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Hmmm actually that description is intriguing... Ken -Original Message- From: irid...@gmail.com [mailto:irid...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ja...@iridite.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:46 PM To: Robert Taylor Cc: kent williams; mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot It's not Dubstep apparently (even though it's on Hyperdub)- it's UK Funky - possibly the worst name for a genre since..errr, I don't know - NU Jazz? It sounds like a mixture of 4 Hero's Talking Loud era stuff and maybe some Phil Asher/Restless Soul stuff and..early 90's deep bass techno (Forgemasters/Rythmatic) - and maybe some of the freestylin' early Detroit Rythyms - Ive been impressed with what I've heard so far in everything but name. Jason 2009/6/25 Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk: I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
RE: (313) mills the good robot
Did anyone read the interview in The Wire with her. She likes to play her mums old techno records in her ukfunky sets. Id love to know which ones. But yeah not bad tune too. Rav. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:04 To: kent williams; ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: RE: (313) mills the good robot I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 # To view the terms under which this email is distributed, please go to http://disclaimer.leedsmet.ac.uk/email.htm
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This is Glasgow - I'm afraid girls aren't into Techno here as a rule. I remember going to Sonar for the first time in 1999 and being genuinely amazed at the mix of the crowd there dancing to Mills - it was nearly 50/50! We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) 2009/6/25 mislav bobic mis...@pointsingapore.com.sg: just watched that one as well ! totally agree. wonder why there are no girls in that club though ;-)) On Jun 25, 2009, at 2:49 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken.
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Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: This is Glasgow - I'm afraid girls aren't into Techno here as a rule. I remember going to Sonar for the first time in 1999 and being genuinely amazed at the mix of the crowd there dancing to Mills - it was nearly 50/50! We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) 2009/6/25 mislav bobic mis...@pointsingapore.com.sg: just watched that one as well ! totally agree. wonder why there are no girls in that club though ;-)) On Jun 25, 2009, at 2:49 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
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I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Yep, sausage fests all the way. I don't really get it. Same goes for writing about the music as well. And for producing and DJing, especially in Detroit! And sure, there are plenty of talented female DJs and producers around the world, just not nearly as many as the dudes. Denise On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw
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Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw
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DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. - unless you have a silly haircut :p Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:41 To: David Powers Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas Holy lineup I feel a blog post about the ladies coming on... -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:41 To: David Powers Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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It's not Dubstep apparently (even though it's on Hyperdub)- it's UK Funky - possibly the worst name for a genre since..errr, I don't know - NU Jazz? It sounds like a mixture of 4 Hero's Talking Loud era stuff and maybe some Phil Asher/Restless Soul stuff and..early 90's deep bass techno (Forgemasters/Rythmatic) - and maybe some of the freestylin' early Detroit Rythyms - Ive been impressed with what I've heard so far in everything but name. Jason 2009/6/25 Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk: I love the Cooly G stuff I've heard - a curious hybrid of genres Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 15:24 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: mislav bobic; 313 Org; james.hurl...@utoronto.ca Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:37 AM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: We've done some instores at the shop recently and there was a reasonable turnout of ladies for Cooly G at the Hyperdub event - don't think there was many for Surgeon though :) Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track. Re Surgeon: The ladies know he's taken. # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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Heh - it must just be Barcelona then! 2009/6/25 jwan allen jwan.al...@gmail.com: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw
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Long standing debate that one - maybe they (female producers/djs/writers) just can't break through or maybe they don't get into it in the first place because they know it'll be too hard to break through...or maybe their brains are wired differently and they just don;t care enough about the Man/Machine interface, circuit boards, reall yobscure mispresses and other highly interesting things :) Or maybe all three. Jason 2009/6/25 Denise Dalphond ddalp...@umail.iu.edu: Yep, sausage fests all the way. I don't really get it. Same goes for writing about the music as well. And for producing and DJing, especially in Detroit! And sure, there are plenty of talented female DJs and producers around the world, just not nearly as many as the dudes. Denise On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw -- Denise Dalphond Ph.D. Candidate Department of Folklore Ethnomusicology Indiana University http://denisedjsdetroit.blogspot.com/
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It hasn't stopped several well know DJ's (one of who's name I wont even mention for the sake of everybody's sanity!) - that Feadz from ed banger was in teh shop the other day and his do is pretty bad...actually it's pretty dog on a string sort of vibe. Also see previous post about Mr Slater too. 2009/6/25 Robert Taylor rdtay...@channel4.co.uk: DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. - unless you have a silly haircut :p Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Lori Draper [mailto:girly...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2009 16:41 To: David Powers Cc: 313 Org Subject: Re: (313) mills the good robot Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent. Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but rather, strictly for their talent. DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote: That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-) Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the last year. But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly. ~David On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this side of the ocean as well.:) jw # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@channel4.co.uk Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #
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FACT Cooly G mix that I've been listening to recently: http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=2507Itemid=28 Has a couple of those tracks on. robin... Speaking of which, the Cooly G Narst/Love Dub EP is pretty Detroit-esque for UK dubsep. Love Dub especially is a sweet track.
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Maybe it's the weather, maybe it's being trapped on an island with all the other yobs, but I feel like the UK would sink in the ocean if it wasn't inventing a genre every few minutes. You'll have to excuse we Yanks if we can't keep up. Case in point -- Boomkat has this '14 tracks' thing where they sell 14 tracks under a topic heading. Their latest one is 'Opening Up UK Funky.' While there are several tracks I'd identify as 'UK funky' about half of them are from releases I already own, that I thought were dubstep. What would happen to a producer in the UK who just made what he or she felt like making, and didn't align themselves with a scene? Lucky there's a Welfare State in place, otherwise they'd starve. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, ja...@iridite.comja...@iridite.com wrote: It's not Dubstep apparently (even though it's on Hyperdub)- it's UK Funky - possibly the worst name for a genre since..errr, I don't know - NU Jazz?
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Whenever I hear about a party that advertises that all the DJs are
women, I feel suspicious. The lure should be the music that'll be
played, not the gender of the DJs.
Unless their gender has some direct bearing on what I'll hear, why
bother to mention it?
It makes me think that the party will likely attract a bunch of smarmy
guys who'll be there for the girl-watching and not the music, which will
make me less inclined to go to the party.
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Lori Draper wrote:
Yeah, Denise and I are here to represent the female contingent.
Magda is one of the better DJs I've seen live and I would love it if
she, Kate Simko or Minx would play in Dallas I'd be there in a
heartbeat. Heather and Dayhota always kill it when they are here; I
hope I live to see the day when female DJs aren't regulated to playing
all-girl theme nights, topless, or as some kind of other gimmick but
rather, strictly for their talent.
DJing is one of the few music realms where it really shouldn't matter
what you look like; unfortunately, that's true only for the guys.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:22 AM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote:
That's why I play deep house now, that, and I'm too old to dance to
anything faster than 128 bpm... ;-)
Seriously though it's hard for me to get into pounding stuff or really
fast tempos anymore, I did enjoy Mills when he played at Smartbar
Chicago though, that's about the only hard stuff I've heard in the
last year.
But slower tempos just seem way sexier and funkier mostly.
~David
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, jwan allenjwan.al...@gmail.com wrote:
Jason,
I can assure you that most Techno events are sausage parties on this
side of the ocean as well.:)
jw
(313) Voorn was Re: (313) mills the good robot
james.hurl...@utoronto.ca wrote: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can Speaking of Orlando, he's got a new label starting up called Divine Records. First 3 releases are from him, Wyndell Long, and Subotica. Andrew 2 posts in a row, can you guess my children are napping? :) Duke
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Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
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Never mind all that stuff about robots, technology etc- whaddabout Luke Slater's new haircut Tt's a belter (see Resident Advisor for further info/inspiration)! These are the important issues that get discussed too infrequently in my opinion. Jason 2009/6/24 ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
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if it would be about taking a piss then fine I guess but seems they are pretty serious abut the haircuts these days huh ?!?! so today if you're bold, you're fakd...;-)) On Jun 25, 2009, at 3:53 AM, ja...@iridite.com wrote: Never mind all that stuff about robots, technology etc- whaddabout Luke Slater's new haircut Tt's a belter (see Resident Advisor for further info/inspiration)! These are the important issues that get discussed too infrequently in my opinion. Jason 2009/6/24 ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com: Damn- that's a really good interview. Weird to see a more loquacious Mills - he can be very quite and reserved sometimes but he fairly jacked up the word count for this interviewer. The point about the Laptop and having a multitude of tracks to choose from is something I wholeheartedly agree with - all good stuff Jason 2009/6/24 james.hurl...@utoronto.ca: http://www.eq-mag.co.uk/jeffmills.html amused by the contrast in perspectives between Mills' the Good Robot and Orlando Voorn's Yes We Can
