Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
Guido wrote: the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Yes, I think it can be safely left out. It's mostly confusing! AbcMus actually implements it, but I can change that, since I don't think anybody uses it. BTW, I've been very silent in the abc 2.0 discussions lately, because I'm on vacation, but I'll be back... Henrik Norbeck, Stockholm, Sweden [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norbeck.nu/ My home page http://www.norbeck.nu/abcmus/ AbcMus player program http://www.norbeck.nu/abc/ 1900 ABC tunes http://www.norbeck.nu/blackthorn Irish trad music band http://www.rfod.se/folklink/ Links to Swedish trad music To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Guido Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hello, as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Suggestions are highly appreciated. Later, Guido =8-) You're going to have to remind us what u: does, I can find no mention of it... Bernard Hill Braeburn Software Author of Music Publisher system Music Software written by musicians for musicians http://www.braeburn.co.uk Selkirk, Scotland To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Hello, as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Suggestions are highly appreciated. Later, Guido =8-) You're going to have to remind us what u: does, I can find no mention of it... from the 1.7.6 draft: $ As a short cut to writing accents or other symbols which avoids the !symbol! $ syntax (see Accent above), the letters H-Z and h-w and the symbol ~ can be $ assigned with the U: and u: fields (the U: defines how the symbols are $ printed and the u: defines how they are played). Later, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Strada Le Grazie 15, 37134 Verona (Italy) Tel. +39 045 8027990; Fax +39 045 8027928 --- Timeas hominem unius libri To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guido Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Funny you should ask, because I thought that when I read it in the spec - personally I don't think I've ever seen it in a single file that's come my way. Again, purely personally, I'm sure I'd never ever notice its absence if you did leave it out, but perhaps others may disagree ... -- Steve Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lesession.co.uk - abc music notation tutorial, the uk.music.folk newsgroup FAQ, and other goodies To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
Guido Gonzato asks: | as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal | for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen | the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether | leaving it out. It turns out I can ask my Tune Finder about this, because it keeps a list of the header lines used in each tune. It actually found one, and it was in my own collection! But this isn't any sort of personal claim, because it's in: http://trillian.mit.edu//~jc/music/abc/mirror/abcusers/MLargubbensBrudpolska_1.abc As you can see, this directory is for tunes extracted from this mailing list. The tune is a polska from Henrik. The funny thing is that he uses both U: and u: to define the U symbol, which is used exactly once. So the definitions take up more characters than they save. Not that it matters. This is clearly an example of the uses of U: and u: so who cares if it saves any space or typing? Among the 150,000 or so tunes that the Tune Finder knows of, this is the only example of u: that was found. (There are actually three matches, but they're all exactly the same tune.) If anyone else has used it in your online tunes, my Tune Finder doesn't know about your collection. (So send me the URL.) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Hello, as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Suggestions are highly appreciated. Later, Guido =8-) You're going to have to remind us what u: does, I can find no mention of it... from the 1.7.6 draft: $ As a short cut to writing accents or other symbols which avoids the !symbol! $ syntax (see Accent above), the letters H-Z and h-w and the symbol ~ can be $ assigned with the U: and u: fields (the U: defines how the symbols are $ printed and the u: defines how they are played). Later, Guido =8-) I haven't made use of it (and I guess I won't) ;-) I can't find any abc-file that uses it. Arent To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
Guido Gonzato wrote: as you know, Irwin Oppenheim and I are trying to put together a proposal for ABC 2 standard. I have a simple question: has anybody actually seen the u: (lowercase u) field in ABC files? We are considering whether leaving it out. Suggestions are highly appreciated. The u: was originally suggested by Chris Walshaw to be used in place of m: for macros. (I think he like the symmetry of using U: for symbol definitions and u: for macros.) I didn't mind this, and would have been prepared to change BarFly for the next standard if the standard had not totally muddied the water by introducing !...! and using U: for that, and then defining u: as being only for playing purposes. I don't think anyone has implemented w: in a program, and as far as I'm concerned it can go. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote: I don't think anyone has implemented w: in a program, and as far as I'm concerned it can go. I think you meant u:, not w:... Irwin To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Anyone used u:?
Irwin Oppenheim wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote: I don't think anyone has implemented w: in a program, and as far as I'm concerned it can go. I think you meant u:, not w:... Sorry, yes. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
