Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hello friend Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during the examination. 1 Every state has different provision regarding this. 2 Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted the recommendations in different way and made their in practical rules. 3 In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies affiliated by UGC. 4 That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding the extra time and eligibility of scribe. 5 This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. 6 Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state bodies disobey verbally. The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: > Hello list members, > On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility > Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for > me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after > half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted > the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time > is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was > schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge > for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for > central government exams and academic exams? > > Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not > given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is > applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. > Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She > was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology > terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. > > What should I do regarding this issue. > > How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders reaches > the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any > communication gap between disability department and various department? > > Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. To > whom should I complaint regarding this. > > regards, > SK. SAZID > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Sazid I can understand your anxiety and the problem you would have suffered. Due to this lack of awareness even among the people who are sitting on the higher authorities. But don’t get dishearten with these occurring witch are bound to happens with us. In this particular case I would advise you to take this grievance to the appropriate place, either you can reach to the education department based on your district it self or pursue this matter via any NGO who would be active in disability field. There can be other mechanism as well but I don’t think they will be feasible in your case, meaning filing an RTI or dragging concern officials to the court of law. Apart from it you can file an online complaint form over HRD ministry site. But it would be better to take this issue step by step, I mean first of all on local level itself and then if not redress then Higher authorities. Here I would also like to clarify that there are appropriate guideline for the extra time provided for VH candidate in all examinations whether it is academic or competitive exams. UGC, Banks, Education departments etc. everybody have now proper directions through circulars to insure mentioned extra time duration. The thing is that you should obtain those circulars, And for the benefit of your and others most of the required circulars related with the visually challenge are available on ‘inclusiveplanet.com’. Thanks And all the best On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: > Hello friend > > Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra > time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during > the examination. > > 1 Every state has different provision regarding this. > 2 Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted > the recommendations in different way and made their in practical > rules. > 3 In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the > extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which > enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies > affiliated by UGC. > 4 That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding the > extra time and eligibility of scribe. > 5 This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have > different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. > 6 Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state > bodies disobey verbally. > > > The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior > and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. > > > On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: >> Hello list members, >> On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher >> Eligibility >> Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for >> me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. >> after >> half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He >> contacted >> the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra >> time >> is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I >> was >> schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District >> incharge >> for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for >> central government exams and academic exams? >> >> Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not >> given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is >> applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. >> Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She >> was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as >> phsycology >> terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. >> >> What should I do regarding this issue. >> >> How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders >> reaches >> the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any >> communication gap between disability department and various department? >> >> Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. >> To >> whom should I complaint regarding this. >> >> regards, >> SK. SAZID >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_access
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hello muhammad mishbahul As per my knowledge and also confirm by a good NGO, there no such circular exist for extra time in examination by UGC. If you have please provide the same, which helps to lots of visually impaired candidates. On 6/2/12, muhammad mishbahul wrote: > Sazid I can understand your anxiety and the problem you would have > suffered. > Due to this lack of awareness even among the people who are sitting on > the higher authorities. > But don’t get dishearten with these occurring witch are bound to > happens with us. > In this particular case I would advise you to take this grievance to > the appropriate place, either you can reach to the education > department based on your district it self or pursue this matter via > any NGO who would be active in disability field. > There can be other mechanism as well but I don’t think they will be > feasible in your case, meaning filing an RTI or dragging concern > officials to the court of law. > Apart from it you can file an online complaint form over HRD ministry site. > But it would be better to take this issue step by step, I mean first > of all on local level itself and then if not redress then Higher > authorities. > Here I would also like to clarify that there are appropriate guideline > for the extra time provided for VH candidate in all examinations > whether it is academic or competitive exams. > UGC, Banks, Education departments etc. everybody have now proper > directions through circulars to insure mentioned extra time duration. > The thing is that you should obtain those circulars, > And for the benefit of your and others most of the required circulars > related with the visually challenge are available on > ‘inclusiveplanet.com’. > Thanks > And all the best > > > > On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: >> Hello friend >> >> Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra >> time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during >> the examination. >> >> 1Every state has different provision regarding this. >> 2Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted >> the recommendations in different way and made their in practical >> rules. >> 3In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the >> extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which >> enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies >> affiliated by UGC. >> 4That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding the >> extra time and eligibility of scribe. >> 5This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have >> different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. >> 6Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state >> bodies disobey verbally. >> >> >> The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior >> and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. >> >> >> On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: >>> Hello list members, >>> On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher >>> Eligibility >>> Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time >>> for >>> me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. >>> after >>> half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He >>> contacted >>> the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra >>> time >>> is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I >>> was >>> schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District >>> incharge >>> for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for >>> central government exams and academic exams? >>> >>> Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had >>> not >>> given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which >>> is >>> applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my >>> point. >>> Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. >>> She >>> was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as >>> phsycology >>> terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. >>> >>> What should I do regarding this issue. >>> >>> How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders >>> reaches >>> the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any >>> communication gap between disability department and various department? >>> >>> Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. >>> To >>> whom should I complaint regarding this. >>> >>> regards, >>> SK. SAZID >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
by him/her to study. For the purpose of evaluation the marks for diagrams will be compensated by the written explanations. 25. Each examination authority to assign within its existing system an officer on special duty who will be exclusively responsible to processing requests of students with special needs and addressing concerns, providing services and ensuring appropriate implementation of these rules. The contact information of the said officer need to be published in all application/admission forms, brochures, website, directories and any other suitable places. The said officer needs to be appointed at the examination centre/district/state level as per the existing system of the examination body. (Question for consideration - How better can we suggest this system?) 26. Question for consideration - Still to be debated - make practicals as stated above or VIVA? Viva up to 10th/12th standard and accessible practical as mentioned above for higher standards? 27. Question for consideration - FEES OF WRITERS? How much? Who is to provide this? Compulsory or optional? 28. The said guidelines will be reviewed on a 5 yearly basis to keep up with new technologies and services available in the field as also advances in the educational systems. The review will be conducted by the Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment in consultation with all relevant stakeholders. End of points. --- On Sat, 2/6/12, prakash chand wrote: From: prakash chand Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Saturday, 2 June, 2012, 12:22 PM Hello muhammad mishbahul As per my knowledge and also confirm by a good NGO, there no such circular exist for extra time in examination by UGC. If you have please provide the same, which helps to lots of visually impaired candidates. On 6/2/12, muhammad mishbahul wrote: > Sazid I can understand your anxiety and the problem you would have > suffered. > Due to this lack of awareness even among the people who are sitting on > the higher authorities. > But don’t get dishearten with these occurring witch are bound to > happens with us. > In this particular case I would advise you to take this grievance to > the appropriate place, either you can reach to the education > department based on your district it self or pursue this matter via > any NGO who would be active in disability field. > There can be other mechanism as well but I don’t think they will be > feasible in your case, meaning filing an RTI or dragging concern > officials to the court of law. > Apart from it you can file an online complaint form over HRD ministry site. > But it would be better to take this issue step by step, I mean first > of all on local level itself and then if not redress then Higher > authorities. > Here I would also like to clarify that there are appropriate guideline > for the extra time provided for VH candidate in all examinations > whether it is academic or competitive exams. > UGC, Banks, Education departments etc. everybody have now proper > directions through circulars to insure mentioned extra time duration. > The thing is that you should obtain those circulars, > And for the benefit of your and others most of the required circulars > related with the visually challenge are available on > ‘inclusiveplanet.com’. > Thanks > And all the best > > > > On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: >> Hello friend >> >> Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra >> time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during >> the examination. >> >> 1 Every state has different provision regarding this. >> 2 Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted >> the recommendations in different way and made their in practical >> rules. >> 3 In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the >> extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which >> enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies >> affiliated by UGC. >> 4 That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding the >> extra time and eligibility of scribe. >> 5 This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have >> different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. >> 6 Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state >> bodies disobey verbally. >> >> >> The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior >> and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. >> >> >> On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: >>> Hello list members, >>> On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher >>> Eligibili
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hello, Do you have the Government order about which you have told the DEO? I'll advise you to go through the advertisement issued for AP Teacher Eligibility Test. There should be some guidelines regarding VI, scribe, and extra time. If no such clause exists, the notification is bad and it could have been challenged prior to the exam only. If the guidelines are there and have not been followed, you can give the representation to the higher officials of the department requesting to take the disciplinary action against the concerned examiner, DEO, and director. They are responsible for “Dereliction of duty” and “misuse of power.” Thanks and regards, On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: > Hello muhammad mishbahul > > As per my knowledge and also confirm by a good NGO, there no such > circular exist for extra time in examination by UGC. If you have > please provide the same, which helps to lots of visually impaired > candidates. > > > > On 6/2/12, muhammad mishbahul wrote: >> Sazid I can understand your anxiety and the problem you would have >> suffered. >> Due to this lack of awareness even among the people who are sitting on >> the higher authorities. >> But don’t get dishearten with these occurring witch are bound to >> happens with us. >> In this particular case I would advise you to take this grievance to >> the appropriate place, either you can reach to the education >> department based on your district it self or pursue this matter via >> any NGO who would be active in disability field. >> There can be other mechanism as well but I don’t think they will be >> feasible in your case, meaning filing an RTI or dragging concern >> officials to the court of law. >> Apart from it you can file an online complaint form over HRD ministry >> site. >> But it would be better to take this issue step by step, I mean first >> of all on local level itself and then if not redress then Higher >> authorities. >> Here I would also like to clarify that there are appropriate guideline >> for the extra time provided for VH candidate in all examinations >> whether it is academic or competitive exams. >> UGC, Banks, Education departments etc. everybody have now proper >> directions through circulars to insure mentioned extra time duration. >> The thing is that you should obtain those circulars, >> And for the benefit of your and others most of the required circulars >> related with the visually challenge are available on >> ‘inclusiveplanet.com’. >> Thanks >> And all the best >> >> >> >> On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: >>> Hello friend >>> >>> Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra >>> time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during >>> the examination. >>> >>> 1 Every state has different provision regarding this. >>> 2 Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted >>> the recommendations in different way and made their in practical >>> rules. >>> 3 In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the >>> extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which >>> enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies >>> affiliated by UGC. >>> 4 That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding the >>> extra time and eligibility of scribe. >>> 5 This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have >>> different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. >>> 6 Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state >>> bodies disobey verbally. >>> >>> >>> The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior >>> and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. >>> >>> >>> On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: Hello list members, On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for central government exams and academic exams? Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. What should I do reg
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
I am pasteing a link in which we can get government orders. As I am not having that much knowledge of computer. Hence i request you all to get the G.O from this portal. As I am approaching HRD with a lawyer. The link is 1. www.goir.ap.gov.in Thanks and regards, SK. SAZID. --- On Sat, 2/6/12, akhilesh wrote: From: akhilesh Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Saturday, 2 June, 2012, 1:06 PM Hello, Do you have the Government order about which you have told the DEO? I'll advise you to go through the advertisement issued for AP Teacher Eligibility Test. There should be some guidelines regarding VI, scribe, and extra time. If no such clause exists, the notification is bad and it could have been challenged prior to the exam only. If the guidelines are there and have not been followed, you can give the representation to the higher officials of the department requesting to take the disciplinary action against the concerned examiner, DEO, and director. They are responsible for “Dereliction of duty” and “misuse of power.” Thanks and regards, On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: > Hello muhammad mishbahul > > As per my knowledge and also confirm by a good NGO, there no such > circular exist for extra time in examination by UGC. If you have > please provide the same, which helps to lots of visually impaired > candidates. > > > > On 6/2/12, muhammad mishbahul wrote: >> Sazid I can understand your anxiety and the problem you would have >> suffered. >> Due to this lack of awareness even among the people who are sitting on >> the higher authorities. >> But don’t get dishearten with these occurring witch are bound to >> happens with us. >> In this particular case I would advise you to take this grievance to >> the appropriate place, either you can reach to the education >> department based on your district it self or pursue this matter via >> any NGO who would be active in disability field. >> There can be other mechanism as well but I don’t think they will be >> feasible in your case, meaning filing an RTI or dragging concern >> officials to the court of law. >> Apart from it you can file an online complaint form over HRD ministry >> site. >> But it would be better to take this issue step by step, I mean first >> of all on local level itself and then if not redress then Higher >> authorities. >> Here I would also like to clarify that there are appropriate guideline >> for the extra time provided for VH candidate in all examinations >> whether it is academic or competitive exams. >> UGC, Banks, Education departments etc. everybody have now proper >> directions through circulars to insure mentioned extra time duration. >> The thing is that you should obtain those circulars, >> And for the benefit of your and others most of the required circulars >> related with the visually challenge are available on >> ‘inclusiveplanet.com’. >> Thanks >> And all the best >> >> >> >> On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: >>> Hello friend >>> >>> Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra >>> time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during >>> the examination. >>> >>> 1 Every state has different provision regarding this. >>> 2 Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted >>> the recommendations in different way and made their in practical >>> rules. >>> 3 In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the >>> extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which >>> enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies >>> affiliated by UGC. >>> 4 That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding the >>> extra time and eligibility of scribe. >>> 5 This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have >>> different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. >>> 6 Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state >>> bodies disobey verbally. >>> >>> >>> The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior >>> and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. >>> >>> >>> On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: >>>> Hello list members, >>>> On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher >>>> Eligibility >>>> Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time >>>> for >>>> me. the examiner
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Good evening Access Indians, I hope all are doing well. Sorry to say this. The same thing happened to me today. Today, I appeared for Post Graduation in Law Common Entrance Test in the state of Andhra Pradesh. Last week, I went to the University and explained my disability to them and I requested them to allow me to bring a Scribe on my own. But, the University authorities told that no need to woory, we will arrange a Research Scholar to appear as a Scribe for you. Today, when I went to the University, they arranged a Scribe to write my entrance exam. But, the person who appeared for me as a Scribe was not able to read out the legal terms properly. First of all, he was not able to read the general terms properly and then about legal terminology. They gave the question paper 3 minutes late and the person who appeared for me as a scribe did not show much interest to read the questions fully. When I ask him to repeat the question, he told that you have to bring a Scribe on your own and it is very difficult for me to write your exam. In the middle, he wasted 10 minutes for tea break and for drinking water. He attended his phone calls also. When I ask him to spell out the word to understand, he started shouting at me. At Last, due to his negligence, I am not able to attend 5 questions and more over, the University authorities refused to give me extra time. I worked hard to appear for the exam. But, all my efforts had gone waste. I have no satisfaction regarding my performance in the exam. Now, I will not get the desired result which is necessary for me to select the college as per my wish. The most worrying factor for me is the question paper is easy and if I would have got a good Scribe, I would have attended very well. On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: > Hello list members, > On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility > Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for > me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after > half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted > the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time > is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was > schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge > for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for > central government exams and academic exams? > > Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not > given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is > applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. > Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She > was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology > terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. > > What should I do regarding this issue. > > How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders reaches > the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any > communication gap between disability department and various department? > > Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. To > whom should I complaint regarding this. > > regards, > SK. SAZID > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- "Past is a history, future is a mystery, but, present is a gift. so, enjoy the present". "No poison can kill a positive thinker and no medicine can cure a negative thinker" Thanks & Regards Uma Raghunathan you can give me a personal message by clicking the link below arunfamily1...@gmail.com You can join with me on skype by clicking the link below arunfamily1 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hello friends, from past 2 days i am following this post people are shaired there own views my question is did any 1 aproched n g os for the asistance? If not please go and do it today uma madam lost time sheik who is next Sent from blackberry curve 9360 registered phone thanks and regards shan email: harshalg...@gmail.com mobile: +919591846442 skype: shankar.a -Original message- From: Uma Vr Sent: 02/06/2012, 8:14 pm To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Good evening Access Indians, I hope all are doing well. Sorry to say this. The same thing happened to me today. Today, I appeared for Post Graduation in Law Common Entrance Test in the state of Andhra Pradesh. Last week, I went to the University and explained my disability to them and I requested them to allow me to bring a Scribe on my own. But, the University authorities told that no need to woory, we will arrange a Research Scholar to appear as a Scribe for you. Today, when I went to the University, they arranged a Scribe to write my entrance exam. But, the person who appeared for me as a Scribe was not able to read out the legal terms properly. First of all, he was not able to read the general terms properly and then about legal terminology. They gave the question paper 3 minutes late and the person who appeared for me as a scribe did not show much interest to read the questions fully. When I ask him to repeat the question, he told that you have to bring a Scribe on your own and it is very difficult for me to write your exam. In the middle, he wasted 10 minutes for tea break and for drinking water. He attended his phone calls also. When I ask him to spell out the word to understand, he started shouting at me. At Last, due to his negligence, I am not able to attend 5 questions and more over, the University authorities refused to give me extra time. I worked hard to appear for the exam. But, all my efforts had gone waste. I have no satisfaction regarding my performance in the exam. Now, I will not get the desired result which is necessary for me to select the college as per my wish. The most worrying factor for me is the question paper is easy and if I would have got a good Scribe, I would have attended very well. On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: > Hello list members, > On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility > Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for > me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after > half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted > the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time > is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was > schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge > for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for > central government exams and academic exams? > > Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not > given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is > applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. > Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She > was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology > terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. > > What should I do regarding this issue. > > How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders reaches > the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any > communication gap between disability department and various department? > > Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. To > whom should I complaint regarding this. > > regards, > SK. SAZID > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- "Past is a history, future is a mystery, but, present is a gift. so, enjoy the present". "No poison can kill a positive thinker and no medicine can cure a negative thinker" Thanks & Regards Uma Raghunathan you can give me a personal message by clicking the link below arunfamily1...@gmail.com You can join with me on skype by clicking the link below arunfamily1 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe.
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Yes, I approached an NGO regarding, things are going on. He asked for some G.O's. I request list members to provide the AP G.o's as well as central G.O's. Which will help them to workout. In my view fighting for a right alone is very diffficult. I request any Blind association will take this step. Onethinng I am not understanding why should we beg or fight for the right which was provided by the constitution. Are we enjoying the fruit properly in our daily-life. Why there is negative point on us, manytimes i was vexed on the society. --- On Sat, 2/6/12, Uma Vr wrote: From%3 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hi Uma, I have experienced something similar but it was a long time ago not with law butt with MBA enterance exams. Have you considered enrolling for other universities? Pranav -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Uma Vr Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:15 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Good evening Access Indians, I hope all are doing well. Sorry to say this. The same thing happened to me today. Today, I appeared for Post Graduation in Law Common Entrance Test in the state of Andhra Pradesh. Last week, I went to the University and explained my disability to them and I requested them to allow me to bring a Scribe on my own. But, the University authorities told that no need to woory, we will arrange a Research Scholar to appear as a Scribe for you. Today, when I went to the University, they arranged a Scribe to write my entrance exam. But, the person who appeared for me as a Scribe was not able to read out the legal terms properly. First of all, he was not able to read the general terms properly and then about legal terminology. They gave the question paper 3 minutes late and the person who appeared for me as a scribe did not show much interest to read the questions fully. When I ask him to repeat the question, he told that you have to bring a Scribe on your own and it is very difficult for me to write your exam. In the middle, he wasted 10 minutes for tea break and for drinking water. He attended his phone calls also. When I ask him to spell out the word to understand, he started shouting at me. At Last, due to his negligence, I am not able to attend 5 questions and more over, the University authorities refused to give me extra time. I worked hard to appear for the exam. But, all my efforts had gone waste. I have no satisfaction regarding my performance in the exam. Now, I will not get the desired result which is necessary for me to select the college as per my wish. The most worrying factor for me is the question paper is easy and if I would have got a good Scribe, I would have attended very well. On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: > Hello list members, > On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility > Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for > me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after > half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted > the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time > is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was > schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge > for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for > central government exams and academic exams? > > Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not > given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is > applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. > Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She > was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology > terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. > > What should I do regarding this issue. > > How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders reaches > the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any > communication gap between disability department and various department? > > Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. To > whom should I complaint regarding this. > > regards, > SK. SAZID > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- "Past is a history, future is a mystery, but, present is a gift. so, enjoy the present". "No poison can kill a positive thinker and no medicine can cure a negative thinker" Thanks & Regards Uma Raghunathan you can give me a personal message by clicking the link below arunfamily1...@gmail.com You can join with me on skype by clicking the link below arunfamily1 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the l
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
good morning Pranav sir, Actually I opted for the nearest University which will be convenient for me as well as my parents. But, things went beyond my expectation. Anyway I will opt for some other University. But, I will not leave it. I will keep fighting for the rights of the disabled. One more thing which I have understood from the behaviour of authorities is that differently abled people will not prepare well for exam and they depend on the Scribe for answers. When I told the answers, the Scribe is cross checking my answers. He is not from legal background. But, he is saying that my answer is wrong. At last, I lost my patience and said him that “I am the gold medalist in law. So, you no need to worry about the answers”. First of all, we have to prove that differently abled people are also talented and hard working. We have to bring awareness in the society. Unless we educate the authorities, none of the rights are useful for us. So, the first thing what we have to do is that we have to bring awareness. That is the solution for this kind of problems On 6/3/12, Pranav Lal wrote: > Hi Uma, > > I have experienced something similar but it was a long time ago not with > law > butt with MBA enterance exams. Have you considered enrolling for other > universities? > > Pranav > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Uma Vr > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:15 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam > > Good evening Access Indians, > > I hope all are doing well. > Sorry to say this. The same thing happened to me today. > Today, I appeared for Post Graduation in Law Common Entrance Test in > the state of Andhra Pradesh. Last week, I went to the University and > explained my disability to them and I requested them to allow me to > bring a Scribe on my own. But, the University authorities told that no > need to woory, we will arrange a Research Scholar to appear as a > Scribe for you. > Today, when I went to the University, they arranged a Scribe to write > my entrance exam. > But, the person who appeared for me as a Scribe was not able to read > out the legal terms properly. First of all, he was not able to read > the general terms properly and then about legal terminology. > They gave the question paper 3 minutes late and the person who > appeared for me as a scribe did not show much interest to read the > questions fully. When I ask him to repeat the question, he told that > you have to bring a Scribe on your own and it is very difficult for me > to write your exam. > In the middle, he wasted 10 minutes for tea break and for drinking > water. He attended his phone calls also. > When I ask him to spell out the word to understand, he started shouting at > me. > At Last, due to his negligence, I am not able to attend 5 questions > and more over, the University authorities refused to give me extra > time. > I worked hard to appear for the exam. But, all my efforts had gone > waste. I have no satisfaction regarding my performance in the exam. > Now, I will not get the desired result which is necessary for me to > select the college as per my wish. > The most worrying factor for me is the question paper is easy and if I > would have got a good Scribe, I would have attended very well. > > > > > > > > On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: >> Hello list members, >> On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher >> Eligibility >> Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for >> me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. > after >> half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He > contacted >> the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra >> time >> is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I >> was >> schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District >> incharge >> for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for >> central government exams and academic exams? >> >> Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not >> given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is >> applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. >> Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She >> was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as >> phsycology >> terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. >> >> What should I do regarding this issue. >> >&g
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hi Uma, I appreciate your determination. I have never had my scribe check my answers. I am clear who is the captain of the ship. http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Really it is very harible. Even in I b p s and other examinations, Extra time is being given. You have to bring it to the notice of the Commissioner, Disabled welfare Hyderabad. If your problem is unsolved even after the intervention of the Commissiover, You can approach the court for justice.t On Jun 2, 2012 7:18 AM, "prakash chand" wrote: > Hello friend > > Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra > time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during > the examination. > > 1 Every state has different provision regarding this. > 2 Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted > the recommendations in different way and made their in practical > rules. > 3 In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the > extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which > enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies > affiliated by UGC. > 4 That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding > the > extra time and eligibility of scribe. > 5 This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have > different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. > 6 Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state > bodies disobey verbally. > > > The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior > and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. > > > On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: > > Hello list members, > > On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher > Eligibility > > Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for > > me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. > after > > half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He > contacted > > the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra > time > > is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I > was > > schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District > incharge > > for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for > > central government exams and academic exams? > > > > Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not > > given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is > > applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. > > Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She > > was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as > phsycology > > terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. > > > > What should I do regarding this issue. > > > > How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders > reaches > > the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any > > communication gap between disability department and various department? > > > > Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. > To > > whom should I complaint regarding this. > > > > regards, > > SK. SAZID > > > > Search for old postings at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > > visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
dear shaik, as another member replied earlier, you have some wrong perceptions and wrong actions. as they said, there is no government order or any universal law binding all examining authorities in the country. all that is there is a model guidelines prepared by the ministry of social justice and empowerment if I am not wrong. these model guidelines are only suggestive and not imperative for the examining authorities. each examining authority makes its own rules in the matter which are applicable to only specified exam or exams conducted by that authority. there are number of communication and other gaps between and even within departments. since no binding law, the question of these gaps, the arrivals of the orders to the departments does not arise at all. well you could have taken some precautionary steps to avoid this. instead of asking for extra time in the exam hall, you could have studied thoroughly the examination rules issued by your recruitment authority. if the rules were unclear, silent, or not available to you or if they would be detrimental for you, you could have written to the top officer of that recruiting agency for an urgent action. regarding the scribe also, you could have done the same thing. you could have enquired about the qualification, language and writing ability, knowledge of how to pronounce technical terms and notations of your subject. also, you could have negotiated the possibility of taking a speed test of the scribe. all that is gone. please, all the members, check such things well in advance before attending any exam in future. now, as per my knowledge, the only option left is to make a complaint to the state commissioner of persons with disabilities and seek for a remedy. but, that is also not sure. and for your information, there is no rule stating extra time cannot be given in competitive exams. whether it is academic, or it is competitive exam, the problems of the VI are the same. and I have seen some exams like UGC NET and Karnataka Gazetted Probationers' exam, (KAS) where extra time is given in competitive exams. wish you all the best for your future. Umesha - Original Message - From: "shaik sazid" To: Sent: Friday, 01 June, 2012 11:32 PM Subject: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Hello list members, On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for central government exams and academic exams? Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. What should I do regarding this issue. How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders reaches the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any communication gap between disability department and various department? Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the district officers. To whom should I complaint regarding this. regards, SK. SAZID Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hello dear UMr. mesha, After becoming VI this is my second exam, so that i do not know what are the do's and dont's. As you told me to prepare well I had prepared well. The first competitive exam which I appeared was RRb on may 6th in that they provided extra time. As you shoot a mail that 60% was withdrawn from RRC but in their latest notification RRC "special recrutment drive for disabled they clearly mentioned that the scribe should be not more than 60% which was announced on 9th june, 2012". When the guidelines are prepared by the social justice department why are they keeping that guidelines wighwith them. According to IPC 420 section it is applicable in all over india. Why cant the guidelines applicable all over india. My intention is not to beg extra time. As I am not aware of the scribe so that I did not meether. I am sorry if hurt. I had given met Assistant Director for disabled to look into this matter. Yes, practise makes men perfect. regards, sk.sazid. --- On Mon, 11/6/12, Umesha Economics wrote: From: Umesha Economics Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Monday, 11 June, 2012, 10:39 PM dear shaik, as another member replied earlier, you have some wrong perceptions and wrong actions. as they said, there is no government order or any universal law binding all examining authorities in the country. all that is there is a model guidelines prepared by the ministry of social justice and empowerment if I am not wrong. these model guidelines are only suggestive and not imperative for the examining authorities. each examining authority makes its own rules in the matter which are applicable to only specified exam or exams conducted by that authority. there are number of communication and other gaps between and even within departments. since no binding law, the question of these gaps, the arrivals of the orders to the departments does not arise at all. well you could have taken some precautionary steps to avoid this. instead of asking for extra time in the exam hall, you could have studied thoroughly the examination rules issued by your recruitment authority. if the rules were unclear, silent, or not available to you or if they would be detrimental for you, you could have written to the top officer of that recruiting agency for an urgent action. regarding the scribe also, you could have done the same thing. you could have enquired about the qualification, language and writing ability, knowledge of how to pronounce technical terms and notations of your subject. also, you could have negotiated the possibility of taking a speed test of the scribe. all that is gone. please, all the members, check such things well in advance before attending any exam in future. now, as per my knowledge, the only option left is to make a complaint to the state commissioner of persons with disabilities and seek for a remedy. but, that is also not sure. and for your information, there is no rule stating extra time cannot be given in competitive exams. whether it is academic, or it is competitive exam, the problems of the VI are the same. and I have seen some exams like UGC NET and Karnataka Gazetted Probationers' exam, (KAS) where extra time is given in competitive exams. wish you all the best for your future. Umesha - Original Message - From: "shaik sazid" To: Sent: Friday, 01 June, 2012 11:32 PM Subject: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Hello list members, On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for central government exams and academic exams? Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had not given extra time. I told the DEO that there is Government order which is applicable for all over the India. But he is not ready to take my point. Another thing is that class X student was provided as scribe for me. She was not having fluency in reading telugu terminology as well as phsycology terms. So it took lot of time to understand a question. What should I do regarding this issue. How should we educate District officers? Does the government orders reaches the officers? Will through the orders into dust bin? Is there is any communication gap between disability department and various department? Please suggest me what to do and how to educate the d
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
hello sheik, since this is your second exam, you were not aware of the possible situations. right, but be careful in future as many such uncertain times may come. there are several laws concerned with disabled which are vague in nature. be skeptic in all aspects of such provisions and confirm every thing well in advance. by preparing well, I meant to look after these issues also. I hope you prepared well for your exam and you will. but we have to give equal attention and some times even more attention to these issues while before examinations. as I saw, IPC 420 speaks about Cheating and dishonestly inducing delivery of property and is in no way connected to the case. how did you got a connection with the section? can you explain in detail? the guide lines though prepared by the ministry of SJ and empowerment, will have binding effect only if they issue them with the authority in the form of a government order, gazette notification, or enactment. but these are just draft guidelines which do not have any legal strength. I never said, and never will say you are begging for extra time. you need not say so. it is your moral right. only thing is to make it legal right through some enforcing rules. even with known scribes we need extra time due to some extra time wastage in communication. with unknown scribe it is even more. it is good your following it up with the authority. but, make sure that they are not protecting their subordinates. if at any time you feel that they are not acting as expected, don't hesitate to go to the commissionerate for the persons with disabilities or any court of law. one more suggestion, it is not related to the present topic, your message contains many spelling mistakes which makes it difficult to understand. I am not intending to discourage you, and please take this in a right spirit. I am saying this just because the communication is important. as I observed the patterns of errors in your mail, I think it is due to unknowingly touching some parts of the touchpad or clicking with mouse with your hand or accidentally pressing navigational keys. to avoid this, please read the message once after writing it before sending. Umesha - Original Message - From: "shaik sazid" To: Sent: Tuesday, 12 June, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Hello dear UMr. mesha, After becoming VI this is my second exam, so that i do not know what are the do's and dont's. As you told me to prepare well I had prepared well. The first competitive exam which I appeared was RRb on may 6th in that they provided extra time. As you shoot a mail that 60% was withdrawn from RRC but in their latest notification RRC "special recrutment drive for disabled they clearly mentioned that the scribe should be not more than 60% which was announced on 9th june, 2012". When the guidelines are prepared by the social justice department why are they keeping that guidelines wighwith them. According to IPC 420 section it is applicable in all over india. Why cant the guidelines applicable all over india. My intention is not to beg extra time. As I am not aware of the scribe so that I did not meether. I am sorry if hurt. I had given met Assistant Director for disabled to look into this matter. Yes, practise makes men perfect. regards, sk.sazid. --- On Mon, 11/6/12, Umesha Economics wrote: From: Umesha Economics Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Monday, 11 June, 2012, 10:39 PM dear shaik, as another member replied earlier, you have some wrong perceptions and wrong actions. as they said, there is no government order or any universal law binding all examining authorities in the country. all that is there is a model guidelines prepared by the ministry of social justice and empowerment if I am not wrong. these model guidelines are only suggestive and not imperative for the examining authorities. each examining authority makes its own rules in the matter which are applicable to only specified exam or exams conducted by that authority. there are number of communication and other gaps between and even within departments. since no binding law, the question of these gaps, the arrivals of the orders to the departments does not arise at all. well you could have taken some precautionary steps to avoid this. instead of asking for extra time in the exam hall, you could have studied thoroughly the examination rules issued by your recruitment authority. if the rules were unclear, silent, or not available to you or if they would be detrimental for you, you could have written to the top officer of that recruiting agency for an urgent action. regarding the scribe also, you could have done the same thing. you could have enquired about the qualification, language and writing ability, knowledge of ho
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
Hello Mr. Umesha, Thank you for your valuable suggestions. As concern to IPC that Indian penal code is applicable all over the India, why can't the guidelines applicable all over India. Thank you for rectifying me. As on that day my baby was distrubing me that is the reason lot of mistakes and spelling errors occured. regards, SK. SAZID. --- On Wed, 13/6/12, Umesha Economics wrote: From: Umesha Economics Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Wednesday, 13 June, 2012, 8:10 AM hello sheik, since this is your second exam, you were not aware of the possible situations. right, but be careful in future as many such uncertain times may come. there are several laws concerned with disabled which are vague in nature. be skeptic in all aspects of such provisions and confirm every thing well in advance. by preparing well, I meant to look after these issues also. I hope you prepared well for your exam and you will. but we have to give equal attention and some times even more attention to these issues while before examinations. as I saw, IPC 420 speaks about Cheating and dishonestly inducing delivery of property and is in no way connected to the case. how did you got a connection with the section? can you explain in detail? the guide lines though prepared by the ministry of SJ and empowerment, will have binding effect only if they issue them with the authority in the form of a government order, gazette notification, or enactment. but these are just draft guidelines which do not have any legal strength. I never said, and never will say you are begging for extra time. you need not say so. it is your moral right. only thing is to make it legal right through some enforcing rules. even with known scribes we need extra time due to some extra time wastage in communication. with unknown scribe it is even more. it is good your following it up with the authority. but, make sure that they are not protecting their subordinates. if at any time you feel that they are not acting as expected, don't hesitate to go to the commissionerate for the persons with disabilities or any court of law. one more suggestion, it is not related to the present topic, your message contains many spelling mistakes which makes it difficult to understand. I am not intending to discourage you, and please take this in a right spirit. I am saying this just because the communication is important. as I observed the patterns of errors in your mail, I think it is due to unknowingly touching some parts of the touchpad or clicking with mouse with your hand or accidentally pressing navigational keys. to avoid this, please read the message once after writing it before sending. Umesha - Original Message - From: "shaik sazid" To: Sent: Tuesday, 12 June, 2012 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Hello dear UMr. mesha, After becoming VI this is my second exam, so that i do not know what are the do's and dont's. As you told me to prepare well I had prepared well. The first competitive exam which I appeared was RRb on may 6th in that they provided extra time. As you shoot a mail that 60% was withdrawn from RRC but in their latest notification RRC "special recrutment drive for disabled they clearly mentioned that the scribe should be not more than 60% which was announced on 9th june, 2012". When the guidelines are prepared by the social justice department why are they keeping that guidelines wighwith them. According to IPC 420 section it is applicable in all over india. Why cant the guidelines applicable all over india. My intention is not to beg extra time. As I am not aware of the scribe so that I did not meether. I am sorry if hurt. I had given met Assistant Director for disabled to look into this matter. Yes, practise makes men perfect. regards, sk.sazid. --- On Mon, 11/6/12, Umesha Economics wrote: From: Umesha Economics Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Monday, 11 June, 2012, 10:39 PM dear shaik, as another member replied earlier, you have some wrong perceptions and wrong actions. as they said, there is no government order or any universal law binding all examining authorities in the country. all that is there is a model guidelines prepared by the ministry of social justice and empowerment if I am not wrong. these model guidelines are only suggestive and not imperative for the examining authorities. each examining authority makes its own rules in the matter which are applicable to only specified exam or exams conducted by that authority. there are number of communication and other gaps between and even within departments. since no binding law, the question of these gaps, the arrivals of the orders to the departments does not arise at all. well
Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam
sorry for the late reply but I thought of giving some clarifications. hi Muhammad, I think in such cases, pursuing the matter at district level is not a good idea. better it be fought at the state level since the erring official himself is a district officer and I think the problem is also with state level officers. filing an RTI application can be done only to obtain the information and not for grievance redressal or any type of such legal fights. you can only use it as a prelude to get the info you need for your battle. but RTI itself cannot give you solution. remember: you cannot even seek for interpretation or opinion through RTI application and all such applications can be summarily rejected. I will never advise one to take such a serious issue at the local level. those people drag the case as long as they can and later if they anticipate to fail in any argument, they will refer the case to higher authority. it adds only to dragging of the issue. regarding guidelines, yes, all the authorities have guidelines. but as I said earlier, they are just draft guidelines and not binding ones. they are just suggestive and not imperative. no law insist the authorities to strictly follow them. please try to understand the meaning of a circular. it is just a letter circulated to many people or institutions. it may not be an order or notification. all circulars are not law. in the meanwhile, shaik was taking the issue with the department. dear shaik, may we know what happened to that fight? Umesha - Original Message - From: "muhammad mishbahul" To: Sent: Saturday, 02 June, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [AI] refused to give extra time while writting AP TET exam Sazid I can understand your anxiety and the problem you would have suffered. Due to this lack of awareness even among the people who are sitting on the higher authorities. But don’t get dishearten with these occurring witch are bound to happens with us. In this particular case I would advise you to take this grievance to the appropriate place, either you can reach to the education department based on your district it self or pursue this matter via any NGO who would be active in disability field. There can be other mechanism as well but I don’t think they will be feasible in your case, meaning filing an RTI or dragging concern officials to the court of law. Apart from it you can file an online complaint form over HRD ministry site. But it would be better to take this issue step by step, I mean first of all on local level itself and then if not redress then Higher authorities. Here I would also like to clarify that there are appropriate guideline for the extra time provided for VH candidate in all examinations whether it is academic or competitive exams. UGC, Banks, Education departments etc. everybody have now proper directions through circulars to insure mentioned extra time duration. The thing is that you should obtain those circulars, And for the benefit of your and others most of the required circulars related with the visually challenge are available on ‘inclusiveplanet.com’. Thanks And all the best On 6/2/12, prakash chand wrote: Hello friend Actually there is no universal guideline exist regarding the extra time and scribe eligibility for visually impaired candidates during the examination. 1 Every state has different provision regarding this. 2 Different universities and other exam conducting bodies interpreted the recommendations in different way and made their in practical rules. 3 In fact UGC also doesn’t have the clear provision regarding the extra time for visually impaired candidates in the examination, which enforce to the all universities and other educational bodies affiliated by UGC. 4 That’s why Different universities have different rules regarding the extra time and eligibility of scribe. 5 This is not ends here different state’s recruitment agencies have different views in this regard and have no clear cut provision. 6 Many high courts made judgments in this regard but other state bodies disobey verbally. The above facts is per my knowledge, if I am wrong in anything senior and knowledgeable members please for give me and correct me. On 6/1/12, shaik sazid wrote: Hello list members, On this day Andhra Pradesh government was conducted AP Teacher Eligibility Test. In the exam hall I asked the examiner to provide me extra time for me. the examiner advised me to talk with district education officer. after half an hour DEO visited my room I told him about my concern. He contacted the direcctor and refused me to provide extra time. He told me extra time is only permisible in acadamic class only not for competetive exam. I was schocked after hearing the news from an officer who is a District incharge for education department. Is it true extra time is permisible only for central government exams and academic exams? Due to this distrubance I could not write the exam properly and I had
