RE: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread alex . bond

BTW - Totally agree about Herbie... not trying to take anything away
from him. But as a proponent of future music (esp. of the detroit
flavor) I can't just sit back and say well that sound has been done
better 30 years ago by someone else so why bother.  I want people to
keep pushing, I want to hear someone who'll in 30 more years have blown
Herbie away... hey I know it's far fetched but you know what I mean.
Once you have the Herbie moments on vinyl you need, there's plenty of
places and trajectories he's launched forward... I want to seek out
where those seeds landed and who is taking it forward... on the
electronic tip especially.  Ayro seems promising...

Talking of Herbie - did anyone in the UK see the 'South Bank Show' last
Sunday?
They did a special on him. Loads of wicked old footage of him in the
70's/80's.
Lots of interesting insights too.

I've got a few Herbie H LP's and 12's. Although I tend to find myself
liking the LP's that he did that weren't necessarily trad jazz lps. He said
in the documentary that every so often he does a project thats 'now' and
deliberately goes out to make an LP with a particular sound as opposed to
something he might do that he feels is him. I think the Sunlight LP (which
I really like) was his take on disco etc etc, and then other LP's for diff.
genres e.g. Headhunters for funk etc. I also like the LP with Magic Number
on - something windows its called.

I dunno, I know nothing about jazz. I have a few Miles Davis LPs, some
Pharoh Sanders stuff and that, but I've never been able to find much more
stuff that I'm really enthusistic about (mainly because I don't even know
what to look for). 'In a Silent way' is something I like...

Maybe JT can recommend some stuff for us for the list? or anyone else? top
5 jazz lp's to find that we might like??
would be interested to know.

Alex
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Re: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread Jonny McIntosh
 Talking of Herbie - did anyone in the UK see the 'South Bank Show' last
 Sunday?
 They did a special on him. Loads of wicked old footage of him in the
 70's/80's.
 Lots of interesting insights too.

Hee hee. I don't like biographical type documentaries. I'd rather they got
into the technical stuff, the problems they faced etc. Even if you know
nothing in advance you learn something, and some of the enthusiasm rubs off.
I saw a fantastic documentary on Mark Morris, the choreographer. Usually I'd
put dance on a par with Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals but not after seeing
that.

Jurren: Flood is good, especially the cover art! Check with Nick the
Record, I think he has one on sale. Hit me off list if you want.

 Maybe JT can recommend some stuff for us for the list? or anyone else? top
 5 jazz lp's to find that we might like??
 would be interested to know.

Personally, I'll stick to Blue Note and suggest, as well as those Herbie
Hancock LPs:

Joe Henderson's Page One
Kenny Dorham's Una Mas
Bobby Hutcherson's Patterns
Eric Dolphy Out To Lunch!
Pete LaRoca Basra

That's nowhere near enough!

J



Re: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread alex . bond

Joe Henderson's Page One
Kenny Dorham's Una Mas
Bobby Hutcherson's Patterns
Eric Dolphy Out To Lunch!
Pete LaRoca Basra

Nice one Jonny - thats what I was looking for.

I got the Eric Dolphy - forgot to say - I'll have to pull that out, not
listened to it in a while. I like it though, its pretty mad.

That's nowhere near enough!

carry on then.!

P.S. did you check the re-edit of secret friend? worth getting?
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Re: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread Adam H

Check out Sun Ra

(Out To Lunch is brilliant, pick that up if you get the chance)



That's nowhere near enough!


carry on then.!

P.S. did you check the re-edit of secret friend? worth getting?
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RE: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
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I dunno, I know nothing about jazz. I have a few Miles Davis LPs,
some
Pharoh Sanders stuff and that, but I've never been able to find
much more
stuff that I'm really enthusistic about (mainly because I don't
even know
what to look for). 

if you like sanders, you should definitely get coltrane's a love
supreme and meditations both of which feature pharoh heavily
and are awesome records. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight

also look into McCoy Tyner - pianist with Coltrance
I've got Extensions by Tyner which has a great line-up of Alice Coltrane
on harp (wife of John), Elvin Jones on drums, Wayne Shorter and Gary Bartz
on sax, and Ron Carter on bass .

however, if you want to hear one, if not the greatest trumpet player look
for Clifford Brown - if he had lived longer he might very well have
eclipsed Miles Davis.

MEK



   
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I dunno, I know nothing about jazz. I have a few Miles Davis LPs,
some
Pharoh Sanders stuff and that, but I've never been able to find
much more
stuff that I'm really enthusistic about (mainly because I don't
even know
what to look for).

if you like sanders, you should definitely get coltrane's a love
supreme and meditations both of which feature pharoh heavily
and are awesome records.

tom


andythepooh.com











Re: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread jurren baars

Maybe JT can recommend some stuff for us for the list? or anyone else? top
5 jazz lp's to find that we might like??
would be interested to know.


Personally, I'll stick to Blue Note and suggest, as well as those Herbie 
Hancock LPs:


Joe Henderson's Page One
Kenny Dorham's Una Mas
Bobby Hutcherson's Patterns
Eric Dolphy Out To Lunch!
Pete LaRoca Basra


jonny, if i didn't know any better, i'd say you're a joe henderson fan ;^)

i recommend checking kirk detroitio's hall of fame @ 
http://www.kirkdegiorgio.com


he points quite a couple of records out, and even describes them, so you've 
got a vague idea what you're buying.
and even if kirk's favorites turn out not to be your personal favorites, 
they'll help you find what you're looking for. as that's always been my main 
problem: where to start?


oh, and when digging for unknown artists; always go for the funky looking 
bands, and guys with beards, you'll never fail ;^)


jurren

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Re: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread Jason Hogans
there is a compilation of herbie's warner bros. years that absolutely
changed my life. http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/cd/review.asp?aid=11028
i listened in awe as my ideas of what music could be totally exploded. never
gets old.  yummy. 

on 7/7/03 12:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
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 also look into McCoy Tyner...

 i like this album a lot...
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amguid=CASS80307071313sql=An7jqeat24x
a7  shake, i'll hit you up soon! okaybyebye

jph



Re: (313) Herbie H

2003-07-07 Thread Michel Rijnders
On Monday 07 July 2003 11:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe JT can recommend some stuff for us for the list? or anyone else? top
 5 jazz lp's to find that we might like??

Top 5 jazz LPs I like:
1) Pharoah Sanders: Journey To The One
2) Herbie Hancock: Maiden Voyage
3) Sun Ra: Lanquidity
4) Alice Coltran: Journey In Satchidananda
5) Doug Hammond, David Durrah, Otis Harris et al.: Reflections In The Sea Of 
Nurnen

Cheers,
Michel