Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-28 Thread Umesha Economics
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Really I do not understand the double 
standard of these people. once the moderator says to everyone to stop blaming 
one another and another person says "OK, thats right" and in another mail he 
continues the same bad habit. if that is the case, what is the significance of 
moderator's comment? is it the respect that we give to his decision? 

Umesha

  - Original Message - 
  From: P. Subramani 
  To: Umesha Economics ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012 10:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  First thing is you have business to talk about my quitting the group. As your 
abilities are exhausted,  pleading with the moderator is the last resort.
- Original Message - 
From: Umesha Economics 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
    Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Dear moderator,
I think you must take some action in this case. it has crossed its limits.
let him quit the list and let us see all the others will leave the list as
he said.

Umesha

- Original Message -
From: "P. Subramani" 
To: "harish" ; 
Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although this group is not the
> ultimate, since it is storehouse, hence people come here for needful.
> Asking me to leave the group is  the other way of kicking me out of the
> group which is not expected from you  with the stature of being  the
> moderator. Rather than examining the matter impartially,  your solutions
> seems to be to throwout people.  You seem to be narrow-minded in saying
> the problem broughtout by me is the concern of only  me as an individual
> alone. This matter concerns the entire community which you haven't taken
> into consideration  and if the whole community fails to get solutions,
> then all must leave the group. You are definitely partial to some with
> their outbursts and pointing out mine. Since I  initiated this discussion,
> I shall have the last word. This threat should remain open for positive
> contributions.
>  - Original Message -
>  From: harish
>  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
    >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>  Hi All
>
>  Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her
> own
>  will.
>
>  At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
>  for all problems of the disabled.
>
>  This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
> at
>  any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
>
>  You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
>  putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
>  certainly helps.
>
>  All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
>  outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
>  expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
>
>  May we now put to rest this deviation?
>
>  Harish Kotian
    >
    >  - Original Message -
>  From: "P. Subramani" 
>  To: "Umesha Economics" ;
>  
>  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
>  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
>  > mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
> arms
>  > against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
> doesn't
>  > indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of
>  > why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as
>  > the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail
> is
>  > very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help.
>  > Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what
> about
>  > those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments
> that
>  > all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of the
> issue.
>  > Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the
>  > delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary
> button
>  > and hence I 

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-28 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!First thing is you have business to talk 
about my quitting the group. As your abilities are exhausted,  pleading with 
the moderator is the last resort.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Umesha Economics 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 7:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  Dear moderator,
  I think you must take some action in this case. it has crossed its limits.
  let him quit the list and let us see all the others will leave the list as
  he said.

  Umesha

  - Original Message -
  From: "P. Subramani" 
  To: "harish" ; 
  Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although this group is not the
  > ultimate, since it is storehouse, hence people come here for needful.
  > Asking me to leave the group is  the other way of kicking me out of the
  > group which is not expected from you  with the stature of being  the
  > moderator. Rather than examining the matter impartially,  your solutions
  > seems to be to throwout people.  You seem to be narrow-minded in saying
  > the problem broughtout by me is the concern of only  me as an individual
  > alone. This matter concerns the entire community which you haven't taken
  > into consideration  and if the whole community fails to get solutions,
  > then all must leave the group. You are definitely partial to some with
  > their outbursts and pointing out mine. Since I  initiated this discussion,
  > I shall have the last word. This threat should remain open for positive
  > contributions.
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: harish
  >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >  Hi All
  >
  >  Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her
  > own
  >  will.
  >
  >  At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
  >  for all problems of the disabled.
  >
  >  This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
  > at
  >  any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
  >
  >  You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
  >  putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
  >  certainly helps.
  >
  >  All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
  >  outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
  >  expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
  >
  >  May we now put to rest this deviation?
  >
  >  Harish Kotian
  >
  >  - Original Message -
  >  From: "P. Subramani" 
  >  To: "Umesha Economics" ;
  >  
  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
  >  > mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
  > arms
  >  > against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
  > doesn't
  >  > indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of
  >  > why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as
  >  > the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail
  > is
  >  > very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help.
  >  > Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what
  > about
  >  > those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments
  > that
  >  > all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of the
  > issue.
  >  > Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the
  >  > delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary
  > button
  >  > and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not
  >  > the person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main
  >  > issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them.
  >  > Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely and understand as
  >  > well.
  >  >  - Original Message -
  >  >  From: Umesha Economics
  >  >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >  >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
  >  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  dear friends,
  >  >  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you
  > to
  >  >  modify the first

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-27 Thread Umesha Economics

Dear moderator,
I think you must take some action in this case. it has crossed its limits. 
let him quit the list and let us see all the others will leave the list as 
he said.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani" 

To: "harish" ; 
Sent: Monday, 27 February, 2012 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although this group is not the 
ultimate, since it is storehouse, hence people come here for needful. 
Asking me to leave the group is  the other way of kicking me out of the 
group which is not expected from you  with the stature of being  the 
moderator. Rather than examining the matter impartially,  your solutions 
seems to be to throwout people.  You seem to be narrow-minded in saying 
the problem broughtout by me is the concern of only  me as an individual 
alone. This matter concerns the entire community which you haven't taken 
into consideration  and if the whole community fails to get solutions, 
then all must leave the group. You are definitely partial to some with 
their outbursts and pointing out mine. Since I  initiated this discussion, 
I shall have the last word. This threat should remain open for positive 
contributions.
 - Original Message - 
 From: harish

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 Hi All

 Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her 
own

 will.

 At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
 for all problems of the disabled.

 This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up 
at

 any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.

 You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
 putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
 certainly helps.

 All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
 outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
 expectation levels, you need not continue with it.

 May we now put to rest this deviation?

 Harish Kotian

 - Original Message -
 From: "P. Subramani" 
 To: "Umesha Economics" ;
 
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
 > mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in 
arms
 > against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline 
doesn't

 > indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of
 > why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as
 > the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail 
is

 > very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help.
 > Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what 
about
 > those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments 
that
 > all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of the 
issue.

 > Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the
 > delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary 
button

 > and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not
 > the person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main
 > issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them.
 > Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely and understand as
 > well.
 >  - Original Message -
 >  From: Umesha Economics
 >  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 >  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
 >  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
 >
 >
 >  dear friends,
 >  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you 
to

 >  modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from
 > 11:50
 >  am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message 
body

 >  and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments,
 > there
 >  may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
 >  problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up 
to

 > the
 >  real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry 
any
 >  message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current 
burning
 >  problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the 
subject

 >  line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not
 > interests
 >  them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not
 > clear.
 >  whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you
 > found
 >  out some thing about rules. did you find all t

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-27 Thread mahendra

sorry, Harish, i didn't find Sanjays email in this thred,
Sanjay, your computer is showing wrong year, it is showing
year 2002. may be your computer battry has problem.
At 07:10 PM 2/27/2012, you wrote:

Hi Vivek,

Since you have quoted my example, let me answer it.   In that case,
one of our own legal expert, Mr. Rajesh Asudani helped that person in
guiding him to the right channel.  That person got the job by
following the advice.



On 2/27/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!you are absolutely right, there seems
> groups within the larger group.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: sanjay
>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:04 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>   AS per my observations, unless you are personally/virtually known to many
>   people in a particular group, no matter how important the subject you
> raise,
>   your mails may not get the amount of attention as per your expectations.
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-27 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!If your answers/arguments (strong) are 
genuent, surely, thoses can be brought to the list irrespective to the 
moderator's rulings. If you don't have time, why do you  send such replies.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Umesha Economics 
  To: Access India ; P. Subramani 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  I have strong answers to all of your arguments. but I don't want to answer 
because of 2 reasons. 1. I have no time for arguing for unproductive things and 
convincing the insensitive minds. 2. the moderator has given his ruling and it 
would be inappropriate on my part if I overrule his statement. I request the 
moderator to excuse me if I have violated the rules. 

  Umesha



- Original Message - 
From: P. Subramani 
To: Umesha Economics ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 5:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


these are just vague excuses. By mistake, someone posts an off-topic 
matter, most if not all are up in arms against the poster. I don't agree with 
the notion that subjectline doesn't indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic 
mails can catch the attention of why not a mail routed   through the moderator? 
Subjectline is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules 
thereon. Also my mail is very clear and his age was mentioned as more details 
would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, 
what about those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's 
comments that all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of 
the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of 
the delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary button 
and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not the 
person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main issue.  I 
shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them. Moreover,  you have 
failed to read my mail completely and understand as well.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Umesha Economics 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  dear friends,
  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
  modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50
  am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body
  and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, 
there
  may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
  problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to 
the
  real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
  message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
  problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject
  line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not interests
  them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not clear.
  whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you 
found
  out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
  govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through RTI
  or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
  person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? 
or
  you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the late
  age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
  other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they
  want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will
  not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in
  their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only
  if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not
  reply to every message.

  so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they
  are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with 
knowledge
  and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have 
seen
  no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator is
  nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but other
  than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
  among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other 
blind.
  this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
  serious and I do not deny that. but before makin

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-27 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi Vivek,

Since you have quoted my example, let me answer it.   In that case,
one of our own legal expert, Mr. Rajesh Asudani helped that person in
guiding him to the right channel.  That person got the job by
following the advice.



On 2/27/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!you are absolutely right, there seems
> groups within the larger group.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: sanjay
>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:04 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>   AS per my observations, unless you are personally/virtually known to many
>   people in a particular group, no matter how important the subject you
> raise,
>   your mails may not get the amount of attention as per your expectations.
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-27 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!you are absolutely right, there seems groups 
within the larger group.
  - Original Message - 
  From: sanjay 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 4:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  AS per my observations, unless you are personally/virtually known to many
  people in a particular group, no matter how important the subject you raise,
  your mails may not get the amount of attention as per your expectations.



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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread Umesha Economics
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!I have strong answers to all of your 
arguments. but I don't want to answer because of 2 reasons. 1. I have no time 
for arguing for unproductive things and convincing the insensitive minds. 2. 
the moderator has given his ruling and it would be inappropriate on my part if 
I overrule his statement. I request the moderator to excuse me if I have 
violated the rules. 

Umesha



  - Original Message - 
  From: P. Subramani 
  To: Umesha Economics ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 5:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  these are just vague excuses. By mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, 
most if not all are up in arms against the poster. I don't agree with the 
notion that subjectline doesn't indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails 
can catch the attention of why not a mail routed   through the moderator? 
Subjectline is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules 
thereon. Also my mail is very clear and his age was mentioned as more details 
would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, 
what about those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's 
comments that all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of 
the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of 
the delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary button 
and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not the 
person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main issue.  I 
shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them. Moreover,  you have 
failed to read my mail completely and understand as well.
- Original Message - 
From: Umesha Economics 
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


dear friends,
sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50
am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body
and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, there
may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to the
real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject
line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not interests
them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not clear.
whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you found
out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through RTI
or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? or
you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the late
age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they
want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will
not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in
their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only
if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not
reply to every message.

so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they
are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with knowledge
and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have seen
no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator is
nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but other
than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other blind.
this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on the
matters, you have to see all these aspects.
regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be
useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also
feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and others
and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel so.
but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to those
ha

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread akhilesh
Mr. VIVEK KAVYA,
Your comments on legal experts are beyond my understanding. Do you
remember the case of your friend? I was the one who responded you
first and asked you to contact me off list. I got the files relating
to the case but these files were badly scanned hence not readable. I
informed Mr. Mobin khan regarding this and I have also told him to
send me the files again. But no replies

Frankly speaking, we’re not allowed to give such assurance to anybody
at least on record. but I've also informed him that his case is very
fit and chances are that order may come in his favour. Should I
forward you that mail?

I don't know how many legal experts/law professionals are there on the
list, but for one thing I'm sure that we're here for you, we're here
to protect your rights, and we’re here to solve your legal issues.
Some Lawyers on the list are very senior and they may not find the
time to respond the each mail, but whenever they get time they surely
respond to mails.

Have you ever gone to the organizations that are getting the nice
money from the funding agencies in the name of free legal aid to the
disabled?  Have you ever asked any question to them regarding this?

Mr KAVYA, you should have thought at least casting such derogating
remarks on law professionals when you said that our legal experts in
this list think that answering on list does not give them any fees so
they keep silent on such issues!!!

Read the subject line of prateek’s mail. It reads something “attention
legal experts”!
Do you know? Respected Mr. Rajesh asadani, Vashishth sir, and I took
the active part in that particular discussion


Thanks and regards,
Akhilesh.

On 2/26/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
> well said, sir.
> - Original Message -
> From: "harish" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her own
>>
>> will.
>>
>> At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer
>> for all problems of the disabled.
>>
>> This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up
>> at any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.
>>
>> You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes,
>> putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly
>> certainly helps.
>>
>> All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your
>> outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your
>> expectation levels, you need not continue with it.
>>
>> May we now put to rest this deviation?
>>
>> Harish Kotian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: "P. Subramani" 
>> To: "Umesha Economics" ;
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>
>>
>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By
>>> mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in
>>> arms against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline
>>> doesn't indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the
>>> attention of why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline
>>> is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon.
>>> Also my mail is very clear and his age was mentioned as more details
>>> would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this
>>> regard, what about those know such matters? Coming to the citing of
>>> moderator's comments that all mails need not be replied to,  it depends
>>> on the gravity of the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, you
>>> need not remind me of the delet button as all computer users well-versed
>>> with that necessary button and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its
>>> ridiculous to say I am not the person to judge which is the otherway of
>>> deflecting from the main issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and
>>> shall standby them. Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely
>>>
>>> and understand as well.
>>>  - Original Message -
>>>  From: Umesha Economics
>>>  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>
>>>
>>>  dear friends,
>>>  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
>>>  modify the first line of your message 

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread Amrit Pal Singh

well said, sir.
- Original Message - 
From: "harish" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!



Hi All

Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her own 
will.


At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer 
for all problems of the disabled.


This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up 
at any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.


You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes, 
putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly 
certainly helps.


All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your 
outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your 
expectation levels, you need not continue with it.


May we now put to rest this deviation?

Harish Kotian

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani" 
To: "Umesha Economics" ; 


Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By 
mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in 
arms against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline 
doesn't indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the 
attention of why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline 
is quitre as the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. 
Also my mail is very clear and his age was mentioned as more details 
would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this 
regard, what about those know such matters? Coming to the citing of 
moderator's comments that all mails need not be replied to,  it depends 
on the gravity of the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, you 
need not remind me of the delet button as all computer users well-versed 
with that necessary button and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its 
ridiculous to say I am not the person to judge which is the otherway of 
deflecting from the main issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and 
shall standby them. Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely 
and understand as well.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Umesha Economics

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 dear friends,
 sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
 modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 
11:50
 am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message 
body
 and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, 
there

 may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
 problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to 
the

 real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
 message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
 problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the 
subject
 line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not 
interests
 them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not 
clear.
 whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you 
found

 out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
 govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through 
RTI

 or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
 person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? 
or
 you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the 
late

 age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
 other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though 
they
 want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people 
will
 not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy 
in
 their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply 
only
 if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need 
not

 reply to every message.

 so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. 
they
 are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with 
knowledge
 and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have 
seen
 no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator 
is
 nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but 
other

 than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
 among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other 
blind.

 this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
 serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on 
the

 matters, you h

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread harish

Hi All

Let me make it very plainly, that every one here has come by his / her own 
will.


At no point of time we had made any claims that AI is the ultimate answer 
for all problems of the disabled.


This is a place to share and exchange information that one has picked up at 
any point of time. It is a store house of collective wisdom.


You may or may not get answers to your problem. That is how it is. Yes, 
putting appropriate subject line and articulating the problem clearly 
certainly helps.


All though I really don't intend to say this, however, looking at your 
outburst, I am compelled to say that if this list fails to meet your 
expectation levels, you need not continue with it.


May we now put to rest this deviation?

Harish Kotian

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani" 
To: "Umesha Economics" ; 


Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By 
mistake, someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in arms 
against the poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline doesn't 
indicate  actual matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of 
why not a mail routed   through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as 
the matter pertains to recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail is 
very clear and his age was mentioned as more details would be of help. 
Forget all those who don't have any solutions in this regard, what about 
those know such matters? Coming to the citing of moderator's comments that 
all mails need not be replied to,  it depends on the gravity of the issue. 
Coming to discussion of useless maters, you need not remind me of the 
delet button as all computer users well-versed with that necessary button 
and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its ridiculous to say I am not 
the person to judge which is the otherway of deflecting from the main 
issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and shall standby them. 
Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely and understand as 
well.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Umesha Economics

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 dear friends,
 sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
 modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 
11:50

 am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body
 and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, 
there

 may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
 problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to 
the

 real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
 message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
 problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject
 line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not 
interests
 them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not 
clear.
 whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you 
found

 out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
 govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through 
RTI

 or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
 person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? 
or
 you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the 
late

 age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
 other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they
 want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people 
will

 not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in
 their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply 
only
 if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need 
not

 reply to every message.

 so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they
 are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with 
knowledge
 and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have 
seen
 no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator 
is
 nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but 
other

 than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
 among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other 
blind.

 this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
 serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on 
the

 matters, you have to see all these aspects.
 regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be
 useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for examp

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread sanjay
AS per my observations, unless you are personally/virtually known to many
people in a particular group, no matter how important the subject you raise,
your mails may not get the amount of attention as per your expectations. 



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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread VIVEK KAVYA
Dear umesha, do not feel angry, the situation in getting job in indian
railways and nationalised banks is very difficult, though if you clear
exams they will try to disqualify the V.I. Persons from job.  because
of that there are many backlog vacancies in these sectors.  in this
list there are more than 2000 members and more than 1000 people are
job holders tell each one of them to write their experiences in
getting job and job satisfaction after job securing, let them write
sincerely.  you are still student so you have very less experience in
job scerching.  Mr.Wanshi had written about a blind person dinaying
job in state bank of india in shimoga in karnataka long back and i
remember very few respondend to that mail.   I am requesting the legal
exparts of this list to come forward and help such people personally.
Vivek

On 2/26/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
> I, too, second your opinion.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Umesha Economics" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>> dear friends,
>> sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
>> modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50
>>
>> am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body
>> and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments,
>> there may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were
>> some problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up
>> to the real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not
>> carry any message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current
>> burning problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the
>> subject line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not
>> interests them. that has already been rectified. the information given is
>> not clear. whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you
>> said you found out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable
>>
>> laws which govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it
>> through RTI or any other means as suggested by another member. you said
>> the age of person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the
>> disqualification? or you put it just to emphasis his problem of not
>> getting the job at the late age? you have to clarify these things before
>> seeking legal opinion.
>> other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they
>> want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will
>>
>> not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in
>> their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only
>>
>> if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not
>>
>> reply to every message.
>>
>> so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they
>> are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with
>> knowledge and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them.
>>
>> I have seen no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the
>> moderator is nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every
>> person. but other than off topic issues, all the matters are related to
>> blind and any one among them including yours can be argued to be affecting
>>
>> every other blind. this case may not also affect some of the blind
>> persons. present case is serious and I do not deny that. but before making
>>
>> negative comments on the matters, you have to see all these aspects.
>> regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be
>> useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also
>>
>> feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and
>> others and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I
>> feel so. but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to
>>
>> those having mobiles.
>> so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and
>> unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.
>>
>> Umesha
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "P. Subramani" 
>> To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" ;
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>
>>
>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your
>>> excellent suggestions/comme

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!these are just vague excuses. By mistake, 
someone posts an off-topic matter, most if not all are up in arms against the 
poster. I don't agree with the notion that subjectline doesn't indicate  actual 
matter.  If off-topic mails can catch the attention of why not a mail routed   
through the moderator? Subjectline is quitre as the matter pertains to 
recruitment and its rules thereon. Also my mail is very clear and his age was 
mentioned as more details would be of help. Forget all those who don't have any 
solutions in this regard, what about those know such matters? Coming to the 
citing of moderator's comments that all mails need not be replied to,  it 
depends on the gravity of the issue. Coming to discussion of useless maters, 
you need not remind me of the delet button as all computer users well-versed 
with that necessary button and hence I do use to ignore such mails. Its 
ridiculous to say I am not the person to judge which is the otherway of 
deflecting from the main issue.  I shall never take back my remarks and shall 
standby them. Moreover,  you have failed to read my mail completely and 
understand as well.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Umesha Economics 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  dear friends,
  sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to
  modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50
  am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body
  and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, there
  may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some
  problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to the
  real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any
  message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning
  problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject
  line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not interests
  them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not clear.
  whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you found
  out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which
  govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through RTI
  or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of
  person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? or
  you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the late
  age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
  other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they
  want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will
  not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in
  their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only
  if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not
  reply to every message.

  so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they
  are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with knowledge
  and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have seen
  no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator is
  nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but other
  than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one
  among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other blind.
  this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is
  serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on the
  matters, you have to see all these aspects.
  regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be
  useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also
  feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and others
  and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel so.
  but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to those
  having mobiles.
  so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and
  unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.

  Umesha

  - Original Message -
  From: "P. Subramani" 
  To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" ;
  
  Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your excellent
  > suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the channels
  > suggested, surely,  i may not have the right to criticize the listers, but
  > for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses from

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread Amrit Pal Singh

I, too, second your opinion.
- Original Message - 
From: "Umesha Economics" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!



dear friends,
sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to 
modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50 
am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body 
and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, 
there may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were 
some problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up 
to the real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not 
carry any message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current 
burning problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the 
subject line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not 
interests them. that has already been rectified. the information given is 
not clear. whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you 
said you found out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable 
laws which govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it 
through RTI or any other means as suggested by another member. you said 
the age of person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the 
disqualification? or you put it just to emphasis his problem of not 
getting the job at the late age? you have to clarify these things before 
seeking legal opinion.
other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they 
want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will 
not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in 
their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only 
if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not 
reply to every message.


so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they 
are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with 
knowledge and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. 
I have seen no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the 
moderator is nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every 
person. but other than off topic issues, all the matters are related to 
blind and any one among them including yours can be argued to be affecting 
every other blind. this case may not also affect some of the blind 
persons. present case is serious and I do not deny that. but before making 
negative comments on the matters, you have to see all these aspects.
regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be 
useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also 
feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and 
others and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I 
feel so. but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to 
those having mobiles.
so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and 
unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani" 
To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" ; 


Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your 
excellent suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the 
channels suggested, surely,  i may not have the right to criticize the 
listers, but for this specific matter. I too have undergone the 
non-responses from listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react 
respecting the members' rights and all such posts were individual 
requirements. But this present case is affecting the masses. If not for 
such specific cases, I do not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the 
gravity of the matter especially the employment seekers point of view.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 Hello,
 Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
 forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
 listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
 negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
 such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
 criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
 posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
 their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
 the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
 cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
 a number of 

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread Umesha Economics

to Subramani and Amrit Pal Singh,
let us not indulge in such blaming activities and loose our spirit. instead 
we shall dedicate our time and energy in productive works or finding real 
solutions to the problems.
to Amrit Pal Singh, don't indulge in retaliation. he cannot be judged 
insensitive. he has his own sensitivity for his friend's problem. in a 
despaired mind, he is blaming like that. he might also have done this to 
gain attention to his problem. but there are other polite ways to do it.


Dear Subramani, I don't think that the question should be ignored if it is 
yours and not if its of the others'. you are also a blind/visually impaired 
and so also your friend. so, every thread has a general importance to it 
since it is a problem of the blind. I have also many mails not replied. but 
it should not lead us to get disappointed. certainly the problem is severe 
and need to be looked urgently but there is some inherent delay in this 
e-mailing system. you had other ways to gain the attention of the members 
like changing subject line, re-posting, etc.
regarding the problem, the lines of solution suggested by Nageswaraiah are 
right I advice you to go on those lines and update the list for any 
assistance at any stage.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani" 
To: "Amrit Pal Singh" ; 


Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!The blame shall be on you as well and 
the entire community for being insesitive atleast till now. Your 
insensitive brain is exposed with your  insane which is worth flushing 
out.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Amrit Pal Singh

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider 
that

 he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 > Hello,
 > Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
 > forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
 > listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
 > negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
 > such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
 > criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
 > posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
 > their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
 > the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
 > cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
 > a number of times but I never complained.
 >
 >
 > On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
 >> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your 
contention

 >> of
 >> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few 
fine.
 >> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community 
especially

 >> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
 >> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This 
matter

 >> is
 >> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its 
terrible
 >> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I 
am

 >> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
 >>   - Original Message -
 >>   From: Bharat
 >>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 >>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
 >>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
 >>
 >>
 >>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
 >>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise 
that,
 >>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own 
decision.

 >>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
 >>   list.
 >>
 >>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
 >>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
 >>   > - Original Message -
 >>   > From: P. Subramani
 >>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 >>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
 >>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
 >>   >
 >>   >
 >>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from 
any

 >> group
 >>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
 >> blind
 >>   > person.  This clearly s

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread Umesha Economics

dear friends,
sorry for the late reply. Dear Subramani, first of all, I request you to 
modify the first line of your message properly as your messages from 11:50 
am to 1:30 PM today were containing the subject lines in the message body 
and making the reading difficult for the VI. coming to your comments, there 
may be various reasons for no response. first of all, there were some 
problems in your mail itself. your subject line was not clear and up to the 
real problem. you wrote it as recruitment rules which does not carry any 
message itself that a person is seriously affected by a current burning 
problem. that's why the moderator is repeatedly telling about the subject 
line. many people do not open the mails subjects of which do not interests 
them. that has already been rectified. the information given is not clear. 
whether disqualification is due to diabetes or blindness? you said you found 
out some thing about rules. did you find all the applicable laws which 
govern the recruitment of that job? if not, you have to get it through RTI 
or any other means as suggested by another member. you said the age of 
person 40 years. does this has anything to do with the disqualification? or 
you put it just to emphasis his problem of not getting the job at the late 
age? you have to clarify these things before seeking legal opinion.
other than the above, members may not knowing the answer even though they 
want to help you. at that time, they keep quite. many a times, people will 
not be having enough time to reply to the messages as they may be busy in 
their own engagements. I check the mails only once or twice and reply only 
if have enough time. recall the moderator's comment that everyone need not 
reply to every message.


so, please take back your harsh remarks on the list and its members. they 
are very offensive. responding to a message has nothing to do with knowledge 
and competence and you are not a competent person to judge them. I have seen 
no off topic message flooding the replies since my entry. the moderator is 
nipping them in the bud. you said the case affects every person. but other 
than off topic issues, all the matters are related to blind and any one 
among them including yours can be argued to be affecting every other blind. 
this case may not also affect some of the blind persons. present case is 
serious and I do not deny that. but before making negative comments on the 
matters, you have to see all these aspects.
regarding useless discussions, you are not the judge for that. it may be 
useless for you but useful for those who discuss them. for example, I also 
feel some times members discussing so much about mobiles, android and others 
and feel useless. I do not have a talking mobile and that's why I feel so. 
but I simply ignore those messages. but the same may be of use to those 
having mobiles.
so, this list is not a talking shop, insensitive, useless, futile and 
unworthy as you said and your message is not a scientific test of it.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "P. Subramani" 
To: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" ; 


Sent: Sunday, 26 February, 2012 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your excellent 
suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the channels 
suggested, surely,  i may not have the right to criticize the listers, but 
for this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses from 
listers on many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the 
members' rights and all such posts were individual requirements. But this 
present case is affecting the masses. If not for such specific cases, I do 
not outburst. Surely you will appreciate the gravity of the matter 
especially the employment seekers point of view.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah

 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


 Hello,
 Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
 forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
 listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
 negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
 such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
 criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
 posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
 their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
 the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
 cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
 a number of times but I never complained.


 On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
 > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your 
contention of
 > listers' choice to resp

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!The blame shall be on you as well and the 
entire community for being insesitive atleast till now. Your insensitive brain 
is exposed with your  insane which is worth flushing out.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Amrit Pal Singh 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider that
  he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
  - Original Message -
  From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
  To: 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  > Hello,
  > Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
  > forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
  > listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
  > negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
  > such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
  > criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
  > posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
  > their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
  > the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
  > cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
  > a number of times but I never complained.
  >
  >
  > On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention
  >> of
  >> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine.
  >> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially
  >> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
  >> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter
  >> is
  >> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible
  >> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
  >> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
  >>   - Original Message -
  >>   From: Bharat
  >>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
  >>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>
  >>
  >>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
  >>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
  >>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
  >>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
  >>   list.
  >>
  >>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>   > - Original Message -
  >>   > From: P. Subramani
  >>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
  >>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>   >
  >>   >
  >>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
  >> group
  >>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
  >> blind
  >>   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of
  >> this
  >>   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling
  >> with
  >>   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions
  >> on
  >>   > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part
  >> to
  >>   > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted
  >> by
  >>   > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions.  I
  >> just
  >>   > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some
  >> non-sensical
  >>   > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this
  >> issue
  >>   > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying
  >> this
  >>   > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the
  >> issues
  >>   > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
  >> discussing
  >>   > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning the
  >> blind.
  >>   > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up necessary
  >>   > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P. Subramani
  >>   >   - Original Message -

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-26 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Kakarla, Thanks for your excellent 
suggestions/comments. I am simultaneously followingup in the channels 
suggested, surely,  i may not have the right to criticize the listers, but for 
this specific matter. I too have undergone the non-responses from listers on 
many of my posts for which I didn't react respecting the members' rights and 
all such posts were individual requirements. But this present case is affecting 
the masses. If not for such specific cases, I do not outburst. Surely you will 
appreciate the gravity of the matter especially the employment seekers point of 
view.   
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kakarla Nageswaraiah 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  Hello,
  Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
  forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
  listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
  negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
  such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
  criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
  posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
  their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
  the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
  cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
  a number of times but I never complained.


  On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  > Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention of
  > listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine.
  > But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially
  > the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
  > question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter is
  > more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible
  > that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
  > absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Bharat
  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
  >   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
  >   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
  >   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
  >   list.
  >
  >   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >   > - Original Message -
  >   > From: P. Subramani
  >   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
  >   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
  > group
  >   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every blind
  >   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of this
  >   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling with
  >   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions on
  >   > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part to
  >   > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted by
  >   > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions.  I
  > just
  >   > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some non-sensical
  >   > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this
  > issue
  >   > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying
  > this
  >   > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the
  > issues
  >   > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
  > discussing
  >   > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning the
  > blind.
  >   > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up necessary
  >   > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P. Subramani
  >   >   - Original Message -
  >   >   From: Kotian, H P
  >   >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
  >   >   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   Hello
  >  

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Akhilesh, Thank you for your 
observations and your efforts to do the needful in this matter.  With due to 
the habits of you and all,  this FW mail was routed through the moderator so as 
to catch the attention of all.  My anger is that we are unable to help and 
guide our fellow blind in their hour of need. As and when you get anything on 
the subject, kindly post the same for which I am grateful to you. P. Subramani  
  - Original Message - 
  From: akhilesh 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  Hello sir,

  Sorry for late reply.
  Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
  people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
  be one of them.

  As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
  carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
  in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
  trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.

  Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
  behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words

  With regards,

  On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
  > Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider that
  > he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
  > - Original Message -
  > From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
  > To: 
  > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
  > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >> Hello,
  >> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
  >> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
  >> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
  >> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
  >> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
  >> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
  >> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
  >> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
  >> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
  >> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
  >> a number of times but I never complained.
  >>
  >>
  >> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention
  >>> of
  >>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine.
  >>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially
  >>> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
  >>> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter
  >>> is
  >>> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible
  >>> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
  >>> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
  >>>   - Original Message -
  >>>   From: Bharat
  >>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >>>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
  >>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
  >>>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
  >>>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
  >>>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
  >>>   list.
  >>>
  >>>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>   > - Original Message -
  >>>   > From: P. Subramani
  >>>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >>>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
  >>>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>   >
  >>>   >
  >>>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
  >>> group
  >>>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
  >>> blind
  >>>   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of
  >>> this
  >>>   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling
  >>> with
  >>>   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile disc

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Hazifa, Nice to know that I am alone on 
this subject, there are many in the same boat.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Hozefa Tambawala 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  It happens with me as well. Many times I put any query on the list and
  I don’t get any response from the members.

  On 2/25/12, akhilesh  wrote:
  > Hello sir,
  >
  > Sorry for late reply.
  > Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
  > people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
  > be one of them.
  >
  > As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
  > carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
  > in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
  > trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.
  >
  > Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
  > behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words
  >
  > With regards,
  >
  > On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
  >> Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider
  >> that
  >> he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
  >> - Original Message -
  >> From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
  >> To: 
  >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>
  >>
  >>> Hello,
  >>> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
  >>> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
  >>> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
  >>> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
  >>> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
  >>> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
  >>> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
  >>> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
  >>> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
  >>> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
  >>> a number of times but I never complained.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention
  >>>> of
  >>>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
  >>>> fine.
  >>>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
  >>>> especially
  >>>> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
  >>>> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter
  >>>> is
  >>>> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
  >>>> terrible
  >>>> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
  >>>> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
  >>>>   - Original Message -
  >>>>   From: Bharat
  >>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >>>>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
  >>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
  >>>>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
  >>>>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
  >>>>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
  >>>>   list.
  >>>>
  >>>>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>>>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>>   > - Original Message -
  >>>>   > From: P. Subramani
  >>>>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >>>>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
  >>>>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>>   >
  >>>>   >
  >>>>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
  >>>> group
  >>>>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
  >>>> blind
  >>>>   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear Vivek, I am in total agreements with 
your views and hence my angry mails. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: VIVEK KAVYA 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  it is true that our members are using waste subjects like book
  requesting, enroide mobile copatibility, and so many waste issues but
  many of our friends who are already recruited in government and
  private sectors are facing so many problems because of disabilaty but
  few persons are bothered.  so many legal exparts and NGO CEOs who are
  keeping quiet in this matter.  recently Amio from West bengal brought
  issue of not promoting disabled women but very few responded to that
  mail.  our legal exparts in this list think that answering on list
  does not give them any fees so they keep silent on such issues.  vivek

  On 2/25/12, akhilesh  wrote:
  > Hello sir,
  >
  > Sorry for late reply.
  > Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
  > people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
  > be one of them.
  >
  > As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
  > carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
  > in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
  > trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.
  >
  > Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
  > behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words
  >
  > With regards,
  >
  > On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
  >> Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider
  >> that
  >> he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
  >> - Original Message -
  >> From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
  >> To: 
  >> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
  >> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>
  >>
  >>> Hello,
  >>> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
  >>> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
  >>> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
  >>> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
  >>> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
  >>> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
  >>> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
  >>> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
  >>> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
  >>> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
  >>> a number of times but I never complained.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention
  >>>> of
  >>>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
  >>>> fine.
  >>>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
  >>>> especially
  >>>> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
  >>>> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter
  >>>> is
  >>>> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
  >>>> terrible
  >>>> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
  >>>> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
  >>>>   - Original Message -
  >>>>   From: Bharat
  >>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >>>>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
  >>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
  >>>>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
  >>>>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
  >>>>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
  >>>>   list.
  >>>>
  >>>>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>>>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>>   > - Original Message -
  >>>>   > From: P. Subramani
  >>>>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Dear vamshi,  I am in full agreement with 
your thoughts of the usefullness of AI.  What angers me is the fact this matter 
has the implication for the entire community and the silence of listers gives a 
terrible disregard for such matters. I don't wish to cast derogatory on all 
members, atleast the knowledgeables  could help out. If it was something else 
like tek support or individual-problems, if no responses are made fine as 
listers' rights are respected. But this matter is itself calls more. Surely you 
will understand the gravity of persons having to undergo disqualification.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vamshi. G 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  There were many problems solved on this very list that immensely
  helped the visually challenged community.  And the role played by
  legal experts was invaluable in those issues.  In fact, there were so
  many clarifications given on the list by legal experts, which would
  have needed people to pay consultation charges, if Access India had
  not been there.  Just because a few issues are not responded to,
  please don't blame them.  Please do not sweepingly generalise stray
  cases.  Remember legal experts are also tied with their personal and
  professional assignments, or they might be traveling and hence missed
  the mail.  Be patient and send your mail twice or thrice.





  On 2/26/12, VIVEK KAVYA  wrote:
  > it is true that our members are using waste subjects like book
  > requesting, enroide mobile copatibility, and so many waste issues but
  > many of our friends who are already recruited in government and
  > private sectors are facing so many problems because of disabilaty but
  > few persons are bothered.  so many legal exparts and NGO CEOs who are
  > keeping quiet in this matter.  recently Amio from West bengal brought
  > issue of not promoting disabled women but very few responded to that
  > mail.  our legal exparts in this list think that answering on list
  > does not give them any fees so they keep silent on such issues.  vivek
  >
  > On 2/25/12, akhilesh  wrote:
  >> Hello sir,
  >>
  >> Sorry for late reply.
  >> Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
  >> people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
  >> be one of them.
  >>
  >> As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
  >> carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
  >> in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
  >> trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.
  >>
  >> Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
  >> behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words
  >>
  >> With regards,
  >>
  >> On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
  >>> Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider
  >>> that
  >>> he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
  >>> - Original Message -
  >>> From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
  >>> To: 
  >>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
  >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>> Hello,
  >>>> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
  >>>> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
  >>>> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
  >>>> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
  >>>> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
  >>>> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
  >>>> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
  >>>> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
  >>>> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
  >>>> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
  >>>> a number of times but I never complained.
  >>>>
  >>>>
  >>>> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  >>>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your
  >>>>> contention
  >>>>> of
  >>>>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
  >>>>> fine.
  >>>>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
  >>

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread Vamshi. G
There were many problems solved on this very list that immensely
helped the visually challenged community.  And the role played by
legal experts was invaluable in those issues.  In fact, there were so
many clarifications given on the list by legal experts, which would
have needed people to pay consultation charges, if Access India had
not been there.  Just because a few issues are not responded to,
please don't blame them.  Please do not sweepingly generalise stray
cases.  Remember legal experts are also tied with their personal and
professional assignments, or they might be traveling and hence missed
the mail.  Be patient and send your mail twice or thrice.





On 2/26/12, VIVEK KAVYA  wrote:
> it is true that our members are using waste subjects like book
> requesting, enroide mobile copatibility, and so many waste issues but
> many of our friends who are already recruited in government and
> private sectors are facing so many problems because of disabilaty but
> few persons are bothered.  so many legal exparts and NGO CEOs who are
> keeping quiet in this matter.  recently Amio from West bengal brought
> issue of not promoting disabled women but very few responded to that
> mail.  our legal exparts in this list think that answering on list
> does not give them any fees so they keep silent on such issues.  vivek
>
> On 2/25/12, akhilesh  wrote:
>> Hello sir,
>>
>> Sorry for late reply.
>> Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
>> people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
>> be one of them.
>>
>> As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
>> carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
>> in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
>> trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.
>>
>> Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
>> behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words
>>
>> With regards,
>>
>> On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
>>> Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider
>>> that
>>> he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
>>>> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
>>>> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
>>>> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
>>>> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
>>>> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
>>>> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
>>>> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
>>>> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
>>>> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
>>>> a number of times but I never complained.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your
>>>>> contention
>>>>> of
>>>>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
>>>>> fine.
>>>>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
>>>>> especially
>>>>> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
>>>>> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This
>>>>> matter
>>>>> is
>>>>> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
>>>>> terrible
>>>>> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I
>>>>> am
>>>>> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
>>>>>   - Original Message -
>>>>>   From: Bharat
>>>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
>>>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread VIVEK KAVYA
it is true that our members are using waste subjects like book
requesting, enroide mobile copatibility, and so many waste issues but
many of our friends who are already recruited in government and
private sectors are facing so many problems because of disabilaty but
few persons are bothered.  so many legal exparts and NGO CEOs who are
keeping quiet in this matter.  recently Amio from West bengal brought
issue of not promoting disabled women but very few responded to that
mail.  our legal exparts in this list think that answering on list
does not give them any fees so they keep silent on such issues.  vivek

On 2/25/12, akhilesh  wrote:
> Hello sir,
>
> Sorry for late reply.
> Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
> people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
> be one of them.
>
> As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
> carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
> in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
> trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.
>
> Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
> behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words
>
> With regards,
>
> On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
>> Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider
>> that
>> he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
>>> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
>>> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
>>> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
>>> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
>>> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
>>> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
>>> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
>>> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
>>> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
>>> a number of times but I never complained.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention
>>>> of
>>>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
>>>> fine.
>>>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
>>>> especially
>>>> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
>>>> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter
>>>> is
>>>> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
>>>> terrible
>>>> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
>>>> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
>>>>   - Original Message -
>>>>   From: Bharat
>>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
>>>>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
>>>>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
>>>>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
>>>>   list.
>>>>
>>>>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>>>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>>   > - Original Message -
>>>>   > From: P. Subramani
>>>>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>>   >
>>>>   >
>>>>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
>>>> group
>>>>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
>>>> blind
>>>>   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence 

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
It happens with me as well. Many times I put any query on the list and
I don’t get any response from the members.

On 2/25/12, akhilesh  wrote:
> Hello sir,
>
> Sorry for late reply.
> Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
> people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
> be one of them.
>
> As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
> carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
> in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
> trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.
>
> Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
> behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words
>
> With regards,
>
> On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
>> Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider
>> that
>> he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
>>> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
>>> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
>>> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
>>> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
>>> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
>>> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
>>> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
>>> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
>>> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
>>> a number of times but I never complained.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention
>>>> of
>>>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few
>>>> fine.
>>>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community
>>>> especially
>>>> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
>>>> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter
>>>> is
>>>> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its
>>>> terrible
>>>> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
>>>> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
>>>>   - Original Message -
>>>>   From: Bharat
>>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
>>>>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
>>>>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
>>>>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
>>>>   list.
>>>>
>>>>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>>>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>>   > - Original Message -
>>>>   > From: P. Subramani
>>>>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>>   >
>>>>   >
>>>>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
>>>> group
>>>>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
>>>> blind
>>>>   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of
>>>> this
>>>>   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling
>>>> with
>>>>   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile
>>>> discussions
>>>>
>>>> on
>>>>   > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members')
>>>> part
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>   > simply ignore this k

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread akhilesh
Hello sir,

Sorry for late reply.
Actually what happens that there are so many mails on the list and
people are habitual of ignoring the fwd mails, and I'm also happen  to
be one of them.

As far as my understanding goes, these medical examinations/tests are
carried out to detect the similar medical issues as you’ve described
in your mail. Despite this, even I’m 100% not sure, and will try to
trace some rules or court rulings supporting your contentions.

Seen many mails upon your angry mail. Wanted to reply them on your
behalf. But this time, decided to chew my words

With regards,

On 2/25/12, Amrit Pal Singh  wrote:
> Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider that
> he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>> Hello,
>> Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
>> forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
>> listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
>> negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
>> such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
>> criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
>> posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
>> their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
>> the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
>> cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
>> a number of times but I never complained.
>>
>>
>> On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention
>>> of
>>> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine.
>>> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially
>>> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
>>> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter
>>> is
>>> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible
>>> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
>>> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Bharat
>>>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>
>>>
>>>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
>>>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
>>>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
>>>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
>>>   list.
>>>
>>>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>   > - Original Message -
>>>   > From: P. Subramani
>>>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
>>>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>>>   >
>>>   >
>>>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
>>> group
>>>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every
>>> blind
>>>   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of
>>> this
>>>   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling
>>> with
>>>   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions
>>>
>>> on
>>>   > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part
>>>
>>> to
>>>   > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted
>>>
>>> by
>>>   > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions.  I
>>> just
>>>   > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some
>>> non-sensical
>>>   > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this
>>> issue
>>>   > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying
>>> this
>>>   > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the
&g

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread Amrit Pal Singh
Don't blame him. Only insensitive brain can boast this way and consider that 
he has the right to say anything to whole ccommunity.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!



Hello,
Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
a number of times but I never complained.


On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention 
of

listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine.
But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially
the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter 
is

more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible
that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
  - Original Message -
  From: Bharat
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
  thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
  responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
  & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
  list.

  On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  > - Original Message -
  > From: P. Subramani
  > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
  > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
group
  > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every 
blind
  > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of 
this
  > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling 
with
  > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions 
on
  > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part 
to
  > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted 
by

  > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions.  I
just
  > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some 
non-sensical

  > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this
issue
  > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying
this
  > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the
issues
  > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
discussing
  > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning the
blind.
  > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up necessary
  > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P. Subramani
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Kotian, H P
  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
  >   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >   Hello
  >   Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
  >   Harish Kotian
  >
  >
  >   Quoting:
  >
  >
  >   From: P. Subramani <mailto:subramani6...@gmail.com>
  >   To: accessindia <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
  >   Subject: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
medical
  > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
Southwestern
  > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
  > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The
person
  > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all.
This
  > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
  >
  >   Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are 
confidential

and
  > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they 
are

  > addres

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Hello,
Many a time, we don't get replies to our mails.  In such cases, try to
forward or change the subject line to attract the attention of the
listers.  Do not loose your ppatience; do not burst out with so many
negative comments.  It doesn't matter whether we, the listers deserve
such comments or not; you may think you have a right to write
criticising the  listers for their insensitivity to the problem you
posted.  But why don't you make use of the RTI Act to get a copy of
their recruitment rules?  Or why don't you seek justice by bringing
the matter to the notice of the CCPD?  Why don't you consult advocacy
cells set up by AICB, etc.?  I too did not get response to my requests
a number of times but I never complained.


On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
> Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention of
> listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine.
> But this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially
> the employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to
> question the knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter is
> more of a general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible
> that a matter of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am
> absolutely  right in my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Bharat
>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>   While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
>   thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
>   responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
>   & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
>   list.
>
>   On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
>   > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>   > - Original Message -
>   > From: P. Subramani
>   > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
>   > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>   >
>   >
>   > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any
> group
>   > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every blind
>   > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of this
>   > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling with
>   > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions on
>   > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part to
>   > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted by
>   > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions.  I
> just
>   > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some non-sensical
>   > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this
> issue
>   > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying
> this
>   > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the
> issues
>   > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from
> discussing
>   > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning the
> blind.
>   > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up necessary
>   > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P. Subramani
>   >   - Original Message -
>   >   From: Kotian, H P
>   >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
>   >   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>   >
>   >
>   >   Hello
>   >   Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
>   >   Harish Kotian
>   >
>   >
>   >   Quoting:
>   >
>   >
>   >   From: P. Subramani <mailto:subramani6...@gmail.com>
>   >   To: accessindia <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>   >   Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
>   >   Subject: Recruitment rules!
>   >
>   >   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing
> medical
>   > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in
> Southwestern
>   > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
>   > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The
> person
>   > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all.
> This
>   > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
>   >
>   >   Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are co

Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!Although I agree with your contention of 
listers' choice to respond or not, If it was limited to me or a few fine. But 
this particular matter concerns the entire blind community especially the 
employment seekers and  and none seem to bother. So I am forced to question the 
knowledge-level and competency of the listers.  This matter is  more of a 
general concern rather than an individual concern. Its terrible that a matter 
of this stature is treated or othervise differently.  I am absolutely  right in 
my observations/remarks. P. Subramani
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bharat 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!


  While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
  thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
  responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
  & I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
  list.

  On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
  > [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  > - Original Message -
  > From: P. Subramani
  > To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
  > Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  > Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any group
  > member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every blind
  > person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of this
  > group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling with
  > passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions on
  > things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part to
  > simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted by
  > chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions.  I just
  > wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some non-sensical
  > matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this issue
  > hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying this
  > group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the issues
  > concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from discussing
  > technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning the blind.
  > This is one such test case where all you failed to come up necessary
  > needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P. Subramani
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Kotian, H P
  >   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
  >   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
  >   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >
  >   Hello
  >   Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
  >   Harish Kotian
  >
  >
  >   Quoting:
  >
  >
  >   From: P. Subramani <mailto:subramani6...@gmail.com>
  >   To: accessindia <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
  >   Subject: Recruitment rules!
  >
  >   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
  > examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
  > Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
  > whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
  > is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
  > is very urgent. P. Subramani d
  >
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Re: [AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread Bharat
While I completely agree with the need for people to respond to your
thoughts, which indeed are important. however, you must realise that,
responding or, not to any particular mails, is people's own decision.
& I don't really think, you should this kind of things across to the
list.

On 2/25/12, P. Subramani  wrote:
> [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
> - Original Message -
> From: P. Subramani
> To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
> Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any group
> member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every blind
> person.  This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of this
> group on this very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling with
> passionate and going at each other in many useless/futile discussions on
> things like books and mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part to
> simply ignore this kind of matters. When off-topic matters are posted by
> chance, each and everyone flood the mailbox with futile reactions.  I just
> wonder  whether this group is just a talking shop for some non-sensical
> matters?  Despite having so-called knowledgeables in this group, this issue
> hasn't even received any reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying this
> group like many other groups  is  exposing its insensitivity to the issues
> concerning the blind. Assuming this group was setup apart from discussing
> technology to the blind also all such matter/issues concerning the blind.
> This is one such test case where all you failed to come up necessary
> needful. This group remains useless/futile and unworthy. P. Subramani
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Kotian, H P
>   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
>   Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
>
>
>   Hello
>   Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
>   Harish Kotian
>
>
>   Quoting:
>
>
>   From: P. Subramani 
>   To: accessindia 
>   Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
>   Subject: Recruitment rules!
>
>   A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical
> examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern
> Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From
> whatever I foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person
> is 40 years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This
> is very urgent. P. Subramani d
>
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[AI] Fw: FW: Recruitment rules!

2012-02-25 Thread P. Subramani
[AI] FW: Recruitment rules!
- Original Message - 
From: P. Subramani 
To: Kotian, H P ; accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!


Hello! I am apalled to see no response to this mail enquiry from any group 
member on this extraordinary issue which concerns each and every blind person.  
This clearly shows the incompetence of  all the members of this group on this 
very sensitive issue. You people  are just rangling with passionate and going 
at each other in many useless/futile discussions on things like books and 
mobiles. Its disgracing on your (members') part to simply ignore this kind of 
matters. When off-topic matters are posted by chance, each and everyone flood 
the mailbox with futile reactions.  I just wonder  whether this group is just a 
talking shop for some non-sensical matters?  Despite having so-called 
knowledgeables in this group, this issue hasn't even received any 
reaction/suggestion.  I conclude  by saying this group like many other groups  
is  exposing its insensitivity to the issues concerning the blind. Assuming 
this group was setup apart from discussing technology to the blind also all 
such matter/issues concerning the blind.  This is one such test case where all 
you failed to come up necessary needful. This group remains useless/futile and 
unworthy. P. Subramani
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kotian, H P 
  To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 4:34 PM
  Subject: [AI] FW: Recruitment rules!


  Hello
  Forwarding a mail, which did not get to the list.
  Harish Kotian


  Quoting:


  From: P. Subramani 
  To: accessindia 
  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:24 PM
  Subject: Recruitment rules!

  A blin man has been disqualified due to diabetes while undergoing medical 
examinations in the recruitment process for group 'D posts in Southwestern 
Railways. I seek the guidance of knowledgeables in this regard. From whatever I 
foundout, there are no such rules of disqualification. The person is 40 
years.Further needful actions/suggestions are invited from all. This is very 
urgent. P. Subramani d

  Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
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