Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Pallavi Sj
As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to remove
 this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking tool.

 other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
 unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to each
 other.


 - Original Message -
 From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Hi,
 I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
 still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
 queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
 the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
 earlier for the welfare of VI community.
 http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
 Thanks,
 Jyotsna


 On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these days,
 its giving wrong capcha as well...

 On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:
 I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jyotsna
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

 Hi all,
 Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through web
 visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
 second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
 error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
 well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
 confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
 same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
 visum or this trouble is only with my system.
 Reply awaited.

 Thanks inadvance,
 Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for VisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Vidhya Y
its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
impairment.

On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's camera to
 determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger in
 front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse rate.

 Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are reliable

 enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
 versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

 Regards,
 Siddhant


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 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
 VisuallyChallenged:

 Hi friends,
 we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
 Health).
 this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health of
 elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
 it includes developing technology solutions for various health issues.
 one of them is Visual impairment.
 as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
 readers, voice over etc,
 is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
 for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
 math accessibility etc.
 it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
 is software for health.

 Thanks and regards,
 Vidhya



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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software forVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any 
browser. And it must be free.


With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software 
forVisuallyChallenged:




its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
impairment.

On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's camera 
to

determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger in
front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse 
rate.


Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are 
reliable


enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

Regards,
Siddhant


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From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
VisuallyChallenged:


Hi friends,
we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
Health).
this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health of
elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
it includes developing technology solutions for various health issues.
one of them is Visual impairment.
as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
readers, voice over etc,
is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
math accessibility etc.
it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
is software for health.

Thanks and regards,
Vidhya



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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software forVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Kartik Sawhney
Try developing something like MathPlayer that could be supported
across multiple browsers and applications.

On 9/9/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any
 browser. And it must be free.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software
 forVisuallyChallenged:


 its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
 communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
 impairment.

 On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's camera
 to
 determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger in
 front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse
 rate.

 Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are
 reliable

 enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
 versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

 Regards,
 Siddhant


 --
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
 VisuallyChallenged:

 Hi friends,
 we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
 Health).
 this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health of
 elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
 it includes developing technology solutions for various health issues.
 one of them is Visual impairment.
 as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
 readers, voice over etc,
 is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
 for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
 math accessibility etc.
 it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
 is software for health.

 Thanks and regards,
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Re: [AI] Pl enjoy the article/interview

2014-09-09 Thread lovely grover
nice and beautiful story

On 9/9/14, Mangi Garg mangig...@gmail.com wrote:
 NICE STORY.

 On 9 September 2014 08:59, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:




 http://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/society/by-george/article6386248.ece



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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Jyotsna
Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:
 As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
 here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
 issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
 problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
 department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
 can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
 capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
 like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
 suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
 text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
 audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
 list will come up with better idea than me.

 On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to remove
 this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
 tool.

 other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
 unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to each
 other.


 - Original Message -
 From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Hi,
 I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
 still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
 queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
 the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
 earlier for the welfare of VI community.
 http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
 Thanks,
 Jyotsna


 On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these days,
 its giving wrong capcha as well...

 On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:
 I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jyotsna
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

 Hi all,
 Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through web
 visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
 second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
 error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
 well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
 confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
 same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
 visum or this trouble is only with my system.
 Reply awaited.

 Thanks inadvance,
 Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be 
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the inclusive 
planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but due to 
spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical captcha 
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which can 
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all challenging. 
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the OCR 
functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of 
characters .  and there had been another service which was human operative 
called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was human 
operative 21 Hrs service in a day.

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concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to 
remove

this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to 
each

other.


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From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
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concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these days,
its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:

I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

-Original Message-
From: Jyotsna
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi all,
Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through 
web

visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
visum or this trouble is only with my system.
Reply awaited.

Thanks inadvance,
Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software forVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Vidhya Y
any ideas for mobility?

On 9/9/14, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try developing something like MathPlayer that could be supported
 across multiple browsers and applications.

 On 9/9/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any
 browser. And it must be free.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software
 forVisuallyChallenged:


 its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
 communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
 impairment.

 On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's camera
 to
 determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger
 in
 front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse
 rate.

 Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are
 reliable

 enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
 versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

 Regards,
 Siddhant


 --
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
 VisuallyChallenged:

 Hi friends,
 we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
 Health).
 this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health of
 elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
 it includes developing technology solutions for various health issues.
 one of them is Visual impairment.
 as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
 readers, voice over etc,
 is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
 for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
 math accessibility etc.
 it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
 is software for health.

 Thanks and regards,
 Vidhya



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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing softwareforVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
there are many things for mobility.  so, exclusively we no need to develop 
anything newly.  what I feel is they have to be made accessible I mean 
present stuffs rather making/hosting new service.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:08 PM
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any ideas for mobility?

On 9/9/14, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:

Try developing something like MathPlayer that could be supported
across multiple browsers and applications.

On 9/9/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:

Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any
browser. And it must be free.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
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concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
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forVisuallyChallenged:



its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
impairment.

On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's 
camera

to
determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger
in
front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse
rate.

Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are
reliable

enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

Regards,
Siddhant


--
From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
VisuallyChallenged:


Hi friends,
we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
Health).
this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health 
of

elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
it includes developing technology solutions for various health 
issues.

one of them is Visual impairment.
as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
readers, voice over etc,
is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
math accessibility etc.
it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
is software for health.

Thanks and regards,
Vidhya



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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software forVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Kartik Sawhney
Hi,

Something that I'd been working on this past summer at IBM Research
involved the development of an Android app for indoor navigation
without the use of iBeacons, QR codes or other such infrastructure.
While we tweaked the project a bit later on and ended implementing an
indoor+outdoor navigator+OM trainer (using beacons though), you might
want to try it out without any such infrastructure.

Best,

On 9/9/14, Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com wrote:
 any ideas for mobility?

 On 9/9/14, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try developing something like MathPlayer that could be supported
 across multiple browsers and applications.

 On 9/9/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any
 browser. And it must be free.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software
 forVisuallyChallenged:


 its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
 communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
 impairment.

 On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's
 camera
 to
 determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger
 in
 front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse
 rate.

 Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are
 reliable

 enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
 versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

 Regards,
 Siddhant


 --
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
 VisuallyChallenged:

 Hi friends,
 we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
 Health).
 this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health
 of
 elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
 it includes developing technology solutions for various health
 issues.
 one of them is Visual impairment.
 as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
 readers, voice over etc,
 is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
 for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
 math accessibility etc.
 it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
 is software for health.

 Thanks and regards,
 Vidhya



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2014-09-09 Thread Surinder
Hi,

I have installed Windows7 Professional edition on my PC.
Could please someone guide me as to where can I find Note pad and System  
volume control in the start menu?

Thanks


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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Kartik Sawhney
While I agree completely with Sheik Sir in that bots can easily
perform mathematical computations, the questions could be made tricky,
rather silly, to ensure that only a human can respond correctly. For
instance, your father is your father, true or false? Of course,
there will have to be some algorithm to randomize questions.
Alternatively, we can employ an authentication process using E-mail
links pretty much the way it works for creating accounts.

Both section 508 and WCAG 2.0 (an international web accessibility
standard developed after consultations with thousands of disabled
computer scientists and users and web developers) allow captchas, so
approaching the Supreme Court to remove them doesn't make any sense.
Also, a security threat in the name of accessibility is probably not
the way to go forward.

Best,

On 9/9/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:
 impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
 very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the inclusive

 planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but due to

 spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical captcha
 had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which can
 perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all challenging.
 And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the OCR

 functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
 characters .  and there had been another service which was human operative
 called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was human
 operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
 --
 Regards,
 Shek Mohammad ali,
 Cisco systems
 - Original Message -
 From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Hi,
 I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
 removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
 contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
 captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
 humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
 petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
 him.

 Thanks,
 Jyotsna

 On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:
 As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
 here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
 issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
 problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
 department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
 can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
 capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
 like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
 suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
 text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
 audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
 list will come up with better idea than me.

 On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to
 remove
 this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
 tool.

 other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
 unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to
 each
 other.


 - Original Message -
 From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Hi,
 I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
 still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
 queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
 the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
 earlier for the welfare of VI community.
 http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
 Thanks,
 Jyotsna


 On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:
 Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these
 days,
 its giving wrong capcha as well...

 On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:
 I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jyotsna
 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

 Hi all,
 Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through
 web
 visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
 second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
 error:33. However I 

Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software forVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Sushmeetha
Vidya 

My suggestion is to develop an app which tells me about the shop and other
details within a Maul. 

Best Regards,
Sushmeetha B. Bubna │ Founder Director 
 
Voice Vision
103, Synthofine Estate,' A'- Wing, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai -
400 063.
Work Phone: +91 22 4040  │  Fax: +91 22 40400123  │  Hand Phone: +91
9820566010
Email:  sushmee...@voicevision.in  │  Web: www.voicevision.in
Facebook www.facebook.com/voicevisionfans

Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes
life meaningful.

Current Events: 

Read my blog on shopping experience with and without eyesight @ 
http://voicevision.in/content/shopping-experience-and-without-eyesight
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kartik Sawhney
Sent: 09 September 2014 15:14
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software
forVisuallyChallenged:

Hi,

Something that I'd been working on this past summer at IBM Research
involved the development of an Android app for indoor navigation
without the use of iBeacons, QR codes or other such infrastructure.
While we tweaked the project a bit later on and ended implementing an
indoor+outdoor navigator+OM trainer (using beacons though), you might
want to try it out without any such infrastructure.

Best,

On 9/9/14, Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com wrote:
 any ideas for mobility?

 On 9/9/14, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try developing something like MathPlayer that could be supported
 across multiple browsers and applications.

 On 9/9/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any
 browser. And it must be free.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software
 forVisuallyChallenged:


 its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
 communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
 impairment.

 On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's
 camera
 to
 determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger
 in
 front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse
 rate.

 Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are
 reliable

 enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
 versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

 Regards,
 Siddhant


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 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
 VisuallyChallenged:

 Hi friends,
 we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
 Health).
 this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health
 of
 elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
 it includes developing technology solutions for various health
 issues.
 one of them is Visual impairment.
 as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
 readers, voice over etc,
 is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
 for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
 math accessibility etc.
 it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
 is software for health.

 Thanks and regards,
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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software forVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Vidhya Y
In my Sixth Sem BCA, I had taken help from my tutor and managed to
develop  an APP on image processing.
there were many functionalities for the software like,
Quiz:
if the student clicks on the part of  the image and type the answer,
the  part of the image would have an icon turned to blue if the answer
is correct or else it would be red.
another functionality was to give information about different parts of
the image if the mouse is howered on it for example,
if there was an animal cell, if the mouse was on mitochondrea, there
would be discription power house of the cell etc.
the images could be added dynamically.
the user could add  any  university map or any image  instead of ianimal cell.
so moving the mouse on room number 34 would give discription as rest room etc.
mapping was done through another software and implemented in my
software with different  functionality.
I thought to use the same approach for indoor navigation using GPRS
with audio feedback.
for example if you are in front of the room number 111 it would speak
out the location.
and you can  use it for  any university by mapping the image using
external software.

in case this does not work out, I need your suggestions.
please take time to think about this because its going to be my
research topic and we all are going to benifit from it.

in case you get an idea please suggest me.
thankyou for your suggestions so far.


On 9/9/14, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Something that I'd been working on this past summer at IBM Research
 involved the development of an Android app for indoor navigation
 without the use of iBeacons, QR codes or other such infrastructure.
 While we tweaked the project a bit later on and ended implementing an
 indoor+outdoor navigator+OM trainer (using beacons though), you might
 want to try it out without any such infrastructure.

 Best,

 On 9/9/14, Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com wrote:
 any ideas for mobility?

 On 9/9/14, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try developing something like MathPlayer that could be supported
 across multiple browsers and applications.

 On 9/9/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any
 browser. And it must be free.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software
 forVisuallyChallenged:


 its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
 communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
 impairment.

 On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's
 camera
 to
 determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger
 in
 front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the
 pulse
 rate.

 Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are
 reliable

 enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
 versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

 Regards,
 Siddhant


 --
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
 VisuallyChallenged:

 Hi friends,
 we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
 Health).
 this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health
 of
 elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
 it includes developing technology solutions for various health
 issues.
 one of them is Visual impairment.
 as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
 readers, voice over etc,
 is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
 for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
 math accessibility etc.
 it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our
 focus
 is software for health.

 Thanks and regards,
 Vidhya



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Re: [AI] whether foxpro is accessible with screen readers?

2014-09-09 Thread rajendra dhurve
On 9/9/14, rajendra dhurve rd0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Can anybody tell, how to activate Jaws cursor in the Dell Laptop?

 Or what is the key stroke to activate jaws cursor in the maximum laptops?

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 Hi,

 I had used foxpro a long time ago. I suspect today, it would require
 extensive use of the jaws cursor.

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Re: [AI] whether foxpro is accessible with screen readers?

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
In laptop keyboard layout on any model, caps lock key is the jaws key by 
default.  it can be changed even.  caps lock +p activates the jaws cursor, 
capslock+leftbracket routes jaws cursor to the PC cursor. 
capslock+semicolon activates the PC cursor.
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Hi,
Can anybody tell, how to activate Jaws cursor in the Dell Laptop?

Or what is the key stroke to activate jaws cursor in the maximum laptops?

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Hi,

I had used foxpro a long time ago. I suspect today, it would require
extensive use of the jaws cursor.

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Re: [AI] (no subject)

2014-09-09 Thread meharaj shaik
for note pad, type notepad in surch box there you will get it.
for system sounds, go to system tray through insert f11.


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 I have installed Windows7 Professional edition on my PC.
 Could please someone guide me as to where can I find Note pad and System
 volume control in the start menu?

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Re: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks

2014-09-09 Thread rajendra dhurve
The very same problem I'm facing too! Bluestag doesn't speak anything.
the moment we click on the Blustag cursor. It simply shows the icons
on the screen but doesn't speak anything. if anybody knows about it,
so please come forward with ur expert advice.
Regards:
RD

On 9/5/14, Daphnie skinnybal...@gmail.com wrote:
 I got this message already.
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 Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:21 PM
 Subject: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks




 Dear Friends,

 I install BlueStacks in my windows 7 PC but I am not able to do anything.

 So
 Please Gide me

 Regards,

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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma

your answer true or false would be case sensative?
then what user has to do. only numeric solution is absolute solution.


-Original Message- 
From: Kartik Sawhney

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:32 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

While I agree completely with Sheik Sir in that bots can easily
perform mathematical computations, the questions could be made tricky,
rather silly, to ensure that only a human can respond correctly. For
instance, your father is your father, true or false? Of course,
there will have to be some algorithm to randomize questions.
Alternatively, we can employ an authentication process using E-mail
links pretty much the way it works for creating accounts.

Both section 508 and WCAG 2.0 (an international web accessibility
standard developed after consultations with thousands of disabled
computer scientists and users and web developers) allow captchas, so
approaching the Supreme Court to remove them doesn't make any sense.
Also, a security threat in the name of accessibility is probably not
the way to go forward.

Best,

On 9/9/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the 
inclusive


planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but due 
to


spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the 
OCR


functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human operative
called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was human
operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
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concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to
remove
this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to
each
other.


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concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these
days,
its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:

I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

-Original Message-
From: Jyotsna
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
To: accessindia

Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till my 
winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.



-Original Message- 
From: Sheik Mohammedali

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the inclusive
planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but due to
spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the OCR
functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human operative
called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was human
operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
- Original Message - 
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to 
remove

this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to 
each

other.


- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these days,
its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:

I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

-Original Message-
From: Jyotsna
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi all,
Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through 
web

visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
visum or this trouble is only with my system.
Reply awaited.

Thanks inadvance,
Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
no NGO will take any action against this, because the chief of NGOs are 
already having sighted assistance. also some of them don't know to operate 
computers. you would not be able to let them understand about this captcha. 
If you are really serious, file a petition against union of india in CCPD. 
and write a letter to the united nation.




-Original Message- 
From: Jyotsna

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to remove
this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to each
other.


- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these days,
its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:

I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

-Original Message-
From: Jyotsna
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi all,
Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through web
visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
visum or this trouble is only with my system.
Reply awaited.

Thanks inadvance,
Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
madam! audio challenge is not an absolute solution. better we should ask a 
direct question to authorities that can they read these captcha with blind 
folded eyes?
secondly, all the private concerns have been governed by any government 
authority. like trai for telecom rbi for banking and irda for insurance 
etc..



-Original Message- 
From: Pallavi Sj

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:13 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to remove
this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking 
tool.


other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to each
other.


- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these days,
its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:

I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

-Original Message-
From: Jyotsna
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi all,
Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through web
visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
visum or this trouble is only with my system.
Reply awaited.

Thanks inadvance,
Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] (no subject)

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
else under run type sndvol and press enter for volume control.  .  tip:  in 
the later versions of windows xp, in the start search box just type the 
initial letters of any item such as your aplications you will be focused.
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Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)



for note pad, type notepad in surch box there you will get it.
for system sounds, go to system tray through insert f11.


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Hi,

I have installed Windows7 Professional edition on my PC.
Could please someone guide me as to where can I find Note pad and System
volume control in the start menu?

Thanks


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[AI] Admision opened for computer training at Mitra Jyothi

2014-09-09 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
See the forwarded message below. If you know someone who does not have
computer knowledge and willing to spend three months at Bangalore,
then please spread the word.

Vetri.

Forwarded message --
 From: tony thomas t...@mitrajyothi.org
  Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:04:56 +0530
  Subject: Admissions open for Computer Training Program at Mitra Jyothi
  To: Surbhi Lohia surbhiloh...@gmail.com

  Career Centric Computer Training; Basic Computer Training for Visually
  Impaired by Mitra Jyothi

  This is an initiative from Mitra Jyothi team towards giving quality
  computer training for visually impaired people. Main goal of this
  course is to increase the candidate's knowledge on Computer Basics and
  making them efficient in using computers independently. This will
  increase the employment opportunities, betterment of existing job, and
  for higher studies.

  Contents
 *Keyboard orientation and Typing practice with software Talking Typer

 *Basics of Software, Hardware and Network

 *Introduction to Assistive technologies for visually impaired.

 *Basic concepts such as desktop, taskbar, menus, Editing,
  Dialog box, File/Folder management etc...

 *Screen readers, NVDA/JAWS settings and help

 *MS Word, MS Excel, MS PowerPoint and MS Outlook

 *Scanning, printing, CD burning etc...

 *Internet- Email, online chat, internet calling, social
  networking, reading websites, online file transfer etc...

 *Introduction to reading accessible books in DAISY format

  Material Used:

  1. Computers with
  a. Windows7 operating system and
  b. Office 2007,
  c. NVDA/JAWS
  d. Talking Typer
  2. Self-paced exercises for each concept.
  3. Test for final assessment.
  4. Designed Curriculum with computer concepts and employment aspects.
  5. Tactile Diagrams

  Mitra Jyothi team provides Communication Skills training
  Objectives:
 *Overcome the Fear of Public Speaking

 *Develop Effective Presentation Skills

 *Acquire Influential Communication Skills

 *Learn Influential Business Writing

 *Give Structure  Meaning to Presentations

 *Design Effective, Audience Captivating Presentations

 *Learn Business Etiquettes

  Course Details:-
 Duration : 3 Months
  Timings : 9:30AM - 5:00PM, Monday-Saturday
  Date : approx. mid-September 2014
  Seats : 15
  Place : Mitra Jyothi






On 05/09/2014, Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through web
 visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
 second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
 error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
 well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
 confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
 same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
 visum or this trouble is only with my system.
 Reply awaited.

 Thanks inadvance,
 Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility, what 
is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby you.
- Original Message - 
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till my 
winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.



-Original Message- 
From: Sheik Mohammedali

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the 
inclusive
planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but due 
to

spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the 
OCR

functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human operative
called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was human
operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
- Original Message - 
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to 
remove

this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to 
each

other.


- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:
Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these 
days,

its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:

I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

-Original Message-
From: Jyotsna
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi all,
Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through 
web

visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour 
as

well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the

Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
Hi Kartik,, again we need to invest lot of resources in every site where 
captchas are to be answered.  better if we have an exclusive service in 
order to make it availed universally just like webvisum.
- Original Message - 
From: Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



While I agree completely with Sheik Sir in that bots can easily
perform mathematical computations, the questions could be made tricky,
rather silly, to ensure that only a human can respond correctly. For
instance, your father is your father, true or false? Of course,
there will have to be some algorithm to randomize questions.
Alternatively, we can employ an authentication process using E-mail
links pretty much the way it works for creating accounts.

Both section 508 and WCAG 2.0 (an international web accessibility
standard developed after consultations with thousands of disabled
computer scientists and users and web developers) allow captchas, so
approaching the Supreme Court to remove them doesn't make any sense.
Also, a security threat in the name of accessibility is probably not
the way to go forward.

Best,

On 9/9/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the 
inclusive


planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but due 
to


spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical 
captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which 
can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all 
challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the 
OCR


functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human 
operative

called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was human
operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to
remove
this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to
each
other.


- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should 
resolve

the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these
days,
its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:
I am also facing the same 

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2014-09-09 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
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Administrative Officer in Export-Import Bank of India, Mumbai.
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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
obviously!  this is bitter truth that no NGOs will take such initiatives 
since most of them are lacking in resource management.  and they will not 
involve in these unless they get benefitted.  Only they require funding. 
but before we could take such initiatives let us form a world-wide selution 
then only it can be implemented.  when you mean the captcha it is the 
challenge which can  only be answered by human.  may be in any form whether 
audio or image.  but removing the entire captcha system is not acceptable 
right?
--- Original Message - 
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


no NGO will take any action against this, because the chief of NGOs are 
already having sighted assistance. also some of them don't know to operate 
computers. you would not be able to let them understand about this 
captcha. If you are really serious, file a petition against union of india 
in CCPD. and write a letter to the united nation.




-Original Message- 
From: Jyotsna

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

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As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to 
remove

this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to 
each

other.


- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
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concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should resolve
the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus
Thanks,
Jyotsna


On 9/8/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

Moreover, for few websites, webvisum is not at all working these days,
its giving wrong capcha as well...

On 9/6/14, Rohiet A. Patil patil_ro...@dataone.in wrote:

I am also facing the same problem. Any thing rong with there server?

-Original Message-
From: Jyotsna
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:58 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Web visum problem

Hi all,
Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through 
web

visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
visum or this trouble is only with my system.
Reply awaited.

Thanks inadvance,
Jyotsna.



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Re: [AI] whether foxpro is accessible with screen readers?

2014-09-09 Thread Raaju
Hello, can we write and compile sql language on foxpro? If no, then please 
suggest any accessible compilar for sql language, i am desprately searching 
from several month. Please!  
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Sent:  09/09/2014, 4:14  pm
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Hi,
Can anybody tell, how to activate Jaws cursor in the Dell Laptop?

Or what is the key stroke to activate jaws cursor in the maximum laptops?

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 I had used foxpro a long time ago. I suspect today, it would require
 extensive use of the jaws cursor.

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Re: [AI] Audio version of The Other Senses

2014-09-09 Thread r balireddy
hellow mam there is no link

On 8/19/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Hello Friends,

 My autobiography named 'The Other Senses' is now available in MP 3 format
 on
 line as well as audio CD. In case you are interested in   reading the same
 please do avail the same from the link below:

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 (Available in flipkart and other ecommerce websites and some book stores)
 and Digital download (the user can purchase the audiobook and download it
 directly to his system).

 Digital download is at :

 www.reado.com

 Please do share this information with your friends and contacts as well.
 Warmly
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Re: [AI] Pl enjoy the article/interview

2014-09-09 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
paste the text, please

On 9/9/14, lovely grover lovelygrove...@gmail.com wrote:
 nice and beautiful story

 On 9/9/14, Mangi Garg mangig...@gmail.com wrote:
 NICE STORY.

 On 9 September 2014 08:59, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:




 http://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/society/by-george/article6386248.ece



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Re: [AI] Audio version of The Other Senses

2014-09-09 Thread mahendra

i think, you need to buy the book from web link given.
At 01:48 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:

hellow mam there is no link

On 8/19/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote:
 Hello Friends,

 My autobiography named 'The Other Senses' is now available in MP 3 format
 on
 line as well as audio CD. In case you are interested in   reading the same
 please do avail the same from the link below:

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 (Available in flipkart and other ecommerce websites and some book stores)
 and Digital download (the user can purchase the audiobook and download it
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 Digital download is at :

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Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software forVisuallyChallenged:

2014-09-09 Thread Gufran
I think they should work on korency identification service. Something like 
similar to can find or looktel money reader.


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On September 9, 2014 3:08:56 PM Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com wrote:


any ideas for mobility?

On 9/9/14, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try developing something like MathPlayer that could be supported
 across multiple browsers and applications.

 On 9/9/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ask them to develop an alternative for webvisum which we can use on any
 browser. And it must be free.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software
 forVisuallyChallenged:


 its a good Idea but I am focusing on   technology for
 communication/entertainment/mobility/education specific to  visual
 impairment.

 On 9/9/14, sidnc1986_gmail sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember hearing about an app on Android that uses the phone's camera
 to
 determine the pulse rate of an individual. If he/she holds the finger
 in
 front of the camera, the app scans the finger and determines the pulse
 rate.

 Firstly, I don't know whether these apps are reliable. If they are
 reliable

 enough for emergencies, then I don't know whether are any accessible
 versions out there. This can be useful as far as health is concerned.

 Regards,
 Siddhant


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 From: Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in; sayeverything
 sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org
 Subject: [AI] Suggestions required for developing software for
 VisuallyChallenged:

 Hi friends,
 we have thought of a topic for research called E health(Electronic
 Health).
 this includes various sub topics like health of women/girls, health of
 elderly people, general disabilities and visual impairement.
 it includes developing technology solutions for various health issues.
 one of them is Visual impairment.
 as we all know of the many technologies for the blind like  screen
 readers, voice over etc,
 is there any thing that you would like me to consider?
 for example mobile apps for indoor navigation,  apps or software for
 math accessibility etc.
 it would be good if you can suggest me any software because our focus
 is software for health.

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Re: [AI] What is the process of getting account on bookshare?

2014-09-09 Thread sanjay
If you are residing in western region, contact XRCVCIf you are in north,
contact NAB Delhi  for South Indians, contact WorthTrust.   

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Subject: [AI] What is the process of getting account on bookshare?

Respecteds and friends,
as the subject line suggests, i want to join bookshare account. So please
guide me about the procedure of doing the same. Your help is highly
appreciated. Thanks in anticipation.
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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number, expiry 
date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this captcha 
is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the image and 
my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please don't 
suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically I am 
absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for intelligent 
solution.
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From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility, 
what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby you.
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From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till my 
winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.



-Original Message- 
From: Sheik Mohammedali

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the 
inclusive
planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but due 
to
spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical 
captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which 
can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all 
challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the 
OCR

functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human 
operative

called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was human
operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
- Original Message - 
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to 
remove

this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to 
each

other.


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From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I have reported the issue to Web visum technical team yesterday but
still problem persists. Other web visum users can also write their
queries on the link pasted below so that web visum team should 
resolve

the error on priority basis and continue their smooth services as
earlier for the welfare of VI community.
http://www.webvisum.com/en/main/contactus

Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
webvisum does not work everywhere. I am to pay 20 to 30 taxx payment daily, 
should I call my sighted colleague to see the image, or depend on webvisum. 
it only provide 20 solutions in a day. and sometimes its server goes down. 
we have already discuss a lot regarding this captcha on this list and got no 
result. After 10-15 days this topic would also be closed without any 
conclusive result.
- Original Message - 
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


Hi Kartik,, again we need to invest lot of resources in every site where 
captchas are to be answered.  better if we have an exclusive service in 
order to make it availed universally just like webvisum.
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From: Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



While I agree completely with Sheik Sir in that bots can easily
perform mathematical computations, the questions could be made tricky,
rather silly, to ensure that only a human can respond correctly. For
instance, your father is your father, true or false? Of course,
there will have to be some algorithm to randomize questions.
Alternatively, we can employ an authentication process using E-mail
links pretty much the way it works for creating accounts.

Both section 508 and WCAG 2.0 (an international web accessibility
standard developed after consultations with thousands of disabled
computer scientists and users and web developers) allow captchas, so
approaching the Supreme Court to remove them doesn't make any sense.
Also, a security threat in the name of accessibility is probably not
the way to go forward.

Best,

On 9/9/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote:

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the 
inclusive


planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but 
due to


spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical 
captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which 
can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all 
challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the 
OCR


functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human 
operative
called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was 
human

operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

my concern is that we must file a petition in the supreme court to
remove
this captcha. as per the IT act, webvisum can be defined as a hacking
tool.

other than captcha, what is the purpose of webvisum?
unfortunately nobody is joining this mission, we are just talking to
each
other.


- Original Message -
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 08, 

Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Sheik Mohammedali
Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at least, 
an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.  and they 
are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the same manner.  O 
no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my views 
comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job 
exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical 
questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking part 
in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do they have 
to say on this.
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From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number, expiry 
date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this 
captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the image 
and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please 
don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically I 
am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for intelligent 
solution.
- Original Message - 
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility, 
what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby you.
- Original Message - 
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till my 
winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.



-Original Message- 
From: Sheik Mohammedali

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerning thedisabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the 
inclusive
planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but 
due to
spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical 
captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which 
can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all 
challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use the 
OCR

functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human 
operative
called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was 
human

operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
- Original Message - 
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out this
issue by reporting to the concerned department. However, if the
problem persists in a government, v can file a bug in the concerned
department. But, there are many more privately held websites, those
can't be even accessed at a very basic level without solving the
capcha. Moreover, few websites even don't allow such hacking add ons
like webvisum... So, it is required for a complete change by
suggesting a better idea instead of capcha or to give the capcha in
text along with the grey image or it should be made mandetory to add
audio challenge for all the websites. Hope the other experts on this
list will come up with better idea than me.

On 9/9/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
my concern is that we must file 

Re: [AI] Regarding Accounting Software

2014-09-09 Thread jitesh jain
hi friends hope all are doing well i am  jitesh jain

i also need the same software
warm regards


On 9/9/14, sana samad sanasamad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hai members I am happy to know that finally there is an accounting
 software which is fully accessable. I am pursuing B-com(hon) so I am
 eager to learn how to use that software. Please give me full details
 about it and from where can I download it. It can serve as a great
 help for us in future. I hope that you will reply to my mail ASAP.
  Regards
Sana Samad
 Phone No.- 9899467078
 Email Id: sanasamad...@gmail.com
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[AI] A survey regarding disability

2014-09-09 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
Hi all,
One of my friend is doing some research on the disabled, and hence she
has prepared a survey for the disabled.
I request you all to please fill it.
It hardly takes 5 minuts.
The link is:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/YHQ8MCP
Thanks,
-- 
Avichal bhatnagar



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[AI] Require contact detail

2014-09-09 Thread Milan
Hello Access Indians,
Can anybody plz provide me contact details of Mr. Vikas Gupta. He is
from Pascheem Vihar New Delhi.

-- 
Thanks and regards,
Milan Mittal
Prop. CM Corporate
Phone - +919910043004
Email ID - milan.mit...@yahoo.com
Skype - milan.mittal



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Re: [AI] Regarding Accounting Software

2014-09-09 Thread Vemuri Tejaswi
hi i also nead the same software

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:49 PM, jitesh jain jiteshja...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi friends hope all are doing well i am  jitesh jain

 i also need the same software
 warm regards


 On 9/9/14, sana samad sanasamad...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hai members I am happy to know that finally there is an accounting
  software which is fully accessable. I am pursuing B-com(hon) so I am
  eager to learn how to use that software. Please give me full details
  about it and from where can I download it. It can serve as a great
  help for us in future. I hope that you will reply to my mail ASAP.
   Regards
 Sana Samad
  Phone No.- 9899467078
  Email Id: sanasamad...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Accounting software for vision impaired

2014-09-09 Thread Milan
Hello,
Here is the link to download this software -
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23855369/ecm.zip
I am not getting much time to check its accessability and other
issues. Will keep updating regarding the same as I get time.

On 9/6/14, Arvind Bhartiya arvind.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Milan,
 The accounting softwares are basically same across geographies.
 What they probably mean is that it is pre geared to handle tax in
 specific countries.
 Like GST and vat in  different states  in the US.
 These parameters are mostly variables and can be set and customised.
 What is really important is the accessibility.
 They have a free trial download and that can answer  a  lot of questions.
 Do keep us updated.
 regards
 Arvind Bhartiya

 On 9/6/14, Milan milan.mit...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Arvind Sir,
 I checked the link. It says that this software is for United States,
 Australia and New Zealand users only. I have mailed the company for
 details in relation to Indian users.
 I have tried Busy V12 and it is accessable with Jaws cursor to some
 extent.
 On 7 May, 2013, Tally informed CCPD that there new version will have
 necessary support for various screen readers like JAWS and NVDA but no
 improvements have been seen regarding the same.

 On 9/5/14, Arvind Bhartiya arvind.bhart...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 There is a  fully accessable accounting software  for the visually
 impaired,  known as
 Cash Manager.
 Below is the link
 http://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/05/prweb3965014.htm

 They claim it is fully accessable  with screen readers.
 I  haven't tried it yet but would be intrested in knowing the
 experience of users.
 regards
 Arvind Bhartiya

 On 9/4/14, ashishsingl...@gmail.com ashishsingl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys, I have never used telly but if you need any help in developing
 a
 basic template  in MS-Excel then I can help. You can call me between 7
 and
 9
  in the evening.

 Regards
 Ashish
 09814212334

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 04-Sep-2014, at 9:49 am, 'Avneesh Singh' via Retina India Connect
 
 rpp-in...@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Quite right
 , the JAWS scripts work till Tally 7.2. I was in the team that
 developed
 these in 2005.
 There is technical limitation in Tally, it does not expose information
 through accessibility API. So, JAWS scripts can help to an extent, but
 cannot make it as accessible as MS Excel.
 At that time, we explained the Tally developers how they can make some
 changes in their code to make it accessible. Initially they agreed but
 after some months they stopped working on these improvements.

 I am not aware if further development on this subject took place after
 that. A couple of people contacted me for guidance, they wanted to
 take
 it
 forward. But I have not heard anything after that.

 Busywin is a better option than Tally on accessibility terms. The only
 problem is that it is not so popular among accountants, so people fine
 it
 difficult to find accountants who want to learn it and use it.

 with regards
 Avneesh

 -Original Message- From: Sunil Sangtani.
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:11 AM
 To: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: {Retina India Connect} guidance required

 hi,
 the jaws scripts for tally is only available till 7.2.
 busy win version 12 is one such software that is somewhat useable with
 jaws.
 the good thing of it that it supports the tally's files also, so you
 can try the demo and can go for it if you like it.
 the edit boxs can be labeled in the busy and rest things are readable
 with jaws cursor.
 do try, might help.


 On 9/3/14, Puneet Goenka handicrafts.goe...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks sir for the info.
 regards
 puneet goenka
 - Original Message -
 From: Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com
 To: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 8:23 PM
 Subject: RE: {Retina India Connect} guidance required


 Saksham did make jaws scripts for tally so write to i...@saksham.org

 -Original Message-
 From: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rpp-in...@googlegroups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Aditya Agarwal
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 12:17 PM
 To: rpp-in...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: {Retina India Connect} guidance required

 Hi Puneet, I am into business of ceramic tiles. Even I have tried
 using Tally with jaws but it doesnt work. I use excel for all my
 accounts and there is no other option but to post all entries
 separately in all ledgers. Someone told me that we can personalise
 excel also in such a way that all the contra entries will be posted
 automatically. But we need professional assistance to design excel
 according to our needs.

 On 9/2/14, Puneet Goenka handicrafts.goe...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks vamshi for the reply
 though i have never used xl, but what i understand it would help me
 in
 calculations. but the major point of concern is that if any trading
 software

 is available for me then it would help me in synchronising data
 such
 as
 the

 purchase bills and 

Re: [AI] Outlook Express Help!

2014-09-09 Thread gopi t k
 friends please  give step by step instruction forconfig outlookk 
express in window seven

by gopi t k
On 9/6/2014 6:47 PM, Daphnie wrote:

same here with outlook express with windows7 and of course MSOffice2007.
- Original Message - From: P. Subramani 
subramani6...@gmail.com
To: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com; geethas2...@gmail.com; 
AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility andissuesconcerning 
the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Outlook Express Help!


Re: [AI] Outlook Express Help!It seems that the problem is with 
office 2007, there's no option other than french under the 
tools/options spelling tab, thanks for your suggestions

 - Original Message -  From: Amiyo Biswas
 To: geethas2...@gmail.com ; AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.

 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Outlook Express Help!


 If you install ms office 2007, this problem may occur. i don't exactly
 remember how I solved it. Try changing the language on the spelling 
tab of
 options submenu under the tools menu. It is a simple combo box for 
six or

 seven languages.

 A solucion for this problem was offered by someone on this list a 
few years
 back. Unfortunately, I did not save the message. You may search our 
archive.


 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Geetha Shamanna geethas2...@gmail.com
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Outlook Express Help!


  Hi Subramani,
 
  I don't use Outlook Express anymore; but if you have installed the 
English
  version of Windows, English should be the default option. Have you 
tried

  using the spellchecker without changing any settings? If this doesn't
  work,
  you will have to install additional languages manually from the 
Windows XP

  CD.
 
  Geetha
  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  Behalf
  Of P. Subramani
  Sent: 03 September 2014 17:35
  To: AccessIndia
  Subject: [AI] Outlook Express Help!
 
  I am using OE6, win XP SP3, in options, spelling tab, under languages
  combo
  box, I am getting the only option of French in  my office machine,
  whereas,
  in my home PC, I am getting options of 7 languages including 
english. So

  how
  to get the english option in my office machine? kindly advise. 
Thanks and

  regards, P. Subramani
 
 
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Re: [AI] Audio version of The Other Senses

2014-09-09 Thread Yogesh Chhabra
dear all, for your convenience, here is the uploaded file of the above
mentioned book. visit the link below to download.

download:
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/6142940/file.html

it is a daisy format (audio )of the book.

warm regards,

Yogesh Chhabra

On 9/9/14, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
 i think, you need to buy the book from web link given.
 At 01:48 PM 9/9/2014, you wrote:
hellow mam there is no link

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  Hello Friends,
 
  My autobiography named 'The Other Senses' is now available in MP 3
  format
  on
  line as well as audio CD. In case you are interested in   reading the
  same
  please do avail the same from the link below:
 
  audiobook The Other Senses is available in two formats; Physical CD
  (Available in flipkart and other ecommerce websites and some book
  stores)
  and Digital download (the user can purchase the audiobook and download
  it
  directly to his system).
 
  Digital download is at :
 
  www.reado.com
 
  Please do share this information with your friends and contacts as
  well.
  Warmly
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[AI] Apple Officially Announces iPhone 6!!!!!

2014-09-09 Thread Rahul Gambhir
Hello Folks,

Apple finally unveiled two new smartphones - iPhone 6 and iPhone 6
Plus - and a new smartwatch simply called Apple Watch.

Source: 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/mobiles/Apple-unveils-bigger-iPhone-6-6-Plus-smartwatch/articleshow/42118241.cms?

Article Begins
Apple on Tuesday did not surprise its admirers. As expected, the
iconic company unveiled two new smartphones - iPhone 6 and iPhone 6
Plus - and a new smartwatch simply called Apple Watch at a function in
San Francisco, US.

 iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are the thinnest ever Apple has ever made. iPhone
5S and 5 are 7.6mm thick, but iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are even thinner at
6.8mm and 7.1mm respectively. These are, of course, not the thinnest
smartphones globally, as that title lies with Gionee's Elife S5.5 with
thickness of 5.5mm.

 The two phones finally take Apple to the big-screen smartphone
segment, sporting 4.7- and 5.5-inch screens respectively. Apple has
increased the pixel density of the two smartphones, with the smaller
one having 38% more pixels at 1334x750p resolution and iPhone 6 Plus
sporting 185% more pixels with screen resolution of 1920x1080p.

 Apple is calling the new display panels Retina HD, a new generation
of iPhone screens. These LCD panels feature ion strengthened glass,
but there has been no word on the long-rumoured sapphire glass panel
yet.

 Powered by the new A8 processor, iPhone 6 is up to 50% more energy
efficient, so you can have higher sustained performance. The 64-bit
CPU architecture-based A8 processor is 20% faster in application
processing and 50% faster in rendering graphics compared to its
predecessor. It is able to sustain performance-intensive tasks like
playing a game at higher frame rates. The power button is on the side
now.

 The two iPhone 6 models sport an 8MP iSight camera that features
phase detection. Despite no increase in camera resolution, iPhone 6
takes 43MP panorama photos. And like many rivals , including Samsung
Galaxy Note 4 and S5, HTC One (M8) and LG G3, iPhone 6 and 6 Plus
features optical image stabilization for blur-free photos and videos.


 The new generation of iPhones is also the thinnest smartphones Apple
has ever made. iPhone 5S and 5 were 7.6mm thick, but iPhone 6 and 6
Plus are even thinner at 6.8mm and 7.1mm, respectively. These are, of
course, not the thinnest smartphones, as that title lies with Gionee's
Elife S5.5 with thickness of 5.5mm.
 The Power button in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus is on the side. It
features a barometer sensor that can measure relative elevation.
 The new iPhones support landscape mode. Apple also unveiled its own
take on single-handed operation mode, wherein touching the Home button
quickly will shrink down the whole display area such that the buttons
on the top can be accessed easily.

 The battery life of iPhone 6 and 6 Plus is relatively better than
that of iPhone 5S. iPhone 6 will deliver 3G talk time of 14 hours and
run 10 hours if the user is browsing the internet on 3G and 4G
networks. The bigger model, iPhone 6 Plus, will offer 3G talk time of
24 hours and 12 hours of web browsing on 3G and 4G.

 Apple has scrapped the 32GB variant with iPhone 6, which now comes in
16, 64 and 128GB options. In the US market, where telecom carriers
provide subsidies on smartphones, the two models — iPhone 6 and 6 Plus
— will be available for $199, $299 and $399 respectively, on a
two-year contract. As rumoured, iPhone 6 Plus will be a $100 more
expensive for each storage variant compared to iPhone 6.

 iPhone 5S will now cost $99 on a two-year contract, while iPhone 5C is free.
 Apple also ventured into the world of mobile payments with a new
feature called Apple Pay. The new iPhones will have secure chips with
NFC capability, and what's best you can take a picture of your credit
card and keep it. The iPhone maker announced it has already tied up
with as many as 22,000 retailers for Apple Pay, including Macy's,
Bloomingdales, Wallgreens, Duane Reade, Subway and McDonalds.

 Calling it a very key day for Apple in his opening remarks, Cook
did not go further into detailing any numbers and adoption figures and
announced the new iPhones straightaway.













Apple on Tuesday did not surprise its admirers. As expected, the
iconic company unveiled two new smartphones - iPhone 6 and iPhone 6
Plus - and a new smartwatch simply called Apple Watch at a function in
San Francisco, US.

 iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are the thinnest ever Apple has ever made. iPhone
5S and 5 are 7.6mm thick, but iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are even thinner at
6.8mm and 7.1mm respectively. These are, of course, not the thinnest
smartphones globally, as that title lies with Gionee's Elife S5.5 with
thickness of 5.5mm.

 The two phones finally take Apple to the big-screen smartphone
segment, sporting 4.7- and 5.5-inch screens respectively. Apple has
increased the pixel density of the two smartphones, with the smaller
one having 38% more pixels at 1334x750p resolution and iPhone 6 Plus
sporting 185% 

[AI] Hi, my dear great friends Its me. mangal singh verma I have recently joinde this mailing list. feeling glad to joine this mailing list Here is My full Introduction

2014-09-09 Thread MANGALSINGHVERMA
-- 
MUSIC IS MY LIFE...





HI,
 MY DEAR GREAT FRIENDS, I WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU.
I AM VISUALLY CHALLENGED PERSON.
BORN IN ORAI, UTTAR PRADESH, INDIA
 I AM A VERY SIMPLE,  UNDERSTANDING  BOY WHO CHERISH ,HONESTY,
TOLERANCE , LOVE ,  CALM, JOYFUL, HONEST, SOCIABLE, INTELLIGENT,
ROMANTIC,   COOL, DECENT, LOVING, CARING, EMMOTIONAL, TALKATIVE,
NAUGHTY, LITTLE BIT SMART, KINDTENDER.


 I TRULY RESPECT INDIAN TRADITION, CULTURE AND RITUALS.
 I BELIEVE IN HARD WORK, SMART WORK, HONESTY, LOVING PAYING RESPECT TO ELDERS.
 I OWE RESPECT FOR MY ELDERS AND UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY TOWARDS FAMILY.
 I AM VERY DOWN TO EARTH  UNDERSTAND THE ETHICAL AND MORAL VALUES.
 MY PARENTS NURTURED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IN ADAPTABLE IN ANY SITUATION.
 I AM RELIGIOUS AS WELL.
 I AM FOND OF SINGING I CAN SING GHAZAL, QAWALI, BHAJAN, OLD SEMI
CLASSICAL SONGS, SOFT ROMANTIC NEW SONGS INDIAN CLASSICAL VOCAL.
 I CAN PLAY HARMONIYAM SYNTHESIZERTANPURA AS WELL.
  I WANT TO BE A GREAT SUCCESS  MUSICIAN IN MY LIFE.
MY INITIALY EDUCATION HAD BEEN STARTED IN BLIND SCHOOL IN 1997.
 AFTER THAT HIGH SCHOOL  INTER MEDIATE I HAVE COMPLETED WITH ART SIDE
FROM CBSE BOARD, DELHI INDIA.
MY GRADUATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED IN INDIAN CLASSICAL MUSIC VOCAL FROM
UNIVERSITY OF DELHI. MY POST GRADUATION WITH INDIAN CLASSICAL MUSIC
VOCAL HAS BEEN COMPLETED  FROM UNIVERSITY OF DELHI.
 I HAVE ALSO COMPLETED DEGREE OF PRABHAKAR IN MUSIC FROM PRAYAG
SANGEET SAMITI ALLAHABAD UTTAR PRADESH.
I HAVE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN VARIOUS SINGING COMPETITIONS  I GOT MANY
PRIZES FROM MANY PLACES.
 I LOVE THOSE PEOPLE IETHER WHO LOVE MUSIC OR THEY SHOULD BE PART OF
ANY KIND OF THE MUSIC. APART OF THIS
 I LIKE SMELL, FLOWERS RIVERS, MOUNTAINS, HAVING REST ON NATURE,
MEETING WITH FRIENDS,   NATURAL THINGS AND SIMPLI CITY LIFE.
 WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A PART OF MY FRIEND SHIP? IF YES,
TO BECOME MY FRIEND/BEST FRIEND YOU MAY SEARCH ME ON SKYPE, FACEBOOK,
ORKUT, TWITTER.COM
 MY EMAIL ID:mangalsinghve...@gmail.com
 YOU MAY ALSO CALL ME ON THIS MO.NOS: +91-9968214451/+91-9313873793.
 I AM WAITING TO YOU ALL, TILL THEN THINK POSITIVE AND BE POSITIVE
KEEP SHINING AND SMILING ALWAYS ON YOUR FACE.
HAVE A GREAT DAY.
YOUR, ONLY, YOURS MANGAL/ {TUES}



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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are 
saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus 
upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of values 
are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry date, 
cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of captcha 
their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.


- Original Message - 
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at 
least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately. 
and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the same 
manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my 
views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job 
exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical 
questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking 
part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do 
they have to say on this.
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From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number, expiry 
date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this 
captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the image 
and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please 
don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically I 
am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for 
intelligent solution.
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From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility, 
what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby 
you.
- Original Message - 
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till 
my winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.



-Original Message- 
From: Sheik Mohammedali

Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerning thedisabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can 
be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the 
inclusive
planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but 
due to
spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical 
captcha
had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which 
can
perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all 
challenging.
And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use 
the OCR

functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
characters .  and there had been another service which was human 
operative
called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was 
human

operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
--
Regards,
Shek Mohammad ali,
Cisco systems
- Original Message - 
From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi,
I myself and hope entire VI community is ready to join this captcha
removal mission as this is a big hurdle in independent use of web
contents for us. Even I don't feel comfortable in understanding audio
captcha. Best alternative of captcha is mathematical questions. Its my
humble request to some active member or NGO to take initiative to file
petition in supreme court and entire community will definitely support
him.

Thanks,
Jyotsna

On 9/9/14, Pallavi Sj sj.pallav...@gmail.com wrote:

As per my opinion, Bhavani is absolutely right. As a note to inform
here, few of our access india friends are also trying to sort out 
this

issue 

Re: [AI] Audio version of The Other Senses

2014-09-09 Thread Preeti Monga
The publisher is Reado Publishers. So their link is here:

www.reado.com

In case you are looking for the book in Dazy format:
Please get it from NAB Delhi. They have recorded the same in Dazy format.
Call their helpline and they can send it to you. I will also once again try
to ask them as well.
Warmly
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
Dear Bhawani,

We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is
necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to
except it.

For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any
features / measures which are vital to the website because they are
inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify
the website administrators about it and suggest them for other
alternatives.

I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen.
The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If
you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views
regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your
point.

Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed
on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website.

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are
 saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus
 upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of values

 are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry date,
 cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of captcha

 their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
 thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at
 least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.
 and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the same

 manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my
 views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job
 exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical
 questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking
 part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do
 they have to say on this.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning

 thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number, expiry

 date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
 I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this
 captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
 and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the image

 and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please
 don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically I

 am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for
 intelligent solution.
 - Original Message -
 From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility,
 what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby
 you.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till
 my winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.


 -Original Message-
 From: Sheik Mohammedali
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

 impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can
 be
 very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the
 inclusive
 planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but
 due to
 spammers a kind of captcha was necessary there.  then mathamatical
 captcha
 had been implemented but no use.  bots are the computer programs which

 can
 perform these things automated.  so calculation is not at all
 challenging.
 And Bhavani Shankar, how can be the webvisum hacking tool?  they use
 the OCR
 functionality to resolve these captchas since there will be couple of
 characters .  and there had been another service which was human
 operative
 called solona.  i'm not sure currently it is active or not.  it was
 human
 operative 21 Hrs service in a day.
 --
 

[AI] Remedy required to rectify Run time error in PDF

2014-09-09 Thread Radha
People,

Facing a  strange problem with PDF files, after few minutes of use, a
error is thrown as run time. What might the cause behind it?
Pasting it below for your reference to assist.
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!
Program: ...rogram Files (x86)\Adobe\Acrobat
7.0\Acrobat\Acrobat.exe
R6025
- pure virtual function call
OK

If I  hit ok, the file closes , blocking  further use. Any remedy please?
-- 
Cheers,
Radha
Everything you want in your life is waiting for you an inch outside
your comfort zone, and an inch inside your effort.



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Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove 
the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire 
capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will 
demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, 
will obtain less than 30 and get failled.


thanks and sorry.
thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic.


-Original Message- 
From: Hozefa Tambawala

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

Dear Bhawani,

We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is
necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to
except it.

For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any
features / measures which are vital to the website because they are
inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify
the website administrators about it and suggest them for other
alternatives.

I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen.
The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If
you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views
regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your
point.

Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed
on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website.

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are
saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus
upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of 
values


are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry date,
cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of 
captcha


their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.

- Original Message -
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at
least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.
and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the 
same


manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my
views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job
exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical
questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking
part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do
they have to say on this.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerning


thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number, expiry

date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this
captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the image

and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please
don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically I

am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for
intelligent solution.
- Original Message -
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility,
what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby
you.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till
my winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.


-Original Message-
From: Sheik Mohammedali
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  mathamatical questions can
be
very much answered by the bots.  Same had been implemented on the
inclusive
planet where we did not have any captcha whether image or audio.  but

Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
Do CCPD have agreed on your point?

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove

 the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire
 capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will
 demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse,

 will obtain less than 30 and get failled.

 thanks and sorry.
 thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic.


 -Original Message-
 From: Hozefa Tambawala
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

 Dear Bhawani,

 We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is
 necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to
 except it.

 For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any
 features / measures which are vital to the website because they are
 inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify
 the website administrators about it and suggest them for other
 alternatives.

 I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen.
 The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If
 you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views
 regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your
 point.

 Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed
 on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website.

 On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are
 saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus
 upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of
 values

 are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry
 date,
 cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of
 captcha

 their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning
 thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at
 least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.
 and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the
 same

 manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my
 views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job
 exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical
 questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking
 part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do
 they have to say on this.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning

 thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number,
 expiry

 date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
 I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this
 captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
 and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the
 image

 and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please
 don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically
 I

 am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for
 intelligent solution.
 - Original Message -
 From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility,
 what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby
 you.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till
 my winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.


 -Original Message-
 From: Sheik Mohammedali
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

 impossible folks.  mean removing captcha.  

Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
And for your information its C A P T C H A and not c a p t u r e.

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove

 the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire
 capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will
 demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse,

 will obtain less than 30 and get failled.

 thanks and sorry.
 thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic.


 -Original Message-
 From: Hozefa Tambawala
 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

 Dear Bhawani,

 We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is
 necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to
 except it.

 For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any
 features / measures which are vital to the website because they are
 inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify
 the website administrators about it and suggest them for other
 alternatives.

 I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen.
 The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If
 you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views
 regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your
 point.

 Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed
 on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website.

 On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are
 saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus
 upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of
 values

 are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry
 date,
 cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of
 captcha

 their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning
 thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at
 least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.
 and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the
 same

 manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my
 views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job
 exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical
 questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking
 part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do
 they have to say on this.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning

 thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number,
 expiry

 date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
 I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this
 captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
 and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the
 image

 and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please
 don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically
 I

 am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for
 intelligent solution.
 - Original Message -
 From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility,
 what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby
 you.
 - Original Message -
 From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem


 ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till
 my winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.


 -Original Message-
 From: Sheik Mohammedali
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:54 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning thedisabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

 impossible 

[AI] Regarding status bar

2014-09-09 Thread Narendra VG
Dear All,

I am Facing Problem in word. If I press insert end to check status bar but
NVDA doesn't reading but in JAWS if press insert page down its reading, what
is the problem  

Regards,

Narendra VG



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Re: [AI] Invitation for Antarchakshu 2014 -- the theme is Inclusive Education this time!

2014-09-09 Thread Parmala Bhat
thanks for the invitation. I  would have loved to come but I  am not going 
to be here during those dates.are you going to have this session in future I 
can make myself available to attend- Original Message - 
From: Xavier's Resource Centre for the Visuall St. Xavier's College 
xr...@hotmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:22 AM
Subject: [AI] Invitation for Antarchakshu 2014 -- the theme is Inclusive 
Education this time!



Dear Friends
We are delighted to invite you for Antarchakshu 2014, our annual 
sensitisation and awareness event. The theme this year is mainstreaming 
education for blind and low-vision persons (from KG to PG).
Participants will get an opportunity to play with numbers, read maps with 
their fingers, conduct experiments in a laboratory and much more, the way 
the blind do.I look forward to seeing you and your colleagues on September 
12 / 13, as per your convenience.
Attached to this email are 2 separate invites.We would also appreciate if 
you could circulate them widely among your friends / colleagues / business 
partners, especially those connected with education.
The following points are of importance.1. We need approximately an hour of 
the participants' time.2. This 1 hour can be any time between 11 am and 7 pm 
on either 12th or 13th September (Friday and Saturday).3. We would 
appreciate if schools could nominate as many teachers as possible, as also 
send their principals, administrators and management committee members.4. 
The interaction with the teachers can be in English, Hindi or Marathi.5. A 
certificate of participation will be provided to teachers / school 
representatives. The schools that send more than 5 representatives would 
also be eligible to a recognition and participation certificate.6. It would 
be ideal if participants could pre-register, mentioning their name, school 
and approximate time preference. This can be done by calling:a: Krishna: 
22623298, 22626329b. Calveena: 90040398497. There is no participation fee.

My contact details are mentioned in the signature line.
A detailed note on Antarchakshu is appended at the bottom of this 
communication.Would appreciate if you could widely circulate it so that we 
can help together build better opportunities for blind and low-vision 
students.

Best Regards,
Dr. Sam Taraporevala
--
Director
Xavier's Resource Center for the Visually Challenged
(XRCVC)
St. Xavier's College, Mumbai - 400 001
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The Right to Education Act (RTE), 2010 has taken a significant step forward 
in recognising the right to education for all in India. This includes 
students with disabilities. Education philosophies the world over have 
transitioned from ‘special’ to ‘inclusive’, under which children with 
disabilities study in the same class as other children. It has been observed 
that this not only adds value to their learning but significantly uplifts 
the learning of their non-disabled classmates and friends. However, because 
of lack of information and awareness, schools tend to remain apprehensive 
about being able to deliver on inclusive education opportunities for 
students with disabilities.
The Xavier’s Resource Centre for the Visually Challenged (XRCVC) 
(www.xrcvc.org), a department of St. Xavier’s College, Mumbai, is committed 
to the philosophy of an equal and enriching educational experience for all. 
Our experience with being able to include students with disabilities in our 
regular classrooms has been tried and tested, and refined over the years. 
The XRCVC’s experience over the past 10 years has made us realise the need 
for reaching out to other educational institutes in the city.
The XRCVC holds an annual awareness event “Antarchakshu - The Eye WithinTM” 
that aims to spread awareness on the lives of persons with blindness and low 
vision to better equip its participants to understand this physical 
condition and take back to their daily life, insights into their world. This 
year, Antarchakshu focuses exclusively on “Inclusive Education”. We write to 
invite you to partner with us on this journey. Antarchakshu is scheduled for 
September 12th and 13th and we would like to invite teachers and management 
members of your school to participate in the event.
Participants need to spend only 45 - 60 minutes at the event during either 
of these days, anytime between 11 a.m.and 7 p.m. We can pre-book a slot of 
the day for your institution if you can register with us for the same in 
advance.The event would prove invaluable for schools that currently do not 
have any visually challenged students in their classes, as it would better 
prepare them for future requests. It would also prove invaluable to schools 
which already have students with 

Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
please refer my original mails and so on. it has already been written as 
captcha.



-Original Message- 
From: Hozefa Tambawala

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:56 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

And for your information its C A P T C H A and not c a p t u r e.

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to 
remove


the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire
capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will
demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% 
ofcourse,


will obtain less than 30 and get failled.

thanks and sorry.
thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic.


-Original Message-
From: Hozefa Tambawala
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

Dear Bhawani,

We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is
necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to
except it.

For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any
features / measures which are vital to the website because they are
inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify
the website administrators about it and suggest them for other
alternatives.

I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen.
The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If
you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views
regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your
point.

Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed
on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website.

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are
saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus
upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of
values

are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry
date,
cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of
captcha

their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.

- Original Message -
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at
least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.
and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the
same

manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my
views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job
exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical
questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking
part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do
they have to say on this.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning

thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number,
expiry

date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this
captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the
image

and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please
don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically
I

am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for
intelligent solution.
- Original Message -
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility,
what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby
you.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till
my winning. and my mission is to remove the captcha.



Re: [AI] Web visum problem

2014-09-09 Thread bhawani shankar verma
ofcourse. but, I am affrade that supporters of captcha may appeal in the 
higher court against the judgment. the matter of accessibility is now been 
defeated.



-Original Message- 
From: Hozefa Tambawala

Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:54 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

Do CCPD have agreed on your point?

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to 
remove


the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire
capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will
demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% 
ofcourse,


will obtain less than 30 and get failled.

thanks and sorry.
thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic.


-Original Message-
From: Hozefa Tambawala
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem

Dear Bhawani,

We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is
necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to
except it.

For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any
features / measures which are vital to the website because they are
inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify
the website administrators about it and suggest them for other
alternatives.

I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen.
The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If
you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views
regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your
point.

Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed
on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website.

On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:

this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are
saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus
upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of
values

are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry
date,
cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of
captcha

their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website.

- Original Message -
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Here onething.  if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at
least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately.
and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the
same

manner.  O no no indeed,  I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my
views comparatively.  there should be a mechanism which can do the job
exclusively.  as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical
questions to be answered.  it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking
part in this critical discussion.  let us hear from other folks what do
they have to say on this.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning

thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number,
expiry

date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their.
I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this
captcha is doing their on the website incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in
and many other websites. I am completely blind and i can't see the
image

and my screen reader can not recognise it. what is the solution. please
don't suggest webvisum. technically you may be right. but, practically
I

am absolutely right. better is to go for easy solution not for
intelligent solution.
- Original Message -
From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



Hi Bhawani, if captcha is to be removed just forsake of accessibility,
what is your selution for preventing spamming? Indeed I will standby
you.
- Original Message -
From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem



ok then continue with this captcha. I will fight my battle alone till
my winning. and