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On Mar 31, 2005, at 9:39 AM, kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with everyone that says Sonar Barcelona is not worth the trip. Not only is the lineup lackluster and the city not at its best at that time of year, but also Sonar doesn't take care of the majority of artists that play at the festival. As someone who has been to Sonar 4 times, I couldn't possibly disagree more. Barcelona is absolutely magical at that time of year. The festival itself may have gone downhill during the last 6 years since I first went, but it's not just about the festival - it's like drugs, set setting is the key ... And as for the pay-to-play thing, I know several people that have played at Sonar (the Plug Research guys, John Tejada) and will ask them the next time I see them if they got paid, got nothing, or had to pay to play. (That said, I bet the lineups at Mutek and the Synch festival outside Athens will be better than Sonar's.) - Greg
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONCERTS DJ'S JOE ENGLISH plays NOISE FACTORY RECORDS (CA) Just noticed this... that's great to see! Joe's been supporting the local indie scene here in Toronto for years. He got the name for the label from an industrial/alternative collective my friends and i were part of back in the mid to late 80's. A friend of mine (Terence Leung) started using the name for a few one off events, and I had a college radio show that was called Noise Factory Radio with another friend (Tony Rizzuto). Joe kindly asked us back in 199? if he could use the name for a label he wanted to start. ...and on a 313 related link - Mr. Neil Weirnik aka NAW is on the Noise Factory label. i'm surprised he hasn't chimed in on this yet, as he does like to promote himself around these parts! ;) Cheers! G
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ok guys, seeing that i dont really care much for this year's lineup, is there any valid reason for me to go? i have heard (mainly on this list) that there is much more to sonar than the shows..is this true? fab. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: (313) SONAR 2005 CONCERTS DJ'S 2 MANY DJ'S (PIAS/BE) 2020 SOUNDSYSTEM (2020 VISION/GB) ALEX THREADGOLD plays SOUND-INK (US) CUT CHEMIST (WARNER/US) DE LA SOUL (SANCTUARY REC/US) DJ YODA (ANTIDOTE/GB) DJ99 / GUTTORM ANDREASEN plays WASABI (NO) ELLEN ALLIEN (B-PITCH CONTROL/DE) FERGIE (GB) GOODIEPAL (SKI-PP/DK) HOT CHIP (MOSHI MOSHI REC/GB) JAMES MURPHY (DFA/US) JAMIE LIDELL (WARP/GB) JEFF MILLS (AXIS/US) JOE ENGLISH plays NOISE FACTORY RECORDS (CA) JORIS VOORN (SINO/NL) LAURENT GARNIER (FCOMM/FR) LCD SOUNDSYSTEM (DFA/US) LE TIGRE (UNIVERSAL/US) M.I.A. (XL/GB) MARK ONE + VIRUS SYNDICATE (PLANET MU/GB) MISS KITTIN (NOBODY'S BIZZNESS/FR) MOCKY (FOUR MUSIC/CA) MOUSE ON MARS (SONIG/DE) MU (OUTPUT RECORDS/JP) NOAH23 (2nd REC/CA) PARAL-LEL plays BEE RECORDS (FR) PELLARIN MYLLEAGER play STATLER WALDORF (DK) PETER GEBERT plays LUX NIGRA (DE) RADIAN (THRILL JOCKEY/AU) ROISIN MURPHY (ECHO/GB) SIMON RUSSELL plays ROUGH TRADE SHOPS (UK) SÓLO LOS SOLO (DEL PALO/ES) SOULWAX (PIAS/BE) SUBTLE (LEX/US) THE BATTLES (US) THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE (NO) THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS (VIRGIN/GB) THE DURUTTI COLUMN (KOOKY DISCS/GB) THE SOFT PINK TRUTH (ACCIDENTAL/US) TOWATOM (JP/DE) SHOWCASES --- - AÑO GASTRONOMIA presents CUISINE CONCRÈTE (ES) MATTHEW HERBERT - PLAT DU JOUR (GB) --- - AREAL presents ADA (DE) BASTEROID (DE) --- - AUTOPILOT PUBLISHING presents FS BLUMM (DE) GUIDO MÖBIUS (DE) VERT (DE) --- - CIRCUS COMPANY presents NÔZE (FR) SETY (FR) --- - COMPOST presents ALEX ATTIAS (DE) BEN MONO (DE) GENERAL ELECTRICS (DE) --- - DOMINO with EAT YOUR OWN EARS presents HOOD (GB) TO ROCOCO ROT (DE) --- - ELETRONIKA BRASIL UNDERGROUND presents ARTIFICIAL (BR) HURTMOLD + ROB MAZUREK (BR) M. TAKARA (BR) --- - GET PHYSICAL presents BOOKA SHADE (DE) DJ T (DE) --- - GOMMA presents HILTMEYER INC TOMBOY (DE) MUNK (DE) WHOMADEWHO (DE) --- - HÄPNA presents TAPE (SE) --- - M-NUS presents MARC HOULE (CA) MATHEW JONSON (CA) RICHIE HAWTIN (CA) TROY PIERCE vs MAGDA (US-CA) --- - PLATFORM MUSIC presents DJSOS KROST (DK) EFTERKLANG (DK) PHARFAR NED FLANDERS (DK) --- - REGULAR presents IÑAKI MARÍN (ES) JAUMËTIC (ES) --- - STUDIO RAREKWAI/NOROSHI-BEATS FROM THE EAST presents AFRA (JP) DJ BAKU+MSC (JP) DJ JIFROCK (JP) TATSUKI (JP) --- - SUBTERFUGE presents CYCLE (ES) --- - THIRD EAR MADe IN JAPAN presents REI HARAKAMI SHIRO TAKATANI (JP) WORLD'S END GIRLFRIEND + BAND (JP) YAMAUCHI (JP) --- - TYPE REC. presents KHONNOR (GB) MIDAIRCONDO (GB) XELA AEIOU (GB) ** Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail, and any attachments it may have, is only intended for the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you have received this e-mail in error, and any attachments it may have, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Thank you for your co-operation. ** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
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It's the greatest city in the world and there are some great club nights, so you don't need to bother with the event itself (esp. the night one) Yes, it is a nice city.. ..but please note that it is getting popular in Barcelona to add some fuk'n high season extra to accommodation prices in Barcelona during Sonar festival. I would highly recommend to visit the city some other time.. But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already?
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Highlights to me would be: Areal Records, Alex Attias, Matthew Jonson, and maybe Hawtin. Good ones, but not enough of them to make me want to go to Bercelona at that particular time of the year. k -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 16:32 To: fab.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) SONAR 2005 It's the greatest city in the world and there are some great club nights, so you don't need to bother with the event itself (esp. the night one) -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 14:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) SONAR 2005 ok guys, seeing that i dont really care much for this year's lineup, is there any valid reason for me to go? i have heard (mainly on this list) that there is much more to sonar than the shows..is this true? fab. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: (313) SONAR 2005 CONCERTS DJ'S 2 MANY DJ'S (PIAS/BE) 2020 SOUNDSYSTEM (2020 VISION/GB) ALEX THREADGOLD plays SOUND-INK (US) CUT CHEMIST (WARNER/US) DE LA SOUL (SANCTUARY REC/US) DJ YODA (ANTIDOTE/GB) DJ99 / GUTTORM ANDREASEN plays WASABI (NO) ELLEN ALLIEN (B-PITCH CONTROL/DE) FERGIE (GB) GOODIEPAL (SKI-PP/DK) HOT CHIP (MOSHI MOSHI REC/GB) JAMES MURPHY (DFA/US) JAMIE LIDELL (WARP/GB) JEFF MILLS (AXIS/US) JOE ENGLISH plays NOISE FACTORY RECORDS (CA) JORIS VOORN (SINO/NL) LAURENT GARNIER (FCOMM/FR) LCD SOUNDSYSTEM (DFA/US) LE TIGRE (UNIVERSAL/US) M.I.A. (XL/GB) MARK ONE + VIRUS SYNDICATE (PLANET MU/GB) MISS KITTIN (NOBODY'S BIZZNESS/FR) MOCKY (FOUR MUSIC/CA) MOUSE ON MARS (SONIG/DE) MU (OUTPUT RECORDS/JP) NOAH23 (2nd REC/CA) PARAL-LEL plays BEE RECORDS (FR) PELLARIN MYLLEAGER play STATLER WALDORF (DK) PETER GEBERT plays LUX NIGRA (DE) RADIAN (THRILL JOCKEY/AU) ROISIN MURPHY (ECHO/GB) SIMON RUSSELL plays ROUGH TRADE SHOPS (UK) SÓLO LOS SOLO (DEL PALO/ES) SOULWAX (PIAS/BE) SUBTLE (LEX/US) THE BATTLES (US) THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE (NO) THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS (VIRGIN/GB) THE DURUTTI COLUMN (KOOKY DISCS/GB) THE SOFT PINK TRUTH (ACCIDENTAL/US) TOWATOM (JP/DE) SHOWCASES --- - AÑO GASTRONOMIA presents CUISINE CONCRÈTE (ES) MATTHEW HERBERT - PLAT DU JOUR (GB) --- - AREAL presents ADA (DE) BASTEROID (DE) --- - AUTOPILOT PUBLISHING presents FS BLUMM (DE) GUIDO MÖBIUS (DE) VERT (DE) --- - CIRCUS COMPANY presents NÔZE (FR) SETY (FR) --- - COMPOST presents ALEX ATTIAS (DE) BEN MONO (DE) GENERAL ELECTRICS (DE) --- - DOMINO with EAT YOUR OWN EARS presents HOOD (GB) TO ROCOCO ROT (DE) --- - ELETRONIKA BRASIL UNDERGROUND presents ARTIFICIAL (BR) HURTMOLD + ROB MAZUREK (BR) M. TAKARA (BR) --- - GET PHYSICAL presents BOOKA SHADE (DE) DJ T (DE) --- - GOMMA presents HILTMEYER INC TOMBOY (DE) MUNK (DE) WHOMADEWHO (DE) --- - HÄPNA presents TAPE (SE) --- - M-NUS presents MARC HOULE (CA) MATHEW JONSON (CA) RICHIE HAWTIN (CA) TROY PIERCE vs MAGDA (US-CA) --- - PLATFORM MUSIC presents DJSOS KROST (DK) EFTERKLANG (DK) PHARFAR NED FLANDERS (DK) --- - REGULAR presents IÑAKI MARÍN (ES) JAUMËTIC (ES) --- - STUDIO RAREKWAI/NOROSHI-BEATS FROM THE EAST presents AFRA (JP) DJ BAKU+MSC (JP) DJ JIFROCK (JP) TATSUKI (JP) --- - SUBTERFUGE presents CYCLE (ES) --- - THIRD EAR MADe IN JAPAN presents REI HARAKAMI SHIRO TAKATANI (JP) WORLD'S END GIRLFRIEND + BAND (JP) YAMAUCHI (JP) --- - TYPE REC. presents KHONNOR (GB) MIDAIRCONDO (GB) XELA AEIOU (GB) ** Entertainment UK Limited Registered Office: 243 Blyth Road, Hayes, Middlesex UB3 1DN. Registered in England Numbered 409775 This e-mail, and any attachments it may have, is only intended
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It is a great city. I just like being in Barcelona with a few friends, soaking up the sun the atmosphere. Having a good festival to go to is a bonus! I don't like large events / festivals in the U.K usually, but at Sonar it seems to be organized so much better. The sound quality for such a large venue is excellent. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __
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At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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Get an apartment with friends or go to a hostel. I stayed in a deluxe apartment with a roof terrace opposite Gaudi's Palau Guell for only £100 for 7 nights -Original Message- From: matt kane's brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 14:41 To: Johannes Gronvall Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) SONAR 2005 At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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hmmm ken i recently saw Mathew Jonson here in rome and he totally blew us away so im thinking it cant get any better than thatjust a feeling. regarding Hawtin Villalobos, im thinking that the best place ever to see them play is definitely in Berlin, especially at the free Club Der Visionaere after hour club on the river - 'twas a free party and RR played the most amazing music non stop for over 4 hours after having played most of the night at Watergate. Definitely a party for those who know, a sort of hush hush affair;). anyway RR as well as Magda (and Dimbiman, and others) are all playing here in Roma for the Dissonanze festival in May, so that's one of the reasons im not feeling Sonar. Plus i've seen almost all the artists form this years lineup, so i dont feel like employing resources to go to Barca and risk seeing something like Mills playing looped bangers to a horde of pilled-up 20 somethings. Barcellona is great, but i think the best period is around the 20th of September for the Fiesta della Merce (local patron saint) where its 3 days of revelling for all the city and there are tons of free parties with international guests, all orgnized by the city council. fab. ps: if you want to know more about Der Visonaere just ask :) - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fab. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: RE: (313) SONAR 2005 Highlights to me would be: Areal Records, Alex Attias, Matthew Jonson, and maybe Hawtin. Good ones, but not enough of them to make me want to go to Bercelona at that particular time of the year. k -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 16:32 To: fab.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) SONAR 2005 It's the greatest city in the world and there are some great club nights, so you don't need to bother with the event itself (esp. the night one) -Original Message- From: fab. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 14:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) SONAR 2005 ok guys, seeing that i dont really care much for this year's lineup, is there any valid reason for me to go? i have heard (mainly on this list) that there is much more to sonar than the shows..is this true? fab. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: (313) SONAR 2005 CONCERTS DJ'S 2 MANY DJ'S (PIAS/BE) 2020 SOUNDSYSTEM (2020 VISION/GB) ALEX THREADGOLD plays SOUND-INK (US) CUT CHEMIST (WARNER/US) DE LA SOUL (SANCTUARY REC/US) DJ YODA (ANTIDOTE/GB) DJ99 / GUTTORM ANDREASEN plays WASABI (NO) ELLEN ALLIEN (B-PITCH CONTROL/DE) FERGIE (GB) GOODIEPAL (SKI-PP/DK) HOT CHIP (MOSHI MOSHI REC/GB) JAMES MURPHY (DFA/US) JAMIE LIDELL (WARP/GB) JEFF MILLS (AXIS/US) JOE ENGLISH plays NOISE FACTORY RECORDS (CA) JORIS VOORN (SINO/NL) LAURENT GARNIER (FCOMM/FR) LCD SOUNDSYSTEM (DFA/US) LE TIGRE (UNIVERSAL/US) M.I.A. (XL/GB) MARK ONE + VIRUS SYNDICATE (PLANET MU/GB) MISS KITTIN (NOBODY'S BIZZNESS/FR) MOCKY (FOUR MUSIC/CA) MOUSE ON MARS (SONIG/DE) MU (OUTPUT RECORDS/JP) NOAH23 (2nd REC/CA) PARAL-LEL plays BEE RECORDS (FR) PELLARIN MYLLEAGER play STATLER WALDORF (DK) PETER GEBERT plays LUX NIGRA (DE) RADIAN (THRILL JOCKEY/AU) ROISIN MURPHY (ECHO/GB) SIMON RUSSELL plays ROUGH TRADE SHOPS (UK) SÓLO LOS SOLO (DEL PALO/ES) SOULWAX (PIAS/BE) SUBTLE (LEX/US) THE BATTLES (US) THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE (NO) THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS (VIRGIN/GB) THE DURUTTI COLUMN (KOOKY DISCS/GB) THE SOFT PINK TRUTH (ACCIDENTAL/US) TOWATOM (JP/DE) SHOWCASES --- - AÑO GASTRONOMIA presents CUISINE CONCRÈTE (ES) MATTHEW HERBERT - PLAT DU JOUR (GB) --- - AREAL presents ADA (DE) BASTEROID (DE) --- - AUTOPILOT PUBLISHING presents FS BLUMM (DE) GUIDO MÖBIUS (DE) VERT (DE) --- - CIRCUS COMPANY presents NÔZE (FR) SETY (FR) --- - COMPOST presents ALEX ATTIAS (DE) BEN MONO (DE) GENERAL ELECTRICS (DE) --- - DOMINO with EAT YOUR OWN EARS presents HOOD (GB) TO ROCOCO ROT (DE) --- - ELETRONIKA BRASIL UNDERGROUND presents ARTIFICIAL (BR) HURTMOLD + ROB MAZUREK (BR) M. TAKARA (BR) --- - GET PHYSICAL presents BOOKA SHADE (DE) DJ T (DE) --- - GOMMA presents HILTMEYER INC TOMBOY (DE) MUNK (DE) WHOMADEWHO (DE
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Get an apartment with friends or go to a hostel. I stayed in a deluxe apartment with a roof terrace opposite Gaudi's Palau Guell for only £100 for 7 nights I've also stayed in an apartment with friends a few times and highly recommend it. You get the equipped kitchen etc for less than a hotel room. But last year they also switched to high season pricing with 20-30% extra to regular prices. Check the google with some appropriate search words..it's still a better deal than hotels.
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thats a great tip guys, thanks! fab. - Original Message - From: Johannes Gronvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Johannes Gronvall [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: Re: (313) SONAR 2005 Get an apartment with friends or go to a hostel. I stayed in a deluxe apartment with a roof terrace opposite Gaudi's Palau Guell for only £100 for 7 nights I've also stayed in an apartment with friends a few times and highly recommend it. You get the equipped kitchen etc for less than a hotel room. But last year they also switched to high season pricing with 20-30% extra to regular prices. Check the google with some appropriate search words..it's still a better deal than hotels.
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I agree with everyone that says Sonar Barcelona is not worth the trip. Not only is the lineup lackluster and the city not at it's best at that time of year, but also Sonar doesn't take care of the majority of artists that play at the festival. According to a trusted Germany producer friend (who has been booked at Sonar), only the main acts like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills and a couple of really big English acts with strong management get paid to play. They pay very few of the German acts (Villalobos now probably) - they all have to pay their own flights, no wage and only receive a hotel room for one day! So, many of the artists that we would consider paying to see, never get paid themselves. How does that support the music subculture??? On Thursday, March 31, 2005, at 08:41AM, matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk kate simko site* http://www.katesimko.com downloads/ links* http://homepage.mac.com/ksimko/File_Sharing out soon: Remix of Philip Glass Houston Skyline (OMM - June 05) Remix of Rebecca Gates In A Star Orbit (Badman - Fall 05)
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At 10:39 AM 3/31/2005, kate simko wrote: So, many of the artists that we would consider paying to see, never get paid themselves. How does that support the music subculture??? The question is: do they agree to play for free? If yes, then they have determined that the exposure gained from playing at Sonar is worth the expense and time despite not being compensated. Otherwise, it's shady. Without a clear answer, does it matter? -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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I think generally the idea has been that it's a huge publicity opportunity for the artists, so it's more than worth doing for free. In fact, I had been under the impression that the artists playing at the daytime event actually paid to play, much the same way as you would pay to have a record stand there - it's all for promotion. I think in that sense it supports the sub-culture far more than a couple of hundred quid and a plane ticket would. I guess when it started up it also wouldn't have been possible to run such an underground event if everyone was expecting their usual fee. Personally, I don' think that's a bad thing at all, I'm all for the scene being based more on mutual support rather than cash, where possible. Though I guess now the festival is such a huge success, it should possibly be re-assessed. - Original Message - From: kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Johannes Gronvall [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: Re: (313) SONAR 2005 I agree with everyone that says Sonar Barcelona is not worth the trip. Not only is the lineup lackluster and the city not at it's best at that time of year, but also Sonar doesn't take care of the majority of artists that play at the festival. According to a trusted Germany producer friend (who has been booked at Sonar), only the main acts like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills and a couple of really big English acts with strong management get paid to play. They pay very few of the German acts (Villalobos now probably) - they all have to pay their own flights, no wage and only receive a hotel room for one day! So, many of the artists that we would consider paying to see, never get paid themselves. How does that support the music subculture??? On Thursday, March 31, 2005, at 08:41AM, matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk kate simko site* http://www.katesimko.com downloads/ links* http://homepage.mac.com/ksimko/File_Sharing out soon: Remix of Philip Glass Houston Skyline (OMM - June 05) Remix of Rebecca Gates In A Star Orbit (Badman - Fall 05)
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Well, if you are willing to travel a bit extra, I keep seeing VERY cheap tickets to Madrid from the US, at least from places like NY or Chicago... ~David -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) SONAR 2005 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:40:53 -0500 From: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Johannes Gronvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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it's a little early to purchase flights. they'll go down. as for hotels, look into smaller travel hotels/hostels i think i paid 60 euros a night On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, matt kane's brain wrote: At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk
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i think a lot of festivals are like this. at least in my limited experience -joe - Original Message - From: kate simko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Johannes Gronvall [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: (313) SONAR 2005 I agree with everyone that says Sonar Barcelona is not worth the trip. Not only is the lineup lackluster and the city not at it's best at that time of year, but also Sonar doesn't take care of the majority of artists that play at the festival. According to a trusted Germany producer friend (who has been booked at Sonar), only the main acts like Richie Hawtin, Jeff Mills and a couple of really big English acts with strong management get paid to play. They pay very few of the German acts (Villalobos now probably) - they all have to pay their own flights, no wage and only receive a hotel room for one day! So, many of the artists that we would consider paying to see, never get paid themselves. How does that support the music subculture??? On Thursday, March 31, 2005, at 08:41AM, matt kane's brain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:37 AM 3/31/2005, Johannes Gronvall wrote: But if you're going there you should book the accommodation *right now*! Getting some decent and cheap rooms to sleep in is getting difficult..it may be too late already? well, i can't find a flight from the US for less than a grand, and hotels appear to be in the US$800 range on orbitz. no sonar for me :( -- unsigned short int to_yer_mama; matt kane's brain http://www.hydrogenproject.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] || AIM: mkbatwerk kate simko site* http://www.katesimko.com downloads/ links* http://homepage.mac.com/ksimko/File_Sharing out soon: Remix of Philip Glass Houston Skyline (OMM - June 05) Remix of Rebecca Gates In A Star Orbit (Badman - Fall 05)
