RE: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
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Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
Think the focus seems to be shifting to mobile from PC. I am not sure at all that is the right direction to take. By the way, I just noticed that my previous mail got send multiple times as my chair had jammed the enter key of the keyboard. Sorry for the inconvenience. On 11/17/20, mukesh jain wrote: > hello, > the same situation is with openbook software. the last version which i > have been using was openbook 9 which released around 3 years back and > since then there is no update. > don't know for what reasons, freedom scientific has not updated > openbook after its last version9. > > > On 11/17/20, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote: >> I don't think they have discontinued their program for further >> development. They are very much into it, probably there are not >> substantial upgradation scheduled for now. They might be working for >> next version of Kurzweil in 21. I also agree with you that Kurzweil is >> the best reading machine for visually impaired using the computer >> system. I am using Kurzweil since my undergraduate programme. However >> now for the purpose of scanning the books, I have shifted to fine >> reader as Kurzweil didn't upgrade their recognition engen after fine >> reader 11. >> >> On 11/17/20, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>> Have they killed off Kurzweil 1000 silently? Can't find anything on >>> the site regarding the discontinuation of the product or any >>> reasoning. >>> As there are lots of OCR and reading tools in general, a lot many >>> people will simply look at alternatives and be fine, also as it is a >>> very expensive software. But particularly for those who are in higher >>> education, both in a learning or teaching roles, it is surely a >>> setback. I wish there is a way to get them to change their minds on >>> this. >>> I would surely want to try out Kibo for desktop. The Android product >>> is promising, though the reading interface on the app do not seem to >>> have many options as such. >>> Have they integrated the Google TTS somehow on the Windows platform? >>> That is the greatest feature in a way on Android, Google TTS provides >>> a very functional voice to Kibo on Android. Vocalizer doesn't have as >>> many language options on Windows, and eSpeak is not the greatest TTS >>> option available in terms of voice quality and listening experience, >>> and Eloquence of course have very limited language set though in my >>> view it does remain the best TTS engine despite all the neglect that >>> it has faced. >>> >>> On 11/17/20, Pranav Lal wrote: >>>> Mahesh, >>>> >>>> I agree about the use of a computer for serious work. This is why Kebo >>>> is >>>> so >>>> promising. It works on the phone and the computer. >>>> Imho, a mobile phone, irrespective of operating system does not cut it. >>>> >>>> Pranav >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> On >>>> Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker >>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:36 AM >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000 >>>> >>>> Hi Pranav, >>>> Thank you for the response. Yes, I have been using Kibo, and it surely >>>> is >>>> promising. I read about Kibo desktop recently, but I have tried it out >>>> only >>>> on Android so far. >>>> I have felt that for major educational requirements, you still need the >>>> computer. Don't know about the iPhone environment, but text selection, >>>> and >>>> even many other basic requirements are rather difficult on Android. By >>>> the >>>> way, KNFB Reader on Android is an utter scam. >>>> It is so sad that Kurzweil Educational Systems have stopped the >>>> development >>>> of K1000. >>>> >>>> On 11/16/20, Pranav Lal wrote: >>>>> Mahesh, >>>>> >>>>> As far as I know, k1k is no longer being developed. >>>>> >>>>> I use the knfb reader for my recognition needs but am keeping a close >>>>> eye on kebo because it is moving in promising directions with respect >>>>> to image recognition. >>>>> >>>>> If you are using an iPhone, voice dream reader with voice dream >>>>> scanner may come close to what you need with note taking features etc. >>>>> Pranav
Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
hello, the same situation is with openbook software. the last version which i have been using was openbook 9 which released around 3 years back and since then there is no update. don't know for what reasons, freedom scientific has not updated openbook after its last version9. On 11/17/20, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote: > I don't think they have discontinued their program for further > development. They are very much into it, probably there are not > substantial upgradation scheduled for now. They might be working for > next version of Kurzweil in 21. I also agree with you that Kurzweil is > the best reading machine for visually impaired using the computer > system. I am using Kurzweil since my undergraduate programme. However > now for the purpose of scanning the books, I have shifted to fine > reader as Kurzweil didn't upgrade their recognition engen after fine > reader 11. > > On 11/17/20, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >> Have they killed off Kurzweil 1000 silently? Can't find anything on >> the site regarding the discontinuation of the product or any >> reasoning. >> As there are lots of OCR and reading tools in general, a lot many >> people will simply look at alternatives and be fine, also as it is a >> very expensive software. But particularly for those who are in higher >> education, both in a learning or teaching roles, it is surely a >> setback. I wish there is a way to get them to change their minds on >> this. >> I would surely want to try out Kibo for desktop. The Android product >> is promising, though the reading interface on the app do not seem to >> have many options as such. >> Have they integrated the Google TTS somehow on the Windows platform? >> That is the greatest feature in a way on Android, Google TTS provides >> a very functional voice to Kibo on Android. Vocalizer doesn't have as >> many language options on Windows, and eSpeak is not the greatest TTS >> option available in terms of voice quality and listening experience, >> and Eloquence of course have very limited language set though in my >> view it does remain the best TTS engine despite all the neglect that >> it has faced. >> >> On 11/17/20, Pranav Lal wrote: >>> Mahesh, >>> >>> I agree about the use of a computer for serious work. This is why Kebo >>> is >>> so >>> promising. It works on the phone and the computer. >>> Imho, a mobile phone, irrespective of operating system does not cut it. >>> >>> Pranav >>> -Original Message- >>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On >>> Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker >>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:36 AM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000 >>> >>> Hi Pranav, >>> Thank you for the response. Yes, I have been using Kibo, and it surely >>> is >>> promising. I read about Kibo desktop recently, but I have tried it out >>> only >>> on Android so far. >>> I have felt that for major educational requirements, you still need the >>> computer. Don't know about the iPhone environment, but text selection, >>> and >>> even many other basic requirements are rather difficult on Android. By >>> the >>> way, KNFB Reader on Android is an utter scam. >>> It is so sad that Kurzweil Educational Systems have stopped the >>> development >>> of K1000. >>> >>> On 11/16/20, Pranav Lal wrote: >>>> Mahesh, >>>> >>>> As far as I know, k1k is no longer being developed. >>>> >>>> I use the knfb reader for my recognition needs but am keeping a close >>>> eye on kebo because it is moving in promising directions with respect >>>> to image recognition. >>>> >>>> If you are using an iPhone, voice dream reader with voice dream >>>> scanner may come close to what you need with note taking features etc. >>>> Pranav >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >>>> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>>> veracity; >>>> >>>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>> mails sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
I don't think they have discontinued their program for further development. They are very much into it, probably there are not substantial upgradation scheduled for now. They might be working for next version of Kurzweil in 21. I also agree with you that Kurzweil is the best reading machine for visually impaired using the computer system. I am using Kurzweil since my undergraduate programme. However now for the purpose of scanning the books, I have shifted to fine reader as Kurzweil didn't upgrade their recognition engen after fine reader 11. On 11/17/20, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > Have they killed off Kurzweil 1000 silently? Can't find anything on > the site regarding the discontinuation of the product or any > reasoning. > As there are lots of OCR and reading tools in general, a lot many > people will simply look at alternatives and be fine, also as it is a > very expensive software. But particularly for those who are in higher > education, both in a learning or teaching roles, it is surely a > setback. I wish there is a way to get them to change their minds on > this. > I would surely want to try out Kibo for desktop. The Android product > is promising, though the reading interface on the app do not seem to > have many options as such. > Have they integrated the Google TTS somehow on the Windows platform? > That is the greatest feature in a way on Android, Google TTS provides > a very functional voice to Kibo on Android. Vocalizer doesn't have as > many language options on Windows, and eSpeak is not the greatest TTS > option available in terms of voice quality and listening experience, > and Eloquence of course have very limited language set though in my > view it does remain the best TTS engine despite all the neglect that > it has faced. > > On 11/17/20, Pranav Lal wrote: >> Mahesh, >> >> I agree about the use of a computer for serious work. This is why Kebo is >> so >> promising. It works on the phone and the computer. >> Imho, a mobile phone, irrespective of operating system does not cut it. >> >> Pranav >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On >> Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker >> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:36 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000 >> >> Hi Pranav, >> Thank you for the response. Yes, I have been using Kibo, and it surely is >> promising. I read about Kibo desktop recently, but I have tried it out >> only >> on Android so far. >> I have felt that for major educational requirements, you still need the >> computer. Don't know about the iPhone environment, but text selection, >> and >> even many other basic requirements are rather difficult on Android. By >> the >> way, KNFB Reader on Android is an utter scam. >> It is so sad that Kurzweil Educational Systems have stopped the >> development >> of K1000. >> >> On 11/16/20, Pranav Lal wrote: >>> Mahesh, >>> >>> As far as I know, k1k is no longer being developed. >>> >>> I use the knfb reader for my recognition needs but am keeping a close >>> eye on kebo because it is moving in promising directions with respect >>> to image recognition. >>> >>> If you are using an iPhone, voice dream reader with voice dream >>> scanner may come close to what you need with note taking features etc. >>> Pranav >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >>> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>> veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "AccessIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/00bc01d6bbb4%2462848e10%24278daa30%24%40gmail.com. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker >> Assistant Professor, >> Department of Political Science, >> Lady Shri Ram College for Women, >> Lajpat Nagar >> New Delhi 110024 >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factua
Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
Have they killed off Kurzweil 1000 silently? Can't find anything on the site regarding the discontinuation of the product or any reasoning. As there are lots of OCR and reading tools in general, a lot many people will simply look at alternatives and be fine, also as it is a very expensive software. But particularly for those who are in higher education, both in a learning or teaching roles, it is surely a setback. I wish there is a way to get them to change their minds on this. I would surely want to try out Kibo for desktop. The Android product is promising, though the reading interface on the app do not seem to have many options as such. Have they integrated the Google TTS somehow on the Windows platform? That is the greatest feature in a way on Android, Google TTS provides a very functional voice to Kibo on Android. Vocalizer doesn't have as many language options on Windows, and eSpeak is not the greatest TTS option available in terms of voice quality and listening experience, and Eloquence of course have very limited language set though in my view it does remain the best TTS engine despite all the neglect that it has faced. On 11/17/20, Pranav Lal wrote: > Mahesh, > > I agree about the use of a computer for serious work. This is why Kebo is so > promising. It works on the phone and the computer. > Imho, a mobile phone, irrespective of operating system does not cut it. > > Pranav > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On > Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:36 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000 > > Hi Pranav, > Thank you for the response. Yes, I have been using Kibo, and it surely is > promising. I read about Kibo desktop recently, but I have tried it out only > on Android so far. > I have felt that for major educational requirements, you still need the > computer. Don't know about the iPhone environment, but text selection, and > even many other basic requirements are rather difficult on Android. By the > way, KNFB Reader on Android is an utter scam. > It is so sad that Kurzweil Educational Systems have stopped the development > of K1000. > > On 11/16/20, Pranav Lal wrote: >> Mahesh, >> >> As far as I know, k1k is no longer being developed. >> >> I use the knfb reader for my recognition needs but am keeping a close >> eye on kebo because it is moving in promising directions with respect >> to image recognition. >> >> If you are using an iPhone, voice dream reader with voice dream >> scanner may come close to what you need with note taking features etc. >> Pranav >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >> veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/00bc01d6bbb4%2462848e10%24278daa30%24%40gmail.com. >> > > > -- > Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker > Assistant Professor, > Department of Political Science, > Lady Shri Ram College for Women, > Lajpat Nagar > New Delhi 110024 > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFAyNENwD6rwwYhGqEVix0LZ7crAcodTDZpaBVg7Gq_u9%2B3haw%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held li
RE: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
Mahesh, I agree about the use of a computer for serious work. This is why Kebo is so promising. It works on the phone and the computer. Imho, a mobile phone, irrespective of operating system does not cut it. Pranav -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 9:36 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000 Hi Pranav, Thank you for the response. Yes, I have been using Kibo, and it surely is promising. I read about Kibo desktop recently, but I have tried it out only on Android so far. I have felt that for major educational requirements, you still need the computer. Don't know about the iPhone environment, but text selection, and even many other basic requirements are rather difficult on Android. By the way, KNFB Reader on Android is an utter scam. It is so sad that Kurzweil Educational Systems have stopped the development of K1000. On 11/16/20, Pranav Lal wrote: > Mahesh, > > As far as I know, k1k is no longer being developed. > > I use the knfb reader for my recognition needs but am keeping a close > eye on kebo because it is moving in promising directions with respect > to image recognition. > > If you are using an iPhone, voice dream reader with voice dream > scanner may come close to what you need with note taking features etc. > Pranav > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/00bc01d6bbb4%2462848e10%24278daa30%24%40gmail.com. > -- Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram College for Women, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024 -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFAyNENwD6rwwYhGqEVix0LZ7crAcodTDZpaBVg7Gq_u9%2B3haw%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/018e01d6bc99%2443d48e30%24cb7daa90%24%40gmail.com.
Re: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
Hi Pranav, Thank you for the response. Yes, I have been using Kibo, and it surely is promising. I read about Kibo desktop recently, but I have tried it out only on Android so far. I have felt that for major educational requirements, you still need the computer. Don't know about the iPhone environment, but text selection, and even many other basic requirements are rather difficult on Android. By the way, KNFB Reader on Android is an utter scam. It is so sad that Kurzweil Educational Systems have stopped the development of K1000. On 11/16/20, Pranav Lal wrote: > Mahesh, > > As far as I know, k1k is no longer being developed. > > I use the knfb reader for my recognition needs but am keeping a close eye on > kebo because it is moving in promising directions with respect to image > recognition. > > If you are using an iPhone, voice dream reader with voice dream scanner may > come close to what you need with note taking features etc. > Pranav > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/00bc01d6bbb4%2462848e10%24278daa30%24%40gmail.com. > -- Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram College for Women, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024 -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFAyNENwD6rwwYhGqEVix0LZ7crAcodTDZpaBVg7Gq_u9%2B3haw%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
Mahesh, As far as I know, k1k is no longer being developed. I use the knfb reader for my recognition needs but am keeping a close eye on kebo because it is moving in promising directions with respect to image recognition. If you are using an iPhone, voice dream reader with voice dream scanner may come close to what you need with note taking features etc. Pranav -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/00bc01d6bbb4%2462848e10%24278daa30%24%40gmail.com.
[AI] Regarding Kurzweil 1000
Hi listers, This is is a question regarding Kurzweil 1000. Has Kurzweil Educational Systems discontinued the further development of Kurzweil 1000? I have not been able to find information on Kurzweil 1000 beyond version 14, and the most recent within-version for V 14 came in 2017. Have they discontinued the product? The Kurzweil website is still maintained, and updates and stuff can be downloaded in from there. However, there is not much clue on what happened to K 1000. In my view, the K 1000 is still the best integrated educational software for visually impaired people, bringing together OCR and TTS in a highly customized educational package. Have we heard the last of K 1000? Regards, -- Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram College for Women, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024 -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFAyNEN%2BsC5d800oo5MpDp7EgrYukY-Rmoop9BNJMs%2BPm-205Q%40mail.gmail.com.
