Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Certainly my English would improve if keep reading these posts. This post going to be long as boss is not there in the office. Anyway, friend Srinivasu I sincerely respect your action oriented arguments. If you like, I can share at least 3 young VI individuals who are desperately looking for employment. TO start with only 1 of them looks to me employable with pay. I completely Agree with Kanchan mam’s argument. One being challenged must have extra to offer. I was forced to start working with out any pay when other college peers partied & had wonderful teenage life. After 4 or 5 months of hard work and learning I had started contributing to that small firm and payment started of Rs. 1500. This is not long back only in Jan 2005. I believe that has paid me off. I finished off as the 2nd highest superior in the same firm in 2009 and today I am working with Reliance ADA group at a respectable position and... But journey hasn’t been that glorious. I faced each problem that has been discussed here. Have cried and every moment made my self competitive, better than able bodied peers around me. If I was not blind I would have been placed on the very first day from my B school campus, but was lucky to at least get placed on the 10th day. So lucky were not my other VI friends who were better than me. So Mantra is keep trying and importantly raise the bar in interpersonal skills, professional knowledge and give results and just grab any opportunity comes your way, . One of these guys who are looking job for last 8 odd months has stubborn salary demand and remains static in his English skills, knowledge etc. and he says he is trying. 8 months in my opinion is a good enough time to show some improvement. Problem is “chalta hain or chal jayega” attitude. Anyway, I take this opportunity to acknowledge XRCVC & Enable India’s efforts to not just give employment to Vis, but to make them employable which In my opinion the very bottom line problem, very very challenging. On 12/7/11, Pamnani wrote: > thanks Rajesh very well put. The difference from my time and now is that in > the old days we got no money for working with a law office but now they pay > something even though it may be peanuts and now there is a chance for VI to > practise commercial law and sit in office and work on the computer thus > relying less but not eliminating the need for a sighted assistant. The > problem for a VI is how does he get in and then prove his worth as a junior. > > Once you get in and prove some worth then you get paid well these days. In > my time even as Advocate assistant or Solicitor Assistant you could not live > on the salary received therefore there was no choice but to start your own > practise or go to a job. Now the salaries are good without the headache of > infrastructure costs. > > Yes knowledge is required but you got to first convince at an interview and > then show your skills at the computer. Litigation is tough and tougher for a > VI and definitely not remunerative till you have some years of standing. > The pressures are more now and the speed of output has increased. therefore > the time to train a VI is something that puts people off. > > Unfortunately those who want to take up this profession first finish their > studies and then ask questions. They have lost 5 years in the bargain. Also > when I tell them that they have to know computers well, I get a reluctance > and resistance to detailed learning. We have to overcome our disability so > that it only remains an impairment. > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Asudani, Rajesh" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO > firms > > >> Well, I think a VI can practice law only if: >> 1. she/he can afford a sighted assistant, >> 2. Has good computer knowledge >> 3. Knows the subject at a level which can be called above average, >> 4. is from economically well-off family to enable her/him to be without >> income for a considerable time, >> Otherwise not. >> These are the conjunctive requirements and not disjunctive. >> >> This is the harsh reality which should be explained to any prospective >> lawyers. >> I could not practice despite fulfilling clearly the requirement No. 3, as >> I did not fulfill requirements 1 and 4. Requirement 2 was inapplicable in >> our days >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani >> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:47 PM >> To: accessindi
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
thanks Rajesh very well put. The difference from my time and now is that in the old days we got no money for working with a law office but now they pay something even though it may be peanuts and now there is a chance for VI to practise commercial law and sit in office and work on the computer thus relying less but not eliminating the need for a sighted assistant. The problem for a VI is how does he get in and then prove his worth as a junior. Once you get in and prove some worth then you get paid well these days. In my time even as Advocate assistant or Solicitor Assistant you could not live on the salary received therefore there was no choice but to start your own practise or go to a job. Now the salaries are good without the headache of infrastructure costs. Yes knowledge is required but you got to first convince at an interview and then show your skills at the computer. Litigation is tough and tougher for a VI and definitely not remunerative till you have some years of standing. The pressures are more now and the speed of output has increased. therefore the time to train a VI is something that puts people off. Unfortunately those who want to take up this profession first finish their studies and then ask questions. They have lost 5 years in the bargain. Also when I tell them that they have to know computers well, I get a reluctance and resistance to detailed learning. We have to overcome our disability so that it only remains an impairment. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Well, I think a VI can practice law only if: 1. she/he can afford a sighted assistant, 2. Has good computer knowledge 3. Knows the subject at a level which can be called above average, 4. is from economically well-off family to enable her/him to be without income for a considerable time, Otherwise not. These are the conjunctive requirements and not disjunctive. This is the harsh reality which should be explained to any prospective lawyers. I could not practice despite fulfilling clearly the requirement No. 3, as I did not fulfill requirements 1 and 4. Requirement 2 was inapplicable in our days -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:47 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms I agree that jobs are very difficult for the visually challenged in the corporate sector but I do think being self employed is also very tough. I have been getting emails and calls from youngsters who want to join law and I really dont know what to do.How to explain to people how tough it is to survive and how to get them an entry into the profession? Most of the visually challenged prospective lawyers have : a. finished law degree without working while they study so they have no experience while their peers have worked atleast during 4 vacations. Its so tough to get an internship and if you dont get one you dont have experience after college so no employer wants you. its really a catch 22 situation. b. not adequate knowledge of screen readers-most people who call me say they know computers but most of the time they know very little. They cant type fast nor is their research skill honed nor do they know how to deal with track changes. Again if the visually challenged lawyer would know these skills then he could be marketed and someone would give him a chance.Knowledge of computers more than your sighted peers would be a marked advantage and may to some extent mitigate the effect of the impairment. c. lack of knowledge of braille- d. No superior knowledge of the subject. e. no sighted help to read papers I agree that I should not be compared with my able bodied peers but how does someone convince a professional to allow someone to sit in his office? How does a client get convinced enough to trust you with his matter? Forget about the law and give me the practical solutions. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Could not agree more!!! -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jairam Balasubramanian Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms At Srinivasu If we are talking about i
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Srinivasu, thanks for the message. Please start sensitising since you have got the companies' names and the candidates. Friends, I feel that knowing how to use open source software products like NVDA, and good mobility skills increase the chances of getting a job in the private sector. Regards, Shadab On 12/3/11, li...@srinivasu.org wrote: > Shadab, > > Sorry, I neither said VIs don't have ability nor I said we are not > potential. > > When you say HRs are instructed by the top management that not to hire VI. > Which is that company? Only having the name, it's possible to investigate > and sensitize them to hire eligible VI candidates. Yes, we can't generalize > the statement when a X company is at fault. > > Tell me the scenario where VI is denied employment on disability and I shall > be happy to talk to them provided candidate should be willing to cooperate > and provide all necessary data during the process. > > Thanks, > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Shadab Husain wrote: > >> Hi Srinivasu, >> >> Naming a company would be of no use because we won't be able to prove >> their discrimination, and defamation proceedings can be initiated >> against the whistle blower. HRs are instructed by the top brass not to >> recruit any visually impaired in the special recruitment drives that >> are in vogue. Thinking out of the box is not the wont of these >> traditional companies. Generalised statements are not entirely >> correct, but the blind have enough potential and ability to prove >> themselves. >> >> Regards, Shadab >> >> On 12/3/11, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote: >>> Sorry, I don't think, I would agree that. In my opinion, no matter if the >>> applicant is VI or other, no one call them to apply for a job. It's >>> candidates responsibility to hunt for openings and apply, if the meet the >>> eligibility. Then, if employer refuses on the grounds on the disability >>> or >>> VI, is right thing to question. >>> >>> I don't think, anyone on the list who approached industry with required >>> skill set has ever denied opportunity unless if there is a mismatch in >>> eligibility. >>> >>> Friends, sorry, but not just the industry, but everyone needs to change >>> the >>> mindset. If we compare way back five to ten years ago, now the scenario >>> has >>> much changed. I remember, there were discussions a few years ago, where >>> folks reported that, they were called for interview, but when they >>> reached >>> that particular office, they were asked to leave. But today, that's not >>> the >>> scenario. >>> >>> Sorry, if I hurt anyone's sentiments, but this is as well the reality. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Srinivasu >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Lalit Yadav >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> No company stated clearly that they would not employ totally blind in >>>> spite meeting the eligibility. >>>> But infect it is true that only very very few company hire blind people >>>> even VI people. >>>> It is ground reality. >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Lalit Yadav >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "li...@srinivasu.org" <li...@srinivasu.org> >>>> Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:25 >>>> To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> > >>>> Cc: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO >>>> firms >>>> Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ >>>> totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Srinivasu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi >>>> <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do >>>> >>>> > companies recruit totally blind people. >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
thanks Rajesh very well put. The difference from my time and now is that in the old days we got no money for working with a law office but now they pay something even though it may be peanuts and now there is a chance for VI to practise commercial law and sit in office and work on the computer thus relying less but not eliminating the need for a sighted assistant. The problem for a VI is how does he get in and then prove his worth as a junior. Once you get in and prove some worth then you get paid well these days. In my time even as Advocate assistant or Solicitor Assistant you could not live on the salary received therefore there was no choice but to start your own practise or go to a job. Now the salaries are good without the headache of infrastructure costs. Yes knowledge is required but you got to first convince at an interview and then show your skills at the computer. Litigation is tough and tougher for a VI and definitely not remunerative till you have some years of standing. The pressures are more now and the speed of output has increased. therefore the time to train a VI is something that puts people off. Unfortunately those who want to take up this profession first finish their studies and then ask questions. They have lost 5 years in the bargain. Also when I tell them that they have to know computers well, I get a reluctance and resistance to detailed learning. We have to overcome our disability so that it only remains an impairment. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Well, I think a VI can practice law only if: 1. she/he can afford a sighted assistant, 2. Has good computer knowledge 3. Knows the subject at a level which can be called above average, 4. is from economically well-off family to enable her/him to be without income for a considerable time, Otherwise not. These are the conjunctive requirements and not disjunctive. This is the harsh reality which should be explained to any prospective lawyers. I could not practice despite fulfilling clearly the requirement No. 3, as I did not fulfill requirements 1 and 4. Requirement 2 was inapplicable in our days -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:47 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms I agree that jobs are very difficult for the visually challenged in the corporate sector but I do think being self employed is also very tough. I have been getting emails and calls from youngsters who want to join law and I really dont know what to do.How to explain to people how tough it is to survive and how to get them an entry into the profession? Most of the visually challenged prospective lawyers have : a. finished law degree without working while they study so they have no experience while their peers have worked atleast during 4 vacations. Its so tough to get an internship and if you dont get one you dont have experience after college so no employer wants you. its really a catch 22 situation. b. not adequate knowledge of screen readers-most people who call me say they know computers but most of the time they know very little. They cant type fast nor is their research skill honed nor do they know how to deal with track changes. Again if the visually challenged lawyer would know these skills then he could be marketed and someone would give him a chance.Knowledge of computers more than your sighted peers would be a marked advantage and may to some extent mitigate the effect of the impairment. c. lack of knowledge of braille- d. No superior knowledge of the subject. e. no sighted help to read papers I agree that I should not be compared with my able bodied peers but how does someone convince a professional to allow someone to sit in his office? How does a client get convinced enough to trust you with his matter? Forget about the law and give me the practical solutions. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Could not agree more!!! -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jairam Balasubramanian Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms At Srinivasu If we are talking about i
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Well, I think a VI can practice law only if: 1. she/he can afford a sighted assistant, 2. Has good computer knowledge 3. Knows the subject at a level which can be called above average, 4. is from economically well-off family to enable her/him to be without income for a considerable time, Otherwise not. These are the conjunctive requirements and not disjunctive. This is the harsh reality which should be explained to any prospective lawyers. I could not practice despite fulfilling clearly the requirement No. 3, as I did not fulfill requirements 1 and 4. Requirement 2 was inapplicable in our days -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pamnani Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 7:47 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms I agree that jobs are very difficult for the visually challenged in the corporate sector but I do think being self employed is also very tough. I have been getting emails and calls from youngsters who want to join law and I really dont know what to do.How to explain to people how tough it is to survive and how to get them an entry into the profession? Most of the visually challenged prospective lawyers have : a. finished law degree without working while they study so they have no experience while their peers have worked atleast during 4 vacations. Its so tough to get an internship and if you dont get one you dont have experience after college so no employer wants you. its really a catch 22 situation. b. not adequate knowledge of screen readers-most people who call me say they know computers but most of the time they know very little. They cant type fast nor is their research skill honed nor do they know how to deal with track changes. Again if the visually challenged lawyer would know these skills then he could be marketed and someone would give him a chance.Knowledge of computers more than your sighted peers would be a marked advantage and may to some extent mitigate the effect of the impairment. c. lack of knowledge of braille- d. No superior knowledge of the subject. e. no sighted help to read papers I agree that I should not be compared with my able bodied peers but how does someone convince a professional to allow someone to sit in his office? How does a client get convinced enough to trust you with his matter? Forget about the law and give me the practical solutions. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms > Could not agree more!!! > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jairam > Balasubramanian > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO > firms > > At Srinivasu > > If we are talking about individual company names, one company named > Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company > and also that most of its employees were challenged. > The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking > space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually > challenged person was recruited there. > After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus > recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro, > Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of > the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates. > > Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up > into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its > sheer bull shit. > Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and > based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the > requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into > those jobs. > And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier > institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of > having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre > percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their > knowledge and networking. > Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us > who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their > respective domains. > For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may > necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a > whole. > If
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Hello All, The situation in India for disabled is very very bad, leave alone few good example but majority is down under. There is complete lack of any thought , no accessible tools , basic working condition for disabled, leave aside salary or promotion , no training. Who will change inherited colonial thinking of people. Disabled category is non homogenous group who are named as obligation, risk and costly proposition. I am still positive about changing situation as more people are given opportunity. Cheers, Pankaj Kwatra -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:55 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Could not agree more!!! -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jairam Balasubramanian Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms At Srinivasu If we are talking about individual company names, one company named Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company and also that most of its employees were challenged. The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually challenged person was recruited there. After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro, Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates. Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its sheer bull shit. Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into those jobs. And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their knowledge and networking. Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their respective domains. For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a whole. If our education systems are non-inclusive, then its not fair to blame the individual for not possessing good linguistic skills, or the so called soft skills, most of the schools being regional in nature, even in relatively bigger cities. Let us not generalise our ideas on the basis of a very small sample, where the ground reality is completely different. May be that, the so called HR managers and the top management, comprising of the best brains from B-schools, lack the skill sets in valuation, which they think they are good at. Its all about finding value, and if someone is not able to find any value in something, then its his/her incompetence as well as the product itself. If I have been created differently, then why I should be equated with my non-peers and rated on the same scale. Competence/incompetence is highly relative. Jairam Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mod
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Very well said Jairam! Even two worth-noting points in this regard could be: 1. The visuallly impaired employees are also equally entitled to pre-job and post-job trainings as The non-disabled employees of any company/government offices are entitled to! 2. Institutes/organisations working for the employment of visually impaired persons need to provide training in syncrinisation with the job market. Naming one or two organisations/institutes will not make any sense in order to just counterpose my ideas. With best regards, Binni Kumari - Original Message - From: "Jairam Balasubramanian" To: Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms At Srinivasu If we are talking about individual company names, one company named Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company and also that most of its employees were challenged. The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually challenged person was recruited there. After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro, Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates. Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its sheer bull shit. Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into those jobs. And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their knowledge and networking. Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their respective domains. For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a whole. If our education systems are non-inclusive, then its not fair to blame the individual for not possessing good linguistic skills, or the so called soft skills, most of the schools being regional in nature, even in relatively bigger cities. Let us not generalise our ideas on the basis of a very small sample, where the ground reality is completely different. May be that, the so called HR managers and the top management, comprising of the best brains from B-schools, lack the skill sets in valuation, which they think they are good at. Its all about finding value, and if someone is not able to find any value in something, then its his/her incompetence as well as the product itself. If I have been created differently, then why I should be equated with my non-peers and rated on the same scale. Competence/incompetence is highly relative. Jairam Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
I agree that jobs are very difficult for the visually challenged in the corporate sector but I do think being self employed is also very tough. I have been getting emails and calls from youngsters who want to join law and I really dont know what to do.How to explain to people how tough it is to survive and how to get them an entry into the profession? Most of the visually challenged prospective lawyers have : a. finished law degree without working while they study so they have no experience while their peers have worked atleast during 4 vacations. Its so tough to get an internship and if you dont get one you dont have experience after college so no employer wants you. its really a catch 22 situation. b. not adequate knowledge of screen readers-most people who call me say they know computers but most of the time they know very little. They cant type fast nor is their research skill honed nor do they know how to deal with track changes. Again if the visually challenged lawyer would know these skills then he could be marketed and someone would give him a chance.Knowledge of computers more than your sighted peers would be a marked advantage and may to some extent mitigate the effect of the impairment. c. lack of knowledge of braille- d. No superior knowledge of the subject. e. no sighted help to read papers I agree that I should not be compared with my able bodied peers but how does someone convince a professional to allow someone to sit in his office? How does a client get convinced enough to trust you with his matter? Forget about the law and give me the practical solutions. Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "Asudani, Rajesh" To: Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Could not agree more!!! -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jairam Balasubramanian Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms At Srinivasu If we are talking about individual company names, one company named Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company and also that most of its employees were challenged. The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually challenged person was recruited there. After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro, Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates. Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its sheer bull shit. Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into those jobs. And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their knowledge and networking. Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their respective domains. For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a whole. If our education systems are non-inclusive, then its not fair to blame the individual for not possessing good linguistic skills, or the so called soft skills, most of the schools being regional in nature, even in relatively bigger cities. Let us not generalise our ideas on the basis of a very small sample, where the ground reality is completely different. May be that, the so called HR managers and the top management, comprising of the best brains from B-schools, lack the skill sets in valuation, which they think they are good at. Its all about finding value, and if someone is not able to find any value in something, then its his/her incompetence as well as the product itself. If I have been created differently, then why I should be equated with my non-peers and rated on the same scale. Competence/incompetence is highly relative. Jairam Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Could not agree more!!! -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jairam Balasubramanian Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms At Srinivasu If we are talking about individual company names, one company named Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company and also that most of its employees were challenged. The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually challenged person was recruited there. After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro, Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates. Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its sheer bull shit. Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into those jobs. And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their knowledge and networking. Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their respective domains. For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a whole. If our education systems are non-inclusive, then its not fair to blame the individual for not possessing good linguistic skills, or the so called soft skills, most of the schools being regional in nature, even in relatively bigger cities. Let us not generalise our ideas on the basis of a very small sample, where the ground reality is completely different. May be that, the so called HR managers and the top management, comprising of the best brains from B-schools, lack the skill sets in valuation, which they think they are good at. Its all about finding value, and if someone is not able to find any value in something, then its his/her incompetence as well as the product itself. If I have been created differently, then why I should be equated with my non-peers and rated on the same scale. Competence/incompetence is highly relative. Jairam Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
At Srinivasu If we are talking about individual company names, one company named Lazer soft in Chennai, claimed to have been equal opportunity company and also that most of its employees were challenged. The company was specialising in development of softwares for banking space, and when I went in for interview, not a single visually challenged person was recruited there. After my qualification as CA in 2006, my experiences at the campus recruitments in ICAI with companies like Goldman Sacks, BPCL, Wipro, Infosys, L&T, etc have been clearly an evidence of the reluctance of the HR managers to recruit visually challenged candidates. Do we mean to say that any VI person who have'nt been able to land up into a job into the corporate world, lacks the requisite skills, its sheer bull shit. Only a handfull of us, have been able to land up into good jobs, and based on that, we can't conclude that no-one else possesses the requisite skills. And also that , we better know how we landed up into those jobs. And about the skill sets, hiring a candidate from IIM or such premier institutes does not require any great boasting up of the companies of having been an inclusive organisation, as it constitutes only a meagre percentage, and also that they would anyways get placed due to their knowledge and networking. Barring a few on this list itself, I don't think there are many of us who are highly Tech savy or people who have total expertees in their respective domains. For that matter, any fresher or even experienced persons may necessarily not be having indepth understanding of the industry as a whole. If our education systems are non-inclusive, then its not fair to blame the individual for not possessing good linguistic skills, or the so called soft skills, most of the schools being regional in nature, even in relatively bigger cities. Let us not generalise our ideas on the basis of a very small sample, where the ground reality is completely different. May be that, the so called HR managers and the top management, comprising of the best brains from B-schools, lack the skill sets in valuation, which they think they are good at. Its all about finding value, and if someone is not able to find any value in something, then its his/her incompetence as well as the product itself. If I have been created differently, then why I should be equated with my non-peers and rated on the same scale. Competence/incompetence is highly relative. Jairam Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
SSirnivasu Nobody would state so. things are no sosimple or logical as you would have us believe. Dnials and discriminations are too subtle to be easily spotted. Even in government, it is the case. For instance, please read the following extract of advertisement of the great university of Mumbai. All other universities in great state of Maharashtra have been doing so... Here it is: "The following post of disabilities are covered under physically handicapped. Partially sighted / Low Vision (PS/LV) Partially Deaf (PD) One leg affected (OL) One Arm Affected (OA) Out of the above posts, 3 posts (Professors-1, Associate Professors-1, Assistant Professors-1) are reserved for physically handicapped with minimum 40% disabilities subject to availability/suitability. Qualifications andpay scales as prescribed by the UGC./State Government" Can you tell me what it means? -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:14 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi wrote: > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do > companies recruit totally blind people. > > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi wrote: >> There are so many, many companies who do so. >> >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org wrote: >>> Amit, >>> >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they >>> meet >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any >>> company would do that. >>> >>> Srinivasu >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: >>> >>>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >>>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >>>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >>>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Amit Bhatt >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >>>> >>>> To: "Access India" >>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >>>> firms >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Renuka, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a >>>>> lot >>>>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do >>>>> not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the >>>>> potential >>>>> of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been >>>>> forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or >>>>> career >>>>> opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition >>>>> such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I >>>>> hope >>>>> they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to >>>>> implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that >>>>> thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. >>>>> Everyone >>>>> gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after >>>>> that?? >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many >>>>> who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. >>>>> >>>>> Mujtaba Merchant >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Hello Members, There is no denying the facts that the ratio of visually disabled people being employed either in the IT, BPO or any other sector is very low. I came across this company in Bangalore that claimed that 90% of their staff is differently enabled, on further probing them I found out that none of the disabled employed there are visually disabled! You might want to check out their site below. No doubt that there is some hope for other disabled categories thanks to companies like these. But a visually disabled person is left clueless about his future as far as his career and employment opportunities is concerned. What I would really like to see in the future is that companies having a career driven training for the visually impaired and then absorbing them internally based on their performance during the training. Not a very cost effective move, but the government can pitch in this support structure. It would be like asking for the cake and eating it too by requesting counselling after a visually impaired person has completed a level of education to what jobs he/she could train for and what are the job options for them. I should be running for president somewhere by now - Just Joking! Below is the link to the company website and another link to an article talking about this company both a good read and visit. Also, would like the employed list members to share their set of challenges with jobs like how did they bag them and what were the hurdles they faced getting where they are now. This will help other members to prepare for the job hunt ride. Link to the company website: http://www.vindhyainfo.com/ Link to the article: http://pcworld.about.net/od/softwareservices/In-Bangalore-a-BPO-With-a-Hea.htm - Original Message - From: Amit Bhatt To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Mujtaba Merchant Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms Dear Srini, Agreeing or disagreeing cannot change the facts and reality. Today, the fact is that companies prefer to hire the people with other disabilities rather than employing a visually impaired. You and I, and some other have been working in corporate/private secter, that is true, but this practice by the private employers is not discernible at the large scale in general, even though there is a much development for us from the career prospective in the present scenario. Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: "li...@srinivasu.org" To: Cc: ; "Mujtaba Merchant" Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms > Amit, > > Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they > meet all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think > any company would do that. > > Srinivasu > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: > >> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >> >> Regards, >> >> Amit Bhatt >> - Original Message ----- From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >> >> To: "Access India" >> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >> firms >> >> >>> Hello Renuka, >>> >>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a >>> lot of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I >>> do not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the >>> potential of employing the disabled? This is something that could have >>> been forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or >>> career opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to >>> transition such members on board their staff. However, this is great >>> news and I hope they will action it faster than we think. I am still >>> waiting for SBI to implement those 500 ATM's across India for the >>> disabled, I think that thought went down the bin after their day ended >>> with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and encouragement but what >>> is actioned after that?? >>> >>> Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Mindset required to be changed from both of the side, not only from us. Putting responsibility for job hunt and career augmentation only on candidates part seems to be gravely irrational and hypothetical analysis. If I am working for so long in a corporate sector, that doesn't mean that the purpose is fulfilled and everyone got the opportunities. There are many skilled Visually Challenged people who have not been hired by the employers just because these employers have not changed their mindset. I agree, the strategy of job search remains same for the blind and sighted but the opportunities need to be brought extensively. The scenario you are talking is well suits in case of a sighted job seeker but it really doesn't work in our case. If the job hunt was made so much easier for us, then there wouldn't have any problems, and majority of the blind should have been on jobs but on a practicle ground, it is not the case. Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" To: Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms Sorry, I don't think, I would agree that. In my opinion, no matter if the applicant is VI or other, no one call them to apply for a job. It's candidates responsibility to hunt for openings and apply, if the meet the eligibility. Then, if employer refuses on the grounds on the disability or VI, is right thing to question. I don't think, anyone on the list who approached industry with required skill set has ever denied opportunity unless if there is a mismatch in eligibility. Friends, sorry, but not just the industry, but everyone needs to change the mindset. If we compare way back five to ten years ago, now the scenario has much changed. I remember, there were discussions a few years ago, where folks reported that, they were called for interview, but when they reached that particular office, they were asked to leave. But today, that's not the scenario. Sorry, if I hurt anyone's sentiments, but this is as well the reality. Thanks, -Srinivasu On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Lalit Yadav wrote: No company stated clearly that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility. But infect it is true that only very very few company hire blind people even VI people. It is ground reality. Best Regards, Lalit Yadav From: "li...@srinivasu.org" <li...@srinivasu.org> Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:25 To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Cc: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do > companies recruit totally blind people. > > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> There are so many, many companies who do so. >> >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>> Amit, >>> >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they >>> meet >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any >>> company would do that. >>> >>> Srinivasu >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" & lt;misterbh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >>>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >>>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >>>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Amit Bhatt >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >>>> <mujta...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Access India" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >>>> firms >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Renuka, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a >>>>> lot >>>>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO secto
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Whether you personally agree or not won't change the current ground reality nor is there any point in Naming a few companies where as barring just a few of them the majority don't have a single blind employee especially totally blind. Their reluctance is to recruit those who are totally dependant on screen readers, not those who can manage without screen readers like srinivasu. And obviously, in the PWD era no one would make this a stated policy. If you are far removed from the reality you'd better make a small survey yourself or talk to those like shanti or anubhuti mittal who are trying to help the qualified blind people find job in the corporate sector. Then you'll immediately get to know the ground reality and realise how true what we have been expressing. On 12/3/11, VIVEK KAVYA wrote: > job discrimination is not only in private sector but also in public > sector. only after agitation of NFB and AICB many VI started getting > in government sector. many colleges in delhi university before > refused jobs to VI persons old JNU students > know well after high court decision in 2006 many persons entered in > delhi university. NGOs should take initiative to enter VI persons to > private sector. > > On 12/2/11, Renuka Warriar wrote: >> Source: >> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2679583.ece >> Bangalore, December 2, 2011 >> 2,000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms >> Staff Reporter >> >> >> Initiative to facilitate recruitment of one lakh such people in five years >> For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation; >> Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of >> Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday. >> For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation; >> Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of >> Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday. >> >> NASSCOM Foundation and the Wadhwani Foundation have come together with >> the aim of placing 2,000 young people with disabilities in IT and BPO >> companies across the country within the next two years. >> >> This will be the first step in their “accessibility initiative” to >> facilitate the recruitment of one lakh people with disabilities in the >> next five years, said Ajay Kela, president and CEO of Wadhwani >> Foundation. >> >> He added that the initiative was seen as a business value proposition >> and not as part of corporate social responsibility. Mr. Kela added >> that India had a talent pool of two to three million people with >> disabilities. >> >> Talent pool >> >> “Corporate India can derive better business value in terms of higher >> productivity, reduced attrition and lowered training costs by >> employing this proven and tenacious talent pool,” he said. >> >> The average employment rate of people with disabilities in the private >> sector is only 0.28 per and in the public sector it is 0.54 per cent, >> although the proportion of such people in the country exceeds 6 per >> cent. >> >> Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation, said that accessibility was not >> just about making the workplace physically accessible for a person in >> wheelchair; it is about creating an “inclusive ecosystem”. >> >> The Accessibility Initiative is founded on a four-fold approach: a >> leadership commitment, robust policies, capability building, and >> creating an enabling culture in the organisation. >> >> “The aim is to reach every level within an organisation from the top >> leadership to middle management to the average employee in order to >> bring about change in policy, change practices and a change in the >> behaviour and mindset of the average employee towards disability,” Ms. >> Soni said. >> >> Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM, said that the foundation approached >> the issue as a business imperative as well as a “rights-based” agenda. >> >> “We realised the importance of broadening the diversity agenda to >> include people with disabilities.” >> >> Comments to : web.thehi...@thehindu.co.in Copyright © 2011, The Hindu >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-a
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Dear Srini, Agreeing or disagreeing cannot change the facts and reality. Today, the fact is that companies prefer to hire the people with other disabilities rather than employing a visually impaired. You and I, and some other have been working in corporate/private secter, that is true, but this practice by the private employers is not discernible at the large scale in general, even though there is a much development for us from the career prospective in the present scenario. Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: "li...@srinivasu.org" To: Cc: ; "Mujtaba Merchant" Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms Amit, Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they meet all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any company would do that. Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" To: "Access India" Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms Hello Renuka, Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I hope they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after that?? Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. Mujtaba Merchant Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Dear Srini, all, Undoubtedly, the scenario has changed for the Visually Impaired people over the last decade in India not in the vicinity of jobs but almost in every aspect for that matter, however, the reality still remains far away and the factual condition is not as easy as you are thinking. Many of the employers may not refuse you in direct expression but as many of us have said, people are still reluctant in hiring the people with vision impairment. Do you know? Aegis Global, a wel known company working World Wide, having around 600 disabled people in various offices of it's branch, has yet not recruited any blind applicant. This is what I have come to know from their HR officials couple of days back when I had words with them. Although they don't say that we do not want to hire you, but the picture is Chrystal-clear and self-explanatory, a company already hired more than 600 people but no visually impaired? This is the present scenario when we are saying that the time has been changed now! I had words with many other organizations on numerous occasions and got very casual response, "sorry currently we have no suitable post available for Vi's, we would update you as soon as we come across any job for the blind." Well it is not a debatable issue since we cannot change the facts and ground reality by our arguments but if required, I can also endeavor to explain the possible reasons that why companies do not prefer the people with blindness in general when they hire the disabled. I don't believe on those big shows and presentation in which the Corporate people come and fulfil their corporate social responsibility. Plenties of job fairs are organized, seminars are conducted but their result is not that productive and substantial. In a recently organized job fair, I happened to meet some company HR people, I was interviewd to know my capability. What instant answer I received from them? "Amit, the things we have found good with you but we generally do not give this much of salary for the post of Team Leader. We will consider your case if we do have any plan in the future." Yes, I was applying for TL and generally what remuneration I was asking is well given to Team Leaders in the corporate industry. So, it is possible that they would not deny the opportunities to you directly, but then they may have several other excuses to avoid the blind applicants. Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: "li...@srinivasu.org" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi wrote: In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do companies recruit totally blind people. On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi wrote: There are so many, many companies who do so. On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org wrote: Amit, Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they meet all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any company would do that. Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" To: "Access India" Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms Hello Renuka, Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I hope they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after that?? Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. Mujtaba Merchant Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe
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job discrimination is not only in private sector but also in public sector. only after agitation of NFB and AICB many VI started getting in government sector. many colleges in delhi university before refused jobs to VI persons old JNU students know well after high court decision in 2006 many persons entered in delhi university. NGOs should take initiative to enter VI persons to private sector. On 12/2/11, Renuka Warriar wrote: > Source: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article2679583.ece > Bangalore, December 2, 2011 > 2,000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms > Staff Reporter > > > Initiative to facilitate recruitment of one lakh such people in five years > For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation; > Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of > Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday. > For inclusive growth: (From left) Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation; > Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM; and Ajay Kela, president and CEO of > Wadhwani Foundation, addressing presspersons in Bangalore on Thursday. > > NASSCOM Foundation and the Wadhwani Foundation have come together with > the aim of placing 2,000 young people with disabilities in IT and BPO > companies across the country within the next two years. > > This will be the first step in their “accessibility initiative” to > facilitate the recruitment of one lakh people with disabilities in the > next five years, said Ajay Kela, president and CEO of Wadhwani > Foundation. > > He added that the initiative was seen as a business value proposition > and not as part of corporate social responsibility. Mr. Kela added > that India had a talent pool of two to three million people with > disabilities. > > Talent pool > > “Corporate India can derive better business value in terms of higher > productivity, reduced attrition and lowered training costs by > employing this proven and tenacious talent pool,” he said. > > The average employment rate of people with disabilities in the private > sector is only 0.28 per and in the public sector it is 0.54 per cent, > although the proportion of such people in the country exceeds 6 per > cent. > > Rita Soni, CEO, NASSCOM Foundation, said that accessibility was not > just about making the workplace physically accessible for a person in > wheelchair; it is about creating an “inclusive ecosystem”. > > The Accessibility Initiative is founded on a four-fold approach: a > leadership commitment, robust policies, capability building, and > creating an enabling culture in the organisation. > > “The aim is to reach every level within an organisation from the top > leadership to middle management to the average employee in order to > bring about change in policy, change practices and a change in the > behaviour and mindset of the average employee towards disability,” Ms. > Soni said. > > Som Mittal, president of NASSCOM, said that the foundation approached > the issue as a business imperative as well as a “rights-based” agenda. > > “We realised the importance of broadening the diversity agenda to > include people with disabilities.” > > Comments to : web.thehi...@thehindu.co.in Copyright © 2011, The Hindu > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Shadab, Sorry, I neither said VIs don't have ability nor I said we are not potential. When you say HRs are instructed by the top management that not to hire VI. Which is that company? Only having the name, it's possible to investigate and sensitize them to hire eligible VI candidates. Yes, we can't generalize the statement when a X company is at fault. Tell me the scenario where VI is denied employment on disability and I shall be happy to talk to them provided candidate should be willing to cooperate and provide all necessary data during the process. Thanks, Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Shadab Husain wrote: > Hi Srinivasu, > > Naming a company would be of no use because we won't be able to prove > their discrimination, and defamation proceedings can be initiated > against the whistle blower. HRs are instructed by the top brass not to > recruit any visually impaired in the special recruitment drives that > are in vogue. Thinking out of the box is not the wont of these > traditional companies. Generalised statements are not entirely > correct, but the blind have enough potential and ability to prove > themselves. > > Regards, Shadab > > On 12/3/11, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote: >> Sorry, I don't think, I would agree that. In my opinion, no matter if the >> applicant is VI or other, no one call them to apply for a job. It's >> candidates responsibility to hunt for openings and apply, if the meet the >> eligibility. Then, if employer refuses on the grounds on the disability or >> VI, is right thing to question. >> >> I don't think, anyone on the list who approached industry with required >> skill set has ever denied opportunity unless if there is a mismatch in >> eligibility. >> >> Friends, sorry, but not just the industry, but everyone needs to change the >> mindset. If we compare way back five to ten years ago, now the scenario has >> much changed. I remember, there were discussions a few years ago, where >> folks reported that, they were called for interview, but when they reached >> that particular office, they were asked to leave. But today, that's not the >> scenario. >> >> Sorry, if I hurt anyone's sentiments, but this is as well the reality. >> >> Thanks, >> -Srinivasu >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Lalit Yadav >> wrote: >> >>> No company stated clearly that they would not employ totally blind in >>> spite meeting the eligibility. >>> But infect it is true that only very very few company hire blind people >>> even VI people. >>> It is ground reality. >>> Best Regards, >>> Lalit Yadav >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "li...@srinivasu.org" <li...@srinivasu.org> >>> Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:25 >>> To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> > >>> Cc: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO >>> firms >>> Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ >>> totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? >>> >>> >>> >>> Srinivasu >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi >>> <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do >>> >>> > companies recruit totally blind people. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> There are so many, many companies who do so. >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Amit, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment >>> when they >>> >>> >>> meet >>> >>> >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't >>> think any >>> >>> >>> company would do that. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Srinivasu >>&
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Hi Srinivasu, Naming a company would be of no use because we won't be able to prove their discrimination, and defamation proceedings can be initiated against the whistle blower. HRs are instructed by the top brass not to recruit any visually impaired in the special recruitment drives that are in vogue. Thinking out of the box is not the wont of these traditional companies. Generalised statements are not entirely correct, but the blind have enough potential and ability to prove themselves. Regards, Shadab On 12/3/11, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote: > Sorry, I don't think, I would agree that. In my opinion, no matter if the > applicant is VI or other, no one call them to apply for a job. It's > candidates responsibility to hunt for openings and apply, if the meet the > eligibility. Then, if employer refuses on the grounds on the disability or > VI, is right thing to question. > > I don't think, anyone on the list who approached industry with required > skill set has ever denied opportunity unless if there is a mismatch in > eligibility. > > Friends, sorry, but not just the industry, but everyone needs to change the > mindset. If we compare way back five to ten years ago, now the scenario has > much changed. I remember, there were discussions a few years ago, where > folks reported that, they were called for interview, but when they reached > that particular office, they were asked to leave. But today, that's not the > scenario. > > Sorry, if I hurt anyone's sentiments, but this is as well the reality. > > Thanks, > -Srinivasu > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Lalit Yadav > wrote: > >> No company stated clearly that they would not employ totally blind in >> spite meeting the eligibility. >> But infect it is true that only very very few company hire blind people >> even VI people. >> It is ground reality. >> Best Regards, >> Lalit Yadav >> >> >> >> >> >> From: "li...@srinivasu.org" <li...@srinivasu.org> >> Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:25 >> To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > >> Cc: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> > >> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO >> firms >> Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ >> totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? >> >> >> >> Srinivasu >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi >> <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do >> >> > companies recruit totally blind people. >> >> > >> >> > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> There are so many, many companies who do so. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Amit, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment >> when they >> >> >>> meet >> >> >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't >> think any >> >> >>> company would do that. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Srinivasu >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" & >> lt;misterbh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be >> seen that how >> >> >>>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I >> know some >> >> >>>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than >> 500 disabled >> >> >>>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Regards, >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Amit Bhatt >> >> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >> >> >>>> <mujta...@gmail.com> >> >> >>>> To: "Access India" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 0
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Agreed with Srini.. Heard from some friends that they are asked to leave before the interview stating that the company is not recruiting persons with disabilities.. But now it is not the case. On 03-12-2011 10:54, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote: Sorry, I don't think, I would agree that. In my opinion, no matter if the applicant is VI or other, no one call them to apply for a job. It's candidates responsibility to hunt for openings and apply, if the meet the eligibility. Then, if employer refuses on the grounds on the disability or VI, is right thing to question. I don't think, anyone on the list who approached industry with required skill set has ever denied opportunity unless if there is a mismatch in eligibility. Friends, sorry, but not just the industry, but everyone needs to change the mindset. If we compare way back five to ten years ago, now the scenario has much changed. I remember, there were discussions a few years ago, where folks reported that, they were called for interview, but when they reached that particular office, they were asked to leave. But today, that's not the scenario. Sorry, if I hurt anyone's sentiments, but this is as well the reality. Thanks, -Srinivasu On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Lalit Yadav wrote: No company stated clearly that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility. But infect it is true that only very very few company hire blind people even VI people. It is ground reality. Best Regards, Lalit Yadav From: "li...@srinivasu.org"<li...@srinivasu.org> Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:25 To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in"<accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Cc: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in"<accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi<allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do > companies recruit totally blind people. > > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi<allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> There are so many, many companies who do so. >> >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org<li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>> Amit, >>> >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they >>> meet >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any >>> company would do that. >>> >>> Srinivasu >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt"& lt;misterbh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >>>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >>>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >>>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Amit Bhatt >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >>>><mujta...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Access India"<accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >>>> firms >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Renuka, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a >>>>> lot >>>>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do >>>>> not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the >>>>> potential >>>>> of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been >>>>> forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or >>>>> career >>>>> opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition >>>>> such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I >>>>> hope >>>>> they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to >>>>> implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that >>>>> thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. >>>>> Everyone >>>>> gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after >&g
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Sorry, I don't think, I would agree that. In my opinion, no matter if the applicant is VI or other, no one call them to apply for a job. It's candidates responsibility to hunt for openings and apply, if the meet the eligibility. Then, if employer refuses on the grounds on the disability or VI, is right thing to question. I don't think, anyone on the list who approached industry with required skill set has ever denied opportunity unless if there is a mismatch in eligibility. Friends, sorry, but not just the industry, but everyone needs to change the mindset. If we compare way back five to ten years ago, now the scenario has much changed. I remember, there were discussions a few years ago, where folks reported that, they were called for interview, but when they reached that particular office, they were asked to leave. But today, that's not the scenario. Sorry, if I hurt anyone's sentiments, but this is as well the reality. Thanks, -Srinivasu On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Lalit Yadav wrote: > No company stated clearly that they would not employ totally blind in > spite meeting the eligibility. > But infect it is true that only very very few company hire blind people > even VI people. > It is ground reality. > Best Regards, > Lalit Yadav > > > > > > From: "li...@srinivasu.org" <li...@srinivasu.org> > Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:25 > To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > Cc: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > > Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO > firms > Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ > totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? > > > > Srinivasu > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do > > > companies recruit totally blind people. > > > > > > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> There are so many, many companies who do so. > > >> > > >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> > wrote: > > >>> Amit, > > >>> > > >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment > when they > > >>> meet > > >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't > think any > > >>> company would do that. > > >>> > > >>> Srinivasu > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>> > > >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" & > lt;misterbh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be > seen that how > > >>>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I > know some > > >>>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than > 500 disabled > > >>>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! > > >>>> > > >>>> Regards, > > >>>> > > >>>> Amit Bhatt > > >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" > > >>>> <mujta...@gmail.com> > > >>>> To: "Access India" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM > > >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get > jobs in IT,BPO > > >>>> firms > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hello Renuka, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your > mail. There is a > > >>>>> lot > > >>>>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for > the disabled. I do > > >>>>> not understand why they have taken so much time to > realise the > > >>>>> potential > > >>>>> of employing the disabled? This is something that > could have been > > >>>>> forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of > such job or > > >>>>> career > > >>>>> opportunities, it would make it easier for the > employers to transition > > >>>>> such members on board their sta
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
No company stated clearly that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility. But infect it is true that only very very few company hire blind people even VI people. It is ground reality. Best Regards, Lalit Yadav From: "li...@srinivasu.org" <li...@srinivasu.org> Sent: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:46:25 To: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Cc: "accessindia@accessindia.org.in" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do > companies recruit totally blind people. > > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi <allarakhi.allarakh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> There are so many, many companies who do so. >> >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>> Amit, >>> >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they >>> meet >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any >>> company would do that. >>> >>> Srinivasu >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" <misterbh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >>>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >>>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >>>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Amit Bhatt >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >>>> <mujta...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Access India" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >>>> firms >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Renuka, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a >>>>> lot >>>>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do >>>>> not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the >>>>> potential >>>>> of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been >>>>> forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or >>>>> career >>>>> opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition >>>>> such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I >>>>> hope >>>>> they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to >>>>> implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that >>>>> thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. >>>>> Everyone >>>>> gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after >>>>> that?? >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many >>>>> who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. >>>>> >>>>> Mujtaba Merchant >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the s
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Can you please name the companies who stated that they would not employ totally blind in spite meeting the eligibility? Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:29 AM, Alla rakhi wrote: > In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do > companies recruit totally blind people. > > On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi wrote: >> There are so many, many companies who do so. >> >> On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org wrote: >>> Amit, >>> >>> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they >>> meet >>> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any >>> company would do that. >>> >>> Srinivasu >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: >>> >>>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >>>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >>>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >>>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Amit Bhatt >>>> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >>>> >>>> To: "Access India" >>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >>>> firms >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Renuka, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a >>>>> lot >>>>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do >>>>> not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the >>>>> potential >>>>> of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been >>>>> forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or >>>>> career >>>>> opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition >>>>> such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I >>>>> hope >>>>> they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to >>>>> implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that >>>>> thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. >>>>> Everyone >>>>> gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after >>>>> that?? >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many >>>>> who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. >>>>> >>>>> Mujtaba Merchant >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >> > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
In fact barring a few companies countable on fingers, hardly do companies recruit totally blind people. On 12/3/11, Alla rakhi wrote: > There are so many, many companies who do so. > > On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org wrote: >> Amit, >> >> Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they >> meet >> all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any >> company would do that. >> >> Srinivasu >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: >> >>> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >>> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >>> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >>> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Amit Bhatt >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >>> >>> To: "Access India" >>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >>> firms >>> >>> >>>> Hello Renuka, >>>> >>>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a >>>> lot >>>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do >>>> not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the >>>> potential >>>> of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been >>>> forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or >>>> career >>>> opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition >>>> such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I >>>> hope >>>> they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to >>>> implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that >>>> thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. >>>> Everyone >>>> gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after >>>> that?? >>>> >>>> Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many >>>> who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. >>>> >>>> Mujtaba Merchant >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
There are so many, many companies who do so. On 12/2/11, li...@srinivasu.org wrote: > Amit, > > Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they meet > all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any > company would do that. > > Srinivasu > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: > >> The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how >> many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some >> companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled >> employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! >> >> Regards, >> >> Amit Bhatt >> - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" >> To: "Access India" >> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO >> firms >> >> >>> Hello Renuka, >>> >>> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot >>> of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do >>> not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential >>> of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been >>> forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career >>> opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition >>> such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I hope >>> they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to >>> implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that >>> thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. Everyone >>> gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after that?? >>> >>> Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many >>> who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. >>> >>> Mujtaba Merchant >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Amit, Did you come across any company that deny to offer employment when they meet all required criteria and have all necessary skills? I don't think any company would do that. Srinivasu Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:07 PM, "Amit Bhatt" wrote: > The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how many > Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some companies and > their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled employees but nun of > them is a blind candidate! > > Regards, > > Amit Bhatt > - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" > To: "Access India" > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms > > >> Hello Renuka, >> >> Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot of >> scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do not >> understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential of >> employing the disabled? This is something that could have been forseen. If >> the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career opportunities, >> it would make it easier for the employers to transition such members on >> board their staff. However, this is great news and I hope they will action >> it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to implement those 500 >> ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that thought went down the bin >> after their day ended with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and >> encouragement but what is actioned after that?? >> >> Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many who >> feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. >> >> Mujtaba Merchant >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
The news is indeed great but the interesting thing to be seen that how many Visually Impaired candidates get the opportunity. I know some companies and their people who clamed to hire more than 500 disabled employees but nun of them is a blind candidate! Regards, Amit Bhatt - Original Message - From: "Mujtaba Merchant" To: "Access India" Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT,BPO firms Hello Renuka, Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I hope they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after that?? Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. Mujtaba Merchant Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] 2, 000 people with disabilities to get jobs in IT, BPO firms
Hello Renuka, Thanks for sharing this valuable information in your mail. There is a lot of scope in employment in the IT and BPO sector for the disabled. I do not understand why they have taken so much time to realise the potential of employing the disabled? This is something that could have been forseen. If the disabled are mentored on the lines of such job or career opportunities, it would make it easier for the employers to transition such members on board their staff. However, this is great news and I hope they will action it faster than we think. I am still waiting for SBI to implement those 500 ATM's across India for the disabled, I think that thought went down the bin after their day ended with the press. Everyone gives us great hopes and encouragement but what is actioned after that?? Sorry if this email sounded blunt, but like me I am sure there are many who feel this way but are shy to express their feelings publicly. Mujtaba Merchant Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
