Re: [AI] E72 and talks.

[Vidya Sivadasan]

Hi friend,
This is the one of  the  best  moble , VI can choose. E72 is a high
end, having good battery life, lot of application support, and all the
kind of features than E5.
You can install Talks and mobile speak also.
Regards
Dhanya,
On 6/23/13, jaisonay...@gmail.com jaisonay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hai friends,
 how is E72 with talks? Is it accessible? Users may please give your feed
 back to my personal I D. jaisonay...@gmail.com
 With regards,
 Jaison Bellarmine


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Re: [AI] Facilities for getting updates on Government job openings

[Vidya Sivadasan]

Hi Sir,
Thanks a lot,
Is there any mailing lists for getting updates on bank and other
government exams?
Regards,
Vidya
On 6/23/13, Mr Abhishek Thakur emailtotha...@gmail.com wrote:
 kindly visit www.eyeway.org or call 01126472582 for more information.


 On 6/22/13, Vidya Sivadasan vidyasivadasa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Access Indians,
 This is Vidya from Kerala, finished my Master of Arts and BEd, and
 presently
 ungder going computer training at  SRVC Cochin .

 Could you please tell, for getting  updates on Bank and other  Central
 government job openings  , where we need to register.

 Is there any mailing list for the same?
 I came to know, there is some SMS and E mail alerts from Eye way and NFB
 side,
 can anyone please tell how to get register with these facilities.
 Expecting your favourable response.

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 Vidya Sivadasan,
 SRCVC Cochin

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 Abhishek Thakur
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 Tata Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai India
 Contact number: 7303438391

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[AI] Facilities for getting updates on Government job openings

[Vidya Sivadasan]

Hi Access Indians,
This is Vidya from Kerala, finished my Master of Arts and BEd, and presently
ungder going computer training at  SRVC Cochin .

Could you please tell, for getting  updates on Bank and other  Central
government job openings  , where we need to register.

Is there any mailing list for the same?
I came to know, there is some SMS and E mail alerts from Eye way and NFB side,
can anyone please tell how to get register with these facilities.
Expecting your favourable response.

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Vidya Sivadasan,
SRCVC Cochin

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Re: [AI] online recharge

[Vidya Sivadasan]

Hi sir,
Please check with,
www.paytm.com, or sulekha .com

Regards,
Vidya
On 6/21/13, Aashutosh pandey cuteaashutos...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good evening to all
 i want to know an accessible website to fill my prepayd acount with
 devidcard
 thanking u in advance

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 Thanks with best regards
 Aashutosh Pandey
 life is unpredictable- when you have standards people call it
 attitude, when you are simple people try to cheat you, and when you
 need love it's the best time for people to play

 Mob:08933845544
 Skype:aashutoshpandey1

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[AI] Need help configuring my rediffmail account in Outlook Express

[Vidya Jogi]

Hello all, 

Could anyone please guide me step by step on how I could configure my 
rediffmail account in Outlook Express. How different is it from configuring 
gmail?

Thanks in advance. 

Vidya Jogi
Phone: 7303448295

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Above all low delay,
Where nothing earthly bounds her fli
Nor shadow dims her way.

   - Thomas Moore, Oh That I had Wings

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[AI] Need help navigating through excel with JAWS

[Vidya Jogi]

Dear All,

Here is wishing you all the happiness and prosperity that 2013 can bring.

I am working with excel 2007 and wish to learn how i can get jaws to speak the 
column and row headings as i navigate through cells in an excel sheet. I was 
under the impression that i could activate the jaws verbocity dialogue using 
the keystroke insert V and adjust settings there. But, this isnt working. I am 
using jaws 13. 

Looking forward to your guidance. 

Thanks and regards,

Vidya Jogi
Phone: 7303448295

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[AI] Looking for home tuitor to teach a blind man at Mulund

[Vidya]

Dear Friends,
an elderly advocate has recently suffered almost total loss of vision. 
In order to regain his confidence and get back to his practice, he is on the 
look out for a tuitor who would come to his house at Mulund and educate him 
about screen readers and also provide basic computer training.
Remuneration to the tutor will be provided accordingly.
Those interested may please get in touch with me off the list.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Sincerely,
vidya (payal) Jogi
cell phone: 7303448295


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Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 57, Issue 371

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Required information about English medium schoolfor
  theblind. (Srinivasu Chakravarthula)
   2. Hello (Sachit Kumar Sahrawat)
   3. Re: Tips to save the battery of Samsung n150 netbook needed.
  (Sohan)
   4. Re: AKASH Tablet (Sinoj)
   5. Re: Introduction (Vikas Kapoor)
   6. Re: Tips to save the battery of Samsung n150 netbook needed.
  (Vamshi. G)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:02:18 +0530
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula li...@srinivasu.org
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium schoolfor
theblind.
Message-ID: 000101cc8d81$38a53330$a9ef9990$@org
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

Vamshi -
Yes, Devnar School for the Blind, Hyderabad is an English medium school.

Best,
-Vasu

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:31 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium schoolfor
theblind.

Is Devnar school for the blind at Hyderabad an English medium school?
I know a school at Venkatagiri in Andhra Pradesh which is an English
medium inclusive school.


On 10/18/11, Praful Vyas prafulnv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, it is badly need to start this type of school.
 Praful Vyas.
 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:22 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium schoolfor
 theblind.


 There are hardly any.
 One at Chennai, one at Bangalore and of course, one in Gujarat which AI
 friends have said.
 However, it is the need of the hour to have at least primary English
 school with high standards for blind and then integrate them in
mainstream

 English medium schools.
 We, at Nagpur are also trying to begin one...


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of balondhe
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:40 AM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for
 theblind.

 Please give me the list english medium school for the blind in Gujrat. I
 want to visit these school to study the syllabus, facilities,
difficulties
 of the blind students and staff and so on.
 - Original Message -
 From: Praful Vyas prafulnv...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Required information about English medium school for
 theblind.


I also want to start a medium english blind school. It is simple. Only
qualified staff to be appointed.

 With warm regards,
 Praful Vyas,
 Hon. Secretary,
 Andhjan Kalyan Trust,
 Amba wadi, Junagadh road,
 Dhoraji 360410, Dist. Rajkot, Gujarat, India.
 Mobile : +919428261878
 - Original Message -
 From: balondhe balon...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:30 AM
 Subject: [AI] Required information about English medium school for the
 blind.


 Dear Friends,
 I wish to collect information regarding the English Medium Schools for
 the blind. We are planning to start an English medium school for the
 blind at Nasik. Therefore, I wish to visit such kind of schools. Please
 provide me address, contact no., email id etc. to contact them
directly.
 Your response and guidance is highly solicited.
 Regards.
 Balasaheb Londhe
 PGT English
 Kendriya Vidyalaya no. 1 Devlali,
 Near Devi Mandir,
 Rest Camp Road,
 Devlali Camp,
 Nasik-422401
 Maharashtra
 Mobile: 9158087690
 Email: balon...@gmail.com
 Skype Id: balondhe
 Register for 

Re: [AI] English!

[Vidya]

Well, if we want to live in the same world as the sighted people do, we will 
have to get used to shorthands and sms type of language in our mails. With 
cell phones having the e-mail facility these days, more of such language 
will be used. It is up to the listers if they want to make their exclusive 
zones for the screen reader users or get used to abbreviated time saving 
language.
- Original Message - 
From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Yes, I aggree with this important point that if we have spelling checker
facility, why don't we use of it?
But, man can do wrong and man can also correct himself. Therefore, if we
find, someone does any such mistake, we may request him or her personally to
rewrite his or her views again.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Hi friends,

It is not about correct or wrong language.  I use Jaws to read my mail.  If
the writer uses wrong spellings,  I will find it difficult to know what is
being written.  For example: if the  word something is spelt as smthgn,
where would it lead us. Besides if the mail has a whole lot of such
spellings, then one would go crazy. Spell check facility is available. why
don't we care to use it?

Regards,

George



- Original Message - 
From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


It is correct that each language should be improved specially English, if we
wish to become a part of international community.
But, this is not mean to discourage any person for expressing his or her
views.
I don't know! why we usually adopt this tendency, if someone speaks hindi
very wrong, we accept that speaking pleasantly and if someone speak wrong
english, we object. I think, this is not fare.
Today, anyone can improve any language, if his or her circumstances will
allow for it.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: [AI] English!


Hi All,

While this group is a great  avenue for us to share our views, news and
information on issues of our rights, technology and so on. Let us also make
use of this platform to improve our English writing skills. With due respect
to all, I have seen postings on this group where the spellings, grammar are
terrible. Such messages become very difficult to read and comprehend. In
fact the reading of such messages by Jaws drives one crazy. Please, let us
endeavour to write well so that reading becomes a pleasure.

The intent is not to hurt, but to encourage.

Best regards,

George


- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh singh akhileshsingh.step...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway facility for physically challenged


helo sir,

yesi'm totally agree with yu sir, it happens.
w need to do somethng for this. evrybody fghts for the sets nd disable
people persons become the wictims.

regards
akhilesh

On 8/20/09, Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com wrote:

This is very controversial because First of all, noTT is appointed to
check
the ticket in those type of special coaches for disabled passengers.
Secondly, at very outset, these special coaches were declared General
coach
for Disabled passengers and mostly those have been used by policemen and
other normal passengers after making outside payment to railway staff
specially in western and northern railways.
Thirdly, Quota of two births have been given for all disabled passengers
with attendant in all trains in general sleeper coaches, now which are
wrongly being transferred in to these special general coaches for disabled
passengers and in where, actually reserved births have not been given to
concerned passengers because general disabled passengers suppose this
coach
as a general coach for disabled passengers and even railway staff have
same
approach in this regard as some diseased friends told me about these type
of
mishappenings.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message -
From: Krishnan Moothimoola moothimo...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:28 AM
Subject: [AI] railway facility for physically challenged




Date:20/08/2009 URL:
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/08/20/stories/2009082054680400.htm

Back

Kerala - Thiruvananthapuram

Rail facilities for the physically challenged



Staff Reporter







THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: The Southern Railway has commenced making available
special accommodation for the physically challenged commuters in brake van
coaches next to guard's cabin in 

Re: [AI] English!

[Vidya]

It is the matter of saving time. You cannot force writers of Braille to use 
grade 1 braille just because you don't know grade 2. Sms language functions 
on the same principle, as contracted braille, abbreviations and short hand 
do.


If people will like to write it, they will write it, where they can. One 
does not write e-mails in the same vein as one writes exams. You cannot, 
whereas a teacher can, penalize for writing the following:


Ok thnk u.

RGds
- Original Message - 
From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


I completely reject the excuse given in the mail below, tomorrow you'll say
we should have the freedom to write the same abbreviated and totally useless
language in the exams so that we can write more and clarify our points.
There's no end to this kind of an argument!
Vikas Kapoor,
MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
- Original Message - 
From: Vidya joshvi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Well, if we want to live in the same world as the sighted people do, we will
have to get used to shorthands and sms type of language in our mails. With
cell phones having the e-mail facility these days, more of such language
will be used. It is up to the listers if they want to make their exclusive
zones for the screen reader users or get used to abbreviated time saving
language.
- Original Message - 
From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Yes, I aggree with this important point that if we have spelling checker
facility, why don't we use of it?
But, man can do wrong and man can also correct himself. Therefore, if we
find, someone does any such mistake, we may request him or her personally to
rewrite his or her views again.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Hi friends,

It is not about correct or wrong language.  I use Jaws to read my mail.  If
the writer uses wrong spellings,  I will find it difficult to know what is
being written.  For example: if the  word something is spelt as smthgn,
where would it lead us. Besides if the mail has a whole lot of such
spellings, then one would go crazy. Spell check facility is available. why
don't we care to use it?

Regards,

George



- Original Message - 
From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


It is correct that each language should be improved specially English, if we
wish to become a part of international community.
But, this is not mean to discourage any person for expressing his or her
views.
I don't know! why we usually adopt this tendency, if someone speaks hindi
very wrong, we accept that speaking pleasantly and if someone speak wrong
english, we object. I think, this is not fare.
Today, anyone can improve any language, if his or her circumstances will
allow for it.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: [AI] English!


Hi All,

While this group is a great  avenue for us to share our views, news and
information on issues of our rights, technology and so on. Let us also make
use of this platform to improve our English writing skills. With due respect
to all, I have seen postings on this group where the spellings, grammar are
terrible. Such messages become very difficult to read and comprehend. In
fact the reading of such messages by Jaws drives one crazy. Please, let us
endeavour to write well so that reading becomes a pleasure.

The intent is not to hurt, but to encourage.

Best regards,

George


- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh singh akhileshsingh.step...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway facility for physically challenged


helo sir,

yesi'm totally agree with yu sir, it happens.
w need to do somethng for this. evrybody fghts for the sets nd disable
people persons become the wictims.

regards
akhilesh

On 8/20/09, Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com wrote:

This is very controversial because First of all, noTT is appointed to
check
the ticket in those type of special coaches for disabled passengers.
Secondly, at very outset, these special coaches were declared General
coach
for Disabled passengers and mostly those have been used by policemen and
other normal passengers after making outside payment to railway staff
specially in western and northern railways.
Thirdly, Quota of two births have been given for all

Re: [AI] English!

[Vidya]

You said:

Sorry, you cannot compare the Braille grading system with that SMS style of
writing.

And I say, surely you can. The following arguments were not well thought 
through or you did not have anything to substantiate them.


1. The Braille Grading method has evolved over the time and is universally
recognised,


SMS language too has evolved over time and has been universally recognized 
by its users. Braille took around 100 years to be universally recognized and 
even against Braille there were puritans who argued in favor of the tactile 
form of the print alphabet. Just like SMS style language, Braille too is 
optional. You can study without knowing Braille even if you are blind. But 
that does not diminish Braille, nor the SMS style language, as a viable 
alternative. Nobody should force me to use print if I prefer Braille. Same 
about the SMS style language. Again Exams are a separate matter. For many 
exams neither Braille nor SMS style language is allowed.



2. It is based on certain rules and principles,


SMS language too is based on them. You use no vowels and if a word can be 
expressed with a single letter, it is used.



3. It developed out of some specific requirements,

SMS language too developed out of it. It is not easy to type messages on 
cell phones. It is very time consuming. Most of the service providers 
restrict the number of characters in a text message to a limit. Now popular 
service Twitter too restricts the number of characters. And many of us use 
cell phones to read/compose e-mails. All these are the specific 
requirements that justify the use of SMS style language.



4. And yes, one would write what he/she has to and certain people cannot be
convinced, it is only up to the others how important something is for them.

I think likewise, I do not disagree here.



- Original Message - 
From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com

To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Sorry, you cannot compare the Braille grading system with that SMS style of
writing.
1. The Braille Grading method has evolved over the time and is universally
recognised,
2. It is based on certain rules and principles,
3. It developed out of some specific requirements,
4. And yes, one would write what he/she has to and certain people cannot be
convinced, it is only up to the others how important something is for them.
Vikas Kapoor,
MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
- Original Message - 
From: Vidya joshvi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


It is the matter of saving time. You cannot force writers of Braille to use
grade 1 braille just because you don't know grade 2. Sms language functions
on the same principle, as contracted braille, abbreviations and short hand
do.

If people will like to write it, they will write it, where they can. One
does not write e-mails in the same vein as one writes exams. You cannot,
whereas a teacher can, penalize for writing the following:

Ok thnk u.

RGds
- Original Message - 
From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


I completely reject the excuse given in the mail below, tomorrow you'll say
we should have the freedom to write the same abbreviated and totally useless
language in the exams so that we can write more and clarify our points.
There's no end to this kind of an argument!
Vikas Kapoor,
MSN Id:dl_vi...@hotmail.com, YahooSkype Id: dl_vikas,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
- Original Message - 
From: Vidya joshvi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Well, if we want to live in the same world as the sighted people do, we will
have to get used to shorthands and sms type of language in our mails. With
cell phones having the e-mail facility these days, more of such language
will be used. It is up to the listers if they want to make their exclusive
zones for the screen reader users or get used to abbreviated time saving
language.
- Original Message - 
From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:23 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Yes, I aggree with this important point that if we have spelling checker
facility, why don't we use of it?
But, man can do wrong and man can also correct himself. Therefore, if we
find, someone does any such mistake, we may request him or her personally to
rewrite his or her views again.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


Hi friends,

It is not about correct or wrong language.  I use Jaws to read my mail

Re: [AI] English!

[Vidya]

I hope the moderator considers it off topic and stops any discussion on this 
topic. The other suggestion that can make this topic acceptable on the list 
will be to make a mention of good or correct english in the list rules.



- Original Message - 
From: Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] English!


It is correct that each language should be improved specially English, if we
wish to become a part of international community.
But, this is not mean to discourage any person for expressing his or her
views.
I don't know! why we usually adopt this tendency, if someone speaks hindi
very wrong, we accept that speaking pleasantly and if someone speak wrong
english, we object. I think, this is not fare.
Today, anyone can improve any language, if his or her circumstances will
allow for it.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:24 PM
Subject: [AI] English!


Hi All,

While this group is a great  avenue for us to share our views, news and
information on issues of our rights, technology and so on. Let us also make
use of this platform to improve our English writing skills. With due respect
to all, I have seen postings on this group where the spellings, grammar are
terrible. Such messages become very difficult to read and comprehend. In
fact the reading of such messages by Jaws drives one crazy. Please, let us
endeavour to write well so that reading becomes a pleasure.

The intent is not to hurt, but to encourage.

Best regards,

George


- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh singh akhileshsingh.step...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] railway facility for physically challenged


helo sir,

yesi'm totally agree with yu sir, it happens.
w need to do somethng for this. evrybody fghts for the sets nd disable
people persons become the wictims.

regards
akhilesh

On 8/20/09, Rakesh Kumar Gupta rkgd1...@gmail.com wrote:

This is very controversial because First of all, noTT is appointed to
check
the ticket in those type of special coaches for disabled passengers.
Secondly, at very outset, these special coaches were declared General
coach
for Disabled passengers and mostly those have been used by policemen and
other normal passengers after making outside payment to railway staff
specially in western and northern railways.
Thirdly, Quota of two births have been given for all disabled passengers
with attendant in all trains in general sleeper coaches, now which are
wrongly being transferred in to these special general coaches for disabled
passengers and in where, actually reserved births have not been given to
concerned passengers because general disabled passengers suppose this
coach
as a general coach for disabled passengers and even railway staff have
same
approach in this regard as some diseased friends told me about these type
of
mishappenings.
Regards,
Rakesh.
- Original Message -
From: Krishnan Moothimoola moothimo...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:28 AM
Subject: [AI] railway facility for physically challenged




Date:20/08/2009 URL:
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/08/20/stories/2009082054680400.htm

Back

Kerala - Thiruvananthapuram

Rail facilities for the physically challenged



Staff Reporter







THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: The Southern Railway has commenced making available
special accommodation for the physically challenged commuters in brake van
coaches next to guard's cabin in mail and express trains.

Four berths have been earmarked to facilitate the travel of physically
challenged persons accompanied by attendants in as many as 133 trains
running in the Southern Railway with effect from August, according to the
Southern Railway.

The Railway has said that the physically challenged persons can also make
reservation in the general quota. In the event of the reservation not
utilised or partially used, the vacant berths will be made open to the
unreserved physically challenged passengers coming in the last minute with
unreserved tickets. It will be kept unoccupied for the use of physically
challenged passengers joining en route in case the physically challenged
passenger does not turn up.








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Krishnan M. Moothimoola Phone: 04936215008. Mobile: 919495547984. Email:
moothimo...@gmail.com
Home address: Ushas Near GHSS Meenangadi,Post Meenangadi, Wynad, Kerala,
India. Pin. 673591.


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Re: [AI] T-20 Audio cCommentary

[Vidya]

Hi sir.

Do you have to be a reliance subscriber to avail this service? I couldn't 
find any link that talked about audio commentary.


Thanks

- Original Message - 
From: Ketan Kothari muktake...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:36 AM
Subject: [AI] T-20 Audio cCommentary



Friends,

The audio commentary of t-20 is available online and the quality is 
excellent.  It has to be purchased from http://myservices.relianceada.com 
and the entire package costs Rs.100/-.  This is for those who are 
interested.  I have purchased the package.



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Re: [AI] mac products

[Vidya]

Once you learn the key board short cuts, you will be able to access the 
basic programs like, Safari (the internet browser) word processor etc. I 
doubt you can perform complex task like coding as you would do with Jaws. I 
have tried only the basic functions, and it works well.


- Original Message - 
From: shikher goyal shikag...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] mac products


heii.

as you described, in leapord, after settings it can access easily as jaws.
Is it same in tiger OS of MAC notebooks. Have you tested it?
will its inbuild screen reader work as we do work in jaws?
regards
shikher

On 3/26/09, Vidya joshvi...@gmail.com wrote:

I have changed the subject line to reflect the true contents of this mail.

May be mockery is too strong a word for a company that seems to be making 
a

serious effort towards accessibility. They claim their computers come with
screen readers, but they never say they will be better, worse or at par 
with

Jaws or other screen readers.
Their Leopard comes with a screen reader that
makes all the mac programs accessible. After the correct settings, Leopard
is as good as Jaws as far as basic user functions are concerned. Where as
the good screen readers cost you around $1000, the entire operating 
system
for mac costs you around $150. Their products are little more expensive 
than
many other PC products, but the performance and durability compensates 
that

downside.

But for the welfare system in the US and Europe, and piracy, Jaws wouldn't
be what it is now. People wanting to use screen readers would look for
cheaper alternative, like Leopard. And with the proper feedback, Mac 
screen

reader would become more user friendly.

This is no endorsement for any product, but just an alternative take on 
mac

computers.


Thanks
- Original Message -
From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] accessibility for iPhones


That's actually the problem with Mac products. They make a mockery of
accessibility! they claim that their laptops are equipped with a screen
reader, but it is in no way close to JAWS or Windows eyes.

Vetri.

- Original Message -
From: ruchir falodiya ruchir.falod...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:38 PM
Subject: [AI] accessibility for iPhones


 iHear Dialer

iHear Dialer allows you to dial phone numbers without looking at the
keypad. As you move your hand around on the keypad, the dialer will
tell you what
number your finger is on and when you want that number, just release
your finger!

It was created with blind and visually impaired users in mind, but
it’s also great for anyone to dial a number without looking.

 iHear Dialer allows you to:
- Dial phone numbers without looking at the keypad
- Dial your last 6 previous numbers (History tab)
- Choose between 2 voices (Alex  Jules)
- Display or remove hyphens as you dial numbers
- Use it anytime, anywhere...no connections required. 

although this, is no where near to a screen reader for smart phones,
still, accessibility is provided up to some extent.

please download the application or view more information at.

http://www.kayzeesolutions.com/products-iHearDialer.html

regards,

ruchir.

--
As long as forever,
I will stay by your side,
I'll be your companion,
Your friend and your guide!!!

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[AI] mac products

[Vidya]

I have changed the subject line to reflect the true contents of this mail.

May be mockery is too strong a word for a company that seems to be making a
serious effort towards accessibility. They claim their computers come with
screen readers, but they never say they will be better, worse or at par with
Jaws or other screen readers.
Their Leopard comes with a screen reader that
makes all the mac programs accessible. After the correct settings, Leopard
is as good as Jaws as far as basic user functions are concerned. Where as
the good screen readers cost you around $1000, the entire operating system
for mac costs you around $150. Their products are little more expensive than
many other PC products, but the performance and durability compensates that
downside.

But for the welfare system in the US and Europe, and piracy, Jaws wouldn't 
be what it is now. People wanting to use screen readers would look for 
cheaper alternative, like Leopard. And with the proper feedback, Mac screen 
reader would become more user friendly.


This is no endorsement for any product, but just an alternative take on mac 
computers.



Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam vadhimoo...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] accessibility for iPhones


That's actually the problem with Mac products. They make a mockery of
accessibility! they claim that their laptops are equipped with a screen
reader, but it is in no way close to JAWS or Windows eyes.

Vetri.

- Original Message - 
From: ruchir falodiya ruchir.falod...@gmail.com

To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:38 PM
Subject: [AI] accessibility for iPhones


 iHear Dialer

iHear Dialer allows you to dial phone numbers without looking at the
keypad. As you move your hand around on the keypad, the dialer will
tell you what
number your finger is on and when you want that number, just release
your finger!

It was created with blind and visually impaired users in mind, but
it’s also great for anyone to dial a number without looking.

iHear Dialer allows you to:
- Dial phone numbers without looking at the keypad
- Dial your last 6 previous numbers (History tab)
- Choose between 2 voices (Alex  Jules)
- Display or remove hyphens as you dial numbers
- Use it anytime, anywhere...no connections required. 

although this, is no where near to a screen reader for smart phones,
still, accessibility is provided up to some extent.

please download the application or view more information at.

http://www.kayzeesolutions.com/products-iHearDialer.html

regards,

ruchir.

--
As long as forever,
I will stay by your side,
I'll be your companion,
Your friend and your guide!!!

www.ruchir89.wordpress.com



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Re: [AI] query from thahir

[Vidya]

Okay Moderator.
The hard decisions need to be taken sometimes. I believe it is members 
privillege to express their opinions about what can be accepted on the list 
and what not. But still it is not their right. If it becomes free for all 
giving their interpretations, there will be a huge commotion and needless 
traffick on the list. So we have a moderator to take a final decision. Now 
that the decision has been taken and widely endorsed by the list members, 
why do we have these mails? How about putting the repeat offenders on a 
moderated status? It is not easy but perhaps mandatory for the peace. The 
welcome message we got at the time of joining confirmed that this list was 
more for information and problem solving, rather than expressing and 
forcingg opinions. So shouldn't we consider the messages that threaten, 
sulk, fight, shout about the moderator's decision, off topic? If so, isn't 
it proper to put such members on moderated status?



- Original Message - 
From: Rajesh Parakh rajeshparak...@yahoo.co.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir



Dear Rajesh,
you should not be provoked to unsubscribe from the list after reading such
comments from champions of Indian culture. this list requires your 
valuable
contribution. in my thinking every person loving nature and its beauty 
will
never run away from sex and there's nothing wrong in talking about sex 
with

like minded friends.
regards,
rajesh parakh.
- Original Message - 
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir



Dear Access India Moderator
If this has come to it, and the people like Respected Shadab Hussein have
impudence to write like this, then please accept my heartfelt apologies
and do unsubscribe my humble self from the list.
I am publicly requesting the unsubscription, not because I do not know 
the

procedure to do so on my own, but I want all to know that this list has
been a wonderful home to me, but I have fallen below minimum standards
desired by it and hence ought to be dispensed with without any mercy.
I think I have taken the liberty of thought and expression well within 
the

limits of public morality and all other grounds laid down by our
constitution, but if so-called champions of Indian culture feel that I am
an immature and unnecessary piece of clay, then let it be so.
All said and done, I strongly feel that unsubscription of some of our
respected members for continuing to raise forbidden queries, and
continuance of others despite their uncivilized and provoking language,
is wrong.
Hope this group of ours will discuss many useful topics in future and
will not listen to sex maniacs like me...


Rajesh Asudani
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab 
Husain

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir

Well sir,


Don't say things I haven't said to prove what you are saying is correct -
blind being under an obligation to be saintly or asexual. and I still
am at a loss to comprehend  as to why the visual inability of a person
should deprive him/her of all aspects of life. Better, focus on useful
topics.


I sincerely hope that  keeping the important time of members in mind and
respecting the moderator you won't respond to this. For God's sake, don't
allow me to be impatient.


Regards Shadab Husain

Easy tips of improving English at
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/

My contributions to the press
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-contributions-to-press.html#link

Many posts on one page
http://shadablucknow.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00updated-max=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00max-results=47


- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir


Well, responding to my point about   Indians shunning to describe even 
the

essentials, you were found to dwell on cultural issues, so you say.
So, may I construe your stand in this matter of superiority of Indian
culture over western to imply that such omissions are justified?
So curious!!!
And Shadab you have also wrote:
But the one thing I am certain of is that pornography, from the
standpoint
of psychology, is wrong - not to talk about need. Haven't you studied it
in
your course?
So, Psychology is far from a precise natural science as you seem to imply
by
demanding a clear statement about pornography being wrong.
Pornography may be harmful in some instances as it may encourage
irresponsible or nonconsensual sex, but more often than not, it serves as
bulwark against such activities by permitting a momentary ventilation to

Re: [AI] Talks 4 is finally here

[Vidya]

Also how much is the new license for for those who never used talks?

- Original Message - 
From: Mitra Jyothi mj.tblibr...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Talks 4 is finally here



Hello Sir,

Madhu madam wants to know that whether she can upgrade her phone which is
N-82 by talk 4 or not and what are the charges.
please let us know about it.

Thank You.
Mitra Jyothi



On 3/12/09, Dipendra Manocha dipendra.li...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello Friends

Many of us were waiting eagerly for release of talks 4. It is really 
worth

the wait! The version 4 is finally here!
Highlights:

for 3rd edition phones:
1. talks premium now has
Talks: screen reading software
Zooms: screen magnification software
DAISYTo Go: DAISY Player Software that makes you phone a very efficient 
and

fully featured wonderful portable daisy player.

All the above applications at the cost of  the normal premium edition
license of talks.

This upgrade is free for Any one who had purchased talks premium or
upgraded
to talks premium on or after November 13, 2007.

For others pay just Rs. 1700 and get the upgrade with all nice features.

One disappointment for 2nd edition phone holders. DAISY player is not 
going
to be available for 2nd edition phones. An upgrade will get you the 
license

to zooms and all other advance features.

The latest software will be available for download at 
www.saksham.orgafter

12 noon today on March 12th.


Detailed release notes are below:

TALKSZOOMS Version 4.00 - Release Notification
1.  Introduction
We proudly announce the release of the Nuance Accessibility Suite - 
Nuance
TALKS and Nuance ZOOMS - Version 4.00 for Series 60 2nd and 3rd Edition 
for

March 11th, 2009.

This version also includes the first release of Nuance Daisy2Go, our 
DAISY

audio+text book player. The player can be used on any phone that has a
license which is valid for TALKSZOOMS or TALKS Premium Edition 4.00.

Version 4 is a free upgrade for all Premium Edition licenses generated
after
November 13th, 2007.
2.  The new handsets
2.1.Changes to the list of supported phone models
The following handsets are newly supported (please see section 4 Known
Issues about some limitations):

.   Nokia 6650
.   Nokia E66
.   Nokia E71
.   Nokia N79
.   Nokia N85
.   Nokia N96

At the same time, any 1st Edition handsets are no longer supported (Nokia
36xx, Nokia 7650, N-Gage, N-Gage QD, Siemens SX1).
3.  What's New?
This section lists the improvements of TALKS 4.00 compared to the 
previous

version (3.60).
3.1.New audio system (S60 3rd Ed.)
We have completely revised the audio handling in TALKS. This is most
noticeable by the ability to use speech during a call on handsets running
S60 3rd Edition for all supported text-to-speech engines. With the 
previous

version of TALKS, the Nokia TTS had to be used during a call; and for S60
3rd Edition FP2, no speech during a call was possible. The new audio
handling appears to have some positive impact on performance on a number 
of

phones as well.
For S60 3rd Edition handsets, we have introduced two new speech settings,
which allow adjusting the base audio volume and initial response time, so
you can fine-tune speech playback for your phone, firmware version, etc.
3.2.Support for Quick Word (S60 3rd Ed.)
It is now possible to open Word documents, such as e mail attachments, 
and

read them in QuickWord. QuickWord is a part of QuickOffice, and its
view-only version is pre-installed on most handsets, while the full 
version

that allows editing text is pre-installed on the Nokia E Series handsets,
or
can be purchased otherwise.
TALKSZOOMS supports the view-only and full version of QuickWord 3.x, as
well as the full versions of newer releases (4.x and later, as
pre-installed
on FP2 phones). When using the full version, please make sure to switch 
to

edit mode to allow TALKS to read the content.
3.3.SIM-based licensing
The new release of TALKSZOOMS gives users more freedom by offering
SIM-based licensing. When TALKSZOOMS is registered to a SIM-card instead
of
being registered to a phone/IMEI, the user can move that SIM card from 
one

phone to the other, as long as the SIM license is valid for the TALKS
version installed to the new handset.
3.4.Configurable object recognition
TALKS assigns so-called roles to the objects it recognizes on the 
mobile

phone's display, and composes speech output from the text and roles of
these
objects. In numerous cases, in particular when a 3rd-party application 
was
used, TALKS has not been able to determine all required roles correctly; 
in

other cases, the user did not like to hear certain announcements.
Now, the user can define the role of an object using the Object Viewer, 
and

thus create special speech output for each application.
Furthermore, the Object Viewer can now be used for easier entry of
replacements into the dictionary, similar to 

Re: [AI] query from thahir

[Vidya]

I would not like to jump in to this controversy. Just a clarification that 
you should differentiate between pornographic material and scientific 
treatise on sex and related issues, such as KamaSutra. The below mail seem 
to be doing what so many fascist powers are trying to do: linking these two 
to oppose sex education in schools.
Pornography is more about like how X had sex with his daughter or his son or 
anybody and anything for that matter. The language used in porns is hardly 
used in schools and colleges.
- Original Message - 
From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir



a highly controversial question indeed.
as expected there are people with different views on the matter. I believe
the question as such does come broadly under issues of accessibility.
I can understand the arguements against this on the basis of too much of
things for the list to handil and therefor the possibility of losing 
focus.

but culture, Indian culture, well that is all together a different issue.
ones morality, values are all shaped in the context in which one is 
brought
up. that is different for different people. but the moment one says that 
his

or her values are higher than that of some one else, then that is big
trouble. in fact, that is the language of fascism. I certainly don't think
access India is the forum for moral policing by any means. anybody have 
the

freedom to access or not access pornographic materials, but I believe any
questions on the matter should not be restricted on the basis of a culture
based arguement, as that might end up supporting those elemends in the
society, who are against tolerence and inclusivity. olso one must remember
in this context, 'Kamasutra' was not authered by an American or a 
Europian,

but by Vatsyayana, the great Indian sage.
so on the basis of focus OK, but please, not that cultural thing.


On 3/13/09, harish har...@accessindia.org.in wrote:


Hi all
Yes, there are 2 groups on yahoogroups which may allow discussion of
romance and sexuality.

Regarding outright porn talk, you may have to seek clarification from the
respective moderator.
The 2 lists which I am  refering are:
1 dreamromance
2 sayeverything

There would be more lists internationally and one can make a search on
Yahoogroups orat google.
.


I have followed the points from other members both for and against.

However, I am not convinced why should AccessIndia take it up when there
are other active groups catering to this requirement or so called need.

Delibrate folks, rationally and don't get personal. I opened this thread
for healthy discussion and not to settle scores.

Harish

- Original Message - From: mahendra gal...@chello.at
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir


i am glad, we can talk on this matter, i fully support Rajesh's view.
Harish are there such email groups? if yes, please Harish or members 
share

them.
At 07:54 AM 3/13/2009, you wrote:


Dear Rajesh and others

Do appreciate the points raised, However, let us have the group focused
and on rails.

Besides there are groups especially catering this requirement. So, let 
us

not tred on their shoes.

I am opening the thread for inputs from all quarters.

Harish.

Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:06 +0530
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] query from thahir
Well, I think being a member of this group for so many years, I do have 
a

certain right to say something on this matter, despite the closure of
threat.
I think the question does relate to accessibility and internet for
visually impaired, and as such, may be legitimately construed to be 
within

bounds of the group, but for the fact that pornography or any sexually
colored material is illegal in India and so the group may not discuss
anything illegal.
However, please remember that law does change with mores of society and
what is a taboo today is a common sense of tomorrow.
Moreover, binding accessibility to legality is unfair, me thinks.
Sight does not regard the bounds of legality or otherwise.
Life with its joys and enchantments ought to be equally available to 
all,

is the hallmark of accessibility.
And Shadab, the ones whom you have, without any moderatorial
jurisdiction, publicly termed raunchy, are the respected members of
community, working and teaching in reputed institutions.
A person does not become antisocial merely by recognizing inherent 
needs

of all human kind.
rather it is undu suppression and repression of the same which renders
humans brute many a times.
Only objection to the query in the message is manifest illegality of 
the
pornography in India, but the effort about universality of 
accessibility is

commendable.
On this note, I  would like to share that the movie Dev D is said to 
have

bypassed censors by substituting sexually explicit 

Re: [AI] Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and Evolvingdirections'

[Vidya]

Thank you for letting me know this. I never thought there is a Equal opp office 
run by the government of Inddia. I am not sure of ghai but Dr. Sethi is a 
professor and no activist. When I inquired about the kind of courses she 
offers, nothing was about disabilities. She is not an activist like Mr. Rungta 
is, or Ms. Mohit is. 

I solicit no further response on this thread. No personal mail please.
I have made my point that the name chosen for this conference is not 
appropriate. and it won't help the matters continuing a discussion with people 
who are invested in it. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mahesh Panicker 
  To: joshvi...@gmail.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] 
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and 
Evolvingdirections'


  well Vidya, 
  my intention here is not argueout my time. I don't think it is good to use 
the list platform for that. so I am writing directly to you. 

  when Annavaram originaly refered to the confrence to first of its kind, he 
was talking about such a thing happening at the academic level, on the platform 
of one of the countrie's prime higher educational institutions. I did make it 
clear the point after that as well. 
  the only visual impairment related session as such was the last, in all other 
sessions, disability in general was deliberated upon. 
  I don't know if you have heard of Prof. Navneet Sethi, and Dr. Anita Gai. 
  and one last thing, the Equal Opportunities Office of JNU is a completely 
independent body, having nothing to do with the Equal Opportunities Office of 
government of India. 
  hope this helps. 
   
  On 3/3/09, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: 
Good morning Geetha and all

Of course, any productivity is better than none, and all of us must strive 
for it.

However, I think here we are confusing disability status and disability 
benefits as they are available in countries like USA or Canada.
It is surely warranted to take employed blind persons off the roles of 
social security in those countries, more so as government itself is providing 
employment accessibility and all.

However, in our country, such disability benefits are out of question, and 
out of question is government itself providing accessible employment to all 
employable.

I think there, the term disability is synonymous with unemployability. If 
so, blind do surely need to be out of its purview.
However, as I said, disability/inability has to be conceptualized 
contextually, and so, the status of a person as a person with a disability 
generally and in specific contexts has to be given due regard in those 
countries as well.
Further, legally, do they take away protections by way of disability 
because a person is employable or is actually employed?
These and some other are the points to be pondered over.
Here, of course, situation is different as I said.
Still, for the sake of argument, let us assume that government has made all 
the persons with blindness employed in an accessible way!
Now, if you take away those persons out of the fold of persons with 
disabilities in India, and deny any concessions in transport income tax etc.., 
Do you think it is justified?
Clearly not, because as I have already said, An impairment transformed 
into inability has an all pervading impact on a persons life, and its reverse 
transformation into a neutral condition is only partial at best, and does not 
deliver such a person entirely from hardships.
Moreover, taking off persons out of the purview of persons with 
disabilities legally, because of their employed status, has far reaching 
consequences.

Regards

Rajesh

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Geetha Shamanna
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] 
Two-dayNationalConferenceon'DisabilityandDisenchantment:NewChallenges and 
Evolvingdirections'

Hi Rajesh and all,

It must be said that provision of door-to-door transportation and access
technology funding by the state eliminates the two major hurdles that
prevent blind people from becoming employable. Jargon apart (whether
blindness is a disability or a handicap is not of much practical
significance), considering that the Alberta Government has taken steps to
help blind people overcome these two limitations, don't you think its
decision to scrap disability benefits is a step in the right direction? If
the government takes the responsibility of finding jobs with appropriate
accommodation for accessibility for all its blind residents of employable
age upon itself, then where is the problem?

Your point about the ability of a blind person to achieve 100% independent
productivity is valid to a large extent

Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'

[Vidya]

I know it is just a guess, and not an inteligent one, that this the first in 
the series. You just need to join a listserve related to disability studies 
to know how much money is being thrown around throughout the world, 
including India, in the name of disability related conferences.
Yes you are right that blind are disabled but you shouldn't call your 
conference about India, if all your speakers are from U.P. It is 
presumptuous to think that people from U.P. can represent people from North 
East, South and East of India equally. I am just trying to point towards the 
irony: we do not like the fact that people talk about us without us. We are 
socially excluded. But when it comes to ourselves, we try to do the same, 
speak about them without them. All blind may be disabled, but not all 
disabled are blind. If you call a conference for disabled give 
representation to loco-motor, deaf and dumb, Mentally challenged etc. 
otherwise it is intelectual deceit or bankruptcy to speak about someone 
without their representation.



- Original Message - 
From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference 
on'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'




Hello Vidya

Isn't blindness a disablility? I guess, this is a first conference in a 
series of it. Maybe in the future, they shall have greater representation 
from other disabilities. In any case they too should be getting a right 
place in terms of accomodation at the univercities.


Finally, they too should take a lead to seek appropriate accomodation.

Harish
- Original Message - 
From: Vidya joshvi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 
'DisabilityandDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'



I think you guys should have used the term blindness rather than 
disability. I fail to see other disabilities being represented here.



- Original Message - 
From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability 
andDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'




Hi list.
we, JNU visually challenged forum did indeed wanted to give out the 
invite

earlier, but since it is a national seminar organized at the level of an
institution like JNU, it took us lot more time to put things in place.
hope you understand and appriciate thesituation. we at least those 
people

who are based in Delhi can make it to the seminar.
your participation is most valued.
with best regards.


On 2/28/09, Amit Bhatt misterbh...@gmail.com wrote:


Sounds good, it seems to be a great conference in order to focus on the 
new
challenges and explore some innovative ideas and directions in our 
education

in the Country.
Thank you for showing the huge guts of keeping open invitation for the
members to join the event. Only the thing is that it should have been
informed little earlier since many people would always like to be 
benefited
by such valuable workshops to be organized. Anyway its a good 
opportunity

and I shall endeavor to attend the program either of the days.

Warm regards,

Amit Bhatt

MIS Analyst come Reservation Incharge - Far Horizon Tours Pvt. Ltd. 
India

www.farhorizonindia.com
Ph-Off: +91-129-409-8022 { Fax: +91-129-409-8098

List Manager - SayEverything mailing group, an open discussion forum
dedicated to persons with disabilities
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/sayeverything/

Direct Cell: +91-986-820-1812
Skype: amitbhattindia
IM: champion_bh...@yahoo.co.in

A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player


- Original Message - From: Annavaram 
annavara...@hotmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:21 AM
Subject: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability and
Disenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'


  Hi Access-Indians,


I am happy to inform you all that equal opportunities office at JNU, 
and
JNU-Visually challenged forum are jointly organising a two-day 
National
Conference on 'disability and Disenchantment: New challenges and 
Evolving
directions' on 2nd3rd march 2009 at Jawaharlal Nehru University 
Campus.


I wish to make a special request to all our friends at Delhi to
participate in our Conference on both the days and contribute to this
academic event which is going to be unique in Indian higher 
educational

circles. working visually-challenged friends at Delhi can write to our
organising team at jnuvis...@gmail.com to obtain a special delegation
invitation which they can use either to avail a special Casual leave 
or to

attend the conference on-duty-leave.

since the sessions in the conference run throughout the day from 9:30 
AM
to 5:00 PM, Lunch and the High

Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability andDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'

[Vidya]

I think you guys should have used the term blindness rather than 
disability. I fail to see other disabilities being represented here.



- Original Message - 
From: Mahesh Panicker maheshspanic...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability 
andDisenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'




Hi list.
we, JNU visually challenged forum did indeed wanted to give out the invite
earlier, but since it is a national seminar organized at the level of an
institution like JNU, it took us lot more time to put things in place.
hope you understand and appriciate thesituation. we at least those people
who are based in Delhi can make it to the seminar.
your participation is most valued.
with best regards.


On 2/28/09, Amit Bhatt misterbh...@gmail.com wrote:


Sounds good, it seems to be a great conference in order to focus on the 
new
challenges and explore some innovative ideas and directions in our 
education

in the Country.
Thank you for showing the huge guts of keeping open invitation for the
members to join the event. Only the thing is that it should have been
informed little earlier since many people would always like to be 
benefited

by such valuable workshops to be organized. Anyway its a good opportunity
and I shall endeavor to attend the program either of the days.

Warm regards,

Amit Bhatt

MIS Analyst come Reservation Incharge - Far Horizon Tours Pvt. Ltd. India
www.farhorizonindia.com
Ph-Off: +91-129-409-8022 { Fax: +91-129-409-8098

List Manager - SayEverything mailing group, an open discussion forum
dedicated to persons with disabilities
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/sayeverything/

Direct Cell: +91-986-820-1812
Skype: amitbhattindia
IM: champion_bh...@yahoo.co.in

A player that makes a team great is more valuable than a great player


- Original Message - From: Annavaram annavara...@hotmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:21 AM
Subject: [AI] Two-day National Conference on 'Disability and
Disenchantment:New Challenges and Evolving directions'


  Hi Access-Indians,


I am happy to inform you all that equal opportunities office at JNU, and
JNU-Visually challenged forum are jointly organising a two-day National
Conference on 'disability and Disenchantment: New challenges and 
Evolving

directions' on 2nd3rd march 2009 at Jawaharlal Nehru University Campus.

I wish to make a special request to all our friends at Delhi to
participate in our Conference on both the days and contribute to this
academic event which is going to be unique in Indian higher educational
circles. working visually-challenged friends at Delhi can write to our
organising team at jnuvis...@gmail.com to obtain a special delegation
invitation which they can use either to avail a special Casual leave or 
to

attend the conference on-duty-leave.

since the sessions in the conference run throughout the day from 9:30 AM
to 5:00 PM, Lunch and the High-Tea will be taken-care by the University.

for the root map of our University, you can visit http://www.jnu.ac.in 
or

write to us at jnuvis...@gmail.com for any query.

I feel more than happy to further inform you that some of our
high-profiled Access-Indians, Including our Moderator, are going to make
focused presentations in our Conference.

you may therefore please go through the complete schedule pasted below 
and

find out for yourself!

The National Conference on Disability and Disenchantment: New challenges
and Evolving directions



Schedule



An event first of its kind in Indian academic circles, the conference 
will
have a multifaceted participation of Renowned Academicians, Young 
scholars,

Administrators and Activists working in the field of disability. Spread
across two-days (2nd3rd March), it is divided into five thematic 
sessions

 besides a brief formal inaugural ceremony and the concluding panel
discussion, the details of which are given below:



INAUGURAL SESSION

2nd March (9:30 AM to 11:15 AM) at SSS1 Auditorium JNU Campus.

Chief Guest: Sri; Mani Shankar Aiyyar (Hon.ble Union minister of 
Panchayat

raj and youth affairs, Government of India.)

Key note Speaker: Prof. Sukh Dev-Singh Torat (chairperson, University
Grants Commission.)

Officiating Chair: Prof. B.B. Bhattacharya (Vice-chancellor, JNU.)



DISABILITY, PUBLIC POLICY AND LAW

2nd March (11:30 AM to 1:00 PM) at SSS1 Committee Room JNU Campus.

Officiating Chair: Justice Rajendra Babu (National Human Rights 
Commission

India)

Titles and Presenters

1) Global Trends and transformation: International Laws on Disability 
with
special reference to UN-Convention on Persons with disabilities 
Neredimalli

Annavaram, Center for the Study of Social systems, School of Social
Sciences, JNU;

2) The Enactment and Implementation of Persons with Disabilities (Equal
Opportunities, Protection of rights and Full-participation) Act 1995 and 
a
way 

Re: [AI] important information about the website please read

[Vidya]

Neither do I. I am not even sure if this thread is of any interest to this 
list. If it is, the list should know the site information and the background 
for this thread. Otherwise the thread should be taken off list.


- Original Message - 
From: Vedprakash Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] important information about the website please read


 it is really unfortunate. but I could not understand what went wrong with
 the site.
 - Original Message - 
 From: ashish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 4:25 PM
 Subject: [AI] important information about the website please read


 hello friends, I have made that site for the community not for me, and I
 know it was helping many people. many friends helped me in that and  I am
 thankful to them but today's incident has hurt me. if some one has done
 any work for the site I always told him or her to write their name. at 
 the
 same time I do not want someone else to take credit for my hard work.
 today the site has 1 GB space, it has many useful tips  articles and
 search engines, it took a lot of my time and effort to create it. anyone
 can create their website with their content and make it useful for the
 community but the credit should be given to the real person. in view of
 recent development the site will be down until further information, I was
 having many new ideas to expand it like teaching programming etc but
 unfortunately it has to be postponed now, but I will try to create 
 another
 website  with more content very soon. friends people helping me had 
 access
 to all the data of my website so another website can be created using all
 that content. take care, regards, ashish

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Re: [AI] Another good news

[Vidya]

Hi. Where can one find the details of their achievements. For those who know 
these respective individuals only through the list, a detailed information 
as to what they have done in their respective fields will be beneficial.

- Original Message - 
From: sakinadhariwala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sameer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Another good news


 Hello friends my heartiest congratulations to all of you.
 Sakina.
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 Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:32 AM
 Subject: [AI] Another good news




 Dear Friends,

 The International Association of Educators for World Peace, a US-based 
 NGO
 is felicitating six of our friends on Saturday for achievements in their
 respective fields inspite of their physical disability.

 Mr. Nagraj More, Mr. K. Ramkrishna, Mr. Ashish Rohtagi, Ms. Mamta
 Chandiramani, Ms. Aparna Agarwal  Ms. Nikita Vaid are the persons being
 felicitated.

 Wishing the most heartfelt congratulations to all our six friends.



 Regards

 Sameer Latey
 Mumbai, India



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Re: [AI] problum facing by students of national association for theblind Delhi//

[Vidya]

Now isn't it wrong on the part of the management to suddenly decide to throw 
out these students? Why can't you just say that the step taken by the 
management is wrong? Are you saying that just because the management has let 
these students stay for 10 years, they have a right to throw them out 
without finishing their schooling and without making an alternative 
arrangement for them?
Sadly sir, these managements, even when working for charity are bound by 
certain rules of the land. When they let them stay in the hostel premises, 
they did not do any favor to the students. The management asks for financial 
support in the name of these students from various sources. So these 
students must be accommodated. And the burden of making arrangements for 
them lies with the administration. When I consulted an ex-access Indian, I 
was told the access India is an elitist list so these students may not get 
much support from the list. Moreover, these students can be correctly 
dismissed as people raising off topic issues. I have not much to say on 
that.

If the facts are as they were put in Thakur's mail, may be these students 
should look for support from free legal aid cell at Patiyala House and Delhi 
High Court if nothing else works. The judiciary should be the last resort. 
The second last should be the National Human Rights commission.


- Original Message - 
From: SC Vashishth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] problum facing by students of national association for 
theblind Delhi//


 The point raised by the petitioners regarding the accommodation seems to 
 be
 valid, however, putting management in the opposite box may not be right
 especially when these students have been staying there for a long time and
 have done their studies with support of the NAB Delhi management.

 I feel the Government has an important role to play here. In Delhi we have
 severe crunch for hostels for the blind young adults - Girls
 specially. Though there is a hostel in DU for boys, there exists none for
 girls and we have seen in the recent past, how these hapless girls face
 exploitation and physical abuse in order to continue their studies in
 privately run hostels.

 Its high time that the Government of Delhi provides for sufficient hostels
 for Blind Girls and Boys. Regarding circumstances in which management of 
 NAB
 Delhi is working, i would not know much, hence no comments.
 regards
 SC Vashishth


 On 6/25/08, akhil thakur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hellow friends,
We are the hostellers of national association for the blind 
 studding
 in
 11th and 12th standard suffering from the harassment by management of
 our hostel.
 They are not providing us hostel for our further studies from the first 
 of
 July
 With a reason that they do not have enough space in the hostel and
 they have to give opportunity to small children  they have admission
 brasher ect.
 So they have made a rule according to witch they will not provide hostel
 to the bois after 10th standard. And they have committed that, they
 provide other facilities related to studies.
 But from the last year they are not paying fee for some hostellers of
 class above 10th, so this is not ensure that, they will help us in
 concern of studies after removing us from the hostel.

 But this is not a solution, most of the students among us, reside out
 of Delhi and
 also economically week from there families
 If we escape out from the hostel we'll not able to continue our study.
 We are only 9 boys in class 11th and 12th and they don't have space for 
 us.

 Also according to law, this rule can not be implementing on us because we
 are
 pre-admitted students. The rule should be implemented for the newly
 admitted children.

 it is not true that, they do not have space
 there are aprox 5 rooms beside the three rooms of senior boys in witch
 peons and watchman's are residing with there families
 generally we 10 students reside in one room,
 For a moment if we considered that they do not have space,
 So they have to provide that 5 rooms to the students
 Witch are captured by watchman's, punes and there families.
 5 rooms means approximately 50  children can be admitted.
 According to the objectives of the association they have to give first
 profence
 to the students in such a case.

 another excuse to remove us, given by them is that,
 they have received a letter from government counsel
 according to witch they can't keep both girls and bois in the same
 premises.
 How much truth in it? We don't know.
 But in the premises, rooms of senior bois are separated from the girls
 hostel.
 This is also not a valid excuse.

 A Pease of plot in Dvarika is given to them in 2002 by DDA.
 And now they are telling us that, they will construct a building there 
 for
 bois hostel
 in the years from 2002 to 2007 they did not place a pease of brick 
 there,
 so how can they construct a building for 

Re: [AI] Braille watches are real ones

[Vidya]

It's strange that Titan would not announce this giant step on any of the 
media. Firms would jump to take credits for corporate social responsibility 
even without doing anything, but nothing from Titan despite this major step?

For all I know, Titan has done nothing of the sort. Now who is fooling whom 
is would be a thing to know. There may be a fake Titan, with altered 
spellings like tighten and they are selling watches imported from other 
countries as some of the countries sell specialized equipments at very 
subsidized rates.
Or second possibility is that your sources are not correct.

- Original Message - 
From: ashik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Access India accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: [AI] Braille watches are real ones


Dear Members,

 Two of my friends have purchased such watches and they are on their 
 wrists. One of them found it in the show-room in Vadodara, and another 
 found it in the show-room in Rajkot in Gujarat. The Rajkot wala friend got 
 it from the show-room near Trikon Baagh. They are in two shapes: round and 
 square. They haven't produced watches for women, unfortunately. Please 
 note that the watches will be available with the main dealer only, not 
 with the sub-dealers. There is not facility for alarm.
 Ashik Hirani
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Re: [AI] banking facilities to the visually challenged

[Vidya]

The cases of denial by banks I have heard are mostly not because someone is 
blind, but because one can't sign.
I know several blind persons with all those facilities only because they 
could sign. I think the circular should clearly state that they should allow 
all the facilities even if the prospective client prefers thumb impression 
over signatures.

- Original Message - 
From: Pamnani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] banking facilities to the visually challenged


 Rajesh and others,

 Just like to clarify the whole matter. I met Mrs. Usha Thorat, Deputy
 Governor and  Kaza Sudhakra, Cheif General Manager on Monday 2nd June and
 discussed the entire matter with them in detail. It took nearly 2 
 hours.Mrs.
 Thorat read out the draft circular and I suggested some modifications. We
 also discussed the problem with currency notes and coins. The RBI
 understands our problems and is working towards resolving them one at a
 time. This circular is just the first step. Any visually challenged person
 can show this circular to a troublesome bank manager and demand his 
 rights.
 I too know that unless the procedure is spelt out the banks will still 
 give
 us trouble. I am drafting the details on the issues that I had raised in 
 my
 mail last week. I am meeting Mr. Sinor ,Chairman of Indian Banks
 Association, on Monday 9th June and shall revert to this group after the
 meeting. If I get a chance i will circulate the memorandum tomorrow or on
 Monday for your comments.
 Thanks to all who have suffered at the hands of the banks and those who 
 have
 given me their inputs.

 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message - 
 From: Rajesh Asudani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:04 PM
 Subject: [AI] banking facilities to the visually challenged


 Surely, the development is positive and we must congratulate ourselves 
 for
 it.

 However, I do not see any reason for jubilance for a multiplicity of
 reasons:

 firstly, it has taken long long time to come, 45 days mentioned in CCPD
 judgment have long since been over!

 Secondly, it is merely a brief circular stating perfunctorily what is
 contained in several petitions without delving into the spirit of matter.

 Thirdly, seeing the scant respect for laws and bye laws in our country, I
 can only hope to cite it as a source of my demands being supported on
 paper by the regulator! and derive moral comfort from it!!!

 Fourthly and importantly, it merely contains the general statement of
 providing all the banking facility and eschews any detailed guidelines 
 for
 various facilities, refering to IBA guidelines in pursuance of CCPD
 judgment which are, to say the least, archaic in nature.

 Fifthly, it has the potential to create contradictions between what it
 purpotedly gives and mode of realization for which it refers to earlier
 guidelines, adding to already prevalent confusion. For instance, it says
 that banks have to provide cheque books including third party cheques,
 which is explicitly [or at least interpretatively] denied in ccpd
 judgment.

 The true remedy lies inenumerating detailed guidelines for availing
 facilities, and we must keep on pressing for it. RBI/IBA has to issue
 fresh guidelines in light of present circular. The battle is far from 
 won.

 Yes, the circular must be praised for recognizing legal equality of
 visually impaired persons, but, alas, there is many a slip between the 
 cup
 and the lip!!

 The era of individual banks following their sweet will in 
 denying/allowing
 their facilities to VI, has to be ended, and the present circular is a
 small step towards it, which has to be followed to its logical 
 conclusion.
 I remember chairman of LIC having proclaimed a few days ago, that the
 primier insurance agency does not at all discriminate in giving insurance
 to disabled including blind May This circular  not proove to be
 one more such tentalising illusion!

 We must work to have it implemented and letter and spirit for which
 universal and fresh guidelines are the need of the hour!!!

 Forgive my cautious optimism which is often dubbed as morbid 
 pessimism

 Rajesh



 
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- Original Message - 
From: Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: [AI] Looking for chandra supriya's contact numbers


 Dear Folks:

 Could anyone pl provide the contact numbers of chandra supriya? I need
 to talk to her on an important matter.

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Re: [AI] Training in etiquette

[Vidya]

May be Give discount to students rs600.
I must congratulate the organization though for one of the most innovative 
way of making money.

- Original Message - 
From: Geetha Shamanna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Access india accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:52 AM
Subject: [AI] Training in etiquette


 Hello all,

 There was a lengthy discussion on this list sometime ago about usage of
 cutlery and other table habits.

 It might be possible to arrange for a one-day training workshop with the
 help of Mitra Jyothi where cutlery usage and other etiquette could be 
 taught
 by professional trainers. This can be done if adequate number of people in
 Bangalore are interested in attending such a training session.

 Before we proceed with the venture, we would like input from interested
 participants about the following:

 1. What would you like covered in the training in addition to cutlery 
 usage?
 Please list out specific topics.

 2. Preliminary enquiries revealed that training institutes charge enormous
 sums for such trainings, considering that such sessions are mostly offered
 to corporate clients and some amount of pre-training preparation is
 involved. Tentative cost per person would amount to around Rs.1200 per
 person. Would this be too expensive?

 Please send in your inputs.

 Geetha


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Re: [AI] good news

[Vidya Joshi]

In deed it is a very good news. But can't people take it off list? After 
sometime it becomes off topic.

- Original Message - 
From: Swrita Amrit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] good news


 congrets, congrets, congrets.
 - Original Message - 
 From: rambabu adikesavalu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:19 AM
 Subject: [AI] good news


 Dear Friends,
 I have got a very good news to share with you all.
 I am appointed as Assistant Professor at Tata
 Institute of Social Sciences, Mumbai.
 As I am expected to join the job before 7the december,
 I would be leaving for Mumbai soon and likely to join
 the job by the last week of November.
 The significance of this posting is:
 It was reserved for the visually challenged.
 I hope all the other universities/leading educational
 institutes would also emulate the TISS in recognising
 our skills and provide us the right opportunities.
 With love,
 A.Rambabu

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Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English, Hindi and Commerce - South Delhi

[Vidya]

I talked to someone who knows the DUE system and found that colleges never 
reach the candidates through consultancies. Why so in the case of the 
Physically challenged?
And then If someone wants to be helpful to the PH, why not reveal the name 
of the college needing the candidates? Why not advertise the vacancy in the 
newspapers which is the normal procedure of the University? And when someone 
raises such valid questions, why do people have to take offense?
One should not mind if someone takes offense, but one should always mind 
when someone makes capital out of the unemployment of the PH.
When I say capital I mean any kind of benefit out of a dismal situation.

- Original Message - 
From: Viraj Kafle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce - 
South Delhi


We do miss the bigger picture sometimes. Quite possible. But that does not
mean one cannot raise something one feels relevant. Nor do I intend to do
any foul play  or to level any accusation. There was nothing unhealthy about
the way I raised issues. One could always disagree, but I see no reasons to
be appalled and to decide to withdraw.

Anyway, to clarify some of the points:

a) It is not the number of times the notice has been posted, but the similar
nature of the notice everytime is what concerned me. Had they be a bit
transparent, as I said in my previous mail, there was no reason for me to
blow the whistle. So the nature, and not the number, was my concern.

b) Of course, the process is problematic. One may have a policy not to
distinguish between private/government jobs, but in a public forum like
this, the distinction must be made by all means, I think, and it is of no
surprise that anyone would, in one way or the other, raise the issue.

c) The logic of reaching out to as many candidates as possible would be more
effective, in my mind, if things are presented in more open and clear
manner.

d) True, nowhere in that notice it was mentioned that one cannot apply in
vacancies of the similar nature. But, even in this particular vacancy, one
must have a choice, whether to make his/her way through the consultancy or
to deal directly with the institution. owing to The recent developments that
have taken place regarding Delhi University and the challenged people, the
later has become more relevant, I guess. The non-transparent nature of the
notice does not allow this choice.

On the whole, my concern is simple. If the idea is to do the most and the
best for the chalenged people, why not do it in the most open and fairest
manner?

Regards.

- Original Message - 
From: Anubhuti Mittal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: VACANCY - Lecturers - English,Hindi and Commerce -
South Delhi


Dear Members ...

  Pardon me for marking this mail to all but I thought there may be
people who would have similar questions , hence, it was important to reach
out to all .
  With my limited intelligence levels , I am unable to understand the motive
behind the issues raised by the more enlightened members of this forum
They say

  a) This is the third time such a vacancy has been posted .even
subjects are more or less the same.  .. Is the number of times a
vacancy is posted  an issue  ?

  b) shocking to realise the utter lack of  transparency in such notices
... we have a standard process of releasing / advertising vacancies and do
not differentiate between private /public/NGO/self employment or any such
category . If someone has a problem with our processes, too bad ..we can't
help it .

  c) Nor do i see any logic whatsoever behind the manner in which the
Consultancy, in these cases, is  insisting on being a mediator between the
college and the applicants. The logic my friend, is very simple... to
reach out to as many eligible candidates as possible, so that they get the
benefit  ... no hidden motive ... probably you missed this very  obvious
logic because you were busy trying to figure out a more ulterior /
clandestine logic where none existed .

  d) In a job like this, needless to say, we have a well laid out procedure
in which the institution advertises and the applicants apply and  appear for
the interview, rather than sending his/her resumés to any NGO or
consultancy. . Nowhere in the email have I asked candidates not to send
their candidature against similar vacancies advertised  in other sources and
route their CVs only to us. The institutes know better than us and I know
for a fact , are advertising as per the requirements etc  but I see no
harm in case they are trying to increase the # of relevant resumes against
an open position .

  I am amazed and appalled at the level of  arguments raised ... it is quite
painful to note that we have people within our community who miss the bigger
picture and insist on spending time 

Re: [AI] Freedom Scientific and the Islamic fundamentalists

[Vidya]

The most fundamentalist and the most dangerous are the Christians in 
America, and among them those who are the blind are more sectarian, so 
freedom scientific was already in fundamentalist hands. On what basis can we 
call every Muslim organization fundamentalist?

Having said that, I think this discussion has no place on this list. If I 
was the moderator I would send a very strong warning to Venkat for the 
communal nature of his message.
(my opinion).

Regards
- Original Message - 
From: Vetrivel Murugan, Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Freedom Scientific and the Islamic fundamentalists


 Let's be very clear. Not all Muslims are fundamentalists and all 
 Christians
 are liberals. Every religion has liberal as well as conservative elements.
 As users of freedomscientific products, let's be very clear that the
 ownership of this company is simply switching from the American rich to 
 the
 Middle-eastern rich. So our debate and discussion should be focused around
 issues such as cutting down the cost of freedomscientific products, making
 them widely available to the visually impaired community etc. And hey, a
 final word: No matter whether we consider the new owners as 
 fundamentalists
 or not, they are hardly going to make much difference in terms of those
 issues that I just mentioned. I sincerely hope that I am proved wrong by 
 the
 new ownership.

 Vetri.

 - Original Message - 
 From: firoz pathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 10:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Freedom Scientific and the Islamic fundamentalists


 dear venkat
 blind comunity is unique blind means blind without any color,religion or
 caste
 i do not understand your folloing  line
 I was very much worried. Islamic
 fundamentalism is permeating into every corner of the earth and we all 
 have
 to be cautious about it.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Abdullah Ansari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Freedom Scientific and the Islamic fundamentalists


 On 5/26/07, venkat ramana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Honorable Members,

 When I first heard about the news of an Islamic
 fundamentalist
 group investing in Freedom Scientific, I was not very much concerned. I
 thought it was a roomer. But, when I heard the official podcast of FS in
 which it's CEO has conformed the matter, I was very much worried. 
 Islamic
 fundamentalism is permeating into every corner of the earth and we all
 have
 to be cautious about it. There is no need, however, to oppose their
 decision
 and show any outward signs of opposition. But, it is a better idea to
 keep a
 watch on the happenings.

 Thanks

 Venkat


 When given to understand, the islamic fundamentalist are investing in
 Freedom Scientific,there is no concern to worry.Freedom Scientific is
 engage in a nobel cause and the so called islamic fundamentalist are
 encouraging them.My friend Venkat Ramana will appreciate that reverting
 back to fundamentalism will definitely remove the chaos, hatred and
 termoil
 in the society.Islam stands for helps to be extended to all mankind
 specially down trodan and handicapped.The investment in FS shall be
 viewed
 from this point of view.


 Regards,
 A J Ansari

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[AI] Teachers Training(Enable India)

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Dear Friends,
  As you are aware, Enable India is a non-profit organization working towards 
empowerment of persons with disability through employment, training, 
supplemental
education and computer training for the blind.
  We are conducting a teachers training course for computer instructors for the 
blind in May2007.
When:  May 7 to May 26
Duration: 3 weeks
Where:Bangalore (details of venue will be given in few days).
Fee:Rs. 5000 per participant.
Note: Accommodation and food will be provided. Charges to be borne by the 
participant includes travel to and fro to Bangalore and incidental charges such
as laundry.
  If you are interested to participat  would like to know more details, please 
contact us on the numbers mentioned below.
  You could contact me on my personal Id- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  080- 41101390/ 25714842/ 9845313919
  Thanks.
  
 


Cheers

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Computer Trainer
Enable India
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[AI] need a number

[Vidya Joshi]

Sorry folks for this off topic post. Can someone please send me
Taraprakash's mobile number?
Tks for your mails.

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[AI] Need Dr. Ankatoppa's info

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Dear Friends,
  Can anybody give Dr. Ankatoppa's contact information immediately?
  We are trying to contact him for Medical Transcription course in Bangalore.
  Thanks.



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[AI] Medical Transcription course for VI in Bangalore

[Vidya Lakshmi]

   
  About Enable India:
   
  Enable India is a non-profit organization founded in 1999. Our goal is to 
empower people with disabilities through rehabilitation, supplemental education 
and employment. One of our main focus areas is free computer training for the 
blind and visually impaired. This training helps the blind in their reading and 
education as well as enables them in their employment and careers.
   
  Computer training for visually impaired
   
  100 visually impaired adults trained in MS Office and Internet
  40 visually impaired adults trained through workshops
  40 trainers from around the country trained to train visually impaired in MS 
Office 
  50 children trained through NGOs and consultancies
  After training students placed in IBM, 24x7 customer, Aditi Technologies, 
Dendrite, Transworks, CBay and others.
   
  About Aakson:
   
  Aakson group of institutions under Aakson educational trust (Registered under 
a Karnataka govt acts) started in 1998 as the offshore partner of a reputed 
Australian university, university of western Sydney. Since 1998 we have 
successfully completed various batches of courses with adhering to the 
international quality standards  their alumni working in various reputed 
organizations world wide. Not only at the international level Aakson has proved 
its excellence, but also the recognition of their education is accepted by a 
NAAC accredited then UGC AIU recognized  approved by ministry of HRD govt of 
India University.
   
  One of the courses being conducted by Aakson is Medical Transcription. 
Medical Transcription is one of the sunrises in BPO industry with immense 
growth opportunities and is an interesting, challenging and paying career. This 
industry is facing some very peculiar circumstances regarding skilled manpower, 
which entails some challenging problems. The M T industry’s major bottleneck is 
lack of quality Medical Transcriptionists. An informal observation of the 
industry itself will show some obvious signs of huge demand supply gap for 
productive Medical Transcriptionists.
   
   


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Enable India
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Re: [AI] shift delete but still in recycle bin?

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Hi!
  You might have not pressed the shift key properly. It used to happen with me 
also. 
The reason I found for this problem is holding the shift key properly.
  First hold down the shift key properly then press the delete key.
  To answer your another question about sending huge files, you can use 
yousend.com
It allows you to send files upto 300 MB. Please go through the website 
conditions  understand more about their service.
  Hope this helps you...
Thanks.
  
Anjali Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  friends,
I prefer to shift delete my materials but it somehow for unknown reasons goes 
in my recycle bin.
what's wrong? why like this?
what can I do to have the desired results?
of course I can then go to recycle bin and delete it from there...but 
technology can offer or is expected to give short cut methods and not two steps 
for one task.
  so plz suggest what's wrong, where is the error and how to correct it.
btw my system is os 98 with office 2000.
  thanks for all the expected brilliant suggestion 
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[AI] Free Computer Training for VI

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Hi Everybody! 
  As you may be aware, Enable India is a non profit organization established in 
1999. Our goal is to empower people with disabilities through rehabilitation, 
supplemental education and employment. One of our main focus areas is free 
computer training for the blind and visually impaired.
  
We are starting a new batch of basic computer training in the month of February 
2007. So we are looking for some candidates with following criteria:

1.Should be able to understand and speak English.
2.People those who are studying towards any Degree or Diploma in distant 
education can also register.
3.Even people those who have completed SSLC or PUC with good English can 
expect openings for training.
4.Candidates should be able to dedicate their full time.

The duration of the course is 6-8 months. We will also help them in getting 
employment depends on their Education, interests and skills. 
Interested candidate can Contact Enable India on the following numbers:
  080-41101390 or 080-25714842.  
   
  Interested people should register at Enable India before 25th January 2006.
   
  Evaluation for the selected candidates will be held on 25st Jan  31st 
January 2007. 
   
   Details of course:
Courses Offered: Basic Computer training i.e MS Office and Internet Explorer 
using JAWS. 
Course duration: 6 months to 8 months – Duration is based on English knowledge 
and fluency and aptitude
Goals of the course: The emphasis of the course is for students to gain 
computer knowledge and use it effectively for employment, daily living and 
recreation. 
Brief Curriculum Details: Windows, Basic Windows Applications, Windows 
Explorer, Help, Word, Internet Explorer, Excel, Outlook Express, JAWS features 
and utilities. 
Course fee: free – Refundable amount Rs.200 will be charged.
  Accommodation: We will help them in getting accommodation in some hostels or 
PG’s
   
  Looking forward for some responses.
   


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[AI] Needed RCI URL

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Dear friends,
   
  Can anybody give the URL of RCI organization?
   
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[AI] AZZ Cardfile Software

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Hi There !
  Is there anybody on the list who is using AZZ Cardfile software? 
If yes, please tell me is it worth of downloading it.
If you want to know the details of this software, you can visit saksham.org.
  Thanks in Advance.
   


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[AI] How to remove tilda files?

[Vidya Lakshmi]

 
  Hi !
   
  Please anybody on the list tell me how to remove Tilda files.
  I know it is temporarily created files  will be removed automatically, but 
it is not happening on my computer.
  Every time I press Ctrl+S these are files are being created and not getting 
removed even after closing the folder.
   
  Please tell me what to do. How to remove these files?
   
  Thanks.
   


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[AI] How To Configure Gmail-OE?

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Hi Friends !
  Can anybody post clear  proper instructions for configuring gmail account to 
OE?
  WAITING FOR INSTRUCTIONS
  Thanks in Advance !
   
  
 


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[AI] Need Help

[Vidya Lakshmi]

 
   
  Hi  All!
   
  Can anybody on the list help me to get the proper information regarding 
correspondence MBA for a visually impaired?
   
  The quick responses would be appreciated.
   
  Thanks.
   
   


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[AI] Thanks For The Info

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Hi All !
   
  Thanks for all of you who helped me to understand about the security dialog.
  Dinesh - I have a simple question.
  Actually almost all the websites have  http not https. Therefore, are these 
sites are not secured?
   
  Thanks.
   


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[AI] Help - Security Dialog

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Hi !
  Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
  Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security dialog 
box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if you click on 
link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
Why is this so?
What should one do at this time?
  
Thanks in advance
  
 


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Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog

[Vidya Lakshmi]

Hi Kiran !
  At present I am doing the same. But, I didn't understand why that dialog box 
is appearing only when clicking on some links in some sites.
Another worry for me is - will this dialog create any issues to the computer?
  Thanks.
   
  

Kiran Kaja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Simple, click the Yes button. 

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Hi !
Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security
dialog box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if you
click on link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
Why is this so?
What should one do at this time?

Thanks in advance




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Re: [AI] Basic Computer Training

[Vidya Lakshmi]

 
  No. This is the basic computer training. TTc is not yet planned.
  

Subramani L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ms. Vidhya:

Is this the TTC training that Shanti has been planning to do?

Subramani

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Dear Vidya Madame, It would not be possible to come there and join the
course. Therefore, can you send the tutorials? If possible, please send
me
them.

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: [AI] Basic Computer Training



Dear List!

This is to inform you about the basic computer training starting on
Aug,
15 to Aug, 19 at Mitra Jyothi (Collaborated with Enable India).
Since some people will not be able to attend the regular batches, we
thought those people can be served through this type of modules.
Therefore,
if any of you require basic computer training, please contact us.

The topics covered in this module - Desktop, how to work with multiple
applications, menu (Start menu and Application menu) and if possible,
editing concepts.
Of course, there may not be quality in the teaching because of short
time,
but some basic things will be covered.
In fact, if there is anything that could be covered during the short
time,
we will definitely teach those concepts.

What is the pre-requisite for this training?

The person, who would like to undergo this training, should know basic
typing and little bit of keyboard familiarity.

If you or any of your contacts need this training and can match the
criteria, please contact us on:

080-41101390/25714842

Thanks.





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Re: [AI] Basic Computer Training

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  Hi !
   
  Thankyou. The course contents are mentioned in the first mail. Anyway, please 
read below.
  The basic concepts such as Desktop, working with multiple applications, menus 
(Start menu and Application menu) and Editing will be taught during the course.
   
  Thanks,
   
   
  

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  Hi there, Nice to have a course like this. Please mail the course-content if 
possible to me.

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: [AI] Basic Computer Training



Dear List!

This is to inform you about the basic computer training starting on Aug, 
15 to Aug, 19 at Mitra Jyothi (Collaborated with Enable India).
Since some people will not be able to attend the regular batches, we 
thought those people can be served through this type of modules. Therefore, 
if any of you require basic computer training, please contact us.

The topics covered in this module - Desktop, how to work with multiple 
applications, menu (Start menu and Application menu) and if possible, 
editing concepts.
Of course, there may not be quality in the teaching because of short time, 
but some basic things will be covered.
In fact, if there is anything that could be covered during the short time, 
we will definitely teach those concepts.

What is the pre-requisite for this training?

The person, who would like to undergo this training, should know basic 
typing and little bit of keyboard familiarity.

If you or any of your contacts need this training and can match the 
criteria, please contact us on:

080-41101390/25714842

Thanks.





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[AI] HTML Info needed

[Vidya Lakshmi]

 
  Hi !
   
  I am Vidya writing here. I need an urgent information on how to use clickable 
on mouse over items in IE.
  Please visit www.corpbank.com to understand this problem.
  If you find something useful, please let me know.
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[AI] Computer training

[Vidya Lakshmi]

 
  I am Vidya, working as Computer Trainer at Enable India.
   
  We are happy to inform you that Enable India, with collaboration of Mithra 
Jyothi is going to commence a new batch of computer training for visually 
impaired people.
  The batch will start on 10 July of 2006.
   
  Duration of this course is 6 to 8 months. In this course, you would be taught 
fundamental of computer, windows explorer, and MS office applications like 
Word, Excel and Power point, Outlook express and Internet explorer with JAWS 
features.
   
  Candidates are requested to register with us before July,6th and also undergo 
the interview selection which will be held on July,3rd from 2:00 PM to 5:00 PM 
and July,8th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 Pm.
   
  For more information, contact on the below numbers:
  080 41101390/25714842
   
   
   


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