Re: How to collapse/expand all panes in Property List (v16)

[Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech]

Hi folks,
It looks like this is a legitimate bug and has been logged by 4D.

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Kirk Brooks  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> In v16 it seems I the ability to collapse all panes in the Property List
> (when editing a form) is removed. Since at least v13 you could control
> click on a pane arrow to collapse/expand all. Now that doesn't work - at
> least on a Mac.
>
> Is this a bug or a feature?
>
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Re: XML or should be rest services

[Charles Miller via 4D_Tech]

I of course mean rest services not test and I know I would need web license or 
rest license

Chuck

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> Hi all for a new client they are asking to implement xml post and get to 
> transfer data to a server. I think rest might be easier can anyone advise. 
> Are there example databases  that illustrate either from summit or tech 
> support. Thanks as I don't have much experience in this
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XML or test services

[Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech]

Hi all for a new client they are asking to implement xml post and get to 
transfer data to a server. I think rest might be easier can anyone advise. Are 
there example databases  that illustrate either from summit or tech support. 
Thanks as I don't have much experience in this
Regards
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Re: y2038 -- is 4D ready?

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

so code to convert date to epoch time like that one just recently discussed
(Re: [4DTidbits Blog] Epoch & Unix Timestamp Conversion)
could potentially have trouble...

> 2017/03/29 0:37、Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
> Just reading an article about the next Y2K - y2038.
> IN this year many systems that use 1970 as a base starting point for
> time will exceed the 32bit integer used to track seconds.




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RE: Warning: Date in C_Object Changes with Time Zone

[Dennis, Neil via 4D_Tech]

> If you pack a date into an object in one time zone... for example execute on 
> server when your server
> is in a different time zone. Then you unpack the date in a local time zone 
> the date could be shifted.

Wow, 4D thought of this and created a way to set it.

SET DATABASE PARAMETER has a selector JSON use local time

http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Language-Reference-15.4/4D-Environment/SET-DATABASE-PARAMETER.301-3274410.en.html

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Warning: Date in C_Object Changes with Time Zone

[Dennis, Neil via 4D_Tech]

If you pack a date into an object in one time zone... for example execute on 
server when your server is in a different time zone. Then you unpack the date 
in a local time zone the date could be shifted.

I ran into this by packing a date on the server in central time  OB SET 
($object;"myDate";!2017-01-01!) then retrieving the date locally in mountain 
time. The date came back !2016-12-31!

I'm thinking this is a bug so I reported it as such.

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retrieve LDAP object's dn

[Tonu Mikk via 4D_Tech]

Hello, the example in 4D documentation about LDAP Login uses
 a commonName
attribute for logging in.  At our institution we need to use
distinguishedName instead.  I have not found a way to retrieve a dn for an
object with 4D.  Does 4D support retrieval of a DN?

In a following .php code there is a ldap_get_entries command that will
retrieve a dn.  Is there something similar in 4D?

>Unable to search ldap server<<");

$returnArray = array();
foreach($search as $readItem) {
$info = ldap_get_entries($connect, $readItem);
var_dump($info);
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Re: SVG Text Width and Height

[truegold via 4D_Tech]

Hi All,

4D v15.2 Mac

Here is what I discovered. The issue I am having appears to be do to incorrect 
results from the following lines of a routine:

$Dom_Ref:=SVG_New 
$tDom_Text:=SVG_New_text 
($Dom_Ref;$text_t;$ptr_W->;$ptr_H->;$fontName;$fontSize;$fontStyle;$fontAlign)
$pic:=SVG_Export_to_picture ($tDom_Text)
SVG_CLEAR ($Dom_Ref)
PICTURE PROPERTIES($pic;$ptr_W->;$ptr_H->)

I am not getting accurate width nor height from this approach.

BUT I am getting very close numbers from:

hmFree_GetStringWidth

TEXT_WidthHeight_Get - Old Miyako code I found in the NUG that I wrapped (see 
code below).

I ran test code and here’s an example of the results I am getting:

$fontName:="Tahoma"
$fontStyle:=Plain
$fontAlign:=Align center
$display_t:="10"

hm_W = hmFree_GetStringWidth
svg_W = SVG_String_WidthHeight_Get
ut_W = TEXT_WidthHeight_Get

Sizehm_Wsvg_W   ut_W
7   8   4   8
8   9   5   9
9   10  5   10
10  11  6   11
11  12  7   13
12  13  7   14
13  14  8   15
14  15  8   16
15  16  9   17
16  17  9   18
17  19  10  19
18  20  10  20
19  21  11  21
20  22  11  22
21  23  12  23
22  24  13  25
23  25  13  26
24  26  14  27
25  27  14  28
26  28  15  29


Notice that “hm_W" and “ut_W" are very close, at most, off by a pixel. I’m 
guessing rounding maybe.

Thought this might help others who are trying to place text at a particular 
point in a chart and are maybe not seeing what they are expecting to see.

John…

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C_POINTER($7;$8)
C_LONGINT($0)

If (Count parameters>7)

$content:=$1
$font_family:=$2
$font_size:=$3
$font_style:=$4  //  normal | italic | oblique | inherit
$font_weight:=$5  //  normal | bold | bolder | lighter | 100 | 200 | 300 | 400 
| 500 | 600 | 700 | 800 | 900 | inherit
$font_decoration:=$6  //  none | underline | overline | line-through | blink | 
inherit

C_LONGINT($width_l;$height_l;$baseline_l)
C_PICTURE($picture_px)

$svg:=DOM Create XML Ref("svg")
$text:=DOM Create XML 
element($svg;"text";"x";0;"y";$font_size;"font-family";$font_family;"font-size";$font_size;"font-weight";$font_weight;"font-style";$font_style;"text-decoration";$font_decoration)
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PICTURE PROPERTIES($picture_px;$width_l;$height_l)

$7->:=$width_l
$8->:=$height_l+2

DOM SET XML ATTRIBUTE($text;"y";"0")
SVG EXPORT TO PICTURE($svg;$picture_px)
PICTURE PROPERTIES($picture_px;$width_l;$height_l)

$baseline_l:=$height_l+2

DOM CLOSE XML($svg)

$0:=$baseline_l

End if 


> Hey Miyako,
> 
> Further info from previous post...
> 
> The more I experiment the more I think the width of the text is not correct.
> 
> If I include these lines:
> 
> SVG_SET_ATTRIBUTES ($text_svgRef;"text-align";"center")
> SVG_SET_ATTRIBUTES ($text_svgRef;"display-align";"center”)
> 
> In a text string of “19˚” the 9 shows up approx. centered.
> 
> If I exclude these two lines then.
> 
> In a text string of “19˚” the 1 shows up approx. right aligned.
> 
> So I am baffled and there’s little 4D example sir using the TextArea and 
> modifying attributes. Of course I am reviewing the SVG spec and trying 
> properties from there. But…
> 
> So there’s something I don’t understand I think.
> 
> Appreciate,
> John...
> 
>> Hi Miyako,
>> 
>> So if I understand how to replace “text” with “TextArea”…
>> 
>> Here’s an existing code fragment with various height/width adjustments
>> 
>> $fontAlign_D:=Align center
>> 
>> $pnt_X:=$ctr_X+(($ctr_X*$radius)*Cos($Angle))
>> $pnt_Y:=$ctr_Y-(($ctr_Y*$radius)*Sin($Angle))
>> 
>> $display_t:=$Degree+”˚”   `  example: 16˚
>> 
>> In this example the X and Y of the point are:
>> 
>> inX_D=577
>> inY_D=276
>> 
>> SVG_String_WidthHeight_Get (display_t; ->$width;
>>  ->$height; 

RE: 4D email client from Dave Batton, where to get the old sample 4DB ?

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Hi Armin,

> I've found this pdf: 
> ftp://ftp.4d.com/aci_product_reference_library/4D_PRODUCT_DOCUMENTATION/PDF_Docs_by_4D_Product_A-Z/4D_Web_2.0_Pack/v11_R2/4D_Email_Client_Beta.pdf

The PDF you linked was not a Tech Note, which is why it cannot be found on 
kb.4d.com.
The PDF you linked was part of the Web 2.0 Pack documentation.

If you purchased the Web 2.0 Pack then you may still have the sample as part of 
your Web 2.0 Pack 'stuff' however as Miyako mentioned "Web 2.0 Pack was 
released more than 10 years ago (v2004)."

The 'Web 2.0 Pack' is no longer available.

Kind Regards,

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Re: 4D email client from Dave Batton, where to get the old sample 4DB ?

[ADeeg via 4D_Tech]

Yes great, thank you very much for your help Tom.

This one looks better, but it seems that this was an early state of the
email client. The pdf doc says, that 4d v11 is needed and the 4d plugins
inside the beta are version 2004. 
But is is a good starter.

the pdf is from 2008 and the demo from 3/2006, it seems that 4d tech has a
newer version. 
Tim Penner have you access to the newer version ? 

Best Regards Armin


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>>Do you have this newer version too ?
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> I ran across 3.0b5. It was on an 8 inch floppy. :-7
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Re: y2038 -- is 4D ready?

[Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech]

I changed my system date to 1/1/2039 and started testing dates.  An android 
walked into my office and told me to cut it out.

Keith - CDI

> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
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> Just reading an article about the next Y2K - y2038.
> IN this year many systems that use 1970 as a base starting point for 
> time will exceed the 32bit integer used to track seconds.
> 
> Is 4D, natively, y2038 safe?
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RE: y2038 -- is 4D ready?

[Dennis, Neil via 4D_Tech]

> Is 4D, natively, y2038 safe?

Yes, 4D dates are good valid from 1/1/100 to 12/31/32,767
http://doc.4d.com/4Dv15/4D/15.4/Data-Types.300-3273704.en.html


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Re: HTML Editor in 4D

[Patrick Emanuel via 4D_Tech]

Hi,

I had the same need few times ago and change TinyMCE for jhtmlarea.
jhtmlarea can be manage exactly like TinyMCE except than I found that is
easier to work with it.

I have not the 4D database here, but i'm pretty sure that I haven't activate
the webkit option.

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Re: HTML Editor in 4D

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> I have a requirement to provide HTML data for web site product descriptions, 
> authored within a 4D database.

how about this



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y2038 -- is 4D ready?

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

Just reading an article about the next Y2K - y2038.
IN this year many systems that use 1970 as a base starting point for 
time will exceed the 32bit integer used to track seconds.

Is 4D, natively, y2038 safe?

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How to digitally sign an XML document

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech]

The subject says it. How do I do this with 4D? 

I found a description how to do it using the .NET Framework: 
https://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/ms229745(v=vs.110).aspx
The following question is the question for verifying of signed xml documents. 
There exists a .NET reference too: 
https://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/ms229950(v=vs.110).aspx
There using some .NET classes, of course there aren't available in 4D. But is 
there an easy way to achieve the same with 4D?

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Re: 4D email client from Dave Batton, where to get the old sample 4DB ?

[Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech]

Armin wrote:

>Do you have this newer version too ?

I ran across 3.0b5. It was on an 8 inch floppy. :-7

It's at .

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Re: HTML Editor in 4D

[Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech]

OK so within an hour of posting this and after a few dead end internet searches 
I found this:

https://4dtoday.eu/blog/2015/02/20/tinymce-html-editor-for-4d/ 


Which is exactly what I was trying to do :-)

So why did I not think this was possible to do?  The v15 Docs still say:

"You can call 4D methods from the JavaScript code executed in a Web area and 
get values in return.
Important: This feature is only available if the Web area uses the integrated 
Web Kit as the rendering engine."

In WA EXECUTE JAVASCRIP FUNCTION the docs also state:
"Important: Handling complex type results (objects, dates, etc.) is only 
possible if the Web area uses the embedded Web rendering engine."

Are these the same or contradictory statements?

In any case Rolf is doing exactly this with the Web Kit option off and it works 
like a charm.

Thank you Rolf Bachmann, I owe you at least a drink at the next 4D conference.

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Re: HTML Editor in 4D

[Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech]

In my project I created some html templates which are opened in the TinyMCE 
editor. The 'average' users can edit the content and then send the mail.

A few moons ago I tried to make the switch to 4D Write Pro, but got stuck on 
the first part: the html import. I could update my templates to 4D Write 
objects, but then I got stuck in another requirement: tables...

Koen


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<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:

> for instance, in sone cases, using a regular text input for editing the HTML 
> and a web area for preview might turn out to be better than a single object.




Compass bvba
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Re: HTML Editor in 4D

[Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech]

Hi Dougie,

Have a look at the HTML Email Component by Thomas Maul: 
http://kb.4d.com/assetid=75229

It is using TinyMCE. The trick to get the html out of the editor is by using a 
html starting page to open the TinyMCE in a Web Area. This page contains a 
javascript to set and get the content.

4D Write Pro should also be a good starting point. But I'm missing the import 
of html to be an easy replacement of TinyMCE.

Kind regards,
Koen

Op 28-mrt.-2017, om 12:43 heeft Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:

> I have a requirement to provide HTML data for web site product descriptions, 
> authored within a 4D database.




Compass bvba
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Re: 4D email client from Dave Batton, where to get the old sample 4DB ?

[ADeeg via 4D_Tech]

Tom,

thanks for your reply. Your link points to the first email client from Dave
Batton, in my linked pdf (found on the 4d server) there are pictures and
descriptions from an enhanced version for 4d v11.

Do you have this newer version too ?

Regards Armin


Tom Dillon wrote
> Armin,
> 
> I think this might be what you're looking for, if it's the email code. I'm
> not sure if it works or if it contains any webarea stuff, but I pulled
> some email code from it awhile back.
> 
> http://datacraft-inc.com/Email.zip





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HTML Editor in 4D

[Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech]

I have a requirement to provide HTML data for web site product descriptions, 
authored within a 4D database.

What is the best way to achieve this using v15.
The styled text area is not powerful enough even to do bullet points.
4D Write is an expensive option for just this purpose and I am not even sure if 
4D Write for v15 is production safe?
4D users and groups are not implemented in this system so everyone would need a 
Write license despite only one person needing it.
I have toyed with the idea of using a web area with TinyMCE but
I am not sure how I would get the edited content back
It does not work when the Use integrated Web Kit option is clicked (what does?) 
cutting options for interactivity down.
Anybody got any experience doing this or something similar?

Regards,  Dougie


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