it (I think he 
said he had been helping with the development of it, but not 100% sure about 
this). He definately said that it had more features than final scratch, which 
was available at this time.

Cheers
BT

 
 *bizarre* website to say the least !!
 
 Sounds pretty intersting :
 
 imagine scratching the cutoff frequency and Q of a filter while
 simultaneously scratching a sound sample played through that same filter.
 
 I notice this as well...
 
 Unlike other systems which employ timecode on vinyl, MsPinky's vinyl
 records (available in black or pink) contain specially modulated physical
 location stamps
 
 ..wtf is the difference !!?!? H
 
 Any reviews about this would be appreciated !
 
 Ta,
 marc
 
 
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  these?
  
 http://www.mspinky.com/online-store/scstore/
 
 interesting that dbx uses emanyone else? how do they compare with FS?
 
 robin...
 
 
 
 
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   one with the pink records dbx uses.
 
  Ooh whats this pink record system ? - sounds intruiging :)
 
 
 
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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Langsman, Marc

Cool - after having a look around / decipheing the site it appears that's
it's like finalscratch but with an opensource type API - which got me on to
thinking how hard would it be to buy f/s records and write the software
yourself

Peace,
marc

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 Havnt spoken to anyone who has used it, but one of the guys 
 in Rub-A-Dub told me a while ago that Claude Young had been 
 talking to him about it (I think he said he had been helping 
 with the development of it, but not 100% sure about this). He 
 definately said that it had more features than final scratch, 
 which was available at this time.
 
 Cheers
 BT
 
  
  *bizarre* website to say the least !!
  
  Sounds pretty intersting :
  
  imagine scratching the cutoff frequency and Q of a filter while 
  simultaneously scratching a sound sample played through that same 
  filter.
  
  I notice this as well...
  
  Unlike other systems which employ timecode on vinyl, MsPinky's 
  vinyl records (available in black or pink) contain 
 specially modulated 
  physical location stamps
  
  ..wtf is the difference !!?!? H
  
  Any reviews about this would be appreciated !
  
  Ta,
  marc
  
  
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   these?
   
  http://www.mspinky.com/online-store/scstore/
  
  interesting that dbx uses emanyone else? how do they 
 compare with 
  FS?
  
  robin...
  
  
  
  
...final scratch or tracktor or the
one with the pink records dbx uses.
  
   Ooh whats this pink record system ? - sounds intruiging :)
  
  
  
  
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Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




you think this means that Subliminal will only release CDs from now on? I
can only hope so, because that will mean less crap music will clog up the
house bins in record shops.

MEK



   
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  pinning   
   

   

   





 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

 Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

 When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said. With CDJs
you
 can loop the records at whatever point you want.

not surpirsed he's boredhave you heard any Subliminal records (that
isn't that drug punks track)?

:)

robin...






Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread yussel
why is it the journalist's fault?

and why are you listening to Erick Morillo?

and why do you possibly care if people uses CD players?




On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Langsman, Marc wrote:


 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

 Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

 When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said. With CDJs you
 can loop the records at whatever point you want.

 GGG

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RE: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Michael Long
Erick Morillo is a keen supporter of the new equipment


Funny that he doesn't look bored in the picture... where he is mixing on a
pair of 1210's!


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When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Erick Morillo

Ha ha ha.

I wonder how much Panasonic pay him?
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Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I thought he was retiring?

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

 Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

 When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said. With CDJs you
 can loop the records at whatever point you want.

 not surpirsed he's boredhave you heard any Subliminal records (that
 isn't that drug punks track)?

 :)

 robin...
 


Re: (313) OT: CD is the new vinyl apparently...

2003-08-07 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Retiring? - damn I hope not, he was tiring enough the first time
around...bidda bang!

thank you good night

MEK





   
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I thought he was retiring?

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3128653.stm

 Words cant describe how disgusted I am by this piece of journalism

 When I'm DJing with vinyl, I'm bored now, Mr Morillo said. With CDJs
you
 can loop the records at whatever point you want.

 not surpirsed he's boredhave you heard any Subliminal records (that
 isn't that drug punks track)?

 :)

 robin...