Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-12 Thread Kiran Kaja
Hi Keshav,

Thanks for your suggestion. Yes, it is very important for me to look at the
legal aspects of doing all this. I will certainly consult experts before
introducing any feature like this.

Thanks and regards,
Kiran. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keshav Kumar
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:53 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

Dear Kiran,

it is my humble suggestion that you must have some sort of filtering the
type and standerd of the content, before putting on the site.

this would enable you to store the best possible content only.

 for example, if i sing a song, sang by an established singer, i'll no way
be in any trouble but, as for copyright law on music, the web site owner
must have a written permission from the original artist, clearly stating
that he or she has no objection in allowing you to exibit his or her song's'

recorded in others voice's'.

thanks and regards,
Keshav.

- Original Message -
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Actually, I do have a plan to start some sort of a talent corner on the
> AI site where I give some space for blind musicians and people with
> other talents to  put up their material for others to see.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> SHANKAR VERMA
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:12 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
> creating link in accessindia site, practically not possible, each
> company
> and programme producer has its own copyright, however, to put anything
> on
> site, you have to have a digital version of that particular object.  i
> just
> posted that matter because diwakar is a blind and has also a tallent to
> sing
> a song.  i was not a regular viewer of that particular programme, two or
> three weeks ago, my friend rang me and told that some blind boy is
> appearing
> on that particular tv show, then i started listening that programme, if
> he
> just told that listen that particular programme, without referring
> diwakar
> with his disability, i never listen such programme.  secondly, after
> this
> final show, i won't watch this programme, i believe on early to bed and
> early to rise. say goodluck for diwakar and his show. thanks.
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "mufazal munshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> kirans point is taken, but since i believe that at least one of us has
>> probably listened to the fellow or atleast Bhawani has, then, lets
> invest
>> in his good faith and send an SMS. It may not do so much harm to our
> Equal
>> opportunity demand and at the same time might land up giving the boy
> some
>> leverage.
>>
>> our demand for equal opportunity is a social norm that we need to
> establish
>> to persons outside of our realm of blindies. within our limited
> judgement
> if
>> we were to create a ground for one amongst us, the idea of social
> equality
>> may not become challengeable.
>>
>> none the same now the time to take action has passed, as our SMS's may
> hold
>> no value. but, perhaps in the future if such a request was found with
> a
> link
>> to our access india site allowing all to listen to the talent of any
>> candidate, then, not only would one be able to excercise ones own
> judgement
>> about the person concerned but also remove scope to any
> misunderstanding.
>>
>> i hope my opinion will not be met with offense.
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-12 Thread Keshav Kumar
Dear Kiran,

it is my humble suggestion that you must have some sort of filtering the 
type and standerd of the content, before putting on the site.

this would enable you to store the best possible content only.

 for example, if i sing a song, sang by an established singer, i'll no way 
be in any trouble but, as for copyright law on music, the web site owner 
must have a written permission from the original artist, clearly stating 
that he or she has no objection in allowing you to exibit his or her song's' 
recorded in others voice's'.

thanks and regards,
Keshav.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Actually, I do have a plan to start some sort of a talent corner on the
> AI site where I give some space for blind musicians and people with
> other talents to  put up their material for others to see.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> SHANKAR VERMA
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:12 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
> creating link in accessindia site, practically not possible, each
> company
> and programme producer has its own copyright, however, to put anything
> on
> site, you have to have a digital version of that particular object.  i
> just
> posted that matter because diwakar is a blind and has also a tallent to
> sing
> a song.  i was not a regular viewer of that particular programme, two or
> three weeks ago, my friend rang me and told that some blind boy is
> appearing
> on that particular tv show, then i started listening that programme, if
> he
> just told that listen that particular programme, without referring
> diwakar
> with his disability, i never listen such programme.  secondly, after
> this
> final show, i won't watch this programme, i believe on early to bed and
> early to rise. say goodluck for diwakar and his show. thanks.
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "mufazal munshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> kirans point is taken, but since i believe that at least one of us has
>> probably listened to the fellow or atleast Bhawani has, then, lets
> invest
>> in his good faith and send an SMS. It may not do so much harm to our
> Equal
>> opportunity demand and at the same time might land up giving the boy
> some
>> leverage.
>>
>> our demand for equal opportunity is a social norm that we need to
> establish
>> to persons outside of our realm of blindies. within our limited
> judgement
> if
>> we were to create a ground for one amongst us, the idea of social
> equality
>> may not become challengeable.
>>
>> none the same now the time to take action has passed, as our SMS's may
> hold
>> no value. but, perhaps in the future if such a request was found with
> a
> link
>> to our access india site allowing all to listen to the talent of any
>> candidate, then, not only would one be able to excercise ones own
> judgement
>> about the person concerned but also remove scope to any
> misunderstanding.
>>
>> i hope my opinion will not be met with offense.
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-12 Thread Dattu Agarwal Agarwal
hi list,
  i always tell that we don't want pity, we want opportunity. no body says 
diwakar should be voted just because he is blind.
  he is really a tallented boy. there is nothing wrong in supporting him.
  however it is also true that blind people get less opportunities to show 
their tallent. 
  whenever such situation comes we must encourage them instead of making it a 
conterversial issue.
  those who have not seen his performance may kindly watch Zee tv. on 14/9/2006 
at 10 p.m. 
  regards 
  dattu agarwal
   
   
  
BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  creating link in accessindia site, practically not possible, each company
and programme producer has its own copyright, however, to put anything on
site, you have to have a digital version of that particular object. i just
posted that matter because diwakar is a blind and has also a tallent to sing
a song. i was not a regular viewer of that particular programme, two or
three weeks ago, my friend rang me and told that some blind boy is appearing
on that particular tv show, then i started listening that programme, if he
just told that listen that particular programme, without referring diwakar
with his disability, i never listen such programme. secondly, after this
final show, i won't watch this programme, i believe on early to bed and
early to rise. say goodluck for diwakar and his show. thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "mufazal munshi" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> kirans point is taken, but since i believe that at least one of us has
> probably listened to the fellow or atleast Bhawani has, then, lets invest
> in his good faith and send an SMS. It may not do so much harm to our Equal
> opportunity demand and at the same time might land up giving the boy some
> leverage.
>
> our demand for equal opportunity is a social norm that we need to
establish
> to persons outside of our realm of blindies. within our limited judgement
if
> we were to create a ground for one amongst us, the idea of social equality
> may not become challengeable.
>
> none the same now the time to take action has passed, as our SMS's may
hold
> no value. but, perhaps in the future if such a request was found with a
link
> to our access india site allowing all to listen to the talent of any
> candidate, then, not only would one be able to excercise ones own
judgement
> about the person concerned but also remove scope to any misunderstanding.
>
> i hope my opinion will not be met with offense.
>
>


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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-12 Thread Kaja, Kiran
Actually, I do have a plan to start some sort of a talent corner on the
AI site where I give some space for blind musicians and people with
other talents to  put up their material for others to see.

Regards,
Kiran.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:12 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

creating link in accessindia site, practically not possible, each
company
and programme producer has its own copyright, however, to put anything
on
site, you have to have a digital version of that particular object.  i
just
posted that matter because diwakar is a blind and has also a tallent to
sing
a song.  i was not a regular viewer of that particular programme, two or
three weeks ago, my friend rang me and told that some blind boy is
appearing
on that particular tv show, then i started listening that programme, if
he
just told that listen that particular programme, without referring
diwakar
with his disability, i never listen such programme.  secondly, after
this
final show, i won't watch this programme, i believe on early to bed and
early to rise. say goodluck for diwakar and his show. thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "mufazal munshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> kirans point is taken, but since i believe that at least one of us has
> probably listened to the fellow or atleast Bhawani has, then, lets
invest
> in his good faith and send an SMS. It may not do so much harm to our
Equal
> opportunity demand and at the same time might land up giving the boy
some
> leverage.
>
> our demand for equal opportunity is a social norm that we need to
establish
> to persons outside of our realm of blindies. within our limited
judgement
if
> we were to create a ground for one amongst us, the idea of social
equality
> may not become challengeable.
>
> none the same now the time to take action has passed, as our SMS's may
hold
> no value. but, perhaps in the future if such a request was found with
a
link
> to our access india site allowing all to listen to the talent of any
> candidate, then, not only would one be able to excercise ones own
judgement
> about the person concerned but also remove scope to any
misunderstanding.
>
> i hope my opinion will not be met with offense.
>
>


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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-12 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
creating link in accessindia site, practically not possible, each company
and programme producer has its own copyright, however, to put anything on
site, you have to have a digital version of that particular object.  i just
posted that matter because diwakar is a blind and has also a tallent to sing
a song.  i was not a regular viewer of that particular programme, two or
three weeks ago, my friend rang me and told that some blind boy is appearing
on that particular tv show, then i started listening that programme, if he
just told that listen that particular programme, without referring diwakar
with his disability, i never listen such programme.  secondly, after this
final show, i won't watch this programme, i believe on early to bed and
early to rise. say goodluck for diwakar and his show. thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "mufazal munshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> kirans point is taken, but since i believe that at least one of us has
> probably listened to the fellow or atleast Bhawani has, then, lets invest
> in his good faith and send an SMS. It may not do so much harm to our Equal
> opportunity demand and at the same time might land up giving the boy some
> leverage.
>
> our demand for equal opportunity is a social norm that we need to
establish
> to persons outside of our realm of blindies. within our limited judgement
if
> we were to create a ground for one amongst us, the idea of social equality
> may not become challengeable.
>
> none the same now the time to take action has passed, as our SMS's may
hold
> no value. but, perhaps in the future if such a request was found with a
link
> to our access india site allowing all to listen to the talent of any
> candidate, then, not only would one be able to excercise ones own
judgement
> about the person concerned but also remove scope to any misunderstanding.
>
> i hope my opinion will not be met with offense.
>
>


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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-12 Thread mufazal munshi
kirans point is taken, but since i believe that at least one of us has 
probably listened to the fellow or atleast Bhawani has, then, lets invest 
in his good faith and send an SMS. It may not do so much harm to our Equal 
opportunity demand and at the same time might land up giving the boy some 
leverage.

our demand for equal opportunity is a social norm that we need to establish 
to persons outside of our realm of blindies. within our limited judgement if 
we were to create a ground for one amongst us, the idea of social equality 
may not become challengeable.

none the same now the time to take action has passed, as our SMS's may hold 
no value. but, perhaps in the future if such a request was found with a link 
to our access india site allowing all to listen to the talent of any 
candidate, then, not only would one be able to excercise ones own judgement 
about the person concerned but also remove scope to any misunderstanding.

i hope my opinion will not be met with offense.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mukesh Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> As I mentioned in my earlier posts, whether to vote or not to vote is an
> individual decision of each of us. We are just trying to discuss the
> topic. We are not going to pass a decree that all AI members should or
> should not vote. And when nearly 300 people discuss, there is bound to
> be difference of opinion. The whole point of this exercise is to
> understand each other's point of view. We do not have to agree with
> someone else. But it is sometimes better to know what other people think
> about an issue on which you have strong views. We should never take
> these discussions personally. I never blamed Bhavani for asking others
> to vote. I merely put forward my views on the matter for the
> consideration of others.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mukesh
> Sharma
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 10:46 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
> Hi,
> why people don't understand to take others view as it is even if they do
> not
> agree. Every one has some or the other thing different from some one.
> Thanks
> Mukesh Sharma
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Renuka Warriar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>>I fully support Kiran's opinion.  Without listening to a program how
> can
>>one
>> judge other's performance?  Mere blindness should not be the criterion
> for
>> a
>> vote.  If one wants to vote for this boy He/she should listen that
> program
>> carefully and decide on its merits.
>> With regards,
>> Renuka.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>> "This is one of these fields where
>>> blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground."
>>>
>>> So, what is the harm if this "...almost" is compensated for by
> some
>>> of
>>> votes irrespective of merits of the case?
>>>
>>> Rajesh.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:06 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>>
>>>
>>> > While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
>>> > represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds
> good
>>> > in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
>>> > should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a
> particular
>>> > community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you
> any
>>> > less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields
> where
>>> > blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same
> ground.
>>> > So,
>>> > voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our
> demand
>>> > for
>>> > equal treatment.
>>> >
>>> > Kiran.
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Kaja, Kiran
As I mentioned in my earlier posts, whether to vote or not to vote is an
individual decision of each of us. We are just trying to discuss the
topic. We are not going to pass a decree that all AI members should or
should not vote. And when nearly 300 people discuss, there is bound to
be difference of opinion. The whole point of this exercise is to
understand each other's point of view. We do not have to agree with
someone else. But it is sometimes better to know what other people think
about an issue on which you have strong views. We should never take
these discussions personally. I never blamed Bhavani for asking others
to vote. I merely put forward my views on the matter for the
consideration of others.

Regards,
Kiran.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mukesh
Sharma
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 10:46 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

Hi,
why people don't understand to take others view as it is even if they do
not 
agree. Every one has some or the other thing different from some one.
Thanks
Mukesh Sharma
- Original Message - 
From: "Renuka Warriar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


>I fully support Kiran's opinion.  Without listening to a program how
can 
>one
> judge other's performance?  Mere blindness should not be the criterion
for 
> a
> vote.  If one wants to vote for this boy He/she should listen that
program
> carefully and decide on its merits.
> With regards,
> Renuka.
> - Original Message -
> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> "This is one of these fields where
>> blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground."
>>
>> So, what is the harm if this "...almost" is compensated for by
some 
>> of
>> votes irrespective of merits of the case?
>>
>> Rajesh.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> > While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
>> > represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds
good
>> > in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
>> > should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a
particular
>> > community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you
any
>> > less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields
where
>> > blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same
ground. 
>> > So,
>> > voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our
demand 
>> > for
>> > equal treatment.
>> >
>> > Kiran.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh
>> > asudani
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:11 AM
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> > well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of
his
>> > talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do
not
>> > see
>> > any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
>> > persons,
>> > are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider
context.
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> > > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to

>> > > vote
>> > > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him
just
>> > > because of his blindness is discrimination.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Kiran.
>> > >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
BHAWANI
>> > > SHANKAR VERMA
>> > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
>> > > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> &g

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
if I would had discussion about other children competing with diwakar, then
this matter would be considered as an "off topic!" so, it was necessary to
introduced diwakar with "blind contestant" now up to some extent it is
proved that diwakar is a good singer, i just made an appeal to you all, to
help him for final.  the matter is upon individual, whether he votes or not.
because, this group is meant for visually challenged persons, i was of the
opinion that may be he will get at least 100 votes.  the matter of advantage
against disability concerned, it is my view that everyone either disabled or
not, wish to take advantage from where he can.  i shared this matter with my
sighted colleagues in my office, without introducing diwakar as a blind
person, out of 16 12 have not listened him yet, and 14 have voted for him,
after their votes, i introduce diwakar as a blind person, now my colleagues
are eagerly waiting for the final show.  thanks.

- Original Message -
From: "Anubha Bhargava" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Very true, I completely agree with Kiran.  Diwakar should not be voted
> for only because he is blind.  People should only vote for him when
> according to them he is singing well & deservers victory, not because he
is
> blind.
> With thanks & regards.  ANUBHA.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
sending
> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> listen
> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless
I
> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
> for
> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What
I
> > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
> blind.
> > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kiran.
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I have voted.
> > Thanks and regards.
> > Suresh Kulkarni.
> > --- Original Message -
> > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > >i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
> > >  cheers
> > >  dattu agarwal
> > >
> > > Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >  I will. Best wishes.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> > > To: "accessindia"
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> > > Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > >> hello accessindia!
> > >>
> > >> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
> > >> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
> > >> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
> > >> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
> > >> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
> > >> final of zee saregama.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> > >> CELL : 91-98271-57594
> > >> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
> > >> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
> > >> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Mukesh Sharma
Hi,
why people don't understand to take others view as it is even if they do not 
agree. Every one has some or the other thing different from some one.
Thanks
Mukesh Sharma
- Original Message - 
From: "Renuka Warriar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


>I fully support Kiran's opinion.  Without listening to a program how can 
>one
> judge other's performance?  Mere blindness should not be the criterion for 
> a
> vote.  If one wants to vote for this boy He/she should listen that program
> carefully and decide on its merits.
> With regards,
> Renuka.
> - Original Message -
> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> "This is one of these fields where
>> blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground."
>>
>> So, what is the harm if this "...almost" is compensated for by some 
>> of
>> votes irrespective of merits of the case?
>>
>> Rajesh.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> > While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
>> > represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds good
>> > in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
>> > should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a particular
>> > community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you any
>> > less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields where
>> > blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground. 
>> > So,
>> > voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our demand 
>> > for
>> > equal treatment.
>> >
>> > Kiran.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh
>> > asudani
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:11 AM
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> > well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
>> > talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not
>> > see
>> > any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
>> > persons,
>> > are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> > > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to 
>> > > vote
>> > > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
>> > > because of his blindness is discrimination.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Kiran.
>> > >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
>> > > SHANKAR VERMA
>> > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
>> > > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> > >
>> > > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
>> > events.
>> > > he
>> > > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>> > >
>> > > - Original Message -
>> > > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: 
>> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Yes Kiran,
>> > > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg 
>> > > > of
>> > > his
>> > > > disability. and people have already started forming negative 
>> > > > opinion
>> > > about
>> > > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
>> > > again

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
you should wait for the final programme, if he would there.

- Original Message -
From: "Renuka Warriar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> I fully support Kiran's opinion.  Without listening to a program how can
one
> judge other's performance?  Mere blindness should not be the criterion for
a
> vote.  If one wants to vote for this boy He/she should listen that program
> carefully and decide on its merits.
> With regards,
> Renuka.
> - Original Message -
> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > "This is one of these fields where
> > blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground."
> >
> > So, what is the harm if this "...almost" is compensated for by some
of
> > votes irrespective of merits of the case?
> >
> > Rajesh.
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > > While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
> > > represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds
good
> > > in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
> > > should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a particular
> > > community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you
any
> > > less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields
where
> > > blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground.
So,
> > > voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our demand
for
> > > equal treatment.
> > >
> > > Kiran.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh
> > > asudani
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:11 AM
> > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > > well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
> > > talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not
> > > see
> > > any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
> > > persons,
> > > are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > > > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to
vote
> > > > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him
just
> > > > because of his blindness is discrimination.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kiran.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> > > > SHANKAR VERMA
> > > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> > > > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > > >
> > > > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
> > > events.
> > > > he
> > > > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yes Kiran,
> > > > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg
of
> > > > his
> > > > > disability. and people have already started forming negative
opinion
> > > > about
> > > > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> > > > against
> > > > > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> > > > >
> > > > > - Original Message -
> &g

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Rohan
Yes there is no doubt that he is a good singer. I watch this realaty show
regularly.
I also want to chip in the discussion.

I had seen almost every performance of Diwakar and when he got out it was
very sad too.
But what i noticed that when he use to sing there was some problem in his
pitch which was also noticed by the three judges and told him many times
that who so ever is teaching you should correct his pitch.  One more thing
judges also use to mention that he is missing some expression and some
feeling is needed in the song.   So when he got out according to me he was
out only because of pitch problem, expressions and one of you had shared
that no sponser would like to make a Blind winner on such a show which is
loved by the whole country.  You all know that why nowadays singers are
also asked to learn how to perform on the stage while he or she is singing.
everybody is calling back Diwakar and other 5 singers to come and join the
other 5 in the finals,  because on the basis of talent.
So I am very much clear that there will be  some politics in choosing the
6th one.
I will apreciate that Diwakaer went in such a competition and reached in
last 10 with no fear.  i think he gave his best inner talent there and he 
also made
an effort to improve himself after his poor grades.  I would like to mention
the children who are already there in the TOP5 they are so good that even if 
the judges will take Diwakar on the basis of his disability then he will get
out of the show in the next episode because of  other five singers that they
are so good that i know one of the girls will win the title.  He showed his
best of the talent and now there are some more better children then him so i
feel if  he is not selected this time then he  should come to the show again
correcting his mistakes and try to show to India that he will win on the
basis of talent and not on the basis of blindness.

Enjoy

Rohan

- Original Message - 
From: "Dinesh Kaushal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> He is a very good singer, and such advice to vote for him only for his
> blindness is rebukeing his talent.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
>> for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
>> because of his blindness is discrimination.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
>> SHANKAR VERMA
>> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
>> To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>> he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.
>> he
>> was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>> Yes Kiran,
>>>  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
>> his
>>> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
>> about
>>> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
>> against
>>> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>>
>>>
>>> >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
>> sending
>>> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
>> but if
>>> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>>> > listen
>>> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
>> listener
>>> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
>> blind
>>> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
>> unless
>> I
>>> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
>> criteria
>>> > for
>>> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
>> assumptions
>>> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in deta

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Anubha Bhargava
Very true, I completely agree with Kiran.  Diwakar should not be voted
for only because he is blind.  People should only vote for him when
according to them he is singing well & deservers victory, not because he is
blind.
With thanks & regards.  ANUBHA.

- Original Message -
From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people sending
> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
listen
> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless I
> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
for
> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What I
> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
blind.
> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>
> Yes, I have voted.
> Thanks and regards.
> Suresh Kulkarni.
> --- Original Message -
> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> >i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
> >  cheers
> >  dattu agarwal
> >
> > Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  I will. Best wishes.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> > To: "accessindia"
> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> > Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >> hello accessindia!
> >>
> >> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
> >> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
> >> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
> >> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
> >> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
> >> final of zee saregama.
> >>
> >>
> >> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> >> CELL : 91-98271-57594
> >> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
> >> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
> >> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
> >>
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
He is a very good singer, and such advice to vote for him only for his 
blindness is rebukeing his talent.


- Original Message - 
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> because of his blindness is discrimination.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> SHANKAR VERMA
> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
> he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.
> he
> was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> Yes Kiran,
>>  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> his
>> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> about
>> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> against
>> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> sending
>> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> but if
>> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>> > listen
>> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> listener
>> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
> blind
>> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> unless
> I
>> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> criteria
>> > for
>> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
> assumptions
>> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
> What
> I
>> > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
> is
>> > blind.
>> > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Kiran.
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Yes, I have voted.
>> > Thanks and regards.
>> > Suresh Kulkarni.
>> > --- Original Message -
>> > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > 
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond
> positively
>> >>  cheers
>> >>  dattu agarwal
>> >>
>> >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>  I will. Best wishes.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>> >> To: "accessindia"
>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>> >> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> hello accessindia!
>> >>>
>> >>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda
> saregama
>> >>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i
> request
>> >>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
>> >>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006.
> please
>> >>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
>> >>> final of zee saregama.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>> >>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
>> >>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Renuka Warriar
I fully support Kiran's opinion.  Without listening to a program how can one
judge other's performance?  Mere blindness should not be the criterion for a
vote.  If one wants to vote for this boy He/she should listen that program
carefully and decide on its merits.
With regards,
Renuka.
- Original Message -
From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> "This is one of these fields where
> blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground."
>
> So, what is the harm if this "...almost" is compensated for by some of
> votes irrespective of merits of the case?
>
> Rajesh.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
> > represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds good
> > in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
> > should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a particular
> > community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you any
> > less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields where
> > blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground. So,
> > voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our demand for
> > equal treatment.
> >
> > Kiran.
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh
> > asudani
> > Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:11 AM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> > well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
> > talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not
> > see
> > any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
> > persons,
> > are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> > > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> > > because of his blindness is discrimination.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kiran.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> > > SHANKAR VERMA
> > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> > > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
> > events.
> > > he
> > > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes Kiran,
> > > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> > > his
> > > > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> > > about
> > > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> > > against
> > > > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> > > sending
> > > > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> > > but if
> > > > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has
> > to
> > > > > listen
> > > > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> > > listener
&g

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Vedprakash Sharma
This is not true as for as my experiences tell me. before i got a job, i 
tried to establish myself in local orchestras in Delhi. generally, the 
reputed groups like The Bullets did not give me a chance only because of 
blindness. when it comes to the showmenship, it is not the tallent but the 
qualities like approachfulness, finding favours and the buttering which are 
more helpful.
- Original Message - 
From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> "This is one of these fields where
> blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground."
>
> So, what is the harm if this "...almost" is compensated for by some of
> votes irrespective of merits of the case?
>
> Rajesh.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
>> represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds good
>> in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
>> should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a particular
>> community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you any
>> less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields where
>> blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground. So,
>> voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our demand for
>> equal treatment.
>>
>> Kiran.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh
>> asudani
>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:11 AM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>> well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
>> talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not
>> see
>> any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
>> persons,
>> are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
>> > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
>> > because of his blindness is discrimination.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Kiran.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
>> > SHANKAR VERMA
>> > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
>> > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
>> events.
>> > he
>> > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> > > Yes Kiran,
>> > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
>> > his
>> > > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
>> > about
>> > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
>> > against
>> > > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>> > >
>> > > - Original Message -
>> > > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > To: 
>> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
>> > sending
>> > > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
>> > but if
>> > > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has
>> to
>> > > > listen
>> > > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
>> > listener
>&g

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Vedprakash Sharma
Hi friends,
One should take the matter practically. today, everybody takes advantage of 
whatever he/she can. on TV shows like the zee Sa Re Ga Ma, sms's are sent by 
friends and acquaintences not on the basis of performances but purely on the 
kind of approaches and other considerations than merit. In the case of 
Diwakar, being a music-lover, I can assure, it is up to the mark. so there 
is nothing wrong in my view if some of us suggest the group to vote for a 
person not purely on merit but for some other considerations.
Regards.

- Original Message - 
From: "Taraprakash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> To put it in proper perspective.
> The program concerned here is one of many such weird programs. (I must
> acknowledge that My experience is limited to an unfortunate listening of 
> an
> episode of Indian Idol).
>
> I agree that just because someone is blind you shouldn't vote for him, you
> must look for the talent. However, the candidates are voted by the viewers
> in such programs for their looks and how much nonsense they can talk.
> (I am sorry for using such words to those who listen to such programs
> religiously)
> If that is the case, there is no harm voting for the blind person just
> because he is blind, (one of the community, according to some of us)
> Anyway, contestants are not supported for their talent for music.
> I have also heard that the producers manipulate the number of  votes any
> candidate gets on the basis how much useful that candidate going to be in
> future for the sponsors.
> A winner is definitely going to be more popular and one who is popular is
> going to be a useful good brand ambassador.
>
> If this person has reached a particular level, it must be because of his
> talent and also perhaps because of a desirable personality, not much idea
> bout it.
> I, anyhow,  wish him luck.
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> Yes Kiran,
>> I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of his
>> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion 
>> about
>> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its 
>> against
>> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>>I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people 
>>>sending
>>> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
>>> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>>> listen
>>> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
>>> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
>>> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless
>>> I
>>> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
>>> for
>>> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
>>> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What
>>> I
>>> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
>>> blind.
>>> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kiran.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, I have voted.
>>> Thanks and regards.
>>> Suresh Kulkarni.
>>> --- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>>> 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>>
>>>
>>>>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>>>>  cheers
>>>>  dattu agarwal
>>>>
>>>> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>  I will. Best wishes.
>

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread bhola_dheerajdelhi
Yes bhawani, I am totally agree with you. I would like to ask people, what
they do when the people with lots of talent are neglected because of there
disability?
- Original Message -
From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> the time is over! however, i spent just 3 rupees from my prepaid cell
phone.
> honestly, i am speeking, i voted diwakar, first for his blindness,
secondly
> for his tallent.  sighted people have lots of infrastructure to get such
> thing, may be diwakar could not be easily entered in such competition, may
> be he faced lots of difficulties to take participation in this event.   if
> due to my disability, i am able to get some advantage without hurting my
> society, what's the matter?
> - Original Message -
> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
> > talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not
see
> > any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
persons,
> > are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> > > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> > > because of his blindness is discrimination.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kiran.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> > > SHANKAR VERMA
> > > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> > > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
events.
> > > he
> > > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes Kiran,
> > > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> > > his
> > > > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> > > about
> > > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> > > against
> > > > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> > > sending
> > > > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> > > but if
> > > > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has
to
> > > > > listen
> > > > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> > > listener
> > > > > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
> > > blind
> > > > > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> > > unless
> > > I
> > > > > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> > > criteria
> > > > > for
> > > > > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
> > > assumptions
> > > > > about the context and also have not followed this thread in
detail.
> > > What
> > > I
> > > > > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
> > > is
> > > > > blind.
> > > > > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kiran.
> > > > > -Origi

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Suresh
Dear Sir,

Kindly go right bellow the replied messages.

Yes, I have voted.

Thanks and regards.
Suresh Kulkarni.
Mob: +919869326498
E-mail id:
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"
I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet."

- Original Message - 
From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> sir, now the time is over! one thing i would like to add in this 
> discussion,
> up to some extent people are rejected due to their blindness, not on the
> ground of their tallent.  i had almost four years of experience in this
> group, i received lots of mails, which says, that a visually impaired 
> person
> gone for an interview, and he rejected just on the ground of his/her
> blindness.  suppose, if he or she would be selected, and would be working 
> as
> an executive of that particular company, what would you say, "the company
> selected him/her on the ground of blindness, not on his/her tallent" 
> rather
> we can say, i am working in punjab national bank, the bank has selected me
> on the ground of blindness, not on my tallent?  it is my experience of my
> life, that a blind person never born with a lollypop on his hands, thanks.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Suresh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>>
>>
>> Please advise me what to do in this case. Now, there are difference
> of
>> opinions.
>> Thanks and regards.
>> Suresh Kulkarni.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> > he is undoubtedly tallented, i can not post his songs in the list, so,
> it
>> > is
>> > practically difficult to say, i cdid not post such that message because
> of
>> > his blindness, but, due to his real tallent, he is really a good 
>> > singer,
>> > due
>> > to shortage of some votes, may be he won't reach up to final.  access
>> > india
>> > is the only list where i would like to introduce him.  blindness is a
>> > secondary reason to post the message. thanks.
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >> I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
>> >> sending
>> >> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but
> if
>> >> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>> > listen
>> >> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the 
>> >> listener
>> >> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being 
>> >> blind
>> >> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> unless
>> >> I
>> >> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> criteria
>> > for
>> >> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain 
>> >> assumptions
>> >> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
> What
>> >> I
>> >> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
>> > blind.
>> >> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Kiran.
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>> >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I have voted.
>> >> Thanks and regards.
>> >> Suresh Kulkarni.
>> >> --- Original Message -
>> >> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> >> 
>> >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >>
>> >>
&g

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Subramani L
As Kirn mentioned, we can't come to a conclusion without listening to
the person. So, it's probably not appropriate to say that the guy has
come up so far because he is blind.

Subramani

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:51 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

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Dear Dr. Rohit Trivedi,

Would you mind naming the people? So that AI members will know the 
facts.
Thanks and regards.
Suresh Kulkarni.
- Original Message - 
From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
events. 
> he
> was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> Yes Kiran,
>>  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
his
>> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion 
>> about
>> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its 
>> against
>> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> sending
>> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
but 
>> > if
>> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has
to
>> > listen
>> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
listener
>> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
blind
>> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him 
>> > unless
> I
>> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the 
>> > criteria
>> > for
>> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
assumptions
>> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.

>> > What
> I
>> > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
is
>> > blind.
>> > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Kiran.
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Yes, I have voted.
>> > Thanks and regards.
>> > Suresh Kulkarni.
>> > --- Original Message -
>> > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > 
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond
positively
>> >>  cheers
>> >>  dattu agarwal
>> >>
>> >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>  I will. Best wishes.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>> >> To: "accessindia"
>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>> >> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> hello accessindia!
>> >>>
>> >>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda
saregama
>> >>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i
request
>> >>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
>> >>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006.
please
>> >>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
>> >>> final of zee saregama.
>> >>>
>> &

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
the time is over! however, i spent just 3 rupees from my prepaid cell phone.
honestly, i am speeking, i voted diwakar, first for his blindness, secondly
for his tallent.  sighted people have lots of infrastructure to get such
thing, may be diwakar could not be easily entered in such competition, may
be he faced lots of difficulties to take participation in this event.   if
due to my disability, i am able to get some advantage without hurting my
society, what's the matter?
- Original Message -
From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
> talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not see
> any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind persons,
> are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> > because of his blindness is discrimination.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kiran.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> > SHANKAR VERMA
> > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.
> > he
> > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > > Yes Kiran,
> > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> > his
> > > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> > about
> > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> > against
> > > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> > sending
> > > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> > but if
> > > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> > > > listen
> > > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> > listener
> > > > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
> > blind
> > > > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> > unless
> > I
> > > > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> > criteria
> > > > for
> > > > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
> > assumptions
> > > > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
> > What
> > I
> > > > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
> > is
> > > > blind.
> > > > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kiran.
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> > > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Yes, I have voted.
> > > > Thanks and regards.
> > > > Suresh Kulkarni.
> > > > --- Original Message -
> > > > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAK

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread rajesh asudani
"This is one of these fields where
blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground."

So, what is the harm if this "...almost" is compensated for by some of
votes irrespective of merits of the case?

Rajesh.



- Original Message -
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
> represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds good
> in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
> should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a particular
> community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you any
> less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields where
> blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground. So,
> voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our demand for
> equal treatment.
>
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh
> asudani
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:11 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
> well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
> talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not
> see
> any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
> persons,
> are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> > because of his blindness is discrimination.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kiran.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> > SHANKAR VERMA
> > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
> events.
> > he
> > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > > Yes Kiran,
> > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> > his
> > > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> > about
> > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> > against
> > > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> > sending
> > > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> > but if
> > > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has
> to
> > > > listen
> > > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> > listener
> > > > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
> > blind
> > > > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> > unless
> > I
> > > > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> > criteria
> > > > for
> > > > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
> > assumptions
> > > > about the context and also have not followed this thread in
> detail.
> > What
> > I
> > > > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
> > is
> > > > blind.
> > > > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kiran.
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Sures

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
sir, now the time is over! one thing i would like to add in this discussion,
up to some extent people are rejected due to their blindness, not on the
ground of their tallent.  i had almost four years of experience in this
group, i received lots of mails, which says, that a visually impaired person
gone for an interview, and he rejected just on the ground of his/her
blindness.  suppose, if he or she would be selected, and would be working as
an executive of that particular company, what would you say, "the company
selected him/her on the ground of blindness, not on his/her tallent" rather
we can say, i am working in punjab national bank, the bank has selected me
on the ground of blindness, not on my tallent?  it is my experience of my
life, that a blind person never born with a lollypop on his hands, thanks.

- Original Message -
From: "Suresh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


>
>
> Please advise me what to do in this case. Now, there are difference
of
> opinions.
> Thanks and regards.
> Suresh Kulkarni.
> - Original Message -
> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > he is undoubtedly tallented, i can not post his songs in the list, so,
it
> > is
> > practically difficult to say, i cdid not post such that message because
of
> > his blindness, but, due to his real tallent, he is really a good singer,
> > due
> > to shortage of some votes, may be he won't reach up to final.  access
> > india
> > is the only list where i would like to introduce him.  blindness is a
> > secondary reason to post the message. thanks.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >> I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> >> sending
> >> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but
if
> >> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> > listen
> >> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
> >> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
> >> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
unless
> >> I
> >> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
criteria
> > for
> >> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
> >> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
What
> >> I
> >> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
> > blind.
> >> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Kiran.
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, I have voted.
> >> Thanks and regards.
> >> Suresh Kulkarni.
> >> --- Original Message -
> >> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> >> 
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >>
> >>
> >> >i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
> >> >  cheers
> >> >  dattu agarwal
> >> >
> >> > Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >  I will. Best wishes.
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> >> > To: "accessindia"
> >> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> >> > Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> hello accessindia!
> >> >>
> >> >> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
> >> >> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
> >> >> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
> >> >> "diwa

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread RNS Yadav
Hi,
One most imporrtant thing which we must not forget here is that the sponsor 
of the program is Hero Honda and they will never want a blind person to be 
their brand ambassador.

Therefore, every effort will be made to prevent Diwakar from winning the 
contest. This could be achieved easily by manipulating the number of votes 
received by him.
- Original Message - 
From: "Suresh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Dear Dr. Rohit Trivedi,
>
>Would you mind naming the people? So that AI members will know the
> facts.
> Thanks and regards.
> Suresh Kulkarni.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.
>> he
>> was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>> Yes Kiran,
>>>  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of his
>>> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
>>> about
>>> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
>>> against
>>> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>>
>>>
>>> >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
>> sending
>>> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but
>>> > if
>>> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>>> > listen
>>> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the 
>>> > listener
>>> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being 
>>> > blind
>>> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
>>> > unless
>> I
>>> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
>>> > criteria
>>> > for
>>> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain 
>>> > assumptions
>>> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
>>> > What
>> I
>>> > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
>>> > blind.
>>> > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Kiran.
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Yes, I have voted.
>>> > Thanks and regards.
>>> > Suresh Kulkarni.
>>> > --- Original Message -
>>> > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>>> > 
>>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>>> >>  cheers
>>> >>  dattu agarwal
>>> >>
>>> >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >>  I will. Best wishes.
>>> >>
>>> >> - Original Message -
>>> >> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>>> >> To: "accessindia"
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>>> >> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> hello accessindia!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
>>> >>> 

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Kaja, Kiran
While I agree that we should be united to form a pressure group to
represent an issue, I am not sure if this principal of unity holds good
in this context. We are talking of a competition where only talent
should matter and not if a person is blind or belongs to a particular
community. I seriously don't think that being blind should make you any
less talented when it comes to music. This is one of these fields where
blind people can compete with the sighted on almost the same ground. So,
voting for this boy just because he is blind goes against our demand for
equal treatment.

Kiran.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh
asudani
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2006 1:11 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not
see
any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind
persons,
are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.


- Original Message -
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> because of his blindness is discrimination.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> SHANKAR VERMA
> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
> he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all
events.
> he
> was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > Yes Kiran,
> >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> his
> > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> about
> > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> against
> > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> sending
> > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> but if
> > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has
to
> > > listen
> > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> listener
> > > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
> blind
> > > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> unless
> I
> > > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> criteria
> > > for
> > > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
> assumptions
> > > about the context and also have not followed this thread in
detail.
> What
> I
> > > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
> is
> > > blind.
> > > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kiran.
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Suresh
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes, I have voted.
> > > Thanks and regards.
> > > Suresh Kulkarni.
> > > --- Original Message -
> > > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond
> positively
> > >>  cheers
> > >>  dattu agarwal
> > >>
> > >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>  I will. Best wishes.
> > >>
> &g

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread Viraj Kafle
Yes. You're absolutely right in my opinion. In fact, in such programs, what
happens is that the real tallent of a person takes a backseat, and the
comunity politics becomes more important. People vote for their family
members, relatives, friends and their fellow comunity members, and so should
we, I firmly believe.

In fact, the issue is not only that we must vote because he is blind. The
thing is a blind person, despite his talent, keeps on getting rejected in
the normal world, and this rejection can be seen in various fields and is
done in various manners, direct as well as indirect. Those blind people  who
participate in music compititions will surely testify to the fact that very
often, people have disqualified them despite the fact that their performance
had been more than of A level.

Of course, the voting for Diwakar is over now, but I am still putting my
views because, I feel, the issue in question here is not only concerned with
that definitely tallented child, but with every blind person whom the world
refuse to acknowledge despite their tallents and abilities. We, as those who
can empathise with such tallented people, must support them in every field.


Best regards

Viraj.

- Original Message -
From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
> talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not see
> any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind persons,
> are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> > for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> > because of his blindness is discrimination.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kiran.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> > SHANKAR VERMA
> > Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> > To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> > he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.
> > he
> > was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > > Yes Kiran,
> > >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> > his
> > > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> > about
> > > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> > against
> > > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> > sending
> > > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> > but if
> > > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> > > > listen
> > > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> > listener
> > > > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
> > blind
> > > > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> > unless
> > I
> > > > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> > criteria
> > > > for
> > > > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
> > assumptions
> > > > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
> > What
> > I
> > > > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
> > is
> > > > blind.
> > > > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kiran.
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Be

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-11 Thread rajesh asudani
well, those who have not heard him and so  are not quite sure of his
talents, can not they just vote for him due to his blindness? I do not see
any discrimination, and perhaps this is the reason we, the blind persons,
are not able to lobby and form a pressure group in the wider context.


- Original Message -
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
> for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
> because of his blindness is discrimination.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
> SHANKAR VERMA
> Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
> To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
> he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.
> he
> was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> > Yes Kiran,
> >  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
> his
> > disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
> about
> > him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
> against
> > the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> > >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> sending
> > > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
> but if
> > > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> > > listen
> > > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
> listener
> > > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
> blind
> > > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
> unless
> I
> > > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
> criteria
> > > for
> > > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
> assumptions
> > > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
> What
> I
> > > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
> is
> > > blind.
> > > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kiran.
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes, I have voted.
> > > Thanks and regards.
> > > Suresh Kulkarni.
> > > --- Original Message -
> > > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >
> > >
> > >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond
> positively
> > >>  cheers
> > >>  dattu agarwal
> > >>
> > >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>  I will. Best wishes.
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> > >> To: "accessindia"
> > >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> > >> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> hello accessindia!
> > >>>
> > >>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda
> saregama
> > >>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i
> request
> > >>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
> > >>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006.
> please
> > >>> help this little diwakar "blind co

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Suresh
Dear Dr. Rohit Trivedi,

Would you mind naming the people? So that AI members will know the 
facts.
Thanks and regards.
Suresh Kulkarni.
- Original Message - 
From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events. 
> he
> was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> Yes Kiran,
>>  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of his
>> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion 
>> about
>> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its 
>> against
>> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>>
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
> sending
>> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but 
>> > if
>> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>> > listen
>> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
>> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
>> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him 
>> > unless
> I
>> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the 
>> > criteria
>> > for
>> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
>> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. 
>> > What
> I
>> > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
>> > blind.
>> > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Kiran.
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Yes, I have voted.
>> > Thanks and regards.
>> > Suresh Kulkarni.
>> > --- Original Message -
>> > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> > 
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>> >>  cheers
>> >>  dattu agarwal
>> >>
>> >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>  I will. Best wishes.
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>> >> To: "accessindia"
>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>> >> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> hello accessindia!
>> >>>
>> >>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
>> >>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
>> >>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
>> >>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
>> >>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
>> >>> final of zee saregama.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>> >>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
>> >>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
>> >>> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
>> >>> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> DISCLAIMER:
>> >>> The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the
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>> >&g

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Suresh


Please advise me what to do in this case. Now, there are difference  of 
opinions.
Thanks and regards.
Suresh Kulkarni.
- Original Message - 
From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> he is undoubtedly tallented, i can not post his songs in the list, so, it 
> is
> practically difficult to say, i cdid not post such that message because of
> his blindness, but, due to his real tallent, he is really a good singer, 
> due
> to shortage of some votes, may be he won't reach up to final.  access 
> india
> is the only list where i would like to introduce him.  blindness is a
> secondary reason to post the message. thanks.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people 
>> sending
>> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
>> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> listen
>> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
>> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
>> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless 
>> I
>> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
> for
>> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
>> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What 
>> I
>> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
> blind.
>> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran.
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>
>>     Yes, I have voted.
>> Thanks and regards.
>> Suresh Kulkarni.
>> --- Original Message -
>> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>> >i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>> >  cheers
>> >  dattu agarwal
>> >
>> > Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >  I will. Best wishes.
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>> > To: "accessindia"
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>> > Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>> >
>> >
>> >> hello accessindia!
>> >>
>> >> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
>> >> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
>> >> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
>> >> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
>> >> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
>> >> final of zee saregama.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>> >> CELL : 91-98271-57594
>> >> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
>> >> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
>> >> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
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Re: [AI] vote for little diwakar

2006-09-10 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
friends! let us close this chapter here now, the time is now over to vote
for him.  so, we have to wait for the final decision.  thanks.

- Original Message -
From: "RNS Yadav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nikhil Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] vote for little diwakar


> Hi,
> Why should one vote for him? Just because he is blind?
> - Original Message -
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> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:09 AM
> Subject: [AI] vote for little diwakar
>
>
>
> Hi friends,
> Please vote for little diwakar. He seems to be a good future prospect.
> Atleast we are expected to vote for him and help him scoring points. Wish
> him good luck.
> Nikhil
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Kaja, Kiran
May be he has done well, but most of us who are being advised  to vote
for him have not heard him perform. In this case, voting for him just
because of his blindness is discrimination.

Regards,
Kiran.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Monday, 11 September 2006 10:05 AM
To: Rohit Trivedi; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.
he
was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.

- Original Message -
From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Yes Kiran,
>  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of
his
> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion
about
> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its
against
> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
sending
> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances,
but if
> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> > listen
> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the
listener
> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being
blind
> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him
unless
I
> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the
criteria
> > for
> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain
assumptions
> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail.
What
I
> > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he
is
> > blind.
> > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kiran.
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >
> >Yes, I have voted.
> > Thanks and regards.
> > Suresh Kulkarni.
> > --- Original Message -
> > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond
positively
> >>  cheers
> >>  dattu agarwal
> >>
> >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  I will. Best wishes.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> >> To: "accessindia"
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> >> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >>
> >>
> >>> hello accessindia!
> >>>
> >>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda
saregama
> >>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i
request
> >>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
> >>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006.
please
> >>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
> >>> final of zee saregama.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> >>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
> >>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
> >>> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
> >>> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> DISCLAIMER:
> >>> The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the
> >>> addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged.
Access
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> >>> copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by
the
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not
> >>> the intended recipient then kindly delete the mail from your
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
he is undoubtedly tallented, i can not post his songs in the list, so, it is
practically difficult to say, i cdid not post such that message because of
his blindness, but, due to his real tallent, he is really a good singer, due
to shortage of some votes, may be he won't reach up to final.  access india
is the only list where i would like to introduce him.  blindness is a
secondary reason to post the message. thanks.

- Original Message -
From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people sending
> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
listen
> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless I
> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
for
> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What I
> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
blind.
> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>
> Yes, I have voted.
> Thanks and regards.
> Suresh Kulkarni.
> --- Original Message -
> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> >i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
> >  cheers
> >  dattu agarwal
> >
> > Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  I will. Best wishes.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> > To: "accessindia"
> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> > Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >> hello accessindia!
> >>
> >> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
> >> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
> >> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
> >> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
> >> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
> >> final of zee saregama.
> >>
> >>
> >> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> >> CELL : 91-98271-57594
> >> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
> >> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
he already reached upto semifinal.  he performed his best in all events.  he
was not sitting just idal in any of programmes.

- Original Message -
From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Yes Kiran,
>  I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of his
> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion about
> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its against
> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
> >I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people
sending
> > SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
> > this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> > listen
> > to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
> > thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
> > should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless
I
> > listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
> > for
> > someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
> > about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What
I
> > wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
> > blind.
> > If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kiran.
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >
> >Yes, I have voted.
> > Thanks and regards.
> > Suresh Kulkarni.
> > --- Original Message -
> > From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >
> >
> >>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
> >>  cheers
> >>  dattu agarwal
> >>
> >> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>  I will. Best wishes.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> >> To: "accessindia"
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> >> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
> >>
> >>
> >>> hello accessindia!
> >>>
> >>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
> >>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
> >>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
> >>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
> >>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
> >>> final of zee saregama.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> >>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
> >>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
> >>> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
> >>> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
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Re: [AI] vote for little diwakar

2006-09-10 Thread RNS Yadav
Hi,
Why should one vote for him? Just because he is blind?
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:09 AM
Subject: [AI] vote for little diwakar



Hi friends,
Please vote for little diwakar. He seems to be a good future prospect. 
Atleast we are expected to vote for him and help him scoring points. Wish 
him good luck.
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[AI] vote for little diwakar

2006-09-10 Thread Nikhil Jain
  
Hi friends,
Please vote for little diwakar. He seems to be a good future prospect. Atleast 
we are expected to vote for him and help him scoring points. Wish him good luck.
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Suresh


Sorry.
Thanks and regards.
Suresh Kulkarni.
 Original Message - 
From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Yes Kiran,
> I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of his
> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion about
> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its against
> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>>I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people sending
>> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
>> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>> listen
>> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
>> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
>> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless 
>> I
>> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
>> for
>> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
>> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What 
>> I
>> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
>> blind.
>> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>
>>Yes, I have voted.
>> Thanks and regards.
>> Suresh Kulkarni.
>> --- Original Message -
>> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>>>  cheers
>>>  dattu agarwal
>>>
>>> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  I will. Best wishes.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>>> To: "accessindia"
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello accessindia!
>>>>
>>>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
>>>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
>>>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
>>>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
>>>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
>>>> final of zee saregama.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>>>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
>>>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
>>>> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
>>>> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Taraprakash
To put it in proper perspective.
The program concerned here is one of many such weird programs. (I must 
acknowledge that My experience is limited to an unfortunate listening of an 
episode of Indian Idol).

I agree that just because someone is blind you shouldn't vote for him, you 
must look for the talent. However, the candidates are voted by the viewers 
in such programs for their looks and how much nonsense they can talk.
(I am sorry for using such words to those who listen to such programs 
religiously)
If that is the case, there is no harm voting for the blind person just 
because he is blind, (one of the community, according to some of us)
Anyway, contestants are not supported for their talent for music.
I have also heard that the producers manipulate the number of  votes any 
candidate gets on the basis how much useful that candidate going to be in 
future for the sponsors.
A winner is definitely going to be more popular and one who is popular is 
going to be a useful good brand ambassador.

If this person has reached a particular level, it must be because of his 
talent and also perhaps because of a desirable personality, not much idea 
bout it.
I, anyhow,  wish him luck.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rohit Trivedi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> Yes Kiran,
> I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of his
> disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion about
> him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its against
> the very idea of inclusion. Rohit
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>>I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people sending
>> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
>> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
>> listen
>> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
>> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
>> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless 
>> I
>> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
>> for
>> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
>> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What 
>> I
>> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
>> blind.
>> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran.
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>
>>Yes, I have voted.
>> Thanks and regards.
>> Suresh Kulkarni.
>> --- Original Message -
>> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>>>  cheers
>>>  dattu agarwal
>>>
>>> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  I will. Best wishes.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>>> To: "accessindia"
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>>
>>>
>>>> hello accessindia!
>>>>
>>>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
>>>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
>>>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
>>>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
>>>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
>>>> final of zee saregama.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>>>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
>>>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
>>>> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
>>>> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DISCLAIMER:
>>>> The Information transmitted in t

Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Rohit Trivedi
Yes Kiran,
 I  too agree with you. The boy is trying to take undue advanteg  of his
disability. and people have already started forming negative opinion about
him. How dare someone ask the judges for favour/consideration. its against 
the very idea of inclusion. Rohit

- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


>I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people sending
> SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
> this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to
> listen
> to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
> thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
> should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless I
> listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria
> for
> someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
> about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What I
> wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is
> blind.
> If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>
>Yes, I have voted.
> Thanks and regards.
> Suresh Kulkarni.
> --- Original Message -
> From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>>  cheers
>>  dattu agarwal
>>
>> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  I will. Best wishes.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
>> To: "accessindia"
>> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
>> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>>
>>
>>> hello accessindia!
>>>
>>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama
>>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request
>>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write
>>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please
>>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on
>>> final of zee saregama.
>>>
>>>
>>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
>>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
>>> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
>>> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
>>>
>>>
>>> DISCLAIMER:
>>> The Information transmitted in this email is solely for the
>>> addressee. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access
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>>> copying, distribution or any action taken by anyone other than by the
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Kiran Kaja
I am not aware of this context's exact rules or what affect people sending
SMS  messages voting for the blind boy would have on his chances, but if
this is a music competition as I understand it is, and if one has to listen
to the program and vote for a participant depending on how the listener
thinks the candidate has performed, the question of the boy being blind
should not be the point of consideration. I will not vote for him unless I
listen to his performance. He being a blind should never be the criteria for
someone to vote for him. But as I said, I am making certain assumptions
about the context and also have not followed this thread in detail. What I
wanted to convey is that we should not vote for the boy because he is blind.
If he is genuinely talented, that is another story.

Regards,
Kiran.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:15 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR



Yes, I have voted.
Thanks and regards.
Suresh Kulkarni.
--- Original Message -
From: "Dattu Agarwal Agarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Vedprakash Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>  cheers
>  dattu agarwal
>
> Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I will. Best wishes.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA"
> To: "accessindia"
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
> Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR
>
>
>> hello accessindia!
>>
>> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama 
>> zee tv programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request 
>> you all accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write 
>> "diwakar" in text box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please 
>> help this little diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on 
>> final of zee saregama.
>>
>>
>> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>> CELL : 91-98271-57594
>> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
>> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
>> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-10 Thread Suresh


Yes, I have voted.
Thanks and regards.
Suresh Kulkarni.
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>i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
>  cheers
>  dattu agarwal
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-09 Thread Dattu Agarwal Agarwal
i will vote and request to all the list members to respond positively
  cheers
  dattu agarwal

Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I will. Best wishes.

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Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR


> hello accessindia!
>
> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama zee tv 
> programme, he is running some shortage of votes, so i request you all 
> accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write "diwakar" in text 
> box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006. please help this little 
> diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on final of zee saregama.
>
>
> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> CELL : 91-98271-57594
> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
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Re: [AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-09 Thread Vedprakash Sharma
I will. Best wishes.

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> hello accessindia!
>
> there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama zee tv 
> programme,  he is running some shortage of votes, so i request you all 
> accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write "diwakar" in text 
> box and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006.  please help this little 
> diwakar "blind contestent" to reach and gain on final of zee saregama.
>
>
> BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> CELL : 91-98271-57594
> RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
> OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
> FAX : 91-771-2224559.
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[AI] VOTE FOR LITTLE DIWAKAR

2006-09-09 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
hello accessindia!

there is a blind contestent reached on final of hero honda saregama zee tv 
programme,  he is running some shortage of votes, so i request you all 
accessindianS, to please send an sms to 7575 and write "diwakar" in text box 
and send it before 11 a.m. 11-09-2006.  please help this little diwakar "blind 
contestent" to reach and gain on final of zee saregama.


BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
CELL : 91-98271-57594
RESIDENCE : 91-771-2593005.
 OFFICE : 91-771-2235626/2235640/2228231.
FAX : 91-771-2224559.


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