[313] RE: (313) DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-05 Thread Wibo.Lammerts
22. Richie Hawtin...

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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread Michael Kim


well, Global Underground is probably the best DJ advertisements i've ever 
seen.  huge hype.  it was the greatest idea to make a quick buck and make 
people famous...  but remember that as with anything that's fed to the 
people it will ultimately be spit out at one time or another.


and not like i would trust any DJ ranking list that didn't mention Terrence 
Parker...  the idea of a DJ rank is retarded anyway, what is it based on?  
how many mix cd's the DJ sold?


just my 2/100
Mike


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This is painful Is it me or did the majority of the top 20 artists all
release CDs on Global Underground?  I smell a rigging..

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http://www.trustthedj.com/news?id=191


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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:09:09 -0500

Have a link for that? I'd like to check it out...


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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread Eric Scuccimarra
I'm not sure that the quick buck and making people famous go together... I 
think that the Global Underground series made money because they already 
used famous people.


Anyway, like you said, a DJ ranking is just completely idiotic. How can 
anyone even begin to compare DJs to each other? That's basically like a 
high school popularity contest...


Most people in the general population don't even know the difference 
between a DJ and a producer so you really can't blame them for not knowing 
better...


At 09:49 PM 11/2/2001 +, Michael Kim wrote:

well, Global Underground is probably the best DJ advertisements i've ever 
seen.  huge hype.  it was the greatest idea to make a quick buck and make 
people famous...  but remember that as with anything that's fed to the 
people it will ultimately be spit out at one time or another.


and not like i would trust any DJ ranking list that didn't mention 
Terrence Parker...  the idea of a DJ rank is retarded anyway, what is it 
based on?

how many mix cd's the DJ sold?

just my 2/100
Mike


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Subject: RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:28:35 -0800

This is painful Is it me or did the majority of the top 20 artists all
release CDs on Global Underground?  I smell a rigging..

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http://www.trustthedj.com/news?id=191


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Have a link for that? I'd like to check it out...


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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread Bulger, Tim
According to their site, it was a poll with votes collected from over 50
countries.  I considered that the vast popularity (saleswise) of the Global
Underground _stuff_ may account for the larger numbers of votes for their
_artists_ but was thinking then that the votes would come from individuals
who had actually seen them perform live.  Considering that the Chemical
Brothers and BT are on there and neither have really shown to be proper
DJ's, I don't think the poll was too scientific.

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well, Global Underground is probably the best DJ advertisements i've ever 
seen.  huge hype.  it was the greatest idea to make a quick buck and make 
people famous...  but remember that as with anything that's fed to the 
people it will ultimately be spit out at one time or another.

and not like i would trust any DJ ranking list that didn't mention Terrence 
Parker...  the idea of a DJ rank is retarded anyway, what is it based on?  
how many mix cd's the DJ sold?

just my 2/100
Mike

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Subject: RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:28:35 -0800

This is painful Is it me or did the majority of the top 20 artists all
release CDs on Global Underground?  I smell a rigging..

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http://www.trustthedj.com/news?id=191


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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread ani
???

40. Bad Boy Bill

47. Laurent Garnier
51. Jeff Mills

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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread FC3 Richards
hey wait...someone said only 1 dj from detroit.  well i would like to
consider Richie Hawtin from detroit...even though canada is kinda far away
from there, it is still close enough for me.  a couple of bucks drive ain't
that far from detroit...



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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread chrise

 hey wait...someone said only 1 dj from detroit.  well i would like to
 consider Richie Hawtin from detroit...even though canada is kinda far away
 from there, it is still close enough for me.  a couple of bucks drive ain't
 that far from detroit...

yeah, windsor is much closer to detroit at 1.7 miles than belleville (home
of the belleville three) is at 29.1 miles.

in fact, you'd probably pay more in gas driving to detroit from magic
juan's birthplace of techno home than you would for the bridge or tunnel
toll coming from rich's home. i guess it depends on whether or not you're
driving the fuel efficient detroit techno ford focus.

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Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I have little time for this poll. It purports to be international yet is
mainly compiled from UK responses and has a UK bias. There have always been
questions about this poll in the industry, too. I never give it much weight
myself. However, the exclusion of Jeff Mills could be partly because he does
not play in the UK so much now. This too raises an interesting question, why
is it that if a DJ is big everyone but in the UK, plays everyone but the UK,
then he/she don't exist in the eyes of the UK media. DJ Pierre pointed out
this bias in an Australian interview, he too plays everywhere but the UK.
Happily when an Australian magazine did a similiar poll Mills came in at
number 1.

DJ Magazine is quite arrogantly UK centric. When it did an article on the
Australian scene, it declined to use any Australian journalists, though we
are English speakers and know our scene, instead it brought out a few UK
hacks who rated clubs that had closed down and actually got people's genders
wrong. It was the talk of the biz for all the wrong reasons - it was
hilarious!! :)

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FYI:

DJ Magazine has announced the winners of their annual pollwith the 
exception of Jeff Millsnot one DJ from Detroit was listed.

Obviously, as a UK publication they're going to get more UK fans voting, so 
Sasha Digweed are one + two or two + one...yeah whatever...

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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread Fixer

I knew someone was going to open up that can of worms...

first, we'd all have to agree on definitions of what makes a dj Detroit.
Is it where they were born?  Where they began playing?  Where they
currently live?  What style of music they tend to spin?

There will be no solution, no answer that will please everyone, and on
top of that, what good is the argument anyway?

I've never heard Rich claim to be a Detroit dj anyway.



At 14:21 02/11/2001 -0800, FC3 Richards wrote:

hey wait...someone said only 1 dj from detroit.  well i would like to
consider Richie Hawtin from detroit...even though canada is kinda far away
from there, it is still close enough for me.  a couple of bucks drive ain't
that far from detroit...




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Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-03 Thread Vince Woolums
 I've never heard Rich claim to be a Detroit dj anyway.

Someone hasn't read their Techno Rebels ; )

What about that famous etching?  Future Sound of Detroit??

Detroit for a minute,

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 I knew someone was going to open up that can of worms...

 first, we'd all have to agree on definitions of what makes a dj Detroit.
 Is it where they were born?  Where they began playing?  Where they
 currently live?  What style of music they tend to spin?

 There will be no solution, no answer that will please everyone, and on
 top of that, what good is the argument anyway?




 At 14:21 02/11/2001 -0800, FC3 Richards wrote:
 hey wait...someone said only 1 dj from detroit.  well i would like to
 consider Richie Hawtin from detroit...even though canada is kinda far
away
 from there, it is still close enough for me.  a couple of bucks drive
ain't
 that far from detroit...
 


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Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-02 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, laura gavoor wrote:

 FYI:

 DJ Magazine has announced the winners of their annual pollwith the
 exception of Jeff Millsnot one DJ from Detroit was listed.

 Obviously, as a UK publication they're going to get more UK fans voting, so
 Sasha Digweed are one + two or two + one...yeah whatever...

If indeed the top ten category matters...I think it'd be a good idea for
us to come up with the list and then promote the list to other venues.


peace
lks


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Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-02 Thread Eric Scuccimarra

Have a link for that? I'd like to check it out...

Of course there aren't any Detroit DJs on the list... Even in NYC I doubt a 
Detroit DJ would show up. It would probably be Tall Paul van Oakenfeld and 
Sasha Digweed, etc. Unfortunately that sort of crappy trance has long since 
taken over most clubs - both US and European.


At 07:02 PM 11/2/2001 +, laura gavoor wrote:

FYI:

DJ Magazine has announced the winners of their annual pollwith the 
exception of Jeff Millsnot one DJ from Detroit was listed.


Obviously, as a UK publication they're going to get more UK fans voting, 
so Sasha Digweed are one + two or two + one...yeah whatever...


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Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-02 Thread Lorie R

http://www.trustthedj.com/news?id=191



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RE: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-02 Thread Bulger, Tim
This is painful Is it me or did the majority of the top 20 artists all
release CDs on Global Underground?  I smell a rigging..

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Re: [313] DJ Mags Top 100 DJs

2001-11-02 Thread Mxyzptlk

At 01:02 PM 11/2/2001, you wrote:
FYI:

DJ Magazine has announced the winners of their annual pollwith the 
exception of Jeff Millsnot one DJ from Detroit was listed.


Obviously, as a UK publication they're going to get more UK fans voting, so 
Sasha Digweed are one + two or two + one...yeah whatever...


_-



I saw the list posted on another list. Not to start another slag-off of the 
whole UK progressive thing (or - why not? :-), but, well...I'll let the 
actual list speak for itself. Suffice to say it was met by me with a 
mixture of nose-holding and muted laughter. (although that's not to say I 
could be a better DJ than Oakenfold...) Read it. Talk amongst yourselves.

snip
 Here are the results of this years poll.


 1. John Digweed
 2. Sasha
 3. Danny Tenaglia
 4. Paul Van Dyk
 5. Paul Oakenfold
 6. Tiesto
 7. Carl Cox
 8. Mauro Picotto
 9. Steve Lawler
 10. Deep Dish
 11. Judge Jules
 12. Danny Howells
 13. Roger Sanchez
 14. Erick Morillo
 15. Sander Kleinberg
 16. Fergie
 17. Dave Seaman
 18. Tall Paul
 19. Ferry Corsten
 20. Seb Fontaine
 21. Fatboy Slim
 22. Richie Hawtim
 23. Max Graham
 24. Timo Mass
 25. Danny Rampling
 26. Dave Clarke
 27. Armin van Buuren
 28. Nick Warren
 29. Lee Burridge
 30. Darren Emerson
 31. Andy C
 32. Lisa Lashes
 33. Antyhony Pappa
 34. Masters at Work
 35. Pete Tong
 36. Derrick Carter
 37. Norman Jay
 38. Scott Bond
 39. Jimmy Van M
 40. Bad Boy Bill
 41. Anne Savage
 42. John Kelly
 43. Guy Ornadel
 44. Christopher Lawrence
 45. David Morales
 46. DJ Dan
 47. Laurent Garnier
 48. Sister Bliss
 49. John OO'Fleming
 50. Hernan Cattaneo
 51. Jeff Mills
 52. BK
 53. Sven Vath
 54. Mario Piu
 55. Lottie
 56. Donald Glaude
 57. Mark Farina
 58. JFK
 59. Adam Freeland
 60. DJ Hype
 61. L T J Bukem
 62. Yousef
 63. Dieselboy
 64. Dave Pearce
 65. Andy Farley
 66. Plump DJs
 67. Lisa Pin Up
 68. Tidy Boys
 69. Dave Lee
 70. Ashley Casselle
 71. Krafty Kuts
 72. DJ Sneak
 73. Jon Pleased Wimmin
 74. Nick Sentience
 75. Chris Liberator
 76. BT
 77. Arnad Van Helden
 78. Stonebridge
 79. Tony Humphries
 80. Steve Thomas
 81. Justin Robertson
 82. Joe Claussell
 83. Brandon Block
 84. Mr Scruff
 85. Marco V
 86. Craig Richards
 87. Matt Hardwick
 88. Grooverider
 89. Chemical Brothers
 90. Francois K
 91. Jon Carter
 92. X-Press 2
 93. Graham Gold
 94. Parks  Wilson
 95. Frankie Knuckles
 96. Basement Jaxx
 97. Fabio
 98. Gigi D'Agostino
 99. Doc Martin
 100. Slam

unsnip


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