Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread raju singh
In NVDA, we have object navigation, review cursor and carret, and of course
physical mouse. Suppose you want to click on close button on any windows say
ms word, from the num pad assume that you have turn off, press insert+up
arrow once, and then insert+right arrow few time until NVDA says close
button followed by insert+enter to click.
Hth.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 7:39 AM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobilephonesand Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? suppose I 
want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. i 
could not find the same in NVDA.
- Original Message - 
From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of Screen
 Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source screen 
 reading
 software that can be downloaded free of cost from nvaccess.org web site. 
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some good
 developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India contributing
 new features and improving the screen reading software. The  team is lead 
 by
 one of our brightest software developer who himself is a screen reading
 software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. Manish works full time with 
 Sapient
 Technologies at very senior knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his
 time specifically to the NVDA project. He is supported by one more 
 dedicated
 developer and also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to 
 contribute
 in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS and
 Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation to 
 provide
 financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on 
 priorities
 set by users in India. The team started its work by concentrating on
 improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office applications. Some of 
 the
 remarkable improvements that Indian team contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets and
 auto numbering
 Reading of protected documents in MS word
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box
 Reading of status bar im all office 2010 applications
 Etc...
 This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important 
 these
 features are for us.

 More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to 
 listen
 to us and work on what we think are most important features for us in our
 jobs or educational environments. For example, One major reason due to 
 which
 I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that it did not announce auto
 complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft outlook. Global team had 
 this
 a very low priority because they always suggested to use thunderbird 
 instead
 of MS Outlook. I could not make that shift due to my company policy and
 responsibilities. Indian development team fixed this issue and for past 
 few
 months I am working very happily full time with NVDA as my full time 
 screen
 reading software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of bug
 fixes or new feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So,
 here comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work where we
 find that it is not working. If you would like to report an problem that 
 you
 are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not providing information that
 you need, please report it to: sumandog...@gmail.com

 Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if you 
 would
 like to try out builds of version that NVDA development team in India is
 releasing, write to Suman with this intension on the e-mail provided 
 above.
 These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not ensured for
 stability and thus only those who would like to test out the  new features
 and provide feedback should get into this mode of using NVDA.

 Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide licenses of
 Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of Sangita and 
 Vocaliser
 voices. Saksham will be providing these licenses in a few weeks to come
 after testing stability of whole new licensing system.

 I will also be writing soon about what is being done to add all Indian
 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Important is the task. We need to be able to read all parts of the screen
and messages and also to be able to use mouse clicks when required. 

NVDa already has this functionality. Most of this works with object
navigation. In 2013.2 flat review too has been inhanced to give another
option to do this. 

I too had this problem in the beginning to get used to the reading of
messages where NVDA did not announce messaes automatically and there was no
pointer. Pleaces where we need to rely on jaws cursor when using jaws.

With few days of working with keys of object navigation it has come to same
level of ease of use as with jaws cursor. 

You can compare this to some extent to frame restriction when in jaws
cursor.

By default NVDA is restricted inside current button or control. You just
need to move it one or two levels up by nvda+shift+up arrow and then review
cursor movement commands would begin navigation in application window.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ashik
Sent: 06 September 2013 09:58
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

I think that is the main problem with NVDA. I have been using NVDA for long,
but whenever I get stuck , I have to use JAWS. If the developers of NVDA
makes provisions of something like JAWS cursor, I think the scope of this
free software will increase a lot.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobilephonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? 
 suppose I want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily
do it.
 i could not find the same in NVDA.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
 Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of Screen
 Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source screen 
 reading
 software that can be downloaded free of cost from nvaccess.org web site. 
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some good
 developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India contributing
 new features and improving the screen reading software. The  team is lead

 by
 one of our brightest software developer who himself is a screen reading
 software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. Manish works full time with 
 Sapient
 Technologies at very senior knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of 
 his
 time specifically to the NVDA project. He is supported by one more 
 dedicated
 developer and also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to 
 contribute
 in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS and
 Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation to 
 provide
 financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on 
 priorities
 set by users in India. The team started its work by concentrating on
 improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office applications. Some of 
 the
 remarkable improvements that Indian team contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets and
 auto numbering
 Reading of protected documents in MS word
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box
 Reading of status bar im all office 2010 applications
 Etc...
 This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important 
 these
 features are for us.

 More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to 
 listen
 to us and work on what we think are most important features for us in our
 jobs or educational environments. For example, One major reason due to 
 which
 I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that it did not announce auto
 complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft outlook. Global team had 
 this
 a very low priority because they always suggested to use thunderbird 
 instead
 of MS Outlook. I could not make that shift due to my company policy and
 responsibilities. Indian development team fixed this issue and for past 
 few
 months I am working very happily full time with NVDA as my full time 
 screen
 reading software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Sagar Sodah
Very exciting development indeed!

It is up to all of us now to support the developers by testing
functionality and posting issues and bugs.

 Sagar
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- John Galt in Atlas Shrugged


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Dear Dipendra
 What a lovely news to receive on the teachers day.
 Very excited to read this and we all should translate this window of
 opportunity to the best of use.


 Harish Kotian


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha
 Sent: 05 September 2013 23:25
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of Screen
 Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source screen
 reading
 software that can be downloaded free of cost from nvaccess.org web site.
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some good
 developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India contributing
 new features and improving the screen reading software. The  team is lead
 by
 one of our brightest software developer who himself is a screen reading
 software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. Manish works full time with
 Sapient
 Technologies at very senior knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his
 time specifically to the NVDA project. He is supported by one more
 dedicated
 developer and also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to
 contribute
 in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS and
 Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation to provide
 financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on priorities
 set by users in India. The team started its work by concentrating on
 improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office applications. Some of the
 remarkable improvements that Indian team contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets and
 auto numbering
 Reading of protected documents in MS word
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box
 Reading of status bar im all office 2010 applications
 Etc...
 This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important
 these
 features are for us.

 More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to
 listen
 to us and work on what we think are most important features for us in our
 jobs or educational environments. For example, One major reason due to
 which
 I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that it did not announce auto
 complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft outlook. Global team had this
 a very low priority because they always suggested to use thunderbird
 instead
 of MS Outlook. I could not make that shift due to my company policy and
 responsibilities. Indian development team fixed this issue and for past few
 months I am working very happily full time with NVDA as my full time screen
 reading software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of bug
 fixes or new feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So,
 here comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work where we
 find that it is not working. If you would like to report an problem that
 you
 are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not providing information that
 you need, please report it to: sumandog...@gmail.com

 Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if you
 would
 like to try out builds of version that NVDA development team in India is
 releasing, write to Suman with this intension on the e-mail provided above.
 These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not ensured for
 stability and thus only those who would like to test out the  new features
 and provide feedback should get into this mode of using NVDA.

 Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide licenses of
 Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of Sangita and Vocaliser
 voices. Saksham will be providing these licenses in a few weeks to come
 after testing stability of whole new licensing system.

 I will also be writing soon about what is being done to add all Indian
 languages in E-speak TTS. So, keep watch in this area as lot of exciting
 developments are happening here.

 Wishing everyone all the best and a happy teacher's day.

 Dipendra Manocha






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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread srinivas bangalore_11
Hi,
Nice discussion is going on here.
I would like to add some more points.
Primarily, my company uses gtalk for chatting.
But NVDA is not user friendly in this regard.
I personally use gtalk for chatting.
To read chat messages I need to press insert B. If I chat continously
in an hour it reads from beggining. and menu items are also wont work.
can any one suggest me in this regard?
Or if it is possible, kindly put this point in to development team.
I hope this will get resolved.

Hope I explained my query clearly.

On 9/6/13, Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Important is the task. We need to be able to read all parts of the screen
 and messages and also to be able to use mouse clicks when required.

 NVDa already has this functionality. Most of this works with object
 navigation. In 2013.2 flat review too has been inhanced to give another
 option to do this.

 I too had this problem in the beginning to get used to the reading of
 messages where NVDA did not announce messaes automatically and there was no
 pointer. Pleaces where we need to rely on jaws cursor when using jaws.

 With few days of working with keys of object navigation it has come to same
 level of ease of use as with jaws cursor.

 You can compare this to some extent to frame restriction when in jaws
 cursor.

 By default NVDA is restricted inside current button or control. You just
 need to move it one or two levels up by nvda+shift+up arrow and then review
 cursor movement commands would begin navigation in application window.

 Thanks
 Dipendra


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Ashik
 Sent: 06 September 2013 09:58
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones
 and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 I think that is the main problem with NVDA. I have been using NVDA for
 long,
 but whenever I get stuck , I have to use JAWS. If the developers of NVDA
 makes provisions of something like JAWS cursor, I think the scope of this
 free software will increase a lot.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
 mobilephonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 7:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA?
 suppose I want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can
 easily
 do it.
 i could not find the same in NVDA.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
 Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of Screen
 Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source screen
 reading
 software that can be downloaded free of cost from nvaccess.org web site.

 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some good
 developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India
 contributing
 new features and improving the screen reading software. The  team is
 lead

 by
 one of our brightest software developer who himself is a screen reading
 software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. Manish works full time with
 Sapient
 Technologies at very senior knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of
 his
 time specifically to the NVDA project. He is supported by one more
 dedicated
 developer and also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to
 contribute
 in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS and
 Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation to
 provide
 financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on
 priorities
 set by users in India. The team started its work by concentrating on
 improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office applications. Some of
 the
 remarkable improvements that Indian team contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets
 and
 auto numbering
 Reading of protected documents in MS word
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box
 Reading of status bar im all office 2010 applications
 Etc...
 This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important
 these
 features are for us.

 More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to
 listen
 to us and work on what we think are most important features for us in
 our
 jobs 

[AI] Wanted webside which converts pdf to text

2013-09-06 Thread srinivas bangalore_11
Hi,
When I tried with convertfiles.com to convert scanned documents, I
need to select the output format. When I click the OCR/document
format, it is connecting to ocronline.com website. From there, I am
not able to convert the file..
Can anyone guide me in this regard?
Regards,
Srinivas MVLES.

On 9/5/13, Shreedhar TS. tss@gmail.com wrote:
 Yep, convertfiles.com is a very useful utility, it does have ocr feature
 too.

 On 9/4/13, Sinoj sinoj...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think www.convertfiles.com does have OCR feature. But you have to sign
 up

 for that.

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 From: srinivas bangalore_11 srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:01 PM
 To: sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: Re: [SayEverything] Wanted webside which converts pdf to text

 Hi,
 Nice discussion.
 Do we have any websites where we can convert emmage files to text or
 PDF formats?



 On 9/4/13, soloman s teachs...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello there,
  Send the file  as an attachment to:
  conv...@robobraille.org



  Also, try with

 Zamzar.com

 Thanks,
 Solomon.

 On 9/3/13, jeegarpit...@gmail.com jeegarpit...@gmail.com wrote:
   hi dear friends;
 i want to have the link where we can convert our pdf document to txt.
 It is required, because, i am only accessing cell these days
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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Review cursor is already always active.

You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA
calls it: inside the object.

By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO EXACTLY
WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN SIMPLY
PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of actual
mouse pointer.

You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion
pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual which
describes all these featues very well. 

There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to these
can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.

Thanks
Dipendra




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? suppose I
want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. i
could not find the same in NVDA.
- Original Message -
From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of 
 Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source 
 screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from 
 nvaccess.org web site.
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some 
 good developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India 
 contributing new features and improving the screen reading software. 
 The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who 
 himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. 
 Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior 
 knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to 
 the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and 
 also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to 
 contribute in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS 
 and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation 
 to provide financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on 
 priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by 
 concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office 
 applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team 
 contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets 
 and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word 
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields 
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of 
 status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
 This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important 
 these features are for us.

 More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to 
 listen to us and work on what we think are most important features for 
 us in our jobs or educational environments. For example, One major 
 reason due to which I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that 
 it did not announce auto complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft 
 outlook. Global team had this a very low priority because they always 
 suggested to use thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make 
 that shift due to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian 
 development team fixed this issue and for past few months I am working 
 very happily full time with NVDA as my full time screen reading 
 software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of bug fixes 
 or new feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So, 
 here comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work 
 where we find that it is not working. If you would like to report an 
 problem that you are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not 
 providing information that you need, please report it to: 
 sumandog...@gmail.com

 Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if you 
 would like to try out builds of version that NVDA development team in 
 India is releasing, write to Suman with this intension on the e-mail 
 provided above.
 These 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Would be very interested to engage with this TTS developer to facilitate
that this new TTS is compatible and available with regular NVDA installer.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ashik
Sent: 06 September 2013 06:37
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Dear Sir,

I am glad to inform you all that a Nepali software developer has developed a
Gujarati TTS recently. However it is still to be published. We are in the
processof making it more user-friendly.
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From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of 
 Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source 
 screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from 
 nvaccess.org web site.
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some 
 good developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India 
 contributing new features and improving the screen reading software. 
 The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who 
 himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. 
 Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior 
 knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to 
 the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and 
 also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to 
 contribute in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS 
 and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation 
 to provide financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on 
 priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by 
 concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office 
 applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team 
 contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets 
 and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word 
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields 
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of 
 status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
 This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important 
 these features are for us.

 More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to 
 listen to us and work on what we think are most important features for 
 us in our jobs or educational environments. For example, One major 
 reason due to which I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that 
 it did not announce auto complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft 
 outlook. Global team had this a very low priority because they always 
 suggested to use thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make 
 that shift due to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian 
 development team fixed this issue and for past few months I am working 
 very happily full time with NVDA as my full time screen reading 
 software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of bug fixes 
 or new feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So, 
 here comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work 
 where we find that it is not working. If you would like to report an 
 problem that you are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not 
 providing information that you need, please report it to: 
 sumandog...@gmail.com

 Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if you 
 would like to try out builds of version that NVDA development team in 
 India is releasing, write to Suman with this intension on the e-mail 
 provided above.
 These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not ensured 
 for stability and thus only those who would like to test out the  new 
 features and provide feedback should get into this mode of using NVDA.

 Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide licenses 
 of Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of Sangita and 
 Vocaliser voices. Saksham will be providing these licenses in a few 
 weeks to come after testing stability of whole new licensing system.

 I will also be writing soon about what is being done to add all Indian 
 languages in E-speak TTS. So, keep watch in this area as lot of 
 exciting developments are happening here.

 Wishing everyone all the best and a happy teacher's day.

 

Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
There is a completely different mode of operation when it comes to use of
any android device. 

When we attach a keyboard, we will need to use the touch screen in same way
as normal seeing persons use mouse in collaboration with keyboard.

We are habitual in use of computer applications to do every thing with
keyboard. Most apps on android are not to that llevel of keyboard support. 

There fore, for activating  commands and to reach to diferent parts of
screen or to read text out we would depend on touch screen similar to what
normal seeing persons keep doing every thin on the PC with the help of
mouse.

When ever we reach any edit field where we need to  key in text. We shift to
attached keyboard. In this mode android is very usable. 

Although I am still not very satisfied with basic word processing app which
is fully usable with screen reading software on android. 

IOS is doing much better on that front.

Thanks
Dipendra


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Subject: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Remember to send such requests to Suman.

Thanks
Dipendra


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of srinivas bangalore_11
Sent: 06 September 2013 12:28
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Hi,
Nice discussion is going on here.
I would like to add some more points.
Primarily, my company uses gtalk for chatting.
But NVDA is not user friendly in this regard.
I personally use gtalk for chatting.
To read chat messages I need to press insert B. If I chat continously in an
hour it reads from beggining. and menu items are also wont work.
can any one suggest me in this regard?
Or if it is possible, kindly put this point in to development team.
I hope this will get resolved.

Hope I explained my query clearly.

On 9/6/13, Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Important is the task. We need to be able to read all parts of the 
 screen and messages and also to be able to use mouse clicks when required.

 NVDa already has this functionality. Most of this works with object 
 navigation. In 2013.2 flat review too has been inhanced to give 
 another option to do this.

 I too had this problem in the beginning to get used to the reading of 
 messages where NVDA did not announce messaes automatically and there 
 was no pointer. Pleaces where we need to rely on jaws cursor when using
jaws.

 With few days of working with keys of object navigation it has come to 
 same level of ease of use as with jaws cursor.

 You can compare this to some extent to frame restriction when in jaws 
 cursor.

 By default NVDA is restricted inside current button or control. You 
 just need to move it one or two levels up by nvda+shift+up arrow and 
 then review cursor movement commands would begin navigation in application
window.

 Thanks
 Dipendra


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Ashik
 Sent: 06 September 2013 09:58
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
 mobilephones and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 I think that is the main problem with NVDA. I have been using NVDA for 
 long, but whenever I get stuck , I have to use JAWS. If the developers 
 of NVDA makes provisions of something like JAWS cursor, I think the 
 scope of this free software will increase a lot.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
 mobilephonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 7:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA?
 suppose I want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can 
 easily
 do it.
 i could not find the same in NVDA.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
 Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of 
 Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source 
 screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from 
 nvaccess.org web site.

 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some 
 good developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India 
 contributing new features and improving the screen reading software. 
 The  team is lead

 by
 one of our brightest software developer who himself is a screen 
 reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. Manish works full 
 time with Sapient Technologies at very senior knowledge resource and 
 he now gives 40% of his time specifically to the NVDA project. He is 
 supported by one more dedicated developer and also very experienced 
 screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to 
 contribute in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS 
 and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation 
 to provide financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on 
 priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by 
 concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office 
 applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team 
 contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with 
 bullets and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word 
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi Dipendra

Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself, while 
reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most.

What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an example which 
are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.

Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will automatically 
get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen reader.

Harish Kotian

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Dipendra Manocha
Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs. '
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Review cursor is already always active.

You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA
calls it: inside the object.

By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO EXACTLY
WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN SIMPLY
PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of actual
mouse pointer.

You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion
pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual which
describes all these featues very well. 

There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to these
can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.

Thanks
Dipendra




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? suppose I
want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. i
could not find the same in NVDA.
- Original Message -
From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of 
 Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source 
 screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from 
 nvaccess.org web site.
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some 
 good developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India 
 contributing new features and improving the screen reading software. 
 The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who 
 himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal. 
 Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior 
 knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to 
 the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and 
 also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to 
 contribute in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS 
 and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation 
 to provide financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on 
 priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by 
 concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office 
 applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team 
 contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets 
 and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word 
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields 
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of 
 status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
 This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important 
 these features are for us.

 More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to 
 listen to us and work on what we think are most important features for 
 us in our jobs or educational environments. For example, One major 
 reason due to which I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that 
 it did not announce auto complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft 
 outlook. Global team had this a very low priority because they always 
 suggested to use thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make 
 that shift due to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian 
 development team fixed this 

Re: [AI] : Bbc link

2013-09-06 Thread shahnaz

BBC World Service.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/includes/1024/screen/audio_console.shtml?stream=live





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On Fri 6 Sep, 2013 6:20 AM IST Dhorda hasmukh g. wrote:

Goodmorning all frend.i want bbc ling.
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Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

2013-09-06 Thread Kotian, H P
Dear Dipendra

I have got pretty good usability with the keyboard. You need to update the 
Talkback from the market for it.

You use the 4 cursor keys, tab and the enter key.

With these keys, one can comfortably move from one control to another and 
change its status.

Although I run 4.0 usability is fine because of the USB keyboard.
Harish Kotian.
 
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Dipendra Manocha
Sent: 06 September 2013 12:54
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs. '; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

There is a completely different mode of operation when it comes to use of
any android device. 

When we attach a keyboard, we will need to use the touch screen in same way
as normal seeing persons use mouse in collaboration with keyboard.

We are habitual in use of computer applications to do every thing with
keyboard. Most apps on android are not to that llevel of keyboard support. 

There fore, for activating  commands and to reach to diferent parts of
screen or to read text out we would depend on touch screen similar to what
normal seeing persons keep doing every thin on the PC with the help of
mouse.

When ever we reach any edit field where we need to  key in text. We shift to
attached keyboard. In this mode android is very usable. 

Although I am still not very satisfied with basic word processing app which
is fully usable with screen reading software on android. 

IOS is doing much better on that front.

Thanks
Dipendra


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Sent: 05 September 2013 21:11
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Subject: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

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Re: [AI] problem with youtube.

2013-09-06 Thread akhilesh
I'm also using XP with IE 8.
It works fine with youtube.
Yes.
Reset...
 option will do the trick.


On 9/6/13, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:
 no i haven't. will do that, and also the upgrading. have just been
 procrastinating a bit since i didn't have too many issues all this
 time.
 so i guess things should be ok once the upgrading happens.
 thank u both for your help.

 On 9/6/13, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi shireen,

 Yes, do upgrade to IE 9 or 10. I am a shade surprised that you are using
 Windows XP since it is no longer supported by Microsoft. Have you tested
 with another browser such as Firefox or Google chrome?

 Pranav


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Re: [AI] Announcement at airports

2013-09-06 Thread Parmala Bhat
friends, I  had been to the airport last week  while I  was leaving for sree 
lanka I  did hear the announcement.If you are discussing about airport not 
announcing.
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Subject: Re: [AI] Announcement at airports



Hi George,

This is an airport regulation and is applicable to all airlines.

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[AI] Using the right Web address

2013-09-06 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
Q. Kim, I'm confused about Web addresses. Some sites have a www, and
sometimes they don't. Sometimes they need the www to work and
sometimes they don't. What gives?
-Rick from Lexington, KY, listens to my national show on WVLK 590 AM

A. I don't blame you for being confused, Rick. For those who don't get
what Rick is asking, here's an example.

My main website is www.komando.com, but you can also get there by
typing komando.com. It works either way.

However, I also use news.komando.com and videos.komando.com. My
contests http://www.komando.com/contests/ have similar addresses, such
as win.komando.com. But if you add a www to the beginning of those,
like www.news.komando.com, it doesn't work.

As confusing as it might sound, there is a reason for this.

First, you should know a few terms. The main part of a Web address,
such as the komando in www.komando.com, is commonly called a
domain.

The prefix, such as www, news or videos, is a subdomain. (For
those who know, I'm going to ignore top-level domains right now to
keep the explanation shorter.)

Think of the domain like a hotel and the subdomains like rooms. Each
room can have different decorations.

With that in mind, let's take a quick step back through time.

In the early days of the Internet, things were very different. There
was no World Wide Web as we know it. There were no cat pictures or
videos. Everything was plain text.

There were also other ways people regularly communicated. Some people
set up parts of their sites for file transfers, email and news groups.

To keep these organized, they used subdomains, or, in our analogy,
hotel rooms. So, what we now call a website would often live in the
World Wide Web, or www, subdomain.

A place for uploading and downloading files would live in the File
Transfer Protocol or ftp subdomain. News groups usually used news
or nntp.

As the Web became bigger, the www subdomain became the most-used for
websites. Soon, the www became what you typed by default.

Basically it went from a hotel room to the hotel lobby. That's why
starting around 2003, browsers began to add it for you automatically
if you forgot.

These days, most sites just redirected their domain to the www
subdomain. That's why when you visit komando.com it redirects to
www.komando.com.

But not every site does, which is why you can occasionally run into
problems. For a while, search sites still treated www and non-www
addresses as different sites, even if the content was the same.

Today, advances in search sites have made this a non-issue. Search
sites are now smart enough to know that both addresses have the same
content.

This also explains why typing in http://www.news.komando.com doesn't
work. News is a subdomain of the komando.com site. You're asking
for a subdomain - www - of a subdomain - news. Going back to our
hotel analogy, it's like looking in the closet expecting to find the
bed.

As a rule, it usually doesn't matter if a site address uses www or
not. It's just a leftover from the early days of the Internet.

However, you may run into a few sites where the www is necessary.
It's pretty rare, but some sites require it. If you have trouble
loading a site, try putting the www back in.

Occasionally, this will fix the issue and route you to the correct site.

However, if the site address is already a subdomain, like
videos.komando.com, then no www is needed.

Source:
http://www.komando.com/tips/index.aspx?id=10187utm_medium=nlutm_source=asdutm_content=2013-09-06-fifl-totd-ctapage=1

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Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Hi Harish

I was finding difficulties inside some applications.  And found that reading
using normal touch screen with explore by touch was more reliable. I may
need to play more with my devices. 

Thanks
Dipendra




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Sent: 06 September 2013 13:10
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Subject: Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

Dear Dipendra

I have got pretty good usability with the keyboard. You need to update the
Talkback from the market for it.

You use the 4 cursor keys, tab and the enter key.

With these keys, one can comfortably move from one control to another and
change its status.

Although I run 4.0 usability is fine because of the USB keyboard.
Harish Kotian.
 
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Subject: Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

There is a completely different mode of operation when it comes to use of
any android device. 

When we attach a keyboard, we will need to use the touch screen in same way
as normal seeing persons use mouse in collaboration with keyboard.

We are habitual in use of computer applications to do every thing with
keyboard. Most apps on android are not to that llevel of keyboard support. 

There fore, for activating  commands and to reach to diferent parts of
screen or to read text out we would depend on touch screen similar to what
normal seeing persons keep doing every thin on the PC with the help of
mouse.

When ever we reach any edit field where we need to  key in text. We shift to
attached keyboard. In this mode android is very usable. 

Although I am still not very satisfied with basic word processing app which
is fully usable with screen reading software on android. 

IOS is doing much better on that front.

Thanks
Dipendra


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Subject: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

laptop or tab wich is useful as a portable system for a blind, having  
mainly academical interest? facility to type Indian language should 
be also considered while advising me.

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Actually unlearning is biger challenge than learning. 

There are some podcasts for object navigation already available. We may need
to do some specifically for jaws users. Even for that. It would be better if
new NVDA users could point out where they are getting stuck and where they
feel the need to switch back to jaws. That feedback would be very helpful. 

Thanks
Dipendra




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Sent: 06 September 2013 13:01
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Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Hi Dipendra

Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself,
while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most.

What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an example
which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.

Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will
automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen
reader.

Harish Kotian

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Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Review cursor is already always active.

You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA
calls it: inside the object.

By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO EXACTLY
WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN SIMPLY
PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of actual
mouse pointer.

You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion
pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual which
describes all these featues very well. 

There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to these
can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.

Thanks
Dipendra




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Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
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Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? suppose I
want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. i
could not find the same in NVDA.
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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of 
 Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source 
 screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from 
 nvaccess.org web site.
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some 
 good developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India 
 contributing new features and improving the screen reading software.
 The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who 
 himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal.
 Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior 
 knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to 
 the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and 
 also very experienced screen reading software tester.

 IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to 
 contribute in development of NVDA.

 All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS 
 and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation 
 to provide financial support to run this project.

 Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on 
 priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by 
 concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office 
 applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team 
 contributed to NVDA include:

 Added sentence reading command
 Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets 
 and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word 
 Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields 
 Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of 
 status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
 This list is 

Re: [AI] Possible Spam : Re: Announcement at airports

2013-09-06 Thread Sushmeetha
I am talking about domestic airports. 

Request all the members to pen down their latest experiences at the airport
reference to the announcements. 

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friends, I  had been to the airport last week  while I  was leaving for sree

lanka I  did hear the announcement.If you are discussing about airport not 
announcing.
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 Hi George,

 This is an airport regulation and is applicable to all airlines.

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[AI] News items on Eyeway's website

2013-09-06 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Hi all:

Four news stories have found their way on to the Eyeway website:

1. Only 62 special educators for capital’s 18,000 special children
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=only-62-special-educators-capital%E2%80%99s-18000-special-children
Which looks at the lack of resources for inclusive education.

2. Sightless angels who lit the lives of many
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=sightless-angels-who-lit-lives-many

and 3. Thanks for being there, teacher
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=thanks-being-there-teacher

Both articles use schools for the blind in Teachers Day stories

4. Research highlighting superior numerical skills of congenitally blind
people could open up new ways of teaching maths to young children
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=research-highlighting-superior-numerical-skills-congenitally-blind-people-could-open-new-ways
Article about research in the UK linking blindness with learning Maths.

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Re: [AI] Announcement at airports

2013-09-06 Thread Shireen Irani
could u please mention which airport this was??
thanx.

On 9/6/13, Parmala Bhat parimala2...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends, I  had been to the airport last week  while I  was leaving for sree

 lanka I  did hear the announcement.If you are discussing about airport not
 announcing.
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Re: [AI] My NPS account has been locked.

2013-09-06 Thread Sachit Kumar Sahrawat
Hi there!


Please call there helpline at 1800222080.


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 Hello every body,
 My NPS account has been locked.
 What can I do?
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Re: [AI] News items on Eyeway's website

2013-09-06 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi
A few days I flew Mumbai, delhi and delhi international terminal
Announcements there in all the 3 terminals.
Harish Kotian


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Sent: 06 September 2013 15:42
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] News items on Eyeway's website

Hi all:

Four news stories have found their way on to the Eyeway website:

1. Only 62 special educators for capital's 18,000 special children
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=only-62-special-educators-capital%E2%80%99s-18000-special-children
Which looks at the lack of resources for inclusive education.

2. Sightless angels who lit the lives of many
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=sightless-angels-who-lit-lives-many

and 3. Thanks for being there, teacher
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=thanks-being-there-teacher

Both articles use schools for the blind in Teachers Day stories

4. Research highlighting superior numerical skills of congenitally blind
people could open up new ways of teaching maths to young children
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=research-highlighting-superior-numerical-skills-congenitally-blind-people-could-open-new-ways
Article about research in the UK linking blindness with learning Maths.

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[AI] Accessibility consultants / firm working for accessibility consultancy.

2013-09-06 Thread Amar Jain
Dear All,

We have a web-based application at our workplace, designed by Uberall
Law, a Pune based company. The application is used for time-sheet
filling amongst other purposes.

The application however is not screen reader friendly. There are
onmouseover elements, which cannot be activated using Jaws curser,
mouse clicks using keyboard, OCR feature of Jaws, hotspot clicker
scripts, etc. The source code is obfuscated, so can't comment as to
what is wrong.

Finally the developer from their team is coming to meet me on 16th to
understand the requirements, and desired changes to be made.
Therefore, I am in need of an accessibility consultant / a firm
working in this area.

Initially, I expect the consultant to document the desired changes to
be made, and / or assist the developers wherever needed. As it is
unlikely that the developers will part with their source code.

If required, then one or 2 visits will also need to be made to my
office. And if that is not possible, then remote session may be
required if developers need some assistance. Any additional
assumptions may be made as the work in this field involves.

Interested individuals / consultants working with the firm may drop me
an email with the quotation, along with the work experience, the kind
of projects handled in past, etc.

This may be treated as urgent. Feel free to call me on +91-9892622230
should there exist additional queries.

Regards,
-- 
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Website: www.amarjain.com

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[AI] team viewer problem, please help!

2013-09-06 Thread raju singh
Respected sirs!

 

I have been informed by some friends that if the remote computer has either
jaws or NVDA installed, one can operate from his computer because of the
sound of such screen reader. But today I've tried using my friend's netbook
who is in kalkata and using NVDA as his screen reader, team viewer is also
successfully configured, but there is no sound coming from his computer to
my computer, therefore couldn't use his computer. First I thought that as I
was using xp and he is using win 7, it might be the problem with the OS, but
finally I also have check from my laptop  which has windows 7 loaded, but
problem was the same. therefore  So if some one has the experience using
teamviewer please provide step by step instruction that how one can
configure teamviewer specially focusing on accessibility?

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[AI] VISUALLY IMPAIRED HR Executives

2013-09-06 Thread Mujeeb Rahman
Dear All,

Kindly share the contact details of visually impaired HR Executives
for my project frame work.

Regards,
Mujeeb Rahman

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Re: [AI] team viewer problem, please help!

2013-09-06 Thread Ajay Minocha
hello,
1. make sure that internet connection is good enough.
2. xp has some  known issues. I tried using one of my friend's laptop
who had xp installed. But she had to take me on a Skype call because I
couldn't hear any sound.
3. please check that send sound or some thing similar named option is
checked in your friend's computer.
regards

On 9/6/13, raju singh bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Respected sirs!



 I have been informed by some friends that if the remote computer has either
 jaws or NVDA installed, one can operate from his computer because of the
 sound of such screen reader. But today I've tried using my friend's netbook
 who is in kalkata and using NVDA as his screen reader, team viewer is also
 successfully configured, but there is no sound coming from his computer to
 my computer, therefore couldn't use his computer. First I thought that as I
 was using xp and he is using win 7, it might be the problem with the OS,
 but
 finally I also have check from my laptop  which has windows 7 loaded, but
 problem was the same. therefore  So if some one has the experience using
 teamviewer please provide step by step instruction that how one can
 configure teamviewer specially focusing on accessibility?

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Ashik

Rightly said, sir. I'll contact you at a proper time in this regard.
- Original Message - 
From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phonesand Tabs. ' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE



Would be very interested to engage with this TTS developer to facilitate
that this new TTS is compatible and available with regular NVDA installer.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Ashik
Sent: 06 September 2013 06:37
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
mobilephones

and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Dear Sir,

I am glad to inform you all that a Nepali software developer has developed 
a

Gujarati TTS recently. However it is still to be published. We are in the
processof making it more user-friendly.
- Original Message -
From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE



Dear Access-Indians

I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of
Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source
screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from
nvaccess.org web site.
Its
latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some
good developments related to NVDA here in India.

First; A development team is now working right here in India
contributing new features and improving the screen reading software.
The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who
himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal.
Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior
knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to
the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and
also very experienced screen reading software tester.

IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to
contribute in development of NVDA.

All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS
and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation
to provide financial support to run this project.

Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on
priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by
concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office
applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team
contributed to NVDA include:

Added sentence reading command
Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets
and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word
Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields
Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of
status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important
these features are for us.

More important is that we now have developers who are very willing to
listen to us and work on what we think are most important features for
us in our jobs or educational environments. For example, One major
reason due to which I myself was not able to switch to NVDA was that
it did not announce auto complete suggestions of mail IDs in Microsoft
outlook. Global team had this a very low priority because they always
suggested to use thunderbird instead of MS Outlook. I could not make
that shift due to my company policy and responsibilities. Indian
development team fixed this issue and for past few months I am working
very happily full time with NVDA as my full time screen reading
software. What this team now wants is that the priorities of bug fixes
or new feature requests should be set by the users themselves. So,
here comes the opportunity to make a screen reading software work
where we find that it is not working. If you would like to report an
problem that you are facing use of NVDA or you feel NVDA is not
providing information that you need, please report it to:
sumandog...@gmail.com

Normally there are three releases of NVDA every year. How-ever, if you
would like to try out builds of version that NVDA development team in
India is releasing, write to Suman with this intension on the e-mail
provided above.
These releases are issued after every bug fix. These are not ensured
for stability and thus only those who would like to test out the  new
features and provide feedback should get into this mode of using NVDA.

Last but not the least, We are getting very close of provide licenses
of Eloquence to work with NVDA along with the license of Sangita and
Vocaliser voices. Saksham will be providing these licenses in a few
weeks to come after testing 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Ashik
I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I 
listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I have 
nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better 
tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial.
- Original Message - 
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE



Hi Dipendra

Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself, 
while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most.


What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an example 
which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.


Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will 
automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen 
reader.


Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha

Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phones and Tabs. '

Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Review cursor is already always active.

You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA
calls it: inside the object.

By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO 
EXACTLY

WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN 
SIMPLY

PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of 
actual

mouse pointer.

You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion
pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual which
describes all these featues very well.

There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to these
can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.

Thanks
Dipendra




-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
mobilephones

and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? suppose 
I

want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. i
could not find the same in NVDA.
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From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE



Dear Access-Indians

I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of
Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source
screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from
nvaccess.org web site.
Its
latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some
good developments related to NVDA here in India.

First; A development team is now working right here in India
contributing new features and improving the screen reading software.
The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who
himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal.
Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior
knowledge resource and he now gives 40% of his time specifically to
the NVDA project. He is supported by one more dedicated developer and
also very experienced screen reading software tester.

IIT Delhi is also putting a team together to work under Manish to
contribute in development of NVDA.

All these efforts are under a joint project being implemented by CIS
and Saksham and supported by enable-India. Thanks to Hans Foundation
to provide financial support to run this project.

Specific objective of getting a team here in India is to work on
priorities set by users in India. The team started its work by
concentrating on improving performance of NVDA in Microsoft office
applications. Some of the remarkable improvements that Indian team
contributed to NVDA include:

Added sentence reading command
Improved paragraph reading command performance specially with bullets
and auto numbering Reading of protected documents in MS word
Announcement of suggestions in microsoft outlook in to or cc fields
Improvements of speech output in spell check dialogue box Reading of
status bar im all office 2010 applications Etc...
This list is growing fast and we can all appreciate that how important
these features are for us.

More important is that we now have developers who 

[AI] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.

2013-09-06 Thread Shireen Irani
forwarding an important mail from the other mailing list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Balanagendran balanagendran@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:07:01 +0530
Subject: [SayEverything] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.
To: sayeverything sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org

Respected moderator and members of say everything,
kindly read below to know how we, the visually challenged have been
projected by the official who is appointed to work for the betterment
of us. i request you all to read and suggest the measures to bring
this official to public media and to justice. here it goes.
the translated statement given below were delivered by Dr. I.
Arivanandham, regional director of NIVH (national institute for the
visually handicapped) chennai, on 27th august during the conference on
orientation programme on equal opportunities. kindly read below and
do something.
“people with total blindness do not know how to clean their teath,
they do not know of cleanliness, they do not know how to take a clean
bath, and even they do not have proper dressing sense. Moreover, a
totally blind mother do not know how to lift her new borne child, and
they do not know how to breastfeed. totally blind people will always
feel that they are insecure. On the other hand, the partially blind
are more arrogant. They always hate to have a walking stick. They
indulge in frequent conflict while travelling in bus and in public
places. Normally partially blind people are more aggressive in nature.
They do not want to project themselves as blind, however they will use
this disability as a shield to get them out whenever they got caught.
They too have a problem of efficiency in discharging their duties
efficiently at workplace. There is another classification of blind,
that is people who lossed their vision due to accidents and other
reasons. They are arrogant than that of the above. They always hate to
live after their loss of vision. They always think of killing
themselves. They always try to avoid their duties by showing their
disability in the first place. Ok, Let us keep all the above aside. If
we consider the intellectual capability of the blind, it is 20% of the
total person. Because 80% capability arise out of vision, this is a
scientific truth. However with this 20%, they project themselves as
capable persons and demand employment opportunities in government
sectors. They are difficult to manage at workplace. If you help the
blind once, they will enforce it as their right upon you from next
time. They will become your constant disturbance if you help them once
even to cross the road. besides all that, we have no alternatives but
to provide them 3% reservation in government employment.”
note:
dear members, the above views are not delivered by any other
government official, but by the official who has been appointed to
work for the betterment of the visually challenged. after serving in
this arena for 25 years, he addressed the government gathering that
contained officials from all government departments under the label
his PHD findings. kindly look into this and suggest the measures to
bring this official into limelight. this derogatory remarks are not
about a single visually challenged, it is not a bout the visually
challenged of a particular state, but this demoralising statement is
about all the indian visually challenged. kindly prioritise and let us
do something about it. for your authentisity and convenience, am
pasting the link of a blog that contains his statements in tamil.
http://nandhanpurithal.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%88%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B1%E0%AF%8B%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%8E%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%A9%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%8D-%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%AE/comment-page-1/#comment-2
let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace,
take care!


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[AI] Doubt regarding ocronline.com website:

2013-09-06 Thread srinivas bangalore_11
Hi team,
I am not able to convert the documents from oconline.com website from
jpg format to document format.


Can any one guide me in this regard?

With best regards,
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[AI] You Tube demonstrations of the JAWS Screenreader, Dan's Tip for September 6 2013

2013-09-06 Thread raju singh
Here are several You Tube demonstrations of the JAWS Screenreader. 

 

I found many of these very useful when looking for solutions to an
individual's computer issue.

 

Posted by Everette Bacon 

There are almost 2000 videos about JAWS on YouTube. Here is what I have
looked at so far.

Basic overview of the JAWS screen reader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiKWTTtGq7Ufmt=18

JAWS Screen Reader - Hear an Example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK97XMibEwsfmt=18

Demo of JAWS Screen Reader, March 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4SUIjggyN8hd=1

Using a Computer as a Blind Person - JAWS Screen Reader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1uYlgLSKMkfmt=18

ARIA Live Regions Screen Reader Demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nZnTdSAkH0hd=1

Video 9 - Using Jaws Computer Screen Reader to Create A Table
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78tkdCWt7H0fmt=18

Accessing the web using screen reading software
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPNTctdezgfmt=18

Introduction to the Screen Reader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvWCnFjAGgofmt=18

Web accessibility for people with vision impairments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j2x2miPPDQfmt=18hd=1

Importance of HTML Headings for Accessibility
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmUPhEVWu_Efmt=18hd=1

JAWS - screen reader Demo by Pam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDEgj0a0Xl8fmt=18hd=1

Introduction to screenreaders - JAWS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yWgoPW0nxMfmt=18hd=1

Logger Pro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQjGCHBiqVAfmt=18

JAWS VS NVDA. a screen reader battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQFI63b7e_gfmt=18

JAWS 14 screen reader VS NVDA screen reader by Robert Kingett
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb5L1Exn_c8fmt=18hd=1

Assistive technology program JAWS screen reader web accessibility
demonstration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIWJpXvQmHQhd=1

JAWS screen reader reading liferay.com homepage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMLjnwyTxiIfmt=18

Looking at the J K Rowling website with the Jaws screen reader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xxAgVat64fmt=18hd=1

Jaws Screen Reader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vBHCdZjnFIfmt=18

Jaws version 10 screen reader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-DnjLzpwBsfmt=18

JAWS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q2vOWzBUiQfmt=18hd=1

Web Accessibility Tutorial - Screen Readers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbEtJAA1YZQfmt=18hd=1

 

 

 




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[AI] regarding apple phone information

2013-09-06 Thread markandeswar rao bandi
Hi dear friends
I want information about apple phone
What is the difference between android and apple phone?
Which phone is most accessible for visual impaired persons?
What is the starting price accessible apple phone?
It is any keyboard supporting apple phone is available?
Kindly give information above my doubts
thank you.
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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Mahesh S. Panicker
Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of
NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people
have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a
difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are
not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to
understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user.
Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with
Jaws  with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of
work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts
but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they
could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA
as well, things could become a lot better.
Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws
function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames,
particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to
keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like.
This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and
go from strength to strength.

On 9/6/13, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I
 listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I have
 nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better
 tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Hi Dipendra

 Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself,
 while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most.

 What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an example

 which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.

 Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will
 automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen
 reader.

 Harish Kotian

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha
 Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
 To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones and Tabs. '
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 Review cursor is already always active.

 You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

 NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA
 calls it: inside the object.

 By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO
 EXACTLY
 WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

 WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN
 SIMPLY
 PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

 In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of
 actual
 mouse pointer.

 You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion
 pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

 With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual
 which
 describes all these featues very well.

 There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to
 these
 can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.

 Thanks
 Dipendra




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
 mobilephones
 and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA? suppose

 I
 want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it. i
 could not find the same in NVDA.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
 Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of
 Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source
 screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from
 nvaccess.org web site.
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some
 good developments related to NVDA here in India.

 First; A development team is now working right here in India
 contributing new features and improving the screen reading software.
 The  team is lead by one of our brightest software developer who
 himself is a screen reading software user. He is Mr. Manish Agrawal.
 Manish works full time with Sapient Technologies at very senior
 knowledge resource and he now 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Mahesh S. Panicker
And another little thing. On pressing shift plus the relevant key,
Jaws takes one to the last button/checkbox/combobox/list on a web
page even from the top. Would be nice if NVDA could do the same, as
reading webpages could be made a lot more easier with such
flexibility.

On 9/6/13, Mahesh S. Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of
 NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people
 have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a
 difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are
 not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to
 understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user.
 Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with
 Jaws  with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of
 work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts
 but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they
 could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA
 as well, things could become a lot better.
 Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws
 function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames,
 particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to
 keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like.
 This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and
 go from strength to strength.

 On 9/6/13, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I
 listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I
 have
 nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better
 tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Hi Dipendra

 Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself,
 while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most.

 What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an
 example

 which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.

 Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will
 automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen
 reader.

 Harish Kotian

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha
 Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
 To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones and Tabs. '
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 Review cursor is already always active.

 You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

 NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA
 calls it: inside the object.

 By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO
 EXACTLY
 WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

 WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN
 SIMPLY
 PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

 In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of
 actual
 mouse pointer.

 You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion
 pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

 With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual
 which
 describes all these featues very well.

 There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to
 these
 can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.

 Thanks
 Dipendra




 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of bhawani shankar verma
 Sent: 06 September 2013 07:39
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
 mobilephones
 and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 sir, what is the alternate of jaws and invisible cursore in NVDA?
 suppose

 I
 want to press the close button with a jaws cursore, I can easily do it.
 i
 could not find the same in NVDA.
 - Original Message -
 From: Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:24 PM
 Subject: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Dear Access-Indians

 I would like to share a very exciting development in the area of
 Screen Reading software. As you all know that NVDA is an open source
 screen reading software that can be downloaded free of cost from
 nvaccess.org web site.
 Its
 latest version is 2013-2 released just few days ago. There are some
 good developments related to NVDA here in India.


Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread timy sebastian ettumanoor

please please someone creat a better audio tutorial for the same.

waiting as the earliest.

thanks in advance your friend,

Timy.

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Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

2013-09-06 Thread SYED IMRAN
I stand corrected - keys like page up, page down, end and home don't work in
android and iOS. There is no option to move the cursor to the beginning /
end of the editing document. There's no option to find a specific text or go
to a specific page.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kotian, H P
Sent: 06 September 2013 13:10
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

Dear Dipendra

I have got pretty good usability with the keyboard. You need to update the
Talkback from the market for it.

You use the 4 cursor keys, tab and the enter key.

With these keys, one can comfortably move from one control to another and
change its status.

Although I run 4.0 usability is fine because of the USB keyboard.
Harish Kotian.
 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Dipendra Manocha
Sent: 06 September 2013 12:54
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs. '; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

There is a completely different mode of operation when it comes to use of
any android device. 

When we attach a keyboard, we will need to use the touch screen in same way
as normal seeing persons use mouse in collaboration with keyboard.

We are habitual in use of computer applications to do every thing with
keyboard. Most apps on android are not to that llevel of keyboard support. 

There fore, for activating  commands and to reach to diferent parts of
screen or to read text out we would depend on touch screen similar to what
normal seeing persons keep doing every thin on the PC with the help of
mouse.

When ever we reach any edit field where we need to  key in text. We shift to
attached keyboard. In this mode android is very usable. 

Although I am still not very satisfied with basic word processing app which
is fully usable with screen reading software on android. 

IOS is doing much better on that front.

Thanks
Dipendra


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of viswan
Sent: 05 September 2013 21:11
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Subject: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

laptop or tab wich is useful as a portable system for a blind, having  
mainly academical interest? facility to type Indian language should 
be also considered while advising me.

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Kiran Kaja
Glad to know that this excellent work is being done in India.

I have a rather useful feature request.

When reading through the message list in Outlook using the up and down arrow
keys, NVDA announces all the column headers along with the message details,
for example, message read, from Manish Agrawal, Subject {AI} Exciting
development in screen reading software, received 18:30, size 22 kb
Column headers like from, subject, received, etc are unnecessary
verbiage especially for someone who spends 3-4 hours a day working with
Outlook.

It would be good to have a feature where these column header announcements
can be turned off for Outlook. It would just be enough for NVDA to announce
Manish Agrawal, {AI} Exciting developments in screen reading software,
18:30 22kb This would make reading through the Outlook message list
much faster and less repetitive.

If there is already a way to do this in NVDA, I would be happy to be told
how.

Just my two cents  worth.

Regards,
Kiran
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Manish Agrawal
Sent: 06 September 2013 18:29
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs. '
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Hello,
snipI have nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a
better tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such
tutorial./snip It is interesting to hear all the different user
perspectives. I'll put across mine - and honestly I am not trying to
inflame this healthy discussion.

One thing that has not come up in this discussion and is not very obvious to
us as users is that this is open source software. It not only means it is
free, it also means that we as users can contribute to it as much as we can.

For example, a tutorial is not something that a software developer only
needs to create. Every single person on this list can contribute to creating
learning resources about NVDA - you try things, read up on the net, ask a
friend etc. and find out a few things about NVDA that you didn't know till
yesterday, feel free to go out and distribute that information to others. 
Create your own tutorials, blog posts, podcasts etc. Those will not be
perfect but they will be better than not having anything for the next person
and you would have contributed towards making NVDA better.

So, we can just ask for features and bug fixes and tutorials and wish
someone will do it. 
Or we can also contribute in whatever little ways we can - e.g. create
tutorials, volunteer to train others, become beta testers and report
problems etc.

Philosophy aside, some tips for users struggling with new/different concepts
in NVDA:
1. Join the NVDA support mailing list. It is a list similar to access India
and full of very passionate and experienced NVDA users. You can find a lot
of help on the simple and not so simple problems you run into while getting
up to speed with NVDA.

2. NVDA is not jaws. It is a different screen reader that is trying a
different set of innovations and mechanisms to bring accessibility to
software. Spend more time learning NVDA.

3. NVDA is not jaws (did I just say that??). Jaws is much older, has a much
larger team of developers, has much more funding etc. but jaws is also much
more expensive. NVDA is a simpler product and although it is very powerful,
it does not have all the features of jaws. However, at this point it is so
powerful that a user like me who deals with a lot of cutting edge newly
developed software applications on a daily basis is able to run only with
NVDA almost the whole day.

4. Developing a screen reader is very hard. So, if you reported a bug, asked
for a feature etc. and no one seems to hear you for a while, do not despair.
Every small fix in NVDA takes a lot of time and effort. The developers are
probably still fixing the last request.

Regards,
Manish
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ashik
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:38 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I
listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I have
nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better
tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial.
- Original Message -
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Hi Dipendra

 Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it 
 yourself, while reading about it it seems something that is not my 

Re: [AI] team viewer problem, please help!

2013-09-06 Thread Bandi Sudhakar
hello sir is this software works only in  laptops  and net books

or can we use in  desktops


thanks

On 9/6/13, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello,
 1. make sure that internet connection is good enough.
 2. xp has some  known issues. I tried using one of my friend's laptop
 who had xp installed. But she had to take me on a Skype call because I
 couldn't hear any sound.
 3. please check that send sound or some thing similar named option is
 checked in your friend's computer.
 regards

 On 9/6/13, raju singh bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Respected sirs!



 I have been informed by some friends that if the remote computer has
 either
 jaws or NVDA installed, one can operate from his computer because of the
 sound of such screen reader. But today I've tried using my friend's
 netbook
 who is in kalkata and using NVDA as his screen reader, team viewer is
 also
 successfully configured, but there is no sound coming from his computer
 to
 my computer, therefore couldn't use his computer. First I thought that as
 I
 was using xp and he is using win 7, it might be the problem with the OS,
 but
 finally I also have check from my laptop  which has windows 7 loaded, but
 problem was the same. therefore  So if some one has the experience using
 teamviewer please provide step by step instruction that how one can
 configure teamviewer specially focusing on accessibility?

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[AI] regarding scribe guide lines of SEBI officer grade 'a' exam

2013-09-06 Thread pavan kumar lingam
Dear access Indians
Warm greetings
I would like to know if any one on the list going to take SEBI grade
‘a’ officer exam which is going to be held on 15th of this month.
There is a problem regarding the scribe guide lines prescribed by SEBI
one of the guide lines stated by SEBI is as follows.
The facility of a scribe would be allowed only to those PWD candidates who have
Physical limitation to write, including that of speed. In case, such candidates
Qualifies in the online test and is called for interview, at the time
of interview, the
Candidate will have to produce a medical certificate (along with a photocopy)
From an authorized Govt. of India/State Govt. Department/ Hospital to the 
effect
that the candidate has physical limitation to write including that of
speed. This
certificate will be required in addition to his/her disability
certificate. The medical
Certificate about physical limitation to write, including that of
speed, should be
Dated prior to the date of online test. At the interview centre, the
original will be
verified and photocopy will be retained by the centre in-charge. Candidates
Without such certificate will not be allowed to appear for the interview.

Look at this in spite of submitting  medical certificate SEBI is
asking another certificate   and that too having a date prior to that
of online exam.
How can a  person having 100% blindness write on his own?
What is the point in asking a person who is 100% blind to get a
certificate stating that he / she cannot write on his / her own and
needs help?
I’ve tried talking to HR department of SEBI though they agreed to
accept for a certificate) post dated to online exam) that is only in
words and that too they are saying “you first take the exam and come
for the interview then we will consider”.
Friends what is all this? How to over come this problem?
I request learned members on the list to offer there valuable suggestions.
Thanks and regards,



-- 
l.pavan(help ever  hurt never)

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Manish Agrawal
Hello,
snipI have nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a 
better tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial./snip
It is interesting to hear all the different user perspectives. I'll put across 
mine - and honestly I am not trying to inflame this healthy discussion.

One thing that has not come up in this discussion and is not very obvious to us 
as users is that this is open source software. It not only means it is free, 
it also means that we as users can contribute to it as much as we can.

For example, a tutorial is not something that a software developer only needs 
to create. Every single person on this list can contribute to creating learning 
resources about NVDA - you try things, read up on the net, ask a friend etc. 
and find out a few things about NVDA that you didn't know till yesterday, feel 
free to go out and distribute that information to others. 
Create your own tutorials, blog posts, podcasts etc. Those will not be perfect 
but they will be better than not having anything for the next person and you 
would have contributed towards making NVDA better.

So, we can just ask for features and bug fixes and tutorials and wish someone 
will do it. 
Or we can also contribute in whatever little ways we can - e.g. create 
tutorials, volunteer to train others, become beta testers and report problems 
etc.

Philosophy aside, some tips for users struggling with new/different concepts in 
NVDA:
1. Join the NVDA support mailing list. It is a list similar to access India and 
full of very passionate and experienced NVDA users. You can find a lot of help 
on the simple and not so simple problems you run into while getting up to speed 
with NVDA.

2. NVDA is not jaws. It is a different screen reader that is trying a different 
set of innovations and mechanisms to bring accessibility to software. Spend 
more time learning NVDA.

3. NVDA is not jaws (did I just say that??). Jaws is much older, has a much 
larger team of developers, has much more funding etc. but jaws is also much 
more expensive. NVDA is a simpler product and although it is very powerful, it 
does not have all the features of jaws. However, at this point it is so 
powerful that a user like me who deals with a lot of cutting edge newly 
developed software applications on a daily basis is able to run only with NVDA 
almost the whole day.

4. Developing a screen reader is very hard. So, if you reported a bug, asked 
for a feature etc. and no one seems to hear you for a while, do not despair. 
Every small fix in NVDA takes a lot of time and effort. The developers are 
probably still fixing the last request.

Regards,
Manish
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ashik
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 6:38 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobilephones and 
Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I 
listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I have 
nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better tutorial. 
Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial.
- Original Message -
From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Hi Dipendra

 Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it 
 yourself, while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for 
 most.

 What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an 
 example which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.

 Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will 
 automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen 
 reader.

 Harish Kotian

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha
 Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
 To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
 phones and Tabs. '
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 Review cursor is already always active.

 You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

 NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as 
 NVDA+NVDA
 calls it: inside the object.

 By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO 
 EXACTLY WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

 WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN 
 SIMPLY PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

 In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of 
 actual mouse pointer.

 You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion 
 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread raju singh
Hello! As far as I know regarding NVDA, instead of jaws I have tasted many
payed screen reader like windows eyes, thunder, etc but perhaps those screen
reader might be more powerful even then jaws, but I didn't like those screen
reader cause I couldn't understand the feature of those screen reader
clearly, and keyboard command was also very tricky. But I felt jaws and NVDA
is only the program which can support number of popular application. And if
I considered regarding the portability of screen reader, I like NVDA much,
cause we can use NVDA along with eloquence voice in any computer without
installing them. Till now we can not expect another cursor like jaws or
invisible cursor in NVDA, but perhaps things will going to be change soon.
cause in order to access another cursor from the keyboard along with speech,
it need its own display driver which NVDA doesn't have right now. Jaws is
using video intersept software, which require to install in computer if
you are using the portable jaws as his display driver. Therefore I believe
that we have to rely on the NVDA cursor which is review cursor or object
navigation. And another things should be included in the NVDA package is
that, as jaws how one can create his or her own required addons using python
language. 


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Of Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:05 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phonesand Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of
NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people
have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a
difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are
not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to
understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user.
Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with
Jaws  with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of
work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts
but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they
could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA
as well, things could become a lot better.
Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws
function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames,
particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to
keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like.
This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and
go from strength to strength.

On 9/6/13, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. I
 listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. I have
 nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a better
 tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial.
 - Original Message -
 From: Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phonesand Tabs.  accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 1:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE


 Hi Dipendra

 Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it yourself,
 while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup for most.

 What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an example

 which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.

 Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will
 automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good screen
 reader.

 Harish Kotian

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Dipendra Manocha
 Sent: 06 September 2013 12:47
 To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones and Tabs. '
 Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

 Review cursor is already always active.

 You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

 NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as NVDA
 calls it: inside the object.

 By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO
 EXACTLY
 WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

 WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN
 SIMPLY
 PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

 In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of
 actual
 mouse pointer.

 You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion
 pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

 With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual
 which
 describes all these featues very well.

 There are also audio tutorials 

Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread timy sebastian ettumanoor

thought to write another 2 bugs which I have found in nvda.

1. in windows 7 system, if we   use system tray script it will not working.

2. in thunderbird,  instead of saying blank, it saying line feed, that 
is unnessessary.


 hope our indian venters will solve the same.



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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi all,

Another podcast on NVDA's object navigation is at the direct mp3 URL
http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2012/20120428object%20nav.mp3

Pranav


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Re: [AI] team viewer problem, please help!

2013-09-06 Thread Bandi Sudhakar
hello can you tell  how to do confegure  and how to use

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 u can use on desktop.



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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Prashant Naik
Dear Friends,

Really a great revolution is coming up for us on screen reader front.

I am sure somebody soon will make specific podcast / recording but I
wish to share a webpage link
http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/podcasts.html where you can
find below two podcasts.  This will be useful for us to know about
review cursor, object navigation, etc. with laptop layout.

Podcast 1

The new NVDA laptop layout explained

If you use NVDA with a laptop, you will have to come to terms with the
fact that the laptop keystrokes for most popular functions have
changed in NVDA 2013.1. Paul Warner explains how approaching the new
layout in a particular way makes the new keystrokes easier to remember
and also shows how the Navigation Keys mode in vMouse provides an easy
solution to avoid having to remember any of the standard keyboard
shortcuts.

The new NVDA laptop layout explained - listen to the podcast - 12 Minutes audio.

Posted: 18 May 2013 (11.3Mb)

Podcast 2

Introducing vMouse for NVDA

Paul Warner demonstrates vMouse for NVDA, a PC application which makes
it easier to use the mouse with NVDA, provides a new interface for
using object navigation and the review cursor, and which also adds a
new text selection utility and the ability to create clickable
hotspots.

Listen to the vMouse for NVDA podcast - 77 Minutes audio.

Posted: 05 December 2012 (68.5Mb).

Best regards,

PRASHANT NAIK



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 please please someone creat a better audio tutorial for the same.

 waiting as the earliest.

 thanks in advance your friend,

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Re: [AI] team viewer problem, please help!

2013-09-06 Thread timy sebastian ettumanoor

u can use on desktop.



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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread bhawani shankar verma
better if such recording be done in hindi. in this way many non-technical 
people like me can understand NVDA better. in pakistan I found that they 
have recorded their tutorial in urdu.


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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE



Dear Friends,

Really a great revolution is coming up for us on screen reader front.

I am sure somebody soon will make specific podcast / recording but I
wish to share a webpage link
http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/podcasts.html where you can
find below two podcasts.  This will be useful for us to know about
review cursor, object navigation, etc. with laptop layout.

Podcast 1

The new NVDA laptop layout explained

If you use NVDA with a laptop, you will have to come to terms with the
fact that the laptop keystrokes for most popular functions have
changed in NVDA 2013.1. Paul Warner explains how approaching the new
layout in a particular way makes the new keystrokes easier to remember
and also shows how the Navigation Keys mode in vMouse provides an easy
solution to avoid having to remember any of the standard keyboard
shortcuts.

The new NVDA laptop layout explained - listen to the podcast - 12 Minutes 
audio.


Posted: 18 May 2013 (11.3Mb)

Podcast 2

Introducing vMouse for NVDA

Paul Warner demonstrates vMouse for NVDA, a PC application which makes
it easier to use the mouse with NVDA, provides a new interface for
using object navigation and the review cursor, and which also adds a
new text selection utility and the ability to create clickable
hotspots.

Listen to the vMouse for NVDA podcast - 77 Minutes audio.

Posted: 05 December 2012 (68.5Mb).

Best regards,

PRASHANT NAIK



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timys...@gmail.com wrote:

please please someone creat a better audio tutorial for the same.

waiting as the earliest.

thanks in advance your friend,

Timy.


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Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

2013-09-06 Thread Mr. Banker
Netbook is good option for your purpose, cost you 15k.


On 9/7/13, SYED IMRAN syed.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 I stand corrected - keys like page up, page down, end and home don't work
 in
 android and iOS. There is no option to move the cursor to the beginning /
 end of the editing document. There's no option to find a specific text or
 go
 to a specific page.



 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Kotian, H P
 Sent: 06 September 2013 13:10
 To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones
 and Tabs.
 Subject: Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

 Dear Dipendra

 I have got pretty good usability with the keyboard. You need to update the
 Talkback from the market for it.

 You use the 4 cursor keys, tab and the enter key.

 With these keys, one can comfortably move from one control to another and
 change its status.

 Although I run 4.0 usability is fine because of the USB keyboard.
 Harish Kotian.

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 Of Dipendra Manocha
 Sent: 06 September 2013 12:54
 To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
 phones and Tabs. '; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

 There is a completely different mode of operation when it comes to use of
 any android device.

 When we attach a keyboard, we will need to use the touch screen in same way
 as normal seeing persons use mouse in collaboration with keyboard.

 We are habitual in use of computer applications to do every thing with
 keyboard. Most apps on android are not to that llevel of keyboard support.

 There fore, for activating  commands and to reach to diferent parts of
 screen or to read text out we would depend on touch screen similar to what
 normal seeing persons keep doing every thin on the PC with the help of
 mouse.

 When ever we reach any edit field where we need to  key in text. We shift
 to
 attached keyboard. In this mode android is very usable.

 Although I am still not very satisfied with basic word processing app which
 is fully usable with screen reading software on android.

 IOS is doing much better on that front.

 Thanks
 Dipendra


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 Sent: 05 September 2013 21:11
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] LAPTOP / Tab

 laptop or tab wich is useful as a portable system for a blind, having
 mainly academical interest? facility to type Indian language should
 be also considered while advising me.

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Good suggestion. We should do this. 

We will try to do this through our team. How ever, if there are any members
who are intereste to contribute for this task, please do write to Mrs. Suman
sharma.

Thanks
Dipendra


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better if such recording be done in hindi. in this way many non-technical
people like me can understand NVDA better. in pakistan I found that they
have recorded their tutorial in urdu.

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 Dear Friends,

 Really a great revolution is coming up for us on screen reader front.

 I am sure somebody soon will make specific podcast / recording but I 
 wish to share a webpage link 
 http://www.vict-consultancy.co.uk/content/podcasts.html where you can 
 find below two podcasts.  This will be useful for us to know about 
 review cursor, object navigation, etc. with laptop layout.

 Podcast 1

 The new NVDA laptop layout explained

 If you use NVDA with a laptop, you will have to come to terms with the 
 fact that the laptop keystrokes for most popular functions have 
 changed in NVDA 2013.1. Paul Warner explains how approaching the new 
 layout in a particular way makes the new keystrokes easier to remember 
 and also shows how the Navigation Keys mode in vMouse provides an easy 
 solution to avoid having to remember any of the standard keyboard 
 shortcuts.

 The new NVDA laptop layout explained - listen to the podcast - 12 
 Minutes audio.

 Posted: 18 May 2013 (11.3Mb)

 Podcast 2

 Introducing vMouse for NVDA

 Paul Warner demonstrates vMouse for NVDA, a PC application which makes 
 it easier to use the mouse with NVDA, provides a new interface for 
 using object navigation and the review cursor, and which also adds a 
 new text selection utility and the ability to create clickable 
 hotspots.

 Listen to the vMouse for NVDA podcast - 77 Minutes audio.

 Posted: 05 December 2012 (68.5Mb).

 Best regards,

 PRASHANT NAIK



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 please please someone creat a better audio tutorial for the same.

 waiting as the earliest.

 thanks in advance your friend,

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Re: [AI] Wanted webside which converts pdf to text

2013-09-06 Thread Jyotsna
Hi,

Try this website to convert scanned documents into text.
http://www.onlineocr.net/

Thanks,
Jyotsna

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 When I tried with convertfiles.com to convert scanned documents, I
 need to select the output format. When I click the OCR/document
 format, it is connecting to ocronline.com website. From there, I am
 not able to convert the file..
 Can anyone guide me in this regard?
 Regards,
 Srinivas MVLES.

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 Yep, convertfiles.com is a very useful utility, it does have ocr feature
 too.

 On 9/4/13, Sinoj sinoj...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think www.convertfiles.com does have OCR feature. But you have to sign
 up

 for that.

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 To: sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
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 Hi,
 Nice discussion.
 Do we have any websites where we can convert emmage files to text or
 PDF formats?



 On 9/4/13, soloman s teachs...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello there,
  Send the file  as an attachment to:
  conv...@robobraille.org



  Also, try with

 Zamzar.com

 Thanks,
 Solomon.

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
NVDA does have another feature of add-ons.

There are several add-ons that have been contributed by different developers
round the globe. 

In version 2013.2 version of NVDA in the manage add-on dialogue box you do
have a link that takes you to the download page of the NVDA add-ons. There
is a specific add-on dealing with system tray. This is specifically for
persons who have come habitual of jaws script for system tray. This add-on
adds this system tray item listing feature to NVDA.

Else, from desktop, we can tab to systemtray itself. Here by using arrow
keys we can access all items of system tray and activate these. 

Regarding linefeed:

In document like MS word:

If we use up or down arrow in a document with blank lines, it does say
blank. If you use left or right arrow, it announces line-feed. Linefeed is
the character that symbolised an enter key press at that location. 

This in fact is an additional feature which I find to be very useful and
exactly the required behaviour.

Thanks
Dipendra




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thought to write another 2 bugs which I have found in nvda.

1. in windows 7 system, if we   use system tray script it will not working.

2. in thunderbird,  instead of saying blank, it saying line feed, that is
unnessessary.

  hope our indian venters will solve the same.



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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Our friend Pranav have actually authored a set of tutorials for using NVDA
with many different applications such as Open office, thunder bird, and all
the applications which are part of Samarth tools. These tutorials are part
of Samarth tools package. I will ask Saksham team to post these tutorials to
be downloadable separately and not just as part of complete Samarth tools. 

Samarth tools is a single installer of NVDA and host of applications which
are open source or free and work well with NVDA. This is a free download of
1.2 GB. You could request a DVD of the same from Saksham.

Thanks
Dipendra


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Hi all,

Another podcast on NVDA's object navigation is at the direct mp3 URL
http://www.cucat.org/class_notes/CaviCasts/2012/20120428object%20nav.mp3

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

2013-09-06 Thread Dipendra Manocha
Scripting is cool framework to enhance capabilities of jaws. How ever, it is
new language for many and to get jaws configured for speicif requirements,
we could hardly find people who could do jaws scripting.

With NVDA development team development, we are trying to create a pool of
knowledge resource that could help us deal with such situations. 

I hope once this project becomes a movement, more python developers would be
able to fix and address special configuration issues at much faster pace. 

I am amazed at the number of projects going on in India itself who try to
develop tools for blind for computers. If these teams become contributors to
NVDa project, we may end up having an army to deal with.

This may happen if as users we ask for NVDA when we come to providing
accessibility to computers. 

Thanks
Dipendra


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Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of NVDA
though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people have already
pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a difficult part. As
Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are not as complicated as they
might sound , but it is difficult to understand at first, particularly for a
Jaws user.
Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with Jaws
with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of work with
these applications, particularly the former without scripts but not that
well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they could integrate the
functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA as well, things could
become a lot better.
Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws function
of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames, particularly useful
when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to keep arrowing down in NVDA
and that is something I really don't like.
This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and go
from strength to strength.

On 9/6/13, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was also thinking of the same. A nice tutorial is necessary for us. 
 I listened to the tutorial available, but I could not get much of it. 
 I have nothing against the tutor, but the fact remains that we need a 
 better tutorial. Dependar sir is requestted to develop one such tutorial.
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 Hi Dipendra

 Although the steps in reality are really simple once you do it 
 yourself, while reading about it it seems something that is not my cup
for most.

 What I would suggest, is to make a small specific podcast with an 
 example

 which are carried out both in Jaws and NVDA for this specific task.

 Once folks get the concept of object navigation right they will 
 automatically get convinced about the utility of NVDA is a good 
 screen reader.

 Harish Kotian

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 Review cursor is already always active.

 You do not need to activate it as you do with jaws.

 NVDA+arrow keys moves review cursor in current selected frame or as 
 NVDA+NVDA
 calls it: inside the object.

 By increasing definition of frame to whole window, SAME COMMANDS DO 
 EXACTLY WHAT JAWS CURSOR IS DOING.

 WHEN YOU REACH ANY OF THE BUTTON WHICH NEED TO BE ACTIVATED, YOU CAN 
 SIMPLY PRESS NVDA+enter to activate the button under review cursor.

 In addition to this NVDA also provides audio feedback of movement of 
 actual mouse pointer.

 You can also route mouse pointer to review cursor or to the insersion 
 pointer. Then activate left or right mouse clicks.

 With these tips, I would encourage you to go through the user manual 
 which describes all these featues very well.

 There are also audio tutorials available for use of NVDA and link to 
 these can be found at nvaccess.org web site itself.

 Thanks
 Dipendra




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Re: [AI] team viewer problem, please help!

2013-09-06 Thread Shreedhar TS.
True, We can't control a machine over the teamviewer running win XP,
but surely we can control the machines having Win7. I have used this
many times, and found no issues using it. However, the internet
connection matters, and send sounds or audio Probably located in
teamviewer menubar, is usually enabled by default. However, I felt
menus in the teamviewer are not accessible PC cursor using the
standard Windows command and I used the jaws cursor to tackle this.
Perhaps this inaccessibility in menus is caused because I enabled the
option send key commands located in actions menu of the teamviewer.

On 9/6/13, Ajay Minocha ajayminoc...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello,
 1. make sure that internet connection is good enough.
 2. xp has some  known issues. I tried using one of my friend's laptop
 who had xp installed. But she had to take me on a Skype call because I
 couldn't hear any sound.
 3. please check that send sound or some thing similar named option is
 checked in your friend's computer.
 regards

 On 9/6/13, raju singh bidh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Respected sirs!



 I have been informed by some friends that if the remote computer has
 either
 jaws or NVDA installed, one can operate from his computer because of the
 sound of such screen reader. But today I've tried using my friend's
 netbook
 who is in kalkata and using NVDA as his screen reader, team viewer is
 also
 successfully configured, but there is no sound coming from his computer
 to
 my computer, therefore couldn't use his computer. First I thought that as
 I
 was using xp and he is using win 7, it might be the problem with the OS,
 but
 finally I also have check from my laptop  which has windows 7 loaded, but
 problem was the same. therefore  So if some one has the experience using
 teamviewer please provide step by step instruction that how one can
 configure teamviewer specially focusing on accessibility?

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[AI] FWD: All India Madanlal Khandelwal Braille Essay Competition

2013-09-06 Thread MUTHU Selvi
Dear Colleagues,
You may be aware that we had
announced All India Madanlal Khandelwal Essay Competition, 2013 in the month of
May and last date for receipt of Braille essays was given 31st August.
 Some of our friends have been
approaching us to extend the date and accordingly we are pleased to announce
that the date has been extended upto 15th September so that more
blind brothers and sisters in junior and senior groups could
participate.  You are therefore requested to inform the
interested persons in this regard on priority basis.
For your convenience we give below
the rules and regulations and topics for junior and senior groups and hope you
will motivate blind brothers and sisters to take part in the competition.

1.There
will be two groups of competitors—one Junior group up to the age of 25 years
and the second Senior group from the age of above 25 years.
2.The
participants can write on the following topics:

Junior group (Hindi): “Swarg mein sthit Louis
Braille ke naam ek patra.”
Junior group (English): “A letter to Louis
Braille in his heavenly abode.”

Senior group (Hindi): “Drishtibadhitaon ke
liye Riyaten—Samanta Ve Samaveshan ke liye khan tek Sarthak?”
Senior group (English): “Concessions for the
blind Vs. equality and inclusion.”


3.The
essay should be written by the blind participants in Hindi, English, Tamil,
Marathi and Kannada.
4.Essays
should be written in uncontracted Braille in Indian languages.   For
English, the essays should be written in
contracted Braille (grade-2).
5.Essays
should be written by Braille slate or Braille typewriter/Perkins
Brailler.  In no case should the essays be entered on
the computers and converted into Braille through a translation software.
6.Essays
should be written on one side of the sheet only and each page number should be
marked in continuation at the top right-hand corner.
7.Minimum
length of the essay for junior group
should be between 600-800 words and for senior group between 800-1000
words inclusive of applicant’s name, age, address phone No., topic of
the
essay.  The essays not written as
per the prescribed word limits shall not be included in the competition.
8.The
Competition has certificates and three cash prizes of Rs.  6000,  4,000
and 2,000 for junior group and Rs. 8000, 5000 and 3000 for senior group in each
language.  Thus, in each language there
shall be 6 cash prizes for the winners.
9.The
essays must be completely original in nature.
10.The essays in each
language shall be examined by reputed persons and their decision shall be final
and binding for all.
11.For determining the
best three entries in each language group the following shall be kept in mind:
  i.Content
ii.Language
and style
   iii.Braille
proficiency and neatness
12.On each envelope
language of the essay and junior or senior group should be mentioned.


With Kind Regards

J. L. Kaul
Secretary General
All India Confederation of the Blind
Mob: 9810684208
website: www.aicb.in




-- 
With Regards,
M Muthu Selvi,
Officer, Allahabad bank and Secretary, All India Confederation of the Blind.

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