Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-30 Thread George Abraham
Well I have engaged with the CEO of Tata Sky. They are working on a voice
guided settop box. They expect to have their system in place in the next
couple of years. In the mean time someone from his team called and helped
me configure a set of favourite channels. I can now get to my favourite
channel with just a couple of clicks of the  remote.

Likewise, I have been engaging with the IT guys of my bank who have taken
on board my challenges and have agreed to work on them. In the mean time
they have been giving me personalised service with some of the challenges I
have been facing.

I think that need of the hour is to dialogue and help the service providers
understand our challenges. Guess this approach will not work with the guys
from the Govt. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 30 July 2015 19:10
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Prashant and all,
Sorry for responding so late.  I would like a proper note on this.  I have 
an idea-it may take some time but I think it will work. Of course we have
to 
confront the government and the companies. If nothing else it will cause 
enough noise and plenty of discomfort.

Please could we have a team of 3 apart from Prashant and Dipendra and take 
this off line for a few days.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: Prashant Verma  prashant...@gmail.com
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!


 Dear George,
 I am also very concerned with inaccessibility in this arena.
 Technology-wise, the only solution is to have set-top boxes with talking
 features. Such products exists and our operators just need to adopt them 
 and
 offer to consumers for purchase.
 I am sure blind persons will be ready to pay that extra few thousand 
 rupees
 for such devices.
 Saksham, particularly Mr. Dipendra Manocha has tried to work with Dish TV
 and Tata sky recently to make them adopt these devices. Unfortunately, 
 after
 the initial enthusiasm  not much progress has taken place.

 Since we are a negligible market I wonder whether these operators will 
 ever
 offer it for commercial considerations. It needs to be enforced by law.
 But we don't have any laws yet to ensure accessibility of ICT
 infrastructure. The government has adopted a policy only and not much 
 work
 is being done on it.

 In the interim, I have tried to put together the channel list of popular
 service providers in Braille, audio and eText on my website. Keeping them
 up-to-date has proved to be very difficult however.
 The Tata Sky channel list  is available on the page given below. you can 
 at
 least check the number of your favourite channel. Tata Sky is also 
 providing
 the program guide on their website but it is not fully accessible.
 Channel list:

http://www.worldofdth.com/thread-wod-exclusive-tatasky-channel-list-as-on-1
1
 -july-2015
 Tata Sky TV guide:
 http://www.tatasky.com/wps/portal/TataSky/channels/tvguide

 We should together do something about this.

 With regards,
 Prashant







 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf
 Of George Abraham
 Sent: 12 July 2015 13:12
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
 more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
 promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
 Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
 favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
 sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has 
 become
 to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it 
 is
 going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
 us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
 then we are in for deep trouble.



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of
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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-30 Thread kanchan Pamnani
Maybe we can use your case as an example. The government needs a little 
prodding and that prodding can be only done by court but only after some 
proper documentation. Therefore I suggest we have a small research and 
drafting team. I have a backhand idea and it will definitely open some space 
for others to go in and negotiate solutions.


Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!



Well I have engaged with the CEO of Tata Sky. They are working on a voice
guided settop box. They expect to have their system in place in the next
couple of years. In the mean time someone from his team called and helped
me configure a set of favourite channels. I can now get to my favourite
channel with just a couple of clicks of the  remote.

Likewise, I have been engaging with the IT guys of my bank who have taken
on board my challenges and have agreed to work on them. In the mean time
they have been giving me personalised service with some of the challenges 
I

have been facing.

I think that need of the hour is to dialogue and help the service 
providers

understand our challenges. Guess this approach will not work with the guys
from the Govt.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 30 July 2015 19:10
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Prashant and all,
Sorry for responding so late.  I would like a proper note on this.  I have
an idea-it may take some time but I think it will work. Of course we have
to
confront the government and the companies. If nothing else it will cause
enough noise and plenty of discomfort.

Please could we have a team of 3 apart from Prashant and Dipendra and take
this off line for a few days.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: Prashant Verma  prashant...@gmail.com

To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!



Dear George,
I am also very concerned with inaccessibility in this arena.
Technology-wise, the only solution is to have set-top boxes with talking
features. Such products exists and our operators just need to adopt them
and
offer to consumers for purchase.
I am sure blind persons will be ready to pay that extra few thousand
rupees
for such devices.
Saksham, particularly Mr. Dipendra Manocha has tried to work with Dish TV
and Tata sky recently to make them adopt these devices. Unfortunately,
after
the initial enthusiasm  not much progress has taken place.

Since we are a negligible market I wonder whether these operators will
ever
offer it for commercial considerations. It needs to be enforced by law.
But we don't have any laws yet to ensure accessibility of ICT
infrastructure. The government has adopted a policy only and not much
work
is being done on it.

In the interim, I have tried to put together the channel list of popular
service providers in Braille, audio and eText on my website. Keeping them
up-to-date has proved to be very difficult however.
The Tata Sky channel list  is available on the page given below. you can
at
least check the number of your favourite channel. Tata Sky is also
providing
the program guide on their website but it is not fully accessible.
Channel list:


http://www.worldofdth.com/thread-wod-exclusive-tatasky-channel-list-as-on-1
1

-july-2015
Tata Sky TV guide:
http://www.tatasky.com/wps/portal/TataSky/channels/tvguide

We should together do something about this.

With regards,
Prashant







-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: 12 July 2015 13:12
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Hi Folks,



I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has
become
to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it
is
going to be for us. On the one hand digital India

Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-30 Thread kanchan Pamnani

Prashant and all,
Sorry for responding so late.  I would like a proper note on this.  I have 
an idea-it may take some time but I think it will work. Of course we have to 
confront the government and the companies. If nothing else it will cause 
enough noise and plenty of discomfort.


Please could we have a team of 3 apart from Prashant and Dipendra and take 
this off line for a few days.

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: Prashant Verma  prashant...@gmail.com
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!



Dear George,
I am also very concerned with inaccessibility in this arena.
Technology-wise, the only solution is to have set-top boxes with talking
features. Such products exists and our operators just need to adopt them 
and

offer to consumers for purchase.
I am sure blind persons will be ready to pay that extra few thousand 
rupees

for such devices.
Saksham, particularly Mr. Dipendra Manocha has tried to work with Dish TV
and Tata sky recently to make them adopt these devices. Unfortunately, 
after

the initial enthusiasm  not much progress has taken place.

Since we are a negligible market I wonder whether these operators will 
ever

offer it for commercial considerations. It needs to be enforced by law.
But we don't have any laws yet to ensure accessibility of ICT
infrastructure. The government has adopted a policy only and not much 
work

is being done on it.

In the interim, I have tried to put together the channel list of popular
service providers in Braille, audio and eText on my website. Keeping them
up-to-date has proved to be very difficult however.
The Tata Sky channel list  is available on the page given below. you can 
at
least check the number of your favourite channel. Tata Sky is also 
providing

the program guide on their website but it is not fully accessible.
Channel list:
http://www.worldofdth.com/thread-wod-exclusive-tatasky-channel-list-as-on-11
-july-2015
Tata Sky TV guide:
http://www.tatasky.com/wps/portal/TataSky/channels/tvguide

We should together do something about this.

With regards,
Prashant







-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of George Abraham
Sent: 12 July 2015 13:12
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Hi Folks,



I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has 
become

to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it 
is

going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
then we are in for deep trouble.



Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
mobile phones / Tabs on:
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ia.org.in


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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-13 Thread Zoher


I think the matter should be taken to the information and broadcast 
ministry. As set top box is made compulsory they can force the DTH provider 
to provide talking set top box on demand. 1 more provision can be made that 
like gsm sim card we should be able to install any digicard in the set top 
box of our choice.


I agree with Jorge sir, the digitization has put new challenges to VI 
community not only in DTH Matter but also in other areas of life.


Still Prashant Sir and group of peoples struggle for Talking ATM is not 
over, we are facing the problem of inaccessible money deposit machines.


Many of newly constructed buildings has the lift which has touch pad.

New models of of ovens and washing machines has touch pad or even those does 
not have the touch pad and has physical keys they are not embossed.


It makes me think that was analog time was better for VI community?

- Original Message - 
From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!



Would you know people at positions of influence at any of the service
providers?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Prashant Verma
Sent: 13 July 2015 12:50
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Technically this is possible only when the settop box has built-in TTS.
Service providers are now a days selling boxes of diferent types e.g. with
HD quality, with recording etc.
All they have to do is to introduce the set-top box developed in UK with
RNIB as one of the options.
If the set-top boxes were interchangeable  between operators then also we
can just buy such a box from outside india and use in our homes.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent: 12 July 2015 16:45
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Dear George Sir,

Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With the
growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have a couple
of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the whole system. 
One

button can be used to switch over the interactive voice and the other
button
can help us in repeating the highlighted message. Rest all the buttons can
continue doing the existing functions.

This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it would
be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
level.

--
Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the hand
is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will wipe the
tears

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:

Hi Folks,



I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding
it more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata
Ski promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I
started with Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily
thanks to the favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement
and the more sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more
difficult it has become to navigate. What is the state with other DTH

services?




Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great
it is going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great
promise for us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us
as stakeholders, then we are in for deep trouble.



Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
essindia.org.in


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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-13 Thread Tilakprasad Joshi
George Sir is right, we need to find the influential person, calling
customer care doesn't help in anyway.

On 7/13/15, sampath raj rao sampath.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think it's time to put the word to the concerned dept. as a few
 months ago we had an article published on dailies over the portability
 of DTH service using the same set up box so that such newly designed
 portable setup boxes can be built with accessibility features from the
 scrap itself instead raising this issue later after such boxes come
 into market.



 On 7/13/15, Zoher zos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the matter should be taken to the information and broadcast
 ministry. As set top box is made compulsory they can force the DTH
 provider

 to provide talking set top box on demand. 1 more provision can be made
 that

 like gsm sim card we should be able to install any digicard in the set
 top
 box of our choice.

  I agree with Jorge sir, the digitization has put new challenges to VI
 community not only in DTH Matter but also in other areas of life.

  Still Prashant Sir and group of peoples struggle for Talking ATM is not
 over, we are facing the problem of inaccessible money deposit machines.

 Many of newly constructed buildings has the lift which has touch pad.

 New models of of ovens and washing machines has touch pad or even those
 does

 not have the touch pad and has physical keys they are not embossed.

 It makes me think that was analog time was better for VI community?

 - Original Message -
 From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!


 Would you know people at positions of influence at any of the service
 providers?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: 13 July 2015 12:50
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

 Technically this is possible only when the settop box has built-in TTS.
 Service providers are now a days selling boxes of diferent types e.g.
 with
 HD quality, with recording etc.
 All they have to do is to introduce the set-top box developed in UK with
 RNIB as one of the options.
 If the set-top boxes were interchangeable  between operators then also
 we
 can just buy such a box from outside india and use in our homes.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Mahesh Narasimhan
 Sent: 12 July 2015 16:45
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

 Dear George Sir,

 Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With
 the
 growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have a
 couple
 of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the whole system.
 One
 button can be used to switch over the interactive voice and the other
 button
 can help us in repeating the highlighted message. Rest all the buttons
 can
 continue doing the existing functions.

 This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it
 would
 be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

 If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
 level.

 --
 Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
 hand
 is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will wipe the
 tears

 With best regards,
 Mahesh Narasimhan
 Mobile: +91-9899353960
 E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
 Skype: maheshdel88




 On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding
 it more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata
 Ski promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I
 started with Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily
 thanks to the favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement
 and the more sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more
 difficult it has become to navigate. What is the state with other DTH
 services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great
 it is going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great
 promise for us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us
 as stakeholders, then we are in for deep trouble.



 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
 accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
 http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
 essindia.org.in


 Search for old postings at:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/

 To unsubscribe send a message to
 accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in

Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-13 Thread sampath raj rao
I think it's time to put the word to the concerned dept. as a few
months ago we had an article published on dailies over the portability
of DTH service using the same set up box so that such newly designed
portable setup boxes can be built with accessibility features from the
scrap itself instead raising this issue later after such boxes come
into market.



On 7/13/15, Zoher zos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think the matter should be taken to the information and broadcast
 ministry. As set top box is made compulsory they can force the DTH provider

 to provide talking set top box on demand. 1 more provision can be made that

 like gsm sim card we should be able to install any digicard in the set top
 box of our choice.

  I agree with Jorge sir, the digitization has put new challenges to VI
 community not only in DTH Matter but also in other areas of life.

  Still Prashant Sir and group of peoples struggle for Talking ATM is not
 over, we are facing the problem of inaccessible money deposit machines.

 Many of newly constructed buildings has the lift which has touch pad.

 New models of of ovens and washing machines has touch pad or even those does

 not have the touch pad and has physical keys they are not embossed.

 It makes me think that was analog time was better for VI community?

 - Original Message -
 From: George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!


 Would you know people at positions of influence at any of the service
 providers?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Prashant Verma
 Sent: 13 July 2015 12:50
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

 Technically this is possible only when the settop box has built-in TTS.
 Service providers are now a days selling boxes of diferent types e.g.
 with
 HD quality, with recording etc.
 All they have to do is to introduce the set-top box developed in UK with
 RNIB as one of the options.
 If the set-top boxes were interchangeable  between operators then also we
 can just buy such a box from outside india and use in our homes.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Mahesh Narasimhan
 Sent: 12 July 2015 16:45
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

 Dear George Sir,

 Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With the
 growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have a
 couple
 of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the whole system.
 One
 button can be used to switch over the interactive voice and the other
 button
 can help us in repeating the highlighted message. Rest all the buttons
 can
 continue doing the existing functions.

 This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it
 would
 be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

 If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
 level.

 --
 Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
 hand
 is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will wipe the
 tears

 With best regards,
 Mahesh Narasimhan
 Mobile: +91-9899353960
 E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
 Skype: maheshdel88




 On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding
 it more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata
 Ski promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I
 started with Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily
 thanks to the favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement
 and the more sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more
 difficult it has become to navigate. What is the state with other DTH
 services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great
 it is going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great
 promise for us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us
 as stakeholders, then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-13 Thread Prashant Verma
Technically this is possible only when the settop box has built-in TTS.
Service providers are now a days selling boxes of diferent types e.g. with
HD quality, with recording etc. 
All they have to do is to introduce the set-top box developed in UK with
RNIB as one of the options. 
If the set-top boxes were interchangeable  between operators then also we
can just buy such a box from outside india and use in our homes.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent: 12 July 2015 16:45
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Dear George Sir,

Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With the
growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have a couple
of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the whole system. One
button can be used to switch over the interactive voice and the other button
can help us in repeating the highlighted message. Rest all the buttons can
continue doing the existing functions.

This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it would
be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest level.

--
Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the hand
is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will wipe the
tears

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding 
 it more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata 
 Ski promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I 
 started with Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily 
 thanks to the favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement 
 and the more sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more 
 difficult it has become to navigate. What is the state with other DTH
services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great 
 it is going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great 
 promise for us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us 
 as stakeholders, then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-13 Thread George Abraham
Would you know people at positions of influence at any of the service
providers? 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma 
Sent: 13 July 2015 12:50
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Technically this is possible only when the settop box has built-in TTS.
Service providers are now a days selling boxes of diferent types e.g. with
HD quality, with recording etc. 
All they have to do is to introduce the set-top box developed in UK with
RNIB as one of the options. 
If the set-top boxes were interchangeable  between operators then also we
can just buy such a box from outside india and use in our homes.


-Original Message-
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Of Mahesh Narasimhan
Sent: 12 July 2015 16:45
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Dear George Sir,

Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With the
growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have a couple
of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the whole system. One
button can be used to switch over the interactive voice and the other
button
can help us in repeating the highlighted message. Rest all the buttons can
continue doing the existing functions.

This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it would
be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
level.

--
Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the hand
is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will wipe the
tears

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding 
 it more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata 
 Ski promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I 
 started with Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily 
 thanks to the favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement 
 and the more sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more 
 difficult it has become to navigate. What is the state with other DTH
services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great 
 it is going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great 
 promise for us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us 
 as stakeholders, then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread Mahesh Narasimhan
Dear George Sir,

Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With
the growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have
a couple of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the
whole system. One button can be used to switch over the interactive
voice and the other button can help us in repeating the highlighted
message. Rest all the buttons can continue doing the existing
functions.

This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it
would be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest level.

-- 
Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
 more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
 promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
 Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
 favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
 sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has become
 to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it is
 going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
 us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
 then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread Tilakprasad Joshi
Could any of you provide contact details of Tata Sky where I can
directly reach them?

On 7/12/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Could someone describe the status and level and quality of audio
 description for TV shows and movies in developed countries like the
 United Kingdom? I know that there is widespread audio description in
 UK and something with Netblink in this field itself also transpired a
 while ago.
 I would love to know someone's personal experience, views, thoughts
 and opinions about this in developed countries and the possibilities
 and feasibility of bringing this to India as well.
 Thanks.

 On 7/12/15, sampath raj rao sampath.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 I feel as an immediate and temporary relief, service providers can
 atleast make the channel number and channel name be announced in voice
 along with the display of the same on screen as it appears on screen
 for a few seconds normally. Hope this is not a tedious job for the
 service providers as it is to do with the software and it can be
 updated as usually how the software is updated on our DTH setup box
 once in a few months atleast for those who request.
 In future all the features can be made in voice through the same
 software in such a way while displaying can read and hope this may not
 be expensive as it is to do only with software and nothing with
 hardware.



 On 7/12/15, Mahesh Narasimhan maheshde...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear George Sir,

 Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With
 the growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have
 a couple of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the
 whole system. One button can be used to switch over the interactive
 voice and the other button can help us in repeating the highlighted
 message. Rest all the buttons can continue doing the existing
 functions.

 This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it
 would be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

 If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
 level.

 --
 Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
 hand is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will
 wipe the tears

 With best regards,
 Mahesh Narasimhan
 Mobile: +91-9899353960
 E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
 Skype: maheshdel88




 On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding
 it
 more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
 promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started
 with
 Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
 favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
 sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has
 become
 to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great
 it
 is
 going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise
 for
 us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as
 stakeholders,
 then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread Mahesh Narasimhan
Tata Sky toll free number: 18605006633.

-- 
Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
hand is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will
wipe the tears

With best regards,
Mahesh Narasimhan
Mobile: +91-9899353960
E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
Skype: maheshdel88




On 7/13/15, Tilakprasad Joshi tilakjoshi1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could any of you provide contact details of Tata Sky where I can
 directly reach them?

 On 7/12/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Could someone describe the status and level and quality of audio
 description for TV shows and movies in developed countries like the
 United Kingdom? I know that there is widespread audio description in
 UK and something with Netblink in this field itself also transpired a
 while ago.
 I would love to know someone's personal experience, views, thoughts
 and opinions about this in developed countries and the possibilities
 and feasibility of bringing this to India as well.
 Thanks.

 On 7/12/15, sampath raj rao sampath.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 I feel as an immediate and temporary relief, service providers can
 atleast make the channel number and channel name be announced in voice
 along with the display of the same on screen as it appears on screen
 for a few seconds normally. Hope this is not a tedious job for the
 service providers as it is to do with the software and it can be
 updated as usually how the software is updated on our DTH setup box
 once in a few months atleast for those who request.
 In future all the features can be made in voice through the same
 software in such a way while displaying can read and hope this may not
 be expensive as it is to do only with software and nothing with
 hardware.



 On 7/12/15, Mahesh Narasimhan maheshde...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear George Sir,

 Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With
 the growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have
 a couple of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the
 whole system. One button can be used to switch over the interactive
 voice and the other button can help us in repeating the highlighted
 message. Rest all the buttons can continue doing the existing
 functions.

 This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it
 would be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

 If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
 level.

 --
 Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
 hand is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will
 wipe the tears

 With best regards,
 Mahesh Narasimhan
 Mobile: +91-9899353960
 E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
 Skype: maheshdel88




 On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding
 it
 more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata
 Ski
 promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started
 with
 Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
 favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
 sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has
 become
 to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great
 it
 is
 going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise
 for
 us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as
 stakeholders,
 then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread Vikas Kapoor
Not only that, but also just like the local cable operators, they've also 
started shifting various channels to different numbers very frequently, that is 
why I've now stopped maintaining the list of the channels.
  - Original Message - 
  From: George Abraham 
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' 
  Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:11 PM
  Subject: [AI] DTH entertainment services!


  Hi Folks,

   

  I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
  more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
  promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
  Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
  favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
  sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has become
  to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?

   

  Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it is
  going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
  us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
  then we are in for deep trouble. 



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread Nirmal Verma
Dear George

Handling two remotes was main problem. I bought a videocon tv with inbuilt
dth. Now we have only one remote and the challenge was only remembering
channels. I created a small list of channels we see and the job was done.

Nirmal
On 12-Jul-2015 2:17 pm, Prashant Verma prashant...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear George,
 I am also very concerned with inaccessibility in this arena.
 Technology-wise, the only solution is to have set-top boxes with talking
 features. Such products exists and our operators just need to adopt them
 and
 offer to consumers for purchase.
 I am sure blind persons will be ready to pay that extra few thousand rupees
 for such devices.
 Saksham, particularly Mr. Dipendra Manocha has tried to work with Dish TV
 and Tata sky recently to make them adopt these devices. Unfortunately,
 after
 the initial enthusiasm  not much progress has taken place.

 Since we are a negligible market I wonder whether these operators will ever
 offer it for commercial considerations. It needs to be enforced by law.
 But we don't have any laws yet to ensure accessibility of ICT
 infrastructure. The government has adopted a policy only and not much  work
 is being done on it.

 In the interim, I have tried to put together the channel list of popular
 service providers in Braille, audio and eText on my website. Keeping them
 up-to-date has proved to be very difficult however.
 The Tata Sky channel list  is available on the page given below. you can at
 least check the number of your favourite channel. Tata Sky is also
 providing
 the program guide on their website but it is not fully accessible.
 Channel list:

 http://www.worldofdth.com/thread-wod-exclusive-tatasky-channel-list-as-on-11
 -july-2015
 Tata Sky TV guide:
 http://www.tatasky.com/wps/portal/TataSky/channels/tvguide

 We should together do something about this.

 With regards,
 Prashant







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 Behalf
 Of George Abraham
 Sent: 12 July 2015 13:12
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
 more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
 promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
 Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
 favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
 sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has become
 to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it is
 going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
 us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
 then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread sampath raj rao
I feel as an immediate and temporary relief, service providers can
atleast make the channel number and channel name be announced in voice
along with the display of the same on screen as it appears on screen
for a few seconds normally. Hope this is not a tedious job for the
service providers as it is to do with the software and it can be
updated as usually how the software is updated on our DTH setup box
once in a few months atleast for those who request.
In future all the features can be made in voice through the same
software in such a way while displaying can read and hope this may not
be expensive as it is to do only with software and nothing with
hardware.



On 7/12/15, Mahesh Narasimhan maheshde...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear George Sir,

 Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With
 the growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have
 a couple of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the
 whole system. One button can be used to switch over the interactive
 voice and the other button can help us in repeating the highlighted
 message. Rest all the buttons can continue doing the existing
 functions.

 This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it
 would be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

 If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
 level.

 --
 Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
 hand is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will
 wipe the tears

 With best regards,
 Mahesh Narasimhan
 Mobile: +91-9899353960
 E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
 Skype: maheshdel88




 On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
 more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
 promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
 Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
 favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
 sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has
 become
 to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it
 is
 going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
 us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
 then we are in for deep trouble.



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread George Abraham
This talk of digital India and smart cities at this rate are frightening
prospects!

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma 
Sent: 12 July 2015 14:17
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Dear George,
I am also very concerned with inaccessibility in this arena. 
Technology-wise, the only solution is to have set-top boxes with talking
features. Such products exists and our operators just need to adopt them
and
offer to consumers for purchase.
I am sure blind persons will be ready to pay that extra few thousand rupees
for such devices. 
Saksham, particularly Mr. Dipendra Manocha has tried to work with Dish TV
and Tata sky recently to make them adopt these devices. Unfortunately,
after
the initial enthusiasm  not much progress has taken place.

Since we are a negligible market I wonder whether these operators will ever
offer it for commercial considerations. It needs to be enforced by law. 
But we don't have any laws yet to ensure accessibility of ICT
infrastructure. The government has adopted a policy only and not much  work
is being done on it.

In the interim, I have tried to put together the channel list of popular
service providers in Braille, audio and eText on my website. Keeping them
up-to-date has proved to be very difficult however. 
The Tata Sky channel list  is available on the page given below. you can at
least check the number of your favourite channel. Tata Sky is also
providing
the program guide on their website but it is not fully accessible. 
Channel list:
http://www.worldofdth.com/thread-wod-exclusive-tatasky-channel-list-as-on-1
1
-july-2015 
Tata Sky TV guide:
http://www.tatasky.com/wps/portal/TataSky/channels/tvguide 

We should together do something about this.

With regards, 
Prashant 







-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: 12 July 2015 13:12
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Hi Folks,

 

I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has become
to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?

 

Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it is
going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
then we are in for deep trouble. 



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread Prashant Verma
Dear George,
I am also very concerned with inaccessibility in this arena. 
Technology-wise, the only solution is to have set-top boxes with talking
features. Such products exists and our operators just need to adopt them and
offer to consumers for purchase.
I am sure blind persons will be ready to pay that extra few thousand rupees
for such devices. 
Saksham, particularly Mr. Dipendra Manocha has tried to work with Dish TV
and Tata sky recently to make them adopt these devices. Unfortunately, after
the initial enthusiasm  not much progress has taken place.

Since we are a negligible market I wonder whether these operators will ever
offer it for commercial considerations. It needs to be enforced by law. 
But we don't have any laws yet to ensure accessibility of ICT
infrastructure. The government has adopted a policy only and not much  work
is being done on it.

In the interim, I have tried to put together the channel list of popular
service providers in Braille, audio and eText on my website. Keeping them
up-to-date has proved to be very difficult however. 
The Tata Sky channel list  is available on the page given below. you can at
least check the number of your favourite channel. Tata Sky is also providing
the program guide on their website but it is not fully accessible. 
Channel list:
http://www.worldofdth.com/thread-wod-exclusive-tatasky-channel-list-as-on-11
-july-2015 
Tata Sky TV guide:
http://www.tatasky.com/wps/portal/TataSky/channels/tvguide 

We should together do something about this.

With regards, 
Prashant 







-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: 12 July 2015 13:12
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

Hi Folks,

 

I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding it
more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has become
to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?

 

Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it is
going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise for
us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as stakeholders,
then we are in for deep trouble. 



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Re: [AI] DTH entertainment services!

2015-07-12 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi,
Could someone describe the status and level and quality of audio
description for TV shows and movies in developed countries like the
United Kingdom? I know that there is widespread audio description in
UK and something with Netblink in this field itself also transpired a
while ago.
I would love to know someone's personal experience, views, thoughts
and opinions about this in developed countries and the possibilities
and feasibility of bringing this to India as well.
Thanks.

On 7/12/15, sampath raj rao sampath.4...@gmail.com wrote:
 I feel as an immediate and temporary relief, service providers can
 atleast make the channel number and channel name be announced in voice
 along with the display of the same on screen as it appears on screen
 for a few seconds normally. Hope this is not a tedious job for the
 service providers as it is to do with the software and it can be
 updated as usually how the software is updated on our DTH setup box
 once in a few months atleast for those who request.
 In future all the features can be made in voice through the same
 software in such a way while displaying can read and hope this may not
 be expensive as it is to do only with software and nothing with
 hardware.



 On 7/12/15, Mahesh Narasimhan maheshde...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear George Sir,

 Great point you have shared! I would like to share a suggestion. With
 the growing demand for the DTH services, the remote controls can have
 a couple of extra buttons on it which would be integrated with the
 whole system. One button can be used to switch over the interactive
 voice and the other button can help us in repeating the highlighted
 message. Rest all the buttons can continue doing the existing
 functions.

 This would be helpful not only for visually impaired persons, but it
 would be of great help to the senior citizens of the country as well.

 If convincing, I believe this matter must be escalated to the highest
 level.

 --
 Good friendship is like the relationship between  eye  hand! If the
 hand is hurt, the eye will cry!  when the eye cries, the hand will
 wipe the tears

 With best regards,
 Mahesh Narasimhan
 Mobile: +91-9899353960
 E-mail: maheshde...@gmail.com
 Skype: maheshdel88




 On 7/12/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi Folks,



 I use Tata Ski at home. With each new set top box, I have been finding
 it
 more and more difficult to navigate the menus. Not sure if the Tata Ski
 promoters consider us blind people as stakeholders.  When I started with
 Tata Ski, I could get to the channels I wanted easily thanks to the
 favourite feature. Sadly, with technological advancement and the more
 sophisticated the digitisation has become, the more difficult it has
 become
 to navigate. What is the state with other DTH services?



 Given the nation's rush towards digitisation, I am not sure how great it
 is
 going to be for us. On the one hand digital India holds great promise
 for
 us, but if the digitisation process does not consider us as
 stakeholders,
 then we are in for deep trouble.



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