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hello I have it booting now. I did a disk/format using the 9load from the cdboot image, and the 9pcf kernel from the iso. Now i'm getting messages about caught missed ide interrupts. . .and this slows down disk operations a lot, i guess first fossil dump to venti will take ages. now i'm stuck at version...time line. . . .i'll try if enabling dma could solve anything, but not sure when i will be able to access the console. . . can i enable dma from the plan9.ini? thanks. gabi El 10/04/2010, a las 21:38, erik quanstrom escribió: This is the 9load panic (manually transcribed): PBS2. . . Plan 9 From Bell Labs no vga; serial console only cpu0: 2675MHz i7 loop 142773 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=40 di=100 ebx= esi=0 found 11 e820 entries flags=10a07 trap=e ecode=2 pc=0x800377ff ax 8002c391 bx cx dx 80047fac si 0001 di 8004ad88 bp 80061c20 cs 0010 ds 008 es 0008 fd 0008 gs 0008 cr0 80011 cr2 8942443 cr3 c000 panic: exception/interrupt 14 press almost any key. . . I installed again to see if i missed some odd behaviour the first time, but seems there are no noticeable error messages. Also the install speed is fine, there is no huge load of interrupts when installing and no missed interrupt messages. The interrupt 14 was associated with sdC and sdD. is this a freshly download cd? some changes were made apr 3 that should fix this problem. this line is the tipoff: no vga; serial console only - erik
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hello Seems I fell again in the bios ahci set up trap. Checking the BIOS options seems it was in Enhaced Ide mode instead of Enhaced AHCI mode. Now the iso works perfectly. For those of you looking for a modern PC to run plan9, this is what i have: * asus P6T SE * Core i7 (4 core works) * 4GB DDR3 RAM * ati hd5750 (works in vesa 1280x960x8) * hard disk WD caviar 300 GB * realtek GB network (works) 9atom from this weekend boots and install with no problems setting up AHCI mode first. slds. gabi El 11/04/2010, a las 14:37, Gabriel Diaz Lopez de la Llave escribió: hello I have it booting now. I did a disk/format using the 9load from the cdboot image, and the 9pcf kernel from the iso. Now i'm getting messages about caught missed ide interrupts. . .and this slows down disk operations a lot, i guess first fossil dump to venti will take ages. now i'm stuck at version...time line. . . .i'll try if enabling dma could solve anything, but not sure when i will be able to access the console. . . can i enable dma from the plan9.ini? thanks. gabi El 10/04/2010, a las 21:38, erik quanstrom escribió: This is the 9load panic (manually transcribed): PBS2. . . Plan 9 From Bell Labs no vga; serial console only cpu0: 2675MHz i7 loop 142773 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=40 di=100 ebx= esi=0 found 11 e820 entries flags=10a07 trap=e ecode=2 pc=0x800377ff ax 8002c391 bx cx dx 80047fac si 0001 di 8004ad88 bp 80061c20 cs 0010 ds 008 es 0008 fd 0008 gs 0008 cr0 80011 cr2 8942443 cr3 c000 panic: exception/interrupt 14 press almost any key. . . I installed again to see if i missed some odd behaviour the first time, but seems there are no noticeable error messages. Also the install speed is fine, there is no huge load of interrupts when installing and no missed interrupt messages. The interrupt 14 was associated with sdC and sdD. is this a freshly download cd? some changes were made apr 3 that should fix this problem. this line is the tipoff: no vga; serial console only - erik
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I have it booting now. I did a disk/format using the 9load from the cdboot image, and the 9pcf kernel from the iso. Now i'm getting messages about caught missed ide interrupts. . . and this slows down disk operations a lot, i guess first fossil dump to venti will take ages. now i'm stuck at version...time line. . . .i'll try if enabling dma could solve anything, but not sure when i will be able to access the console. . . can i enable dma from the plan9.ini? sorry about the missed ide interrupts botch. it seemed better than not booting at all. you can set *sdXXdma=on in your plan9.ini. but i don't think that's the real problem. i'd guess that your southbridge isn't in the list of routable southbridges and needs to be added. but in addition, i would do the following 1. remove the *nomp=1 line from plan9.ini 2. switch to ahci mode. (assuming this is indeed a sata drive that is connected to the ich sata ports and not some marvell or sis addon chip.) 3. send your pci output offline. - erik
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9atom from this weekend boots and install with no problems setting up AHCI mode first. please send your pci output anyway. ide should work. even if *nomp=1 so to do that we'll need to do the pcirouting stuff, and for that we need a southbridge pci vid/did. - erik
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Hello erik, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 4:26:09 AM, you wrote: On Fri Apr 9 16:21:35 EDT 2010, e...@sandien.com wrote: Actually I would like to see this too. Maybe if you could post the specs to the list it would generally be helpful. here's what i've recently tested with 9atom: 1: (atom 330) supermicro x7sla-h motherboard supermicro 502l-200b chassis 2gb (2x1gb) memory and 2: (pineview d510, my terminal) supermicro x7spa-h motherboard same chassis 4gb (2x2gb sodimm) i recently tested a supermicro x8sil-f motherboard xeon x3440 2.53ghz processor 4gb (2x2) memory tested outside a chassis. this is really a fast setup. i was getting 3sec kernel builds (even compiling the myricom driver). i'm sure my slow fs was holding things back. cavets: 1. use 2gb dimms. there are strange requirements for multiple dimms per channel. 2. use a recent 9atom, otherwise the board can't find any pci devices. - erik I have an ASUS P6T SE with a Core i7 and 4gb of ram and it can boot with 9atom.iso and install. But something is happening that prevent it to boot after the install (i got a register dump. may be something wrong happened when doing the format of 9fat :?). Network also works. And Vesa works at 1280x900x8 with an ati hd 5750. Monitor is samsung p2250. I'll report if i get it booting, but i think it should boot if was able to install and the live cd works, no? -- Best regards, Gabrielmailto:gd...@rejaa.com
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I have an ASUS P6T SE with a Core i7 and 4gb of ram and it can boot with 9atom.iso and install. But something is happening that prevent it to boot after the install (i got a register dump. may be something wrong happened when doing the format of 9fat :?). Network also works. And Vesa works at 1280x900x8 with an ati hd 5750. Monitor is samsung p2250. I'll report if i get it booting, but i think it should boot if was able to install and the live cd works, no? yes, that does sound like some sort of screw up. could you send - pci/lspci output, - a screenshot of the register dump, and - a sha1sum of the kernel (so i know which kernel you've got). - erik
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Hello erik, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 2:54:01 PM, you wrote: I have an ASUS P6T SE with a Core i7 and 4gb of ram and it can boot with 9atom.iso and install. But something is happening that prevent it to boot after the install (i got a register dump. may be something wrong happened when doing the format of 9fat :?). Network also works. And Vesa works at 1280x900x8 with an ati hd 5750. Monitor is samsung p2250. I'll report if i get it booting, but i think it should boot if was able to install and the live cd works, no? yes, that does sound like some sort of screw up. could you send - pci/lspci output, - a screenshot of the register dump, and - a sha1sum of the kernel (so i know which kernel you've got). - erik This is the 9load panic (manually transcribed): PBS2. . . Plan 9 From Bell Labs no vga; serial console only cpu0: 2675MHz i7 loop 142773 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=40 di=100 ebx= esi=0 found 11 e820 entries flags=10a07 trap=e ecode=2 pc=0x800377ff ax 8002c391 bx cx dx 80047fac si 0001 di 8004ad88 bp 80061c20 cs 0010 ds 008 es 0008 fd 0008 gs 0008 cr0 80011 cr2 8942443 cr3 c000 panic: exception/interrupt 14 press almost any key. . . I installed again to see if i missed some odd behaviour the first time, but seems there are no noticeable error messages. Also the install speed is fine, there is no huge load of interrupts when installing and no missed interrupt messages. The interrupt 14 was associated with sdC and sdD. sdC0 is the sata dvd drive sdD0 is the sata hard disk sdE0 is the ide dvd drive from which i boot plan9, this is attached to some jmicron thing which claims to be ide to sata bridge When booting using the pccd.gz kernel, i get some missed irq messages, also a disk/format of the 9fat partition takes ages, and when completed, the 9fat partition is not readable. sha1 hash of 9pcflop.gz is D5F5E6F48DAA0D0FC604A1A9B27BD8B240673309 9pccd.gz is 85FEE0ADC5FE00BEEF8F448D5F6AE416B1844A9D I'll install a linux so i can send a lspci. slds. -- Best regards, Gabrielmailto:gd...@rejaa.com
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This is the 9load panic (manually transcribed): PBS2. . . Plan 9 From Bell Labs no vga; serial console only cpu0: 2675MHz i7 loop 142773 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=40 di=100 ebx= esi=0 found 11 e820 entries flags=10a07 trap=e ecode=2 pc=0x800377ff ax 8002c391 bx cx dx 80047fac si 0001 di 8004ad88 bp 80061c20 cs 0010 ds 008 es 0008 fd 0008 gs 0008 cr0 80011 cr2 8942443 cr3 c000 panic: exception/interrupt 14 press almost any key. . . I installed again to see if i missed some odd behaviour the first time, but seems there are no noticeable error messages. Also the install speed is fine, there is no huge load of interrupts when installing and no missed interrupt messages. The interrupt 14 was associated with sdC and sdD. is this a freshly download cd? some changes were made apr 3 that should fix this problem. this line is the tipoff: no vga; serial console only - erik
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I'm going to be buying something soon. I'd like to follow your lead. Thanks, Tom West On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Steve Simon wrote: I recently built a machine using a dualcore atom card from supermicro its quick, draws very little power and is rock solid. email me for the details if you like. -Steve (Thanks to erik for 9atom bits).
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Actually I would like to see this too. Maybe if you could post the specs to the list it would generally be helpful. I'm going to be buying something soon. I'd like to follow your lead. I recently built a machine using a dualcore atom card from supermicro its quick, draws very little power and is rock solid. email me for the details if you like.
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erik quanstrom wrote: P.S.: Though the interface is really brilliant, it does not work out well for a lefty with a german keyboard layout :-/ you can change the layout: kbmap(1), kbin(3), kbmap(3). - erik Ok, i know kbmap :) This 'leftys are poor people' feeling comes from MS-Windows and their GUI-philosophy-follower which define Ctrl+V, Ctrl+X and Ctrl+C as shortcuts. These are on the left side of the keyboard, so i have to move the left hand between keyboard and mouse frustratingly often. I apologize for blaming rio et al for something that they never have done... Would right/left-handed dvorak be a good choice to keep one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard? Best Regards, Jorge-León
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maht wrote: Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. Sorry to hear you think like that. I've been using Plan9 for about 10 years as my day to day work environment for non-Plan9 based coding, I can't remember anything that hasn't worked aside from kit without drivers. Would you be willing to elaborate about your working setups as far as non-Plan9 based coding is concerned. I would also be happy to hear about how non-coding activities are typically handled by using a Plan9 system. The recent survey of how Plan9 inventors use Plan9 today (it seems mostly they don't) has cast some shadow of doubt on me that day to day computer work is ideally done on a Plan9 terminal. Regards, Jorge-León
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I would also be happy to hear about how non-coding activities are typically handled by using a Plan9 system. what non-coding activities? ☺ - erik
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 13:57, Georg Lehner jorge-pl...@magma.com.ni wrote: Would right/left-handed dvorak be a good choice to keep one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard? it works alright for web browsing or if you're just typing english (and probably german as well), but you really have to stretch for non-alphabetic keys so it's less suitable for programming or anything but simple rc commands. i mapped many of the special keys to the numpad, but that might not work so well for a lefty
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On 29/03/2010 21:07, Georg Lehner wrote: maht wrote: Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. Sorry to hear you think like that. I've been using Plan9 for about 10 years as my day to day work environment for non-Plan9 based coding, I can't remember anything that hasn't worked aside from kit without drivers. Would you be willing to elaborate about your working setups as far as non-Plan9 based coding is concerned. I edit text, sometimes I run programs over it and it is changed, I write these programs. The environment of Plan9 is very much suited to this activity. I use it to control the activities of the Windows / Linux / *BSD / OSX machines in my empire. I connect them together with 9p tunnelled over ssh, Plan9 Plan9, SMB, bit of ftp, AoE. I jump around through firewalls and other tunnels all for the precious 9p, the Queen of Kings. I sit at a non Plan9 terminal and wonder how the savages manage.
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On Monday 29 March 2010 13:07:23 Georg Lehner wrote: The recent survey of how Plan9 inventors use Plan9 today (it seems mostly they don't) has cast some shadow of doubt on me that day to day computer work is ideally done on a Plan9 terminal. Day to day computer work will not generally be done on a Plan9 terminal until Glenda finally overcomes her profoundly crippling case of automysophobia. Unfortunately however, it appears that she is surrounded by folks who are single-mindedly determined to keep her inside a sterile plastic bubble - according to these people, linux and gnu are, apparently, the boogey men that will certainly 'get her' should she ever leave the confines of the artificial cocoon that's been built up around her. 9fans: keep on worrying over 'contamination' from the real world, in the mean time, Plan 9 is a precious little snowflake that is neigh useless outside of an extraordinarily narrow variety of use cases: On Monday 29 March 2010 13:16:59 erik quanstrom wrote: I would also be happy to hear about how non-coding activities are typically handled by using a Plan9 system. what non-coding activities? ☺ Plan9: an old-school IDE and a file server wrapped into one. The mind reels. Sometimes, less is _not_ more.
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Corey co...@bitworthy.net wrote: Plan9: an old-school IDE and a file server wrapped into one. The mind reels. Sometimes, less is _not_ more. OK, that's it, we're not going to let you use it any more. :-) ron
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Day to day computer work will not generally be done on a Plan9 terminal until Glenda finally overcomes her profoundly crippling case of automysophobia. Unfortunately however, it appears that she is surrounded by folks who are single-mindedly determined to keep her inside a sterile plastic bubble - according to these people, linux and gnu are, apparently, the boogey men that will certainly 'get her' should she ever leave the confines of the artificial cocoon that's been built up around her. unless you're going to do something about this, you're just trolling. imho, it just doesn't make sense to add this kind of stuff to plan 9. it dimishes something very valuable in plan 9 (simplicity) and we already know where to get gnu stuff. On Monday 29 March 2010 13:16:59 erik quanstrom wrote: I would also be happy to hear about how non-coding activities are typically handled by using a Plan9 system. what non-coding activities? ☺ Plan9: an old-school IDE and a file server wrapped into one. The mind reels. Sometimes, less is _not_ more. i find plan 9 to be a very effective environment. i use it all day, every day. if you don't, the logical choices are to (a) do something about it or (b) do something else. - erik
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On Mar 29, 2010, at 4:16 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: I would also be happy to hear about how non-coding activities are typically handled by using a Plan9 system. what non-coding activities? ☺ Surely you have played mahjongg at least once! - erik
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David Leimbach wrote: I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. That's really great. I never got beyond 2 :-) [..] file/auth/cpu server at home: DFI-ACP Board: G5C100-N, Intel 945GM ICH7M installable only eriks 9atom.iso file/auth/cpu server at work: some inherited development workstation, spec currently not available. When/if i get Linux and Windows to work seemlessly with the fileserver i will possibly have a permanently running drawterm. Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. Regards, Jorge-León P.S.: Though the interface is really brilliant, it does not work out well for a lefty with a german keyboard layout :-/
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Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. Sorry to hear you think like that. I've been using Plan9 for about 10 years as my day to day work environment for non-Plan9 based coding, I can't remember anything that hasn't worked aside from kit without drivers. A shame that the tool doesn't suit your needs but blaming the tool is a bit much.
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Until today i'm just a stubborn believer in Plan9. Real world experience with this system is, that nothing else works (out of the box) and nobody else uses it, besides people working with and for Plan9 just for the sake of it. speaking only for myself: http://www.coraid.com. thousands of installed systems. P.S.: Though the interface is really brilliant, it does not work out well for a lefty with a german keyboard layout :-/ you can change the layout: kbmap(1), kbin(3), kbmap(3). - erik
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if the ethernet address is broken you can try to see if the nic is still usable by setting promiscuous mode on... I had the a problem years ago with andrey's sis900 driver (the one in the distribution didn't work with my nic), when I changed from a terminal to a 9pcf kernel it stopped working! somehow it wasn't getting the eaddr right, after some debugging I noticed that the distribution driver worked, but only when snoopy was running... I'm a network ignorant and I was even more ignorant then, so I didn't notice that snoopy reported 0xFFF or something for address and it worked because snoopy turns promiscuous mode on. so I checked the lunixes driver and found out how to write the ether address correctly to the device and got it working, but ironically a day later geoff pushed his version of the driver for kenfs which was a merge of andrey's and charles' driver... -- Federico G. Benavento
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On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:35:39PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: could you define doesn't work? any errors? - erik When I boot plan 9, the message `probing ether' is printed and then `auto neg something' is printed a second or two after that. I can find out what the actual message is later. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpzqFFNNLxhk.pgp Description: PGP signature
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When I boot plan 9, the message `probing ether' is printed and then `auto neg something' is printed a second or two after that. I can find out what the actual message is later. the output of /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/sosether would be useful. - erik
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When I boot plan 9, the message `probing ether' is printed and then `auto neg something' is printed a second or two after that. I can find out what the actual message is later. If the message is printed by the kernel rather than 9load you can find it by typing: cat /dev/kmesg -Steve
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 09:25:19AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: the output of /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/sosether would be useful. - erik pci 0.4.0: net 02.00.00 1039/0900 4 0:1801 256 1:e4003000 4096 interfaces kmesg: Plan 9 E820: 0009f400 memory E820: 0009f400 000a reserved E820: 000dc000 0010 reserved E820: 0010 0ddf memory E820: 0ddf 0ddff000 acpi reclaim E820: 0ddff000 0de0 acpi nvs E820: 0de0 0e00 reserved E820: 0e00 1000 reserved E820: fec0 fec1 reserved E820: fee0 fee01000 reserved E820: fff8 1 reserved 126 holes free 00019000 0009f000 548864 0040f000 05ae6000 91058176 91607040 bytes free cpu0: 2191MHz GenuineIntel PentiumIV/Xeon (cpuid: AX 0x0F29 DX 0xBFEBFBFF) ELCR: 06B8 #y0: 2 slot Intel 82365SL: port 0x3E0 irq 5 ns83815: auto neg timed out #u/usb/ep1.0: ohci: port 0xE000 irq 9 #u/usb/ep2.0: ohci: port 0xE0001000 irq 10 #u/usb/ep3.0: ehci: port 0xE0002000 irq 3 222M memory: 91M kernel data, 131M user, 502M swap usbd...usb/disk... root is from (tcp, local)[local!#S/sdC0/fossil]: user[none]: jake time... fossil(#S/sdC0/fossil)...version...time... init: starting /bin/rc The 'ns83815: autneg timed out' was the message being printed. I've also noticed that the man page for plan9.ini(8), it says On the SiS controllers, the Ethernet address is not detected properly; specify it with an ea= attribute. Is ea= supposed to be set to the actual ip address (the man page says physical network adress)? If so that's probably my problem. -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgpacvEnCTsYf.pgp Description: PGP signature
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I've also noticed that the man page for plan9.ini(8), it says On the SiS controllers, the Ethernet address is not detected properly; specify it with an ea= attribute. Is ea= supposed to be set to the actual ip address (the man page says physical network adress)? If so that's probably my problem. ea is supposed to be an ethernet address. ethernet addresses have the format ea=112233445566 where 1-6 are *lowercase* hex digits. the first byte 0x80 should be 0. - erik
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:43:36AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: I've also noticed that the man page for plan9.ini(8), it says On the SiS controllers, the Ethernet address is not detected properly; specify it with an ea= attribute. Is ea= supposed to be set to the actual ip address (the man page says physical network adress)? If so that's probably my problem. ea is supposed to be an ethernet address. ethernet addresses have the format ea=112233445566 where 1-6 are *lowercase* hex digits. the first byte 0x80 should be 0. - erik Sorry for my ignorance, but how would I find out the ethernet address(es)? -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgp1KT3XM9U2Q.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Is ea= supposed to be set to the actual ip address (the man page says physical network adress)? If so that's probably my problem. ea is supposed to be an ethernet address. ethernet addresses have the format ea=112233445566 where 1-6 are *lowercase* hex digits. the first byte 0x80 should be 0. - erik Sorry for my ignorance, but how would I find out the ethernet address(es)? the hardware is supposed to know it. if it doesn't the hardware is having trouble talking to its eeprom/flash. in this case, you can get by by making one up. though officially, they're allocated in blocks, c.f. etheroui(1), wwnoui(1) — contrib quanstro/oui. the database is in /lib/oui. - erik
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Sorry for my ignorance, but how would I find out the ethernet address(es)? A long shot, somtimes its printed on the card (PCI or PCMCIA), but othertimes it is not. The important fact is that you must not use the same address as any other device on the same physical network. -Steve
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Someone should put this whole thread on the wiki
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I just wanted to take a moment to thank Iru and Erik for their help with getting Plan 9 installed natively on my 4 machines. While I'm still having some difficulties with SATA/IDE issues, and non-supported ethernet devices, at least now I can test native support as well as hosted inferno, plan9port, and 9xv. Thanks! EBo --
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I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. That's really great. I never got beyond 2 :-) Dave On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:59 AM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: I just wanted to take a moment to thank Iru and Erik for their help with getting Plan 9 installed natively on my 4 machines. While I'm still having some difficulties with SATA/IDE issues, and non-supported ethernet devices, at least now I can test native support as well as hosted inferno, plan9port, and 9xv. Thanks! EBo --
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I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. Six here. Only three actually switched on at this moment.
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About 4 * 40 here (students) plus our terminals and servers (4, 5 people, depends). On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. Six here. Only three actually switched on at this moment.
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64 at one time. 0 now.
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On Wed Mar 24 11:24:04 EDT 2010, n...@lsub.org wrote: About 4 * 40 here (students) plus our terminals and servers (4, 5 people, depends). On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: I'm glad there's another person out there with 4 machines running plan 9. Six here. Only three actually switched on at this moment. i have 3 cpu servers running (two for testing), 1 terminal, 1 ken fs, and 1 coraid storage unit. coraid runs 8 cpu servers in production, 3 ken fs file servers (one backup) and 3 coraid storage units. coraid also runs a large number of testing boxes. about 20 people run a terminal, 9vx or drawterm. - erik
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Only two, one home and one work, Drawterm is usually active on another two or three Mac/PCs. -Steve
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hello from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? gabi El 24/03/2010, a las 17:05, Steve Simon escribió: Only two, one home and one work, Drawterm is usually active on another two or three Mac/PCs. -Steve
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I recently built a machine using a dualcore atom card from supermicro its quick, draws very little power and is rock solid. email me for the details if you like. -Steve (Thanks to erik for 9atom bits).
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from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? While I have not bought one yet (money's a little tight at the moment), take a look at http://open-pc.com/. At least since everything is open, even if the device drivers are not available there is still a chance grumble, grumble... #...@#!$! BROADCOM $...@*!@(*$
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I have three native machines: Supermicro 5015A-H w/500GB IDE: fossil/venti/auth/dhcpd/tftpd Supermicro 5015A-H (diskless): CPU server Via EPIA-EK (1GHz C3 Eden-N processor) (diskless): terminal When I move back onto the boat I will be adding another CPU server with a whack of serial ports that will talk to all the comm and nav gear. For this I'm leaning towards a PC/104+ system; they're small, very low power, and have oodles of I/O expansion capability (like ADCs that can hook up to the engine sensors for things like water/oil pressure and temperature, tank levels, etc.). --lyndon
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On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:11 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? While I have not bought one yet (money's a little tight at the moment), take a look at http://open-pc.com/. At least since everything is open, even if the device drivers are not available there is still a chance grumble, grumble... #...@#!$! BROADCOM $...@*!@(*$ I think for 360 Euro, I could build a better, Plan 9-compatible machine and *not* donate money to the KDE project while I'm at it. Should there be something on the wiki/elsewhere where people can post the specs of computers they are using and what hardware works/doesn't work? The supported hardware list tends to be a bit vague; I'd like something where I could look at a list of components for an entire Plan 9 compatible machine, or see if anybody else is still using component X. John
Re: [9fans] native install
Should there be something on the wiki/elsewhere where people can post the specs of computers they are using and what hardware works/doesn't work? The supported hardware list tends to be a bit vague; I'd like something where I could look at a list of components for an entire Plan 9 compatible machine, or see if anybody else is still using component X. i believe a few complete machines *have* been posted. i know i mentioned two. - erik
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I have the following Plan 9 File servers at home, with the following motherboards : - one Supermicro X7SLA-H, with 3 TB of storage, my new main fileserver, - two Intel S815EBM1, one is running 9grid.fr, other is used for testing. I have also many CPU servers and terminals. Most are old IBM machines (xSeries, ThinkCentre, ThinkPad). Of course, I have also a SheevaPlug and few iPAQ running Plan 9. At work, I am currently using four FabiaTech FX5624 as File or CPU server. They are running Plan 9 really fine. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] native install
at 9netics and rangboom (different locations), there are 4 cpus, 2 kenfs, multiple terms (vmware) and drawterm. for a project at a client's site, there are: 7+ cpus (sheevaplug, laptops), a cpu+auth+fossil/venti server and term (vmware) and drawterm.
Re: [9fans] native install
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 04:19:59PM -0400, John Floren wrote: I think for 360 Euro, I could build a better, Plan 9-compatible machine and *not* donate money to the KDE project while I'm at it. Should there be something on the wiki/elsewhere where people can post the specs of computers they are using and what hardware works/doesn't work? The supported hardware list tends to be a bit vague; I'd like something where I could look at a list of components for an entire Plan 9 compatible machine, or see if anybody else is still using component X. John My Dell Inspiron 1000 mostly works. I haven't tested the PC Card slot. Audio most likely doesn't work, and the sis900 driver doesn't work and I haven't tested the other sis900 driver from here[1]. Everything else is fine. [1]http://mirtchovski.com/lanlp9/sis900/index.html -- I am a man who does not exist for others. pgp1rHhb9UGG1.pgp Description: PGP signature
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My Dell Inspiron 1000 mostly works. I haven't tested the PC Card slot. Audio most likely doesn't work, and the sis900 driver doesn't work and I haven't tested the other sis900 driver from here[1]. Everything else is fine. could you define doesn't work? any errors? - erik
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I'd like something where I could look at a list of components for an entire Plan 9 compatible machine, or see if anybody else is still using component X. John If it's been thrown in the trash, it should work great! I mean that as a slur against the upgrade cycle rather than Plan9, I have a pile of PIIIs that run Plan9 great. I've had problems with Qemu recently, I went back to v. 0.8 That said, I've used Proxmox with great success on modern VT enabled chips http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Main_Page It lets you run some OSes in VT mode alongside Qemu instances. The virtual networking is brill too, each VM gets it's own IP like it was a machine on the LAN, no messing about with port redirection.
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1 MSI G31TM-P21 /Q8200/500GB cpu/everything server (the full specs are somewhere in the list) + a constant drawterm running on win laptop -- Federico G. Benavento
[9fans] Native Install P3 800 mhz INTEL
Hello all, Firstly I would like to thank all of those on this list that have helped me in #plan9. Secondly I'm excited to work on getting plan9 work on my XO. Finally, I'm trying to get plan9 (latest plan9.iso.bz2 from kix.in) to work on my ancient p3 800mhz box. I am currently stuck at boot -- but it seems that there *is* progress! 1) Boots CD and shows this: PBS1... Plan9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0E40 bios0: drive 0x80: 80026361856 bytes, type 3 biosinit: sorry, only one bios drive; can't read last one dev A0 port 1F0 config 0C5A capabilities 2F00 mwdma 0007 udma 203F dev A0 port 170 config 85C0 capabilities 0F00 mwdma 0407 cpu0: 796MHz PentiumIII/Xeon loop 53436 apm ax=f000 cx=f000 dx=40 di=100 ebx=ef50 esi= Boot devices : fd0 boot from: so from here I was recommended to try things like : sdC0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz (nothing happens -- just returns to boot from:) sdC1!cdboot!9pcflop.gz (nothing happens -- just returns to boot from:) sdD0!cdboot!9pcflop.gz ** unknown partition sdD0!cdboot ** cdD1!cdboot!9pcflop.gz (nothing happens -- just returns to boot from:) so obviously in the 3rd one with sdD0 something else is happening. The system says only fd0 is there (which i assume is a floppy drive -- the unit does have one) any recommendations? Thanks a lot and respectfully, =jt -- james francis toy iv
