RE: [313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-30 Thread Batory, Jason
Firstly, I must say that I'm envious of your situation because I simply
can't keep up (financially) with the amount of good releases lately.

Some label recommendations? How about Salo, BPitch Control, Raum Musik,
Shitkatapult, Sender, Italic, 3b, Force Inc, Klang, Perlon, Playhouse, Plug
Research, Background, Cytrax, Context, Tektite, Grow! ...etc.etc. and that's
just the dance-floor oriented material, which represents maybe a quarter of
what I listen to every week (there's also ambient stuff, house, jazzy breaks
and others which could be called IDM but shouldn't). Trust me, there's
plenty of quality,  deep music out there, just think outside the square you
live in.

Respect
JasonB
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 from my own point of view, i just seem to be buying old(er) techno
 records, 
 circa '90 to '97. there seems to be so many classic tunes from this period
 
 (most of which i failed to buy when they first came out - poor student 
 days), but nowadays the releases that must be bought, for me, are few and 
 far between. all my favourite tunes were made in the mid to early '90s.
 
 few producers, it seems, are making exciting deep dance-floor techno now. 
 the last brilliant record that i bought was stefan robbers release on
 ifach, 
 but its sound harks back to days of eevolute.
 
 kanzleramt seem to be making quality music these days, as are technasia,
 but 
 can any of you extremely knowledgable people recommend any other labels
 that 
 i might be missing out on (besides your established big names like tresor,
 
 planet e, kompakt)? i love the stuff on raygun (especially the fabrice lig
 
 and frame six releases), if that's a clue to my techno tastes (not a
 massive 
 fan of the hard minimal side).
 
 hope people can point me in the right direction.
 
 cheers, aidan
 
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RE: [313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-30 Thread Gwendal Cobert
What about this new electro wave ? Adult, Dopplereffekt etc ? without
falling in the by the way, who's behind Drexciya? FAQ-filler, there are
tons of brilliant records being released in this vein these days ?
Gwendal

 from my own point of view, i just seem to be buying old(er)
 techno records,
 circa '90 to '97. there seems to be so many classic tunes
 from this period
 (most of which i failed to buy when they first came out -
 poor student
 days), but nowadays the releases that must be bought, for me,
 are few and
 far between. all my favourite tunes were made in the mid to
 early '90s.



Re:[313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-30 Thread stuffed bird
yeah sure, just because I don't like banging, looped techno I'm narrow-minded 
and I have an elitist attitude...

and I hate to break the news, but some of us do just like the music for being 
music without thinking of getting chicks

and FYI, my record boxes are crammed with records that sold over a million 
copies and I have not burned them because that turned them too commercial

on the whole it's total lack of respect for opinions and mindless flaming that 
brings down the quality of this list filled with people who do love music just 
for the sake of it

RD

PS Please don't reply unless you can leave the flaming



I think there are as many quality techno records coming out as there were 
in those days,


yeah, when everyone and their mother only uses equipment that's 10 years old 
or older, the new sound thing runs thin.  So much for being the only 
innovative sound eh?


it's just the number of crappy looped banging stuff that has multiplied 
enormously,


umm,  its always been crappy looped banging stuff.  That's what makes it 
techno.

and is sadly being bought by loads of young dj's who just want to get the 
girls and get paid like a superstar.

isn't getting laid and paid the whole reason for doing ANYTHING?  Guys do 
certain things because it attracts certain chicks.

Deep house has always been a little less popular and has IMO maintained 
more integrity


ahh yes, the whole, if its sold more than a thousand copies the artist MUST 
have sold out and have no integrity,  bit.  Haven't heard THAT before.


I think people take music too seriously for the wrong reasons.  YES, its a 
powerful medium.  YES, its an artform.  But dude, RELAX.  its just music.  
Its not going to cure cancer.  Just because an artist writes a song that 
other people like besides him does NOT make it evil, nor does it make him a 
sellout, or commercialized.


It means he wrote a track that other people like.


Yeah, there's a commercial aspect to music, and there ARE people who 
sellout, but i think it happens less than y'all think.


I mean, was andy warhol an evil commercial sellout cause he sold his 
paintings?


I just think its time that this whole elitist attitude gives it up.  Its 
Tired, and i think needs to be saved for acts like britney spears.  so Sit 
back, RELAX, enjoy the hard beats.



(although the French disco house sound is a serious attempt at destroying 
that integrity).


yeah, those evil French Disco House Dj's are just trying to capitalize on 
that which is pure and unmoved right?  Cause they're makin those Ten Dollah 
bills y'all!



Oh well, just wanted to toss my 2 cents in.  you're more than welcomed to 
your opinion, and if you want to keep yourself as closeminded as possible,  
that's great.  don't let me stop you from reaching that level of Snobbery 
(seriously).



My opinion:



Deep house makes me want to go to bed.  For a supposed new sound, its just 
as old and rehashed as all music is.
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Re: [313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-29 Thread george . jones
Personally, I'm a big Stewart Walker fan. The guy's got some amazing stuff.
Pretty much anything of his is good. Also, check out the THX series with
Theorem vs (fill in the name), quality stuff there too.






beautiful individual [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/29/2001 09:14:05 AM

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Subject:  [313] can't get no decent techno  but i try


from my own point of view, i just seem to be buying old(er) techno records,
circa '90 to '97. there seems to be so many classic tunes from this period
(most of which i failed to buy when they first came out - poor student
days), but nowadays the releases that must be bought, for me, are few and
far between. all my favourite tunes were made in the mid to early '90s.

few producers, it seems, are making exciting deep dance-floor techno now.
the last brilliant record that i bought was stefan robbers release on
ifach,
but its sound harks back to days of eevolute.

kanzleramt seem to be making quality music these days, as are technasia,
but
can any of you extremely knowledgable people recommend any other labels
that
i might be missing out on (besides your established big names like tresor,
planet e, kompakt)? i love the stuff on raygun (especially the fabrice lig
and frame six releases), if that's a clue to my techno tastes (not a
massive
fan of the hard minimal side).

hope people can point me in the right direction.

cheers, aidan

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Re: [313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-29 Thread dj revolver
i agree.  every stewart walker EP i listen to, i end up buying and the THX 
tracks are beautiful.




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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:23:21 -0500

Personally, I'm a big Stewart Walker fan. The guy's got some amazing stuff.
Pretty much anything of his is good. Also, check out the THX series with
Theorem vs (fill in the name), quality stuff there too.






beautiful individual [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/29/2001 09:14:05 AM

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Subject:  [313] can't get no decent techno  but i try


from my own point of view, i just seem to be buying old(er) techno records,
circa '90 to '97. there seems to be so many classic tunes from this period
(most of which i failed to buy when they first came out - poor student
days), but nowadays the releases that must be bought, for me, are few and
far between. all my favourite tunes were made in the mid to early '90s.

few producers, it seems, are making exciting deep dance-floor techno now.
the last brilliant record that i bought was stefan robbers release on
ifach,
but its sound harks back to days of eevolute.

kanzleramt seem to be making quality music these days, as are technasia,
but
can any of you extremely knowledgable people recommend any other labels
that
i might be missing out on (besides your established big names like tresor,
planet e, kompakt)? i love the stuff on raygun (especially the fabrice lig
and frame six releases), if that's a clue to my techno tastes (not a
massive
fan of the hard minimal side).

hope people can point me in the right direction.

cheers, aidan

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Re:[313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-29 Thread dj revolver
That's what's great about DJing.  Although all DJs have the same access to 
the same records - each DJ buys records and sounds that please them and in 
turn they use those records in a DJ set to keep everyone dancing and having 
a great time.  There are great records available new and old.  What you do 
with them as a DJ is what makes the difference.

djr



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I agree, techno lost me to deep house around the same time, but I still buy 
a lot of techno records. I think there are as many quality techno records 
coming out as there were in those days, it's just the number of crappy 
looped banging stuff that has multiplied enormously, and is sadly being 
bought by loads of young dj's who just want to get the girls and get paid 
like a superstar. Deep house has always been a little less popular and has 
IMO maintained more integrity (although the French disco house sound is a 
serious attempt at destroying that integrity).
The techno that usually makes me wanna hit the decks and the floor 
nowadays:


most John Tejada releases, I love the one on M'n'G, but there are also 
those on Palette a.o., the last Beroshima was storming as well, very deep 
stuff, Hakan Lidbo also releases some deep stuff, although the purists 
won't regard this as techno

Gigolo has also releases some slamming tracks these last couple of years

hope this helps,

RD


from my own point of view, i just seem to be buying old(er) techno 
records,
circa '90 to '97. there seems to be so many classic tunes from this 
period

(most of which i failed to buy when they first came out - poor student
days), but nowadays the releases that must be bought, for me, are few and
far between. all my favourite tunes were made in the mid to early '90s.

few producers, it seems, are making exciting deep dance-floor techno now.
the last brilliant record that i bought was stefan robbers release on 
ifach,

but its sound harks back to days of eevolute.

kanzleramt seem to be making quality music these days, as are technasia, 
but
can any of you extremely knowledgable people recommend any other labels 
that
i might be missing out on (besides your established big names like 
tresor,
planet e, kompakt)? i love the stuff on raygun (especially the fabrice 
lig
and frame six releases), if that's a clue to my techno tastes (not a 
massive

fan of the hard minimal side).

hope people can point me in the right direction.

cheers, aidan

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Re:[313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-29 Thread Jayson B.


I think there are as many quality techno records coming out as there were 
in those days,



yeah, when everyone and their mother only uses equipment that's 10 years old 
or older, the new sound thing runs thin.  So much for being the only 
innovative sound eh?



it's just the number of crappy looped banging stuff that has multiplied 
enormously,



umm,  its always been crappy looped banging stuff.  That's what makes it 
techno.


and is sadly being bought by loads of young dj's who just want to get the 
girls and get paid like a superstar.


isn't getting laid and paid the whole reason for doing ANYTHING?  Guys do 
certain things because it attracts certain chicks.


Deep house has always been a little less popular and has IMO maintained 
more integrity



ahh yes, the whole, if its sold more than a thousand copies the artist MUST 
have sold out and have no integrity,  bit.  Haven't heard THAT before.



I think people take music too seriously for the wrong reasons.  YES, its a 
powerful medium.  YES, its an artform.  But dude, RELAX.  its just music.  
Its not going to cure cancer.  Just because an artist writes a song that 
other people like besides him does NOT make it evil, nor does it make him a 
sellout, or commercialized.



It means he wrote a track that other people like.


Yeah, there's a commercial aspect to music, and there ARE people who 
sellout, but i think it happens less than y'all think.



I mean, was andy warhol an evil commercial sellout cause he sold his 
paintings?



I just think its time that this whole elitist attitude gives it up.  Its 
Tired, and i think needs to be saved for acts like britney spears.  so Sit 
back, RELAX, enjoy the hard beats.




(although the French disco house sound is a serious attempt at destroying 
that integrity).



yeah, those evil French Disco House Dj's are just trying to capitalize on 
that which is pure and unmoved right?  Cause they're makin those Ten Dollah 
bills y'all!




Oh well, just wanted to toss my 2 cents in.  you're more than welcomed to 
your opinion, and if you want to keep yourself as closeminded as possible,  
that's great.  don't let me stop you from reaching that level of Snobbery 
(seriously).




My opinion:



Deep house makes me want to go to bed.  For a supposed new sound, its just 
as old and rehashed as all music is.

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Re:[313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-29 Thread dj revolver

so much negativity in the last two posts...damn.

I do agree with one thing Sit back, RELAX, enjoy the hard beats
- could say more more but not feeling feisty enough ;)




From: Jayson B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re:[313] can't get no decent techno  but i try
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:33:34 -



I think there are as many quality techno records coming out as there were
in those days,



yeah, when everyone and their mother only uses equipment that's 10 years 
old

or older, the new sound thing runs thin.  So much for being the only
innovative sound eh?



it's just the number of crappy looped banging stuff that has multiplied
enormously,



umm,  its always been crappy looped banging stuff.  That's what makes it
techno.


and is sadly being bought by loads of young dj's who just want to get the
girls and get paid like a superstar.


isn't getting laid and paid the whole reason for doing ANYTHING?  Guys do
certain things because it attracts certain chicks.


Deep house has always been a little less popular and has IMO maintained
more integrity



ahh yes, the whole, if its sold more than a thousand copies the artist 
MUST

have sold out and have no integrity,  bit.  Haven't heard THAT before.


I think people take music too seriously for the wrong reasons.  YES, its a
powerful medium.  YES, its an artform.  But dude, RELAX.  its just music.
Its not going to cure cancer.  Just because an artist writes a song that
other people like besides him does NOT make it evil, nor does it make him a
sellout, or commercialized.


It means he wrote a track that other people like.


Yeah, there's a commercial aspect to music, and there ARE people who
sellout, but i think it happens less than y'all think.


I mean, was andy warhol an evil commercial sellout cause he sold his
paintings?


I just think its time that this whole elitist attitude gives it up.  Its
Tired, and i think needs to be saved for acts like britney spears.  so Sit
back, RELAX, enjoy the hard beats.




(although the French disco house sound is a serious attempt at destroying
that integrity).



yeah, those evil French Disco House Dj's are just trying to capitalize on
that which is pure and unmoved right?  Cause they're makin those Ten Dollah
bills y'all!



Oh well, just wanted to toss my 2 cents in.  you're more than welcomed to
your opinion, and if you want to keep yourself as closeminded as possible,
that's great.  don't let me stop you from reaching that level of Snobbery
(seriously).



My opinion:



Deep house makes me want to go to bed.  For a supposed new sound, its 
just

as old and rehashed as all music is.
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Re:[313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-29 Thread george . jones
I think deep house is pretty sweet. Hell, I even tried my hand at it once
upon a time (http://www.mp3.com/subject28), with uhhh... mixed results.
(hehe)

I look at it like this: As long as the music sounds good to me, it's worth
my $$$. Screw what anyone else thinks.





stuffed bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/29/2001 10:54:55 AM

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I agree, techno lost me to deep house around the same time, but I still buy
a lot of techno records. I think there are as many quality techno records
coming out as there were in those days, it's just the number of crappy
looped banging stuff that has multiplied enormously, and is sadly being
bought by loads of young dj's who just want to get the girls and get paid
like a superstar. Deep house has always been a little less popular and has
IMO maintained more integrity (although the French disco house sound is a
serious attempt at destroying that integrity).





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2001-03-29 Thread TIMOTHY JOHNSON
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I'll have to agree with you extensively.  I have been a detroit techno artist 
for a while now, and I am looking forward to getting into to dj'ing next.  BTW 
does anyone know where the best place to get vinyl pressed is?


 
 josh's profound sounds vol 1 is a great cd.  i have a pretty extensive 
 collection as diversity is concerned and i'll agree - i enjoy certain 
 filtered disco (angel alanis, hatiris etc).  djing is similar to being an 
 artist - only you have a pallet of sounds and beats instead of paint to 
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Re:[313] can't get no decent techno .... but i try

2001-03-29 Thread joshtwentythree
I'm at the point now where I just wander around the
record store going through bins, if I like it...it's
techno...wow...that's really funky, nice deep
bassline...it's techno. cause I mean, duh, everything
that sucks is not techno. everything that is good is
techno...but I'm sure people who prefer house buy
techno records saying, hey that's some good
house...yeah... :)

josh23
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 I think deep house is pretty sweet. Hell, I even
 tried my hand at it once
 upon a time (http://www.mp3.com/subject28), with
 uhhh... mixed results.
 (hehe)
 
 I look at it like this: As long as the music sounds
 good to me, it's worth
 my $$$. Screw what anyone else thinks.
 
 
 
 
 
 stuffed bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
 03/29/2001 10:54:55 AM
 
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc:   313@hyperreal.org
 Subject:  Re:[313] can't get no decent techno 
 but i try
 
 
 I agree, techno lost me to deep house around the
 same time, but I still buy
 a lot of techno records. I think there are as many
 quality techno records
 coming out as there were in those days, it's just
 the number of crappy
 looped banging stuff that has multiplied enormously,
 and is sadly being
 bought by loads of young dj's who just want to get
 the girls and get paid
 like a superstar. Deep house has always been a
 little less popular and has
 IMO maintained more integrity (although the French
 disco house sound is a
 serious attempt at destroying that integrity).
 
 
 
 


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