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Thousand finger man Candido - Thousand Finger Man on the salsoul album dancin´ prancin´. Great stuff. Cheers, Maarten
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Many thanks to all for the immediate response! mike -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:10 PM To: Michael Long; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track ID Thousand finger man Candido - Thousand Finger Man on the salsoul album dancin´ prancin´. Great stuff. Cheers, Maarten
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This has to be one of the most tedious and self-centered threads on this list in quite a while, and we've had our history of those. Concerning MEK, who can certainly defend himself well indeed, I would only note that Mr. techno who accuses everyone else of misreading what he has written clearly didn't bother to discern what Michael actually said. So isn't it time to move on, already? As a non-African American who grew up with soul music, and that was 40 years ago, I suggest we simply acknowledge that Ron Hardy was a genius, the rebirth of interest in 1980s music isn't all just about retro-glamor, and DHP is one of the true gems on the Internet because it can teach us all some history, including those of us who lived through those times but weren't lucky enough to be in Chicago or Detroit in 1985. As for soul music, I was reminded yet again of its true greatness when I was sitting in a Starbucks in downtown DC on Friday (not because I like Starbucks but because I was doing some work-related email while traveling and they all have wireless access points now). And the store music system was playing a string of just classic soul from Marvin Gaye, Dionne Warwick, Otis Redding, you name it. Maybe not some of the rawer stuff we used to buy at Waxie Maxie's (when there was just the one at 10th F), but still. phred (who bought Booker T the MGs' Time is Tight and Pink Floyd's Meddle album when they first came out and still has 'em both, which makes me older than some of your parents I guess) PS - hey stevepwats, referring to private email to support your point is one of the oldest and weakest rhetorical devices on the Internet. How's about we just let this all go now and MOVE ON. PPS - My friend Ramon Wells, who used to be the label boss at Eightball and now runs Dotdotdot Records and has been everywhere and done everything told me he went to a Billboard dance music convention one year. He goes into the panel on house music and stands up in the audience and says, house music is all disco!, and gets everyone all riled up, then he goes into the techno symposium and gets up and says, techno is all about house and causes pandemonium. His point, obviously, is that everything comes from somewhere, and if you know the history you know your own music and times that much better.
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Why did you bring up the topic of DISCO? Now you have me going through my collection and listening to those great records. I am suppose to be putting together a best of Detroit Techno 2002 segment for my radio show. I appreciate these records more than I did in the 70's (I am 48). Here are some more to track down and enjoy: 1. Cerrone Supernature/ Love In C Minor (Malligator/ Cotillion) 2. Kano Kano LP esp. It's A War (Emergency) 3. Kebekelektrik Magic Fly/ Bolero/ War Dance (Les Disques Direction/ Salsoul) 4. Machine There But For The Grace Of God Go I (Hologram/ RCA) 5. Macho I'm A Man (Prelude) 6. Beautiful Bend That's The Meaning/ Boogie Motion (Marlin) 7. Giorgio Moroder From Here To Eternity (Casablanca) 8. Peter Jaeques Band Fire Night Dance (Prelude) 9. Quartz Beyond The Clouds (Marlin) 10. The Salsoul Orchestra Magic Bird Of Fire (Salsoul) 11. Space Magic Fly LP (United Artists) 12. Gino Soccio Outline LP esp. Dancer (RFC/ Warner Bros.) 13. T-Connection Do What You Wanna Do (Disco Version) (T.K. Productions) 14. Tantra The Double Album esp. The Hills of Katmandu (Importe/ 12) 15. Voyage East To West/ Souvenirs (Marlin) Remember that Dan Sicko's Techno Rebels mentioned several disco records as Detroit influences. Never forget the roots. You might be surprised how good some of these records still sound. O.L. - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED]; techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:33 AM Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id How about a disco top ten Maarten? I know the list has been here before, but I'm always interested in studious people's lists. Be much obliged. k
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Whats wrong with lemon.. I got a couple of nice mixes of that... Never played that one tho.. Also what was that dub mix of stevie wondr he played... Never heard that version before p Yep Dan the man, I'll be down at 'Plastic People' tomorrow night for Moodyman with the rest of the 'superficial' gang dude! ;o) Ken, and Dan if that's Mr. Butler, I didn't see either of you? What a night, especially after it cleared out a bit and he wasn't playing that awful U2 remix. I didn't get my groove on till, what I have since learned was, All Over Your Face by Ronnie Dyson got dropped. Later, when he dropped Sparkle Disco Madness followed by Rare Essence Disco Fever... Woohoo! Then I was jumping and screaming to Jazz Is The Teacher. Dunno what the record Placid is asking about was, but it was evil. I intend to go out a lot more this year :)
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Wow - yeah. Techno really got me there I guess - I'm at a total loss for words. Attention 313 list members! Do not attempt to debate anything with techno - he's a wordsmith of the highest order and will out-debate anyone with his complete mastery of the art of confusion. Now *that* was probably uncalled for moving on MEK Fred Heutte [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org ta.com cc: Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id 01/12/03 09:31 PM This has to be one of the most tedious and self-centered threads on this list in quite a while, and we've had our history of those. Concerning MEK, who can certainly defend himself well indeed, I would only note that Mr. techno who accuses everyone else of misreading what he has written clearly didn't bother to discern what Michael actually said. So isn't it time to move on, already? As a non-African American who grew up with soul music, and that was 40 years ago, I suggest we simply acknowledge that Ron Hardy was a genius, the rebirth of interest in 1980s music isn't all just about retro-glamor, and DHP is one of the true gems on the Internet because it can teach us all some history, including those of us who lived through those times but weren't lucky enough to be in Chicago or Detroit in 1985. As for soul music, I was reminded yet again of its true greatness when I was sitting in a Starbucks in downtown DC on Friday (not because I like Starbucks but because I was doing some work-related email while traveling and they all have wireless access points now). And the store music system was playing a string of just classic soul from Marvin Gaye, Dionne Warwick, Otis Redding, you name it. Maybe not some of the rawer stuff we used to buy at Waxie Maxie's (when there was just the one at 10th F), but still. phred (who bought Booker T the MGs' Time is Tight and Pink Floyd's Meddle album when they first came out and still has 'em both, which makes me older than some of your parents I guess) PS - hey stevepwats, referring to private email to support your point is one of the oldest and weakest rhetorical devices on the Internet. How's about we just let this all go now and MOVE ON. PPS - My friend Ramon Wells, who used to be the label boss at Eightball and now runs Dotdotdot Records and has been everywhere and done everything told me he went to a Billboard dance music convention one year. He goes into the panel on house music and stands up in the audience and says, house music is all disco!, and gets everyone all riled up, then he goes into the techno symposium and gets up and says, techno is all about house and causes pandemonium. His point, obviously, is that everything comes from somewhere, and if you know the history you know your own music and times that much better.
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on 1/11/03 4:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh man - the more I read your posts the more sorry I feel for you. MEK That should be: Oh man - the more I read your post the more I feel sorry for you. I vote techno the stupidest person on the list, your a racist. YOU DON'T GET IT DO YOU?! Look a ta me I'm MEK all I know how to do is brown nose and act politically correct. How dare you call disco GAY? Someone censor this techno guy's email from making it to the list his opinion is too controversial he's not kissing ass!!!
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i vote TECHNO the stupidest subscriber to 313. look at the examples below. i rest my case. From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. I wish that was the case but I would disagree, most people are influenced by trend. i.e., soul _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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That was completely uncalled for - that's the kind of sh*t I'd expect to see on some rave bulletin board MEK ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org ail.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:14 PM i vote TECHNO the stupidest subscriber to 313. look at the examples below. i rest my case. From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. I wish that was the case but I would disagree, most people are influenced by trend. i.e., soul _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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thanks for the tips sakari, ollie james what's your problem technosteve? so i'm not supposed to request ron hardy id's because you see disco, soul, black music as a threat to your techno? you scared? i don't care
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thanks for the tips sakari, ollie james what's your problem technosteve? so i'm not supposed to request ron hardy id's because you see disco, soul, black music as a threat to your techno? you scared? i don't care
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thanks for the tips sakari, ollie james what's your problem technosteve? so i'm not supposed to request ron hardy id's because you see disco, soul, black music as a threat to your techno? you scared? i don't care
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I'm not suprised by this type of behaviour, politics as usual. It just goes to show that what I have to say hit's a little too close to home for some people. I noticed a lot of hostile reponses coming from the UK. My advice is to people is stay true to yourself, know who you are and where you come from. It's good to learn and appreciate music from another culture, (I'm also amazed by Ron Hardy listening to the DHP archives) but don't try and be something your not, that's being disrespectful. The musical term soul is assoisasted with African American culture. Artist such as Stevie Wonder, Aritha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Diana Ross Supremes, Motown. I will not get into the theoretical concept of soul because my views are too controversial for this list. I'd much rather focus on the discussion of 313 music, the reason I subscribed to the list. Eddie Fowlkes was the first to use the techno soul concept way before it became popular. on 1/10/03 7:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was completely uncalled for - that's the kind of sh*t I'd expect to see on some rave bulletin board MEK ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org ail.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:14 PM i vote TECHNO the stupidest subscriber to 313. look at the examples below. i rest my case. From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. I wish that was the case but I would disagree, most people are influenced by trend. i.e., soul _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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If you been actually reading my email I did say the trend in Disco, 80's nostalgia is overplayed in my opinion. Then I suggested the idea of a classic techno page. on 1/11/03 7:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the tips sakari, ollie james what's your problem technosteve? so i'm not supposed to request ron hardy id's because you see disco, soul, black music as a threat to your techno? you scared? i don't care
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Oh man - the more I read your posts the more sorry I feel for you. MEK techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id 01/11/03 07:50 AM I'm not suprised by this type of behaviour, politics as usual. It just goes to show that what I have to say hit's a little too close to home for some people. I noticed a lot of hostile reponses coming from the UK. My advice is to people is stay true to yourself, know who you are and where you come from. It's good to learn and appreciate music from another culture, (I'm also amazed by Ron Hardy listening to the DHP archives) but don't try and be something your not, that's being disrespectful. The musical term soul is assoisasted with African American culture. Artist such as Stevie Wonder, Aritha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Diana Ross Supremes, Motown. I will not get into the theoretical concept of soul because my views are too controversial for this list. I'd much rather focus on the discussion of 313 music, the reason I subscribed to the list. Eddie Fowlkes was the first to use the techno soul concept way before it became popular. on 1/10/03 7:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was completely uncalled for - that's the kind of sh*t I'd expect to see on some rave bulletin board MEK ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org ail.com cc: Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:14 PM i vote TECHNO the stupidest subscriber to 313. look at the examples below. i rest my case. From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. I wish that was the case but I would disagree, most people are influenced by trend. i.e., soul _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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| -Original Message- | From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 13:13 | | I hear the same stuff about techno except people think back | to 2 Unlimited, and Moby. Exactly - in fact, Moby is still often referred to as a techno artist by a lot of journalists. Popular perceptions of what techno music actually is are probably further off the mark than perceptions of disco, in fact - when your average person thinks of disco, they think of bad disco (ABBA co), while an average person thinking of techno doesn't even think of bad techno. Instead, they think of euro-pop, trance, Moby, and stuff like that - stuff that doesn't fit the definition of techno even in the broadest sense of the word. Brendan
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on 1/10/03 7:13 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. I met this one dude who claimed he's always been into Larry Heard the guy didn't even know bring down the walls In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. and you people are getting on my ass about this soul trend being superficail.
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So f***ing what? What has someone's parents record collection got to do with anything? When are you going to understand that most people buy music cos they like it, not because they're being loyal to a fashion, or because they're read that something is cool? I'm beginning to suspect that your digs at other people's tastes come from a deep-rooted anxiety about your own identity and taste in music. How many times do we have to tell you? We don't all see music the way you see it. -Original Message- From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id on 1/10/03 7:13 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. I met this one dude who claimed he's always been into Larry Heard the guy didn't even know bring down the walls In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. and you people are getting on my ass about this soul trend being superficail. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| -Original Message- | From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 13:48 | | I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep | house or knowable about disco and funk music your not | going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. So what? I claim to be knowledgable about late 80s and early 90s UK electronic music, but you won't find any B12/ART/Likemind/Rephlex records in *my* parents' record collection. Should people only be allowed to like music that their parents liked? Brendan
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I've never heard of 'Bring Down The Walls' but I've heard of Tony Lee 'Reach Up' for instance, does that make me superficial? Does proper afro-beat in my parents' record collection not count? Your reasoning is crass to the point of headcrushing, mate. Why don't you shut tf up, thereby switching off the stupidity which outflows whenever you send a message? -Original Message- From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id on 1/10/03 7:13 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. I met this one dude who claimed he's always been into Larry Heard the guy didn't even know bring down the walls In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. and you people are getting on my ass about this soul trend being superficail.
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How about a disco top ten Maarten? 1) First choice - let no man putasunder (ron hardy re-edit) [ unreleased ] listen here: http://www.morthenkiang.com/all-time_audio/letnomanron.ram 2) Loose Joints - Is It All Over My Face [ west end ] 3) The Strikers - Body Music [ prelude ] 4) Candido - Thousand Finger Man [ salsoul ] 5) Sharron Redd - can you handle it? (françois k mix) [ prelude ] 6) Willy Hutch - Brother´s Gonna Work It Out [ vampin ] 7) Pam Todd Love Exchange - Let´s Get Togheter [ vault ] 8) Bumblebee Unlimited - Everybody Dance [ ? (canadian label) ] 9) Bumblebee Unlimited - Love Bug [ ? (american label) ] 10) ? - Peaches And Prunes [ (got this on bootleg, forgot the artist) ] Cheers, Maarten
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techno wrote on Fri, 10 Jan 2003 about following: I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. mm my parents record collection has some reggae, some chicago, some european disco (abba, boney m, and the like), some african music, some jazz and lots of various other sort of music, so i grew up listening to all this mixed up. and i've now been into house, be it deep or whatever since i heard crystal waters gypsy woman back in '91. also; i don't claim to know everything about funk or disco. I met this one dude who claimed he's always been into Larry Heard the guy didn't even know bring down the walls In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. just because one guy is like that you think all of us are like that? sakke -- - * time to jack * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
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My parents' record collection is nothing but opera and classical. The only non-classical they have is Sgt Pepper. Does that means I'm not allowed to like electronic music? -Original Message- From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:46 PM To: techno Cc: 313 Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id techno wrote on Fri, 10 Jan 2003 about following: I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. mm my parents record collection has some reggae, some chicago, some european disco (abba, boney m, and the like), some african music, some jazz and lots of various other sort of music, so i grew up listening to all this mixed up. and i've now been into house, be it deep or whatever since i heard crystal waters gypsy woman back in '91. also; i don't claim to know everything about funk or disco. I met this one dude who claimed he's always been into Larry Heard the guy didn't even know bring down the walls In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. just because one guy is like that you think all of us are like that? sakke -- - * time to jack * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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mm my parents record collection has some reggae, some chicago, some european disco (abba, boney m, and the like), some african music, some jazz and lots of various other sort of music, so i grew up listening to all this mixed up. and i've now been into house, be it deep or whatever since i heard crystal waters gypsy woman back in '91. also; i don't claim to know everything about funk or disco. My parents have no records at all!!! But I force my mother to listen to my mixes ;) She actually likes hayden andre - tribal life.. well have you ever :-P The only record she know is some James Brown and skyy - first time around. Cheers, Maarten
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techno wrote: on 1/10/03 7:13 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. This argument baffles me to say the least?! A friend of mine is one of the biggest motown/northen soul dealers in the UK and he hates deep house, as does his son. Please explain your reasoning behind this? In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. Peoples taste changes as they're introduced into different types of music, if it didn't we'd all be listening to nusery rhymes?! and you people are getting on my ass about this soul trend being superficail. I appreciate what you're trying to get at, but I don't think you'll find many people of this type on this list? -- Mike
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And another thing - you are saying we're all superficial, yet you have just judged someone's tastes from what they wear! I am astounded at your own petty superficiality. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:35 PM To: 'techno'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id So f***ing what? What has someone's parents record collection got to do with anything? When are you going to understand that most people buy music cos they like it, not because they're being loyal to a fashion, or because they're read that something is cool? I'm beginning to suspect that your digs at other people's tastes come from a deep-rooted anxiety about your own identity and taste in music. How many times do we have to tell you? We don't all see music the way you see it. -Original Message- From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:48 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id on 1/10/03 7:13 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. I met this one dude who claimed he's always been into Larry Heard the guy didn't even know bring down the walls In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. and you people are getting on my ass about this soul trend being superficail. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And I'm astounded there's still folks who rise to his baits. Although I have to admit I was tempted by the parents's-record- collection comment too. : ) Gotta love Fridays. ; ) Anya -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:53 PM To: Robert Taylor; 'techno'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id And another thing - you are saying we're all superficial, yet you have just judged someone's tastes from what they wear! I am astounded at your own petty superficiality.
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Well you know what Eminem says - nobody listens to techno anyway :) | -Original Message- | From: Stang Anya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 14:59 | To: 313 | Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id | | | And I'm astounded there's still folks who rise to his baits. | Although I have to admit I was tempted by the parents's-record- | collection comment too. : ) | Gotta love Fridays. ; ) | | Anya | | -Original Message- | From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:53 PM | To: Robert Taylor; 'techno'; 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id | | | And another thing - you are saying we're all superficial, yet | you have just | judged someone's tastes from what they wear! | I am astounded at your own petty superficiality. |
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Maarten Baute wrote on Fri, 10 Jan 2003 about following: But I force my mother to listen to my mixes ;) She actually likes hayden andre - tribal life.. well have you ever :-P my mother actually likes lots of house, even some of the melodic techno too. some old derrick may tracks are even requested occasionally! (the beginning, it is what it is; and she likes the unreleased mix of strings that is on retrotechnodetroitdefinite (or something like that) cd) sakke -- - * time to jack * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
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yo ken! here are 10 discoish tunes (where exactly are we drawing the line here though, or shouldn't I get into that?), don't really know enough to have a top 10 though eddie kendricks - girl you need a change of mind crown heights affair - far out the whatnauts - help is on the way diana ross - love hangover john davis monster orchestra - bourgie bourgie roy ayers - hey uh what you say come on central line - walking into sunshine (larry levan edit) mfsb - love is the message funkadelic - (not just) knee deep marvin gaye - got to give it up see you down plastic people tomorrow? Dan
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Some excellent selections here - some of these tracks start playing in my head for the first time in years - brilliant! Thanx all. My disco top ten coming up before I go home ... Yep Dan the man, I'll be down at 'Plastic People' tomorrow night for Moodyman with the rest of the 'superficial' gang dude! ;o) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:14 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id yo ken! here are 10 discoish tunes (where exactly are we drawing the line here though, or shouldn't I get into that?), don't really know enough to have a top 10 though eddie kendricks - girl you need a change of mind crown heights affair - far out the whatnauts - help is on the way diana ross - love hangover john davis monster orchestra - bourgie bourgie roy ayers - hey uh what you say come on central line - walking into sunshine (larry levan edit) mfsb - love is the message funkadelic - (not just) knee deep marvin gaye - got to give it up see you down plastic people tomorrow? Dan
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A painfully obvious list that's prone to all kinds of memory slippage: 01 Logg - Dancing into the Stars 02 Martin Circus - Disco Circus 03 Cloud One - Disco Juice 04 Was (Not Was) - Wheel Me Out 05 Central Line - Walking into Sunshine 06 D Train - You're the One for Me 07 Klein + MBO - Dirty Talk 08 Inner Life - Moment of My Life 09 Class Action - Weekend 10 Northend - Tee's Happy 11 Shalamar - Right in the Socket 12 Nick Straker Band - A Little Bit of Jazz 13 Universal Robot Band - Barely Breaking Even 14 PiL - Death Disco (hehe, counts in my book) Andy (Proud owner of every ABBA record)
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Hmm Well right off the bat I'd say Martin Circus' Disco Circus I'll put togther something this weekend... MEK Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED], techno [EMAIL PROTECTED], ones.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 01/10/03 05:34 AMSubject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id Yeah you too Michael, please! Cheers, k -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:34 AM To: Maarten Baute; techno; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id How about a disco top ten Maarten? I know the list has been here before, but I'm always interested in studious people's lists. Be much obliged. k
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on 1/10/03 8:34 AM, Robert Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So f***ing what? What has someone's parents record collection got to do with anything? I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. When are you going to understand that most people buy music cos they like it, not because they're being loyal to a fashion, or because they're read that something is cool? I wish that was the case but I would disagree, most people are influenced by trend. i.e., soul I'm beginning to suspect that your digs at other people's tastes come from a deep-rooted anxiety about your own identity and taste in music. No, I have good vision, know what I like in music. How many times do we have to tell you? We don't all see music the way you see it. Some of you have agreed with me privately so I know I'm not alone on this.
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don't you mean your parents music. Wow you really do assume too much . No I don't mean my parents music - my parents were listening to Jimmy Dorsey and other big band music of the 40s and 50s when they were kids so that must make me - GASP! - at least 30 years old! I was born before the disco era and I grew up in first stages of the disco era so no I'm not talking about my parents music - my parents don't understand disco beyond the fact that it's music to dance to. and their absolutely right. disco has it's roots in gay club culture and so does the origins of house music. and house begat techno so therefore techno has its roots in gay club culture as well. It's not some six degrees of separation either. House music in Chicago back in the day wasn't being played in straight heterosexual clubs - as you can read below: While Frankie Knuckles had laid the groundwork for house at the Warehouse, it was to be another DJ from the gay scene that was really [sic] to create the environment for the house explosion - Ron Hardy. http://music.hyperreal.org/library/history_of_house.html When I first started recording Chicago house and Detroit techno on the radio around 1989 I would pause out the black vocals. Really? That's too bad ;) Seems by doing so you subtracted a prime component of that music. I can see what you were interested in (the machine sounds) but taking out the vocals and the messages? Hmmm. A personal call I guess Although I would later come to love Chicago vocal house like Ten City. I was more interested in the TR-808, TR-909 beats you would hear in Chicago house which was lacking in Industrial Wax Trax, New Wave dance music from that time. I remember liking the vocals in No UFO's and PHUTURE but no way would I have been into disco. [Not to single you out but can I ask why you are/were so strongly against disco? As I see it - all the dance music is an extension of disco. Maybe it's better if you and I take this section of the topic off-list?] MEK techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:13 AM Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] don't you mean your parents music. they think disco is music that gay people listen to (I've heard it from their mouths). c When I tell people , kids from my age who go to parties.. when I tell them I like disco very much.. they keep telling me stories about abba and so on... they don´t know there are also good records... they think it is one big cheese bowl. Disco has just a really bad reputation with the kids I tell you... make em listen to Hardy I would say! I hear the same stuff about techno except people think back to 2 Unlimited, and Moby. on 1/9/03 11:06 AM, Maarten Baute at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tell you one thing: the day I discovered disco and soul and old skool elektro, my mixes didn´t sound boring anymore... ;) Even if I play the same style of techno, by discovering the roots an other music I know to bring more variation in a mix. When I first started recording Chicago house and Detroit techno on the radio around 1989 I would pause out the black vocals. Although I would later come to love Chicago vocal house like Ten City. I was more interested in the TR-808, TR-909 beats you would hear in Chicago house which was lacking in Industrial Wax Trax, New Wave dance music from that time. I remember liking the vocals in No UFO's and PHUTURE but no way would I have been into disco. And that´s a good thing I reckon. When I tell people , kids from my age who go to parties.. when I tell them I like disco very much.. they keep telling me stories about abba and so on... they don´t know there are also good records... they think it is one big cheese bowl. Disco has just a really bad reputation with the kids I tell you... make em listen to Hardy I would say! Cheers, Maarten Well
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On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 10:39 AM, techno wrote: I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. Wow, I never thought of that -- I'll stop listening immediately.
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YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT DO YOU? -Original Message- From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:40 PM To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id on 1/10/03 8:34 AM, Robert Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So f***ing what? What has someone's parents record collection got to do with anything? I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. When are you going to understand that most people buy music cos they like it, not because they're being loyal to a fashion, or because they're read that something is cool? I wish that was the case but I would disagree, most people are influenced by trend. i.e., soul I'm beginning to suspect that your digs at other people's tastes come from a deep-rooted anxiety about your own identity and taste in music. No, I have good vision, know what I like in music. How many times do we have to tell you? We don't all see music the way you see it. Some of you have agreed with me privately so I know I'm not alone on this. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 08:22 AM, Dan Sicko wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 10:39 AM, techno wrote: I was illustrating a point: how the trend in soul is superficial, it really doesn't reflect peoples musical backgrounds which are not African American. Wow, I never thought of that -- I'll stop listening immediately. does this also apply to jazz? if so then someone needs to dig up that poser Gil Evans and give him a good talking to.
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Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. And I should bloody hope so too !!! -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
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So you keep referring to people's *parents* which leads me to assume that you are rather young yourself. I don't know what my parent's record collection has to do with my taste in music (which is really quite diverse) - My parents have clay 78s - not vinyl - CLAY - with records on labels such as Decca and Bluebird. I can see what you're saying about people outside of the 313-list community - there are most likely more musically ignorant people than knowledgeable - go to mp3.com and look at what some people label their music as - most of those who tag their music techno or Detroit techno wouldn't know what techno was if Derrick May walked up to them and slapped them across the head with a 12 of Strings of Life. But Soul has never been superficial or trendy - to badly paraphrase Cannonball Adderley either you have it or you don't. MEK techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:47 AM on 1/10/03 7:13 AM, techno at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] I guarantee a lot of people who claim they are into deep house or knowable about disco and funk music your not going to see a lot of Motown in their parents LP collection. I met this one dude who claimed he's always been into Larry Heard the guy didn't even know bring down the walls In the early 90's this guy was wearing a Front 242 T-shirt and a wallet chain, Doc Martins. and you people are getting on my ass about this soul trend being superficail.
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most of those who tag their music techno or Detroit techno wouldn't know what techno was if Derrick May walked up to them and slapped them across the head with a 12 of Strings of Life. This is a nice qoute actually . quite funny. We should keep a 313 quote album or something. Cheers, Maarten
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Hey! ABBA is pretty f*cking cool. Their music has got some great pop arrangements and I wouldn't even consider them to be disco in the first place! Would you call Madonna a house musician? She's had house remixes of her tracks and she's had some loose ties with the NY disco scene during the 80s but she's no house singer. Just because ABBA got played on the mainstream dancefloors, VH-1 lumps them into their disco TV special (hypothetically), they wore bell-bottom jump suits (what musician didn't back then?), and they sang under a disco ball DOES NOT make them disco! Hell, Pink Floyd sings under a giant disco ball now. OK so Madonna may not be the best comparison... MEK Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: techno [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org ine.co.uk cc: Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:57 AM | -Original Message- | From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 13:13 | | I hear the same stuff about techno except people think back | to 2 Unlimited, and Moby. Exactly - in fact, Moby is still often referred to as a techno artist by a lot of journalists. Popular perceptions of what techno music actually is are probably further off the mark than perceptions of disco, in fact - when your average person thinks of disco, they think of bad disco (ABBA co), while an average person thinking of techno doesn't even think of bad techno. Instead, they think of euro-pop, trance, Moby, and stuff like that - stuff that doesn't fit the definition of techno even in the broadest sense of the word. Brendan
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Hell, Pink Floyd sings under a giant disco ball now. Actually, Floyd used them at a time when they weren't called that, I think. Seems like they had one for the Meddle tour. How's that for my parents' record collection? Whoops - that was MY record collection. jeff np- Fearless
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It was funny , I was watching some 'top 100 floor fillers' pap on VH1 over xmas (through incredible lack of decent television' and Waterloo was no.1 - they were chatting to one of the dudes (benny?) who was amused that they'd had such a monster success out of what he considered now looking back on things to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not his words exactly but pretty much the point he made) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:02 PM To: Brendan Nelson Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; techno Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id Hey! ABBA is pretty f*cking cool. Their music has got some great pop arrangements and I wouldn't even consider them to be disco in the first place! Would you call Madonna a house musician? She's had house remixes of her tracks and she's had some loose ties with the NY disco scene during the 80s but she's no house singer. Just because ABBA got played on the mainstream dancefloors, VH-1 lumps them into their disco TV special (hypothetically), they wore bell-bottom jump suits (what musician didn't back then?), and they sang under a disco ball DOES NOT make them disco! Hell, Pink Floyd sings under a giant disco ball now. OK so Madonna may not be the best comparison... MEK Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: techno [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org ine.co.uk cc: Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:57 AM | -Original Message- | From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 13:13 | | I hear the same stuff about techno except people think back to 2 | Unlimited, and Moby. Exactly - in fact, Moby is still often referred to as a techno artist by a lot of journalists. Popular perceptions of what techno music actually is are probably further off the mark than perceptions of disco, in fact - when your average person thinks of disco, they think of bad disco (ABBA co), while an average person thinking of techno doesn't even think of bad techno. Instead, they think of euro-pop, trance, Moby, and stuff like that - stuff that doesn't fit the definition of techno even in the broadest sense of the word. Brendan -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
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Well, as any restroom attendant will tell you - some crap doesn't smell as bad as others. :D MEK Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], .com Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org, techno [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/03 11:34 AMSubject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id It was funny , I was watching some 'top 100 floor fillers' pap on VH1 over xmas (through incredible lack of decent television' and Waterloo was no.1 - they were chatting to one of the dudes (benny?) who was amused that they'd had such a monster success out of what he considered now looking back on things to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not his words exactly but pretty much the point he made) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:02 PM To: Brendan Nelson Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; techno Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id Hey! ABBA is pretty f*cking cool. Their music has got some great pop arrangements and I wouldn't even consider them to be disco in the first place! Would you call Madonna a house musician? She's had house remixes of her tracks and she's had some loose ties with the NY disco scene during the 80s but she's no house singer. Just because ABBA got played on the mainstream dancefloors, VH-1 lumps them into their disco TV special (hypothetically), they wore bell-bottom jump suits (what musician didn't back then?), and they sang under a disco ball DOES NOT make them disco! Hell, Pink Floyd sings under a giant disco ball now. OK so Madonna may not be the best comparison... MEK Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: techno [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org ine.co.uk cc: Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id 01/10/03 07:57 AM | -Original Message- | From: techno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 13:13 | | I hear the same stuff about techno except people think back to 2 | Unlimited, and Moby. Exactly - in fact, Moby is still often referred to as a techno artist by a lot of journalists. Popular perceptions of what techno music actually is are probably further off the mark than perceptions of disco, in fact - when your average person thinks of disco, they think of bad disco (ABBA co), while an average person thinking of techno doesn't even think of bad techno. Instead, they think of euro-pop, trance, Moby, and stuff like that - stuff that doesn't fit the definition of techno even in the broadest sense of the word. Brendan -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
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I noticed there's either a huge delay when sending replys to the list or they dont show up at all. I'm not even the one name calling or using the F word.
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Yeah you too Michael, please! Cheers, k -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:34 AM To: Maarten Baute; techno; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id How about a disco top ten Maarten? I know the list has been here before, but I'm always interested in studious people's lists. Be much obliged. k
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How about a disco top ten Maarten? I know the list has been here before, but I'm always interested in studious people's lists. Be much obliged. k
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1, First choice - let no man put asunder 2, stone - girl I like the way you move 3, Dexter wansel - life on mars 4, michael wilson - groove it to your body 5, donna summer - patrick cowley mix 6,Stone - just in time and space 7, 2 tons of fun - I got the feeling - patrick cowley 8, D train - music 9, Powerline - the journey/double journey 10, diana ross - love hangover Could go on all day How about a disco top ten Maarten? I know the list has been here before, but I'm always interested in studious people's lists. Be much obliged. k
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Another 10! 1 L.I.F.E - All Played Out 2 Change - Change Of Heart 3 Booker Newbury III - Love Town 4 Cher - Take Me Home 5 Goon Squad - 8 Arms (to hold the key to your heart) 6 Earlene Bentley - Point Of No Return 7 SOS Band - High Hopes 8 BBQ Band - Imagination 9 Rene Angela - I'll Be Good 10 Ashford Simpson - It Seems To Hang On Wibo -Original Message- From: P dircon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 10 januari 2003 21:20 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id 1, First choice - let no man put asunder 2, stone - girl I like the way you move 3, Dexter wansel - life on mars 4, michael wilson - groove it to your body 5, donna summer - patrick cowley mix 6,Stone - just in time and space 7, 2 tons of fun - I got the feeling - patrick cowley 8, D train - music 9, Powerline - the journey/double journey 10, diana ross - love hangover Could go on all day How about a disco top ten Maarten? I know the list has been here before, but I'm always interested in studious people's lists. Be much obliged. k
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| -Original Message- | From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 12:58 | | 5 Goon Squad - 8 Arms (to hold the key to your heart) This Goon Squad has nothing to do with Detroit's Goon Sqwad, does it? That track title doesn't sound like something they'd do, I have to admit... Brendan
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Don't know, but I was surprised to see that Will Love Supreme Downing is doing vocals on this one as well. Can anyone else tell? W -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 10 januari 2003 13:59 To: Wibo Lammerts; 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) ron hardy track id | -Original Message- | From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 10 January 2003 12:58 | | 5 Goon Squad - 8 Arms (to hold the key to your heart) This Goon Squad has nothing to do with Detroit's Goon Sqwad, does it? That track title doesn't sound like something they'd do, I have to admit... Brendan
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Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco] don't you mean your parents music. they think disco is music that gay people listen to (I've heard it from their mouths). and their absolutely right. disco has it's roots in gay club culture and so does the origins of house music. Kevin Sauderson in interviews sites The Paradise Garage as one of his favorite *Gay clubs* which was influential on vocal house projects like Inner City. When I tell people , kids from my age who go to parties.. when I tell them I like disco very much.. they keep telling me stories about abba and so on... they don´t know there are also good records... they think it is one big cheese bowl. Disco has just a really bad reputation with the kids I tell you... make em listen to Hardy I would say! I hear the same stuff about techno except people think back to 2 Unlimited, and Moby. on 1/9/03 11:06 AM, Maarten Baute at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tell you one thing: the day I discovered disco and soul and old skool elektro, my mixes didn´t sound boring anymore... ;) Even if I play the same style of techno, by discovering the roots an other music I know to bring more variation in a mix. When I first started recording Chicago house and Detroit techno on the radio around 1989 I would pause out the black vocals. Although I would later come to love Chicago vocal house like Ten City. I was more interested in the TR-808, TR-909 beats you would hear in Chicago house which was lacking in Industrial Wax Trax, New Wave dance music from that time. I remember liking the vocals in No UFO's and PHUTURE but no way would I have been into disco. And that´s a good thing I reckon. When I tell people , kids from my age who go to parties.. when I tell them I like disco very much.. they keep telling me stories about abba and so on... they don´t know there are also good records... they think it is one big cheese bowl. Disco has just a really bad reputation with the kids I tell you... make em listen to Hardy I would say! Cheers, Maarten Well the kids that go to parties these days disco is before their parents time.
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sounds most like j.m. silk 'i can't turn around' (rca, 1986)--the insane mix, using doubles maybe. fairly easy to get a copy. or else it's an unreleased mix. james From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:58:43 +0100 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ron hardy track id hoi all i can finally stream now .. so get ready for some track id requests ;) first one: ron hardy #702B on deephousepage.com - http://www.deephousepage.com/ronhardy0702d.ram - about 16:05 .. killer love can't turn around version, over 8 minutes long .. ?? thanks a
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Thats the connection... I Can't Turn Around - Issac Hayes Love Can't Turn Around - Farley Jack Master Funk I Can't Turn Around - J.M. Silk - Jack Master Silk - Steve Silk Hurley Farley stole Hurleys name ;( boo boo boo o On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 11:32 PM, James Bucknell wrote: sounds most like j.m. silk 'i can't turn around' (rca, 1986)--the insane mix, using doubles maybe. fairly easy to get a copy. or else it's an unreleased mix. james From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:58:43 +0100 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ron hardy track id hoi all i can finally stream now .. so get ready for some track id requests ;) first one: ron hardy #702B on deephousepage.com - http://www.deephousepage.com/ronhardy0702d.ram - about 16:05 .. killer love can't turn around version, over 8 minutes long .. ?? thanks a
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The dhp has a message board and searchable database. although there is one wizard mix on his web site I read that G-Man has rejected other Wizard mixes from the site because he does not feel they are appropriate for the deep house page. Someone needs to start a classic techno site, I would love to hear the hard-core rave era Mills at the Limelight also mixes from the minimal techno era. Too much Disco and 80's nostalgia going around these days.
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Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco and 80s music and pages like deephousepage.com is very important. Waaay too many kids don't know - they think disco is music that gay people listen to (I've heard it from their mouths). Nostalgia is just a state of mind - sure lots of music being made is nostalgic and derivative (or an outright copy) but just because someone wants to listen to an early house/late disco ear mix doesn't equate that they are nostalgic for that era. There is a difference between reverence and nostalgia. On that note - there does seem to be a lack of old-school techno mixes from back in the day available online or otherwise. MEK techno [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org gy.net cc: Subject: Re: (313) ron hardy track id 01/09/03 09:26 AM The dhp has a message board and searchable database. although there is one wizard mix on his web site I read that G-Man has rejected other Wizard mixes from the site because he does not feel they are appropriate for the deep house page. Someone needs to start a classic techno site, I would love to hear the hard-core rave era Mills at the Limelight also mixes from the minimal techno era. Too much Disco and 80's nostalgia going around these days.
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Maybe I shouldn't dig this up but I do think it's important to keep hearing the sounds and being reminded where lots of our music came from and Disco and 80s music and pages like deephousepage.com is very important. Waaay too many kids don't know - they think disco is music that gay people listen to (I've heard it from their mouths). Nostalgia is just a state of mind - sure lots of music being made is nostalgic and derivative (or an outright copy) but just because someone wants to listen to an early house/late disco ear mix doesn't equate that they are nostalgic for that era. There is a difference between reverence and nostalgia. I tell you one thing: the day I discovered disco and soul and old skool elektro, my mixes didn´t sound boring anymore... ;) Even if I play the same style of techno, by discovering the roots an other music I know to bring more variation in a mix. And that´s a good thing I reckon. When I tell people , kids from my age who go to parties.. when I tell them I like disco very much.. they keep telling me stories about abba and so on... they don´t know there are also good records... they think it is one big cheese bowl. Disco has just a really bad reputation with the kids I tell you... make em listen to Hardy I would say! Cheers, Maarten
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 8 Jan 2003 about following: ron hardy #702B on deephousepage.com - http://www.deephousepage.com/ronhardy0702d.ram - about 16:05 .. killer love can't turn around version, over 8 minutes long .. ?? perhaps it's Isaac Hayes' - I Can't Turn Around sakke -- - * time to jack * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
Re: (313) ron hardy track id
no, he plays that about 30 min earlier (part a) Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 8 Jan 2003 about following: ron hardy #702B on deephousepage.com - http://www.deephousepage.com/ronhardy0702d.ram - about 16:05 .. killer love can't turn around version, over 8 minutes long .. ?? perhaps it's Isaac Hayes' - I Can't Turn Around sakke -- - * time to jack * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
Re: (313) ron hardy track id
no, he plays that about 30 min earlier (part a) Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 8 Jan 2003 about following: ron hardy #702B on deephousepage.com - http://www.deephousepage.com/ronhardy0702d.ram - about 16:05 .. killer love can't turn around version, over 8 minutes long .. ?? perhaps it's Isaac Hayes' - I Can't Turn Around sakke -- - * time to jack * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
Re: (313) ron hardy track id
I think its Steve Silk Hurleys answer to Love Can't Turn Around by Farley. Some type of biting going on and stuff, one of those hey you ripped me off answers that Chicago was famous for in the '80s. o On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 06:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, he plays that about 30 min earlier (part a) Sakari Karipuro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 8 Jan 2003 about following: ron hardy #702B on deephousepage.com - http://www.deephousepage.com/ronhardy0702d.ram - about 16:05 .. killer love can't turn around version, over 8 minutes long .. ?? perhaps it's Isaac Hayes' - I Can't Turn Around sakke -- - * time to jack * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
