Re: [AI] Roshan Rajan no more!

[Chetan Sagar :)]

very shocking news, he is my best friend, I still can't believe, he
oftenly call me for any technical help.
he was very talented musician.
feeling very sad.
May his soul RIP.


On 3/19/15, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni  wrote:
> Really a shocking news.  I also have the opertunity to enjoy his and
> his brother Ritwik Rajan's singing talent through television.  May the
> family have the courage to barehis loss.
> Renuka.
>
> On 3/19/15, George Abraham  wrote:
>> Just received a call from Mrs Lata Rajan, Roshan Rajan's mother that
>> Roshan
>> died last Sunday. He was grossly over weight. Roshan was an extremely
>> talented singer and had performed at various platforms. I happened to
>> know
>> him quite closely and was truly shocked when I got the news. We will miss
>> his wonderful singing and his warm friendship. May his soul RIP
>>
>>
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>>
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[AI] Moderator: RE: 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[Kotian, H P]

All
Keeping the thread closed, may I add, it is also a duty for all of us to 
interact with the blind students, teachers on a regular basis and convey this 
message loud and clear that the negativity caused by cheating is far greater to 
us than the able bodied.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: 20 March 2015 11:42
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - 
Akanksha Mittal.

The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out.
Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my personal 
experience.
I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass the 
exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so.
Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk.
Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the 
examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the exam.
I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but a 
better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing cheating to 
some extent.
Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that they are 
just twelfth pass.
If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the first 
place.
And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally 
incompetent for the exam.
Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person should be 
debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five years.
If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him.
Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community gets 
stereotyped.
Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality.

On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi  wrote:
> Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have
> loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to
> pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to
> implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those
> people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam
> system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv.
>
> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of
>> sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing
>> the buck.
>> thank you.
>> On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi  wrote:
>>> so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
>>> copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident.
>>> So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening.
>>>
>>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
 If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz
 it has no end.

 Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
 world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that
 sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she
 sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however
 the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to
 be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an
 activist at all one could check the archive...  It was just an
 effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. 
 One could differ in entirety.


 On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer
> described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually
> impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities.
> while we are ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world
> (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community
> cleansing. undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the
> visually impaired deserves salute because they are the one who
> stands empathetic while the so-called self-proclaimed activists
> and the driving force of the future of the visually impaired stand 
> sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on
> the visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump
> the false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult,
> but not impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice
> of the visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but
> such defense proves that all the visually impaired are left with
> no options but to malpractice. moreover, such notion would
> contaminate the sincere visuall

Re: [AI] Chennai: Talks End Visually Challenged's Stir

[avinash shahi]

http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/Talks-End-Visually-Challengeds-Stir/2015/03/19/article2720438.ece

On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
> You can arrest them,but can not kill their spirit to fight for their
> rights granted by the law.
> State is becoming repressive towards us: let us all become more alert
> and vigilent.
> These protesters have cleared exams and eligibility but where is job?
> who is responsible for their joblessness? such questions should make
> us thoughtful and help us in deciding how we respond to the state.
> Recently I met with two prominent government officials in Delhi at
> IIC, and they informed government is not at all willing to employ
> totally blind people. and here some of friends are raising questions
> about the immoral means adopted by blind examinees?
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/56-visually-challenged-persons-arrested/article7009929.ece
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>


-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[bala9119]

I second your opinion sir. the system that deals with the visually
impaired stands fragile. although today is late, it is better late
than never to move towards the accomplaishment of smooth flow of
system not only in education but in every aspect that determines
personal life and liberty. for that, we must creat awareness among us,
then only we can collaborate with the sighted and non-disabled
society. computerization of exams alone not a fair solution, but
mandating computer training from the primary schools of the visually
challenged "special Schools" would be the best solution for the future
progress where computerization of exams can be proliferated. apart
from that, those who enroll themselves in a visually impaired schools
must be made to learn Braille. besides computer and another person to
write, Braille seems to me the most apt, independent mode of writing
exams. I feel sad to see the significance of Braille going down among
the youngsters like us. I always consider the visually impaired who
don't know Braille as not only a person of physical Blindness but
communication blindness as well.  lets work for a change in the
system,
thank you.
On 3/20/15, George Abraham  wrote:
> Yes the situation is grim.  We all know it. The focus therefore needs to be
> on bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and values
> that do not help in the long run.
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Misbah
> Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired -
> Akanksha Mittal.
>
> Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with
> blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate
> among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been
> employed in public/private enterprises?
> The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic
> literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%,
> Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher
> education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever
> heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public
> and 0.3% in private sector they are employed.
> Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments
> in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated
> and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and
> it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the
> judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful
> of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has
> started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we
> ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don't
> understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are
> doing.
>  One does not know how much competent and capable few blind
> students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from
> other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude
> will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our
> community.
>
>
> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted.
>> then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I
>> think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the
>> article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the
>> bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with
>> regard to my statement on "self-proclaimed activists", you know very
>> well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was
>> justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the
>> indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment
>> of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that.
>> thank you.
>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has
>>> no
>>> end.
>>>
>>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
>>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
>>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
>>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
>>> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
>>> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
>>> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
 It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
 understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
 of her own experience not to demean the visu

Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[Avichal Bhatnagar]

The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out.
Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my
personal experience.
I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass
the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so.
Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk.
Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the
examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the
exam.
I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time,
but a better scruteny of the writer's background can help in
preventing cheating to some extent.
Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that
they are just twelfth pass.
If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the
first place.
And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally
incompetent for the exam.
Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person
should be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next
five years.
If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him.
Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire
community gets stereotyped.
Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality.

On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi  wrote:
> Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have
> loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to
> pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to
> implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those
> people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam
> system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv.
>
> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of
>> sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing
>> the buck.
>> thank you.
>> On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi  wrote:
>>> so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
>>> copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident.
>>> So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening.
>>>
>>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
 If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it
 has
 no
 end.

 Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
 world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
 number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
 experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
 of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
 claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
 the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
 salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.


 On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
> by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
> one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
> whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
> he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
> found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
> at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
> aspects of reformation because the aspira

[AI] Moderator: RE: 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[Kotian, H P]

All
This has been a useful interaction, I agree with George, our focus should be 
concentrated towards improving the situation and taking to a higher level.
We had a fruitful discussion, it is time to call of this thread.
Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: 20 March 2015 06:21
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - 
Akanksha Mittal.

Yes the situation is grim.  We all know it. The focus therefore needs to be on 
bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and values that do 
not help in the long run.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Misbah
Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - 
Akanksha Mittal.

Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with blindness in this 
country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate among the blind is? Does anyone 
know how many blind persons have been employed in public/private enterprises?
The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic literacy 
in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%, Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 
to 3% are in so called higher education. Out of million blind a handful does 
uses or would have ever heard of screen reader application available for them. 
0.4% in public and 0.3% in private sector they are employed.
Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments in light 
of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated and elite segments 
of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and it has started implementing 
recently not by the government but by the judicial indictments and now because 
of such legal fighting if handful of blind persons have gained some 
respectability their competency has started recognize by the 
private/governmental authorities than we ourselves have started pulling the 
legs of our own people? I don’t understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing 
whistle blowing we are doing.
 One does not know how much competent and capable few blind students/aspirant 
has become that they are getting hard fighting from other blind fellow itself 
doo hope that this self-blaming attitude will amend its way neither it may 
results mutual suicide within our community.


On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
> Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted.
> then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I
> think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the
> article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the
> bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with
> regard to my statement on "self-proclaimed activists", you know very
> well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was
> justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the
> indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment
> of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that.
> thank you.
> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it
>> has no end.
>>
>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I
>> never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could
>> check the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to
>> underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
>>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described
>>> 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
>>> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are
>>> ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world
>>> (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community cleansing.
>>> undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired
>>> deserves salute because they are the one who stands empathetic while
>>> the so-called self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the
>>> future of the visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic 
>>> drawbacks.
>>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
>>> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
>>> its up to the visually impaired to b

Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi]

Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have
loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to
pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to
implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those
people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam
system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv.

On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
> What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of
> sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing
> the buck.
> thank you.
> On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi  wrote:
>> so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
>> copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident.
>> So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening.
>>
>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has
>>> no
>>> end.
>>>
>>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
>>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
>>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
>>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
>>> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
>>> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
>>> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
 It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
 understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
 propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
 to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
 must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
 so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
 because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
 self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
 visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
 I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
 visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
 its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
 false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
 impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
 visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
 proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
 malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
 visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
 upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
 by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
 one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
 whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
 he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
 found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
 at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
 aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
 invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a
 co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the invigilator
 has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge in malpractice
 not only sends a wrong message to the sighted invigilator, but it
 hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum the prepared
 co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we must do community
 cleansing to avoid being the burden to the society. there is a long
 long way to achieve community cleanliness and as is the dignified,
 equal treatment. lets not be pseudo-libertarians,
 thank you.
 --
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i mostly download any files which is on the youtube by using the traditional
way. i'm still using IDM on my computer, and 10youtube on my phone for
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there is an exelent hindi tutorial regarding sql (structure queery language)
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[AI] Live Audio Link for 3rd Quartar Final Match of Cricket World-Cup

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Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[George Abraham]

Yes the situation is grim.  We all know it. The focus therefore needs to be on 
bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and values that do 
not help in the long run.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Misbah
Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - 
Akanksha Mittal.

Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with
blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate
among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been
employed in public/private enterprises?
The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic
literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%,
Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher
education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever
heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public
and 0.3% in private sector they are employed.
Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments
in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated
and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and
it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the
judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful
of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has
started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we
ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don’t
understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are
doing.
 One does not know how much competent and capable few blind
students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from
other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude
will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our
community.


On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
> Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted.
> then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I
> think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the
> article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the
> bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with
> regard to my statement on "self-proclaimed activists", you know very
> well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was
> justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the
> indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment
> of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that.
> thank you.
> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has
>> no
>> end.
>>
>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
>> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
>> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
>> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
>>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
>>> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
>>> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
>>> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
>>> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
>>> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
>>> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
>>> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
>>> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
>>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
>>> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
>>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
>>> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
>>> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
>>> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
>>> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
>>> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
>>> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
>>> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
>>> by citing the blockades. for example, during my ma

Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[bala9119]

Does anyone know the exact statistics of the population of the blind
in India? look at it, there is a greater conflict of result between
the civil society organisations and the world health organization. it
would be greatful if you can share the source from which your data
presentation has been extracted. besides all, kindly enlighten me on
what were you trying to say.
thank you.
On 3/19/15, Misbah  wrote:
> Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with
> blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate
> among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been
> employed in public/private enterprises?
> The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic
> literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%,
> Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher
> education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever
> heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public
> and 0.3% in private sector they are employed.
> Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments
> in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated
> and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and
> it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the
> judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful
> of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has
> started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we
> ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don't
> understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are
> doing.
>  One does not know how much competent and capable few blind
> students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from
> other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude
> will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our
> community.
>
>
> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted.
>> then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I
>> think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the
>> article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the
>> bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with
>> regard to my statement on "self-proclaimed activists", you know very
>> well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was
>> justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the
>> indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment
>> of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that.
>> thank you.
>> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has
>>> no
>>> end.
>>>
>>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
>>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
>>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
>>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
>>> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
>>> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
>>> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
 It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
 understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
 propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
 to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
 must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
 so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
 because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
 self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
 visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
 I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
 visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
 its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
 false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
 impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
 visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
 proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
 malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
 visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
 upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
 by citing the blockades. for example, during my m

[AI] Dawn Pakistan: Census & disability By Rukhsana Shah

[avinash shahi]

The writer is a former federal secretary.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1170433
THE census forms the basis of all activities of the government, from
economic management to infrastructural and institutional development,
provision of basic human rights such as security, health, education
and housing, social welfare, population planning, and resource
allocation.

The last census in Pakistan was held in 1998, after a gap of 16 years,
and now, after a gap of 16 more years, it has still not been conducted
although it is supposed to be on a decennial basis. This is just
another sign of the decay of national institutions which are of
critical significance in a civilised society but that have fallen on
evil days in Pakistan due to political and bureaucratic lethargy.

In India, the census has been conducted regularly every 10 years from
1901 onwards, and the 2011 census was the first time that information
was collected through the use of biometric technology. The 2011 census
is remarkable as it was conducted in 16 languages, with segregated
data on education, households, languages, religious affiliations, and
age-wise grouping of the youth. However, the census is drastically
short on disability data, which is as under-reported there as it is in
Pakistan.

In Pakistan, the figure of 3,286,630 disabled persons in a total
population of 132,352,000 was first arrived at through the 1998
census, indicating 2.4pc disabled in Pakistan. This figure was hotly
contested by civil society and NGOs working for the disabled, who
pointed out the shortcomings of the survey methodology which, among
other things, did not take into account the social barriers and stigma
related to the disabled in the country.




The first barrier that the disabled encounter is statistics.



According to the same census, 7.6pc of the disabled were classified as
'mentally retarded'. This term does not differentiate between the
various intellectual disabilities such as autism, ADHD, ADD, dyslexia,
Down's, or other learning disabilities, with the result that teachers
and caregivers are not properly trained to deal with these problems,
closing the doors forever to the education and rehabilitation of those
with these disabilities.

However, the 2.4pc figure continues to have an impact on the
allocation of resources for the disabled, as with miniscule funding
the government cannot properly plan and deliver services necessary for
treatment, intervention and rehabilitation, such as medical care,
developing special education materials and aids, training of teachers,
ensuring prosthetics, physiotherapy, psychotherapy, etc.

The UN Experts Group on Disability that met in July 2014 to look at
various issues in collection and measuring of data on disability found
that more than a billion people or 15pc of the world's population are
living with disabilities. Further, the report stated that "persons
with disabilities are disproportionately represented among the poorest
segments of society" and about 80pc of persons with disabilities
reside in developing countries.

The meeting also highlighted the fact that the realisation of the MDGs
for persons with disabilities had not been accomplished partly due to
poor data collection methodologies. Apart from failing to devise
war-footing intervention strategies in the health, education and
poverty alleviation sectors, the government in Pakistan also ignored
the ballpark figure of 15pc disabled in the country despite the UN
findings.

So, for example, in the 2014-15 provincial budgets, the total outlay
for special education is less than Rs1.5bn. Add to that another
Rs1.5bn which is allocated from the social welfare and Baitul Mal
grants. Even then the figure of about Rs3bn is abysmally low as at
15pc of the population, the disabled are at least 30 million, given
the added factors of terrorist attacks, domestic violence and cousin
marriages in the country. At Rs3bn, the government is spending Rs100
per disabled person every year; minus the administrative costs, it is
spending Rs30 per disabled person.

So, the first barrier that persons with disabilities encounter is
statistics. If the government does not know the number of people who
need specific intervention, treatment, training and rehabilitation,
the budgetary allocations can never meet the needs. And sadly,
statistics can still be misleading because of attitudes in our social
set-up. There are huge uneducated, disenfranchised, poor communities
in Pakistan and other developing countries where the parents refuse to
bring out their disabled child or children from being seen and
counted.

The social contract between citizens and the state makes it imperative
for the state/government to develop credible systems of data
collection of the disabled to gauge their needs and take steps to
rehabilitate them in society. Civil soc

Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[Misbah]

Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with
blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate
among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been
employed in public/private enterprises?
The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic
literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%,
Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher
education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever
heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public
and 0.3% in private sector they are employed.
Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments
in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated
and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and
it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the
judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful
of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has
started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we
ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don’t
understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are
doing.
 One does not know how much competent and capable few blind
students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from
other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude
will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our
community.


On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
> Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted.
> then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I
> think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the
> article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the
> bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with
> regard to my statement on "self-proclaimed activists", you know very
> well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was
> justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the
> indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment
> of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that.
> thank you.
> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has
>> no
>> end.
>>
>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
>> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
>> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
>> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
>>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
>>> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
>>> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
>>> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
>>> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
>>> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
>>> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
>>> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
>>> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
>>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
>>> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
>>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
>>> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
>>> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
>>> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
>>> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
>>> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
>>> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
>>> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
>>> by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
>>> one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
>>> whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
>>> he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
>>> found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
>>> at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
>>> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
>>> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly 

Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[bala9119]

What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of
sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing
the buck.
thank you.
On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi  wrote:
> so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
> copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident.
> So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening.
>
> On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has
>> no
>> end.
>>
>> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
>> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
>> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
>> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
>> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
>> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
>> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
>> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
>>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
>>> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
>>> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
>>> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
>>> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
>>> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
>>> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
>>> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
>>> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
>>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
>>> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
>>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
>>> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
>>> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
>>> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
>>> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
>>> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
>>> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
>>> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
>>> by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
>>> one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
>>> whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
>>> he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
>>> found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
>>> at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
>>> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
>>> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a
>>> co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the invigilator
>>> has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge in malpractice
>>> not only sends a wrong message to the sighted invigilator, but it
>>> hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum the prepared
>>> co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we must do community
>>> cleansing to avoid being the burden to the society. there is a long
>>> long way to achieve community cleanliness and as is the dignified,
>>> equal treatment. lets not be pseudo-libertarians,
>>> thank you.
>>> --
>>> "It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
>>> what we have."
>>>
>>> With Sincere Regards
>>>
>>> Balanagendran. D
>>> IAS Aspirant
>>> Skype: balanagendran
>>> Twitter:
>>> http://twitter.com/balanagendran89
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and

Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[bala9119]

Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted.
then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I
think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the
article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the
bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with
regard to my statement on "self-proclaimed activists", you know very
well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was
justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the
indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment
of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that.
thank you.
On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no
> end.
>
> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>
>
> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
>> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
>> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
>> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
>> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
>> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
>> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
>> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
>> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
>> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
>> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
>> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
>> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
>> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
>> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
>> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
>> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
>> by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
>> one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
>> whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
>> he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
>> found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
>> at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
>> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
>> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a
>> co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the invigilator
>> has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge in malpractice
>> not only sends a wrong message to the sighted invigilator, but it
>> hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum the prepared
>> co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we must do community
>> cleansing to avoid being the burden to the society. there is a long
>> long way to achieve community cleanliness and as is the dignified,
>> equal treatment. lets not be pseudo-libertarians,
>> thank you.
>> --
>> "It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
>> what we have."
>>
>> With Sincere Regards
>>
>> Balanagendran. D
>> IAS Aspirant
>> Skype: balanagendran
>> Twitter:
>> http://twitter.com/balanagendran89
>>
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[AI] accessible contact manager for android

[Nirmal Verma]

Dear Friends

Please share with me the accessible contact manager for android phones.
Please also share the instructions along with it .

regards

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Re: [AI] few quiries

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Hi,
If you are switching from JAWS to nVDA, you may want to read the
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Re: [AI] Asylum survey

[Sruti disAbility Rights Centre]

Thanks Avinash for sharing this - being part of the team which compiled the
Human Rights Watch Report, I personally feel it is high time Government
take up some firm stand and actions on this issue.

With regards

Shampa Sengupta

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:55 PM, avinash shahi 
wrote:

> New Delhi, March 17: The government has for the first time initiated a
> survey to determine the condition of women in mental health
> institutions across the country.
>
> http://www.telegraphindia.com/1150318/jsp/nation/story_9382.jsp#.VQkdTVS6Z1o
> "A lot of women are put in there (in asylums) because they are widows,
> have property and the rest of their family conspires to remove them
> (from their homes)," women and child development minister Maneka
> Gandhi told the Rajya Sabha today.
>
> The minister, who was responding to a query raised by a JDU MP, said
> she had commissioned the survey, by the National Commission for Women
> (NCW), two months ago. "For the first time since Independence will
> such a survey be done by the government," she added.
>
> Mental health does not come under the purview of the WCD ministry. It
> is handled by the ministry of social justice and empowerment. But
> sources in the WCD ministry said Maneka had listed such a survey as a
> priority soon after she took over.
>
> "She personally knows quite a few cases where normal women had been
> forcibly sent to asylums because there was a property dispute. In many
> cases, the asylum itself becomes a partner to the crime. This survey
> would closely monitor the institutions, which in itself would work as
> a deterrent," a ministry official said.
>
> According to a December 2014 report by the Human Rights Watch, many
> women have been forced into institutions and coerced into taking
> medication for mental disorders when they needed none.
>
> The 106-page report, Treated Worse than Animals: Abuses against Women
> and Girls with Psychosocial or Intellectual Disabilities in
> Institutions in India, was based on research conducted on such women
> between December 2012 and November 2014 in Delhi, Calcutta, Mumbai,
> Pune, Bangalore and Mysore.
>
> The study - which involved more than 200 interviews with women and
> girls with psychosocial or intellectual disabilities, their families,
> caretakers, mental health professionals, service providers, government
> officials and police - documents involuntary admission and arbitrary
> detention in mental hospitals and residential care institutions.
>
> There are no clear official estimates on the prevalence of
> psychosocial or intellectual disabilities in India. But the 2011
> census estimates that around 1.5 million people - 0.1 per cent of the
> population - suffer from intellectual disabilities, while a mere 7.2
> lakh have psychosocial disabilities such as schizophrenia or bipolar
> condition.
>
> NCW member Shamina Shafiq said the survey would explore the "entire
> gamut of life" in a mental care institution, including physical
> well-being, hygiene and emotional care.
>
>
> --
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> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi]

so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also
copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident.
So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening.

On 3/19/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
> If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no
> end.
>
> Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
> world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
> number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
> experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
> of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
> claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
> the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
> salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.
>
>
> On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
>> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
>> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
>> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
>> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
>> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
>> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
>> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
>> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
>> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
>> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
>> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
>> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
>> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
>> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
>> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
>> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
>> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
>> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
>> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
>> by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
>> one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
>> whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
>> he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
>> found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
>> at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
>> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
>> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a
>> co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the invigilator
>> has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge in malpractice
>> not only sends a wrong message to the sighted invigilator, but it
>> hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum the prepared
>> co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we must do community
>> cleansing to avoid being the burden to the society. there is a long
>> long way to achieve community cleanliness and as is the dignified,
>> equal treatment. lets not be pseudo-libertarians,
>> thank you.
>> --
>> "It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
>> what we have."
>>
>> With Sincere Regards
>>
>> Balanagendran. D
>> IAS Aspirant
>> Skype: balanagendran
>> Twitter:
>> http://twitter.com/balanagendran89
>>
>>
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[AI] reg-NGO contact details for other disability

[D H]

hi All,

Hope all is well,one of my friend  is in hydrabad,she cant walk both
of her legs cant work,as if now she is working,work from home
obtion,she is having good experience of work,but now she is looking
for change due to some issue in the current company,so can someone
give me the contact details of any NGO where someone can help her to
find any job a disable friendly envirement,because all the work she
has done work from home,i would really appriciate this.



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[AI] few quiries

[sanjay]

Dear listers,
1. Please share the link which describes  the difference between NVDA and jaws. 
 As a NVDA user, I need it badly.
 2.  How to enable bcc field in MS outlook 2007?  
3.  IF vocaliser for NVDA is fre,  please share its addd-on.  I need it for 
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[AI] Cheating arrangement: Bihar education minister says 'fair' exams impossible in state

[avinash shahi]

This story is just from one of the states; one could just imagine the
situation in the country.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/cheating-arrangement-bihar-education-minister-says-fair-exams-impossible-in-state/article1-1328251.aspx

Updated: Mar 19, 2015 17:34 IST

The photograph was telling as it was shocking: dozens of people
climbing up a wall of an examination hall in Bihar's Vaishali district
as many more stood on the ground below, watching the spectacle.

The people on the wall were apparent friends and family-members of
candidates appearing in the ongoing Class 10 board exams, trying of
pass on chits of papers with answers written on them.

But then, it is a scene common to many parts of Bihar during any big
exam and the authorities have all but surrendered to the
circumstances.

No wonder, an exasperated education minister PK Shahi put up his hands
and admitted on Thursday that cheating-free examinations were not
possible in the state, minus the cooperation of students' parents.

More than 1.4 million students are appearing in the Class 10 board
examination amid widespread reports of mass copying and cheating.

The exams, which began on March 17, are being conducted at 80,000
centres across the state.

Earlier attempts to stop mass copying had even triggered violent
protests by students and guardians, highlighting a deep-rooted malaise
in one of the country's most impoverished states.

Shahi admitted to the media that holding "free and fair exam" was a
big challenge for the Bihar government.

"The government cannot stop cheating in exams," he said. "It is also
the responsibility of the society to ensure cheating-free
examinations.

"More than the government, the parents and guardians of students
should come forward (to end the mass cheating)," he said.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Images/popup/2015/3/Bihar1.jpg
A man tries to send an answer chit to a candidate inside an
examination hall with the help of a stick. (HT Photo)

The minister expressed the government's helplessness to hold a
cheating-free exam.

Shahi said the situation in Bihar was so bad that at least four to
five people helped every student to cheat.

"First, I appeal to parents and guardians to stop cheating to help the
government ensure free and fair exams," he said.

In the last three days, more than 600 students, caught cheating in the
board examination, have been expelled, an official said on Thursday.

"The students were expelled on charges of adopting unfair means," said
Lalkeshwar Prasad, chairman of the Bihar School Examination Board
(BSEB), which is conducting the examination.

Officials said over 1,000 students were caught cheating in examination
in three subjects, including mathematics and English, on Tuesday and
Wednesday.

But just over 600 of them were expelled, he added.



-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[avinash shahi]

If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end.

Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual
world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable
number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her
experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification
of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never
claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check
the archive...  It was just an effort as researcher to underline the
salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety.


On 3/19/15, bala9119  wrote:
> It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
> understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
> of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
> propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
> to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
> must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
> so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
> because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
> self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
> visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
> I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
> visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
> its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
> false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
> impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
> visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
> proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
> malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
> visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
> upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
> by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
> one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
> whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
> he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
> found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
> at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
> aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
> invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a
> co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the invigilator
> has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge in malpractice
> not only sends a wrong message to the sighted invigilator, but it
> hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum the prepared
> co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we must do community
> cleansing to avoid being the burden to the society. there is a long
> long way to achieve community cleanliness and as is the dignified,
> equal treatment. lets not be pseudo-libertarians,
> thank you.
> --
> "It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
> what we have."
>
> With Sincere Regards
>
> Balanagendran. D
> IAS Aspirant
> Skype: balanagendran
> Twitter:
> http://twitter.com/balanagendran89
>
>
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-- 
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[AI] Eyeway's alerts

[Eyeway Helpdesk]

Dear All:

Visually impaired student from Vellore for All India Judo tournament.
Twenty-one-year-old V. Dinesh, a visually impaired student studying
B.Ed. (Tamil) in the Government College of Education, Vellore, has
been selected for the All India Judo Tournament for the Blind, Deaf
and Dumb being held in Vasco da Gama in Goa from March 19 to 22. C.S.
Sakthivel, judo coach and secretary of the Blind and Para Judo
Association, Vellore, told *The Hindu *that it is for the first time
that a visually impaired person is being sent from Vellore to the
all-India tournament. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=visually-impaired-student-vellore-all-india-judo-tournament


New Vision for Visually Impaired Students.  Visually impaired students
were given an opportunity to showcase their talent at New Vision, an
inter-collegiate fest for the visually challenged, organised by PG
students and the Department of English of The New College on March
17.More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=new-vision-visually-impaired-students.
  First seat on bus for blind, disabled. The first seat on DTC buses
will now be reserved for disabled or blind passengers. On Wednesday,
transport minister Gopal Rai chaired a public hearing at the regional
transport office in Burari. After the hearing, Rai announced a slew of
measures to "upgrade" the functioning of the RTO there. The minister
directed the transport department to ensure that the first seat on DTC
buses is reserved for disabled or blind persons. He directed the
department to upload details of parking space pertaining to existing
autos and taxis in the capital on its website. This would help drivers
know about parking space that has been reserved for them and they
would not be ticketed by the Delhi Traffic Police. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=first-seat-bus-blind-disabled


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Re: [AI] Roshan Rajan no more!

[Renuka Warriar Edakkunni]

Really a shocking news.  I also have the opertunity to enjoy his and
his brother Ritwik Rajan's singing talent through television.  May the
family have the courage to barehis loss.
Renuka.

On 3/19/15, George Abraham  wrote:
> Just received a call from Mrs Lata Rajan, Roshan Rajan's mother that Roshan
> died last Sunday. He was grossly over weight. Roshan was an extremely
> talented singer and had performed at various platforms. I happened to know
> him quite closely and was truly shocked when I got the news. We will miss
> his wonderful singing and his warm friendship. May his soul RIP
>
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[AI] Roshan Rajan no more!

[George Abraham]

Just received a call from Mrs Lata Rajan, Roshan Rajan's mother that Roshan
died last Sunday. He was grossly over weight. Roshan was an extremely
talented singer and had performed at various platforms. I happened to know
him quite closely and was truly shocked when I got the news. We will miss
his wonderful singing and his warm friendship. May his soul RIP

 

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Re: [AI] Challenges in Learning How to Play the Guitar

[Renuka Warriar Edakkunni]

Hello,
The only way out is strict practice.  When I was learning valin, I
used to practise for three hours a day.  As for the notations, they
were recorded and I got it by hearted first, after that I tried to
play them.

Renuka.

On 3/19/15, George Abraham  wrote:
> Rahul, Normally before starting to play chords, one does a number of finger
> and strumming exercises. Once the fingers begin moving up and down the fret
> board, playing chords and changing chords becomes easier.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 19 March 2015 11:13
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Challenges in Learning How to Play the Guitar
>
> 1.Rahul  Count your frets and strings. Get the position of each chord in
> your mind eg. C major will have C,E,G,c. Try only 3 note chords first-eg.
> C,E,G then bring the fourth note into place.
> 2. Bhavya - you must not move your fingers off the neck of the guitar. your
>
> thumb must be correctly placed. Then when you shift chords you have to move
>
> one finger at a time. Never lift your full hand off the strings. Keep your
> fingers pressed near the fret but not on it.
> 3.  Its delicate work. Go to a good teacher especially of the old school
> and
> learn the correct technique.
>
> Kanchan Pamnani
> Advocate & Solicitor
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> Battery Street, Colaba,
> Mumbai - 400 039.
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> From: "Bhavya shah" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Challenges in Learning How to Play the Guitar
>
>
>> Hi,
>> Regarding getting your position on the right fret, it will come with
>> practice.
>> Adding a question to the thread, do you all face issues in shifting
>> between chords? Any specific tips or advice for quicker and smoother
>> shifting of chords? I play lead fine, but despite quite some practice,
>> am not at a satisfactory level with playing chords. I'll keep trying
>> and practising for now...
>> Any tips would be appreciated.
>>
>> On 3/18/15, raaju  wrote:
>>> Hello rahul, that's the problem with all the new guitar learners. But in
>>> order to overcome, try to practice. Try to play the guitar in simple
>>> songs
>>> at all. Try to sing yourself by playing guitar. Secondly, in order to
>>> record
>>> the notation or cord, , Braille provides the extra code, by using this
>>> Braille code, you may able to write the notation.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Behalf
>>> Of Rahul Bajaj
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:12 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: [AI] Challenges in Learning How to Play the Guitar
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I know this has been discussed before to some extent, but I couldn't
> find
>>> anything that specifically addresses my concerns. I have recently
> started
>>> taking guitar lessons and am facing 2 main challenges:
>>> 1. I am struggling to acquire a precise idea about the position of my
>>> fingers with reference to the fret board. More specifically, I often
>>> inadvertently skip strings or frets and have to make a concerted effort
>>> to
>>> get the finger positioning right. As a result, I take a lot of time to
>>> get
>>> from one note to the other which one cannot afford to do while playing a
>>> song. Second, what is the best way to record all the notations of
> chords,
>>> songs and scales? Any tips would be invaluable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
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Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.

[bala9119]

It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our
understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2
of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to
propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready
to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we
must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the
so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute
because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called
self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the
visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks.
I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the
visually impaired though i personally disagree. "we get what we give."
its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the
false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not
impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the
visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense
proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to
malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere
visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the
upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts
by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year,
one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper
whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper,
he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator
found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant
at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the
aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the
invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a
co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand which is what the invigilator
has done. because the aspirant's intention to indulge in malpractice
not only sends a wrong message to the sighted invigilator, but it
hurts me, who is a fellow community member cum the prepared
co-aspirant. while we expect dignified treatment, we must do community
cleansing to avoid being the burden to the society. there is a long
long way to achieve community cleanliness and as is the dignified,
equal treatment. lets not be pseudo-libertarians,
thank you.
-- 
"It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
what we have."

With Sincere Regards

Balanagendran. D
IAS Aspirant
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Re: [AI] Info required regarding net banking of PNB.

[bhawani shankar verma]

I can't claim full accessibility, but you can use it with jaws on IE and 
firefox comfortably. I did not try NVDA with it. sometimes jawa run time JRE 
delays it response, so, better is to first check its installation on your 
system.



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Subject: [AI] Info required regarding net banking of PNB.



Hi friends!

Let me know that net banking of PNB is accessible for VI or not
because I want to take the same.

Thanks



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