Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Friends, After all these discussions one can understand that each time one has to opt the defolt language as per the time needs by using control insert and v. but in n v d a 12 the problem was not at all happening . It is a fact that we need a globle vission while commenting on any software. But while typing this repetation of language name is definitely a disturbance. One can suggest that you opt a training mode or any other option to recognise newly selected language other than defolt language when ever the typist doubts. In all the other time the tts may utter the letters only of the newly selected On Tuesday 20 May 2014 04:11 PM, Him Prasad Gautam wrote: Hi, But you did not said the recognizing base. On What basis you can distinguished. Explain the parameter of identification. By a different tone? If yes, you are in totally self context. Think it in more than seventy languages. In my previous example, if not in Bengali, Hindi and Gujarati but if written in Kazak, Russian and turkey; do you can identify? If yes, how? A programmer must think the global context. For your knowledge, nvda can speak all those languages in which espeak is available. Fundamentally, nvda does not speak any thing. It is the tts which speaks. nvda simply recognizes the letters and informs the tts that there is this letter present. TTS simply says the text informed by nvda. nvda recognizes all language texts in which espeak is not available too. disabling auto detection on nvda is in voice setting. Read the userguide again. On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, i can distinguish if I am hearing Hindi or Bengali or English. Secondly, I did not test whether NVDA can read three languages at the same time. I admit that this feature may be useful. Can you do something to turn this feature off? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, In your explanation, please compulsory reply: For example, you are reading a file. The page contains three words. One in Hindi, second in Bengali and third in Gujarati. Mind here you are not typing any thing by yourself. Just reading a multi-language words containing document. Now, let us imagine that the three words are just your name written in different language. In each case, the same sound (i.e. your name) is said. Please, gentle man, let me know; How can you distinguished which word belongs to which language. Only one answer, by seeing Do not mind, You are only. in context of writing mode by the users. A feature should not take as a nonsense. On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: I know this combination. It's not a solution. Perhaps I should explain a little more. When I am reading Bengali text, it's ok. If I want to read it character by character, especially on the internet, it says Bengali ka and so on. However, old files written in Bengali Vrinda font, it's working well. There is another problem in reading Bengali. While reading, it says 0 for any Bengali number. But I can read the number digit by digit. Then it says Bengali 1 etc. I will request Him Prasad to check if it is some error on my part. For example, the following Bengali daily may be checked: www.anandabazar.com With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
I know this combination. It's not a solution. Perhaps I should explain a little more. When I am reading Bengali text, it's ok. If I want to read it character by character, especially on the internet, it says Bengali ka and so on. However, old files written in Bengali Vrinda font, it's working well. There is another problem in reading Bengali. While reading, it says 0 for any Bengali number. But I can read the number digit by digit. Then it says Bengali 1 etc. I will request Him Prasad to check if it is some error on my part. For example, the following Bengali daily may be checked: www.anandabazar.com With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi, In your explanation, please compulsory reply: For example, you are reading a file. The page contains three words. One in Hindi, second in Bengali and third in Gujarati. Mind here you are not typing any thing by yourself. Just reading a multi-language words containing document. Now, let us imagine that the three words are just your name written in different language. In each case, the same sound (i.e. your name) is said. Please, gentle man, let me know; How can you distinguished which word belongs to which language. Only one answer, by seeing Do not mind, You are only. in context of writing mode by the users. A feature should not take as a nonsense. On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: I know this combination. It's not a solution. Perhaps I should explain a little more. When I am reading Bengali text, it's ok. If I want to read it character by character, especially on the internet, it says Bengali ka and so on. However, old files written in Bengali Vrinda font, it's working well. There is another problem in reading Bengali. While reading, it says 0 for any Bengali number. But I can read the number digit by digit. Then it says Bengali 1 etc. I will request Him Prasad to check if it is some error on my part. For example, the following Bengali daily may be checked: www.anandabazar.com With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi, I checked the site. It is taking common symbols like quote or dash etc as non- bengali letters and the auto switch language detect option of nvda is hinting as next language. There is no problem if common symbols (same symbol used in Bengali and English )are not used. Check the site using my Bangla Kothok. Regarding the number, there is an bug. I know the reason and remedy. However, I could not convinced the developer Mr. Jonathan in this case. He is in European context. Do not tick auto language option on in the nvda. On 5/20/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In your explanation, please compulsory reply: For example, you are reading a file. The page contains three words. One in Hindi, second in Bengali and third in Gujarati. Mind here you are not typing any thing by yourself. Just reading a multi-language words containing document. Now, let us imagine that the three words are just your name written in different language. In each case, the same sound (i.e. your name) is said. Please, gentle man, let me know; How can you distinguished which word belongs to which language. Only one answer, by seeing Do not mind, You are only. in context of writing mode by the users. A feature should not take as a nonsense. On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: I know this combination. It's not a solution. Perhaps I should explain a little more. When I am reading Bengali text, it's ok. If I want to read it character by character, especially on the internet, it says Bengali ka and so on. However, old files written in Bengali Vrinda font, it's working well. There is another problem in reading Bengali. While reading, it says 0 for any Bengali number. But I can read the number digit by digit. Then it says Bengali 1 etc. I will request Him Prasad to check if it is some error on my part. For example, the following Bengali daily may be checked: www.anandabazar.com With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Ok, i can distinguish if I am hearing Hindi or Bengali or English. Secondly, I did not test whether NVDA can read three languages at the same time. I admit that this feature may be useful. Can you do something to turn this feature off? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, In your explanation, please compulsory reply: For example, you are reading a file. The page contains three words. One in Hindi, second in Bengali and third in Gujarati. Mind here you are not typing any thing by yourself. Just reading a multi-language words containing document. Now, let us imagine that the three words are just your name written in different language. In each case, the same sound (i.e. your name) is said. Please, gentle man, let me know; How can you distinguished which word belongs to which language. Only one answer, by seeing Do not mind, You are only. in context of writing mode by the users. A feature should not take as a nonsense. On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: I know this combination. It's not a solution. Perhaps I should explain a little more. When I am reading Bengali text, it's ok. If I want to read it character by character, especially on the internet, it says Bengali ka and so on. However, old files written in Bengali Vrinda font, it's working well. There is another problem in reading Bengali. While reading, it says 0 for any Bengali number. But I can read the number digit by digit. Then it says Bengali 1 etc. I will request Him Prasad to check if it is some error on my part. For example, the following Bengali daily may be checked: www.anandabazar.com With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi, But you did not said the recognizing base. On What basis you can distinguished. Explain the parameter of identification. By a different tone? If yes, you are in totally self context. Think it in more than seventy languages. In my previous example, if not in Bengali, Hindi and Gujarati but if written in Kazak, Russian and turkey; do you can identify? If yes, how? A programmer must think the global context. For your knowledge, nvda can speak all those languages in which espeak is available. Fundamentally, nvda does not speak any thing. It is the tts which speaks. nvda simply recognizes the letters and informs the tts that there is this letter present. TTS simply says the text informed by nvda. nvda recognizes all language texts in which espeak is not available too. disabling auto detection on nvda is in voice setting. Read the userguide again. On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, i can distinguish if I am hearing Hindi or Bengali or English. Secondly, I did not test whether NVDA can read three languages at the same time. I admit that this feature may be useful. Can you do something to turn this feature off? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, In your explanation, please compulsory reply: For example, you are reading a file. The page contains three words. One in Hindi, second in Bengali and third in Gujarati. Mind here you are not typing any thing by yourself. Just reading a multi-language words containing document. Now, let us imagine that the three words are just your name written in different language. In each case, the same sound (i.e. your name) is said. Please, gentle man, let me know; How can you distinguished which word belongs to which language. Only one answer, by seeing Do not mind, You are only. in context of writing mode by the users. A feature should not take as a nonsense. On 5/20/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: I know this combination. It's not a solution. Perhaps I should explain a little more. When I am reading Bengali text, it's ok. If I want to read it character by character, especially on the internet, it says Bengali ka and so on. However, old files written in Bengali Vrinda font, it's working well. There is another problem in reading Bengali. While reading, it says 0 for any Bengali number. But I can read the number digit by digit. Then it says Bengali 1 etc. I will request Him Prasad to check if it is some error on my part. For example, the following Bengali daily may be checked: www.anandabazar.com With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Contact Details: E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype username: bhavya.09 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi. A user may need to work on two or more languages together and does not need to be told which language he has focus on sometimes. Therefore, I request you to incorporate an option to make two or more as default language or something like that. I would certainly like to know your views on this. On 5/19/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi, Think globally, not locally. Do not assume your scenario implies to all. Why to set one language and work to other? What is wrong to set the particular voice in which you are working. On 5/19/14, Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Amiyo, Press the key combination Insert + control and letter v. Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter. Thanks Maheshinder Singh Khosla Mobile +91 97 811 20333 - Original Message - From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using this language? With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, I also work in Espeak. You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi or Bengali or English. This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader. If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another one. It is a lie declaration! The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or navigation of the character. In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text. Hence no question of disturbance. It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is reminding you that your default voice is different and working in another language. In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also Bengali; you can say why to inform me? But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is your weakness. Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual working manner. If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the road is built. On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading Bengali, English or Hindi. With best Regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi, The auto language detection characteristics is not from nvda but it is from Espeak. Nvda does no thing on TTs. In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working language must be the same. Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than seventy languages. On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Contact Details: E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype username: bhavya.09 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Dear Him Prasad Gautam Sir, I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak everything without mentioning the language. The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can distinguish between the two languages himself. Please inform me your views about this. On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Contact Details: E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype username: bhavya.09 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily
Hi, there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda. Based on the letter, the default nvda synthesizer automatically detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular language. Take an example, For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi. If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you know whether it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka? In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same. If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language belongs to the other language. nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice. Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper way. Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work. On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote: friends, While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each letter; for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It should be notted that it was not in 2012. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
