Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-28 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma

Ok little late on this but i am catching up on my e-mail.

Last time i heard Robert Hood play was really, really, really horrible  
i was pissed all night just hearing him play. I think he doesnt live  
in Minimal Nation any more and some should do a Coup d'état there very  
quickly if there is anything to be saved.


If Inner City live is anything like their first performance at the  
DEMF/Movement or whatever you seriously do not want to miss it. They  
had a full-on band on stage (including backing vocals). It was raining  
like crazy but Hart Plaza was loaded and the show started with Kevin  
shouting One nation under a technogroove and 5000 people going crazy  
and shouting along. That show was top notch and it was one of the best  
(techno) live-acts i have ever seen, period. (Any one who was there  
and disagrees needs professional help)



On 24 mei 2010, at 16:03, kent williams wrote:


Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
May plays everywhere all the time.

Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
Hood is unique.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe- 
ebola.com wrote:

http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.





Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread kent williams
Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
May plays everywhere all the time.

Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
Hood is unique.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.



Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread jwan allen
i agree with our man Kent here, it makes my decision a lot either, no
sophie's choice during the first night. Mr. Hood all the way, I was
kinda hoping the new album would be available by this weekend, but I
may be getting ahead of myself.

jw

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:03 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
 May plays everywhere all the time.

 Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
 that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
 doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

 I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
 Hood is unique.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.





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RE: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread John Sokolowski

Plus Hood is billed as 'live' which make it a pretty rare performance. 
Hopefully it is 'live live' and not DJing with efx, like some of his other 
'live' billings have been.


 Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:06:27 -0400
 From: jwan.al...@gmail.com
 To: chaircrus...@gmail.com
 CC: 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

 i agree with our man Kent here, it makes my decision a lot either, no
 sophie's choice during the first night. Mr. Hood all the way, I was
 kinda hoping the new album would be available by this weekend, but I
 may be getting ahead of myself.

 jw

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:03 AM, kent williams wrote:
 Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
 May plays everywhere all the time.

 Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed. You know how every DJ
 that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same? Robert Hood
 doesn't. His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

 I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
 Hood is unique.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle wrote:
 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.





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Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread Robin Pinning

Derrick 9-10, Hood 10-11 Inner City 11-12

What's the prob?

robin...


 
 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle wrote:
 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752
 
 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?
 
 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.



Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread darnistle
Inner City's performance may be only so-so, but I would still like to 
hear them live.  Given that their sound is from a different era, it will 
likely be a welcome stylistic change in music.


Derrick May may play everywhere all the time, but he never plays near 
where I live so it would be silly to miss the opportunity to hear him 
again.  He's always played well and interestingly when I've heard him so 
I see no reason to skip him altogether.


That said, I love Hood to bits!!! Granted, I was truly disappointed with 
his amazingly lackluster set the last time he played the main stage at 
DEMF, but I can forgive him since I've heard him play enough times to 
know that he can send me into orbit in a way that very few DJs can, 
especially when he plays in smaller venues.


The fact that he'll be playing live makes me super curious.

Changes are opt for May and Hood and pop into Inner City occasionally

I hate having to float from stage to stage, but sometimes it can't be 
helped.


{}0+|

On 5/24/2010 10:03 AM, kent williams wrote:

Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
May plays everywhere all the time.

Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
Hood is unique.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistledarnis...@cafe-ebola.com  wrote:

http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.



Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread darnistle
Derrick is 9-11, not 9-10.  That means that both Hood and Inner City 
will be performing during his set.


I would rather not have to interrupt listening to Derrick's set to hear 
the other performers, but I also don't want to miss Hood or Inner City.


That's the prob.

Thems the tribulations of attending such a festival...

{}0+|

On 5/24/2010 10:25 AM, Robin Pinning wrote:


Derrick 9-10, Hood 10-11 Inner City 11-12

What's the prob?

robin...




On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle wrote:

http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.




Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread Robin Pinning

Just means missing an hour of Derrick though right?

All festivals have this problem to some degree as you say.

robin...

On 24 May 2010, at 15:41, darnistle wrote:

 Derrick is 9-11, not 9-10.  That means that both Hood and Inner City will be 
 performing during his set.
 
 I would rather not have to interrupt listening to Derrick's set to hear the 
 other performers, but I also don't want to miss Hood or Inner City.
 
 That's the prob.
 
 Thems the tribulations of attending such a festival...
 
 {}0+|
 
 On 5/24/2010 10:25 AM, Robin Pinning wrote:
 
 Derrick 9-10, Hood 10-11 Inner City 11-12
 
 What's the prob?



Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread kent williams
Honestly, if it were the only thing going on, I'd love May, but he's
going to be playing records (and likely the big room tracks most
313'ers don't care about), but Hood live will melt your face off and
then rush your t*ts off.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:41 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
 Derrick is 9-11, not 9-10.  That means that both Hood and Inner City will be
 performing during his set.

 I would rather not have to interrupt listening to Derrick's set to hear the
 other performers, but I also don't want to miss Hood or Inner City.

 That's the prob.

 Thems the tribulations of attending such a festival...

 {}0+|

 On 5/24/2010 10:25 AM, Robin Pinning wrote:

 Derrick 9-10, Hood 10-11 Inner City 11-12

 What's the prob?

 robin...



 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle wrote:

 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.




Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread ja...@iridite.com
Just to chime in - Inner City were billed to play here in Glasgow a
couple of months ago and a couple of people who's opinion I trust went
along and said it was...more than a little dissapointing to be
generous about it.

Just Paris Grey singing some of the parts of Inner City tracks over a
DAT (very 1990's!!!) and not even all the lead vocals either!!  It's a
bit lame when there's only two people in a group and one of them
doesn't turn up :)

Jason





On 24 May 2010 15:28, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
 Inner City's performance may be only so-so, but I would still like to hear
 them live.  Given that their sound is from a different era, it will likely
 be a welcome stylistic change in music.

 Derrick May may play everywhere all the time, but he never plays near where
 I live so it would be silly to miss the opportunity to hear him again.  He's
 always played well and interestingly when I've heard him so I see no reason
 to skip him altogether.

 That said, I love Hood to bits!!! Granted, I was truly disappointed with his
 amazingly lackluster set the last time he played the main stage at DEMF, but
 I can forgive him since I've heard him play enough times to know that he can
 send me into orbit in a way that very few DJs can, especially when he plays
 in smaller venues.

 The fact that he'll be playing live makes me super curious.

 Changes are opt for May and Hood and pop into Inner City occasionally

 I hate having to float from stage to stage, but sometimes it can't be
 helped.

 {}0+|

 On 5/24/2010 10:03 AM, kent williams wrote:

 Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
 May plays everywhere all the time.

 Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
 that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
 doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

 I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
 Hood is unique.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistledarnis...@cafe-ebola.com
  wrote:

 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.




Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread kent williams
I've no doubt that Kevin Saunderson will show up to be on main stage
for this, and who knows, maybe they've worked up something live-ish
(or Live-ish perhaps) to perform, but I can't get that worked up about
missing this.

The last time I saw Saunderson at DEMF he played a pretty generic big
room hands in the air set*, with a few cheesy prog-house tracks in the
mix.  I'm more of a small room, sweat on the walls kind of person, so
it did nothing for me.

Nothing would please me more than to hear afterwards DUDE, It was
AMAZING! but my hopes aren't high.

*this is a real problem, especially in Europe, where they still have
big room events.  There's a certain kind of least common denominator
set that gets a big reaction from a large crowd of pilled-up punters.
So the DJs that play out 2 or 3 times a week all the time tend to
streamline their sets to What Always Works.  And just as all cars
optimized for drag coefficient will tend to look the same, all
perfected Big Room DJ sets will look the same.

That's fine if you want the biggest reaction from a big crowd, but
it's generic and uninspiring to anyone who actually cares about the
music.  It means that Richie Hawtin, Sven Vath, Kevin Saunderson,
Benny Benassi, Carl Cox, etc all sound the same.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 Just to chime in - Inner City were billed to play here in Glasgow a
 couple of months ago and a couple of people who's opinion I trust went
 along and said it was...more than a little dissapointing to be
 generous about it.

 Just Paris Grey singing some of the parts of Inner City tracks over a
 DAT (very 1990's!!!) and not even all the lead vocals either!!  It's a
 bit lame when there's only two people in a group and one of them
 doesn't turn up :)

 Jason





 On 24 May 2010 15:28, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
 Inner City's performance may be only so-so, but I would still like to hear
 them live.  Given that their sound is from a different era, it will likely
 be a welcome stylistic change in music.

 Derrick May may play everywhere all the time, but he never plays near where
 I live so it would be silly to miss the opportunity to hear him again.  He's
 always played well and interestingly when I've heard him so I see no reason
 to skip him altogether.

 That said, I love Hood to bits!!! Granted, I was truly disappointed with his
 amazingly lackluster set the last time he played the main stage at DEMF, but
 I can forgive him since I've heard him play enough times to know that he can
 send me into orbit in a way that very few DJs can, especially when he plays
 in smaller venues.

 The fact that he'll be playing live makes me super curious.

 Changes are opt for May and Hood and pop into Inner City occasionally

 I hate having to float from stage to stage, but sometimes it can't be
 helped.

 {}0+|

 On 5/24/2010 10:03 AM, kent williams wrote:

 Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
 May plays everywhere all the time.

 Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
 that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
 doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

 I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
 Hood is unique.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistledarnis...@cafe-ebola.com
  wrote:

 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.





Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread UI Design
Derrick 9-11, Inner City 11-12
Only conflict is Rob Hood from 10-11...

Jodie Svagr


On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:

 Derrick is 9-11, not 9-10.  That means that both Hood and Inner City will be 
 performing during his set.

 I would rather not have to interrupt listening to Derrick's set to hear the 
 other performers, but I also don't want to miss Hood or Inner City.

 That's the prob.

 Thems the tribulations of attending such a festival...

 {}0+|

 On 5/24/2010 10:25 AM, Robin Pinning wrote:

 Derrick 9-10, Hood 10-11 Inner City 11-12

 What's the prob?

 robin...



 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistle wrote:

 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.



Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread kent williams
One DEMF tip for all -- if you're in one spot and you're enjoying it,
don't be tempted to try a different stage because it might be better!
You end up spending the whole weekend walking between stages, and you
still miss the good stuff.

It's like traveling in Europe -- do you want to see places, or train stations?

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:45 AM, UI Design
uandidesigndetr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Derrick 9-11, Inner City 11-12
 Only conflict is Rob Hood from 10-11...

 Jodie Svagr



Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread ja...@iridite.com
Yes, no doubt, to both your points!

Jason

On 24 May 2010 17:34, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've no doubt that Kevin Saunderson will show up to be on main stage
 for this, and who knows, maybe they've worked up something live-ish
 (or Live-ish perhaps) to perform, but I can't get that worked up about
 missing this.

 The last time I saw Saunderson at DEMF he played a pretty generic big
 room hands in the air set*, with a few cheesy prog-house tracks in the
 mix.  I'm more of a small room, sweat on the walls kind of person, so
 it did nothing for me.

 Nothing would please me more than to hear afterwards DUDE, It was
 AMAZING! but my hopes aren't high.

 *this is a real problem, especially in Europe, where they still have
 big room events.  There's a certain kind of least common denominator
 set that gets a big reaction from a large crowd of pilled-up punters.
 So the DJs that play out 2 or 3 times a week all the time tend to
 streamline their sets to What Always Works.  And just as all cars
 optimized for drag coefficient will tend to look the same, all
 perfected Big Room DJ sets will look the same.

 That's fine if you want the biggest reaction from a big crowd, but
 it's generic and uninspiring to anyone who actually cares about the
 music.  It means that Richie Hawtin, Sven Vath, Kevin Saunderson,
 Benny Benassi, Carl Cox, etc all sound the same.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 Just to chime in - Inner City were billed to play here in Glasgow a
 couple of months ago and a couple of people who's opinion I trust went
 along and said it was...more than a little dissapointing to be
 generous about it.

 Just Paris Grey singing some of the parts of Inner City tracks over a
 DAT (very 1990's!!!) and not even all the lead vocals either!!  It's a
 bit lame when there's only two people in a group and one of them
 doesn't turn up :)

 Jason





 On 24 May 2010 15:28, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
 Inner City's performance may be only so-so, but I would still like to hear
 them live.  Given that their sound is from a different era, it will likely
 be a welcome stylistic change in music.

 Derrick May may play everywhere all the time, but he never plays near where
 I live so it would be silly to miss the opportunity to hear him again.  He's
 always played well and interestingly when I've heard him so I see no reason
 to skip him altogether.

 That said, I love Hood to bits!!! Granted, I was truly disappointed with his
 amazingly lackluster set the last time he played the main stage at DEMF, but
 I can forgive him since I've heard him play enough times to know that he can
 send me into orbit in a way that very few DJs can, especially when he plays
 in smaller venues.

 The fact that he'll be playing live makes me super curious.

 Changes are opt for May and Hood and pop into Inner City occasionally

 I hate having to float from stage to stage, but sometimes it can't be
 helped.

 {}0+|

 On 5/24/2010 10:03 AM, kent williams wrote:

 Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
 May plays everywhere all the time.

 Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
 that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
 doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

 I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
 Hood is unique.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistledarnis...@cafe-ebola.com
  wrote:

 http://www.movement.us/?p=1752

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.






Re: (313) DEMF Schedule Released!!!

2010-05-24 Thread Fred Heutte
All true but when I did see KMS in Europe (at Berghain in December 2008,
following an off-the-hook live set by Octave One), he stayed away from
the anthems and played deep and well.

Wish I could have the dilemma of the DEMF schedule, but I can't be
there this year.  In a way I don't mind taking a break but the best part
of the festival is seeing all of you plus the rest of my extended Detroit
family...

fh

-
I've no doubt that Kevin Saunderson will show up to be on main stage
for this, and who knows, maybe they've worked up something live-ish
(or Live-ish perhaps) to perform, but I can't get that worked up about
missing this.

The last time I saw Saunderson at DEMF he played a pretty generic big
room hands in the air set*, with a few cheesy prog-house tracks in the
mix.  I'm more of a small room, sweat on the walls kind of person, so
it did nothing for me.

Nothing would please me more than to hear afterwards DUDE, It was
AMAZING! but my hopes aren't high.

*this is a real problem, especially in Europe, where they still have
big room events.  There's a certain kind of least common denominator
set that gets a big reaction from a large crowd of pilled-up punters.
So the DJs that play out 2 or 3 times a week all the time tend to
streamline their sets to What Always Works.  And just as all cars
optimized for drag coefficient will tend to look the same, all
perfected Big Room DJ sets will look the same.

That's fine if you want the biggest reaction from a big crowd, but
it's generic and uninspiring to anyone who actually cares about the
music.  It means that Richie Hawtin, Sven Vath, Kevin Saunderson,
Benny Benassi, Carl Cox, etc all sound the same.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:53 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote:
 Just to chime in - Inner City were billed to play here in Glasgow a
 couple of months ago and a couple of people who's opinion I trust went
 along and said it was...more than a little dissapointing to be
 generous about it.

 Just Paris Grey singing some of the parts of Inner City tracks over a
 DAT (very 1990's!!!) and not even all the lead vocals either!!  It's a
 bit lame when there's only two people in a group and one of them
 doesn't turn up :)

 Jason





 On 24 May 2010 15:28, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
 Inner City's performance may be only so-so, but I would still like to hear
 them live.  Given that their sound is from a different era, it will likely
 be a welcome stylistic change in music.

 Derrick May may play everywhere all the time, but he never plays near where
 I live so it would be silly to miss the opportunity to hear him again.  He's
 always played well and interestingly when I've heard him so I see no reason
 to skip him altogether.

 That said, I love Hood to bits!!! Granted, I was truly disappointed with his
 amazingly lackluster set the last time he played the main stage at DEMF, but
 I can forgive him since I've heard him play enough times to know that he can
 send me into orbit in a way that very few DJs can, especially when he plays
 in smaller venues.

 The fact that he'll be playing live makes me super curious.

 Changes are opt for May and Hood and pop into Inner City occasionally

 I hate having to float from stage to stage, but sometimes it can't be
 helped.

 {}0+|

 On 5/24/2010 10:03 AM, kent williams wrote:

 Well, to my mind it's a no brainer -- Inner City will be meh, Derrick
 May plays everywhere all the time.

 Robert Hood is a monster, not to be missed.  You know how every DJ
 that plays banging minimal techno sounds the same?  Robert Hood
 doesn't.  His sets are hard as nails, and always exciting.

 I've seen DJ Bone and T1000 be excellent playing hard and fast, but
 Hood is unique.

 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:24 AM, darnistledarnis...@cafe-ebola.com
  wrote:

 http://www.movement.us/?p52

 Derrick May, Robert Hood and Inner City all at the same time!?!?

 Good gooly!! That puts me in a very difficult situation.