Re: [313] control 3
thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [313] control 3 I'm woundering if this is goning to be at city club again? I'm looking at getting a room at the hotel there if it is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [313] control 3 I'm woundering if this is goning to be at city club again? I'm looking at getting a room at the hotel there if it is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
:( - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [313] control 3 I'm woundering if this is goning to be at city club again? I'm looking at getting a room at the hotel there if it is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear has anything to do with good music are idiots. too loud is as bad as too quiet, if not worse. the point is to hear the music not be aurally beaten into submission From: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] control 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:34:53 -0400 :( - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [313] control 3 I'm woundering if this is goning to be at city club again? I'm looking at getting a room at the hotel there if it is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear to do with good music are idiots. more to the point, beyond the capabilities of the equipment (levels in the red anywhere in the system, and i am not insinuating here that rich does this). once you do this it's the distortion that will get your ears. i'm amazed at the number of 'known name' djs who i've seen do this. robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
- Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear to do with good music are idiots. more to the point, beyond the capabilities of the equipment (levels in the red anywhere in the system, and i am not insinuating here that rich does this). oh he does it. anyone at the works last week knows this. rich evidently couldnt hear the PA speakers clipping from his spot in the booth. maybe hes not running the gear in the red, but the PA speakers were sure as hell overwhelmed by his EQing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
If this is the point then why not stay at home, plug in a pair of headphones to your hi-fi and crank the volumne up to full - it'll make you just as deaf. I honestly see no point in places the play music at rediculas levels. It becomes too loud to actually hear properly, distorts badly (caused by both the ear and the equipment not being able to take the levels), hurts and can cause people serious hearing problems. Whats the attraction? talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You guys are crazy. Any DJ would sound amazing on that rig. Even some loser like Paul Oakenfold. Although the music would still suck. telepathic regards, the kooky scientist -- Upcoming Live Electronic Demonstrations: August 9th - Motor - Detroit w/T1000 - (Motor is closing down ; ( http://www.motordetroit.com/display.php?day=9month=8year=2002 Sept. 11th - The Phoenix Landing - Cambridge, MA http://www.redlightproductions.com -- TELEPATHICA - P.O.B.80337 - Boston, MA 02180-0010 *new CL # 617.905.9619 http://www.mp3.com/fredgiannelli http://www.telepathica.com **New E-addresses* [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 7/30/02 9:50 AM, J. T. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear has anything to do with good music are idiots. too loud is as bad as too quiet, if not worse. the point is to hear the music not be aurally beaten into submission From: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] control 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:34:53 -0400 :( - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [313] control 3 I'm woundering if this is goning to be at city club again? I'm looking at getting a room at the hotel there if it is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
it´s not all about the ears - freequenzys are also there to vibrate in your body - that doesn´t work over the headphone - high frequenzys land on the top of your head lower ones will make your booty swing - etc.. this is what helps people dance - one aspect, why it´s not only about listening music - different music-productions and different often not very exact systems make it difficult for tranced djs to get all 2gether in the best way - so the level goes up and some even like the feeling of overpowered systems - testosterone click :) so it´s always good to have some earplugs with you before f*cking your ears _ my 2.000 euros If this is the point then why not stay at home, plug in a pair of headphones to your hi-fi and crank the volumne up to full - it'll make you just as deaf. I honestly see no point in places the play music at rediculas levels. It becomes too loud to actually hear properly, distorts badly (caused by both the ear and the equipment not being able to take the levels), hurts and can cause people serious hearing problems. Whats the attraction? talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] control 3
dammit we've set Neontsetse off again now... :) robin... it´s not all about the ears - freequenzys are also there to vibrate in your body - that doesn´t work over the headphone - high frequenzys land on the top of your head lower ones will make your booty swing - etc.. this is what helps people dance - one aspect, why it´s not only about listening music - different music-productions and different often not very exact systems make it difficult for tranced djs to get all 2gether in the best way - so the level goes up and some even like the feeling of overpowered systems - testosterone click :) so it´s always good to have some earplugs with you before f*cking your ears _ my 2.000 euros If this is the point then why not stay at home, plug in a pair of headphones to your hi-fi and crank the volumne up to full - it'll make you just as deaf. I honestly see no point in places the play music at rediculas levels. It becomes too loud to actually hear properly, distorts badly (caused by both the ear and the equipment not being able to take the levels), hurts and can cause people serious hearing problems. Whats the attraction? talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:D :D :D robin thanks for making me feel home again - menace 2 society-313 ? well, it´s a dirty job, but ... nah, don´t worry - I´ll keep buzzin in the summermist 4 some time big up and big sorry 2 some very special peepz still waiting 4 things 2 come - they will - and best best best to the rest of the 313-plague-clique - and all you detroit-techno-fans and international music lovers shoutz m pz2002 dammit we've set Neontsetse off again now... :) robin... it´s not all about the ears - freequenzys are also there to vibrate in your body - that doesn´t work over the headphone - high frequenzys land on the top of your head lower ones will make your booty swing - etc.. this is what helps people dance - one aspect, why it´s not only about listening music - different music-productions and different often not very exact systems make it difficult for tranced djs to get all 2gether in the best way - so the level goes up and some even like the feeling of overpowered systems - testosterone click :) so it´s always good to have some earplugs with you before f*cking your ears _ my 2.000 euros If this is the point then why not stay at home, plug in a pair of headphones to your hi-fi and crank the volumne up to full - it'll make you just as deaf. I honestly see no point in places the play music at rediculas levels. It becomes too loud to actually hear properly, distorts badly (caused by both the ear and the equipment not being able to take the levels), hurts and can cause people serious hearing problems. Whats the attraction? talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] robin... -- Dr. Robin Pinning | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, | T: +44 161 275 7028 Manchester, M13 9PL, United Kingdom.| F: +44 161 275 6040 --www.mrccs.man.ac.uk- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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like a wildfire out west opps. I didn't mean do it, officer, I just wanted to get a hotel room. ;-) I guess the r-word is like a spark on tinder to this list. dammit we've set Neontsetse off again now... :) robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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says who? Richie has been throwing these sort of parties for years, and they are always THAT loud. There is a viceral experience that you can only get at certain volumes. And that is what Richie (as artists and promoter) is going for. And it is reflected in the music played during that night. Not every party Rich throws is like that. Which is why he doesn't always use the Jak system. But the experience of the Control parties, like the Jak parties before them, is inherently tied to the physical effect of volume. Wear earplugs (I probably will this time) or stay home. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, J. T. wrote: i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear has anything to do with good music are idiots. too loud is as bad as too quiet, if not worse. the point is to hear the music not be aurally beaten into submission From: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] control 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 09:34:53 -0400 :( - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - Original Message - From: scotto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [313] control 3 I'm woundering if this is goning to be at city club again? I'm looking at getting a room at the hotel there if it is. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'll agree that an overloaded system is a bad thing. And yes, its disgusting how some of these 'professionals' can't work a mixer properly. But again, the Jak system is meant to have some dirt to it. And that is why Rich chooses to use it. It might have gotten a little overboard at Control2 (guest DJs and lots of drinking in the booth). But at the same time, Rich has also used the Blue system from Cinnci (?) and even Burst on occasion when he wanted a cleaner, tighter sound. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, robin pinning wrote: i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear to do with good music are idiots. more to the point, beyond the capabilities of the equipment (levels in the red anywhere in the system, and i am not insinuating here that rich does this). once you do this it's the distortion that will get your ears. i'm amazed at the number of 'known name' djs who i've seen do this. robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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those front room speakers at the works crap out all the time. it sounded fine in the booth. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear to do with good music are idiots. more to the point, beyond the capabilities of the equipment (levels in the red anywhere in the system, and i am not insinuating here that rich does this). oh he does it. anyone at the works last week knows this. rich evidently couldnt hear the PA speakers clipping from his spot in the booth. maybe hes not running the gear in the red, but the PA speakers were sure as hell overwhelmed by his EQing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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huh?? just kidding...I like it loud. I love the feeling I used to get when I would walk into a wharehouse party one one side, and on the other side were the speaker stacks. As you got closer it started to echo less and less...And by the time you were there it was so goddam loud you couldn't talk to your best friend who went with. All I had to do was look at him and think this is going to be great, and he would know what I was thinking, cuz he was thinking the same thing. And the feeling of the sound wave hitting the body and vibrating the air around me...incredible... i'd still rather have sex though ;) jeff! -Original Message- From: Paul Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:12 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] control 3 If this is the point then why not stay at home, plug in a pair of headphones to your hi-fi and crank the volumne up to full - it'll make you just as deaf. I honestly see no point in places the play music at rediculas levels. It becomes too loud to actually hear properly, distorts badly (caused by both the ear and the equipment not being able to take the levels), hurts and can cause people serious hearing problems. Whats the attraction? talk about missing the point. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: thats a good idea... and I'd like to go on record as requesting that the PA not be so loud. it hurt me in the past and everytime I see rich anywhere, he jacks the volume up when he comes on. I hate that. -Joe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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yeah well hes not exactly spinning records for the people in the booth, now is he? I see your point but you're being rather binary about it. -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 those front room speakers at the works crap out all the time. it sounded fine in the booth. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear to do with good music are idiots. more to the point, beyond the capabilities of the equipment (levels in the red anywhere in the system, and i am not insinuating here that rich does this). oh he does it. anyone at the works last week knows this. rich evidently couldnt hear the PA speakers clipping from his spot in the booth. maybe hes not running the gear in the red, but the PA speakers were sure as hell overwhelmed by his EQing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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funny- i don't feel binary =P sure, he's not. but i'm just saying that from the booth you couldn't tell. more to the point is the fact that those speakers crackle all the time. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: yeah well hes not exactly spinning records for the people in the booth, now is he? I see your point but you're being rather binary about it. -Joe - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 those front room speakers at the works crap out all the time. it sounded fine in the booth. On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, :P wrote: - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J. T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [313] control 3 i dont think it's missing the point, i think people who think pushing the volume up so loud that it stretches the capabalities of the ear to do with good music are idiots. more to the point, beyond the capabilities of the equipment (levels in the red anywhere in the system, and i am not insinuating here that rich does this). oh he does it. anyone at the works last week knows this. rich evidently couldnt hear the PA speakers clipping from his spot in the booth. maybe hes not running the gear in the red, but the PA speakers were sure as hell overwhelmed by his EQing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
