Re: (313) Rane SSL
aye if i were you I hold off for a while too - as you say first generation is always a bit dodgy. I waited for FS for 2 years before taking the plunge to get it but its still not really up to the quality id expect for that amount of cash (its a great system but it doesnt handle turntablism as well as it should and also lot of peeps are having technical/usb issues - tho it works fine in this area for me). >From the rumours Ive been hearing I suspect SSL will blow it out of the water on performance .. but now theres two on the market i imagine development will speed up a bit and the next gen will be da bomb. If anyones interested Ive got a FS mix up at www.langsman.com [the first one] my first recorded effort with FS. Its a mix of breaks, 313, electro, progressive and various other wacky bits n pieces - I went on a bit of sample frenzy to test out FS (got some really nice stuff off the modulations dvd!) hopefully in my next mix Im gonna try spinning some tunes and remixes Ive been working on along with stuff some mates have done as I think this is where there is a lot of benefit to be had from the whole mp3 thang. peace out, marc - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:10 AM Subject: Re: (313) Rane SSL > > > > > i'm very eager to buy fs or a similar system. i've saved the cash and it's > sitting in the bank. but i regard them as beta releases. > software is like sex - i think it's a personal failure if you have to pay > for it. if i'm spending $500 on software, i don't want to have to reinstall > my system software or screw around with drivers or extension conflicts. > for that type of money i don't want any hassles or doubts. till then... > james > www.jbucknell.com > > > > > turnstyle > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > z> To >313@hyperreal.org > 29/06/04 09:49 AM cc > > Subject >Re: (313) Rane SSL > > > > > > > > > > > > >hmm .. as I understand this system has been developed by a bunch of > Kiwi's > > for those that don't know that is people from New Zealand .. hence > the two tracks > loaded on the screen shot of the software being kiwi artist .. > > but the talk I am hearing .. is that the pitch algorithms are the > good bit . kinda french > to me .. but I think we need to wait six months to get the real > feel . will it survive the > road the vodka . and the 'smoke machine' > > the initial hype of FS .seems to have faded .. and I haven't seen > to many people really > rely on the system .. > > my interest is certainly in the latency . and I had wondered by > the flicking through the > record box thing .. while I know what I want . I often select it > by cover color or texture .. > rather than know the name .. and reading the label - new system > new tricks though . > > In the world of dj toys though . I'm more interested in the > battle of the CD decks . .. > > seems the Denon dealers have been trash talking on the Technics > Forums about > the new Technics CD decks .. > > either way .. it's all a big threat to vinyl and record shops in > the way we know it .. > > > > > > >this just appears to be a traktor immitator > > > >On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Marc Langsman wrote: > > > >> theres something called djdecks [www.djdecks.be] which can use fs, > pinky etc > > > apparently - is that the one you mean ? > > -- > . . . > . . . ... .. .. > > // > >\\ aw' yea I reckon ' > > http://www.obscure.co.nz // > > \\ >. . . . ... . > . . . > > > ForwardSourceID:NTEF32 >
Re: (313) Rane SSL
i'm very eager to buy fs or a similar system. i've saved the cash and it's
sitting in the bank. but i regard them as beta releases.
software is like sex - i think it's a personal failure if you have to pay
for it. if i'm spending $500 on software, i don't want to have to reinstall
my system software or screw around with drivers or extension conflicts.
for that type of money i don't want any hassles or doubts. till then...
james
www.jbucknell.com
turnstyle
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313@hyperreal.org
29/06/04 09:49 AM cc
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Re: (313) Rane SSL
hmm .. as I understand this system has been developed by a bunch of
Kiwi's
for those that don't know that is people from New Zealand .. hence
the two tracks
loaded on the screen shot of the software being kiwi artist ..
but the talk I am hearing .. is that the pitch algorithms are the
good bit . kinda french
to me .. but I think we need to wait six months to get the real
feel . will it survive the
road the vodka . and the 'smoke machine'
the initial hype of FS .seems to have faded .. and I haven't seen
to many people really
rely on the system ..
my interest is certainly in the latency . and I had wondered by
the flicking through the
record box thing .. while I know what I want . I often select it
by cover color or texture ..
rather than know the name .. and reading the label - new system
new tricks though .
In the world of dj toys though . I'm more interested in the
battle of the CD decks . ..
seems the Denon dealers have been trash talking on the Technics
Forums about
the new Technics CD decks ..
either way .. it's all a big threat to vinyl and record shops in
the way we know it ..
>this just appears to be a traktor immitator
>
>On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Marc Langsman wrote:
>
>> theres something called djdecks [www.djdecks.be] which can use fs,
pinky etc
> > apparently - is that the one you mean ?
--
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//
\\ aw' yea I reckon '
http://www.obscure.co.nz //
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ForwardSourceID:NTEF32
Re: (313) Rane SSL
hmm .. as I understand this system has been developed by a bunch of Kiwi's for those that don't know that is people from New Zealand .. hence the two tracks loaded on the screen shot of the software being kiwi artist .. but the talk I am hearing .. is that the pitch algorithms are the good bit . kinda french to me .. but I think we need to wait six months to get the real feel . will it survive the road the vodka . and the 'smoke machine' the initial hype of FS .seems to have faded .. and I haven't seen to many people really rely on the system .. my interest is certainly in the latency . and I had wondered by the flicking through the record box thing .. while I know what I want . I often select it by cover color or texture .. rather than know the name .. and reading the label - new system new tricks though . In the world of dj toys though . I'm more interested in the battle of the CD decks . .. seems the Denon dealers have been trash talking on the Technics Forums about the new Technics CD decks .. either way .. it's all a big threat to vinyl and record shops in the way we know it .. this just appears to be a traktor immitator On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Marc Langsman wrote: theres something called djdecks [www.djdecks.be] which can use fs, pinky etc > apparently - is that the one you mean ? -- . . . . . . ... .. .. // \\ aw' yea I reckon ' http://www.obscure.co.nz // \\ . . . . ... . . . .
Re: (313) Rane SSL
this just appears to be a traktor immitator On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Marc Langsman wrote: > theres something called djdecks [www.djdecks.be] which can use fs, pinky etc > apparently - is that the one you mean ? > > - Original Message - > From: "matt kane's brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Marc Langsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:48 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Rane SSL > > > > At 02:47 PM 6/28/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens > ource > > >code) > > > > perhaps ms. pinky from cycling74? > > -- > > unsigned short int to_yer_mama; > > http://www.mkb-dj.org > > Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >
Re: (313) Rane SSL
hey lookee there: SSL supports VBR mp3s. that's very nice. ogg too. Garrett wrote: those are the 3 i know of. i remember one or two others but i'm fairly certain then never really got out of the gate. perhaps slapped by the FS folks (legally) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's it any others? On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, matt kane's brain wrote: At 02:47 PM 6/28/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens ource code) perhaps ms. pinky from cycling74? -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>. I > don't typically know song names, but know I want to play that Perlon song, > so I flip to the Perlon sleeve when DJing. Anyone have experience with this? > How are the search features set up? Search by artist, title, label, genre, > etc?? I use FS which has a text search facility - u cant really argue with that really, no more flicking through record boxes just whap in a search string and bobs your instant digitally encoded media :) The latency on FS isnt too hot so itll be interesting to hear if/how much better the rane performs [Id kinda hope with ranes reputation for turntablist wares it would be]. Its quite funny actually ... the rane got released and there was talk of it on the stanton FS forums ... now the forums have been shut down "to provide customers with more precise information" hmm intresting ! peace, Marc
Re: (313) Rane SSL
nope, i was talking about this: http://www.mspinky.com/ or http://www.cycling74.com/products/mspinky.html At 03:52 PM 6/28/2004, Marc Langsman wrote: theres something called djdecks [www.djdecks.be] which can use fs, pinky etc apparently - is that the one you mean ? - Original Message - From: "matt kane's brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Marc Langsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Rane SSL > At 02:47 PM 6/28/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens ource > >code) > > perhaps ms. pinky from cycling74? > -- > unsigned short int to_yer_mama; > http://www.mkb-dj.org > Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Rane SSL
theres something called djdecks [www.djdecks.be] which can use fs, pinky etc apparently - is that the one you mean ? - Original Message - From: "matt kane's brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Marc Langsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) Rane SSL > At 02:47 PM 6/28/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens ource > >code) > > perhaps ms. pinky from cycling74? > -- > unsigned short int to_yer_mama; > http://www.mkb-dj.org > Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: (313) Rane SSL
those are the 3 i know of. i remember one or two others but i'm fairly certain then never really got out of the gate. perhaps slapped by the FS folks (legally) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's it any others? On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, matt kane's brain wrote: At 02:47 PM 6/28/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens ource code) perhaps ms. pinky from cycling74? -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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that's it any others? On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, matt kane's brain wrote: > At 02:47 PM 6/28/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens ource > >code) > > perhaps ms. pinky from cycling74? > -- > unsigned short int to_yer_mama; > http://www.mkb-dj.org > Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: (313) Rane SSL
At 02:47 PM 6/28/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens ource code) perhaps ms. pinky from cycling74? -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; http://www.mkb-dj.org Matthew Kane : Software Engineer : Zebra Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Rane SSL
rane is just the distributor. Serato Audio Research is the designer of the system. seems to have a couple of extra features -mic input on the interface box, (although i'm not sure what's wrong with just a mic input on your mixer) slightly more varied gui- including some sort of visual beat matching display (for wimps), and simulated spinning record label (for those who can't just look down at the record?) what really befuddles me is the fact that this is digital software that will simulate playing on a CD player (!?). The turntable makes sense- but are there people out there who really desire the CD player interface but can' be bothered to lug those pesky discs? it could be a great system. i'll have to ask tejada about it. In the meantime- I'm wondering what other systems are out there that are following in the footsteps of Final Scratch. Has anyone seen a write-up comparing them all? what was te one we were discussing a few months back (with the opens ource code) josh np- earl zinger/ speaker stack commandments On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Very interesting. One could assume, given Rane's reputation for building > bulletproof gear, that this would be a much more stable solution than that > other vinyl/computer interface... > > - jobot > > > > - Original Message - > From: Marc Langsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:54 am > Subject: (313) Rane SSL > > > Hey has anyone had a fiddle with the new Rane/Serato Scratch Live > > [Finalscratch competitor] ? Its lookin rather fly from the > > gubbins on the > > Rane website [http://www.rane.com/scratch.html] be interested to > > hear how it > > compares to FS. > > > > peace, > > Marc > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) Rane SSL
- Original Message - From: "Garrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > i keep hearing it's "better than fs" but have never been able to get a > solid inkling as to why or how Here's the answer I was given by someone that ought to know: "Apparently it's better than Final Scratch. Tracks better, has less latency and overall quicker response. But the interface looks cheesy. If you can handle that, it's apparently got better codecs."
Re: (313) Rane SSL
Very interesting. One could assume, given Rane's reputation for building bulletproof gear, that this would be a much more stable solution than that other vinyl/computer interface... - jobot - Original Message - From: Marc Langsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:54 am Subject: (313) Rane SSL > Hey has anyone had a fiddle with the new Rane/Serato Scratch Live > [Finalscratch competitor] ? Its lookin rather fly from the > gubbins on the > Rane website [http://www.rane.com/scratch.html] be interested to > hear how it > compares to FS. > > peace, > Marc > > >
Re: (313) Rane SSL
i keep hearing it's "better than fs" but have never been able to get a solid inkling as to why or how Marc Langsman wrote: Hey has anyone had a fiddle with the new Rane/Serato Scratch Live [Finalscratch competitor] ? Its lookin rather fly from the gubbins on the Rane website [http://www.rane.com/scratch.html] be interested to hear how it compares to FS. peace, Marc
RE: (313) Rane SSL
I know nothing about this product, but we had John Tejada DJ here in Atlanta last week and he was using it. This was the first I had heard of it, it looked pretty cool. Since I have never used FS either I can't really say if it was better/worse/different, but what I can say is that Tejada is a killer DJ and knew how to use the product quite well. Here is a link to a few photos of him in action, you can't really see the interface in the photos, but his powerbook is over to the right of the turntables, click either forward or backward for a few other photos as well: http://www.latenightessentials.com/gallery/viewer.phtml?gal=tejada&count=23 As I was watching him in action I was wondering if it's a tough transition to go from using a bag of 100+ records at a gig to having an infinite amount of music to choose from that must be searched on one's laptop harddrive. I don't typically know song names, but know I want to play that Perlon song, so I flip to the Perlon sleeve when DJing. Anyone have experience with this? How are the search features set up? Search by artist, title, label, genre, etc?? Adam www.tranzfuse.com www.latenightessentials.com -Original Message- From: Marc Langsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 5:54 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Rane SSL Hey has anyone had a fiddle with the new Rane/Serato Scratch Live [Finalscratch competitor] ? Its lookin rather fly from the gubbins on the Rane website [http://www.rane.com/scratch.html] be interested to hear how it compares to FS. peace, Marc
