Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy
Um, I was just playing! :) A Versace stage at DEMF with Lil' Kim and Donatella lurking about, just my humour!! I laughed at your earnest reply though, funniest thing since Rob's cookies recipe. :) I found it funny Lil' Kim got a cover on a DJ magazine for one gig (in Japan). This phenomenon of celebrities DJing - Courtney Love, Lil' Kim - quite fascinating. -- >From: Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Cyclone Wehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313 Detroit <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 4:55 PM > > - Original Message - > From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy > > >> I wanna know why my fave Lil' Kim ain't playin', that was so obvious. I > read >> in Mixer that she's now cutting the wheels of steel. Sorry, but there's no >> excuse for not hiring her. She would attract good sponsors too - like >> Versace. People from Australia will definitely come if Kim is added to the >> bill. Now! > > With all due respect, wouldn't it be easier to see Lil' Kim somewhere else? > I guess I just have trouble seeing that people would travel something like > 10,000 miles to see Lil' Kim @ DEMF, when the relationship between her and > the festival is tenuous at best. I could think of about 100 people who could > probably fill her festival shoes, more deservedly. I dunno if your > enthusiasm is because she's a woman (i don't mean this negatively - you just > seem to advocate for women often) or if you genuinely see some tie between > her and the festival, but for me I can think of a whole lot of other women > that fit better. How about Norma Jean Bell again, in a slot where more than > 50 people will see her. Not that opening the fest isn't an honor of sorts, > but goddam, hundreds of thousands of people missed her brilliance last year. > > Tristan > --- > Upcoming Gigs: > 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC > http://www.mp313.com <- Music > http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more > http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios > http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i agree. there is definately a gap due to carl's lack of participation. but also, even if all the big Detroit guys get paid their standard fee, then that's still not nearly as expensive as last year with flying in dozens of international artist. also, i'm quite certain that the first DEMF lost quite a bit of money. it seems as though there has been money troubles throughout. carol probably kept this one cheap so she can finally get in the black. my point is, anyone who protest corporate sponsorship is being unrealistic. it cost a ton of money to put on the DEMF and it has to come from somewhere. On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, sean deason wrote: > then how would you explain the abundance of "big names" the first year of the > DEMF when a big name corporate sponsor wasnt even dreamed of? > so far the very first year of the DEMF was the best. no corporate sponsors, > and no over inflated expectations. just Carl Craig with a Rolodex? full of > talented friends willing to pitch in and make something special happen in > Detroit. > It's not the lack of corporate money that keeps Kevin, Derrick, Kenny, Carl, > Stacey and many others from performing this year. they (we) all got paid quite > well for performing that first year *without* Fords millions. > > sean deason > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > no sneak, it sucks that Ford's not a sponsor. What sucks more is that they > > didn't get any other big money sponsor, which i suspect is why the A+ acts > > of last year have been pretty much replaced by mid-tier or lower DJs. > > > > Nevermind the sour taste i have over Carol Marvin and the committee, > > everyone I talk to about this years schedule are underwhelmed and I think > > that a good part of it has to do with the festival obviously not having > > the sort of money it had last year. > > > > Why Carol Marvin was unable to lockdown a sponsor for, in her words "the > > biggest free music festival on earth" is a whole other can of worms. > > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Jeffrey Paul wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: > > > > The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my > > > > mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig > > > > had. So that's just where I stand. > > > > > > I don't think he got a focus. :P > > > > > > > > > > > > -j > > > > > > PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer > > > sponsoring the festival? > > > > > > > > > Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] tollfree: (877)-748-3467 > > > ICQ: 14295546 Yahoo/AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 > > > PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 > > > "Never trust an automatic pistol or a D.A.'s deal." > > > -- John Dillinger > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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excuse me everyone, but T-1000 is not a mid-tier DJ. He is a high caliber DJ. I think that everyone here should be happy that this is coming off and people like PVD and PO and all these other Trance eating mofo's aren't showing up. This could have turned into total crap. heh ... you definitely have a point there. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy > I wanna know why my fave Lil' Kim ain't playin', that was so obvious. I read > in Mixer that she's now cutting the wheels of steel. Sorry, but there's no > excuse for not hiring her. She would attract good sponsors too - like > Versace. People from Australia will definitely come if Kim is added to the > bill. Now! With all due respect, wouldn't it be easier to see Lil' Kim somewhere else? I guess I just have trouble seeing that people would travel something like 10,000 miles to see Lil' Kim @ DEMF, when the relationship between her and the festival is tenuous at best. I could think of about 100 people who could probably fill her festival shoes, more deservedly. I dunno if your enthusiasm is because she's a woman (i don't mean this negatively - you just seem to advocate for women often) or if you genuinely see some tie between her and the festival, but for me I can think of a whole lot of other women that fit better. How about Norma Jean Bell again, in a slot where more than 50 people will see her. Not that opening the fest isn't an honor of sorts, but goddam, hundreds of thousands of people missed her brilliance last year. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Even if DEMF line up fails, don't get your hopes down, there's always the after parties... Well wait a second, I have only heard about 2 so far, am I missing something> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/14/02 23:21 PM >>> So what you are saying is Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Jesus Christ son of God are also on the list to play DEMF. This is going to be a great show. MEK "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org om> cc: Subject: [313] demf "contracting" policy 04/12/02 07:48 PM It has been demf policy, now 3 years running, to anounce artists' names for their line-up without any contracts or monies having exchanged hands. Kevin called me earlier to ask if I knew about his being listed on the line-up. I sent him to the website to confirm that as I'd been too busy to yet check it out. He was lit up about the liberty taken and as little as the day before, had not even received a phone call to see if he would be interested/available. Cheek indeed!! No one I know is contracted, yet they feel compelled to announce to the world a line-up with no formalities/legalities in place. I know the committee was put in place just to SELECT the talent...not book it. So it is now apparent...PCM feels they can get away with what no other PROFESSIONAL promoter or promotion company in the world does--EVER. All I can say is that the very same lameass reason given for Carl's dismissal last year is again present this year. Wonder who'll get the blame this year? two words..."private parties" :] >From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [313] new schedule >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:18:58 -0400 > >hmm indeed. maybe they didn't get their contracts signed until the >last minute?? > >DOH > >no drexciya(n DJ) and no cool triple shot of hip-hop? snif > >-d > >At 3:49 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Rob Theakston wrote: >>hmmm >> >>now there's a new schedule. >> >>something just quite aint right. >> >>- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I wanna know why my fave Lil' Kim ain't playin', that was so obvious. I read in Mixer that she's now cutting the wheels of steel. Sorry, but there's no excuse for not hiring her. She would attract good sponsors too - like Versace. People from Australia will definitely come if Kim is added to the bill. Now! -- >From: FC3 Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeffrey Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [313] demf "contracting" policy >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 2:18 PM > > excuse me everyone, but T-1000 is not a mid-tier DJ. He is a high caliber > DJ. I think that everyone here should be happy that this is coming off and > people like PVD and PO and all these other Trance eating mofo's aren't > showing up. This could have turned into total crap. I think the selection > committee has done a good job selecting DJ's. Last year DJ Legal Alien was > there as was a few other local Detroit DJ's that don't spin anywhere other > then Detroit, and I didn't see anyone complaining. And what about Bill > VanLoo??? I don't recall much big talk about him, but after his set at the > underground stage at the first DEMF there was nothing but praise for him. > Low or Mid tier??? I don't think so. (Sorry to use you as an example, but i > had to...keep up the good work) > > What I am getting at is everyone needs to quit thier b!tch!ng and go to the > show and enjoy themselves. Is that too much to ask. We all knew that > electronic musics was going to hit it big sometimes, and in the music > industry in general there is always something contraversial going on. And > someone is always going to get pissed. Now I hope all of you hate my guts > for calling ya'll a bunch of little kids, but i felt it had to be dones. > > Peace > > Jeff > > ps...how is that for drama, Steve?? > >> -----Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:22 PM >> To: Jeffrey Paul >> Cc: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy >> >> no sneak, it sucks that Ford's not a sponsor. What sucks more is that they >> didn't get any other big money sponsor, which i suspect is why the A+ acts >> of last year have been pretty much replaced by mid-tier or lower DJs. >> >> Nevermind the sour taste i have over Carol Marvin and the committee, >> everyone I talk to about this years schedule are underwhelmed and I think >> that a good part of it has to do with the festival obviously not having >> the sort of money it had last year. >> >> Why Carol Marvin was unable to lockdown a sponsor for, in her words "the >> biggest free music festival on earth" is a whole other can of worms. >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Jeffrey Paul wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: >> > > The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in >> my >> > > mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig >> > > had. So that's just where I stand. >> > >> > I don't think he got a focus. :P >> > >> > >> > >> > -j >> > >> > PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer >> > sponsoring the festival? >> > >> > >> > Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] tollfree: (877)-748-3467 >> > ICQ: 14295546 Yahoo/AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 >> > PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 >> > "Never trust an automatic pistol or a D.A.'s deal." >> > -- John Dillinger >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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excuse me everyone, but T-1000 is not a mid-tier DJ. He is a high caliber DJ. I think that everyone here should be happy that this is coming off and people like PVD and PO and all these other Trance eating mofo's aren't showing up. This could have turned into total crap. I think the selection committee has done a good job selecting DJ's. Last year DJ Legal Alien was there as was a few other local Detroit DJ's that don't spin anywhere other then Detroit, and I didn't see anyone complaining. And what about Bill VanLoo??? I don't recall much big talk about him, but after his set at the underground stage at the first DEMF there was nothing but praise for him. Low or Mid tier??? I don't think so. (Sorry to use you as an example, but i had to...keep up the good work) What I am getting at is everyone needs to quit thier b!tch!ng and go to the show and enjoy themselves. Is that too much to ask. We all knew that electronic musics was going to hit it big sometimes, and in the music industry in general there is always something contraversial going on. And someone is always going to get pissed. Now I hope all of you hate my guts for calling ya'll a bunch of little kids, but i felt it had to be dones. Peace Jeff ps...how is that for drama, Steve?? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 3:22 PM > To: Jeffrey Paul > Cc: Fred Heutte; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy > > no sneak, it sucks that Ford's not a sponsor. What sucks more is that they > didn't get any other big money sponsor, which i suspect is why the A+ acts > of last year have been pretty much replaced by mid-tier or lower DJs. > > Nevermind the sour taste i have over Carol Marvin and the committee, > everyone I talk to about this years schedule are underwhelmed and I think > that a good part of it has to do with the festival obviously not having > the sort of money it had last year. > > Why Carol Marvin was unable to lockdown a sponsor for, in her words "the > biggest free music festival on earth" is a whole other can of worms. > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Jeffrey Paul wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: > > > The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in > my > > > mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig > > > had. So that's just where I stand. > > > > I don't think he got a focus. :P > > > > > > > > -j > > > > PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer > > sponsoring the festival? > > > > > > Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] tollfree: (877)-748-3467 > > ICQ: 14295546 Yahoo/AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 > > PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 > > "Never trust an automatic pistol or a D.A.'s deal." > > -- John Dillinger > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So what you are saying is Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and Jesus Christ son of God are also on the list to play DEMF. This is going to be a great show. MEK "laura gavoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org om> cc: Subject: [313] demf "contracting" policy 04/12/02 07:48 PM It has been demf policy, now 3 years running, to anounce artists' names for their line-up without any contracts or monies having exchanged hands. Kevin called me earlier to ask if I knew about his being listed on the line-up. I sent him to the website to confirm that as I'd been too busy to yet check it out. He was lit up about the liberty taken and as little as the day before, had not even received a phone call to see if he would be interested/available. Cheek indeed!! No one I know is contracted, yet they feel compelled to announce to the world a line-up with no formalities/legalities in place. I know the committee was put in place just to SELECT the talent...not book it. So it is now apparent...PCM feels they can get away with what no other PROFESSIONAL promoter or promotion company in the world does--EVER. All I can say is that the very same lameass reason given for Carl's dismissal last year is again present this year. Wonder who'll get the blame this year? two words..."private parties" :] >From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [313] new schedule >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:18:58 -0400 > >hmm indeed. maybe they didn't get their contracts signed until the >last minute?? > >DOH > >no drexciya(n DJ) and no cool triple shot of hip-hop? snif > >-d > >At 3:49 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Rob Theakston wrote: >>hmmm >> >>now there's a new schedule. >> >>something just quite aint right. >> >>- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Just thinking out loud about a possible scenario here: what would happen > if a few of the bookings fall through for whatever reasons (and some > will, it's inevitable). Who is responsible for filling the gaps in the > proposed lineup? Does the decision go back to the artist board or does > PCM then have the liberty to book who they want? Maybe that's what the 'volunteer' button on the web site is for. We should all pack a few records seeing as we may have to entertain each other. Either that or the robot pictured on the poster will probably fill in. -d - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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then how would you explain the abundance of "big names" the first year of the DEMF when a big name corporate sponsor wasnt even dreamed of? so far the very first year of the DEMF was the best. no corporate sponsors, and no over inflated expectations. just Carl Craig with a Rolodex® full of talented friends willing to pitch in and make something special happen in Detroit. It's not the lack of corporate money that keeps Kevin, Derrick, Kenny, Carl, Stacey and many others from performing this year. they (we) all got paid quite well for performing that first year *without* Fords millions. sean deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > no sneak, it sucks that Ford's not a sponsor. What sucks more is that they > didn't get any other big money sponsor, which i suspect is why the A+ acts > of last year have been pretty much replaced by mid-tier or lower DJs. > > Nevermind the sour taste i have over Carol Marvin and the committee, > everyone I talk to about this years schedule are underwhelmed and I think > that a good part of it has to do with the festival obviously not having > the sort of money it had last year. > > Why Carol Marvin was unable to lockdown a sponsor for, in her words "the > biggest free music festival on earth" is a whole other can of worms. > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Jeffrey Paul wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: > > > The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my > > > mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig > > > had. So that's just where I stand. > > > > I don't think he got a focus. :P > > > > > > > > -j > > > > PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer > > sponsoring the festival? > > > > > > Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] tollfree: (877)-748-3467 > > ICQ: 14295546 Yahoo/AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 > > PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 > > "Never trust an automatic pistol or a D.A.'s deal." > > -- John Dillinger > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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no sneak, it sucks that Ford's not a sponsor. What sucks more is that they didn't get any other big money sponsor, which i suspect is why the A+ acts of last year have been pretty much replaced by mid-tier or lower DJs. Nevermind the sour taste i have over Carol Marvin and the committee, everyone I talk to about this years schedule are underwhelmed and I think that a good part of it has to do with the festival obviously not having the sort of money it had last year. Why Carol Marvin was unable to lockdown a sponsor for, in her words "the biggest free music festival on earth" is a whole other can of worms. On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Jeffrey Paul wrote: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: > > The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my > > mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig > > had. So that's just where I stand. > > I don't think he got a focus. :P > > > > -j > > PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer > sponsoring the festival? > > > Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] tollfree: (877)-748-3467 > ICQ: 14295546 Yahoo/AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 > PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 > "Never trust an automatic pistol or a D.A.'s deal." > -- John Dillinger > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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laura gavoor wrote: > No one I know is contracted, yet they feel compelled to announce to the > world a line-up with no formalities/legalities in place. I know the > committee was put in place just to SELECT the talent...not book it. Just thinking out loud about a possible scenario here: what would happen if a few of the bookings fall through for whatever reasons (and some will, it's inevitable). Who is responsible for filling the gaps in the proposed lineup? Does the decision go back to the artist board or does PCM then have the liberty to book who they want? Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - From: "Jeffrey Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fred Heutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy > PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer > sponsoring the festival? I don't think we know who is sponsoring the festival yet other than Motor/MGD. I suspect there will be more sponsors announced. I think that's how it worked last year. If I'm not mistaken the Bacardi announcement came after the Ford announcement, and it seems odd that the main stage would have no sponsor and the Motor stage would have one. Tristan --- Upcoming Gigs: 4/14/02 - Filler @ Blue Room, Adams Morgan, DC http://www.mp313.com <- Music http://www.metrotechno.net <- DC techno + more http://www.metatrackstudios.com <- DC DJ/Production studios http://phonopsia.tripod.com <- Hub [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- email - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Fred Heutte wrote: > The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my > mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig > had. So that's just where I stand. I don't think he got a focus. :P -j PS: anyone besides me happy about the fact that ford is no longer sponsoring the festival? Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] tollfree: (877)-748-3467 ICQ: 14295546 Yahoo/AIM: kw34hd1 NXTL/DC: 130*21*16749 PGP: 0xF50BB9D7 A21AFD828C30EC77545DA0B3F501F50BB9D7 "Never trust an automatic pistol or a D.A.'s deal." -- John Dillinger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Don't forget, there *are* worse possibilities than Carol Marvin running the DEMF. I think it is important to remember that, regardless of the lineup, and fully respecting the decision of each featured artist to perform or to decline, those of us who attend the festival are there because it is about the Detroit Electronic Music Festival, and not about Carol Marvin. The fact that it *is* about the Festival in such a strong way is, in my mind, a continuing tribute to the vision and the focus that Carl Craig had. So that's just where I stand. I also think it's important to give full consideration to all the available facts when assessing the job that Carol Marvin is doing, or anyone else involved. If she were here giving her side of all the controversies, maybe we would be more inclined to support her. And maybe not. But she's not here, so the fairest approach is to take all the available info into account instead of just leaping to conclusions. For example, it should be acknowledged that she recruited an excellent panel to put together the lineup. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] demf "contracting" policy
hear hear!!! me and laura can now bond against a common enemy!!! what i find really amusing is watching the responses from the public go "OMG! OMG! Kevin Saunderson, Roni Size, Rob Hood!!!" The most popular DJs are the ones that have been pulled. Its almost as if PCM is begging eveyone to hate them. Lets not get all Freud, but is it possible that Carol Marvin subconciously wants the festival to fail so she can get away from her own monster. Or...is she fairly certain that given her appalling handling of the festival, there is no way that the city will renew her contract. We already know she's malicious. but is she evil enough to try to destroy 'her' festival before it is handed over to others? More conspiracy theories at 11. On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, laura gavoor wrote: > It has been demf policy, now 3 years running, to anounce artists' names for > their line-up without any contracts or monies having exchanged hands. > > Kevin called me earlier to ask if I knew about his being listed on the > line-up. I sent him to the website to confirm that as I'd been too busy to > yet check it out. He was lit up about the liberty taken and as little as > the day before, had not even received a phone call to see if he would be > interested/available. Cheek indeed!! > > No one I know is contracted, yet they feel compelled to announce to the > world a line-up with no formalities/legalities in place. I know the > committee was put in place just to SELECT the talent...not book it. So it > is now apparent...PCM feels they can get away with what no other > PROFESSIONAL promoter or promotion company in the world does--EVER. > > All I can say is that the very same lameass reason given for Carl's > dismissal last year is again present this year. Wonder who'll get the blame > this year? > > two words..."private parties" :] > > > > > >From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Rob Theakston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: [313] new schedule > >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:18:58 -0400 > > > >hmm indeed. maybe they didn't get their contracts signed until the > >last minute?? > > > >DOH > > > >no drexciya(n DJ) and no cool triple shot of hip-hop? snif > > > >-d > > > >At 3:49 PM -0400 4/12/2002, Rob Theakston wrote: > >>hmmm > >> > >>now there's a new schedule. > >> > >>something just quite aint right. > >> > >>- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > _ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
