Re: [AI] Income opertunity for persons with disabilities

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Here is another spam mail again.

On 2/26/2016 7:35 AM, Rakesh P wrote:

Dear friends,
AccessWorks a combined project by Loop11 from Australia and Knowbility from
US is a home based usability testing opertunity for people with
disabilities. Simple tasks need to be performed by people with disabilities
and provide their experience for the clients.
Below is the link for you to register and the promo code for the same. The
help email is also provided in the article for any questions you may have.
http://www.maxability.co.in/2016/02/income-opertunity-for-people-with-disabilities/
Feel free to register with your email to know more such happenings in
accessibility and disability world.
Happy earning.

Thanks & Regards
Rakesh

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Re: [AI] part and full time online work . genvin website .

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Please don't use this platform to advertise this kind of fake websites. 
I have seen this types of mails several times on this forum.


On 2/25/2016 4:57 PM, Selva Kumar wrote:

Hi friends,

My rriend has used this website, and got feedback from him that is fake website.

Thanks,regards,
Selvakumar.

On 2/25/16, Sumesh Surendran  wrote:

Hi,
Any of you have actually earned money from this site?
If yes, please share your experience so that the others also will be
benefited.
Rgds,
Sumesh

On 2/23/16, Harish Kapoor  wrote:

Please check it.
http://YouthToEarn.com/?ref=324564


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Re: [AI] Virtual hair cut

[Naushad Charivilayil]

I heard this around 2009.

On 12/23/2015 5:51 PM, Kotian, H P wrote:

 Friends
I am sharing an interesting audio file which is a good example of stereophonic 
recording. It has to be listened on headphones only to get best effect.
Although this is off-topic. I guess all would enjoy it.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/654fkm


Warmly
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Re: [AI] dear list memners

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Follow these steps to disable/enable display in windows 7 and above.
1. Press windows key + p to open projection option list box.
2. Turn off the display: Select projector only item from the projection 
option list box and hit enter.
3. Turn on the display: select disconnect item from projection option 
list box and hit enter.



On 7/27/2014 12:16 PM, Vishwanath Reddy wrote:

dear members  i am using  acer notebook.
please can any one tell me the process of how to start and stop
display in acer notebook?



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(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
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Re: [AI] Cooking with the help of induction cook top.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

My contact number is, 09496732353

On 7/21/2014 8:29 AM, Patel Bijal wrote:

hello nausad,
will u share yr contact no?
Bijal


On 7/20/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Certainly, we can control the heat of an induction cooker.
1. To increase or decrease the heat: use plus or minus button.
2, set time: press timer button once, and use plus or minus button to
increase or decrease by one minute. Example to set 10 minute, press
timer once, and press plus 10 times.
3. To boil water: use full power of the induction cooker.
4. There is a special button for boiling milk.
5. Use a thicker pan with induction base to frying jobs. Warning, don't
use thinner steel pan for frying, oil may burn!
6. Temperature range of the induction cooker will be between 80 digree
and 350 degree celcius.
7. Please refer a good cooking book to understand exact temperature for
different dishes.


On 7/20/2014 3:24 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:

Can u tell me.how long does it take to cook rice,dall and vegetables
and at what tempreture? What about boiling water and milk? R u able to
fry with the cook top?
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply.
Regards,
Chandan.

Sent from my iPad


On 20-Jul-2014, at 2:59 pm, Naushad Charivilayil
naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi friend, I am using induction cooktop for last 4 years. According to my
experience, I am more than satisfied. Before purchase an induction
cooktop, you must ensure that your model comes with manual bubble like
switches with buzzer rather than touch controls.



On 7/20/2014 2:09 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:
Hi all,
I need to no whether any of u r using the induction cook top and your
experiences with it.  I want to understand how to cook different
dishes on the cook top.
I am really sorry if this is of topic.
Thanks and regards,
Chandan.Sent from my iPad



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Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of
the atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion
fuels hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It
is a diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of
death (way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final
way to destiny).




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Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels

Re: [AI] Cooking with the help of induction cook top.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Sorry, there is no cookery book available especially for induction 
cooktops. Its only a cooking instrument like gas burner.


On 7/20/2014 8:51 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:

Have u read any book on the same subject? Can u suggest me any good
book wich will give an idea to cook with the cook top?
Thanks for all your help.

Sent from my iPad


On 20-Jul-2014, at 6:56 pm, Naushad Charivilayil 
naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Certainly, we can control the heat of an induction cooker.
1. To increase or decrease the heat: use plus or minus button.
2, set time: press timer button once, and use plus or minus button to increase 
or decrease by one minute. Example to set 10 minute, press timer once, and 
press plus 10 times.
3. To boil water: use full power of the induction cooker.
4. There is a special button for boiling milk.
5. Use a thicker pan with induction base to frying jobs. Warning, don't use 
thinner steel pan for frying, oil may burn!
6. Temperature range of the induction cooker will be between 80 digree and 350 
degree celcius.
7. Please refer a good cooking book to understand exact temperature for 
different dishes.



On 7/20/2014 3:24 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:
Can u tell me.how long does it take to cook rice,dall and vegetables
and at what tempreture? What about boiling water and milk? R u able to
fry with the cook top?
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply.
Regards,
Chandan.

Sent from my iPad


On 20-Jul-2014, at 2:59 pm, Naushad Charivilayil 
naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi friend, I am using induction cooktop for last 4 years. According to my 
experience, I am more than satisfied. Before purchase an induction cooktop, you 
must ensure that your model comes with manual bubble like switches with buzzer 
rather than touch controls.



On 7/20/2014 2:09 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:
Hi all,
I need to no whether any of u r using the induction cook top and your
experiences with it.  I want to understand how to cook different
dishes on the cook top.
I am really sorry if this is of topic.
Thanks and regards,
Chandan.Sent from my iPad



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Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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Re: [AI] Cooking with the help of induction cook top.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi friend, I am using induction cooktop for last 4 years. According to 
my experience, I am more than satisfied. Before purchase an induction 
cooktop, you must ensure that your model comes with manual bubble like 
switches with buzzer rather than touch controls.



On 7/20/2014 2:09 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:

Hi all,
I need to no whether any of u r using the induction cook top and your
experiences with it.  I want to understand how to cook different
dishes on the cook top.
I am really sorry if this is of topic.
Thanks and regards,
Chandan.Sent from my iPad



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--
Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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Re: [AI] Cooking with the help of induction cook top.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Certainly, we can control the heat of an induction cooker.
1. To increase or decrease the heat: use plus or minus button.
2, set time: press timer button once, and use plus or minus button to 
increase or decrease by one minute. Example to set 10 minute, press 
timer once, and press plus 10 times.

3. To boil water: use full power of the induction cooker.
4. There is a special button for boiling milk.
5. Use a thicker pan with induction base to frying jobs. Warning, don't 
use thinner steel pan for frying, oil may burn!
6. Temperature range of the induction cooker will be between 80 digree 
and 350 degree celcius.
7. Please refer a good cooking book to understand exact temperature for 
different dishes.



On 7/20/2014 3:24 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:

Can u tell me.how long does it take to cook rice,dall and vegetables
and at what tempreture? What about boiling water and milk? R u able to
fry with the cook top?
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply.
Regards,
Chandan.

Sent from my iPad


On 20-Jul-2014, at 2:59 pm, Naushad Charivilayil 
naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi friend, I am using induction cooktop for last 4 years. According to my 
experience, I am more than satisfied. Before purchase an induction cooktop, you 
must ensure that your model comes with manual bubble like switches with buzzer 
rather than touch controls.



On 7/20/2014 2:09 PM, chandan mokashi wrote:
Hi all,
I need to no whether any of u r using the induction cook top and your
experiences with it.  I want to understand how to cook different
dishes on the cook top.
I am really sorry if this is of topic.
Thanks and regards,
Chandan.Sent from my iPad



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--
Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
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diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose

Re: [AI] Switch from windows to Ubuntu

[Naushad Charivilayil]

I am also a java programmer, and I am still not satisfied with linux 
accessibility. Orca is lagging in performance, and crashing most often 
in ubuntu. Still linux is not friendly for a blind professional.


On 7/18/2014 10:43 PM, Ramees Muhammed Vadakkath valapil wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am working as a Java/Android developer,
Currently I use Windows7 and Eclipse use for my development with JAWS
Screen reader.

I want to switch to Ubuntu, but I don’t know anything about that
accessibility and other basic things.
Pls tell the accessibility of Ubuntu and I need some guidance/tutorial
to switch to ubuntu

Best regards,
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(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
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Re: [AI] How to open epub file?

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Please download and install adobe digital edition, or you can 
alternately use Balabolka to read epub file.


On 7/10/2014 12:08 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafel wrote:

I have some book in epub format, want to import it into readable
format. How to do it?




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Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
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Re: [AI] How to open epub file?

[Naushad Charivilayil]

You can easily convert it if you have installed bullzip pdf printer. 
Besides conversion, epub is one of the accessible format, and more 
comfortable than pdf, then why do you want to convert it?


On 7/10/2014 12:45 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafel wrote:

Actually I want to convert epub book into pdf format. I came to know
that its possible through stanza software. I am looking for it.

On 7/10/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Please download and install adobe digital edition, or you can
alternately use Balabolka to read epub file.

On 7/10/2014 12:08 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafel wrote:

I have some book in epub format, want to import it into readable
format. How to do it?



--
Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of
death (way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way
to destiny).




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Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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Re: [AI] How to open epub file?

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To read epub format, you have to download and install adobe digital 
edition, or alternatively, you can use balabolka to read text only virsion.


On 7/10/2014 1:32 PM, Preeti Monga wrote:

I cant read this format on my laptop or on my e book reader. What should I
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Subject: Re: [AI] How to open epub file?

You can easily convert it if you have installed bullzip pdf printer.
Besides conversion, epub is one of the accessible format, and more
comfortable than pdf, then why do you want to convert it?

On 7/10/2014 12:45 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafel wrote:

Actually I want to convert epub book into pdf format. I came to know
that its possible through stanza software. I am looking for it.

On 7/10/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Please download and install adobe digital edition, or you can
alternately use Balabolka to read epub file.

On 7/10/2014 12:08 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafel wrote:

I have some book in epub format, want to import it into readable
format. How to do it?


--
Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of

the

atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of
death (way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final

way

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hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
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Re: [AI] problem facing while opening emz files

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Hi, EMZ is a kind of compressed image format, You can extract the file 
using 7-zip or view it by microsoft office program.


On 7/9/2014 3:39 PM, anjaneyulu wrote:

hi friends some of you know I have selected PO in canara bank
yesterday I get mail from the bank
their they have attached some pdf files and some emz files
specially emz files are not opening
please guide me how can I open it?
it is emerjancy please get back to me soon.






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Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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[AI] problem facing while opening emz files

[Naushad Charivilayil]

To view it:
1. Save the .emz file to your local system
2. Open the blank MS word document
3. Go to Insert  Picture and select the file you saved on your machine 
at step 1 above



hi friends some of you know I have selected PO in canara bank
yesterday I get mail from the bank
their they have attached some pdf files and some emz files
specially emz files are not opening
please guide me how can I open it?
it is emerjancy please get back to me soon.



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White keys are happy moments
 Black keys are sad moments.
But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music.
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Re: [AI] Negligence in families of disabled

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Hi friends, thank you for your reply. A common problem of Indian people 
is, hiding evil things occurring in the society. The only way to prevent 
evil deeds against disabled people is, we have to expose such activities 
to the public. According to my knowledge, most of the time mass media 
refuse to report such violence against disabled, because media is the 
part of our bureaucracy, and bureaucracy is the part of grand evil.


On 7/8/2014 7:37 PM, Aravind R wrote:

not only others. even our own family members blame us only for the
misfortunes happening all around the family which is a normal one. its
general tendency of humen to blame on someone for their personal
problems. we have to understand and keep our mind and others healthy
and joyful

On 7/8/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:

You deserve kudos for sharing your humiliating experiences openly; thank
you

I think we blind people also need greats like Omprakash Valmiki
(Jhutan) and Shivraj Singh Bechain (Mera Bachpan Mere Kandhon par);
who by writing their autobiographies have brought the issue of of
humiliation and discrimination faced by dalits in Indian society. I'm
sure many blind people have also gone through similar painful
experiences but documentation is scanty. Inspirational talks certainly
help, but painful personal experiences should also be equally shared
and written about. Afterall, movements and struggles find their
inspiration from such sufferings. And sadly writing, there is hardly
any autobiography exists which highlights the sufferings faced by
author. Those blind individuals who have managed to publish their
autobiographies have persuaded publishers on account of their efforts
to overcome their blindness and can simply be clubbed in the category
of inspirational books..
  On 7/7/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi friends, As a blind person, during my entire life I faced all kinds
of discrimination and negligence from my family and relatives. During my
childhood, I could not walk around my native place because most of the
time i got injuries by public throwing stones to me. Will you please
share your similar experiences?

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Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of
the
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of
death (way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final
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Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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Re: [AI] 3D Printed Ring Reads Out Text In Real Time For The Blind

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi, you cannot purchase this thing right now, its only a prototype. 
Please read carefully before asking something.
Much work remains before it is ready for the market, Shilkrot said, 
including making it work on cellphones.

Hello
Thankyou for ur valuable information but i have some querries about it
1. From where i can get this.
2. How much cost it will be
3. Will it work with all types of papers and its quality.
4. Will it support all type of fonts, colors and backgrounds
5. At those places where it dosent support like pictures, animations, 
what it will do???


From
Dr divyata garg...
Visually challenged
Bhopal, m.p

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From: shahnaz shycur...@yahoo.co.in Date:08/07/2014  8:04 PM 
(GMT+05:30) To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] 3D Printed 
Ring Reads Out Text In Real Time For The Blind




3D Printed Ring Reads Out Text In Real Time For The Blind.


http://phys.org/print324010714.html



Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology are developing 
an audio reading device to be worn on the index finger of people whose 
vision is

impaired, giving them affordable and immediate access to printed words.

The so-called FingerReader, a prototype produced by a 3-D printer, fits 
like a ring on the user's finger, equipped with a small camera that 
scans text.
A synthesized voice reads words aloud, quickly translating books, 
restaurant menus and other needed materials for daily living, especially 
away from home

or office.

Reading is as easy as pointing the finger at text. Special software 
tracks the finger movement, identifies words and processes the 
information. The device
has vibration motors that alert readers when they stray from the script, 
said Roy Shilkrot, who is developing the device at the MIT Media Lab.


For Jerry Berrier, 62, who was born blind, the promise of the 
FingerReader is its portability and offer of real-time functionality at 
school, a doctor's

office and restaurants.

When I go to the doctor's office, there may be forms that I wanna read 
before I sign them, Berrier said.


He said there are other optical character recognition
devices on the market for those with vision impairments, but none that 
he knows of that will read in real time.


Berrier manages training and evaluation for a federal program that 
distributes technology to low-income people in Massachusetts and Rhode 
Island who have
lost their sight and hearing. He works from the Perkins School for the 
Blind in Watertown, Massachusetts.


group start In this Thursday, June 26, 2014 photo, a FingerReader ring 
lies on a book's page at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's 
Media Lab in
Cambridge, Mass. Researchers designed and developed the instrument, 
which enables people with visual disabilities to read text printed on 
paper or electronic
devices. (AP Photo Stephan Savoia)  MIT finger device reads to the blind 
in real time
In this Thursday, June 26, 2014 photo, a FingerReader ring lies on a 
book's page at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Media Lab in 
Cambridge,
Mass. Researchers designed and developed the instrument, which enables 
people with visual disabilities to read text printed on paper or 
electronic devices.

(AP Photo Stephan Savoia) group end

Everywhere we go, for folks who are sighted, there are things that 
inform us about the products that we are about to interact with. I wanna 
be able to
interact with those same products, regardless of how I have to do it, 
Berrier said.


Pattie Maes, an MIT professor who founded and leads the Fluid Interfaces 
research group developing the prototype, says the FingerReader is like 
reading
with the tip of your finger and it's a lot more flexible, a lot more 
immediate than any solution that they have right now.


Developing the gadget has taken three years of software coding, 
experimenting with various designs and working on feedback from a test 
group of visually impaired people.
Much work remains before it is ready for the market, Shilkrot said, 
including making it work on cellphones.


Shilkrot said developers believe they will be able to affordably market 
the FingerReader but he could not yet estimate a price. The potential 
market includes

some of the 11.2 million people in the United States with vision impairment,
according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates.

Current technology used in homes and offices offers cumbersome scanners 
that must process the desired script before it can be read aloud by 
character-recognition
software installed on a computer or smartphone, Shilkrot said. The 
FingerReader would not replace Braille—the system of raised dots that 
form words, interpreted
by touch. Instead, Shilkrot said, the new device would enable users to 
access a vast number of books and other materials that are not currently 
available

in Braille.

group start In this June 26, 2014 photo, a model wears a FingerReader 
ring at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Media Lab in 

[AI] Negligence in families of disabled

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi friends, As a blind person, during my entire life I faced all kinds 
of discrimination and negligence from my family and relatives. During my 
childhood, I could not walk around my native place because most of the 
time i got injuries by public throwing stones to me. Will you please 
share your similar experiences?


--
Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Your case may be exceptional, please don't compare whole society through 
your view point. Indian society is not ready to accept visually 
challenged people at least for next 50 or 70 years. For example, long 
time back when I worked as a web programmer in a company at Eranakulam 
district at Kerala state, I accidentally heard a conversation between my 
colleagues about blind society. On that day, i understood how does the 
sighted people putting distance to visually challenged community. 
Throughout my life, I found women are more aggressive than men in such 
matters.


In Kerala, more blind men are married to blind women. Some blind men are 
married to sighted women. However, most often blind women marry only 
blind men. It is very unusual for a blind woman to marry a sighted man. 
This is due to the privileged position enjoyed by male members in 
families and society. The prevalence of the practice of dowry is also 
attributable to it. At present, unless blind men marry blind women, the 
latter have almost no chance of a wedlock.


Almost everywhere in the world; people with any kind of disability are 
looked down upon as second class citizens. They are less privileged. 
Social barriers are much more responsible for the backward nature in the 
life of people with visual disabilities. Many sighted people in 
regressive societies feel that blind people are abnormal. This is a 
serious misconception that hamper the progress of visually challenged 
society in several ways in India including marriage life.


Do you know, in indian society, what visually impaired people cannot do 
gets more attention than what they can do. Such an attitude on the part 
of society deprives blind people of their basic human rights. Their lot 
is cast in a world of darkness. They drag out their sterile existence in 
silent agony.



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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:47 PM
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concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


If you are blind or not, should not matter at all!!
Madam
there is a gulf of difference between what is and what ought to be...

And why not?
I am blind.
It should matter for my spouse
very much.




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Behalf Of Preeti Monga

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


Dear Ishita,

Why so pessimistic my dear? I am not trying to motivate you or anyone 
else. I am just stating facts. First of all where did you get the idea 
that anyone should marry us blind women for charity  purpose! Not  at 
all! But I am not blaming you for thinking like that. These are normal 
thoughts we Indians are conditioned to believe. You may not want to 
marry a person without hands or legs, that is perfectly up to you. It is 
OK if you feel like that. The point we are trying to make here is, that 
it need not be blindness  that determines the criterion for marriage, it 
is the person in totality that matters. Your skills, personality, 
talents, values and what you have to offer by way of warmth, love, 
commitment and friendship that should matter. If you are blind or not, 
should not matter at all. Now, I have no sight at all, and I know that 
no one wants to marry blind women, not even blind men prefer to marry 
us! But, having said that, I wish to tell you that there are some very 
wonderful marriages that have happened for blind women with sighted non 
disabled men. And when you look at these cases, it is very encouraging 
and motivating. Maybe, if more of us share our positive experiences, 
young intelligent women like you  may look at this subject differently. 
Let us together discover what we need to do to become desirable and 
sought after 

Re: [AI] Need office freeware

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi friend, IBM lotus symphony is a good and accessible freeware suite, 
but unfortunately development has been dropped. If you are not satisfied 
with IBM lotus symphony, you can use libra office with java access 
bridge installed. To use libra office with screen reader, you have to 
enable accessibility options under option dialogue, located at tools 
menu. To enable accessibility support, you can take assistance of your 
sighted colleagues or you can download appropriate registry patch and 
add it to your windows registry. Keep in mind, accessibility features of 
freewares are generally not good.


On 6/24/2014 10:44 PM, Kiran Baug wrote:

Friends,

Any practical experience information for using Jaws with any of office
freeware suite.

My work is highly affected due to uninstallation of Microsoft office
suite in my organization and my work includes using of excel.

On 6/24/14, kiranbaug2...@gmail.com kiranbaug2...@gmail.com wrote:

Not able to access  excel in freeware office.

I also tried open office 4.2 but not able access excel

need help


On a go with Nokia E5-Original message-
From: Bhavya shah
Sent:  23/06/2014, 10:16  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Need office freeware


I have heard about office sweets like Libra Office  Open Office to be
fully accessible.
I may be wrong but still try them.

On 6/23/14, Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com wrote:

try open ofice latest version in openofice.org sight.

On 6/23/14, kiranbaug2...@gmail.com kiranbaug2...@gmail.com wrote:

Friends

suddenly in my organization microsoft office is removed and alternate
office
is installed which is notaccessible with jaws.

Kindly help me with freeware office which is accessible with jaws or
nvda.

Lookin for suggestions and solution


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hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two 

[AI] Need advice for a backup program.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Use windows backup and restore program to make an image of your OS, 
since windows 7.


Hi friends,
I want to update to windows 8.1 from windows8.
Since it is not possible to do a clean install of windows 8.1, I don't
want to download that heavy update again.
Please suggest me any backup tool so that I can backup my drive after
installing windows 8.1 and restore incase my windows goes corrupt.
Thanks,
Ajay

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[AI] How the Brain of a Blind Person Rewires Itself

[Naushad Charivilayil]

 How the Brain of a Blind Person Rewires Itself
Source:
http://sharpbrains.com/blog/2011/03/25/how-the-brain-of-a-blind-person-rewires-itself/

 By: Dr. Pascale Michelon
 Do blind people really have a sharpened sense of hearing? What is the
 explanation? This article reports the work of German researchers who
 looked at blind people's brains to try to answer these questions. They
 found out that indeed, blind people can understand speech even if sped
 up beyond the maximum rate that sighted people can understand. This
 seemed possible because the brain areas devoted to vision in people
 with eye sight turned out to be responding to speech in blind people.
 10 syllables per second [is] the absolute limit of comprehension
 for sighted people. Blind people, however, can comprehend speech
 sped up to 25 syllables per second.
 brain scanner revealed that in blind people the part of the cerebral
 cortex that normally responds to vision was responding to
 speechsomehow an unsighted person's brain rewires itself to connect
 auditory regions of the brain to the visual cortex.
 A perfect example of neuroplasticity! Do you think this happens
 1) only in people who are born blind, or 2) only in people who lose
 sight later in life, or 3) in both cases?
 The answer is 2). Indeed, to be rewired connections need to
 preexist. This is not the case in people who are born blind since
 their visual cortex has never received any visual stimulation. It is
 only in people who lose sight later in life, that the visual
 connections can be rerouted to process auditory information.
 How does it work?
 The fact is that most of our senses have some interacting circuitry
 between them, which is called cross modality. [...] These connections
 between visual and auditory regions of the brain become strengthened
 after losing sight.
 Also, some regions of cerebral cortex that border visual and
 auditory cortices [...] expand territory in blind people to make use
 of the idle circuitry in visual cortex.



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Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of windows.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

hi, i made a 352 mb win PE with necessary tools for technicians, 
including NVDA 14.1 portable.


On 3/21/2014 6:38 PM, Ajay Minocha wrote:

Hello,
What is the size of a 32 byt TWPE iso?
Regards,
Ajay

On 3/21/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

These are the steps to install windows independently.
1. Burn your Win PE iso file to a cd or dvd.
  Note : iso burner will be simple and accessible.
2. Insert your cd/dvd disk into your cd/dvd drive and reboot the system.
3. Make cd/dvd rome as your first boot device, by using system bios or
quick boot menu, and then save the setting and reboot the system.
4. Waite for one or two minute to boot win PE from your cd/dvd.
5. If your sound card is supported,NVDA will start automatically.
6. After loading Win PE, you can remove your cd/dvd from the drive, and
you can insert your windows installation disk.
7. Start windows setup from your windows installation disk.

Please note, Win PE is a scale down and live cd of windows operating
system to repair and install windows, or recover files from corrupted
windows. Your sound card may not be supported because Win PE may not
have necessary drivers included for your sound card. If you are a
service technician, the best choice will be to purchase a generic USB
sound card, and slipstream necessary drivers for your generic sound card
into your Win PE image using windows aik. To make a customized Win PE
with NVDA included, please contact me to my personal email.

email:chittardigi...@gmail.com


On 3/20/2014 12:04 PM, Amiyo Biswas wrote:

Would you please be more specific on how to use this iso file ,
install windows 7 without sighted asistance? I have my windows 7 dvd.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - From: Austin Pinto
austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of
windows.



no.
the drive letter x is associated with the virtual drive of win pe.
so look for any drive letter other than x.
regarding devices not working.
dont install windows from the win pe itself.
after your system is fully started up and nvda starts.
remove what ever is on your pendrive and copy the folders of the
windows that u want to install.
from your windows iso
after just run setup.exe and it will start installing.
winpe doesnt have drivers for all required hardware.
its a slimed down version of windows with just the basic kernel
and boot requirments and normal windows files without drivers for most
of the 3rd party hardware

On 3/20/14, Sunil Sangtani. sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote:

hi, usually the NVDA starts automatically.  you don't need to start
it.  in some cases, its possible  that the audio driver  of the
particular system is not included in the package in that case,  the
NVDA might not work.  one simple way to find where the windows is
install  to look the drives and find the files  of operating system
like windows folder, program files folder etc. or go to disk
management  once you are boot in to win7 p E and you will see the text
something like that: (x:) simple  basic ntfs healthy(  boot, page
file, crash dumb)   primary partition this would be your   OS
partition.
   if your microphone  or any other audio device is not working
properly, make sure the drivers are compatible and have installed
correctly.

On 3/20/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Timy, you have more than two primary partition on your system,
spanning through multiple hard disk. it is more than enough to confuse
win PE. In order to work any operating system, you have to install
your
hard disk properly.

On 3/20/2014 8:57 AM, timy sebastian wrote:

yes no doubt!!! a good discussion is going on here.

I have few doubt regarding this topic,

they are:



  1. will NVDA start automatically, or, do i have to turn it on
manually???

I tried the method which  is describe with win pee, but couldn't find
my c drive, any solution???

  3. I have 2 hard disk 1 is 260 gb and 1 tb aswell, how can i know
that where my windows is installed???

4. I have installed windows from my pen drive, after that, my via hd
audio device, including microphone  is not working properly, am I did
anything wrong???

please my dear friends/ experts help me as soon as possible, its
arjent.

Thank you.



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Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of windows.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

as a service technician I can firmly state, it will work only if your 
sound card is supported.


On 3/22/2014 1:23 AM, Ajay Minocha wrote:

Hello,
Tested the ISO provided by Sunil bro.
It is working 100%!
Thanks all for your valluable inputs.
Regards,
Ajay

On 3/21/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

hi, i made a 352 mb win PE with necessary tools for technicians,
including NVDA 14.1 portable.

On 3/21/2014 6:38 PM, Ajay Minocha wrote:

Hello,
What is the size of a 32 byt TWPE iso?
Regards,
Ajay

On 3/21/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

These are the steps to install windows independently.
1. Burn your Win PE iso file to a cd or dvd.
   Note : iso burner will be simple and accessible.
2. Insert your cd/dvd disk into your cd/dvd drive and reboot the system.
3. Make cd/dvd rome as your first boot device, by using system bios or
quick boot menu, and then save the setting and reboot the system.
4. Waite for one or two minute to boot win PE from your cd/dvd.
5. If your sound card is supported,NVDA will start automatically.
6. After loading Win PE, you can remove your cd/dvd from the drive, and
you can insert your windows installation disk.
7. Start windows setup from your windows installation disk.

Please note, Win PE is a scale down and live cd of windows operating
system to repair and install windows, or recover files from corrupted
windows. Your sound card may not be supported because Win PE may not
have necessary drivers included for your sound card. If you are a
service technician, the best choice will be to purchase a generic USB
sound card, and slipstream necessary drivers for your generic sound card
into your Win PE image using windows aik. To make a customized Win PE
with NVDA included, please contact me to my personal email.

email:chittardigi...@gmail.com


On 3/20/2014 12:04 PM, Amiyo Biswas wrote:

Would you please be more specific on how to use this iso file ,
install windows 7 without sighted asistance? I have my windows 7 dvd.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - From: Austin Pinto
austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of
windows.



no.
the drive letter x is associated with the virtual drive of win pe.
so look for any drive letter other than x.
regarding devices not working.
dont install windows from the win pe itself.
after your system is fully started up and nvda starts.
remove what ever is on your pendrive and copy the folders of the
windows that u want to install.
from your windows iso
after just run setup.exe and it will start installing.
winpe doesnt have drivers for all required hardware.
its a slimed down version of windows with just the basic kernel
and boot requirments and normal windows files without drivers for most
of the 3rd party hardware

On 3/20/14, Sunil Sangtani. sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote:

hi, usually the NVDA starts automatically.  you don't need to start
it.  in some cases, its possible  that the audio driver  of the
particular system is not included in the package in that case,  the
NVDA might not work.  one simple way to find where the windows is
install  to look the drives and find the files  of operating system
like windows folder, program files folder etc. or go to disk
management  once you are boot in to win7 p E and you will see the
text
something like that: (x:) simple  basic ntfs healthy(  boot, page
file, crash dumb)   primary partition this would be your   OS
partition.
if your microphone  or any other audio device is not working
properly, make sure the drivers are compatible and have installed
correctly.

On 3/20/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi Timy, you have more than two primary partition on your system,
spanning through multiple hard disk. it is more than enough to
confuse
win PE. In order to work any operating system, you have to install
your
hard disk properly.

On 3/20/2014 8:57 AM, timy sebastian wrote:

yes no doubt!!! a good discussion is going on here.

I have few doubt regarding this topic,

they are:



   1. will NVDA start automatically, or, do i have to turn it on
manually???

I tried the method which  is describe with win pee, but couldn't
find
my c drive, any solution???

   3. I have 2 hard disk 1 is 260 gb and 1 tb aswell, how can i know
that where my windows is installed???

4. I have installed windows from my pen drive, after that, my via
hd
audio device, including microphone  is not working properly, am I
did
anything wrong???

please my dear friends/ experts help me as soon as possible, its
arjent.

Thank you.



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[AI] Jaws script for tali

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi friends, please send me information of current status about jaws 
script for tali.


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Religion, A Curse Upon Mankind
Religion and fear are historically entwined. The catalysts for most of the 
atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
(way of religion), or eternal way of wisdom and light (the final way to 
destiny).




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Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of windows.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Most of the time, we need to slipstream the drivers of our usb sound 
device. Over last one and half years, I am working to solve some of the 
major issues I encountered during my professional career. Even after 
adding drivers to Win PE, sound card with complex structure will not 
work. Some of the time, even USB sound card also failes work with newer 
systems, because usb hub itself not supported with Win PE. In such case 
we have to add necessary drivers of that particular system (chipset and 
usb drivers) into Win PE image. Most of the time, this is not a 
practical solution for a professional technician like me. Adding more 
stuff into win PE will make it bigger in size and it will claim more 
memory. The ultimate problem is, when we increase the size of Win PE, it 
will not work with older systems with low memory.


Will it not work if I have a USB speaker or headphone?

With best regards,
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Cell: +91-9433464329


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as a service technician I can firmly state, it will work only if your
sound card is supported.

On 3/22/2014 1:23 AM, Ajay Minocha wrote:

Hello,
Tested the ISO provided by Sunil bro.
It is working 100%!
Thanks all for your valluable inputs.
Regards,
Ajay

On 3/21/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

hi, i made a 352 mb win PE with necessary tools for technicians,
including NVDA 14.1 portable.

On 3/21/2014 6:38 PM, Ajay Minocha wrote:

Hello,
What is the size of a 32 byt TWPE iso?
Regards,
Ajay

On 3/21/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

These are the steps to install windows independently.
1. Burn your Win PE iso file to a cd or dvd.
   Note : iso burner will be simple and accessible.
2. Insert your cd/dvd disk into your cd/dvd drive and reboot the
system.
3. Make cd/dvd rome as your first boot device, by using system bios or
quick boot menu, and then save the setting and reboot the system.
4. Waite for one or two minute to boot win PE from your cd/dvd.
5. If your sound card is supported,NVDA will start automatically.
6. After loading Win PE, you can remove your cd/dvd from the drive,
and
you can insert your windows installation disk.
7. Start windows setup from your windows installation disk.

Please note, Win PE is a scale down and live cd of windows operating
system to repair and install windows, or recover files from corrupted
windows. Your sound card may not be supported because Win PE may not
have necessary drivers included for your sound card. If you are a
service technician, the best choice will be to purchase a generic USB
sound card, and slipstream necessary drivers for your generic sound
card
into your Win PE image using windows aik. To make a customized Win PE
with NVDA included, please contact me to my personal email.

email:chittardigi...@gmail.com


On 3/20/2014 12:04 PM, Amiyo Biswas wrote:

Would you please be more specific on how to use this iso file ,
install windows 7 without sighted asistance? I have my windows 7 dvd.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - From: Austin Pinto
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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of
windows.



no.
the drive letter x is associated with the virtual drive of win pe.
so look for any drive letter other than x.
regarding devices not working.
dont install windows from the win pe itself.
after your system is fully started up and nvda starts.
remove what ever is on your pendrive and copy the folders of the
windows that u want to install.
from your windows iso
after just run setup.exe and it will start installing.
winpe doesnt have drivers for all required hardware.
its a slimed down version of windows with just the basic kernel
and boot requirments and normal windows files without drivers for
most
of the 3rd party hardware

On 3/20/14, Sunil Sangtani. sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote:

hi, usually the NVDA starts automatically.  you don't need to start
it.  in some cases, its possible  that the audio driver  of the
particular system is not included in the package in that case,  the
NVDA might not work.  one simple way to find where the windows is
install  to look the drives and find the files  of operating system
like windows folder, program files folder etc. or go to disk
management  once you are boot in to win7 p E and you will see the
text
something like that: (x:) simple  basic ntfs healthy(  boot, page
file, crash dumb)   primary partition this would be your   OS
partition

Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of windows.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

These are the steps to install windows independently.
1. Burn your Win PE iso file to a cd or dvd.
Note : iso burner will be simple and accessible.
2. Insert your cd/dvd disk into your cd/dvd drive and reboot the system.
3. Make cd/dvd rome as your first boot device, by using system bios or 
quick boot menu, and then save the setting and reboot the system.

4. Waite for one or two minute to boot win PE from your cd/dvd.
5. If your sound card is supported,NVDA will start automatically.
6. After loading Win PE, you can remove your cd/dvd from the drive, and 
you can insert your windows installation disk.

7. Start windows setup from your windows installation disk.

Please note, Win PE is a scale down and live cd of windows operating 
system to repair and install windows, or recover files from corrupted 
windows. Your sound card may not be supported because Win PE may not 
have necessary drivers included for your sound card. If you are a 
service technician, the best choice will be to purchase a generic USB 
sound card, and slipstream necessary drivers for your generic sound card 
into your Win PE image using windows aik. To make a customized Win PE 
with NVDA included, please contact me to my personal email.


email:chittardigi...@gmail.com


On 3/20/2014 12:04 PM, Amiyo Biswas wrote:
Would you please be more specific on how to use this iso file , 
install windows 7 without sighted asistance? I have my windows 7 dvd.


With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

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To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of 
windows.




no.
the drive letter x is associated with the virtual drive of win pe.
so look for any drive letter other than x.
regarding devices not working.
dont install windows from the win pe itself.
after your system is fully started up and nvda starts.
remove what ever is on your pendrive and copy the folders of the
windows that u want to install.
from your windows iso
after just run setup.exe and it will start installing.
winpe doesnt have drivers for all required hardware.
its a slimed down version of windows with just the basic kernel
and boot requirments and normal windows files without drivers for most
of the 3rd party hardware

On 3/20/14, Sunil Sangtani. sunilsangtan...@gmail.com wrote:

hi, usually the NVDA starts automatically.  you don't need to start
it.  in some cases, its possible  that the audio driver  of the
particular system is not included in the package in that case,  the
NVDA might not work.  one simple way to find where the windows is
install  to look the drives and find the files  of operating system
like windows folder, program files folder etc. or go to disk
management  once you are boot in to win7 p E and you will see the text
something like that: (x:) simple  basic ntfs healthy(  boot, page
file, crash dumb)   primary partition this would be your   OS
partition.
  if your microphone  or any other audio device is not working
properly, make sure the drivers are compatible and have installed
correctly.

On 3/20/14, Naushad Charivilayil naushadcharivila...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Timy, you have more than two primary partition on your system,
spanning through multiple hard disk. it is more than enough to confuse
win PE. In order to work any operating system, you have to install 
your

hard disk properly.

On 3/20/2014 8:57 AM, timy sebastian wrote:

yes no doubt!!! a good discussion is going on here.

I have few doubt regarding this topic,

they are:



 1. will NVDA start automatically, or, do i have to turn it on
manually???

I tried the method which  is describe with win pee, but couldn't find
my c drive, any solution???

 3. I have 2 hard disk 1 is 260 gb and 1 tb aswell, how can i know
that where my windows is installed???

4. I have installed windows from my pen drive, after that, my via hd
audio device, including microphone  is not working properly, am I did
anything wrong???

please my dear friends/ experts help me as soon as possible, its 
arjent.


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Re: [AI] Regarding recovering files from a corrupt copy of windows.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi Timy, you have more than two primary partition on your system, 
spanning through multiple hard disk. it is more than enough to confuse 
win PE. In order to work any operating system, you have to install your 
hard disk properly.


On 3/20/2014 8:57 AM, timy sebastian wrote:

yes no doubt!!! a good discussion is going on here.

I have few doubt regarding this topic,

they are:



 1. will NVDA start automatically, or, do i have to turn it on 
manually???


I tried the method which  is describe with win pee, but couldn't find 
my c drive, any solution???


 3. I have 2 hard disk 1 is 260 gb and 1 tb aswell, how can i know 
that where my windows is installed???


4. I have installed windows from my pen drive, after that, my via hd 
audio device, including microphone  is not working properly, am I did 
anything wrong???


please my dear friends/ experts help me as soon as possible, its arjent.

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[AI] Accessibility With 3d Printing

[Naushad Charivilayil]

You’ve heard of 3D printing from newscasters and journalists, astonished 
at what they’ve witnessed. A machine reminiscent of the Star Trek 
Replicator, something magical that can create objects out of thin air. 
It can “print” in plastic, metal, nylon, and over a hundred other 
materials. It can be used for making nonsensical little models like the 
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To perform a print, the machine reads the design from an stl file and 
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to build the model from a series of cross sections. These layers, which 
correspond to the virtual cross sections from the CAD model, are joined 
or automatically fused to create the final shape. The primary advantage 
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feature.To perform a print, the machine reads the design from an stl 
file and lays down successive layers of liquid, powder, paper or sheet 
material to build the model from a series of cross sections. These 
layers, which correspond to the virtual cross sections from the CAD 
model, are joined or automatically fused to create the final shape. The 
primary advantage of this technique is its ability to create almost any 
shape or geometric feature. Refer the link below to understand, how this 
technology can affect the life of visually challenged people.


3D-Printed Hubble Telescope Photos Help Blind Touch the Universe (Video)
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atrocities committed by man. Fear of evil fuels religion, religion fuels 
hatred, hatred fuels evil, and evil fuels fear among the masses. It is a 
diabolical cycle, and we have played into the
Devil's hand. There are two ways to choose, faceless and nameless way of death 
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Re: [AI] is there any such software that works with nvda on windows sp2 and will tell me something about a laptop?

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Use driver pack solution.

On 12/18/2013 8:30 PM, austin pinto wrote:

hi all.
in my office i got to repare an old ibm laptop
the laptop has a 10gb hard drive with windows xpsp2 a 312 mb ram and a
750 mhz processer and i need to install the driver for network adapter
but i dont know anything about the laptop just know its made by ibm is
there any such software that works with nvda and windows xpsp2 that
will tell me the name and serial number of motherboard i tried belarc
adviser but it didnt tell anything please help

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Re: [AI] Sending you the speach of einstein

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On 11/27/2013 9:01 AM, Aziz Minat wrote:

Follow the link to download it.

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Re: [AI] About front pannel query.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

You have to enable front audio in realtek hd audio manager, located at 
control panel.
Keep in mind, by enabling front audio, radio interference may increase 
in audio stream. The wire connected to the front audio will work as a 
radio antenna. So, static noises may interfere with your audio listening 
experience.



On 10/17/2013 9:00 PM, gufran ahmed wrote:

try to download drivers as per your motherboard. if you are not sure about your 
motherboard's modle. then please install spexy a free software which wll detect 
your computer's details without opening systembox.

just google it and you will be able to go.with thanks and regards gufran.mobile: +91-7890125197KEEP 
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query about front panel microphone set up on windows7 32 bit.I would like to set my microphone on front 
panel on windows7 32 bit,like we set up on windows xp front mic.I have tried to do but did not got 
success, my system sound card isrealtec audio.Should I have to install any driver for that?If yes then, 
how can I get the driver?Your suggestion and help will be highly appreciated.I will be eagerly waiting 
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Re: [AI] Sound cards which are automatically installed during OSinstallation?

[Naushad Charivilayil]

If you prefer internal sound card, please try low-end sound card like 
Enter. I recently installed an Enter sound card for my customer with 
Windows xp service pack 3, and it automatically recognized.


 9/20/2013 9:44 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafel wrote:

purchase external USB sound card cum connector. Even if your internal
sound card is damaged, it will turn into an external sound card and
you can plug into it 3.5 mm audio jack headphone.

On 9/20/13, Yogesh Chhabra yogesh4...@gmail.com wrote:

no no no, bidhwin, it would be an extra investment for me if I will go
for USB speekers as I have 2.1 speeker system and my IN-built sound
card has been damaged (not working).

On 9/20/13, bidh...@gmail.com bidh...@gmail.com wrote:

Using external usb headset or speaker is a good option cause it doesn't
require any sound driver.
Send from nokia c5.-Original message-
From: Shireen Irani
Sent:  20/09/2013, 8:51  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Sound cards which are automatically installed during
OSinstallation?


well in that case sorry for my ignorence. all i know is that i do use
real tech on my laptop, and it gets activated everytime i insert or
eject an audio device such as headphones etc.
as far as i'm aware it was an additional thing that was installed by
choice. it was not the default audio driver.
please ignore if this doesn't make sense or is not of any help.

On 9/20/13, Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com wrote:

No no, I guess you've misunderstood his question. Real tech is the
driver
for your sound card. Real tech is not the sound card actually. The sound
card will be two ways as far as I'm aware. One is internal or known as
onboard sound card and the other one is external sound card.

-Original Message-
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Of Shireen Irani
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Subject: Re: [AI] Sound cards which are automatically installed during
OSinstallation?

yes. it was installed separately. its not in built.
true xp is ancient and a lot of stuff is not supported properly any
more. but that just means that i face minor issues. it hasn't
completely been stopped being supported.
i know ive just been a bit lazy about upgrading since ive moved to a
different city and want to do it with my own trusted sources from my
hometown.
anyway at least there r no issues with realtech for sure.


On 9/20/13, Yogesh Chhabra yogesh4...@gmail.com wrote:

at shireen, is your sound card is a separate one or an onboard
(in-built) card? did you purchase it separately?

On 9/20/13, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:

i'm using windows xp and real tech works fine for me too.

On 9/20/13, Yogesh Chhabra yogesh4...@gmail.com wrote:

hello I.T. experts, I would like to enquire about the internal sound
cards which are automatically installed during OS installation
(generic sound cards). the card that will install automatically
during
windows 7 and windows xp installation.
experts, shed some light on it and suggest me a sound card.

Yogesh Chhabra

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Re: [AI] Anyone proficient in Java with screen readers?

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi, to learn java, you must install one of the java sdk version and java 
access bridge, and add appropriate values to windows environment 
variables. To write a program in java, you only need windows notepad. 
Use windows command prompt to compile your program. When you are dealing 
with command prompt, NVDA provides more flexibility than jaws. According 
to my opinion, Thinking in java by *Bruce Eckel* is the best book 
available for beginners. In most advanced level, you can use accessible 
integrated development environments like java eclipse. If you need any 
help on this matter, please contact me off-list.


email : chittardigi...@gmail.com
On 9/17/2013 7:07 AM, Vamshi. G wrote:

Dear friends,

One of my friends wants to learn Java with screen readers.  Is there
any useful tutorial?  Anyone ready to provide initial guidance?
Please reply.



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Re: [AI] ability to work in BPO

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi, if you want to tackle this problem, purchase a tapi (Telephony
Application Programming Interface) compliant external or internal
modem, and attach it to your computer. For a laptop, external USB
modem will be the only choice. After that, you install those programs
from the cd provided by the manufacturer. Most of the times those
programs may not be accessible with jaws or other screen readers. If you
are using jaws, you can use hotspot clicker utility script to make it
accessible. Use a good sterio headphone with mike to receive calls from
customers. If you turned-off sterio-mix property of the sound card,
customer will not hear any disturbance from screen readers. If everything
goes right, certainly, customer will feel disturbance only from your
mouth.

Mail:chittardigi...@gmail.com
On 9/15/2013 5:33 PM, anjali Anand wrote:

friend,  particuarly those who are working in BPO industry may please
guide and explain as to how we would while using jaws in the computer
before us, take bits of information through phone froman american
caller, without his hearing the disturbing sound of jaws?
i know we can use headphone but how to manage and handle headphone for
jaws and a phone for the caller?
that's exactly the curosity that a prospective employer has before he
can consider employing  our young persons from within us.

I need to explain this to a prospective employer. those who are
experienced and are in delhi, please volunteer to demonstrate, if
needed.
if you like you can send information off the list.

by the way how many and who of you are working in BPO involving this
kind of work?

thanks and best wishes
anjali

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Re: [AI] ability to work in BPO

[Naushad Charivilayil]

Hi, if you want to tackle this problem, purchase a tapi (Telephony
Application Programming Interface) compliant external or internal
modem, and attach it to your computer. For a laptop, external USB
modem will be the only choice. After that, you install those programs
from the cd provided by the manufacturer. Most of the times those
programs may not be accessible with jaws or other screen readers. If you
are using jaws, you can use hotspot clicker utility script to make it
accessible. Use a good sterio headphone with mike to receive calls from
customers. If you turned-off sterio mix property of the sound card,
customer will not hear any disturbance from screen readers. If everything
goes right, certainly, customer will feel disturbance only from your
mouth.

mail : chittardigi...@gmail.com
On 9/15/2013 5:33 PM, anjali Anand wrote:

friend, particuarly those who are working in BPO industry may please
guide and explain as to how we would while using jaws in the computer
before us, take bits of information through phone froman american
caller, without his hearing the disturbing sound of jaws?
i know we can use headphone but how to manage and handle headphone for
jaws and a phone for the caller?
that's exactly the curosity that a prospective employer has before he
can consider employing  our young persons from within us.

I need to explain this to a prospective employer. those who are
experienced and are in delhi, please volunteer to demonstrate, if
needed.
if you like you can send information off the list.

by the way how many and who of you are working in BPO involving this
kind of work?

thanks and best wishes
anjali

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Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

[Naushad Charivilayil]

On 9/8/2013 11:03 PM, habeeb. c wrote:

Hello friends,
as we are conducting serious discussion on developing NVDa, i'm going
through an unsolvable dilemma. Developing a screenreader is a really
commendable thing, but what if it is not afordable and not attainable
to most people in a country. I know that the screenreader here is free
of coast, but how about the operating system. How many of us can aford
to pay for windows to install the particular screenreader.
We have already got Orca in linux, the facilities in Orca is available
in regional languages also. It has many problems, but they can be
easily solved, if there is a collective initiative from the part of
government, NGOs and other related circles. I doubt why all such
initiatives go to the corporate circle, and why the open source is
completely neglected. I don't know how many of my friends will be
comfortable with this idea, but if we don't have a collective
bargaining for such developments which are for all alike, the use of
technology will be limited to a miniscule minority, as it is now.
Apple I phones are the most advanced technology available today,
Howmany of us can purchase it?
regards

On 9/8/13, Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I mean the symbols dialog box in MS word.

Regards,

On 9/8/13, Ejaz Shah e...@gmx.com wrote:

You can enable the speaking of command keys with NVDA+4.
On 08/09/2013 12:54 PM, Parakh Rajesh wrote:

hai, NVDA does not speak enter and escape. what can be done?
regards,
rajesh parakh
- Original Message - From: Dipendra Manocha
dipendra.li...@gmail.com
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phonesand Tabs. ' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE



Insert b command reads the entire window. The command works the same
way as
in NVDA too.

You could also use review keys to read the text in window line by line.

Thanks
Dipendra


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Renuka Warriar Edakkunni
Sent: 07 September 2013 11:47
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones
and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Hello,
I have one doubt.  In JAWS, the download or copying status could be
checked
with the command insert+b, but I couldn't do it in NVDA.  Is there any
mechanism to do it in NVDA.  If no, my suggestion is to get it done.

Renuka.

On 9/7/13, Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com wrote:

Scripting is cool framework to enhance capabilities of jaws. How ever,
it is new language for many and to get jaws configured for speicif
requirements, we could hardly find people who could do jaws scripting.

With NVDA development team development, we are trying to create a pool
of knowledge resource that could help us deal with such situations.

I hope once this project becomes a movement, more python developers
would be able to fix and address special configuration issues at much
faster pace.

I am amazed at the number of projects going on in India itself who try
to develop tools for blind for computers. If these teams become
contributors to NVDa project, we may end up having an army to deal
with.

This may happen if as users we ask for NVDA when we come to providing
accessibility to computers.

Thanks
Dipendra


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: 06 September 2013 20:05
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] NEW EXCITING DEVELOPMENT IN SCREEN READING SOFTWARE

Over the last year or so, I have been trying to use more and more of
NVDA though Jaws remains my primary screen reader. As so many people
have already pointed out, the Jaws cursor like functionality is a
difficult part. As Harish Ji has already pointed out, the steps are
not as complicated as they might sound , but it is difficult to
understand at first, particularly for a Jaws user.
Another issue is with Jaws scripts, life is made so much easier with
Jaws with applications like Skype and GoogleTalk. Jaws can kind of
work with these applications, particularly the former without scripts
but not that well. I find the experience is same with NVDA, if they
could integrate the functionalities provided by Jaws Scripts to NVDA
as well, things could become a lot better.
Another thing might be specific to my style of use. I like the Jaws
function of Jaws key + Enter moving the web page by a few frames,
particularly useful when reading newspapers and such stuff. Has to
keep arrowing down in NVDA and that is something I really don't like.
This is a wonderful initiative and I hope NVDA continues to evolve and
go from strength to strength.

On 9/6/13, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

I was also thinking of the same. A nice 

Re: [AI] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

He just express the view of politician and common people in India, about 
visually challenged society. I recently faced similar experience from 
the office of Kerala chief minister.


On 9/8/2013 1:21 PM, Parakh Rajesh wrote:

now he is regional director of NIVH chennai, which is the top post there.
regards,
rajesh parakh
- Original Message - From: Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
mobilephonesand Tabs. ' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.


This cannot be excused or apologized, in my opinion. By sittin' in 
the top
rank, as an in charge of NIVH regional centre and being a research 
officer,
he's acting silly. If we left this without any strict action, I'm dam 
sure
people like him will follow the same. They will start teasing us and 
will

start accusing our society without any fear. We must show how far we are
strong and up to what level we can move if we are affected. We 
shouldn't let

them imagine as we know nothing. Teach him a good lesson, I say.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Mahesh S. Panicker
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:28 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phonesand Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.

If he made the said statement, I don't think an apology would really
mean much as far as his moral right to hold such an important office
is concerned. It is disgraceful and seriously unbecoming of an
officeholder of that kind, and hence he should be sacked, apology or
no apology.

On 9/7/13, Raaj vennillaicecr...@gmail.com wrote:
No no. I cannot accept that apology. So people can say anything and 
go for

an apology by the next second? If we leave it this way, I'm sure that
bugger
will do it again and again and go for an apology. Take strict 
action. As I
said, forward this to the director and social welfare ministry and 
let us

do
whatever we can until he is getting punished.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

Behalf

Of S R Mittal
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 9:22 PM
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobilephonesand Tabs. '
Subject: Re: [AI] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.

I have just now heard tha Dr. Arivanandam has tender apology. Hence, I

feel

this metter should close now.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

Behalf

Of George Abraham
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:19 PM
To: 'Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phonesand Tabs. '
Subject: Re: [AI] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.

He appears to be sharing some kind of research findings!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

Behalf

Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 September 2013 15:25
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [AI] let all of us stand abreast to curb this menace.

I know this gentleman for quite a while. It is shocking to hear such

words.
I dearly hope something is lost in translation (a lot of sense that 
is),
but if he has said this then someone must file a PIL and direct the 
courts

to make him withdraw the statement.

On 9/6/13, Shireen Irani shireen@gmail.com wrote:

forwarding an important mail from the other mailing list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Balanagendran balanagendran@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:07:01 +0530
Subject: [SayEverything] let all of us stand abreast to curb this 
menace.

To: sayeverything sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org

Respected moderator and members of say everything, kindly read below
to know how we, the visually challenged have been projected by the
official who is appointed to work for the betterment of us. i request
you all to read and suggest the measures to bring this official to
public media and to justice. here it goes.
the translated statement given below were delivered by Dr. I.
Arivanandham, regional director of NIVH (national institute for the
visually handicapped) chennai, on 27th august during the conference on
orientation programme on equal opportunities. kindly read below and
do something.
people with total blindness do not know how to clean their teath,
they do not know of cleanliness, they do not know how to take a clean
bath, and even they do not have proper dressing sense. Moreover, a
totally blind mother do not know how to lift her new borne child, and
they do not know how to breastfeed. totally blind people will always
feel that they are insecure. On the other hand, the partially blind
are more arrogant. They always hate to have a walking stick. They
indulge in 

Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, hearing /speech impaired.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

If I am right, someone ask about enhancing dreams as sighted person.

On 2/1/2012 1:01 AM, Vetrivel Adhimoolam wrote:

Just to remind you, noone here is concerned with dream enhancement and that's 
beyond our subject here. Let's not deviate from the subject please?

Vetri.


I am in India at the moment. +919486123815.


Sent from my Nokia N97 mini via BSNL internet using talks, a screen reader 
for S60 devices.

-original message-
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,  hearing 
/speech impaired.
From: Naushad Charivilayilchittardigi...@gmail.com
Date: 02/01/2012 12:48 AM

I am pasting an article about how to enhance dream below.

Acetyl choline  Dreaming

Acetyl choline is a neurotransmitter, a chemical that carries messages
between brain cells. Most dreams occur during rapid eye movement, or
REM, sleep, when
acetyl choline levels are high, as they also are during alert
wakefulness. By observing the effects of deficiencies, scientists know
that acetyl choline
is essential to sleep, dreaming, learning and memory, although the
precise nature of the connection is unclear. A healthy diet gives you
all you need, but increasing your intake of foods rich in lecithin and B
vitamins might help encourage more vivid dreams.
Boosting the acetyl choline in your diet may encourage vivid dreams, but
dream researcher Ryan Hurd advises exercising caution before taking
dream-enhancing
dietary supplements, since they can also encourage nightmares. According
to Bastyr University, foods containing lecithin, often added as an
emulsifier
to mayonnaise, sauces and dressings, promote the production of
acetylcholine in the body. Eggs, seafood, beans, broccoli, cauliflower,
dairy products,
nuts and other foods rich in B vitamins are all sources.

DREAM RESEARCH

Much is known about the physiology and biochemistry of sleep, yet why
dreaming is vital to mental and physical health remains a disputed
enigma. Some researchers
maintain that dreams are the sleeping brain's equivalent of deleting
junk email to highlight more important messages. Others ascribe great
significance
to dream imagery, believing it to be the language used by the
unconscious to communicate with the conscious mind. Harvard University
emeritus professor
J. Allan Hobson, a modern pioneer of dream research, theorizes that
whether asleep or awake, the mind has an overwhelming need to extract
meaning from
experience. A simpler theory holds that sleep and dreams are simply
nature's way of keeping us out of trouble at night.


On 2/1/2012 12:30 AM, Sameer wrote:

Dear Rajesh Sir,

I am a late blind  have been blind for nearly 11 years now.

Before losing my sight, my dreams used to be visual with little
participation from the other senses. But after losing sight, my dreams
are now more balanced between the visuals  sounds. Perhaps the
continuation of the visual portion of the dreams is because my brain
has learned how to see  still applies the memories of things seen
previously into my dreams.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
- Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh
rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,
hearing /speech impaired.



One query to all those who have gone blind late in life and have
memories of dreaming both as sighted and blind.
Do dreams remain predominantly visual even after losing sight?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rupa
mukherjee
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:54 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,
  hearing /speech impaired.

Hello friends,
A very nice  interesting topic to discuss. It's an opportunity to
know, how different people express their thoughts  desires while
dreaming. We never decide to visualise unpleasant dreams, but still
sometimes we see them.
I would like to share my feelings  views on the same, hope many have
the same view on this!
I lost my vision about 26/years back, but still now in dreams, I see
colours, faces  objects, which I never saw even! May be I am a late
blind  seen colours  faces etc, helps me to visualise the things
better, but how, is my question?

I think, while talking to someone or touching or listening about
something, we imagine a basic image of that person or object  in our
dreams also we imagine that only. We might not visualise it actually,
but as we imagine during talking, touching or listening, we imagine
the same  say we can see all while dreaming. It's all our imagination
power, which really allows us to see in dreams  smile!
Sometimes in my dreams, I know I am blind, but still I see certain
colours, objects etc, really don't know why? It's really a puzzle, how
I visualise things in dreams, that too very clearly!
I even see new things also 

Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, hearing /speech impaired.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

I am pasting an article about how to enhance dream below.

Acetyl choline  Dreaming

Acetyl choline is a neurotransmitter, a chemical that carries messages 
between brain cells. Most dreams occur during rapid eye movement, or 
REM, sleep, when
acetyl choline levels are high, as they also are during alert 
wakefulness. By observing the effects of deficiencies, scientists know 
that acetyl choline
is essential to sleep, dreaming, learning and memory, although the 
precise nature of the connection is unclear. A healthy diet gives you 
all you need, but increasing your intake of foods rich in lecithin and B 
vitamins might help encourage more vivid dreams.
Boosting the acetyl choline in your diet may encourage vivid dreams, but 
dream researcher Ryan Hurd advises exercising caution before taking 
dream-enhancing
dietary supplements, since they can also encourage nightmares. According 
to Bastyr University, foods containing lecithin, often added as an 
emulsifier
to mayonnaise, sauces and dressings, promote the production of 
acetylcholine in the body. Eggs, seafood, beans, broccoli, cauliflower, 
dairy products,

nuts and other foods rich in B vitamins are all sources.

DREAM RESEARCH

Much is known about the physiology and biochemistry of sleep, yet why 
dreaming is vital to mental and physical health remains a disputed 
enigma. Some researchers
maintain that dreams are the sleeping brain's equivalent of deleting 
junk email to highlight more important messages. Others ascribe great 
significance
to dream imagery, believing it to be the language used by the 
unconscious to communicate with the conscious mind. Harvard University 
emeritus professor
J. Allan Hobson, a modern pioneer of dream research, theorizes that 
whether asleep or awake, the mind has an overwhelming need to extract 
meaning from
experience. A simpler theory holds that sleep and dreams are simply 
nature's way of keeping us out of trouble at night.



On 2/1/2012 12:30 AM, Sameer wrote:


Dear Rajesh Sir,

I am a late blind  have been blind for nearly 11 years now.

Before losing my sight, my dreams used to be visual with little 
participation from the other senses. But after losing sight, my dreams 
are now more balanced between the visuals  sounds. Perhaps the 
continuation of the visual portion of the dreams is because my brain 
has learned how to see  still applies the memories of things seen 
previously into my dreams.


Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
- Original Message - From: Asudani, Rajesh 
rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,  
hearing /speech impaired.



One query to all those who have gone blind late in life and have 
memories of dreaming both as sighted and blind.

Do dreams remain predominantly visual even after losing sight?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rupa 
mukherjee

Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:54 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, 
 hearing /speech impaired.


Hello friends,
A very nice  interesting topic to discuss. It's an opportunity to
know, how different people express their thoughts  desires while
dreaming. We never decide to visualise unpleasant dreams, but still
sometimes we see them.
I would like to share my feelings  views on the same, hope many have
the same view on this!
I lost my vision about 26/years back, but still now in dreams, I see
colours, faces  objects, which I never saw even! May be I am a late
blind  seen colours  faces etc, helps me to visualise the things
better, but how, is my question?

I think, while talking to someone or touching or listening about
something, we imagine a basic image of that person or object  in our
dreams also we imagine that only. We might not visualise it actually,
but as we imagine during talking, touching or listening, we imagine
the same  say we can see all while dreaming. It's all our imagination
power, which really allows us to see in dreams  smile!
Sometimes in my dreams, I know I am blind, but still I see certain
colours, objects etc, really don't know why? It's really a puzzle, how
I visualise things in dreams, that too very clearly!
I even see new things also very well! Very surprising, but it's true.
I always regret, when the dream gets over!

Thanks  regards



On 1/28/12, Naushad Charivilayil chittardigi...@gmail.com wrote:
We can assume human brain as an information limited sub-reality 
machine.
Human brain create a sub-reality about what you see, hear, touch or 
feel

through the skin. This phenomenon is called persistence. Remember, when
your conscious, brain create a sub-reality, that happened micro-seconds
ago. Same way, Brain can create a sub reality in the form of dreams
because of your previous experiences like, peculiar

Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

[Naushad Charivilayil]

My friend, I heard your speech several times at different place. You 
understand one thing, private sector always consider visually challenged 
employees as their last resource. Certainly they are giving employment 
to someone, only to fulfill social responsibilities. I highlight this 
point from my experience with private sector. I think, this is because 
the influence of social media like, film, news papers and tv channels. 
They always try to highlight our incapability.



On 1/27/2012 9:38 PM, Mohammed Asif Iqbal wrote:

Sorry for the delay in reply.
I think this is absolutely bull shit. Yes grass is not all green at private
sector but it is indeed making an effort. MNC such as IBM are global leader
in diversity and they practice diversity in real sense in India as well.
There are many company such as Pwc, Pepsi, etc.
Please state facts before you reply.
Asif


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pankaj Kwatra
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:32 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hello All,

Adding few points :

1. Keep private sector as your last option for employment as government
or public sector has more benefits / security.

2. Equal opportunity employer is just a buzz word as MNC's do not follow
anything and their policies change with countries.

3. Hiring a disabled in private sector is just branding exercise and
fulfilling social responsibility clause.

4. Private sector do not have any policy for promotion , salary
revisions or benefits to PWD's .

5. Private sector will keep PWD's on contracts and there is no arbitrary
or legal protection.

RGDS,

Pankaj Kwatra


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sudhir R
(NeSTIT)
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:36 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hi Govind !

You can address me  in whichever manner you are comfortable with, dear.
I am always available at 098 472  76 126.

I agree with Rajesh's views about the public sector  under-utilising
persons with disabilities, but, frankly, in these tumultuous times, with
EMI payments on home, car or personal loans dangling over one's head, it
is indeed  a comforting thought to know that one's payslip will keep
arriving  without fail till the age of retirement. (smile)

Having said this, I must hasten to add that even PSUs are not actually
safe enough,  as I myself discovered in 2004.  The then NDA govt was
following a policy of strategic disinvestment (viz. diluting a majority
stake in public sector units) and   a moratorium on retrenchment was
built into the Share Holders' Agreement that afforded protection of just
one more year of service to the unionized workforce (not officers).  The
companies that were disinvested  (like BALCO, Modern Food Industries
Ltd) etc promptly restructured their workforce exactly at the end of
one year of disinvestment, giving a golden handshake to its disabled
employees.  I had lengthy telephone consultations with Dr Uma Tule, then
CCPD, and legal experts like Dr Bhushan Punani (BPA, Ahmedabad) and they
were unanimous in their view that the PWD Act's protection was available
only when the government was in control in a unit.  The fate of disabled
employees in a company after disinvestment was a gray area (and still
is, if I am not mistaken) and this was one of the motivating factors for
me to opt for voluntary retirement when the Govt put my previous
employer on the chopping block.

Public sector banks are safer since there seems to be some consensus
among political parties that they should not be privatized.  However,
the safest bet is joining the Government itself.  One can find
fulfillment in life through other avenues, you know, once financial
security is ensured.

A lot of so-called equal opportunity employers quietly dumped their
disabled resources during the melt-down in 2008.  Similar trouble lies
ahead  with  clouds gathering in the economic firmament.

All the best for your hunt for a safe harbour...

Rgds

RS

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Govind
Reddy
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:15 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] Comparing Apples with Apples

Hi Sudeer If I can address you as,
I accept all your views and opinions expressed on the 12th of this
month.
Private companies may provide you with lot of luxuries to get their
work done, but we should always be ready to face cyclones in the form
of global economic recession, performance appraisals, quality
assurance and so on.
I've been working with different private companies including GE global
servicing in hyderabad for the past 3 years.
I've just started struggling to find a good place in the public sector
units.

Re: [AI] seeseeking guidance for configuration of thunder bird.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

1. move cursor to top, before writing your message by using ctrl + home 
keys.

2. make a blank line by pressing enter.
3. again move cursor to top and write your message.
On 1/27/2012 10:59 PM, selvi wrote:
Hai Friends, please guide me to configure thunder bird since my reply 
goes always at bottom instead of top of the page.



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Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, hearing /speech impaired.

[Naushad Charivilayil]

We can assume human brain as an information limited sub-reality machine. 
Human brain create a sub-reality about what you see, hear, touch or feel 
through the skin. This phenomenon is called persistence. Remember, when 
your conscious, brain create a sub-reality, that happened micro-seconds 
ago. Same way, Brain can create a sub reality in the form of dreams 
because of your previous experiences like, peculiar thoughts, 
persistence of your surroundings, fearful experiences during your 
childhood period and so on, in the presence of subconscious mind. In 
this case your brain does not have previous experience of vision. So it 
is impossible to get a dream with eyesight.



On 1/27/2012 7:31 PM, m.chandrashekar wrote:
dear friends, i am getting dreams only voices, touches etc. no visual 
experiences. in the dream also i am blind. this is very bad. is there 
any methods to get visual dreams? i can imagine lot of things like a 
sighted man, but, it is not appearing as a dream. atleast in the 
dream, i wish to become sighted.

with best regards
m.chandru
- Original Message - From: bijal patel 
bijalpatel...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,  
hearing /speech impaired.



Hello all,
I lost my vision gradually and now even no light perception. If I am
talking about dreams, no any difference between present and past. Same
human being’s faces, moments and world which I saw earlier. In my
daily routine life, I feel same visualization of objects, places and
relatives of which I saw in my past. Many times, during conversation,
my mind starts to imajine very minor human actions like moments of
eyes, lips, nose, including entire body according opposite person’s
voice and situation. So several times, I forget whether I have really
no vision. I don’t know it’s a power of strong imagination,
visualization or memory. Yes, it’s true, now having no colour
perception, my mind doesn’t focus on colouring world, so many times, I
use to ask colour of objects, and then no problem!
Still waiting for experiences of totally/blind members.
While writing mail, one more query, Is there any devise which can show
our visualization or night dreams? Really smiling.
Thanks a lot for all interest.
Bijal.

On 1/24/12, hemase...@ingvysyabank.com hemase...@ingvysyabank.com 
wrote:


 I too lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period. I cont see 
any

images.con't even see my parents faces.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]On Behalf Of Sudhir R
(NeSTIT)
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:41 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,
hearing /speech impaired.


Did you lose your eye sight instantaneously (as in an accident like
Harish) or over a very brief period of time (like Payal ) ?

In such cases, the images stored in your brain must be crystal clear
till the n- 1'st moment.

In my case, I lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period
Perhaps, my brain stored progressively degraded images.

Does this explain the difference between the two sets of contradictory
reports ? (smile)

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sandeep
Singh
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, 
hearing /speech impaired.

Hi,
My experience is totally different. I still see the images and
colours and evrything else as vividly as I used to. I can even see
the faces of people exactly as I remember them and also as Harish
wrote of those I have never seen.
Best regards,
Sandeep

At 11:54 AM 24-01-12, you wrote:

Yes, indeed, Rajesh, there is a gradual deterioration in the quality of
images during dreams over the last 11 years of my total sight
impairment.  As if, the archived visual data  is degrading over a

period

of time.

This is surprising,  since I was under the impression  that the   brain
continued to store information with  data integrity even long after the
individual could actually recollect it.  I have read about experiments
where electrical stimulation of brain areas made the person actually
hear a song long after he had ceased to remember it.  Your considered
views on this interesting subject, please, as an expert in human
Psychology. (smile)

RS

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:09 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, 
hearing /speech impaired.

I wonder how clearly those who have lost sight late in life can have
visual perceptions in dreams?
Whether