Re: Moderator: Off-topic Re: [AI] Welcome: Release of Dr. G N Saibaba

[Shireen Irani]

If the dignity of prisoners with disabilities (irrespective of their
so-called political affiliations) is a topic forbidden on a forum that
has such a large reach, then one may as well be removed from it which
I'm sure is what you Harish are going to do given my email on a thread
closed by your honour.
I love the way you let all the goons of the community have their say,
make your own two-bit judgement on the issue, and only then, close the
thread. How very convenient power is.
Shireen.
P.s., hope the blind goons on the list understand that anything they
say after this will have fallen on deaf ears because I would have been
removed with immediate effect.
*Laughs on you!*
Best wishes.

On 10/17/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:
> All
>
> This thread is closed with immediate effect.
>
> The said person is technically released and not released clean. Just
> that he is disabled is no reason to discuss here.
>
> Violation of disability rights may be a point to consider. Nevertheless
> he comes really clean, let us not indulge in any conversation here.
>
> Harish Kotian
>
> Moderator
>
>
> On 17/10/2022 17:32, Avichal Bhatnagar wrote:
>> I couldn't agree more with Sandesh Sir!
>> This organization is just using disability to cover its nefarious
>> agenda, which is blatantly anti-national.
>> Its president was also involved in signing of the petition to stop the
>> death sentence of Yakub Memon, a convicted terrorist.
>> I wonder, what's the source of their funding, and is all funding
>> legitimate?
>> Its high time for agencies like NIA and ED to put this organization on
>> their radar, who knows, how many cats might come out of the bag!
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/22, Sandesh  wrote:
>>> Namaskar all!
>>>
>>> Just read this Welcome mail.
>>>
>>> When did Access India become the platform for Naxalite sympathisers and
>>> promoters? NPRD is free to run its Naxal business in name of disability
>>> rights organisation by quoting various related laws and acts. It's free
>>> too
>>> even shelter these hard-core criminals, urban naxals and AntiIndia
>>> elements.
>>> It is even free to mingle disability everywhere to run its "Dukan"
>>> without
>>> any shame and that is too at the cost of making attempts of defaming
>>> entire
>>> disabled society. But why these promotional messages (Spamming our
>>> Inboxes)
>>> of this Saibaba and late Stain Swami are here on AI platform?
>>>
>>> Is NPRD loves to be afiliated to a particular political party? It proved
>>> to
>>> be so again and again. Let's see from current perspective:
>>>
>>> Jairam Ramesh from a particular political party came to the twitter on
>>> October 14 after The Bombay High Court acquitted Saibaba, he wrote to
>>> defend
>>> this criminal that "Wheelchair-bound Prof GN Saibaba’s acquittal after 5
>>> years in jail proves that ‘urban naxal’ tag invented by PM’s brigade is
>>> completely bogus. Many others are still in wholly unjustifiable custody.
>>> Such smear tactics must be resisted.I wouldnt be surprised if PM calls
>>> me
>>> one too"!
>>>
>>> NPRD in tune with this particular Political dispensation is making an
>>> attempt to portray Saibaba and the Urban Naxals as innocent, and that
>>> the
>>> investigation conducted by the police and other authorities was flawed.
>>> NPRD
>>> is bringing disability shamelessly here.
>>>
>>> Since this matter is posted on this list, let me bring few more
>>> observations
>>> here to the knoledge of NPRD as well as its supporters and tears
>>> shedders
>>> for such criminals which they have been doing to blame current political
>>> dispensation and our PM through all possible means including disability:
>>>
>>> Search in GN Saibaba’s house: Sept 9, 2013
>>> HM: Sushilkumar Shinde
>>> PM: Manmohan Singh
>>> Govt: of Particular Political party.
>>>
>>> Arrest of GNSaibaba: May 9, 2014
>>> HM: Sushilkumar Shinde
>>> PM: Manmohan Singh
>>> Govt: of Particular Political Party.
>>>
>>> Saibaba and other alleged suspects were taken into custody between 2013
>>> and
>>> 2014.  Numerous papers, a hard drive, and pen drives were reportedly
>>> taken
>>> from Saibaba’s house by the police. The academic, who had been suspended
>>> by
>>> the university, was imprisoned until the Bombay High Court granted him
>>> bail
>>> in May 2015 on the basis of his health. Before the Supreme Court granted
>>> him
>>> bail in September 2016, he was imprisoned once again.
>>>
>>> In March 2017, they were found guilty of participating in suspected
>>> Maoist
>>> activities. Vijay Tirki received harsh imprisonment since he was a
>>> first-time offender; the other five prisoners, including Saibaba,
>>> received
>>> life sentences.
>>>
>>> The important point here is  Saibaba was arrested first under the
>>> particular
>>> political party and it was the same particular political party that
>>> warned
>>> first of Urban Naxals - “Maoists mobilise urban population through a
>>> front.
>>> These thinkers and academics malign state institutions through
>>> disinformati

Re: [AI] (Info needed on good sound bars.)

[Shireen Irani]

Hello Kota Prabhu,

Before spending on speakers check if you can find the equaliser
settings on your tv and play around with the bass and treble to get
the sound you're looking for. For a clearer sound, your treble should
be higher than the bass. You can keep your bass to about 50 or 40 %,
and then keep increasing your treble till you reach a satisfactory
sound. This should ideally solve your problem.
If not, then speakers would be your best bet.
Again, I'd recommend JBL as I've recently been very happy with their
output. I won't be able to recommend a specific model, but ideally, if
you can, its best to buy these things from an offline store, for
maximum satisfaction.
Otherwise, I'm sure others here can recommend stuff based on your budget.
Shireen.

On 7/5/22, kota prabhu  wrote:
> quite off topic but I  would like to ask,  I  am not liking the sound
> of my new xyami android TV. Idon't want loud sounds but I  wan't
> to   change its sound with more clearer and clarity voice. can I
> change it with speaker? please suggest a  cheapest one.
>
> On 04/07/2022, john clayton  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>  I have personally demoed these bars and they are pretty good.
>>  JBL 9.1, a 5.1.4 soundbar supports both ATMOS and DTX, has rears that
>> can
>> detach and can run wirelessly, need to be connected to the bar to
>> recharge
>> though, but they do last a fare while, about 10 hours or so before that's
>> needed.
>>  A major highlight for this one is the 10 inch sub that is capable of
>> rocking your world, should you let it. Used to own this one, pretty good.
>> tad bit expensive though at 99 98k, when I bought it was around 76k, with
>> 80k as it's MRP, you have the government to thank for these prices,
>> though.
>>  Jbl 5.1 is also pretty great if the 9.1 is beyond your price range, has
>> the same 10 inch sub, the wireless speakers that can be attached or
>> detached from the bar as you wish same as the 9.1, the only thing is that
>> it doesn't support DTSX and Dolby Atmos, but is a good 5.1 channel bar
>> none
>> the less. used to be 50 49k, usually goes for 67k 70k now, again, you
>> know
>> who to thank for the prices. 😂
>>  Talking about the prices in 20k to 40k, I have a few more to suggest,
>> that
>> I have listened to myself.
>>   Sony ht-s40r, decent 5.1 channel bar that has a decent bass, wireless
>> and
>> pretty decent sound over all for it's asking price, no atmos, dd+ 5.1
>> though.
>> Sony HT-S700RF, this one's pretty good with it's tallboy rear speakers,
>> the
>> drawback is that it's wired, but the sound pretty much makes up for that,
>> if you can run them cables to the rears from your placement, After the
>> jbl
>> 5.1 9.1, this would be my go to.
>>  For all those who aren't looking for a soundbar, logitech has a pretty
>> dam
>> good set of 5.1 speakers the 906 that are pretty awesome, again the wires
>> are an issue, no bluetooth, no hdmi but man, the sound at 23k or so, you
>> could find these before at 18k or so, these will beat anything under 30k
>> hands down without  sweating it any. would be my first pick if I could
>> only
>> manage cabling in here. but alas, the woes of when you rent.
>>  Should you have any questions/ looking for something else in a lower
>> range, do let me know, as I have done a fare bit of my research whilst
>> purchasing one of my own.
>>  P.S. I haven't had the chance to demo it, but if you can go for it, I'd
>> suggest giving the Samsung Q950b a try, as I have heard great things
>> about
>> it, and it is similarly priced to the JBL 9.1, if you are thinking about
>> it
>> at all, let me know your experiences if any.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 4 Jul 2022 at 11:00, suhas J  wrote:
>>
>>> a very good morning to all list members, friends I wish to have some
>>> info on good sound bars which I can attach with t.v.Thanks and
>>> regards, Suhas.
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Re: [AI] seeking some advices and ideas may be

[Shireen Irani]

Hi Anirudh,
Yes, colleges are not the most welcoming of faculty with disability,
but do not lose hope. Keep giving your NET till you clear it, even if
you have to give it multiple times. Do not give up on that either,
because it is essential. Once you are qualified, you can also apply to
Universities, who cannot deny you the job.
In the mean time, try and create your profile on places like
naukri.com, glassdoor.com, and LinkedIn. There you can choose which
type of job to be notified about, and every day, you will be notified
of vacancies online and offline, for teachers, professors, online
coaches, content writers, whatever you choose.
Till you get a proper job, do not refuse anything that comes your way,
even if it pays slightly less than your expectation. Content writing
jobs in particular, are available by the dozen. You can select your
subject areas for content writing as well, so that the notifications
are narrowed down to your specific areas of expertise. Just keep
applying to as many jobs as you are able to do, from those
notifications, and take up anything you get, till you clear the NET
and find the right job.
Here's hoping that you find one soon.
Best,
Shireen.

On 5/11/22, anirudh rao  wrote:
> hello there,
> I used to work as an academician a few months back.
> to be precise, I was an English Lecturer working in a degree college
> here in Bangalore.
> I am very much facinated by academia and research.
> now a days, I lost my job and finding that the disability awareness
> and the inclusion mindset in the private colleges here are just nill.
> I was very popular teacher among the students and it had been a good
> atmosphere and a nice experience.
> somehow, I could not clear my NET exam this time and chances to apply
> to government colleges is impossible as well.
> when I apply to the private colleges, I get the interviews good, the
> students are impressed with my demo and I recieve appreciations but,
> denied the job without conveying any reason.
> my second interest is in the journalistic and content writing field.
> but, they do not consider the teaching experience relevant and the
> openings for the freshers is scanty.
> I am really depressed not finding anything.
> I feel shackled all the directions.
> please do give some advices and ideas.
>
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> Anirudh Rao
> your intellectual comrade.
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> join on Skype: anirudhrao3
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> Thank you
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[AI] Any experience with using LaTexx files?

[Shireen Irani]

Hi,

Has anyone used either Jaws or NVDA to read or write in the LaTex file
format? I mainly want to know how compatible our screen readers are,
with this format, and how to go about using it.
Will be grateful for any inputs.
Shireen.

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Re: [AI] as a totally blind person How do you overcome rat fear

[Shireen Irani]

Hi Minar,

Sharing a practical tip that I have seen work a number of times, and
hoping it works for you. But before that, I just want to say, that
fear is irrational, but it is there. As much as anyone, (including
you), tells yourself to get over it, it is difficult to do so,
particularly given that we're blind and our imaginations don't make
things easier at all.
If I were in your place, I would have changed my residence. That is
how scared I am, of any insects; but I know that it is not the most
practical thing to do.
Anyway here's the tip:
Rats do not like strong minty smells. e.g., smells like toothpaste,
vix, etc. But those are still not strong enough to repell rats.
You get something called essential oils in the market. They are mostly
available in beauty shops, so I would recommend that you buy a small
bottle online; they're available on Amazon, Flipcart, etc., and do not
cost more than 3 4 hundred bucks. You can buy the cheapest quality,
because that is the only purpose for which you will be using it. You
can buy either Eucalyptus Essential oil, or pepermint essential oil.
Once you have it, take a small peace of cotton/ any old cloth, and put
3 4  drops of this oil on it. Please be very careful with essential
oils, they are distilled (not mixed or diluted in any other liquids),
and hence are very very strong. You can get a very bad caughing fit if
you end up putting/ smelling too much of it in one shot. So please put
only 2 3 drops of it. You can try this on a table or any other surface
where you can hear the drops falling. That way you will know roughly
how much time it takes for those few drops to fall.
Once you have done that, place that cloth on the area from which you
think the rat might be coming in. It could be a door or window, but it
could also be the drain, or other holes on the florring from where
they might be sneaking in. It would be best to get the pest control
guy, or anyone else who can help  to tell you the places where they
might come from. Accordingly, you can take as many of such cloths that
you need and stuff it in those holes. The rat should most likely run
away from that smell, rather than enter your place. You can change the
cloth every 2 3 days initially, and then increase the gaps once the
rats all learn that this is not the place to go to. And yes, a clean
house does make all the difference.
See if you think you want to give it a try, and again, please be very
careful with the oil. please wash your hands well as soon as you are
done touching it, so it never goes anywhere near your eyes and mouth.
This might sound a bit farfetched, but essential oils are very easily
available online, and there is no harm trying, if it is going to give
you peace of mind, because that is most important. If work and sleep
are affected, then you really should not be ok with these conditions,
because it will affect your health eventually.
Good luck,
Shireen.


On 4/26/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
> Hello friends,
> How do you manage to rescue house from undesirable species like rat?
> they cause undu dammage to our books, food items and some time they
> don't spair electric plugs also. I'm afraid of rat It has dammaged my
> laptop charger.
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[AI] query about the compare merge feature in microsoft word.

[Shireen Irani]

Hi all,
Has anyone used the compare feature in word by any chance? This is
where you can view two documents at one time, so that you can
simultaneously view the original document, as well as the changes made
in the revised version.
In case anyone has used it or knows how to go about it, I'd be very
grateful if you could help me with the keyboard commands, with either
NVDA, or even with jaws. This is a bit urgent.
Thanks so much,
Shireen.

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Re: [AI] Guidance required for spending constructive time with child

[Shireen Irani]

Hi, here are a few suggestions off the top of my head. Please feel
free to choose whatever's possible given your situation, and discard
the rest:
1. Sharpening her other senses and teaching her not to focus only on
her sight. There is this misconception that only the blind have
sharper ears, noses, and sense of touch, whereas sight is enough for
the sighted to get by. You can introduce her to the world of smell,
and enable her to enjoy it, getting her to smell fruits, vegetables,
spices, flowers, leaves, pretty-much anything that you think can be
identified by smell.
The same goes for her sense of touch: you could yourself, or with some
help if you have it, introduce her to the kitchen, and teach her to
identify grains and spices with her senses of touch and smell.
2. Listening to audio books. This is an obvious one, and very
enjoyable, if the story is interesting. There is more than enough
material there, don't think this needs elaboration.
3. Creative writing: This again is so broad and needs not much further
elaboration. You can encourage her to make-up her own stories/ poems/
letters to whoever she wishes to write to (they can also be fictional/
historical characters), You can teach her word-building with the words
she already knows, and to ask questions about issues that she may be
curious about, and then perhaps help her find answers to those
questions using online encyclopedias, etc.
4. Building/ making things: You can use clay, paper, leggo blocks,
whatever you have access to, and teach her to make whatever you know.
You will also find Youtube videos on doing all of this, so even if you
don't know these things yourself, you can find appropriate videos and
show them to her, encouraging her to try imitating what she sees.
5. household jobs: You can do the dishes together, playing and having
fun with soap and water, swabbing the floor, requesting her to help
you clean drawers and cupboards that haven't been cleaned in a long
time. Children love to help, if it is put that way, rather than making
it sound like a chore.
Even helping whoever works in the kitchen, is a great way to introduce
her to the joys of the prep-work that goes into cooking a great meal.
Needless to say, all this should be done strictly with supervision,
and safety measures in place.
6. Growing indoor plants: again, depending on how feesible it is for
you, you could take her through the whole process from planting the
seeds and germination, to daily care, such as watering, adding
fertilizers, etc.
7. Teaching her computer basics: In case you have learned typing
formally, you could teach her to do it the write way, and may be a
couple other things such as cut-pasting, creating a new document,
coupling this with the creative writing part, mentioned earlier.
That's all for now, the music and word-games suggestions are of course
a gold mine. There is a lot that you can do, with just those two
areas.
Happy growing!
Shireen.
On 3/27/22, Pratik Shah  wrote:
> Hello experts, as summer vacation is round the corner for children, ,
> I need to have guidance about how to spend time with children at home
> constructively.
> I am blind and my daughter is normal of 7 years of age. She will be
> having vacation after a week now and I am wondering which games can I
> play with her, how can I involve her in learning upcoming new things
> so that she can be developed physically and mentally . as a blind,
> which options do we have to spend time with our normal child?
> Your valuable response will be a great help to me in this regard.
> Thanks in advance.
>
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> cannot, fold your hands, bless your brothers, and let them go their
> own way. . - Swami Vivekananda "
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[AI] urgently looking to connect with anyone using the 'track-changes' option in word, with NVDA.

[Shireen Irani]

Hi all,

I do use the track changes feature regularly, but I am unable to read
the changes made by others. Also, there is a feature called compare
merge, which allows one to see the changes made by 2 people in a
single document. I'll be very grateful for anyone familiar with this
feature to please get in touch with me and  assist me with this
feature.
This is a bit urgent, so prompt responses will be much appreciated.
Thanks,
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Re: [AI] requesting for urgent help with teamviewer

[Shireen Irani]

Hi, Thank you for your suggestion, I'm relatively new to NVDA, and
have never explored the OCR option. I'd be grateful if you would
suggest  the step-by-step keystrokes.
Thank you,
Shireen.

On 2/6/22, john clayton  wrote:
> Hi,
>  I am actually quite surprised that no one else has suggested doing this.
>  Last I used anydesk, all I needed to do was to OCR the screen using nvda
> and I was able to access the code just fine. you need to be using NVDA,
> windows 10 for this to work, though. also insure your screen shade is
> disabled before you use the OCR.
>   So give that a go, and you could do the same with teamviewer ( don't
> install it but run it instead when the setup asks you to) run the OCR on
> the teamviewer screen when it first pops up, arrow down and read out your
> user ID and password to the person helping you.
>  you can also take sighted help to read out the code by using an app like
> be my eyes and similar.
> Do let us know how you get on,
> best
>
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 16:44, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your suggestions and kind help, I don't use jaws. So
>> I think I'll first try quickassist, and then google hangout if my
>> problem still persists. If anyone knows how to access the password
>> with NVDA on anydesk, I'd be grateful if you'd let me know.
>> The person on the other side is a sighted user, so remote NVDA won't
>> serve the purpose.
>> Thanks.
>> Shireen.
>>
>> On 2/3/22, Siva Suresh  wrote:
>> > sure maybe we can connect and talk about this more. as Amar said using
>> > Jaws cursor to read the numeric information which needs to be provided
>> > to the other person is one way which you can use anydesk. quick assist
>> > is much more accessible and it is a default windows feature. you can
>> > try NVDA remote addon and if you are a jaws user you can try jaws
>> > tandem as well. these are the some alternatives which I can provide
>> > apart from using TeamViewer which is found to be inaccessible with
>> > screen readers.
>> > Thank you
>> >
>> > On 2/3/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> >> try google hangout.
>> >> You need not to share any password with anyone. you both should have
>> >> gmail account screen sharing feature will allow remote access. Remote
>> >> Desktop for Google
>> >>
>> >> On 2/3/22, Siva Suresh  wrote:
>> >>> Hello is there any reason to use only TeamViewer? If you wish to take
>> >>> access of someone’s PC or to access your PC There are other
>> >>> applications which are accessible with screen readers.  Some of them
>> >>> could be anydesk and quick assist. You can take the access of other
>> >>> person’s PC, or someone can access your PC with greater ease. Hope
>> >>> this helps to solve your query
>> >>> Thank you. Sivasuresh
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2/3/22, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The latest version of teamViewer, (version 15), doesn't seem to be
>> >>>> accessible with NVDA; I installed it on my windows 10 laptop and
>> >>>> both
>> >>>> NVDA, and Narrator fall silent when I turn it on and try to navigate
>> >>>> inside the app.
>> >>>> When I reinstalled the previous version, the person on the other
>> >>>> side
>> >>>> cannot connect to my PC, simply because it is an older version.
>> >>>> I request anyone who uses teamviewer regularly to please help/
>> >>>> advice,
>> >>>> as I need to use it really urgently.
>> >>>> Grateful for any leads on whom to write to as well, in order to fix
>> >>>> the problem. Because I've been using teamviewer for years, and have
>> >>>> never faced this issue before.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Shireen.
>> >>>>
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Re: [AI] requesting for urgent help with teamviewer

[Shireen Irani]

Thank you. Will check it out.
Shireen.
On 2/3/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> Ultra viewer is quite accessible with screen readers.
>
>
> On 2/3/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> try google hangout.
>> You need not to share any password with anyone. you both should have
>> gmail account screen sharing feature will allow remote access. Remote
>> Desktop for Google
>>
>> On 2/3/22, Siva Suresh  wrote:
>>> Hello is there any reason to use only TeamViewer? If you wish to take
>>> access of someone’s PC or to access your PC There are other
>>> applications which are accessible with screen readers.  Some of them
>>> could be anydesk and quick assist. You can take the access of other
>>> person’s PC, or someone can access your PC with greater ease. Hope
>>> this helps to solve your query
>>> Thank you. Sivasuresh
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/3/22, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The latest version of teamViewer, (version 15), doesn't seem to be
>>>> accessible with NVDA; I installed it on my windows 10 laptop and  both
>>>> NVDA, and Narrator fall silent when I turn it on and try to navigate
>>>> inside the app.
>>>> When I reinstalled the previous version, the person on the other side
>>>> cannot connect to my PC, simply because it is an older version.
>>>> I request anyone who uses teamviewer regularly to please help/ advice,
>>>> as I need to use it really urgently.
>>>> Grateful for any leads on whom to write to as well, in order to fix
>>>> the problem. Because I've been using teamviewer for years, and have
>>>> never faced this issue before.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Shireen.
>>>>
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Re: [AI] requesting for urgent help with teamviewer

[Shireen Irani]

Thank you all for your suggestions and kind help, I don't use jaws. So
I think I'll first try quickassist, and then google hangout if my
problem still persists. If anyone knows how to access the password
with NVDA on anydesk, I'd be grateful if you'd let me know.
The person on the other side is a sighted user, so remote NVDA won't
serve the purpose.
Thanks.
Shireen.

On 2/3/22, Siva Suresh  wrote:
> sure maybe we can connect and talk about this more. as Amar said using
> Jaws cursor to read the numeric information which needs to be provided
> to the other person is one way which you can use anydesk. quick assist
> is much more accessible and it is a default windows feature. you can
> try NVDA remote addon and if you are a jaws user you can try jaws
> tandem as well. these are the some alternatives which I can provide
> apart from using TeamViewer which is found to be inaccessible with
> screen readers.
> Thank you
>
> On 2/3/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> try google hangout.
>> You need not to share any password with anyone. you both should have
>> gmail account screen sharing feature will allow remote access. Remote
>> Desktop for Google
>>
>> On 2/3/22, Siva Suresh  wrote:
>>> Hello is there any reason to use only TeamViewer? If you wish to take
>>> access of someone’s PC or to access your PC There are other
>>> applications which are accessible with screen readers.  Some of them
>>> could be anydesk and quick assist. You can take the access of other
>>> person’s PC, or someone can access your PC with greater ease. Hope
>>> this helps to solve your query
>>> Thank you. Sivasuresh
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/3/22, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The latest version of teamViewer, (version 15), doesn't seem to be
>>>> accessible with NVDA; I installed it on my windows 10 laptop and  both
>>>> NVDA, and Narrator fall silent when I turn it on and try to navigate
>>>> inside the app.
>>>> When I reinstalled the previous version, the person on the other side
>>>> cannot connect to my PC, simply because it is an older version.
>>>> I request anyone who uses teamviewer regularly to please help/ advice,
>>>> as I need to use it really urgently.
>>>> Grateful for any leads on whom to write to as well, in order to fix
>>>> the problem. Because I've been using teamviewer for years, and have
>>>> never faced this issue before.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Shireen.
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] requesting for urgent help with teamviewer

[Shireen Irani]

Thanks a lot Siva, But I find Any desk also inaccessible. Could you
please guide me on how to access the password etc once you turn on
anydesk?
Thank you.
Shireen.

On 2/3/22, Siva Suresh  wrote:
> Hello is there any reason to use only TeamViewer? If you wish to take
> access of someone’s PC or to access your PC There are other
> applications which are accessible with screen readers.  Some of them
> could be anydesk and quick assist. You can take the access of other
> person’s PC, or someone can access your PC with greater ease. Hope
> this helps to solve your query
> Thank you. Sivasuresh
>
>
> On 2/3/22, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The latest version of teamViewer, (version 15), doesn't seem to be
>> accessible with NVDA; I installed it on my windows 10 laptop and  both
>> NVDA, and Narrator fall silent when I turn it on and try to navigate
>> inside the app.
>> When I reinstalled the previous version, the person on the other side
>> cannot connect to my PC, simply because it is an older version.
>> I request anyone who uses teamviewer regularly to please help/ advice,
>> as I need to use it really urgently.
>> Grateful for any leads on whom to write to as well, in order to fix
>> the problem. Because I've been using teamviewer for years, and have
>> never faced this issue before.
>> Thanks,
>> Shireen.
>>
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>
>
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[AI] requesting for help with reading google slides

[Shireen Irani]

Hi all,

I'll be grateful if anyone can share the keystrokes for reading google
slides online, as I need to access a link that has a presentation that
I'm unable to read.
NVDA falls silent when I try to access it.
I will unfortunately not be able to share the link with anyone, as it
is a confidential official link, but any leads on how I can read it
with NVDA on windows 10 and google chrome will be much appreciated.
Thank you,
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[AI] requesting for urgent help with teamviewer

[Shireen Irani]

Hi all,

The latest version of teamViewer, (version 15), doesn't seem to be
accessible with NVDA; I installed it on my windows 10 laptop and  both
NVDA, and Narrator fall silent when I turn it on and try to navigate
inside the app.
When I reinstalled the previous version, the person on the other side
cannot connect to my PC, simply because it is an older version.
I request anyone who uses teamviewer regularly to please help/ advice,
as I need to use it really urgently.
Grateful for any leads on whom to write to as well, in order to fix
the problem. Because I've been using teamviewer for years, and have
never faced this issue before.
Thanks,
Shireen.

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[AI] A blind man changed Dilip Kumar's outlook.

[Shireen Irani]

It is quite sad to have not heard/ read about this from within the
comunity. It needs to be acknowledged.

"Dilip, as NAB chairman, ran a special beneficiary train from Pune to
Mumbai. In which, he travelled with common people. People would throng at
this opportunity of meeting their favourite star on the journey. In 1960,
when the first such train was run Dilip donated Rs. 50,000 and encouraged
others to donate. The sale of tickets and donations brought huge funds to
NAB."

https://www.awazthevoice.in/entertainment-news/a-blind-man-changed-dilip-kumar-s-outlook-3784.html

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Re: [AI] Creative Writing Webinar for vi students

[Shireen Irani]

Hi,

Was this webinar recorded by any chance?
I'm sorry to have missed it.
Shireen.
On 6/14/21, ishan sangi  wrote:
> Escafate is presenting another webinar on the topic “How to make a career
> in creative writing?”. A question that all passionate and aspiring writers
> need answered. So join us for an informative discussion and get all your
> doubts cleared.
>
> Date: June 15
> Time: 5:30 pm
> Platform: Zoom
>
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Re: [AI] Two blind HSC students find writers at 11th hour

[Shireen Irani]

This is a very serious problem and we hear of such cases every single
year. It'd be great if colleges take up starting a writer's forum and
officially helped at least class 12 students to find writers. They
could make it part of courses like Value Education where students are
graded for participating in social causes. Its not that students are
unwilling, they may just be nervous. Hence  this coming from their
professors may give them the confidence to volunteer.
A letter going out to all colleges from XRCVC and similar
organisations would go a long way towards this endeavour.

Shireen.
On 2/21/20, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
> Two blind HSC students find writers at 11th hour - Times of India
>
> MUMBAI: Until hours before the HSC examination began on Tuesday, the
> parents of two visually impaired students struggled to find them writers
> for the English paper. While a student from Tardeo found a writer late on
> Monday, the brother of Naved Shaikh, a student from Boisar, managed to
> convince someone to write the paper only after they reached the exam
> centre. Class XII students require a writer who is a year younger to them.
> Naved’s brother Suhail said: “We had asked everyone in his college and our
> neighbourhood, but either students were not willing to be a writer or did
> not meet the criteria. We reached out to people on social media too, but to
> no avail. We thought he would not be able to write the exam on Tuesday and
> went to the centre to inform them. There we found some class XI students
> and one of them volunteered, but only for today.” The family is now looking
> for a volunteer to write the other papers. The Mumbai division didn’t
> report any cases of malpractices on Tuesday. Some students at a Borivli
> centre were asked to remove their footwear, but the centre officials said
> they had done so on verbal instructions of the board staff and would not
> follow it from the next exam.
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Re: [AI] CPR, AED, & First Aid training for persons with disabilities

[Shireen Irani]

I think this is a fabulous endeavor Payal! I personally have always
been keen on learning CPR and first aid. Your experience  reflects a
lot of confidence and promise in this being totally doable by the
blind, and its fabulous that you have people/ manufacturers on board
who are already willing to make accessible first aid kits that we can
use. Congratulations also on  your being certified as a trainer! I do
wish that you guys are able to conduct a similar program in Mumbai
too, very soon!
May this truly reach out to as many cities and as many blind people as
possible. Eventually to rural belts too. It would be much more needed
in those areas where hospitals are miles away and the roads terrible
enough to take a life by the time medical care is acquired.
Here's hoping that well-meaning NGOs support and promote this
initiative as much as possible, as yet another step towards our
empowerment.
For now, loads of power to you, Payal.
Best wishes.

Shireen.


On 12/24/19, George Abraham  wrote:
> This is brilliant Payal. Will connect with you in the New Year.
>
> Best,
>
> George
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Payal Ki Jhankar
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 11:18 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] CPR, AED, & First Aid training for persons with disabilities
>
> hi All,
> this might be a lengthy mail. request you to bear with me, since there is
> some useful information here.
> i have, in the past few months begun working with an organization working
> in
> the  field of saving lives- selling medical emergency equipment, disaster
> preparedness, first aid kits, evacuation equipment, and the like. part of
> our job is also to train individuals, and organizations in first-aid, and
> CPR. to ensure i have the facts right, i've aquired a certification from
> the
> American Heart Association's Basic life support programme as a service
> provider. it was interesting to teach the doctors how to work around a
> person with total blindness and partial hearing impairment, while learning
> life saving skills from them.
> going one step further, i was in Bangalore,partnering with Rotary Bangalore
> Abilities-  at Samarthanam Trust last weekend to train persons with vision
> impairment and a couple of other disabilities the art of saving a life.
> a day  long programme taught them how to identify a heart attack, its
> difference from a cardiac arrest and the quick response time.
> additionally, we walked them through all the CPR manouvers practically on
> medical manikins. we also taught them how to use the External Automated
> Defibrillator, the equipment that delivers a shock to revive a heart from a
> cardiac arrest.
> all this is possible for us, the lay people, with and without disabilities.
> since we also deal with first-aid kits, i was keen on having something
> simple for folks who didn't see. for that, i'd had a few sample kits
> designed, and distributed to the participants who had a positive feedback.
> there is always space for improvement and that comes with suggestions from
> the community. the idea is also to make these kits cost effective, and easy
> to use. i have in mind to have one simple travel kit, and one slightly
> involved home kit.
> the purpose of this whole story is to discuss how little is being done in
> this particular space with us, the relatively more vulnerable cross-section
> of society. we all live with families, and are responsible citizens, and
> efficient workers at our work spaces. why then, shouldn't we have the
> ability to be a resource who can save a life? i have only become more
> convinced and passionate about this in the months i've worked at it.
> i am keen to take this knowledge to more organizations, groups, work
> spaces,
> and of course, individuals.
> i would be more than happy to discuss this with anyone interested in
> knowing
> more.
> thanks for having read this, in case you've made it until the end. :) Best,
> Payal
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[AI] Can't see but can crack the code: Times of India.

[Shireen Irani]

May 12, 2019, 16:05 IST

Assistive technology is enabling the visually-impaired get a fair shot
at programming jobs
It's interesting to observe Alok Kaushik at work. You can see him
typing on a keyboard but there’s no screen. There's no mouse either.
Kaushik, a senior application developer with an e-commerce platform in
the UK who works with complex software, is blind. So he has no use for
a screen or a mouse. And he can code just as fast -- and well -- as
the next guy who can see. Coming to his aid is an assistive software
called 'screen reader' that converts written text into speech. That,
essentially, has changed his world.
Alok Kaushik, an IIT graduate, is now working as a senior app
developer in the UK thanks to an assistive software that converts
written text into speech
Thousands of miles away in Delhi, Pranav Lal, a cyber security expert
with Vodafone, can code fluently in computer languages like Python,
Java, C and C++. He, too, like Kaushik, is blind.
“I started by writing simple programs to help me with my school work,"
Lal, 38, said. Today, he can write complex code and has developed a
computer app – a speech recognition software -- for the
visually-impaired.
Lal is an avid photographer and has adapted vOICe -- an AI tool that
offers the blind the experience of live camera views through
image-to-sound renderings -- for the Linux operating system. Images
here are converted into sound by scanning them from left to right. It
associates elevation to pitch and brightness to loudness. “I 'saw' the
black hole using this tool,” Lal smiled.
“Who would have thought that the visually-impaired could do coding,”
said Arman Ali, executive director of National Centre for Promotion of
Employment for Disabled People, an advocacy organisation. "But with
technology, especially screen readers and artificial intelligence
(AI), the visually impaired are being integrated into the mainstream
workforce and are not limited to desk and accounting jobs anymore."
JAWS (Job Access with Speech) and NVDA (NonVisual Desktop Access) are
two popular screen readers while AI tools such as Microsoft’s Seeing
AI enables people with low or no eyesight to "experience" people,
texts and objects.
"Technology is still limited to a small fraction of India’s blind
population," Ali said. “We have to make it accessible to many more and
for that we need the government to look at disability as a development
issue and not a welfare issue.” He added, "For starters, the
government should make it mandatory for all websites to be accessible
with screen reader."
Mohammad Afzal, 36, who lost his eyesight in a car accident when he
was just 14, said programming for the blind these days "is no rocket
science". Employed as a counsellor with Saksham, an NGO that works
with the visually impaired in Delhi, he is busy teaching himself to
code. "I want to get a degree in cyber security," he said. "I am
learning Python, a programming language that’s similar to English and,
therefore, easy to pick up.” Afzal added that he uses apps such as
Ola, Swiggy, Google Maps, Twitter with ease on his smartphone using
screen reader.
To an untrained ear, the screen reader text sounds like a robot
reading out the hurried disclaimer at the end of insurance TV
commercial -- "Insurance is subject matter of solicitation…" -- but
the speed can be adjusted and so can the characters that you want the
reader to pick up. English is normally spoken at a speed of 120-150
words per minute. Screen reader can read up to 450 words per minute.
“"Technology is still limited to a small fraction of India’s blind
population. We have to make it accessible to many more and for that we
need the government to look at disability as a development issue and
not a welfare issue”
-Arman Ali, Executive director, National Centre for Promotion of
Employment for Disabled People
Dinesh Kaushal, a 43-year-old NVDA development manager with Publicis
Sapient, an MNC in Gurgaon, didn't have access to such technology
while completing his school education, but he made the best use of
what was available at the time.
As a student in a special school he was told that he couldn’t study
maths after Class 9 because of his impairment. He was born blind.
Dinesh Kaushal works with Publicis Sapient as NVDA development
manager. Born blind, Kaushal pursued maths despite challenges in order
to make a career in software development
Kaushal believes that students with visual impairment should be
encouraged to study maths and english so that they too can get a
chance to make a career in fields such as engineering and finance.
“I missed out most of the curriculum from classes 6-8 due to the lack
of braille text books,” said Kaushal, who went back to studying
mid-school math using audio books provided by the National Association
of Blind while preparing for an MCA (masters of computer applications)
exam. Today, he's a successful programmer with impressive credentials,
like developing the first open source screen reader, Screen Acces

[AI] requesting for info on accessibility of google hangout.

[Shireen Irani]

Hi,

Would any1 please shed some light on the following about google hangout?:
1. Is it accessible with either jaws or NVDA?
2. What is the level of accessibility, 100 %? or less?
3. Which version of windows, and jaws if it is with jaws?
4. What are the steps to start using it?
Requesting for steps from scratch.

Will be grateful if I can  receive this info at the earliest.

Thank you,

Shireen.

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Re: [AI] Dr. Sharad Philip-the visually impaired psychiatrist as reported in the New Indian Express

[Shireen Irani]

Fabulous!
My heartiest congratulations to Dr. Sharad Philip. I'm particularly
happy for him because I had been among the many who had been
discouraged from pursuing a career is Psycho-therapy at the time.

And despite the few inaccuracies listed, what a fabulous interview
this is! He has said all the things that need to be said about
attitudes towards disability in no uncertain terms.
My best wishes to Dr. Philip.

Shireen.


On 2/23/18, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
> hi,
> i remember having a conversation last year sometime when Dr. Sharad
> Philip's career as a psychiatrist was hanging in the balance after
> having completed his education. he has finally found some of his
> heart's desires as this article below speaks of. this may serve as a
> precedent and also carve a pathway for other aspirants such as Sharad
> to make their careers in medicine.
> Congratulations Sharad!
> https://www.google.co.in/amp/www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/2018/feb/18/bengalurus-doctor-has-poor-vision-yet-a-unique-way-of-seeing-patients-1775107.ampHey
> before reading the article, there are some inaccurate and perceived
> information the newspaper seems to have derived from their
> conversation with Sharad. When I called to congratulate him, he
> mentioned the following inaccuracies:
> 1 there are no courses for the blind that NIMHANS offers . what i had
> meant to say was that NIMHANS was the only institution that allowed me
> to have the service of a scribe to give the online entrance
> examination and also the main written examinations within the course .
> 2 i have low vision due to retinitis pigmentosa and so it is not that
> i do not see my patients at all rather i am unable to see hem as well
> as i would liked .
> 3 i am directly involved in patient care and do not just suggest the
> therapies and go as the article reports .
> the article...
> Bengaluru: Despite poor vision, this NIMHANS psychiatrist has a unique
> way of seeing patients
> By Sridevi S  |  Express News Service  |   Published: 18th February
> 2018 05:01 AM  |
> Last Updated: 18th February 2018 06:57 AM  |   A+A A-   |
> BENGALURU: When Sharad Philip, a 32-year-old man, was handed his
> medical degree at NIMHANS in December 2017, an extraordinary thing
> happened. First, his classmates began to applaud, then their families,
> the faculty and university officials joined in. And within a few
> minutes all the people in Convention Hall stood up and cheered.
> Philip’s face shone with pride.
> Dr Sharad Philip with his mother
> Shalini Raji Philip at the
> NIMHANS convocation
> Dr Philip, a psychiatrist at NIMHANS, has a unique way of seeing
> patients.  In fact, he doesn’t see them at all. He has low-vision
> since early childhood. “Who better than me, who has always been
> discriminated throughout my life, can empathise with the patients
> suffering from mental illness,” smiles Philip.
> Philip has retinitis pigmentosa in both eyes. This condition changes
> how the retina responds to light, making it hard to see. The degree of
> disability is 70 per cent and is permanent.
> Philip recalls that as a kid, he was not able to read what was written
> on the board in classrooms. “When I was in third standard, my mother
> took me to a doctor, who confirmed the disability. My mother was heart
> broken.” But, he decided to struggle against all odds.
> Philip’s day begins just like any of ours. He works at the
> rehabilitation centre in NIMHANS. He stays alone in the hostel given
> to the resident doctors. He wakes up, finishes his daily chores, and
> walks to work in the same campus. He meets patients, suggests  the
> therapy required and goes on rounds with other doctors. He knows a
> knack for getting his patients to relax and open up with him. On the
> other hand, many of his patients won’t even know that he has
> low-vision!
> “I take the help of technology and my colleagues to understand the
> patients’ problems,” he says.
> Clinical examination is one area that Philip feels is challenging when
> seeing patients. He won’t be able to understand the physical features,
> in terms of disability, of his patients and needs assistance from his
> colleagues. But once he gets the reports and diagnosis, there is no
> stopping for him.
> The biggest challenge, according to Philip, is that the lack of
> opportunities for people like him.“NIMHANS is one of the very few
> institutes which offers a course for the blind. I was fortunate enough
> to get admission and get a degree from here,” he says. Philip wants
> other institutions too to give opportunities to people like him.
> Philip is also grateful to assistive technology, like screen readers,
> which makes him less dependent on others.
> Philip has written all his exams with the help of a scribe. Vivek
> Perumal, who has been his scribe for the last three years, says,
> “Philip is extremely knowledgeable. Both my wife and I used to write
> for him. We are no value addition for what he knows. He is one of the
> m

Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media

[Shireen Irani]

Glad and grateful that such a discussion has finally been initiated on
this forum, with some very valid points raised by a lot of members.
How others view, and portray us is largely our own responsibility to
direct, and engaging with these regressive forms of media portrayal is
very necessary, whether it yields immediate realisations or not. Its a
shame if any1 things otherwise, and that has been the main obstacle
holding us back: members of our own community who choose to remain
complacent and ignorant of the larger discourse of disability and
social access. Anyway, let us not let such deterrents hold us back, I
just have 1 small suggestion regarding the letter: You might want to
write this in the 1st-person plural, rather than as an individual, for
it to have greater impact, and even if not, then do say in the
beginning that you write this on behalf of the entire disabled
community, who in unison concurs with the views put forth in the
letter.

1 more thing: whether the interviewer is a friend of the interviewee
or not, is irrelevant to how he conducts the interview, and what
information he wants to make public.
I really request for more of such discussions to take place, because
what we convey about ourselves to the mainstream plays a huge part in
determining how we are viewed and portrayed, and in turn, how much
inclusion and access we are "allowed",
Shireen.


On 1/30/18, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> Again, its a completely useless discussion.
> Ashish was interviewed, and since he doesn't have any problem with it,
> it is useless to suggest otherwise.
> When anybody amongst you gets interviewed, then you can of course tell
> the anchor how to ask and what to ask.
> And, its not for the first time that Arnab covered disability; he had
> also interviewed Nidhi goel when she had been harassed at Mexico
> airport.
>
>
> On 1/30/18, turab chimthanawala  wrote:
>> On 1/30/18, Dinesh Kaushal  wrote:
>>> Yes, I had observed earlier that he used to do extensive research before
>>> interviewing popular people.
>>>
>>> Which means he didn't do his homework before interviewing Ashish. This
>>> instance shows how much importance he accorded to the topic of
>>> disability.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Rahul Bajaj
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 9:08 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled. 
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Deification of the disabled in the media
>>>
>>> I agree - it was clear that Arnab had done no preparation for the
>>> interview
>>> or made the slightest attempt to figure how they function. Not a single
>>> question was based on specifics. It was clear that the sole purpose of
>>> the
>>> interview was to drive home the point that this is so inspiring.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jan 29, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Turabh  wrote:

 If the media  wants  to confer  celebrity status  on the disabled , they
>>> ought to at least  prepare specific questions. Parroting the  same thread
>>> for all disabled  persons is pointless and baseless .

 Sent from my iPhone

> On 29-Jan-2018, at 9:40 PM, Rahul Bajaj 
>>> wrote:
>
> Avichal, in addition to the brilliant points that Alok and Dinesh have
>>> made, I also think that it is worth remembering that this interview is in
>>> many ways emblematic of the way mainstream media views the disabled. So
>>> the
>>> interview cannot be viewed in isolation. Further, how often do mainstream
>>> anchors like Arnab cover the disabled? Given how rarely this happens, it
>>> is
>>> important for us to ensure that the portrayal is not such as to reinforce
>>> harmful stereotypes.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 29, 2018, at 8:12 PM, Dinesh Kaushal
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>
>> You are right that we should not tell Ashish how he should represent
>> his
>>> situation.
>>
>> But we can certainly discuss among ourselves how we want to be
>>> represented and whether we could do anything to change that. Anyone of us
>>> who have any experience regarding media, know that often we do not have
>>> much
>>> control about how we want to be represented.
>>
>> We can also discuss what things we want to represent, but each
>>> individual has full right how they want to be represented.
>>
>> Having said that, there are also some reasons why it would help
>> everyone
>>> if we could dimistify why we achieved what we did. Actually the point of
>>> such interviews is not that we just praise people, we should also learn
>>> how
>>> they did what they did. So I can only request everyone that please
>>> acknowledge role of assistive technology when you talk about your
>>> achievements.
>>
>> Not acknowledging role of assistive technology is equivalent for a
>>> scientist not disclosing the tools used for the discovery an

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

[Shireen Irani]

Rahul,

Are you really comparing your senior talking to u condescendingly, to
sexual harassment? or any kind of work-place harassment? Whatever be
the details of your interaction with the guy, this is clearly only a
case of some  ego clash where he said something to u, just 1 line, in
a tone unacceptable to u. Nothing more than that from whatever you
have reported here. This is again a friendly warning: If this incident
is what is going to get you this offended, you're truly gonna have to
learn to grow layers and layers of skin to survive workplace
nastiness. And I'm not even talking about harassment, sexual or
otherwise,  which till u experience, its best you don't hastily
compare to mere condescension from a senior. I'm not at all
trivialising your issue or your feeling about it, I'm suggesting that
you pick your battles, and fight them economically, for your own sake.
P.S. Every squabble also need not become a disability issue. He may
have said the same thing to any1 else who sent an office boy to summon
him, given his self-perceived position.
Finally, rising above issues and moving on is no small deal. Try it,
and see how strong and able you feel.
Best wishes always,
Shireen.

On 1/5/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Shirin, thank you for offering a more nuanced perspective. However, to your
> point that this is just the way it is and one should get on with it. This
> same argument was made for decades to say that women should tolerate sexual
> harassment at the workplace because men will be men and raising their voice
> would jeopardize their future. When that was not good advice, how is this
> any different? Just a genuine question, no hard feelings.
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rahul,
>> Here are my 2 bits of wisdom!
>> ;-)
>>
>> yes, sadly this is more of a favour than an obligation, and asking the
>> office boy to summon him was perhaps not the best way to do this,
>> given his seniority which he seems to be constantly aware of, from the
>> way u describe him. If u just have to seek help again, you could
>> perhaps go to him personally and request him as a favour to come to
>> your desk, rather than having him summoned. People usually do like to
>> seem helpful, and requesting for favours is often more strategically
>> economical. unless of course it is a legitimate  demand for a right.
>> In a scenario where the general attitude is that we're being employed
>> as a favour in the first place, its best to find as many ways to be
>> the least dependent, particularly on those who might have a say in
>> your performance appraisals etc. Its really unfortunate, but being on
>> top of things all the time, particularly when you're the only blind
>> person around, is really frustrating, but extremely mandatory if we
>> want to hold on to whatever mainstream space we manage to occupy. But
>> some of that knowhow will only come from experience being among your
>> colleagues and identifying their buttons!
>> Just try not to take things very personally for your own sanity, and
>> start afresh each day! U want to stick like glue to that space, till
>> you leave it of your own choosing. Pat yourself on the back for
>> accomplishing things thus far, and face the storm with a firm footing!
>> smile.
>> Best wishes!
>>
>> Shireen.
>>
>>
>>> On 1/5/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I hope this message finds you well. At my workplace, which is a law
>>> firm, I recently confronted a situation which I think I could have
>>> dealt with in a more graceful way.
>>>
>>> One of my superiors, who is not the nicest person to put it mildly,
>>> displayed blatant ableism and unacceptable conduct. We had to get a
>>> hard copy document notarized for filing purposes. Now, when I asked
>>> the office boy to request this superior to come to my desk and help me
>>> in picking out the documents that had to be notarized, as the
>>> documents were at my desk, he called me and said, his voice dripping
>>> with condescension, "Tell me, sir, what can I do for you?"
>>>
>>> Now, I am generally known to have a calm temperament and strive to be
>>> unfailingly polite to everyone. However, his response really rubbed me
>>> the wrong way, to put it mildly. Later, when he came to talk to me and
>>> sensed by my facial reaction that I was not happy with him, he asked
>>> me what the issue was. I told him, admittedly in a very combative and
>>> aggressive way, that his behavior was unacceptable. W

Re: [AI] Learning how to call people out for ableism in a graceful fashion

[Shireen Irani]

Hi Rahul,
Here are my 2 bits of wisdom!
;-)

yes, sadly this is more of a favour than an obligation, and asking the
office boy to summon him was perhaps not the best way to do this,
given his seniority which he seems to be constantly aware of, from the
way u describe him. If u just have to seek help again, you could
perhaps go to him personally and request him as a favour to come to
your desk, rather than having him summoned. People usually do like to
seem helpful, and requesting for favours is often more strategically
economical. unless of course it is a legitimate  demand for a right.
In a scenario where the general attitude is that we're being employed
as a favour in the first place, its best to find as many ways to be
the least dependent, particularly on those who might have a say in
your performance appraisals etc. Its really unfortunate, but being on
top of things all the time, particularly when you're the only blind
person around, is really frustrating, but extremely mandatory if we
want to hold on to whatever mainstream space we manage to occupy. But
some of that knowhow will only come from experience being among your
colleagues and identifying their buttons!
Just try not to take things very personally for your own sanity, and
start afresh each day! U want to stick like glue to that space, till
you leave it of your own choosing. Pat yourself on the back for
accomplishing things thus far, and face the storm with a firm footing!
smile.
Best wishes!

Shireen.


On 1/5/18, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I hope this message finds you well. At my workplace, which is a law
> firm, I recently confronted a situation which I think I could have
> dealt with in a more graceful way.
>
> One of my superiors, who is not the nicest person to put it mildly,
> displayed blatant ableism and unacceptable conduct. We had to get a
> hard copy document notarized for filing purposes. Now, when I asked
> the office boy to request this superior to come to my desk and help me
> in picking out the documents that had to be notarized, as the
> documents were at my desk, he called me and said, his voice dripping
> with condescension, "Tell me, sir, what can I do for you?"
>
> Now, I am generally known to have a calm temperament and strive to be
> unfailingly polite to everyone. However, his response really rubbed me
> the wrong way, to put it mildly. Later, when he came to talk to me and
> sensed by my facial reaction that I was not happy with him, he asked
> me what the issue was. I told him, admittedly in a very combative and
> aggressive way, that his behavior was unacceptable. What he was doing
> for me was only a reasonable accommodation which he was mandated to
> provide. He was not doing me a favour, and it was wrong for him to
> think that I was ordering him to do something for him. I said this in
> a way angry and hurt way, as I don't think it is acceptable for anyone
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[AI] One-day seminar on 'Disability and modernity' at Khalsa college Delhi.

[Shireen Irani]

Forwarding this on behalf of Prof. Inderjeet Singh: SGND Khalsa College Delhi.


dear colleagues,

SGND Khalsa College is going to organize a full day seminar on
Disability and Modernity

Memories and Visions

on 25th January, 2018.

Details as under:

A.K. Mittal: chief guest

the president of the world blind union.

keynote address: Santosh Kumar Romta

the general secretary of the National Federation of thee Blind.

following are the sub-themes:



session 1 Politics and the disability

speakers: Jagdish Chander, associate professor at Hindu College,

Indrajeet Singh, assistant professor at SGND Khalsa college,

Ramesh Kumar Sarin, disability activist.

session 2. gender discrimination:

speakers: Anita Ghai, professor at Ambedkar University,

Anil Aneja, professor at Delhi University,

Gunjan Kumari, assistant professor at Shivaji College.



lunch: 1.30 pm.



session 3. sports

speakers: George Abraham, the director of Eyeway,

Inder Singh, vice president NFB and former cricket world cup player.

session 4. sociology of disability:

speakers: Alamelu, assistant professor at I.P. College,

Sameer Chaturvedi, research scholar at J.N.U.,

 Yogesh Kumar Yadav, Assistant Professor at Aligarh Muslim University.



thank you

Indrajeet Singh [convener of the seminar], department of political
science, SGND  Khalsa College, Delhi University.

Mail: indrajee...@gmail.com

phone: 9871871536



time: ten am

venue: seminar room, SGND Khalsa college, Delhi University.

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Re: [AI] —At convocation, Delhi University floats plan for disability studies

[Shireen Irani]

This is great.

If it does materialise it'll be a huge positive step.
Best wishes to all those involved in pushing it through the door.

Shireen.

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Re: [AI] Accessibility of statistical software with screen-reader

[Shireen Irani]

Hi,

I believe  R is accessible with jaws.
but I won't be able to give u any more information. perhaps others on
the list can help further.
you could check out this site in the mean time:

https://channel9.msdn.com/events/useR-international-R-User-conferences/useR-International-R-User-2017-Conference/Interactive-graphs-for-blind-and-print-disabled-people?utm_content=bufferfe267&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer



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> Dear list members,
> As the subject line says, I would like to know whether statistical
> softwares such as SPSS, STATA and E-VIEWS are accessible with
> screen-readers. These softwares are primarily used in quantitative
> research involving big data. I would request those list members who
> are experts in accessible softwares working in the IT field to shed
> light on this issue.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Best regards
> --
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Re: [AI] Request to music lovers

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

the Roland E09 is a good model with Indian sounds and rhythms, which
you can get for around 30 thousand. There is also the Yamaha I series:
namely the I-455 or the I-425, that are made exclusively with Indian
instruments and rhythms in mind.
do visit a music store if possible and check them out before you
choose anything. only listening to the sounds and seeing what suits
your needs will help you decide best.
all of these are fully accessible.
do let me know if you're looking for more high-end, professional keyboards.

Shireen.

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> friends I wana buy a keyboard  with indian tones and styles can you
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Re: [AI] Planet Abled Accessible Triund Trek, 30th September to 2nd October, 2017

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

may I please know why the travel expenditure is not disclosed unless
one registers?

I'm really interested in knowing, before I disclose my personal
information. I'd be very grateful if the basic amount is disclosed.
I'm at least the 3rd person who has asked for this information on this
thread. I think its only fair.
requesting for your kind cooperation,
thank you.
Shireen.

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>
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>> please send expenditure details.
>>
>> On 9/4/17, sanjeev kumar  wrote:
>> > please send the complete expenditure details only than I can decide
>> > whether the tour is in my budget or not.
>> > with regard
>> >
>> > sanjeev kumar
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/4/17, Planet Abled  wrote:
>> >> Hello friends,
>> >>
>> >> Trust you are doing well.
>> >>
>> >> Post the thunderstorms and monsoons, Planet Abled's Accessible Triund
>> >> Trek
>> >> is back.
>> >>
>> >> Located at the foot of the mighty Dhauladhar range, Triund is one of
>> >> the
>> >> most stunning treks in Himachal Pradesh.
>> >>
>> >> After a few steep ascents through the forest, you reach the lush
>> >> meadows
>> >> at
>> >> the top with an enthralling view and cool breeze of snow capped
>> >> mountains.
>> >> The amazing panoramic experience from the top at different times-
>> sunrise
>> >> in the morning, dusk and night spent under millions of stars at the
>> >> campsite - highlights the unique charming beauty of Triund.
>> >>
>> >> This special inclusive Triund trek is custom planned to meet all your
>> >> trekking expectations and made very comfortable for first time
>> >> trekkers.
>> >>
>> >> This trip is for everyone - people with and without disabilities can
>> join
>> >> in alone or with their friends/family.
>> >> Unfortunately at present this trip is not open for wheelchair users.
>> >> People
>> >> with other mobility issues and those using
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>> >> Travel Buddies and Sign Language Interpreters would also be present
>> >> during
>> >> the entire duration of the trip.
>> >>
>> >> The trip is scheduled to begin on the morning of 30th September 2017.
>> >> Where
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>> >>
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>> FlIR203p_-U&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&
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Re: [AI] Upasana Makati: Hrithik launches Braille-Tactile children's book

[Shireen Irani]

ok. thanx. yes it does happen that a lot of such ventures do not reach
the markets sadly.

but i'll try asking on the given contact.

thanks again, Neha.

Shireen.

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> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Shireen Irani 
> wrote:
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>> does any 1 have more information on these books? how they turned out,
>> where they're avilable etc? are they out in the market?
>>
>> please share any info on this if any1 has it.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/26/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
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Re: [AI] Upasana Makati: Hrithik launches Braille-Tactile children's book

[Shireen Irani]

does any 1 have more information on these books? how they turned out,
where they're avilable etc? are they out in the market?

please share any info on this if any1 has it.

thanks,



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Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

thanx.

will try it out and get in touch if anything.


On 3/16/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi Shireen,
>
> Following link might help you to get started.
>
> https://support.google.com/drive/answer/6034939?hl=en
>
> The page contains a detailed information on using drive with screen
> readers along with keyboard shortcuts. Do give me a call if you face
> any issue, would be happy to help.
>
> HTH,
> Ajay
>
> On 3/15/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> hi,
>> so how does one start?
>> do u have any text file with the google drive commands that u can share?
>> i've found it not completely accessible with jaws.
>>
>> On 3/15/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Try using google drive, It needs a bit of effort to learn it but I
>>> feel it is worth the time spent. I find the interface completely
>>> accessible and better integrated with the mobile devices. Would be
>>> happy to help if anyone wants to explore.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ajay
>>>
>>> On 3/14/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>>> ok thank u all for your kind help and suggestions. i guess i'll write
>>>> to the dropbox team and see if they can help.
>>>>
>>>> many thanks again, all of you.
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/14/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>>>> hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> that particular folder is 290 mb. and i have 3 more files in my
>>>>> dropbox that are much smaller in size. as far as i know, space is not
>>>>> the issue. because i haven't had any warning from them about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanx.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/14/17, Sachit Kumar Sahrawat  wrote:
>>>>>> What is the size of the folder or the entire quota you have used?
>>>>>> Please
>>>>>> check! You have limitted quota for db account. This may be one of the
>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2017, 8:10 PM, at 8:10 PM, Shireen Irani
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>this is a compressed win-rar folder. from what i know this works the
>>>>>>>same way you've mentioned. by right-clicking on it and generating a
>>>>>>>download link. it did work for me before. just don't know what's wrong
>>>>>>>since the past couple of days. anyway i'm trying to re-install to see
>>>>>>>if the problem disappears.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 3/14/17, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> PL] I use ninite to keep things like dropbox updated. The latest
>>>>>>>version is
>>>>>>>> 21.4.25.
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [AI] Invitation for Secret Talks by MYOLO in association with BillionAbles

[Shireen Irani]

this sounds interesting.

Delhi-ites, do share your experiences if u attend. do try to attend.

On 3/16/17, Sameer Garg  wrote:
> Dear Friends
>
> Greetings.
>
> The world is full of people who judge on the basis of looks and the way we
> dress.
> Imagine if everyone was blind? Imagine if people start loving with their
> heart instead of their eyes. Does the world look prettier?
>
> If your answer is yes, join us in the 'Secret Talk' on 18th March at Lodhi
> Garden from 3 pm -6 pm where Billion Ables partners with MYOLO
>  to bring to you a unique experience
> of the world which is not only pretty but full of people with their
> thoughts and different experiences.
>
> What's more, its at a discounted price of Rs. 99 instead of the original
> price of Rs. 299 specially for our community members. And yes, the snacks
> are on us.
>
> Kindly fill in the details to get the coupon code or revert back
> https://goo.gl/gewhSz
> 
>
> *Details of the event*
>
> Conversations with strangers, *with blindfolds on*. Meaningful, fun talks;
> no judgement.
>
> We may have over 1,000 friends but then there are days when no one really
> understands.
> And as we all respond to that irony in our own ways, it shouldn’t be so
> difficult to speak our hearts and minds, and that’s what Secret Talks is
> about.
>
> It’s about having lively conversations without judgements and prejudices.
> It’s about paying attention on words and not physical appearances. So,
> let’s talk to strangers with blindfolds on.
>
> *Facebook link*: https://www.facebook.com/events/388110564898319/
>
> *Bookings:* https://www.instamojo.com/myolo/secret-talks-30/
>
> Do contact me at 8800510866 for any queries. I  will be more than happy to
> assist you.
>
> *Regards*
>
> Sameer Garg
>
> Founder & CEO
>
> 8800510866
>
>
>
> *www.billionables.com *
>
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> *
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Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

hi,
so how does one start?
do u have any text file with the google drive commands that u can share?
i've found it not completely accessible with jaws.

On 3/15/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Try using google drive, It needs a bit of effort to learn it but I
> feel it is worth the time spent. I find the interface completely
> accessible and better integrated with the mobile devices. Would be
> happy to help if anyone wants to explore.
>
> Regards,
> Ajay
>
> On 3/14/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> ok thank u all for your kind help and suggestions. i guess i'll write
>> to the dropbox team and see if they can help.
>>
>> many thanks again, all of you.
>>
>> S.
>>
>> On 3/14/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> that particular folder is 290 mb. and i have 3 more files in my
>>> dropbox that are much smaller in size. as far as i know, space is not
>>> the issue. because i haven't had any warning from them about it.
>>>
>>> thanx.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/14/17, Sachit Kumar Sahrawat  wrote:
>>>> What is the size of the folder or the entire quota you have used? Please
>>>> check! You have limitted quota for db account. This may be one of the
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>> ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 14, 2017, 8:10 PM, at 8:10 PM, Shireen Irani
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>this is a compressed win-rar folder. from what i know this works the
>>>>>same way you've mentioned. by right-clicking on it and generating a
>>>>>download link. it did work for me before. just don't know what's wrong
>>>>>since the past couple of days. anyway i'm trying to re-install to see
>>>>>if the problem disappears.
>>>>>
>>>>>S.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/14/17, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> PL] I use ninite to keep things like dropbox updated. The latest
>>>>>version is
>>>>>> 21.4.25.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To generate the link you right click the file and not the folder. If
>>>>>you
>>>>>> need to
>>>>>> share the folder, there is a different way to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pranav
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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[AI] not so accessible after all. taken from The Hindu.

[Shireen Irani]

The government’s own documents are not accessible to persons with disabilities

Irony: a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary
to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.

Now that we have the definition of irony established, let me explain
how that connects with the disability rights movement.

But first, a little context. A landmark year for the movement was
2015-16. A fight that was decades in the making went from a murmur to
a resounding roar
that echoed through the chambers of Parliament. And that roar led to
the passing of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill, 2016.
From only seven
recognised disabilities in the previous archaic Act of 1995 to 21
disabilities now, the new law is a true game changer that provides
provisions that will
benefit many. This isn’t just a piece of legislation that is the
politically correct thing to say. It is the real deal which takes into
account real issues
like accessibility to infrastructure, technology and information.

We also saw the launch of the Accessible India Campaign (Sugamya
Bharat Abhiyan) by the Department of Empowerment of Persons with
Disabilities (DEPwD)
in 2015, and it was welcomed for its spirit and intention. The
campaign has a heavy focus on not just accessibility to physical
infrastructure, but also
on Information and Communication Technologies — which is the elephant
in the room we need to address.

As per the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016: “The
appropriate Government shall take steps to ensure that all their
public documents are in
accessible formats.” The Accessible India Campaign itself has a
separate objective and its own targets on enhancing the proportion of
accessible and usable
public documents. From all the other provisions laid out in the law
and the campaign, this needs a special mention since more often than
not, people with
disabilities miss out on information to do with their own lives
because of lack of accessibility.

Attitudinal barriers

And there’s the connect. The irony. Recently, the DEPwD drafted the
rules of the new law which have now been made available to the public
for comments.
The 74-page-long comprehensive document will be scrutinised by many,
but not by those whose lives these rules directly impact. It’s ironic
that the rules,
a public document on the department’s website, are not published in an
accessible format to those whose roar made this happen.

I have put out opinion pieces, both in long form and those of the
140-character variety. And I have been a part of the Accessible India
Campaign and the
department. I chose to play that role to understand the dynamic of the
government instead of simply pointing fingers and playing the blame
game.

And what did I learn? Attitudinal barriers are here to stay.
Formulating an ambitious campaign is a wonderful idea, but what about
the barriers within
the walls of the system? Change cannot come about if it does not first
begin at home. And publishing the rules of the Accessible India
Campaign without
making them accessible is just ironic in a tragic way.

Parul Ghosh is a disability rights professional


source:

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/not-so-accessible-after-all/article17462709.ece


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Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

ok thank u all for your kind help and suggestions. i guess i'll write
to the dropbox team and see if they can help.

many thanks again, all of you.

S.

On 3/14/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
> hi,
>
> that particular folder is 290 mb. and i have 3 more files in my
> dropbox that are much smaller in size. as far as i know, space is not
> the issue. because i haven't had any warning from them about it.
>
> thanx.
>
>
> On 3/14/17, Sachit Kumar Sahrawat  wrote:
>> What is the size of the folder or the entire quota you have used? Please
>> check! You have limitted quota for db account. This may be one of the
>> reason.
>>
>> ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​
>>
>> On Mar 14, 2017, 8:10 PM, at 8:10 PM, Shireen Irani
>> 
>> wrote:
>>>hi,
>>>
>>>this is a compressed win-rar folder. from what i know this works the
>>>same way you've mentioned. by right-clicking on it and generating a
>>>download link. it did work for me before. just don't know what's wrong
>>>since the past couple of days. anyway i'm trying to re-install to see
>>>if the problem disappears.
>>>
>>>S.
>>>
>>>On 3/14/17, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>>>> >>> PL] I use ninite to keep things like dropbox updated. The latest
>>>version is
>>>> 21.4.25.
>>>>
>>>> To generate the link you right click the file and not the folder. If
>>>you
>>>> need to
>>>> share the folder, there is a different way to do it.
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

hi Dr. Kumar.

i did check that, and i do have the latest version: 21.4.25.

i also reinstalled it. but with no luck.

thanks.

Shireen.
On 3/14/17, Dr. B. S. M. Kumar  wrote:
> Hi Shirin,
> I too faced similar problem almost three months back. I just opened the
> dropbox on the web and updated the version and the problem got resolved.
> Hence, you may also try to update your drop box to the latest version and
> hopefully your problem may get resolved.
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
> Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Shireen Irani
> Sent: 14 March 2017 20:10
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.
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> hi,
>
> this is a compressed win-rar folder. from what i know this works the
> same way you've mentioned. by right-clicking on it and generating a
> download link. it did work for me before. just don't know what's wrong
> since the past couple of days. anyway i'm trying to re-install to see
> if the problem disappears.
>
> S.
>
> On 3/14/17, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>> > PL] I use ninite to keep things like dropbox updated. The latest version
> is
>> 21.4.25.
>>
>> To generate the link you right click the file and not the folder. If you
>> need to
>> share the folder, there is a different way to do it.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
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Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

that particular folder is 290 mb. and i have 3 more files in my
dropbox that are much smaller in size. as far as i know, space is not
the issue. because i haven't had any warning from them about it.

thanx.


On 3/14/17, Sachit Kumar Sahrawat  wrote:
> What is the size of the folder or the entire quota you have used? Please
> check! You have limitted quota for db account. This may be one of the
> reason.
>
> ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​
>
> On Mar 14, 2017, 8:10 PM, at 8:10 PM, Shireen Irani 
> wrote:
>>hi,
>>
>>this is a compressed win-rar folder. from what i know this works the
>>same way you've mentioned. by right-clicking on it and generating a
>>download link. it did work for me before. just don't know what's wrong
>>since the past couple of days. anyway i'm trying to re-install to see
>>if the problem disappears.
>>
>>S.
>>
>>On 3/14/17, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>>> >> PL] I use ninite to keep things like dropbox updated. The latest
>>version is
>>> 21.4.25.
>>>
>>> To generate the link you right click the file and not the folder. If
>>you
>>> need to
>>> share the folder, there is a different way to do it.
>>>
>>> Pranav
>>>
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Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

so i did reinstall it, and the version is correct. 21.4.25. but still
no luck with the link.
Pranav would you please tell me how to generate a link for a
compressed folder? ifthe method is different? i guess i wrongly
assumed that a compressed folder gets treated as a file.
i repeat, i don't wish to share the folder with any1, i want to
generate a download link which i can share with specific people.
apologies for my ignorance, but any help will be hugely appreciated, i
need to use this feature urgently.

thanks.

On 3/14/17, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>  PL] I use ninite to keep things like dropbox updated. The latest version is
> 21.4.25.
>
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Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

this is a compressed win-rar folder. from what i know this works the
same way you've mentioned. by right-clicking on it and generating a
download link. it did work for me before. just don't know what's wrong
since the past couple of days. anyway i'm trying to re-install to see
if the problem disappears.

S.

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[AI] The dilemma when a pregnant woman seeks to abort a foetus with a detected disability

[Shireen Irani]

by Amba Salelkar


On February 28, 2017, a division bench of the Supreme Court denied a
woman permission to terminate a 26-week pregnancy after medical tests
revealed that
the foetus would be born with Down syndrome. This decision comes as
one of several reported recently where late-term abortions have sought
the nod of the
judiciary.

The Medical Termination of Pregnancy Act is often said to be one of
the more progressive statutes relating to women’s reproductive rights,
globally. While
the law allows medical terminations of any pregnancy up to 12 weeks,
beyond this and up to 20 weeks, terminations are allowed for two
reasons: a risk to
the life of the pregnant woman or of grave injury physical or mental
health, or there being a substantial risk that if the child were born,
it would suffer
from such physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped.

The Act does not allow for a registered medical practitioner to
terminate a pregnancy beyond 20 weeks gestational age unless there is
a risk to the life
of the mother, and so the courts are approached for permission for
such procedures to take place. The Supreme Court, in this case,
appears to have relied
on the fact that delivering a child with Down syndrome does not pose
any more risk to the mother than delivering a child without Down
syndrome. What seems
to have attracted attention was that while delivering the judgement,
Justice SA Bobde
reportedly
 observed that “everybody knows that children with Down Syndrome are
undoubtedly less intelligent, but they are fine people… we don’t think
we are going
to allow the termination of pregnancy. We have a life in our hands.”

Justice Bobde, perhaps unwittingly, echoed the viewpoints of
disability rights organisations around the world, particularly those
representing persons
with Down syndrome and conditions like spina bifida, which are now
detectable well within the “safe” period for termination of
pregnancies. They have voiced
concerns that the vast improvements in imaging and testing are leading
to their elimination from the diversity of humankind.

Screening out the disabled

In the United Kingdom, current imaging has resulted in a 90%
termination rate of foetuses testing positive for Down syndrome.
Efforts to step up such testing
recently brought persons with Down Syndrome and their families onto
the streets to protest against the government “
screening them out
”. Autistic persons have spoken out against global NGOs like Autism
Speaks for raising for funding
research
 focused on identifying genetic markers for autism, presumably so that
autism can be prevented by way of prenatal testing as well.

Disability rights activists are clear that measures that prevent
impairments, for example, promotion of folic acid supplements to
expectant persons, vaccines,
nutritional supplementation etc. are not problematic. However,
elimination of persons who have these impairments most certainly falls
foul of the human
rights entitled to persons with disabilities.

The Committee on the Rights of the Child, in 1997, while discussing
the rights of children with disabilities
stated:

block quote
“It was of course vitally important to work towards the creation of a
safer world for children in which the risks of impairment and harm
were minimised,
but the solution was not through the denial of life itself as a
preventive strategy. Rather, we must celebrate diversity and learn to
celebrate the birth
of every child, with or without disability.”
block quote end

Disability rights activists, particularly in the United States, are
mindful of the potential their cause has to curbing women’s
reproductive rights, particularly
in the present political scenario. This discomfort is reflected in the
Convention of the Rights of People with Disabilities itself.
Pages/ConventionRightsPersonsWithDisabilities
 The discussions behind drafting of
Article 10
 on the Right to Life reveal that though many interest
groups
 and states advocated for the specific bar on terminations of
pregnancies on the grounds of disability, the text that received
consensus was silent on
the same. As seen from the concluding observations of the convention’s
committee relating to the implementation of the Convention in Spain,
termination
of pregnancies on the grounds of disability when there was a general
right to terminate a pregnancy was not per se violative of the
Convention, but States
that allowed for terminations only on the grounds of disability were
violating the convention as the protection offered to the foetus was
then not “on
an equal basis with others”.

Informed choices about abortion

In India, where prenatal determination of sex and consequent
termination of a pregnancy based on sex is prohibited, the door seems
already ajar to argue
that pregnant people have the right to terminate any pregnancy, but
not a particular pregnancy on the grounds of the sex of the foetus.
Interestingly,
the National Commission for Women in India has
opined
 that th

Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

i have installed the desktop client, and done all the pasting the
folder inside etc. right-clicking does not give me the copy link to
clipboard option. this is not just happening with a recently uploaded
folder, but for everything i have uploaded so far. even stuff uploaded
last year.
Pranav, how do i know if the desktop client is updated?

p.s. i am not talking about sharing a public folder. i want to
generate a download link for an already uploaded file, which i can
email to specific people.

thanks.

Shireen.
On 3/14/17, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
> Perhaps Copy Public Link is not available to new users. Anyway, don't
> regret, facility of public folders will no longer be available after
> tomorrow.
>
> With best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
> Cell: 9433464329
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Do you have the desktop client installed? If so, ensure it is updated and
>>
>> take
>> the following steps.
>> 1. Highlight the file in question. Ensure the file is in the designated
>> dropbox
>> folder.
>> 2. Right click the name of the file and arrow to the "copy link" option.
>> 3. Hit enter on that.
>>
>> A link to the file will be placed on your clipboard.
>>
>> What is the problem? Are you not getting the option to create the link? If
>>
>> so,
>> ensure that the dropbox client is running.
>>
>> Pranav
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[AI] requesting for help with a problem with dropbox.

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

i am unable to create a download link for a file uploaded on dropbox.
using the application key does not give me the option of generating a
download link. i'd be grateful for any prompt suggestions on how to go
about resolving this, as this is a bit urgent.
i'm using jaws 16 with windows 7.

thanks,

Shireen.


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Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

[Shireen Irani]

well i did make clear, right in the beginning, that these pointers
were in no way a counter to what Payal went through. my mail was a
response to Avinash's invitation to initiate a much needed discussion
on the issue. only when u start the discussion with the most basic
ideas do people have the motivation to pipe in and take it forward.
until then, such issues seem to affect no1 till they face the music
themselves. just as is happening now.


On 3/2/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Completely agree, This is one of its kind situation where none of your
> theories of being assertive comes to your rescue.
>
> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>> and, Manish, the site is definitely inaccessible to leave a comment at.
>> i tried responding to a comment left there but the reply link does not
>> bring up an edit box or a prompt to sign in or anything of the ssort.
>>
>> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>>> all your points make sense Shireen, when in a situation you've
>>> mentioned. this specific incident mentioned here was not conducive to
>>> most of what you've suggested. yes, in other situations they could
>>> definitely be adopted, but when in the situation  i've mentioned, not
>>> many have the time or inclination to see much beyond themselves. or
>>> maybe i was dealing with a particularly reticent group.
>>> the dynamic changes when in a group. why, i am still to understand.
>>> the getting up from the seat is something a lot of us do i think. my
>>> main concern here is the absence of initiative to even try.
>>> i get the absence of eye contact bit being a problem, but there are
>>> definitely other ways to combat that i'm sure.
>>>
>>> On 2/28/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>>> since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
>>>> a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
>>>> Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
>>>> counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
>>>> of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
>>>> which u all may already be aware of.
>>>> 1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
>>>> social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
>>>> members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
>>>> during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
>>>> ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
>>>> spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
>>>> often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
>>>> option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
>>>> 2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
>>>> part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
>>>> in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
>>>> of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
>>>> enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
>>>> a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
>>>> possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
>>>> feasible.
>>>> 3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
>>>> by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
>>>> something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
>>>> respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
>>>> dessert yet?
>>>> 4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
>>>> then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
>>>> hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
>>>> this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
>>>> chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
>>>> end of that particular conversation.
>>>> of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
>>>> to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
>>>> of the group.
>>>> 6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
>>>> for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
>>>> up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
>>&

Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

[Shireen Irani]

since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
which u all may already be aware of.
1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
feasible.
3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
dessert yet?
4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
end of that particular conversation.
of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
of the group.
6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.

7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ interact
with the likes of us. in such cases, and from all the above points,
the main thing to take home is that for better for worse, we are the
ones who need to give them that slight nudge/ push, to engage/
interact  with us. sadly, people haven't reached that level of
sensibility yet, for them to not feel awkward around us. i in fact was
reading about this just this morning. don't remember where. that
children usually never find it difficult to come forward and initiate
an interaction with us. it is the adults. who start building these
walls as they become less sure of their own selves. and thereby, less
sure of the "others". in quotation marks. so as long as we're the
first to extend a hand, we can hope that we've done our bit and that
the ball is no longer in our court.

Shireen.

On 2/28/17, avinash shahi  wrote:
> While recounting her own experience from a professional gathering, She
> flags off a burning issue; why people remain indifferent towards blind
> people.
> This could set a tone for further deliberation. She felt alone when
> nobody turned up to offer her assistance to have a dignified meal. She
> felt unpleasant cause people talked at her not to her.  What are the
> solutions we could offer in similar situations to us and our fellow
> beings? we also go to attend marriages, parties, and clubs. Many
> amongst  us probably skip such gatherings due to ensuing indignities
> awaiting them. This post provokes me to ponder  upon what could be
> prospective solutions: Is accompanying sighted to such gathering if
> not invited morally justified? or demanding right to have meal in
> dignified manner from the organisers is a way out? or in a conference
> or in a seminar; just striking a conversation with a stranger solely
> to get food is a smart strategy. I expect the Access Indians will take
> the conversation further. The URL is pasted below.
> http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/
>
>
>
> On 2/28/17, Niharika Pandit  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Greetings from Point of View!
>>
>> Today on the SexDis blog, we have published an essay 'I'm blind, not
>> invisible' by Payal Kapoor.
>> http://blog.sexualityanddisability.org/2017/02/im-blind-not-invisible/
>>
>> 'It is gr

[AI] sharing from another list: blind woman breaks off marriage when asked to quit her music career.

[Shireen Irani]

apologies if this is a cross-posting, but i don't think this was
shared on this list.
this is a bold move, and i hope that parents of disabled children
learn a thing or 2 from it. there are so many cases where the families
just want to get their children married, that the first person who
comes along is accepted with gratitude without any time for
background, or compatibility check.
i hope that more women, in particular, are able to put their foot down
and refuse the men forced upon them, if they find him unworthy.
more power to us!


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Re: [AI] the finance of disability: a blog post by Payal Kapoor.

[Shireen Irani]

for those of u who liked her stile, here's Payal's blog homepage where
you can get to read and subscribe to all her posts.
do read, comment, and share.

www.payalkijhankar.wordpress.com/


On 2/23/17, Himanshu Sahu  wrote:
> Very touchy but a cruel reality.
>
>
> On 2/23/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> Really real.
>> Way of saying it too  nicely nice.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Shireen Irani
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:05 PM
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: [AI] the finance of disability: a blog post by Payal Kapoor.
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> this is something that a lot of us here will relate to. and Payal has
>> articulated it wonderfully. do go through it and share your thoughts.
>>
>> the finance of disability
>>
>> here are instances in life that teach, reinforce, and remind you; time
>> and again; of what is different about you when compared to many others
>> out in the
>> world. Not all of it is palatable or even halfway nice; but that pinch
>> of salt is always a reminder.
>>
>> Yes, I know this once again is a story, a personal narrative that
>> comes with its disclaimers… not a whine, rant, not even seeking
>> sympathy or a commiserating
>> pat on the back, but just that; a narrative!
>>
>> Today, an almost reality was nipped in the bud. A rejection notice
>> from a visa office said I could not travel overseas on a trip a bunch
>> of us had been
>> planning for almost over a year now. Rejections are always difficult
>> to come to terms with. School or college admissions; a relationship
>> going sour; even
>> being turned away by that auto driver when you so desperately want to
>> get to work. It stings! It reminds you of how, while you think you are
>> rather indispensable
>> in your head, the ones out there vociferously think otherwise!
>>
>> Suddenly a whirlwind of emotional and intellectual activity is set in
>> motion in the head. A droning monologue that won’t abate or quite
>> down. All the distance
>> traversed for years convincing yourself of how relevant your life is,
>> takes that shuddering step back! I know this sounds like major drama,
>> while it is
>> not, it is too.
>>
>> There have always been varying opinions about what drives your life:
>> Karma and the universe; what is meant to be? Or your own sell in the
>> driver’s seat
>> charting your life’s course.
>>
>> While I believe in the meant to be, there are instances that made me
>> wonder if I didn’t do enough to do better? Was making all that effort
>> and leaving
>> the rest to be what is meant to be the right decision?
>>
>> I look back on my life that was- both before and after acquiring my
>> disability. An audit of sorts and find there is an imbalance in my
>> statement of accounts
>> here. While the recovery from the denial phase of my disability I
>> place in the relearning column of life, the rest spent in trying to
>> make a go of it sees
>> some unhappy instances.
>>
>> Being an educated, able and skilled individual with a disability, I
>> see myself in a strange place. The industry and trade that I am
>> trained and educated
>> in has little for me by way of gainful opportunity. Having tried high,
>> low and under to find a place there, I still find myself on the
>> outside looking
>> in. what happens then? A quest for the new entity that is you starts…
>> where does one begin though? A soft reset, looking around for using
>> the other skills
>> learned in the course of living with a disability begins. Not easy
>> since you are certain you knew it all and then, suddenly you don’t!
>>
>> Opportunity slowly peeks out hesitantly out of a dark corner and you
>> are relieved to find yourself back in the game again. However small
>> that chance, it
>> is great to be on your way. But then, when that plateau stage sets in,
>> you find yourself uneasy again. No peaks and troughs, no push towards
>> climbing that
>> organizational ladder…nothing! You continue giving thanks for having
>> at least had the chance to bring in that little bit of money which
>> qualifies you as
>> an earning member of society.
>>
>> Soon enough, you don’t want to be stuck in the gratitude space only.
>> You want to grow, match the pace of at least those individuals like
>> yourself who are
>> out there doing things for themselves. Strangely, that opportunity
>> w

[AI] the finance of disability: a blog post by Payal Kapoor.

[Shireen Irani]

hi all,

this is something that a lot of us here will relate to. and Payal has
articulated it wonderfully. do go through it and share your thoughts.

the finance of disability

here are instances in life that teach, reinforce, and remind you; time
and again; of what is different about you when compared to many others
out in the
world. Not all of it is palatable or even halfway nice; but that pinch
of salt is always a reminder.

Yes, I know this once again is a story, a personal narrative that
comes with its disclaimers… not a whine, rant, not even seeking
sympathy or a commiserating
pat on the back, but just that; a narrative!

Today, an almost reality was nipped in the bud. A rejection notice
from a visa office said I could not travel overseas on a trip a bunch
of us had been
planning for almost over a year now. Rejections are always difficult
to come to terms with. School or college admissions; a relationship
going sour; even
being turned away by that auto driver when you so desperately want to
get to work. It stings! It reminds you of how, while you think you are
rather indispensable
in your head, the ones out there vociferously think otherwise!

Suddenly a whirlwind of emotional and intellectual activity is set in
motion in the head. A droning monologue that won’t abate or quite
down. All the distance
traversed for years convincing yourself of how relevant your life is,
takes that shuddering step back! I know this sounds like major drama,
while it is
not, it is too.

There have always been varying opinions about what drives your life:
Karma and the universe; what is meant to be? Or your own sell in the
driver’s seat
charting your life’s course.

While I believe in the meant to be, there are instances that made me
wonder if I didn’t do enough to do better? Was making all that effort
and leaving
the rest to be what is meant to be the right decision?

I look back on my life that was- both before and after acquiring my
disability. An audit of sorts and find there is an imbalance in my
statement of accounts
here. While the recovery from the denial phase of my disability I
place in the relearning column of life, the rest spent in trying to
make a go of it sees
some unhappy instances.

Being an educated, able and skilled individual with a disability, I
see myself in a strange place. The industry and trade that I am
trained and educated
in has little for me by way of gainful opportunity. Having tried high,
low and under to find a place there, I still find myself on the
outside looking
in. what happens then? A quest for the new entity that is you starts…
where does one begin though? A soft reset, looking around for using
the other skills
learned in the course of living with a disability begins. Not easy
since you are certain you knew it all and then, suddenly you don’t!

Opportunity slowly peeks out hesitantly out of a dark corner and you
are relieved to find yourself back in the game again. However small
that chance, it
is great to be on your way. But then, when that plateau stage sets in,
you find yourself uneasy again. No peaks and troughs, no push towards
climbing that
organizational ladder…nothing! You continue giving thanks for having
at least had the chance to bring in that little bit of money which
qualifies you as
an earning member of society.

Soon enough, you don’t want to be stuck in the gratitude space only.
You want to grow, match the pace of at least those individuals like
yourself who are
out there doing things for themselves. Strangely, that opportunity
wagon totally passes you by. Floundering, you start on the journey of
self-discovery
once again wondering what you are worth? What are the skills you can
upgrade to? Which are those hidden talents you might put to use? By
the time you find
any hint of that, there is a mess of roiling activity within you.
Self-doubt creeps in! all that positive energy you’ve prided yourself
embracing and reveling
in, doesn’t seem so divine and glorious anymore. Those accomplishments
you’ve been celebrated for; the brave heart and survivor you’ve been
named; that
source of inspiration you’ve been to people seems like just words!
Never one to discount anybody’s words as trivial, I find myself in
place from where
the road ahead seems too long to walk on.

The reality remains that enough opportunities haven’t presented
themselves that can validate your abilities and skills. This, when
translated to accounting
terms means a far from satisfactory state of financial health. My life
in my own eyes is relevant enough; my accomplishments many. My pride
in who I am
is intact, but that world where your bank balance and monetary wealth
defines what your status in life is, is a scary story to tell. Did I
say I tried
my best? I did! My success in translating those talents into an
addition in the credit side of my statement of accounts still eludes
me. Nothing of that
hunt for chances outside of what I do all the time has yielded
sufficiently to make me feel financially relevant

Re: [AI] From regional to bollywood: Films that show world in a new light

[Shireen Irani]

disability need not be the main theme/ focus of these movies. but  the
points that i mentioned, about the disabled being the nice guy and the
second role having an evil streak etc, are too much of a pattern to
just ignore.
in any case, this was just an observation by a Malayali herself, which
i found interesting and worth sharing. there's no reason for a defense
here. comedy or not, all these films have disabled characters and
their evil counterparts, and this is surely a pattern, worth engaging
with. of course i haven't seen the movies myself, so have nothing more
to say about them.

Shireen.



On 2/21/17, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Will be unbeaten to prove that all these films are comedy entertainers
> and it has nothing to do with disability nor disability related
> issues. As you may be knowing, Malayalam industry has good comedy
> entertainers and such films do not go beyond a certain level hence
> fail to carry any message. In other words, while it does not focus
> disability, it does not degrade the hero who is having a disability.
> On the other hand, Malayalam do have some wonderful productions which
> are recognized for its deservedness. Oppam of Mohan Lal and Su Su Sudi
> Valmeekam of Jayasurya to mention a few.
>
> On 2/21/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> pasting below, the list of 4 movies which my friend was talking about,
>>  but just a small correction: the characters in these movies are not
>> blind, but have other disabilities,  or belong to other marginalised
>> groups, and all these roles are played by the Malayalam actor Dileep.
>> in 1 of the movies he is a hunch-back, with a badly dis-figured face,
>> in another movie he has a cleft lip with speech impediments, etc.
>> there's 1 movie in which he has no disability, but is a cross-dresser.
>> i.e. he likes to ware so-called feminine clothes.
>> the fact still remains, that irrespective of the disability, these are
>> characters that are not conventionally accepted by society, and
>> especially when they are men, upon whom lies the entire onus of being
>> able, macho, real men of society, it'd be interesting to find out the
>> dynamics of the dual roles written for the actor, and the audiences
>> true responses to such dicotomies.
>> i've also heard that when these movies were dubbed in Tamil, a lot of
>> the Tamil stars refused to perform those roles, claiming that playing
>> such roles will affect their popularity among their fans, deeming them
>> as less masculine and able.
>> here are the names of the movies, and i believe all them were box-office
>> hits.
>>
>> Kunjikoonan, 2002 (directed by Sasi Shanker), Chanthupottu, 2005 (
>> directed by Lal Jose), Pachakuthira, 2006 (directed by Kamal), Sound
>> Thoma,2013 (directed by Vyshak).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/20/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>> Hmm.
>>> Interesting.
>>> Usually inactivity is associated with goodness, and presumably blind are
>>> associated with inactivity.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Shireen Irani
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 12:33 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] From regional to bollywood: Films that show world in a
>>> new
>>> light
>>>
>>> while on the subject of regional films, here's something i got to know
>>> the other day which i found very interesting:
>>>
>>> there is a bunch of Malayalam movies, having the following
>>> characteristics:
>>> 1. the male protagonist/ hero, is blind.
>>> 2. the actor playing the blind hero, always has a double role, where
>>> his other role is of a sighted guy.
>>> 3. the sighted guy is always a villain/ bad guy, while the blind
>>> character is always good/ likable, and morally correct.
>>> 4. as a result, the audience is always left hating the sighted guy,
>>> and liking, or  siding with the blind guy, by the end of the movie.
>>>
>>> this seems to have been a pattern in quite a few Malayalam movies, and
>>> it'd be interesting to dig deeper into the audiences mind to find out
>>> how exactly they interpret these situations. what is it that they
>>> really feel for the blind characters. is it mere sympathy/ empathy, or
>>> do such movies leave lasting impressions about blind people being
>>> generally lovely, wel

Re: [AI] From regional to bollywood: Films that show world in a new light

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

pasting below, the list of 4 movies which my friend was talking about,
 but just a small correction: the characters in these movies are not
blind, but have other disabilities,  or belong to other marginalised
groups, and all these roles are played by the Malayalam actor Dileep.
in 1 of the movies he is a hunch-back, with a badly dis-figured face,
in another movie he has a cleft lip with speech impediments, etc.
there's 1 movie in which he has no disability, but is a cross-dresser.
i.e. he likes to ware so-called feminine clothes.
the fact still remains, that irrespective of the disability, these are
characters that are not conventionally accepted by society, and
especially when they are men, upon whom lies the entire onus of being
able, macho, real men of society, it'd be interesting to find out the
dynamics of the dual roles written for the actor, and the audiences
true responses to such dicotomies.
i've also heard that when these movies were dubbed in Tamil, a lot of
the Tamil stars refused to perform those roles, claiming that playing
such roles will affect their popularity among their fans, deeming them
as less masculine and able.
here are the names of the movies, and i believe all them were box-office hits.

Kunjikoonan, 2002 (directed by Sasi Shanker), Chanthupottu, 2005 (
directed by Lal Jose), Pachakuthira, 2006 (directed by Kamal), Sound
Thoma,2013 (directed by Vyshak).






On 2/20/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Hmm.
> Interesting.
> Usually inactivity is associated with goodness, and presumably blind are
> associated with inactivity.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Shireen Irani
> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 12:33 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] From regional to bollywood: Films that show world in a new
> light
>
> while on the subject of regional films, here's something i got to know
> the other day which i found very interesting:
>
> there is a bunch of Malayalam movies, having the following characteristics:
> 1. the male protagonist/ hero, is blind.
> 2. the actor playing the blind hero, always has a double role, where
> his other role is of a sighted guy.
> 3. the sighted guy is always a villain/ bad guy, while the blind
> character is always good/ likable, and morally correct.
> 4. as a result, the audience is always left hating the sighted guy,
> and liking, or  siding with the blind guy, by the end of the movie.
>
> this seems to have been a pattern in quite a few Malayalam movies, and
> it'd be interesting to dig deeper into the audiences mind to find out
> how exactly they interpret these situations. what is it that they
> really feel for the blind characters. is it mere sympathy/ empathy, or
> do such movies leave lasting impressions about blind people being
> generally lovely, well-meaning, nice  people, with no evil streak?
> what is the intention of directors of such movies. to have made so
> many movies with similar themes?
> i believe my friend had written a small paper on this issue, and i'm
> trying to get hold of it.
> i found this whole thing quite fascinating though.
>
> Shireen.
>
> On 2/18/17, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Can any NGO do an audio description in English of all these regional
>> movies discussed in the piece? that's a huge task but worth-doing.
>> Regional cinema has a lot to offer which should be taken seriously.
>> http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/Films-that-show-world-in-a-new-light/article17312903.ece
>>
>>
>>
>> In Mohanlal’s latest release Kanupapa where he plays Jayaram, a
>> visually-impaired character, he is a lift-operator, teaches
>> Kalaripayattu, plays the violin, sings like a dream and has a crack at
>> a Punjabi number too. He hears better than an average human and given
>> all his abilities, the need for any sympathy is eliminated from the
>> picture. So is the case of spirited Rohan Bhatnagar from Kaabil;
>> despite his inability to see, he outsmarts the baddies Amit Shellar
>> and Madhavrao Shellar to seek revenge. In Nagesh Kukunoor ’s Dhanak,
>> ït’s hard not to connect with Chotu, beautifully essayed by the child
>> artiste Krrish Chhabria.
>>
>>
>>
>> Click Here!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> All these films with chirpy commercial elements received warm public
>> responses, a Tamil film Cuckoo that had two visually-challenged
>> protagonists falling in love, went onto win a National Award.
>> (Oppam-the Malayalam version of Kanupapa was a success, while the
>> Telugu version tanked) The positive and vibrant portrayal of these
>

Re: [AI] From regional to bollywood: Films that show world in a new light

[Shireen Irani]

while on the subject of regional films, here's something i got to know
the other day which i found very interesting:

there is a bunch of Malayalam movies, having the following characteristics:
1. the male protagonist/ hero, is blind.
2. the actor playing the blind hero, always has a double role, where
his other role is of a sighted guy.
3. the sighted guy is always a villain/ bad guy, while the blind
character is always good/ likable, and morally correct.
4. as a result, the audience is always left hating the sighted guy,
and liking, or  siding with the blind guy, by the end of the movie.

this seems to have been a pattern in quite a few Malayalam movies, and
it'd be interesting to dig deeper into the audiences mind to find out
how exactly they interpret these situations. what is it that they
really feel for the blind characters. is it mere sympathy/ empathy, or
do such movies leave lasting impressions about blind people being
generally lovely, well-meaning, nice  people, with no evil streak?
what is the intention of directors of such movies. to have made so
many movies with similar themes?
i believe my friend had written a small paper on this issue, and i'm
trying to get hold of it.
i found this whole thing quite fascinating though.

Shireen.

On 2/18/17, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Can any NGO do an audio description in English of all these regional
> movies discussed in the piece? that's a huge task but worth-doing.
> Regional cinema has a lot to offer which should be taken seriously.
> http://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/Films-that-show-world-in-a-new-light/article17312903.ece
>
>
>
> In Mohanlal’s latest release Kanupapa where he plays Jayaram, a
> visually-impaired character, he is a lift-operator, teaches
> Kalaripayattu, plays the violin, sings like a dream and has a crack at
> a Punjabi number too. He hears better than an average human and given
> all his abilities, the need for any sympathy is eliminated from the
> picture. So is the case of spirited Rohan Bhatnagar from Kaabil;
> despite his inability to see, he outsmarts the baddies Amit Shellar
> and Madhavrao Shellar to seek revenge. In Nagesh Kukunoor ’s Dhanak,
> ït’s hard not to connect with Chotu, beautifully essayed by the child
> artiste Krrish Chhabria.
>
>
>
> Click Here!
>
>
>
>
> All these films with chirpy commercial elements received warm public
> responses, a Tamil film Cuckoo that had two visually-challenged
> protagonists falling in love, went onto win a National Award.
> (Oppam-the Malayalam version of Kanupapa was a success, while the
> Telugu version tanked) The positive and vibrant portrayal of these
> characters is a marked departure from the eerie stereotypes that films
> have otherwise reduced them to.
>
> Films are a reflection of the society, adds writer-director Mahesh
> Kathi. “Change comes across when the society turns sensitive about the
> way they treat the differently abled. We don’t call people blind any
> more, they are visually challenged. Most directors who take the middle
> path do well to add nuances. Actors too take it all the more seriously
> now, they are trying their best to live their roles.”
>
> Actor Vikram played a character whos loses his eyesight in Siva
> Thandavam and is reported to be donning the lead role of a visually
> impaired man in a Tamil remake of the Hollywood film Don’t Breathe.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> “A few decades ago, many actors considered such parts a dream,” Mahesh
> feels, adding that with actors like Ravi Teja and Raj Tarun playing
> visually impaired roles in Raja-The Great and Andagadu that the trend
> might return.
>
> Producer-director Tammareddy Bharadwaj has a different take on this
> trend: “ We have always had strong visually-impaired characters even
> in the past, sample NTR’s portrayal in the 1956-starrer Chiranjeevulu,
> for a brief portion in Raktha Sambandham, Laya’s good job in Preminchu
> for a similar role won her a Nandi Award.” .
>
> However these and also Kamal Haasan’s role in Amavasya Chandrudu or
> Sarvadaman Banerjee in Sirivennela, though strong, were overshadowed
> by the melodramatic treatment.
>
> Even for Srinivas Murthy, the executive producer of Kanupapa in
> Telugu, it was the novelty of the theme that convinced him to dub
> regionally. “It was Priyadarshan’s comeback film in Malayalam and I
> was bowled over by the way he approached a subject that was quite
> universal. What convinced me also was the actor’s adeptness in
> essaying the character, similar to what he played in the Telugu-dubbed
> film Yodha.”
>
>
>
>
>
> At a time when staying true to the sensitivities of particular
> community is a widely debated issue, the trend, despite commercial
> liberties, i
>
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
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[AI] how academic jobs screen out disabled people.

[Shireen Irani]

this article talks about the situation in the US, but it is no
different from the 1 we face here in India. the application form at
JNU also demanded that we go through the whole process of acquiring a
new disability certificate in a format prescribed by the MHRD i think,
which required the ophthalmologist to fill out details about whether i
can wiggle my fingers, bend-over, and lift weights: abilities that
make a true Professor/ academician!
:-)


article:

how academic jobs screen out disabled people.

Nearly every academic job listing claims not to discriminate based on
disability. A lot of them still do.

By David M. Perry

Every faculty job advertisement at Holy Cross College at Notre Dame,
Indiana, comes with this statement:

block quote
Physical Demands
block quote end
block quote
Repetitive movement of hands and fingers — typing and/or writing;
occasional standing, walking, stooping, kneeling or crouching;
reaching with hands and
arms; talking and hearing.
block quote end
block quote
Ability to lift and carry up to 20 lbs.
block quote end
block quote
NOTE: The above statements are intended to describe the general nature
and level of work being performed by the person assigned to this job.
They are not
intended to be an exhaustive list of all responsibilities, duties,
skills, and physical demands required of personnel so classified….
Holy Cross College
is an equal opportunity employer. All employment decisions are based
on qualifications and are made without regard to race, color, national
origin, age,
sex, disability, or any other legally protected status.
block quote end

Holy Cross College seems like a nice, co-educational Catholic school
in one of the great college towns in America. There’s no reason to
think the school’s
administrators are particularly ableist or interested in
discriminating against people with disabilities. But Holy Cross—like
dozens of other institutions
of higher education across the country — keeps appending these clauses
to job ads. Imagine if you were deaf or in a wheelchair and wanted to
apply, then
read that “walking, talking and hearing” were required. Would you even
finish the application?

block quote
These job ads send a different message: “Be normal or you can’t have this job!”
block quote end

Despite the note appended to the end, echoing language in accordance
with the Equal Opportunity Employment Commission, this statement is
arguably discriminatory.
The practice, however, is common. If you go to HigherEdJobs.com and search for “
25 pounds
,” you’ll find 654 entries right now that require various degrees of
physical ability, often accompanied by other statements mandating
“normal” modes of
communication. Some of these positions are in jobs like nursing, where
required lifting might be entirely reasonable, albeit still subject to
laws around
reasonable accommodation under the Americans With Disabilities Act.
Others, like all the jobs at Hood College, Maryland,
routinely repeat a boilerplate set of physical demands
 that do not seem remotely relevant to the job—though Hood’s at least
uses the hedge-word “may” and explicitly talks about accommodations.

At least when taken to the extreme, as Holy Cross seems to do, the
practice is problematic. I’ve been writing about and tracking such
clauses in higher
education job ads for a year, and expert after expert — including
legal counsel at the EEOC — agrees. Human resource directors cannot
just pile up physical
demands that are not linked to the core requirements of the job.
Roofers need to climb ladders. Truckers need to drive. Professors need
to teach, an act
that generally requires neither walking, stooping, kneeling, or
carrying—or, for that matter, oral speaking or aural listening.

Don’t Look to the Movies to Learn About Disability The next time you
meet a disabled person, throw the films you’ve watched about them out
the window and
discuss film…psmag.com
dont-look-to-the-movies-to-learn-about-disability-7e6d50db4d25

The key word here is requires, which carries with it a legal meaning
not related to most of these positions, and certainly not most faculty
jobs. To be
clear, Holy Cross is not the problem here, but merely an instance of
requirement creep filling up the legalese of hiring practices. I
initially came across
one of these job ads at a branch public campus in Massachusetts, and
found them permeating both Texas and Arkansas systems. My resulting
exposé, “
Disabled People Need Not Apply
,” did result in some changes in cases where I successfully engaged
individual human resources managers at specific universities,
but structural transformation has been harder to achieve. Moreover,
the problem is not confined to colleges and universities. You can find
similar requirements — especially
the “must carry 20/25 pounds” clause — in job listings across
industries. Social-media managers for non-profits or technical
companies shouldn’t be “required”
to carry heavy weight, yet, for some reason, many of them still are.

Re: [AI] guidance for a portable reding machine

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

sorry i wasn't following this thread earlier, so not sure whether
you're looking for only a scanner, or something portable that will
also do the reading.
if u also want the reading then do check out the Eye Pal Ace reader,
which does both, the scanning and reading, and which u can get to see
at Karishma enterprises in Mumbai. it is very expensive though, around
75 thousand. and there also are a few issues with the after-service,
and the hardware after only a year of usage. but portability-wise, it
is the perfect thing to have. don't remember the exact config, but its
about 1 and a half kgs with i think a 10 inch screen. the lens is very
good for A-4 size pages, and they also now have Sangita, the Indian
accented tts as an option.
if u do consider this, then get in touch with me, i'll give you a few
points of warning about it, so that you are sure of things before you
invest in it.

best,

Shireen.


On 2/16/17, Pranav Lal  wrote:
> Hi Sudeshna,
>
> In terms of reading large documents, your only option is a scanner that
> supports
> the legal or a3 paper size. See models from Plustek. However, this option is
> not
> portable. If you want portable, try to use applications such as the KNFB
> Reader
> on a stand but these as far as I know only do a4 pages. You could try a
> fish-eye
> lens and see if that covers a wider area but a fish-eye lens may distort
> the
> image of the page  so I can't say if this idea will work.
>
> The machines from Lex will also work. They are USB powered and the support
> from
> Sparsh has been good. The Lex scanner I have runs off the USB port of the
> computer. The Lex machines also have options for A3 documents but those
> machines
> are expensive well over a lakh I believe.
> Pranav
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Re: [AI] About Upbringing a visually impaired child by parents

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

whether the child should start his education in a regular school, or a
blind school is itself a subject that will generate a huge debate on
this list. so i won't comment on that, except to say, that it is
extremely crucial for the child to meet and interact with other blind
children/ adults at this age. whether that is done through schooling,
or outside school, entirely depends on the choices and convenience of
the parents and wellwishers.
at the same time, it must also be ensured that the child has a few
sighted peers who are willing to include him in their games etc.
in the meantime, please request the parents to try and make the child,
as independent as possible, with respect to self-grooming, wearing
clothes, tying shoe-laces, eating food, walking alone inside the
house, and even helping the parents with a few basic chores around the
house. it is important not to do everything for him, assuming that he
needs that kind of care. it is really essential for parents to realise
this at the earliest, because these are things which will help build
the child's initial self-image, confidence, etc.
the rest will i think depend on who advises the parents, in their
immediate environment.

Shireen.


On 2/14/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi Shreyas,
>
> Where is the family placed? Think the first step is to connect with a
> good preparatory school for the child. As I always say, Schooling with
> sighted children coupled with dedicated training on computers and
> braille is the most efficient way to go about it. Know Quite a lot of
> people in Delhi who can be really helpful.
>
> HTH,
> Ajay
>
> On 2/14/17, Shreyas Nagaraj reddy  wrote:
>> Hello axis  Indians and the experts… hope everyone is doing good!
>> I am writing this mail to ask you guys, how to go about the situation of
>> up
>> bringing a child if the parents are least aware about the off spring  or
>> son
>> who is visually impaired…
>>
>> One of my acquaintance who I have put in the cc section is a parent/mother
>> precisely…
>> She would need some guidance please…
>>  Please help!
>>
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Re: [AI] Queery related to MS. word.

[Shireen Irani]

oh that's awesome. didn't know about this feature. could u please tell
me if u can also do this with pdf files? or is there a different
command to skim-read a pdf document with adobe reader?

thanx.

Shireen.


On 2/9/17, ANUJ SANDAL  wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> About Skim Reading
> The Skim Reading feature lets you quickly browse through long documents by
> reading the first part of each paragraph. To begin skim reading in a
> document, press CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW. By default, JAWS reads the first
> line of each paragraph, but you can choose to read the first sentence of
> each paragraph instead or set up your own skim reading rules. To change
> your
> skim reading preferences, press CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Giri Prasad
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2017 6:58 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Queery related to MS. word.
>
> Hi mukesh jee,
> I know about this find and replace function. But I haven't heard of skim
> reading. Could you throw some light on what this skim reading is all about?
> If you could share any article on this, it would be better.
> Thanks.
>
> On 09/02/2017, mukesh jain  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> If you are using jaws, then this task can be completely  accomplisht
>> by the following methods:
>> 1. creating rule of the text for finding the words which you want to
>> make it bold through skim reading 2. creating the list of the words to
>> search for all the continuous occurance of specific words in your
>> document.
>>
>> hope that helps.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/17, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>>> In case this has not been answered then use the Replace function.
>>> When it says replace what -you type the way the word is written.
>>> Replace with  should have the bold version of the word.
>>> Then Replace all.
>>> Word will tell you how many replacements it has made.
>>> K
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Giri Prasad
>>> Sent: 08 February 2017 18:35
>>> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>>> phones and Tabs.
>>> Subject: [AI] Queery related to MS. word.
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> I have a word document in which I need to bold a particular word. The
>>> problem is that it is repeated more than hundred times. Its difficult
>>> to find that particular word and bold hundred times. Is there any way
>>> to accomplish this task with one click? If it is possible, kindly let
>>> me know the procedure.
>>> thanks in anticipation.
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[AI] making the right choice: a visually impaired woman helps others like her find writers for exams.

[Shireen Irani]

http://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/other/making-the-write-choice/articleshow/56902634.cms


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[AI] sharing from another list. link for Accessible games for the blind and visually impaired

[Shireen Irani]

here's the link. it has a few games for the sighted and low vision as well.


www.spoonbillsoftware.com.au



I love these games and highly recommend them to everyone.

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[AI] Budget 2017: Where is the Money to Implement the Disabilities Act?

[Shireen Irani]

Despite having passed the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act in
2016, the Budget allocated only about 0.0039% of the GDP for the
differently abled.
The Budget this year has hardly set aside any money for the rights of
persons with disability. The Budget this year has hardly set aside any
money for the rights of persons with disability.
Persons with disabilities and their families had many hopes resting on
the Budget speech. After all, the prime minister himself had made it
quite clear
that he held this sector close to his heart –
rechristening them divyang
 and even spending his birthday
distributing aids and appliances
 to them. The Sugamya Bharat Abhiyaan (Accessible India Campaign),
launched in 2015,
was said to be another highlight of this commitment. And finally,
with the passage
 of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill – which brought the
ruling party and the opposition together ostensibly for the betterment
of the sector
– people with disabilities were led to believe that their lives would
change for the better.

Instead, all that the sector got were some references in opening lines
of the Budget speech regarding the ‘poor and underprivileged’ sections
of society
– “Sabka saath sabka vikas (everyone together, everyone progressing).
Despite the government’s efforts, they still left this significant
population behind.

The only mention this sector finds is in the reference to making of
500 railway stations ‘differently abled friendly by providing lifts
and escalators’.
The
Accessible India Campaign,
however, had already taken up this task. Accessibility is much beyond
merely lifts and escalators – the latter not being helpful for most
persons with
disabilities. Specifically, targets were set to ensure that A1 and A
and B category railway stations are converted into fully accessible
railway stations
by July 2016, and 50% of all railway stations ought to be converted
into fully accessible ones by March 2018.

In fact, the funding for this does not fall within the railway budget
– the Rs 193 crores which
were claimed
 to be ‘exclusively’ for the Accessible India Campaign is budgeted
expenditure for 2016-17 under the existing
Scheme for Implementation of the Persons with Disabilities Act
 (SIPDA), which is available for any entity obliged to make their
infrastructure accessible under the Act. As pointed out in an
analysis
 by the Equals Centre for Promotion of Social Justice, allocating this
fund to the Accessible India Campaign is retrogressive as it limits
the government
efforts towards providing accessibility to infrastructure and services
in a limited number of cities, particularly considering that 69.5% of
the disabled
population reside in rural areas. Also, lest we forget, without
rolling stock that is universally designed, persons with disabilities
aren’t going to go
very far. There is no mention of this, nor is there any report on the
commitment of the previous year’s railway budget promise of ‘
divyang friendly toilets
‘ at railway stations.

The
demand for grants
 by the Department for the Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities
has shown a 9% increase, with most of the expenditure allotted for
institutions old
and new; only 41% of the expenditure will actually go into demand
driven schemes for the welfare of persons with disabilities, even
though the new law
expands the number of impairments included under such schemes from
seven to 19. The Accessible India Campaign and progress therein was
absent from the
Budget speech and the companion documents, while the SIPDA fund gets a
marginal increase of 6.7%. The
Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act 2016
 creates a national fund for persons with disabilities that finds no
mention in the Budget. The statute does not provide for automatic
absorption of the
SIPDA. The first year of this new law, which seeks to implement
India’s obligations under the Convention on the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities, does
not look optimistic.

While the prime minister appreciated the need for personal mobility
and assistive devices – enough to break
Guinness World Records
 while promoting them – the Scheme for Assistance to Disabled Persons
for Purchase/Fitting of Aids and Appliances has actually seen a
decline in allocations,
with a Rs 20 crore decrease from the revised estimates of the previous
year. The Artificial Limbs Manufacturing Corporation of India has seen
no increase
in its allocation of Rs 5 crores over the last three financial years
despite research and development around prosthetics progressing by the
day.

The government has failed to link Budget expenditure to meaningful
implementation of the Bill that it enacted in all earnestness, let
alone international
obligations. Although the estimates on the number of persons with
disabilities in India differ – the WHO estimates
15% of the population
 to be disabled while the Indian census puts the figure
at 2.1% of the population
 – a 0.0039% of specific allocation of the Budget is nothing but 

[AI] a survey on the Cooking habits of Visually Impaired in India

[Shireen Irani]

hi all, please take out a few minutes to participate in this survey.

-- Forwarded message --
From: akhil srivastava 
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:46:57 +0530
Subject: Cooking habits of Visually Impaired in India
Dear Friends!

Greetings from Antardrishti

Antardrishti - Agra based social development committed to the cause of
Blind People. Towards this we had made a humble beginning in 2006. It is
registered as a Public Charitable Trust under Indian Trust Act 1882.

Our motto is "Save your Eyes, if you are able to save your eyes then donate
it, if not then live with dignity" We do nothing but try to make thing
simple.

At present we started online survey on "Cooking habits of Visually Impaired
People in India" with the objective to understand the current scenario of
cooking habits of visually impaired people in India.

We would like to request you to share this survey among your group so we
can get more response.

Looking forward to see your valuable support and feedback.

Link for the survey page is
http://icareinfo.in/visually-impaired/survey-for-cooking-habits-of-visually-impaired-in-india/



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[AI] Disciplining the Disabled Body of the Nation.

[Shireen Irani]

The Union home ministry has issued new
guidelines
 for persons with disabilities to show respect to the national anthem
in cinema halls and public functions by “maintaining the maximum
possible alertness
physically”. The ministry’s earlier guidelines, issued on December 21,
had followed the Supreme Court’s modified December 9 order that
persons with disabilities
are to be exempted from standing up for the national anthem. The new
guidelines from the ministry however come with subtle specifications,
where persons
with disabilities are not exempted from a certain physical (and
pedagogical) demand to perform their patriotic duty. People dealing
with disabilities still
need to be “alert” during the playing of the national anthem and those
with mild intellectual disabilities “can be trained to understand and
respect the
national anthem.”

Disability is being seen as a matter of degree or proportion, in
relation to the ideal healthy body of the nation. Able bodies that can
stand up for the
anthem represent the perfect health of the nation’s body politic. The
‘physically and mentally challenged’ bodies need to close the gap with
able bodies
as much as possible, at least when it concerns patriotic duty.
Nationalism has always been understood as a discourse that requires
training and understanding,
needing both physical and mental indoctrination. From such a
perspective, disabilities are seen as lacking in proper mental and
physical prowess to be
properly nationalist. So they would need special training and methods
to bring them into the fold. Even “respect” for the nation and its
symbols is understood
as a matter of healthy (or perfect) physical and mental ability. The
nation symbolises the utopia of a healthy body politic, where disabled
bodies and
minds are guided to bridge the gap and get closer to the ideal. The
converse logic is, disrespect to the nation is a symptom of
disability, and cannot
be allowed to remain free of guidelines and efforts to bring its
dangerous lack into the respectfully tuned body politic of the nation.

There is an alarming mindset at work here that seeks to bring in
disabled people into the fold of the able, but not through any idea or
content of empowerment.
Rather, disabled people have to follow a new constraint which
regulates their behaviour according to the diktat issued by the
government. The mentality
of the government is such at the moment that the governed is
understood only through its forced participation into a show of
alertness where allegiance
to the nation can be visibly performed. Such an enforced performance
can alone assuage the sentiments of the government. Nationalism is not
seen as a free
sentiment of the governed that s/he can flaunt, temper, disregard or
even hide out of free will, according to how s/he perceives it as a
critical, thinking
adult. In these times, nationalism is the challenge to perform your
patriotic action, display your nationalist sentiments, under the
duress accorded to
schoolchildren.

The politics of pure nationalism

It is being proven that the politics of pure nationalism is a politics
of re-infantilising the governed. The governed, be s/he abled or
disabled, is under
the multiple tutelage of the government. The most extreme form of
governmentality, heightened by hyper-nationalist regimes, aims at
playing the father,
the doctor, the teacher and the priest to its citizens. In case of the
disabled body, the government plays the father who has the right to
claim the disabled
body of the child within the sphere of sentiments, as the doctor it
directs the disabled body of the patient to perform a medically
approved act, as a
teacher it lays out the rules of conduct for the differently abled
pupil and as a priest, it lays down the desirable moral obligation for
a special section
among the faithful. For the government, acting as doctor and priest,
nationalist sentiments are the most potent therapy for all
disabilities of the citizenry.

All these roles perpetuate a code of conduct within which the nation’s
disabled bodies have to function. In all these roles, the government
enables the
disabled body to act under constraints, thus granting it agency by
taking away free will. The idea of the citizen-body’s free will is
subsumed by the idea
of a crisis. Hyper-nationalism is a discourse of crisis, real or
imagined. It is only by thinking about a crisis that the nation
supposedly faces either
externally or internally that nationalism can announce its power over
its subjects. Only a nation in crisis can flex its muscles. By a
dubiously paradoxical
logic, a nation seeks to be most powerful when it perceives itself to
be under threat. That is why a nation is always under the spell of
alertness and
wants its subjects to reciprocate that alertness. Disabled bodies and
minds are not exempted from this vigilant act, this show of patriotic
solidarity,
as a nation under threat cannot afford to allow a single part of its
body declared disabled, thus unable to p

Re: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is out for revenge

[Shireen Irani]

even the dialogues sounded very cliched, from the trailer.

i wish they'd consult a few members when they decide to represent a
particular group. my observation is that they only try to get the
physical aspects right. such as the eye-movements and expressions,
walking with the cane, etc. but never attempt to get into the mind and
replicate that. it is only the body of the disabled that fascinates
the non-disabled. never the mind. i think that is the root cause of a
lot of issues between the 2 worlds. right from personal relationships
and social attitudes, which extend to artistic representations.

On 1/25/17, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> HMMM.
> So, it is more or less amitab robbing a bank in aankhen.
> Useless stuff, me thinks.
> Will watch anyway, but cannot guarantee will stay till the end!!
>
>
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> Of George Abraham
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is
> out for revenge
>
> Watched the trailer. Too much violence!
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> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 25 January 2017 08:26
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> Subject: [AI] Its 25th Jan today: Kaabil movie review: Hrithik Roshan is out
> for revenge
>
> Are you going?
> http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/movie-review/kaabil-movie-review-hrithik-roshan-yami-gautam-rakesh-roshan-star-rating-4489671/
> He is a dubbing artiste, she is a pianist. They are both
> happy-go-lucky with a thirst to live life to the fullest. They are
> both blind too but the way Hrithik Roshan and Yami Gautam play the
> leads of Kaabil, it is more incidental than the central focus of the
> film. It is as if the love that envelopes them is enough to defeat the
> odds life has thrown at them. They romance on Rajesh Roshan’s songs,
> prove their dancing chops in Mon Amour and Hrithik even gets to play
> Amitabh Bachchan for a bit.
>
> Kaabil is a Sanjay Gupta film, and in his films, the perfect cannot
> last for too long. The idyllic world of Hrithik and Yami is destroyed
> once Rohit Roy and Ronit Roy’s baddies enter it. Yami’s Supriya will
> fade out of the life of Hrithik’s Rohan, leaving a vacuum that only
> revenge can fill. To be fair to him, he tries the police first but the
> hands of men in khakhi are tied for the Ronit plays a politician, a
> corrupt one at that. Hrithik will unleash mayhem in a style which is
> reminiscent of a typical Sanjay Gupta film.
>
> In that sense, Kaabil is a formula film the likes of which director
> Gupta and producer Rakesh Roshan have tried time and again. Seems to
> be inspired by Hollywood’s Blind Fury (1989) and Korean hit Broken
> (2014), the film pits its blind protagonist as a man on a mission, out
> to destroy the people who have destroyed him.
>
> The focus is on action, done the Sanjay Gupta way. Read that as dull,
> dark tones and a lot of blood. The focus is on Hrithik Roshan’s face
> and his blank eyes. The film’s music, despite the retreaded Haseeno Ka
> Deewana and Kissi se Pyaar Ho Jaaye, fails to actually stay with you
> for long. Urvashi Rautela’s sizzling dance number probably will.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[AI] I Can Finally Be A Proper Patriot—Thanks To The National Anthem Guidelines For The Disabled

[Shireen Irani]

Sometime in late 2017...

I excitedly entered a movie theatre along with my friends and
attendant to watch Woody Allen's latest movie. I was thrilled to
finally be in the theatre.
My mother had visited various cinema halls in the week preceding the
release of the film to check which theatre was accessible, which row
my wheelchair
could most comfortably be parked in and whether there was enough
legroom for me to sit.

block quote
“I realised it would take me three hours and 20 minutes of practice
every day to be ready in 300 days. Right on time for my movie of the
year.
block quote end

However, my preparations had started much earlier. I had started
rehearsing my respect for the national anthem way back in January when
the Home Ministry
came up with
guidelines for the disabled
 to show respect for the national anthem as directed by the Supreme
Court. The guidelines clearly stated that "persons with locomotor
disabilities and
other wheelchair users having affected lower limbs shall position
himself/herself to the extent of maximum attentiveness and alertness
with or without
the help of appropriate aids and appliances". It went on to describe
how "a wheelchair bound person with disability shall make the
wheelchair static, position
himself/herself maintaining the maximum possible alertness physically".

I was elated at this news. I might not have managed to win my country
a cricket match but finally I had a chance to prove my patriotism.

Rehearsals started the very next day. Every morning I would make my
attendant make me sit on a wheelchair and make me drink two espresso
shots. With this,
I would be fully alert. Me being static was the bigger challenge of
course. He would tie my legs to the footrest with a jute rope, my
paunch would be locked
and still courtesy two belts that crisscrossed my upper body. I also
realized that in a live theatre setting I might have a tendency to
look around—after
all, a man is curious. But I was a man on a mission and I had a plan
for that too. I would wear a neck support, ensuring my neck wouldn't
move an inch
during the anthem. I had learnt from Malcolm Gladwell that one needs
10,000 hours of practice to become world class in any field. I might
be disabled,
but I'm a lazy Indian first. I set myself a target of practicing for
1000 hours. Born in the land of Aryabhatta, I'm good at maths too. I
realised it would
take me three hours and 20 minutes of practice every day to be ready
in 300 days. Right on time for my movie of the year.

For my friends with hearing impairments, the national anthem soon
became their favorite aspect of their theatre experience. After all,
the guidelines had
now mandated that "there must be appropriate indication on the screen
that the national anthem is being played or sung as the persons with
hearing disability
are likely to miss the auditory cues". Never mind if they don't
understand the rest of the movie with subtitles absent... at least
they won't miss out
on the national anthem now.

block quote
“Most theatres don't have ramps for those with locomotor disabilities.
But how the hell does that matter? We are now finally, patriotic
citizens of India.

block quote end

Close to a year since the guidelines have been released, it's persons
with blindness that feel shortchanged. The guidelines merely say
"persons with blindness
and low vision shall stand up in respect to national anthem." That's
what everyone does. How do they show extra love for the country?

The guidelines also state that persons with mild intellectual
disability "can be trained to understand and respect National Anthem".
This proved a good
opportunity for Arindam Chaudhuri to make a comeback. He has launched
IIPM in a new avatar – Indian Institute of Patriotism and Morals.
Sadly for him,
he counted his chickens before they hatched and no one has fallen for
his trick and enrolled for the course.

Yes, we live in the 21st century. Yes, movies often don't have
subtitles for the hearing impaired. Yes, they don't have audio
descriptions for the blind.
Yes, most theatres don't have ramps for those with locomotor
disabilities. But how the hell does that matter? We are now finally,
patriotic citizens of
India.

Nipun Malhotra is a wheelchair user who is wondering whether he is
living in a dystopian Netflix show ever since the guidelines for the
disabled were released.
He can be followed on twitter @nipunmalhotra

source:

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/nipun-malhotra-/i-can-finally-be-a-proper-patriot-thanks-to-the-national-anthem/?utm_hp_ref=in-blog&ncid=fcbklnkinhpmg0001


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[AI] facilities for the visually impaired students at the Central Library, IIT Mumbai.

[Shireen Irani]

i know this is a cross-post, but repeating it because the contact info
of the person in charge is given under  the main content.

-- Forwarded message --

Namaskar,

We have facilities for the visually impaired students at the Central
Library. These are available to LHS (left hand side) while entering the
Central Library.

The Institute has procured the

1. latest version of the Jaws-screen reading software
2. Plextalk pocket daisy player and recorder
3. Perkins smart Brailler,
4. Braille embosser/printer,
5. Kuzwell or Open book scan and read software,
6. Zoom X or Pearl- document camera-works as instant reader
7. Sangeeta Software to convert txt files into mp3 files
8. Eye-Pal Rol portable scanners and readers

Please share it to those who may need this assistance.

--
Regards,
Pankaj
GSAA(PG)
+91-8450983539
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[AI] forwarding from another list, on behalf of Fanija. her poetry book: "Ceramic Evening"

[Shireen Irani]

please do  pick up the book!

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:14:09 +0530
Subject: {Disability Studies India} My book "Ceramic Evening"
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Dear all, I would like to inform you that, my first poetry collection
Ceramic Evening got published recently. The book can be ordered by
mailing to writersworkshopkolk...@gmail.com mentioning the details.
Here are the details:
Name of the book: Ceramic Evening
Author: Dr. Jyothsnaphanija
Year: 2016
Price: rs. 150
Publisher: Writers Workshop
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Re: [AI] Finding a Dating Partner

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

if you have a sighted friend who won't mind registering, and going
along with you to those gatherings, that might reduce your awkwardness
with a room full of strangers. it usually does help to an extent. i
think the awkwardness itself comes from being alone among all those
sighted pairs of eyes.
so take a friend, but not 1 who might be out to steal your thunder, or
your dates!
smiles.

good luck.

On 1/17/17, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hi Shirin,
>
> Thank you so much for your thoughtful and detailed response; these are
> precisely the kind of insights that I was  looking for.
> I will definitely check out the resources that you have shared. The second
> one definitely seems worth trying. The only problem is that I am not very
> comfortable in a room full of strangers -- aa problem which is further
> exacerbated by my disability.
> Your tips are very helpful.  I particularly agree with your points about not
> dating a stranger straightaway and widening one's social circle to find a
> partner. I am definitely working on all these areas and will keep your
> suggestions in mind.
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 15, 2017, at 8:04 PM, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>
>> hi Rahul,
>>
>> here are some resources and a few tips that might help/ interest you.
>>
>> i paste below, links for 2 websites/ companies who help singles find
>> dates, though not virtually, but in real life/ actual meetings. i'm
>> not a member with them, but i know of non-disabled friends who've
>> tried them out. the 1st company is quite thorough and systematic. once
>> u register with them, you will be screened, and your profile checked
>> out, to make sure you're a decent guy, seriously
>>
>> interested in finding a date/ potential match. just a small interview
>> with routine questions to establish authenticity of info given. then
>> they organise these events/ get-togethers  once a month i think, where
>> they will invite you, and other members, where you can meet and
>> interact with them, and try and find a suitable date.
>> here's the link for the 1st 1.
>>
>> https://www.floh.in/
>>
>> the second website also works on similar lines, but a bit less
>> serious. they don't check you out themselves. there's no interview or
>> info varification. u just go to the events they will invite you to. so
>> its more of a mixed crowd, with potentially non-serious folks just out
>> to enjoy a good evening. but no harm trying it too. this 1 is not just
>> about finding dates, but even just like-minded friends and hang-out
>> buddies.
>> this is
>>
>> http://www.covalence.in/
>>
>> i haven't looked at the website in great detail, so not sure how
>> accessible it is, while registering. also, i think they both operate
>> primarily in Mumbai. but do find out for other cities if it serves
>> your needs.
>> now for a few suggestions. i'm no expert, but here's a couple of tips
>> that i'd like to put forward, off the top of my head.
>>
>> 1. somewhat obvious, but necessary to be spelt out, is the fact that
>> an active social life does not necessarily imply going to parties or
>> big fun events, it could even be something productive, such as joining
>> a music/ dance class, a language-learning course, facebook and
>> whatsapp groups that might interest you, such as groups for atheists,
>> book/ poetry lovers, animal rights groups, etc.
>>
>> 2. i personally am not very comfortable with the idea of dating
>> complete strangers, so developing friendships and getting to know
>> people before the next step, is i think more fruitful, also because
>> statistically, i would think that people find it more comfortable to
>> go out with a disabled person who is known, rather than a complete
>> stranger approaching via an app, or some  such thing.
>>
>> 3. do put it to your sighted friends, that you're interested in
>> finding a date. word of mouth is still, 1 of the fastest ways of
>> spreading word. i'm not saying it will necessarily work, but people
>> are more likely to consciously introduce you to single, interested
>> women, when they know you too are looking. i've seen it happen a lot
>> even with sighted people.
>>
>> 4. whatever you do, do not. ever. rush things. even if you feel the
>> smallest glimmer of interest or hope from some1, please make sure that
>> you are not too forthright or pushy, after you've once articulated
>> your desire to date. by you, i mean the generic you, not you
>> personally. it does happen, ofte

Re: [AI] Finding a Dating Partner

[Shireen Irani]

hi Rahul,

here are some resources and a few tips that might help/ interest you.

i paste below, links for 2 websites/ companies who help singles find
dates, though not virtually, but in real life/ actual meetings. i'm
not a member with them, but i know of non-disabled friends who've
tried them out. the 1st company is quite thorough and systematic. once
u register with them, you will be screened, and your profile checked
out, to make sure you're a decent guy, seriously

 interested in finding a date/ potential match. just a small interview
with routine questions to establish authenticity of info given. then
they organise these events/ get-togethers  once a month i think, where
they will invite you, and other members, where you can meet and
interact with them, and try and find a suitable date.
here's the link for the 1st 1.

https://www.floh.in/

the second website also works on similar lines, but a bit less
serious. they don't check you out themselves. there's no interview or
info varification. u just go to the events they will invite you to. so
its more of a mixed crowd, with potentially non-serious folks just out
to enjoy a good evening. but no harm trying it too. this 1 is not just
about finding dates, but even just like-minded friends and hang-out
buddies.
this is

http://www.covalence.in/

i haven't looked at the website in great detail, so not sure how
accessible it is, while registering. also, i think they both operate
primarily in Mumbai. but do find out for other cities if it serves
your needs.
now for a few suggestions. i'm no expert, but here's a couple of tips
that i'd like to put forward, off the top of my head.

1. somewhat obvious, but necessary to be spelt out, is the fact that
an active social life does not necessarily imply going to parties or
big fun events, it could even be something productive, such as joining
a music/ dance class, a language-learning course, facebook and
whatsapp groups that might interest you, such as groups for atheists,
book/ poetry lovers, animal rights groups, etc.

2. i personally am not very comfortable with the idea of dating
complete strangers, so developing friendships and getting to know
people before the next step, is i think more fruitful, also because
statistically, i would think that people find it more comfortable to
go out with a disabled person who is known, rather than a complete
stranger approaching via an app, or some  such thing.

3. do put it to your sighted friends, that you're interested in
finding a date. word of mouth is still, 1 of the fastest ways of
spreading word. i'm not saying it will necessarily work, but people
are more likely to consciously introduce you to single, interested
women, when they know you too are looking. i've seen it happen a lot
even with sighted people.

4. whatever you do, do not. ever. rush things. even if you feel the
smallest glimmer of interest or hope from some1, please make sure that
you are not too forthright or pushy, after you've once articulated
your desire to date. by you, i mean the generic you, not you
personally. it does happen, often subconsciously, because 1 is
desperate to make the most of an opportunity. but take this from a
girl, it'd be thee most fatal mistake you'll ever make.

smiles.
these are just my personal, initial  views. i'm sure there'll be many
more concrete ones from others on the list as well.

best wishes!

Shireen.



On 1/15/17, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I hope this message finds you well.
> I know I am going to receive some flak for asking this question, but I
> figured I would ask it anyway.
> I would be extremely grateful if you guys could share the strategies
> that you have adopted (both successful and unsuccessful) for finding a
> dating partner.
>
> I know that Tinder is not accessible and the other dating apps that
> may be accessible aren't sufficiently 'mainstream' to attract anyone
> except busybodies.
> I am averse to the idea of dating someone else with a disability, so
> any apps that may exist for this purpose aren't very useful for me.
>  So I would be curious to know if anyone has any ideas as regards the
> steps that I can take to find someone.
> Also, in light of the fact that blind people typically do not have as
> active a social life as their sighted counterparts, I would be curious
> to know how those of you who are committed were able to find your
> partner.
>
> I know that this is a subject that not many people would be
> comfortable talking about on a public forum, so please feel free to
> email me privately to share your experiences.
> Needless to say, if you think that dating is a western idea that has
> no place in India or I should ask questions about more substantive
> issues, please feel free not to participate in this discussion.
> With those caveats out of the way, I hope to receive some insightful
> responses.
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
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[AI] how to install the jaws patch file correctly to disable the 40 minute mode.

[Shireen Irani]

hi all,

i have just installed jaws 14 on my laptop after upgrading from xp to
windows 7 32 bit.

i also then installed the patch file, after setting the UAC to 0
percent. i am still unable to use it in its full version.

please help, as its very irritating to keep restarting my laptop every
often, especially when i'm working.

please give me detailed steps to resolve the issue.
thanx.



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Re: [AI] Research on Matrimonial Thoughts of Visually Impaired Persons

[Shireen Irani]

@ vamshi jee.

hi,

while i agree that large scail research is necessary for  brodder,
more robust findings, the rule of thumb for any researcher is to take
things 1 step at a time. even if u want to find out anything at its
macro level, it is always wiser to conduct the research in its smaller
chunk form, so that u can tweak the research along the way. otherwise
there become too many variables to control, which interfear and tamper
with the origional research question.

the other thing is, that i have learnd this from personal experience,
that there r indeed cultural differences even between people living in
the same country, but different cities. i'm a resident of Mumbai, and
have now moved to hyderabad for studying.
and believe me, i too was very surprised with how different we r
culturally from each other. it is sad, but true, that some of the
metropoliton cities do indeed display a more open mind set from
certain smaller states.

i'm not saying this in a derogatory manner, and neither am i very
proud about it. i'm just saying that i learned this the hard way from
personal experience with a lot of fellow students from other cities.

all this is to just tell u that the research method followed here, is
a wise way of going about it. of course if it is pursued in its full
capacity later on, and conducted in all cities, then it will give us
the full comprehensive picture we desire. smile.


On 5/4/14, Sushmeetha  wrote:
> Dear Friends
>
> Below is a research conducted on the thoughts of Marriage by persons with
> visual impairment. Request all of you to kindly fill in the form and support
> the student.
>
> Hope to see an overwhelming support.
>
> From: Vaidehi Chilwarwar [mailto:vaidehi.chilwar...@gmail.com]
>
>
> I, Ms. Vaidehi Chilwarwar, a student of M.A in Applied Psychology from Tata
> Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai (TISS) as a part of my research wish to
> collect data on my topic that is SELECTION OF MARRIAGE PARTNER IN
> INDIVIDUALS WITH VISUAL IMPAIRMENT.
>
> The area of study is to look at the various characteristics that
> individuals, in the age range of 18 to 35 years, consider when they are
> thinking of selecting their marriage partner. The study is to understand the
> importance of marriage and to identify the factors that influence the
> selection of prospective marriage partner.
> Enclosed below is a questionnaire which looks at the characteristics while
> selecting a marriage partner. The data collection is only for the purpose of
> research and all the information gathered shall remain completely
> confidential. All the data including your name and other details will be
> kept anonymous.
>
> I would like to request you to please complete the questionnaire, as
> incomplete questionnaire leads to data loss.
> Your responses are of great value to my study and I would appreciate if you
> could take precious time to complete this questionnaire sincerely.
> The Inclusion Criteria is :-
> Participants- Legally Blind Individuals (more than 60% visual impairment)
> Residence- Mumbai
> Language- English Speaking Individuals
> Age- 18 to 35 years old
> Marital status- Unmarried/Currently Single
>
>
> Following is the Link:-
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/142zgEo1MeJdfhFCB-ngIrfLy2htrRTuOLT9N6EjrzMM/viewform?sid&c=0&w=1&token&usp=mail_form_link
>
> Kindly forward this mail along with the aforementioned information to only
> 6-7 individuals for now so that I can carry out my pilot study and make the
> necessary changes in the questionnaire after gathering the data form atleast
> 10 individuals. After discussing the findings with my researcher and
> integrating the changes I will resend you the link which you can upload on
> the website.
>
>
> Regards
> Vaidehi
>
>
>
> -
> Voice Vision,Mumbai,India
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Exclusive interview of 1st blind Banker of India to face public dealings on Radio Udaan!

[Shireen Irani]

sir jee, it would be really nice if you could please mention the name
of the person you're gonna be featuring. while i do understand the
whole surprise element funda, and once in a while it does help to
promote the show well.
but... not every time yar. smile.
please try to mention the names as much as possible.
smile. thanx.

On 5/1/14, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> do listen an exclusive interview of 1st blind banker of India to face the
> public dealings in the bank, with me in program "Ek Mulakat" to be
> broadcasted through your online radio station: www.radioudaan.com
> on Friday, May 2nd 2014 between 9 PM to 10 PM and again on Saturday, may 3rd
> 2014 between 4 PM to  5 PM.
>
> Radio Udaan can also be heard using Tapan Radio on your computer.
>
> Happy listening!
>
> Amit Bhatt
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Re: [AI] Nine Tips For Protecting Windows XP Machines After April 8th, 2014

[Shireen Irani]

thanx a lot for this valuable info.

i'm going through hell only because of this deadly combo of xp and IE
8. i was hoping not to format and  reinstall till i'm back home to my
trusted tecnician, but looks like i have no choice.

On 4/3/14, shahnaz  wrote:
>
>
>
> ) Here are "5 Tips for Protecting Windows XP Machines After April 8, 2014":
>
> http://www.welivesecurity.com/2014/03/28/5-tips-for-protecting-windows-xp-machines-after-april-8-2014/
>
>
>
>
> As you may have read in my post earlier this week about the end of days for
> Windows XP, Microsoft will cease providing security updates for this
> operating
> system
> on April 8, 2014.
> If you cannot get away from Windows XP just yet, there are still a few
> things you can do to defend your XP machines:
>
> list of 5 items
> 1. The first thing is to make sure that you back up your computer's files
> regularly, and periodically test you're your backup strategy by restoring
> backups,
> preferably on a different computer, a few times a year. This helps ensure
> that in the event of a catastrophe, you will still have access to the
> information
> on your computer. The time to worry about your backups is not when faced
> with a virus, fire, earthquake or other calamity.
> 2. The next thing to do is to make sure that your copy of Windows XP is
> up-to-date. Although Microsoft will stop making new updates for Windows XP
> after
> April 8, 2014, all of the old updates from before then will still be
> available, and should be applied. This also applies to the device driver
> software
> (a device driver is a computer program that allows the operating system to
> communicate with a particular kind of hardware), which may be available from
> your computer manufacturer or Microsoft's Windows Update web site.
> 3. In addition to the operating system and drivers, you should also make
> sure you have the latest versions of your application software on the
> computer,
> and that those are fully-patched and updated. Programs like Adobe Flash,
> Adobe Reader and Oracle Corp.'s Java are frequently targeted by the criminal
> gangs
> that develop and use malware, so keeping these up-to-date is just as
> important as looking after the operating system. Other software that you
> use, such
> as Microsoft Office, web browsers and so forth, should be on the latest
> version and have the latest patches applied as well.
> 4. If the computer does not have to be connected to the Internet, disconnect
> or disable the connection so that the PC can only connect to other machines
> on the same non-Internet network. This will ensure that Internet-borne
> threats cannot directly attack your XP PC, and will make it harder for an
> attacker
> to steal data off the computer.
> 5. Make sure your security software is up-to-date, as well. There are lots
> of security programs available for Windows XP, and most of their authors
> have
> committed to supporting Windows XP for years to come. Some are free, while
> others are sold as a subscription. A discussion of the features needed to
> protect
> Windows XP is outside the scope of this article, but at the very least, I
> would recommend looking for a security program that combines signature-based
> and heuristic detection, includes a firewall, and has some kind of host
> intrusion protection system. Vulnerability shielding and exploit blocking
> will
> be useful as well, as Windows XP will no longer be updated by Microsoft to
> protect against these types of attacks.
> list end
>
> While these tips will help, your main goal should figuring out how to move
> away from Windows XP. If it is simply a matter of replacing a critical
> application,
> work out the cost and build that into your operating budget, likewise for
> computer upgrades or even replacement computers. That may be a capital
> expense,
> and an unwanted one in this economy, however, it is still better than going
> out of business because outdated computers failed or critical data was
> stolen.
>
> Having to replace working computers every few years is not fun, but, like
> other mechanical equipment, computers do wear out and need to be replaced.
> Software,
> too, gets updated periodically, not just with security patches, but new
> features and functionality as well, that can improve your bottom line. You
> might
> find my
> podcast on security for older systems
>  to be helpful listening material.
>
> For readers who are using ESET for their anti-malware protection there is a
> helpful Knowledgebase article "
> Microsoft Windows XP end of support and ESET products
> ." ESET is committed to supporting the Microsoft Windows XP operating system
> for 32-bit and 64-bit versions of ESET products at least until the end of
> April, 2017.
>
> Author
> Aryeh Goretsky,
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Re: [AI] Record your favorite poem for blind people

[Shireen Irani]

can any1 post that particular link?? is it operational already??
is it good??
even accessability wise??

plz post the link whoever knows of it.
thanx.

On 4/1/14, Prashant Naik  wrote:
> Sharing a news article.
> Record your favorite poem for blind people
>
> Nergish Sunavala,TNN | Apr 1, 2014
>
> MUMBAI: Prathamesh Bendre is a 19-year-old political science student from
> St Xavier's College. He is also a poet with his own blog. But unlike most
> poets, he can't choose a book and curl up in a secluded corner. When he
> wants to hear a new poem, Bendre, who has been visually challenged from
> birth, has to rely on audio books, a monotonous screen-reading software or
> patient friends and relatives.
>
>  A new initiative 'Your Voice, Their World' will soon give Bendre a
> superior option. Since March 3rd, individuals from across the country have
> been logging onto a website or downloading an app and recording their
> favorite poems. Already over 800 poems -- both original compositions and
> ones by established poets like William Shakespeare and Harivansh Rai
> Bachchan -- have been recorded. The poems will then be compiled into a
> digital archive, which can be accessed by a network of over 10,000 visually
> impaired individuals from across India. This project, which is the
> brainchild of the National Association of the Blind (NAB) in Delhi, Japan's
> Omron Corporation and healthcare advertising network, McCann Health, was
> initially restricted to academic and vocational textbooks but gradually
> morphed into its present avatar.
>
>  "Only 1% of the print material in India is accessible to the blind and
> that too mostly consists of textbooks," explained Ankur Sachin Bhat,
> manager of corporate communications at Omron. "But blind people also have
> the same recreational needs of listening to good songs and poems, so we
> thought of creating an online library of poems." As of now, the archive is
> restricted to English and Hindi but it might soon be expanded to include
> regional languages. This is particularly important because there are no
> screen-reading softwares for regional languages, explained Prashant Ranjan,
> joint secretary of the NAB, Delhi.
>
>  Each of the 1000 poems listed on the website can be recorded by three
> separate individuals and only the best version will be included in the
> archive. Despite these precautions, Bendre worries that the "delivery" of
> the poems might leave something to be desired though he agrees that the
> archive is a step in the right direction. "I am glad that NAB is doing
> something in the field of poetry because even in general, poetry is
> ignored," said the budding John Milton.
>
> Source -
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/City/Mumbai/Record-your-favorite-poem-for-blind-people/articleshow/33034243.cms
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Re: [AI] For Ph.D

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

its also good if you visit that particular department in whichever
university you go to, and speak to the head of the department, letting
them know that u wish to apply, and your area of research interest.
there you will get all the info u need about the application
procedure, and you can also find out if any particular proff is
interested in that area and would be willing to take u etc. of course
the procedure protocol will have to be followed, but an informal chat
in advance might help u to get to know eachother.

i have never faced such a problem, but i have known of blind students
complaining that some proffs r reluctant to take them because they r
unsure of our capabilities. so it would be great if you can give them
that confidence in you in advance.

then u will have to give an entrance exam for which u could find out
if that department has any previous question papers u could refer to.
so only if u clear the entrance exam, wil u be called for an interview.

then, read at least a couple of books, and a couple of latest research
papers in the area you wish to pursue. write about a page on your
statement of purpose, and what are the exact research questions you're
looking at. dont forget to mention the references in the end. the
books and research papers you have read in that area.

also, write only whatever u are confident about. dont write anything
that u dont understand. because the questions in your interview will
be mainly based on the proposal you have written.

do mail me if you have any other specific questions.
all the best!!!

On 3/28/14, Mohit Gupta  wrote:
> Dear list members
> I would like to know about Ph.D after masters. If i want to do it,
> what should I do?
>
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards,
> Mohit Gupta.
> Rajasthan.
>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[Shireen Irani]

in this case, it refers to any instrument that generates sound out of
itself, and not electronically.

so anything non-electronic, such as the flute, your basic guitar,
drums, etc, that do not use electronic/digital means or electronic
processors to produce music, would be an acoustic instrument.

i dont mean to put u off, but general questions such as these can be
either located quite easily on line, or you could write to me off the
list, if it is not directly accessability related.
thanx.

On 3/19/14, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Thank you very much for the information.
> By the way, what does "acoustic" exactly mean?
> Best Regards
> Bhavya Shah
>
> On 3/18/14, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> i think, and hope, that the main confusion is between a keybord and a
>> Casio.
>>  well, do u know how when we want to buy a water bottle, we sometimes
>> ask the shop keeper for a bislerry??
>> so bislerry is just 1 of the brands of water available in the market,
>> but that name is extended to the product itself, right??
>> similarly, Casio happened to be 1 of the 1st few brands of keybords,
>> and hence a lot of people extended the turm Casio to any keybord they
>> referred to. so its basically an extention, or just another name for
>> any electronic keybord, while in fact, also being 1 among many
>> competing brands of keybords.
>> so any electronic portable keybord is a keybord, and sometimes loosely
>> called a Casio, whereas, the full-fledged upright acoustic instrument,
>> that is not so easily portable is a piano.
>> although pianos conventionally do not work on electricity, there are
>> now also electric pianos, also known as digital pianos.
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/14, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> I am curious to know the difference between the following instruments:
>>> Keyboard
>>> Piano
>>> Casio
>>> I would appreciate any assistance.
>>> Best Regards
>>> Bhavya Shah
>>>
>>> On 3/18/14, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>>> all keybords are digital keybords.
>>>>
>>>> the only thing non-digital would be a full-fledged piano. which is
>>>> purely acoustic and does not run on electricity.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/18/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>>>> Hi, what's the difference between digital and normal keyboard
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> From: "Sumesh Surendran" 
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:12 PM
>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard
>>>>>
>>>>>> രരDear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am also planning to buy a digital keyboard. I am not a professional
>>>>>> musician. My objective is to learn keyboard right from the basic
>>>>>> lessons. I belong to Kerala in South India and my field of interest is
>>>>>> Karnatic based melodious songs. I want to learn playing such songs in
>>>>>> it. Also I would like to have the Indian instruments like flute,
>>>>>> sitar, santoor, tabla, mridangam etc which will be more useful to
>>>>>> materialise my objective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not having an idea to become a keyboardist by profession, but I
>>>>>> want to learn it as part of my personal enjoyment. I would like to
>>>>>> have a keyboard which is the most durable as I can keep it with me for
>>>>>> ever and enjoy playing it.
>>>>>> I searched a lot and fount one keyboard named Yamaha PSR I455 which is
>>>>>> having some indian instruments in it. But I am not having a clear idea
>>>>>> of the product. So could you please help me in identifying the best
>>>>>> product for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also please throw some light in to the area of it's accessibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With lots of thanks and regards,
>>>>>> Sumesh K S
>>>>>> Chief computer trainer
>>>>>> RCG SRVC Centre
>>>>>> Vismaya Info Park
>>>>>> Cochin, Kerala
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not
>>>>>>> beyond
>>

Re: [AI] BGFI's March Session-"Spice it up in the Kitchen!"

[Shireen Irani]

i really wish i could have attended this 1. hope this ones gonna be recorded??
or is it gonna be like a free-flowing workshop??

please please record it if possible. however free-flowing it is.
thanx.

On 3/19/14, Blind Graduates' Forum of India  wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Greetings from Blind Graduates Forum of India (BGFI)!
>
> We invite you for our March monthly session- Spice It Up in The Kitchen!
> Here's presenting an opportunity for all the foodies and debuts to get
> introduced to the delights of cooking, and of course for the kitchen
> buffs and the experienced to share their knowledge.
>
> Our Panel comprises visually impaired Men and women who have a long
> history of cooking different veg and non veg cuisines right from the
> basics to the mouth watering delicacies.  In addition we also have a
> sighted panellist - a seasoned chef who has trained quite a few
> visually impaired individuals. Learn about organising your kitchen,
> using simple equipments, safety measures, cleaning chopping and
> cooking tips and tricks and much much more.
>
> Ladies and gentleman let us allow ourselves a chance to experience the
> joy of cooking, the joy of being independent and the joy of feeding
> your loved ones!
> So Stop being shy , drop your inhibitions, and join us in this yummy world
>
> Details of the event:
> Date: Saturday, March 22, 2014.
> Time: 3 p.m. to 6 p.m.
>
> Venue: Yashwantrao Chavan Pratishthan basement hall, Jagannathrao
> Bosale Marg, Nariman Point, Mumbai 400021 - opposite Mantralay.  The
> venue can be conveniently reached by bus root number 138 from CST
> station as well as 138/100 from Churchgate station.  Share taxi
> services are also available from both these railway stations.
>
>   For any queries Call Dinesh on 9969029700
>
>Regards,
>
> The BGFI Team
>
>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[Shireen Irani]

i think, and hope, that the main confusion is between a keybord and a Casio.
 well, do u know how when we want to buy a water bottle, we sometimes
ask the shop keeper for a bislerry??
so bislerry is just 1 of the brands of water available in the market,
but that name is extended to the product itself, right??
similarly, Casio happened to be 1 of the 1st few brands of keybords,
and hence a lot of people extended the turm Casio to any keybord they
referred to. so its basically an extention, or just another name for
any electronic keybord, while in fact, also being 1 among many
competing brands of keybords.
so any electronic portable keybord is a keybord, and sometimes loosely
called a Casio, whereas, the full-fledged upright acoustic instrument,
that is not so easily portable is a piano.
although pianos conventionally do not work on electricity, there are
now also electric pianos, also known as digital pianos.


On 3/18/14, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Hi.
> I am curious to know the difference between the following instruments:
> Keyboard
> Piano
> Casio
> I would appreciate any assistance.
> Best Regards
> Bhavya Shah
>
> On 3/18/14, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> all keybords are digital keybords.
>>
>> the only thing non-digital would be a full-fledged piano. which is
>> purely acoustic and does not run on electricity.
>>
>> On 3/18/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>> Hi, what's the difference between digital and normal keyboard
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: "Sumesh Surendran" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:12 PM
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard
>>>
>>>> രരDear all,
>>>>
>>>> I am also planning to buy a digital keyboard. I am not a professional
>>>> musician. My objective is to learn keyboard right from the basic
>>>> lessons. I belong to Kerala in South India and my field of interest is
>>>> Karnatic based melodious songs. I want to learn playing such songs in
>>>> it. Also I would like to have the Indian instruments like flute,
>>>> sitar, santoor, tabla, mridangam etc which will be more useful to
>>>> materialise my objective.
>>>>
>>>> I am not having an idea to become a keyboardist by profession, but I
>>>> want to learn it as part of my personal enjoyment. I would like to
>>>> have a keyboard which is the most durable as I can keep it with me for
>>>> ever and enjoy playing it.
>>>> I searched a lot and fount one keyboard named Yamaha PSR I455 which is
>>>> having some indian instruments in it. But I am not having a clear idea
>>>> of the product. So could you please help me in identifying the best
>>>> product for me.
>>>>
>>>> Also please throw some light in to the area of it's accessibility.
>>>>
>>>> With lots of thanks and regards,
>>>> Sumesh K S
>>>> Chief computer trainer
>>>> RCG SRVC Centre
>>>> Vismaya Info Park
>>>> Cochin, Kerala
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>>>> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
>>>>> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> TS Negi
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[Shireen Irani]

all keybords are digital keybords.

the only thing non-digital would be a full-fledged piano. which is
purely acoustic and does not run on electricity.

On 3/18/14, TS Negi  wrote:
> Hi, what's the difference between digital and normal keyboard
>
> --
> From: "Sumesh Surendran" 
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 5:12 PM
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard
>
>> രരDear all,
>>
>> I am also planning to buy a digital keyboard. I am not a professional
>> musician. My objective is to learn keyboard right from the basic
>> lessons. I belong to Kerala in South India and my field of interest is
>> Karnatic based melodious songs. I want to learn playing such songs in
>> it. Also I would like to have the Indian instruments like flute,
>> sitar, santoor, tabla, mridangam etc which will be more useful to
>> materialise my objective.
>>
>> I am not having an idea to become a keyboardist by profession, but I
>> want to learn it as part of my personal enjoyment. I would like to
>> have a keyboard which is the most durable as I can keep it with me for
>> ever and enjoy playing it.
>> I searched a lot and fount one keyboard named Yamaha PSR I455 which is
>> having some indian instruments in it. But I am not having a clear idea
>> of the product. So could you please help me in identifying the best
>> product for me.
>>
>> Also please throw some light in to the area of it's accessibility.
>>
>> With lots of thanks and regards,
>> Sumesh K S
>> Chief computer trainer
>> RCG SRVC Centre
>> Vismaya Info Park
>> Cochin, Kerala
>>
>>
>> On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
>>> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
>>> Thank you
>>> Regards
>>> TS Negi
>>>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[Shireen Irani]

yes it will.

On 3/17/14, Sumesh Surendran  wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks a lot for your valuable info.
> I'm not learning Karnatic classical, but I love to play simple
> malayalam, tamil or hindi film songs which is having a melodious
> touch.
> Will the yamaha keyboard which I mentioned suitable for this purpose?
> With lots of thanks and regards,
> Sumesh K S
> On 3/17/14, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> any keybord from the yamaha psr series will do good for you.
>> however as i think u realise, it is not possible to play Karnatic
>> music in its purest form on a western instrument such as a keybord. so
>> let both of them be separet hobbies.
>> learning the keybord, and learning karnatic music on an indian
>> instrument more suited for the purpose.
>> best,
>> shireen.
>>
>> On 3/17/14, Sumesh Surendran  wrote:
>>> രരDear all,
>>>
>>> I am also planning to buy a digital keyboard. I am not a professional
>>> musician. My objective is to learn keyboard right from the basic
>>> lessons. I belong to Kerala in South India and my field of interest is
>>> Karnatic based melodious songs. I want to learn playing such songs in
>>> it. Also I would like to have the Indian instruments like flute,
>>> sitar, santoor, tabla, mridangam etc which will be more useful to
>>> materialise my objective.
>>>
>>> I am not having an idea to become a keyboardist by profession, but I
>>> want to learn it as part of my personal enjoyment. I would like to
>>> have a keyboard which is the most durable as I can keep it with me for
>>> ever and enjoy playing it.
>>> I searched a lot and fount one keyboard named Yamaha PSR I455 which is
>>> having some indian instruments in it. But I am not having a clear idea
>>> of the product. So could you please help me in identifying the best
>>> product for me.
>>>
>>> Also please throw some light in to the area of it's accessibility.
>>>
>>> With lots of thanks and regards,
>>> Sumesh K S
>>> Chief computer trainer
>>> RCG SRVC Centre
>>> Vismaya Info Park
>>> Cochin, Kerala
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>>> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
>>>> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>> TS Negi
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

any keybord from the yamaha psr series will do good for you.
however as i think u realise, it is not possible to play Karnatic
music in its purest form on a western instrument such as a keybord. so
let both of them be separet hobbies.
learning the keybord, and learning karnatic music on an indian
instrument more suited for the purpose.
best,
shireen.

On 3/17/14, Sumesh Surendran  wrote:
> രരDear all,
>
> I am also planning to buy a digital keyboard. I am not a professional
> musician. My objective is to learn keyboard right from the basic
> lessons. I belong to Kerala in South India and my field of interest is
> Karnatic based melodious songs. I want to learn playing such songs in
> it. Also I would like to have the Indian instruments like flute,
> sitar, santoor, tabla, mridangam etc which will be more useful to
> materialise my objective.
>
> I am not having an idea to become a keyboardist by profession, but I
> want to learn it as part of my personal enjoyment. I would like to
> have a keyboard which is the most durable as I can keep it with me for
> ever and enjoy playing it.
> I searched a lot and fount one keyboard named Yamaha PSR I455 which is
> having some indian instruments in it. But I am not having a clear idea
> of the product. So could you please help me in identifying the best
> product for me.
>
> Also please throw some light in to the area of it's accessibility.
>
> With lots of thanks and regards,
> Sumesh K S
> Chief computer trainer
> RCG SRVC Centre
> Vismaya Info Park
> Cochin, Kerala
>
>
> On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
>> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
>> Thank you
>> Regards
>> TS Negi
>>
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Re: [AI] Guard My Angel, mobile app adapted for visually impaired people -

[Shireen Irani]

i wonder y people would have promoted it in spite of it being unavailable then.
i too should have probably checked it out before forwarding.
sorry about that. though i wonder y its no more. it would have been
quite a boon.

On 3/15/14, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> I'm sorry the app appears to have been discontinued on android market
> because the given link directing to the app on the Play Store doesn't seem
> to be
> authentic. Don't know about iPhone though.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shireen Irani" 
> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
> phonesand Tabs." ; "accessindia"
> 
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 1:56 AM
> Subject: [AI] Guard My Angel,mobile app adapted for visually impaired
> people -
>
>
> do we know about this app??
> sorry if this has already been posted, and for my previous ignorance if at
> all.
>
> Guard My Angel mobile app adapted to visually impaired people -
> Guard My Angel is a free mobile application which enhances people's
> security and safety. In case of any personal emergency, the app
> automatically sends alerts to pre-selected contacts, and directs them
> to the user's exact location utilizing "live" maps. Help is on the
> way!
>
> My guardian angle website link
> http://www.prlog.org/11967532-guard-my-angel-mobile-app-adapted-to-visually-impaired-people.html
>
> How does it work? Whenever and wherever there is a need for enhanced
> security, the user can start an event by setting a timer for the
> event's duration.
> After pressing the "Watch over me!" button, a countdown starts. The
> user can press the "I'm OK" button at any time stopping the countdown.
> In case of emergency,
> and once the countdown reaches zero, the app automatically sends
> various alerts (e.g., SMS, emails, Facebook notifications, etc.) to
> the contacts, notifying
> them of the user's need for help including the user's exact location
> on a continuously updating "live" map.
>
> Furthermore, the user can also press a special SOS button at any time
> to activate an immediate alarm.
>
> "We received very strong and helpful feedback from blind and
> vision-impaired people who feel that Guard My Angel can be a great
> tool for them", said Amir
> Cohen, Cayo-Tech's CEO. "We are proud to provide enhanced
> accessibility support for the relevant users and enhance the security
> and safety of numerous
> people around the world".
>
> Guard My Angel can also automatically detect unforeseen emergencies
> (e.g., car accidents) and respond with alarms and requests for
> assistance.
>
> The application is available for Android on Google play -
> http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.guardmya...,
> and for iPhones on the AppStore -
> http://itunes.apple.com/app/guard-my-angel/id541879050?mt=8
>
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> http://www.guardmyangel.com.
>
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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[Shireen Irani]

ok. so we were talking about 2 different models. which is fine, he
could have a look at both and take whichever suits his requirements.
thanx.

On 3/15/14, ishita kapoor  wrote:
> hello shireen,,
> i was talking about roland e09 in, not e09.
> e09 in has more indian instruments. and tones of that keyboard are
> switter and more professional in compare to old e09.
>
> On 3/14/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>> Thank yoou very much sir.
>>
>> ------
>> From: "Shireen Irani" 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 1:12 PM
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> 1st, please note, that all fully professional key-bords are priced
>>> above 5. so the range u are looking at, are the semi-professional
>>> ones, which are also not bad, but it all depends on your requirements
>>> and what is your idea of professional.
>>> if you want it for bolliwood live shows, then yes, the roland e09 is
>>> quite good, and u could also look at the corg P A 50.
>>> if u want 1 for programming, or western music, then you will have to
>>> invest a bit more.
>>> its best to go to a show room that has all varieties, and c what suits
>>> your needs best.
>>>
>>> if you want, once you have done that and narrowed down to 2 or 3
>>> keybords, then you could perhaps write to me off list, and i'll help u
>>> select the best from them.
>>>
>>> hope that helps,
>>> best,
>>> shireen.
>>>
>>> On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
>>>> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
>>>> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>> TS Negi
>>>>
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[AI] how to watch Youtube links embedded inside other links??

[Shireen Irani]

hi all,

often there are articles on other websites, with You tube links
embedded inside as references, which jaws reads as flash start, flash
end,
or as a youtube frame end, or some such thing. i have tried pressing
enter on all those things but haven't been able to get to the video.
please tell me how i can get to any videos posted that way, inside other links.
thanx,
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[AI] Guard My Angel, mobile app adapted for visually impaired people -

[Shireen Irani]

do we know about this app??
sorry if this has already been posted, and for my previous ignorance if at all.

Guard My Angel mobile app adapted to visually impaired people -
Guard My Angel is a free mobile application which enhances people's
security and safety. In case of any personal emergency, the app
automatically sends alerts to pre-selected contacts, and directs them
to the user's exact location utilizing "live" maps. Help is on the
way!

My guardian angle website link
http://www.prlog.org/11967532-guard-my-angel-mobile-app-adapted-to-visually-impaired-people.html

How does it work? Whenever and wherever there is a need for enhanced
security, the user can start an event by setting a timer for the
event's duration.
After pressing the "Watch over me!" button, a countdown starts. The
user can press the "I'm OK" button at any time stopping the countdown.
In case of emergency,
and once the countdown reaches zero, the app automatically sends
various alerts (e.g., SMS, emails, Facebook notifications, etc.) to
the contacts, notifying
them of the user's need for help including the user's exact location
on a continuously updating "live" map.

Furthermore, the user can also press a special SOS button at any time
to activate an immediate alarm.

"We received very strong and helpful feedback from blind and
vision-impaired people who feel that Guard My Angel can be a great
tool for them", said Amir
Cohen, Cayo-Tech's CEO. "We are proud to provide enhanced
accessibility support for the relevant users and enhance the security
and safety of numerous
people around the world".

Guard My Angel can also automatically detect unforeseen emergencies
(e.g., car accidents) and respond with alarms and requests for
assistance.

The application is available for Android on Google play -
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.guardmya...,
and for iPhones on the AppStore -
http://itunes.apple.com/app/guard-my-angel/id541879050?mt=8

For more information please visit
http://www.guardmyangel.com.



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Re: [AI] Want to buy a musical keyboard

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

1st, please note, that all fully professional key-bords are priced
above 5. so the range u are looking at, are the semi-professional
ones, which are also not bad, but it all depends on your requirements
and what is your idea of professional.
if you want it for bolliwood live shows, then yes, the roland e09 is
quite good, and u could also look at the corg P A 50.
if u want 1 for programming, or western music, then you will have to
invest a bit more.
its best to go to a show room that has all varieties, and c what suits
your needs best.

if you want, once you have done that and narrowed down to 2 or 3
keybords, then you could perhaps write to me off list, and i'll help u
select the best from them.

hope that helps,
best,
shireen.

On 3/13/14, TS Negi  wrote:
> Hi friends, I want to buy a keyboard of professional quality not beyond
> 40,000. please suggest me a good brand/model with the reason.
> Thank you
> Regards
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Re: [AI] Negative Voting

[Shireen Irani]

yeah, its there. but it serves no real purpose. it is absolutely
inconsequencial and pointless using this fascility. just an extra
button that will change nothing.
i would think that its probably betterr to vote for some1 u really
want, rather than not be counted as a voter at all, because u used
negative voting.
this is just my opinion. i'd be happy if some1 is able to convince me otherwise.

On 3/12/14, rajagopal 78  wrote:
> Dear Friends
>
> We are been fighting for social Justice and equality neither parliamentary
> enacted new disability bill  nor states enacted disable people friendly
> bill either. We are approach to supreme court as well as respective state
> high-courts. We have another tool in the form of negative voting to raise
> our voice in the coming parliamentary election. I urge everybody enroll
> your self in the electoral roles and exercise the your vote and send the
> strong message to your representative, do not restrain from negative
> voting. its symbol is square box in the electronic voting machine.
>
> As per the supreme court directions to election commission under people
> representation act we have the negative voting do make use of fully. for
> more details Toll free no 1950
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Rajgopal N
> 9844651950 / 8762301662
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Re: [AI] FW: Is Helen Keller's Experience a Counter Example to "Philosophic Insight from the Blind?"

[Shireen Irani]

great food for thought.

actually both are extreme views, and at least as of now it would be
wiser to hang around somewhere in between.
there are of course somethings that are surely pre-wired. there's no
doubt about that.
the ability to learn languages, for example. although we learn words
depending on our environment language, there are structures that have
already been genetically encoded. that is y children are able to pick
up as many languages when they r small, without much help.

at the same time, something like fear, is pretty-much learnd
behaviour. that's y children who have been brought up in forests are
not fearful of insects and other animals that city dwellers will run
away from.
so the line between the extent of genetics and culture is still very
hazy. there's no definitive answer yet.
so let me leav u with a question:
a lot of blind people poke their eyes, as young children.
would u blaim this on genetics, or is it social??
of course it is not learnd by immitation. because there isn't any1 to
learn from. but i'm quite sure its not genetic either.
so...
anyway. any1 interested in taking this debate further can probably
respond off this list.
thanx harish for sharing this. i thrive on such questions!



On 3/10/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> All
> Something to ponder over.
> Harish Kotian
>
>
> From: Richard Seltzer [mailto:selt...@samizdat.com]
> Sent: 08 March 2014 21:13
> To: selt...@samizdat.com
> Subject: Is Helen Keller's Experience a Counter Example to "Philosophic
> Insight from the Blind?"
>
>
> FYI -- I just posted this in my blog http://www.samizdat.com/blog/
>
>
>
> _
>
>
>
> Since many people in my audience are blind and I am not, I feel compelled to
> send a followup to yesterday's message about "The World As I Have Found It"
> by Mary L. Day Arms. I'm hoping for feedback - either validation or counter
> examples from personal experience.
>
>
>
> I can't help but wonder if Helen Keller's experience is a counter example.
>
>
>
> In her autobiography, "The Story of My Life", she says, "It seems to me that
> there is in each of us a capacity to comprehend the impressions and emotions
> which have been experienced by mankind from the beginning. Each individual
> has a subconscious memory of the green earth and murmuring waters, and
> blindness and deafness cannot rob him of this gift from past generations.
> This inherited capacity is a sort of sixth sense-a soul-sense which sees,
> hears, feels, all in one."
>
>
>
> That concept is tantalizingly similar to Jung's collective unconscious. And
> it is very tempting to take it as gospel that we all start with the same
> capacity to understand the world - that the human brain and the world it
> perceives are in harmony from birth; that "green earth" and "murmuring
> waters" are primordial ideas that we are born with and that there is a
> moment of recognition when we first perceive the associated phenomena.
>
>
>
> That concept of Helen Keller's is very different from the theory I expressed
> yesterday that the brain is plastic at birth and that it develops the
> capacity to process sense data in response to that data, that the ways we
> think are contingent on our experiences, leading to significant differences
> related to the abilities of our senses, our cultural environment, our social
> roles, and even our sexual roles. If that is the case, then instead of or in
> addition to celebrating our inherent similarity as humans, we should
> celebrate our differences. (I'm not trying to sound "politically correct". I
> hate that kind of jargon. But the logic of my thoughts leads me to that
> conclusion.)
>
>
>
> My idea of the world of a blind and deaf person derives from the movie "The
> Miracle Worker", with its striking scene in which Helen learns the meaning
> of the word "water". Yesterday's thoughts prompted me to read Helen Keller's
> book, where I found out that that brilliant scene, that inspired teaching
> moment was made possible because Helen remembered the word "water" and how
> it sounded and how water itself felt, from the first 19 months of her life,
> when she could see and hear. In that moment, she grasped the concept that
> words could signify things and gradually she learned that words could also
> signify emotions and abstract thoughts. She connected the rudiments of an
> internal map of the world with language, as she had done once before when
> she could see and hear. The moment of insight and learning, when a whole
> world of possibilities flooded her mind was like Proust's famous moment of
> memory which was triggered by taste. She remembered and the strucutres of
> understanding that had already developed when she had sight and hearing
> suddenly connected with the sensations she was now able to perceive.
>
>
>
> By the time Helen Keller was 19 months old, many of the structures for
> processing the data of perception had already formed. She had developed the
> mind of someone who could see and hear before she l

Re: [AI] Death for the mentally disabled | The Economist

[Shireen Irani]

again, i think the point is missed here.

this is not about 1 flight situation. it is about us allowing others
to determine how valuable we r to the world, based on which, our life
decissions will be made by others.
and its not so much for us blind people, who r pretty much out there,
and vocal about everything.
all other disabled comunities r not as privilaged as we r, especially
those with mentall issues.
and i'm quite sure, that a lot of judiciary decissions often not in
their favour.

the need is for us to be extremely loud about the fact, that we will
decide everything that concerns us. not some other bunch whom god
loves more.

ok. wont drag this further. but i wish this was taken more seriously.



On 3/6/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Frankly, Shriyeen, in a real situation, would you really wait for the
> hostess to come to you and say darling, now, let us find our way out and
> sorry for the long delay in attending to you,thanks for the patience shown?
>
> Harish.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Shireen Irani
> Sent: 05 March 2014 22:35
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Death for the mentally disabled | The Economist
>
> sure george, she would.
> but at the end of what, or whom, is the question.
> when time ticks by, and there's only a few seconds in which u could save
> yourself, u see the whole world go by u, while u wait and hope that u can
> make it before the crash.
>
> the main point here is, that we have given people the right to determine
> and
> decide the value of our life and worth. the problem lies there itself. in
> fact, even when they make the announcements they ask people to help
> themselves with the oxygen mask etc, before they help others.
> which is fair enough, but ...there is a clear prioritisation of survival of
> the fittest.
> and i have a problem with their definition of fittest.
>
> i like your perspective, harish. it shall be some consolation in the last
> few moments if ever they come my way. smile.
>
>
>
> On 3/4/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> I don't understand how they have drawn a Lakshman Rekha on 70 IQ
>> level? And can intellectual disability be measured? very complex for
>> me!
>> Mar 4th 2014 15:22 by The Economist | WASHINGTON, DC
>>
>> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/03/capital-punishment
>> WHEN Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, he oversaw the execution
>> of Ricky Ray Rector, a man so feebleminded that he said he would save
>> the pecan pie from his last meal "for later". In 2002 the Supreme
>> Court ruled that putting mentally retarded people to death was a
>> "cruel and unusual" punishment, and therefore unconstitutional. But
>> the justices left it up to the states to define retardation, and this
>> has proven so difficult that on March 3rd the issue came before the
>> Supreme Court again.
>>
>> A Florida man named Freddie Lee Hall (pictured) was convicted in 1978,
>> along with an accomplice, for the rape and murder of a pregnant woman
>> and the murder of a police officer. He was sentenced to death. His
>> lawyers are appealing that he is too mentally incapacitated to be
>> executed.
>>
>>
>> For the bulk of the hour-long hearing, the justices quizzed Seth
>> Waxman, representing Mr Hall, and Allen Winsor, Florida's
>> solicitor-general, about the role of statistics in defining
>> intellectual disability. Florida's test requires defendants to
>> demonstrate both "significantly subaverage intellectual functioning"
>> and impairments in "adaptive behaviour" like communicating and looking
>> after oneself. Psychiatrists use a similar approach and, like Florida,
>> consider an IQ score of 70 or below as indicative of mental
>> disability. But unlike many states and against the medical consensus,
>> Florida uses that score as a rigid cutoff point. Mr Hall's IQ in 2002
>> was 71, so Florida considers him eligible for execution. It refuses to
>> consider other evidence of his disability.
>>
>> That is a very slim line between prison and death, but, as Justice
>> Sonia Sotomayor said, "a line has to be drawn somewhere." The main
>> question she and several justices pressed is whether Florida may
>> ignore the "standard error of measurement" implicit in all
>> intelligence tests. "It is universally accepted," Mr Waxman argued,
>> "that persons with obtained scores of 71 to 75 can and often do have
>> mental retardation"

Re: [AI] Death for the mentally disabled | The Economist

[Shireen Irani]

sure george, she would.
but at the end of what, or whom, is the question.
when time ticks by, and there's only a few seconds in which u could save
yourself, u see the whole world go by u, while u wait and hope that u can
make it before the crash.

the main point here is, that we have given people the right to determine and
decide the value of our life and worth. the problem lies there itself. in
fact, even when they make the announcements they ask people to help
themselves with the oxygen mask etc, before they help others.
which is fair enough, but ...there is a clear prioritisation of survival of
the fittest.
and i have a problem with their definition of fittest.

i like your perspective, harish. it shall be some consolation in the last
few moments if ever they come my way. smile.



On 3/4/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
> I don't understand how they have drawn a Lakshman Rekha on 70 IQ
> level? And can intellectual disability be measured? very complex for
> me!
> Mar 4th 2014 15:22 by The Economist | WASHINGTON, DC
>
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/03/capital-punishment
> WHEN Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, he oversaw the execution
> of Ricky Ray Rector, a man so feebleminded that he said he would save
> the pecan pie from his last meal "for later". In 2002 the Supreme
> Court ruled that putting mentally retarded people to death was a
> "cruel and unusual" punishment, and therefore unconstitutional. But
> the justices left it up to the states to define retardation, and this
> has proven so difficult that on March 3rd the issue came before the
> Supreme Court again.
>
> A Florida man named Freddie Lee Hall (pictured) was convicted in 1978,
> along with an accomplice, for the rape and murder of a pregnant woman
> and the murder of a police officer. He was sentenced to death. His
> lawyers are appealing that he is too mentally incapacitated to be
> executed.
>
>
> For the bulk of the hour-long hearing, the justices quizzed Seth
> Waxman, representing Mr Hall, and Allen Winsor, Florida's
> solicitor-general, about the role of statistics in defining
> intellectual disability. Florida's test requires defendants to
> demonstrate both "significantly subaverage intellectual functioning"
> and impairments in "adaptive behaviour" like communicating and looking
> after oneself. Psychiatrists use a similar approach and, like Florida,
> consider an IQ score of 70 or below as indicative of mental
> disability. But unlike many states and against the medical consensus,
> Florida uses that score as a rigid cutoff point. Mr Hall's IQ in 2002
> was 71, so Florida considers him eligible for execution. It refuses to
> consider other evidence of his disability.
>
> That is a very slim line between prison and death, but, as Justice
> Sonia Sotomayor said, "a line has to be drawn somewhere." The main
> question she and several justices pressed is whether Florida may
> ignore the "standard error of measurement" implicit in all
> intelligence tests. "It is universally accepted," Mr Waxman argued,
> "that persons with obtained scores of 71 to 75 can and often do have
> mental retardation" due to a five-point margin of error. The four
> liberal justices, along with the swing voter, Anthony Kennedy, were
> inclined to agree. "Your rule prevents us from getting a better
> understanding of whether that IQ score is accurate or not," Mr Kennedy
> admonished Mr Winsor.
>
> Not until the closing minutes of the hearing did anyone acknowledge
> the man's life hanging in the balance. Justice Stephen Breyer noted
> that Mr Hall "has been on death row for over 35 years". Justice
> Kennedy asked Mr Winsor if he considered Florida's brand of delayed
> justice to be "consistent with the purposes of the death penalty".
> This inquiry from Mr Kennedy had nothing to do with the narrow legal
> question of the day, but it betrayed his more general doubts about the
> way the Sunshine State puts people to death.
>
> Antonin Scalia, a conservative justice, was more hostile to Mr Hall's
> defence. He noted that it took ten years after his initial conviction
> for Mr Hall's lawyers to raise the issue of retardation. He added that
> the complexity of the crime--which involved hiding one victim's body in
> a wood--belies Mr Hall's purported disability. The state might well
> argue, Justice Scalia said, that Mr Hall "could not have pulled all of
> this off" if he was really so intellectually impaired. This is an old
> theme for Mr Scalia, who argued back in 2002 that the court's bar on
> executing the mentally disabled would turn "the process of capital
> trial into a game" where murderers "feign mental retardation" to avoid
> the death penalty.
>
> Justice Elena Kagan cut to the chase late in the proceedings: "Can I
> just ask," she said to Mr Winsor, "why you have this policy?"
> Initially flummoxed, Mr Winsor replied: "Florida has an interest in
> ensuring that the people who evade execution because of mental
> retardation are pe

Re: [AI] Death for the mentally disabled | The Economist

[Shireen Irani]

seriously ya, the practice of mesuring inteligence using IQ tests
itself, is extremely questionable.

but what is most interesting, and important for all of us here, that
your life and death is determined by people, based on how physically
so called normal u r.
i'm saying this, because i was recently on a flight, when an
airhostess came to me to give me the usual rant of instructions, and
she informed me, that in the event of an immergency evacuation, i will
be the last person to be helped out of the plain. meanning that all
the other normal people, who r more likely to positively contribute to
society, will have a greater chance of survival than me, only because
i'm less of an asset to humanity because of my blindness.
i found this extremely amusing, and felt like spending my entire
travel time, making a list of all the positive contributions made by
my fellow-pasengers, and proving to them, that there would b at least
1 pasenger on bord, who deserved a lesser chance than i did, in that
respect.
anyway. so if nothing else, we must be proactive in society, if only
to survive, and not be the last to be saved, if for no other reason.
smile.


On 3/4/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
> I don't understand how they have drawn a Lakshman Rekha on 70 IQ
> level? And can intellectual disability be measured? very complex for
> me!
> Mar 4th 2014 15:22 by The Economist | WASHINGTON, DC
>
> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/03/capital-punishment
> WHEN Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, he oversaw the execution
> of Ricky Ray Rector, a man so feebleminded that he said he would save
> the pecan pie from his last meal "for later". In 2002 the Supreme
> Court ruled that putting mentally retarded people to death was a
> "cruel and unusual" punishment, and therefore unconstitutional. But
> the justices left it up to the states to define retardation, and this
> has proven so difficult that on March 3rd the issue came before the
> Supreme Court again.
>
> A Florida man named Freddie Lee Hall (pictured) was convicted in 1978,
> along with an accomplice, for the rape and murder of a pregnant woman
> and the murder of a police officer. He was sentenced to death. His
> lawyers are appealing that he is too mentally incapacitated to be
> executed.
>
>
> For the bulk of the hour-long hearing, the justices quizzed Seth
> Waxman, representing Mr Hall, and Allen Winsor, Florida's
> solicitor-general, about the role of statistics in defining
> intellectual disability. Florida's test requires defendants to
> demonstrate both "significantly subaverage intellectual functioning"
> and impairments in "adaptive behaviour" like communicating and looking
> after oneself. Psychiatrists use a similar approach and, like Florida,
> consider an IQ score of 70 or below as indicative of mental
> disability. But unlike many states and against the medical consensus,
> Florida uses that score as a rigid cutoff point. Mr Hall's IQ in 2002
> was 71, so Florida considers him eligible for execution. It refuses to
> consider other evidence of his disability.
>
> That is a very slim line between prison and death, but, as Justice
> Sonia Sotomayor said, "a line has to be drawn somewhere." The main
> question she and several justices pressed is whether Florida may
> ignore the "standard error of measurement" implicit in all
> intelligence tests. "It is universally accepted," Mr Waxman argued,
> "that persons with obtained scores of 71 to 75 can and often do have
> mental retardation" due to a five-point margin of error. The four
> liberal justices, along with the swing voter, Anthony Kennedy, were
> inclined to agree. "Your rule prevents us from getting a better
> understanding of whether that IQ score is accurate or not," Mr Kennedy
> admonished Mr Winsor.
>
> Not until the closing minutes of the hearing did anyone acknowledge
> the man's life hanging in the balance. Justice Stephen Breyer noted
> that Mr Hall "has been on death row for over 35 years". Justice
> Kennedy asked Mr Winsor if he considered Florida's brand of delayed
> justice to be "consistent with the purposes of the death penalty".
> This inquiry from Mr Kennedy had nothing to do with the narrow legal
> question of the day, but it betrayed his more general doubts about the
> way the Sunshine State puts people to death.
>
> Antonin Scalia, a conservative justice, was more hostile to Mr Hall's
> defence. He noted that it took ten years after his initial conviction
> for Mr Hall's lawyers to raise the issue of retardation. He added that
> the complexity of the crime--which involved hiding one victim's body in
> a wood--belies Mr Hall's purported disability. The state might well
> argue, Justice Scalia said, that Mr Hall "could not have pulled all of
> this off" if he was really so intellectually impaired. This is an old
> theme for Mr Scalia, who argued back in 2002 that the court's bar on
> executing the mentally disabled would turn "the process of capital
> trial into a game" wh

Re: [AI] how to speed up the system

[Shireen Irani]

there could b a variety of reasons, but in my case, when i had the
same issue, i had just deleted/uninstalled the last program i had
downloaded. i don't really remember now, which program it was, but try
it. just take out whatever u installed since the problem started.
it might help. also, delete all your temperary files. those r the ones
with extention .tmp.

On 3/3/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel  wrote:
> Hi friends my laptop is processing very slow. Either its the problem
> of jaws or machine itself is giving some problem. I have scanned the
> whole system, still no result. What else can I do for speeding my
> system? Is there any third party software which could identify
> unnecessary programs and removed them in order to do process fast?
>
> --
> Mohib Anwar Rafel
> 2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU.
> 2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi.
> 2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU
>
> Skype: mohibrafel
> Phone: 09811767506,
> 09211192333
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Signature issue

[Shireen Irani]

so is it ok to use stamps for all legal transactions??
could some1 please tell me to what extent is it allowed.
because then that should solve a lot of problems, right??
please educate me on this matter.
thanx.

On 3/3/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hi
> I do understand this problem. The problem has accentuated after core banking
> is deployed. Earlier, the rapport which used to be with the bank officials
> has now withered away. We are talking to an anonymous person at the bank's
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Re: [AI] any1 done any physix in school/college???

[Shireen Irani]

oh all that was a breaze for me. i've finished all of that quite
comfortably. smile.
i'm actually in the 3rd year of my phd. i did my masters from Mumbai,
and now at Hyderabad.
all those things can b tackled with just a little help from friends
and teachers.

its just that now i need to dig deaper into acoustics and hence needed
to know sound production and perception in much greater detail.
thank you again for your advise.
best wishes.



On 2/28/14, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> The real difficulty will come when you will have to do phonetic
> symbols, suprasegmental features, Wh movement, NP movement, TG
> syntacx, minimalist program etc. For that, you will have to take help
> from teachers and other friends. You should also look for some
> alternative representations: like, in x-bar syntax, you can use
> brackets instead of diagram showing binding nodes etc.  It's my past
> and I don't know how much help I would be able to extend you. From
> where are you doing the course?
>
> On 2/28/14, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> oh really??
>> that's fantastic.
>> i thought i was the 1st to take up linguistics, and i'd always wonder
>> y no 1 specialised in this discipline. given that so many of us r so
>> faund of languages.
>> thanx for your response. i think i'll settle with some1 explaining it
>> to me orally, because i'm sort of in a hurry, and approaching any1
>> will take some time.
>> thank u for your response, and nice to meet a fellow-linguist.
>>
>> although i see that u now specialise in history. smile.
>>
>> On 2/28/14, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
>>> Hi Shireen,
>>> Long back, Mr. Milan Das , a scientist at NIVH was developing some
>>> tectile diagrams. But those were not for sale. Now a days, there are
>>> printers available which can give embossed prints. You ask anyone of
>>> such NGOs to print a few graphs or diagrams for you. I think that AICB
>>> has that printer. Or some sensitive person can explain these to you.
>>> When I was in the school my teacher used to make some small embossed
>>> diagrams with a simple styless or alpin. That's how I could study
>>> maths and science till tenth grade.
>>> Glad to know that you are doing linguistics. Years back, I had also
>>> done my masters in the same from University of Delhi.
>>> Best
>>> Naresh
>>>
>>> On 2/28/14, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>>> hi all,
>>>>
>>>> as part of my study in Linguistics, i wish to study the physix of
>>>> sound production, and its nuances: frequency, amplitude, sine wave,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> although theoretically there's no problem understanding it, i'd surely
>>>> have been more enriched if i could know what a wave graf looks like.
>>>> i know that such diagrams have become possible in economics etc, but
>>>> is there any such graff for the physics of sound available in any lab/
>>>> institute??
>>>> if any1 has anything to help in this regard, please get in touch with
>>>> me. its kinda urgent.
>>>> you could write off the list i think.
>>>> thanx.
>>>> Shireen.
>>>>
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>>> Department of History
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Re: [AI] any1 done any physix in school/college???

[Shireen Irani]

oh really??
that's fantastic.
i thought i was the 1st to take up linguistics, and i'd always wonder
y no 1 specialised in this discipline. given that so many of us r so
faund of languages.
thanx for your response. i think i'll settle with some1 explaining it
to me orally, because i'm sort of in a hurry, and approaching any1
will take some time.
thank u for your response, and nice to meet a fellow-linguist.

although i see that u now specialise in history. smile.

On 2/28/14, Naresh Kumar  wrote:
> Hi Shireen,
> Long back, Mr. Milan Das , a scientist at NIVH was developing some
> tectile diagrams. But those were not for sale. Now a days, there are
> printers available which can give embossed prints. You ask anyone of
> such NGOs to print a few graphs or diagrams for you. I think that AICB
> has that printer. Or some sensitive person can explain these to you.
> When I was in the school my teacher used to make some small embossed
> diagrams with a simple styless or alpin. That's how I could study
> maths and science till tenth grade.
> Glad to know that you are doing linguistics. Years back, I had also
> done my masters in the same from University of Delhi.
> Best
> Naresh
>
> On 2/28/14, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>> hi all,
>>
>> as part of my study in Linguistics, i wish to study the physix of
>> sound production, and its nuances: frequency, amplitude, sine wave,
>> etc.
>>
>> although theoretically there's no problem understanding it, i'd surely
>> have been more enriched if i could know what a wave graf looks like.
>> i know that such diagrams have become possible in economics etc, but
>> is there any such graff for the physics of sound available in any lab/
>> institute??
>> if any1 has anything to help in this regard, please get in touch with
>> me. its kinda urgent.
>> you could write off the list i think.
>> thanx.
>> Shireen.
>>
>>
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[AI] any1 done any physix in school/college???

[Shireen Irani]

hi all,

as part of my study in Linguistics, i wish to study the physix of
sound production, and its nuances: frequency, amplitude, sine wave,
etc.

although theoretically there's no problem understanding it, i'd surely
have been more enriched if i could know what a wave graf looks like.
i know that such diagrams have become possible in economics etc, but
is there any such graff for the physics of sound available in any lab/
institute??
if any1 has anything to help in this regard, please get in touch with
me. its kinda urgent.
you could write off the list i think.
thanx.
Shireen.



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Re: [AI] Again brutal lath charge at Rahall Gandhi's house

[Shireen Irani]

seriously. the intentional silence by some seniours and big guys on
this list is extremely suggestive.
all those who otherwise claim to do so much for our comunity, but are
now either silent, or are writing preachy mails about no name calling
etc, i truely hope that u r getting some major insentive for your
cowardess diplomacy.

On 2/28/14, kapil  wrote:
> but he won't like to meet such a person like you. you are justifying the
> lathi charge on peaceful disable protesters? I am short of words to
> criticize this. try to self introspect if still possible.
>
> --
> From: "Radha" 
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 4:25 AM
> To: ; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility
> and issues concerningthe disabled." 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Again brutal lath charge at Rahall gandhi's house
>
>> For what sir,
>> to take away his remaining vision?
>> please can you say the reason behind if not in the list, can do so
>> personally.
>>
>> On 2/28/14, abid...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Dear Kapil,
>>>
>>> Please give me the details about Mr. Ramkaran. I would like to go and
>>> meet
>>> him.
>>>
>>> Javed Abidi
>>> 27.2.2014
>>>
>>> Sent on my BlackBerry(R) from Vodafone
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: "kapil" 
>>> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:37:56
>>> To: ; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
>>> accessibility
>>> and issuesconcerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Again brutal lath charge at Rahall gandhi's house
>>>
>>> because of whom we are facing this, still triing to misguide us through
>>> this
>>>
>>> very form. mr. ramkaran, the arjun awardee is fighting for his little
>>> bit
>>> vision, but this does not matter for him. my fellow access indians were
>>> talking about decend language but he has not given a single answer and
>>> triing to miss use the list. we are protesting tomorrow with bigger
>>> number
>>> do come there.  I want to assure all that all India disability alliance
>>> will
>>>
>>> try its best to prevent this ordinance, and if government still  bring
>>> this
>>>
>>> then it will be challenged in supreme court.
>>>
>>> --
>>> From: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:52 PM
>>> To: ; "Access India"
>>> 
>>> Cc: 
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Again brutal lathicharge at rahul gandhi's house
>>>
 Dear All,

 I am writing this post from outside Ram Manohar Lohia Hospital.

 Not a single disabled person was/is admitted here.

 I went inside the casualty and met the IO Incharge as well as the CMO.
 According to them 5 or 6 people had been brought in with minor injuries
 and they were sent home after basic first aid.

 (2) Before going to RML, I went to "ground zero" to quote my good
 friend
 Subhash Chandra Vashishth.

 According to the senior police officers, they had to resort to a mild
 lathi large since the crowd was unruly and was trying to break the
 barracading put up by the police.

 The Prime Minister was at AICC and they simply could not take any
 chances.

 Javed Abidi
 27.2.2014

 Sent on my BlackBerry(R) from Vodafone

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 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 14:58:42
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 Reply-To: ramdas.shivh...@gmail.com,
 "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled." 
 Cc: jnuvis...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [AI] Again brutal lathicharge at rahul gandhi's house

 Friends police have again resorted to heavy lathicharge on protesters.
 Many partially blind students have almost lost their eyesight. And they
 are admitted in rml. But we will not give in and we will continue oour
 fight unless this ordinance is not taken back. Hope you friends will
 join

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Re: [AI] attention: brutal lathi charge on protesters outside AICC office.

[Shireen Irani]

well,
unfortunately this is part and parsel of every protest. its just a
moralle breaking strategy.

i really wish the protesters at this time could gather as much media
as possible to give as much coverage to this nastiness.

please please call as many news channals u can have access to.

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> Subject: [AI] attention: brutal lathi charge on protesters outside AICC
> office.
>
> Guys,
> today, The government's act has transcended all limits of civilised
> methods of dealing and negotiating with the protesters . there were
> hundreds of disableds protesting at 24 akbar road outside AICC office
> waiting to see  congress leaders. All of a sudden , grabbing the
> collars, police started brutal lathi charge.  More than 20 people have
> been hospitalized. They have sustained huge injuries. it's colonialism
> reborne?
> However, people in huge numbers are still arriving at the venue and
> the protest is still on. now it's a fight to the finish.
>
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Re: [AI] DU professor with disability harassed at Hyderabad airport

[Shireen Irani]

this is just to eliminate any misunderstanding,

the person i called an idiot, was a non-disabled who hid those weapons
under a plaster, and presented a false doctor's certificate. i dont
understand y i am wrong in calling him so.

i called the man who carried those weapons in the plaster, an idiot.
not any1 else. i dont see y u should have had a problem with that. i
called him an idiot for commiting such a crime and hijacking an entire
plain, and creating a general negative prejudice against genuinly
disabled people like u and me.
i hope i am clear this time about whom i addressed that way.
please do not nurture any mis-interpretation here.
i fully do understand and empethise with u. i was just giving the
airline officials the benefit of the doubt, and they certainly may not
know the difference between a plaster and a calliper.

On 2/26/14, Dr Satendra Singh  wrote:
> Thank you guys for your inputs. Let me first correct that I am not
> 'Professor' as quoted rather Assistant professor at UCMS & GTB Hospital.
> TOI perhaps consider all teachers at DU as Professors.
>
> At international airports (Frankfurt, Bangkok, Seoul and Hongkong) ppl with
> disabilities are scanned along with their wheelchairs. The so called
> IT-leader (our own country) wants disabled people to strip, take off their
> orthosis/prosthesis. I told them that I am aware of CAR guidelines, told
> them the past horrible experiences of Suranjana, Rajesh, Jeeja, Anjali but
> they were not willing to listen.
>
> I even told them that I am a specialist MD doctor at GTB hospital, the
> largest government hospital in East Delhi. I further added that I had come
> here for a disability conference. I explained them the difference between
> artificial limb, prosthesis and orthosis. But they had already decided not
> to listen. Srinivasu, none of the CISF officials told me that there is a
> high alert. I never said no to the security. I asked them to scan whatever,
> wherever they wish to. I even requested them to do physical frisking.
>
> When nothing happened, I said if my flight is missed it will be the
> responsibility of IndiGo and CISF to send me back to Delhi. I also told
> them to highlight it in India. It was then that they again scanned and
> certified me 'harmless'.
>
> I empathise with Ms Irani who doesnot know the difference between plaster
> and caliper. Madam, before calling people idiot please know the facts. Our
> disabled community first needs to get sensitised than the non-disabled.
> --
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Re: [AI] Blessed with Sight but Encashing on Blindness

[Shireen Irani]

hi,

1 piece of advice i would immediately give u is,
please please do not take responsibility for him. or what he will do to himself.
even if he takes the most drastic step, which seems a bit unlikely at
such an early stage, but in any case. do not carry any guilt or
responsibility for what that guy will do to himself if u do not
oblige.

u obviously did the sensible thing, and whatever happens next has
nothing to do with u.
so please dont hold yourself responsible, or guilty for any consequences.

On 2/26/14, Syed Imran  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Long Email. Please be warned
>
>
>
> Dating and relationship is something that I haven't given much thought
> about. To me, Dating and sustaining the relationship is a beautiful thing.
> But the idea of using a person's disability (blindness in this case) as a
> means to influence a person's decision power, is it right and ethical?
>
>
>
> There is a park which is a 5-minute walk from my home. I go here for a
> morning exercise and walk every day and sometime for an evening walk if I
> feel like it.
>
>
>
> The incident which I'm narrating occurred within the past few weeks there.
>
> I had an acquaintance who voluntarily offered to walk with me on a regular
> basis. We walked and chatted along and spoke on various subjects - fitness,
> health, work, men, women, politics and all that usual stuff and soon we
> became friends.
>
> This friend of mine had an issue for which he required my assistance. He
> had
> been meeting up a girl for some months and their friendship was great. He
> later proposed her but she refused. So he asked me to say a few "nice
> things" to her and influence her to accept him, which I immediately
> refused.
>
> From what he tells me, he has "plenty of feelings" for her and at this
> point
> he thinks "life is meaningless without her", and he is of the opinion that
> a
> blind person like me can "motivate her" and "get her to accept" him. I just
> told him that forget and forgive her and move on, this is not something for
> me to intervene between him and her.
>
> Let's hope he doesn't take any drastic steps, I'm little concerned.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Syed
>
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Re: [AI] TOI Article: Nursery norms: Centre to clarify on disability quota.

[Shireen Irani]

i totally second that, rajesh,

i think at least the 1st few years of education must necessarily b
spent in schools that do have the specialised experties, as well as
physical and intalectual equipment to shape a disabled child's
formative years.
then of course at the secondary level, the child can move out and take
the inclusive plunge.

it all sounds very nice to obtain all your education in a regular
school, but at least in our country, this is a benefit that only
well-to-do children are privilaged to have.
if u have parents who will give u that extra tution, or the money to
hire a tutor for help, only then does it make sense to put yourself in
the hands of regular schools. because unfortunately even if there is a
reservation for special kids in regular schools, they lak all the
other know-how, and ability to fascilitate an all round development
for that child.
the quality of teachers in regular government schools in itself is so
appalling. where they end up doing more damage then good, even to
non-disabled kids. let alone being able to enrich the crucial years of
a child with special needs.

also, i think its important for the child, at least for sometime, to
be among fellow-mates sharing similar problems and issues in dealing
with their disability, so that the child doesn't grow up feeling alone
and like the odd 1 out.
of course this point is secondry, but all these things do matter.
especially the need to keep in mind our Indian reality.

On 2/26/14, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Looks like there is confusion or created confusion over this?
>
> Source:
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/Nursery-norms-Centre-to-clarify-on-disability-quota/articleshow/31010042.cms
>
> NEW DELHI: The high court on Tuesday asked the Centre to clarify if
> Delhi's schools still have the discretion to provide admissions in
> nursery classes to disabled kids, despite the lieutenant governor's
> guidelines clubbing them with children of economically weaker groups
> (EWS).
>
> A bench of justices S Ravindra Bhat and R V Easwar gave a day's time
> to the Centre to explain after the latter told the court it is up to
> the Delhi government to make guidelines for providing any benefit to
> disabled kids since the city government has enough "elbow room"
> despite the LG's order.
>
> But HC was not satisfied and questioned the Centre's stand saying "no
> elbow room is visible" under the guidelines or the Persons with
> Disabilities Act. It added that if no proper guidelines are framed for
> providing relief to disabled students, the "discretionary approach" of
> schools will get an "escape route".
>
> "If you (Centre and Delhi governments) don't come out with guidelines,
> it could lead to an escape route to the discretionary approach of
> schools," the bench said and kept the matter for Wednesday after the
> counsel, appearing for the Centre, said its officials would be present
> in the court to explain the government's stand.
>
> The bench was hearing a PIL, by Pramod Arora, father of a child with
> special needs, challenging the LG's nursery admission guidelines to
> the extent it clubs disabled children with kids from EWS group. His
> petition also seeks 3% reservation for disabled kids in the nursery
> class.
>
> During the day's proceedings, the Centre said it is for Delhi
> government to evolve guidelines on the issue but the court pointed out
> only when the Centre asks the state government to do so will it acts.
>
> It also asked the Centre to "see what is possible under the Act",
> whether 3% reservation is possible and if yes, how to implement the
> same.
>
> Meanwhile a group of parents on Tuesday also challenged the points for
> interstate transfer in the new nursery admission guidelines. A bench
> of acting Chief Justice and Justice Siddharth Mridul sought a reply
> from the state government and posted the case for Thursday.
>
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Re: [AI] DU professor with disability harassed at Hyderabad airport

[Shireen Irani]

then there is also the fact about that idiot hiding weapons under his
plaster and hijacking a flight.

giving them the benefit of the doubt, there's no way for them to know
who's genuin and who's not.

there needs to be a neater, more fool proof system of security,
something more than a doctor's certificate. this is possible if some
brain-storming happens in the form of a dialog between airline
authorities and representatives from the disabled comunity.
such a conscencis will definitely prevent such harrasment of genuin
people in the future.
but a dialog is very necessary.

On 2/25/14, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> DU professor with disability harassed at Hyderabad airport
>
>
> NEW DELHI: Yet another disabled passenger was harassed at the airport on
> Friday. Satendra Singh, who was travelling from Hyderabad to Delhi, was
> asked by security at Hyderabad's Rajiv Gandhi International Airport to
> remove his leg brace during frisking. Singh, who teaches at the University
> College of Medical Sciences, Delhi University, has post-polio residual
> paralysis and uses a knee-foot-ankle-orthosis (KFAO) also called a caliper
> or brace, for support.
>
>  The confrontation with security officials - the latest in a string of such
> encounters between differently-abled passengers and airport officials -
> lasted about 20 minutes before the officials capitulated. "They wanted me to
> remove the caliper and run it through the x-ray machine," says Singh, "In my
> case that's quite difficult as it goes up to the thigh. I would've had to
> remove my trousers to take the caliper off. It was humiliating. I wanted
> them to carry out an Explosive Trace Detector (ETD) test and was willing to
> let them frisk me."
>
>  Singh, ironically, was returning from a conference on "Evidence in Global
> Disability & Health" in Hyderabad. Employees of the airline were also called
> but a senior officer finally permitted a ETD. Singh also had to explain that
> what he uses isn't a prosthetic limb but an orthosis into which he has to
> place his leg for support.
>
>  "We are merely implementing guidelines issued by the Bureau Civil Aviation
> Security (BCAS). Our officers have been trained and briefed on how to deal
> with differently-abled passengers and we make sure nobody is harassed
> unnecessarily," said Hemendra Kumar, spokesperson, CISF. Singh, however,
> adds that he flies within India frequently but has never had to face this
> before.
>
>  Aviation security officials say people with medical implants won't face any
> trouble and simply need to show a medial certificate. However, there is no
> standard rule for those with external aides and a doctor's certificate may
> not be enough to clear security.
>
>  "The screening officer has to be satisfied that the external aides are for
> genuine use. For this, profiling is done and if the screening officer is not
> satisfied, he or she may ask for the aides to be taken off and screened. In
> the 1980s, a Delhi-Srinagar flight was hijacked by a person who hid weapons
> inside his plaster and carried a doctor's certificate for the same to clear
> security. We cannot take chances as a medical certificate can be easily
> obtained. We regret the inconvenience caused to anyone," said an official.
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/DU-professor-with-disability-harassed-at-Hyderabad-airport/articleshow/30971043.cms
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[AI] a campaign for the blind innitiated by IIT mumbai. Abhyuday 2014 presents 'Lend Your Voice' Campaign

[Shireen Irani]

this is just for your information that they r doing this.

-- Forwarded message --


> An initiative to record audio books for the blind, with support from
> National Association
>
> for the Blind, Mumbai and Arushi Foundation, Bhopal.
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Abhyuday 2014 is proud to present to you 'Lend Your Voice' - an initiative
> to record audiobooks for the blind, with support from National Association
> for the Blind, Mumbai and Arushi Foundation, Bhopal.
>
> The visually impaired have far-seeing dreams and goals in life, just like
> any one of us. However, the inability to read proves to be a major
> obstacle in their path of education. Through this program, we wish to make
> it possible for the blind to delve into the world of books, and help
> realise their dreams.
>
> The books recorded would be of various genres ranging from school
> curriculum to university textbooks, from fiction to management books. The
> initiative will flag off after mid-sems with a recording workshop.
> Following this, all volunteers will be given a book to record, over the
> course of March.
>
> Those who are interested to be a volunteer in this initiative, please fill
> in the following google form:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ErJLStUh4hgwzmoncca-rKJise0yfnrhJb_91c7TEYw/viewform
>
> Warm Regards
> Team Abhyuday, Social Festival of IIT Bombay
> https://www.facebook.com/abhyuday.iitb
>
> Contact:
> Adarsh Rathi, 9757418370
> Ranjeet Gakhare, 9561583090
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