Re: [ActiveDir] Problem in AD

2006-08-23 Thread Pankaj Verma

before installing dc01 & dc02 , DC03 was the global cataglog server
..now dc01 & dc02 are global catalog servers

On 8/23/06, Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




if it is single domain and not all DCs are a GC, make ALL DCs a GC

besides that also make sure a DNS server can be contacted

a bit more details please



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Subject: [ActiveDir] Problem in AD




Hi All


I have 3 domain controllers.  I transfer all the FSMO roles from DC03
to DC02 after that I shutdown D03 & I restarted D02 & dC01 but after
that I was not able to communicate with active directory then switched
on DC03 after that every thing is working fine. If somebody can tell
me what could be the problem and after the in event viewer I am
getting an error

 Event id =1030 & 1058 source = usernv



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RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread Steve Linehan
Not sure on if it will be configurable I just happened to run across it
on something else I was working on and saw the change request.  I would
imagine that it will not be configurable as the intended behavior was to
check the CRL especially since sensitive operations such as password
resets are generally going over LDAPS.  However someone who is beta
testing Windows Server 2003 SP2 as a customer could verify that the
change occurred and then provide feedback if it was undesirable.

Thanks,

-Steve


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:38 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside -->
problem solved

Oh this could catch some folks by surprise... 

Out of curiosity, is it implemented with a "turn on this reg key to
enable this" or will it just occur?

I prefer it be something admins turn on, otherwise it will catch people
by surprise like the SP1 Service Control Manager ACL. 

And if it there isn't a reg entry to turn it on, can we have a reg entry
to turn it off or do we wait until SP3? :)


  joe


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside -->
problem solved

Furthermore the current implementation of wldap32 in Windows Server 2003
SP1 does not request that the certificate be verified.  This has been
changed in a QFE for Windows Server 2003 SP1 and will be addressed in
the next service pack for Windows Server 2003, SP2.  So you may see a
change in behavior going forward at least on the server platform.

Thanks,

-Steve


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:27 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside -->
problem solved

Windows 2000 RTM, by default, does not perform CRL checking; XP and 2003
do.
However, there are behavior variances on an application-by-application
basis. For more information:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/cryptographyetc/tshtcrl
.msp
x#ES3AE

Laura
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:06 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> It actually depends on the policy defined for the SSL stack.  
> In Windows, this is typically configured globally for all SSL, 
> although I'm not sure where.  It definiitely used to be the case that 
> Windows that CRLs were never checked, but I have seen some other SSL 
> stuff with HTTP actually checking the CRL on 2K3 servers.
> 
> It is also possible in SSPI with Schannel to ignore specific 
> conditions, so this could be something that is ignored in the default 
> LDAP SSL routine in Windows, but I doubt it.  The callback function 
> for server certificate verification will give you the error code if 
> there is a problem and the client can then deal with it as it sees 
> fit.
> 
> CRLs can definitely be trouble though.  They are by far the most 
> vexing thing to troubleshoot in SSL, and PKI in general.
> 
> Joe
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thommes, Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Hi joe,
> The CRL location is *not* available from the outside.  
> And since neither adfind, ldp or Outlook Express seemed to care, I am 
> guessing that not many
> (any?) tools require it.  Kinda makes ya wonder why you would have it 
> if it's not used.  Sorta like not using the book of bad credit card 
> numbers when someone handed you a credit card!  (maybe some of you are

> old enough to remember this safeguard before there were computers 
> everywhere!  LOL!).
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
> Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 7:15 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Cool, is the CRL available from the outside at all? I am really 
> curious if that is truly needed from the client when using LDAPS, it 
> doesn't seem to be needed but my testing has been far from perfect in 
> that regard.
> 
>   joe
> 
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, 
> Michael M.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 AM
> To:

RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread joe
Oh this could catch some folks by surprise... 

Out of curiosity, is it implemented with a "turn on this reg key to enable
this" or will it just occur?

I prefer it be something admins turn on, otherwise it will catch people by
surprise like the SP1 Service Control Manager ACL. 

And if it there isn't a reg entry to turn it on, can we have a reg entry to
turn it off or do we wait until SP3? :)


  joe


--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem
solved

Furthermore the current implementation of wldap32 in Windows Server 2003
SP1 does not request that the certificate be verified.  This has been
changed in a QFE for Windows Server 2003 SP1 and will be addressed in
the next service pack for Windows Server 2003, SP2.  So you may see a
change in behavior going forward at least on the server platform.

Thanks,

-Steve


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:27 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside -->
problem solved

Windows 2000 RTM, by default, does not perform CRL checking; XP and 2003
do.
However, there are behavior variances on an application-by-application
basis. For more information:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/cryptographyetc/tshtcrl
.msp
x#ES3AE

Laura
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:06 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> It actually depends on the policy defined for the SSL stack.  
> In Windows, this is typically configured globally for all SSL, 
> although I'm not sure where.  It definiitely used to be the case that 
> Windows that CRLs were never checked, but I have seen some other SSL 
> stuff with HTTP actually checking the CRL on 2K3 servers.
> 
> It is also possible in SSPI with Schannel to ignore specific 
> conditions, so this could be something that is ignored in the default 
> LDAP SSL routine in Windows, but I doubt it.  The callback function 
> for server certificate verification will give you the error code if 
> there is a problem and the client can then deal with it as it sees 
> fit.
> 
> CRLs can definitely be trouble though.  They are by far the most 
> vexing thing to troubleshoot in SSL, and PKI in general.
> 
> Joe
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thommes, Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Hi joe,
> The CRL location is *not* available from the outside.  
> And since neither adfind, ldp or Outlook Express seemed to care, I am 
> guessing that not many
> (any?) tools require it.  Kinda makes ya wonder why you would have it 
> if it's not used.  Sorta like not using the book of bad credit card 
> numbers when someone handed you a credit card!  (maybe some of you are

> old enough to remember this safeguard before there were computers 
> everywhere!  LOL!).
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
> Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 7:15 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Cool, is the CRL available from the outside at all? I am really 
> curious if that is truly needed from the client when using LDAPS, it 
> doesn't seem to be needed but my testing has been far from perfect in 
> that regard.
> 
>   joe
> 
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, 
> Michael M.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem
> solved
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all who responded!  The problem was solved by installing our

> local root CA cert on the "outside" computer since we are "rolling our

> own" and not using one of the well known CAs (Trusted Root 
> Certification Authorities).
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, 
> Michael M.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:36 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Yes, the command is *exactly* the same.  We are thinking th

RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread Steve Linehan
Furthermore the current implementation of wldap32 in Windows Server 2003
SP1 does not request that the certificate be verified.  This has been
changed in a QFE for Windows Server 2003 SP1 and will be addressed in
the next service pack for Windows Server 2003, SP2.  So you may see a
change in behavior going forward at least on the server platform.

Thanks,

-Steve


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:27 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside -->
problem solved

Windows 2000 RTM, by default, does not perform CRL checking; XP and 2003
do.
However, there are behavior variances on an application-by-application
basis. For more information:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/cryptographyetc/tshtcrl
.msp
x#ES3AE

Laura
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:06 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> It actually depends on the policy defined for the SSL stack.  
> In Windows, this is typically configured globally for all SSL, 
> although I'm not sure where.  It definiitely used to be the case that 
> Windows that CRLs were never checked, but I have seen some other SSL 
> stuff with HTTP actually checking the CRL on 2K3 servers.
> 
> It is also possible in SSPI with Schannel to ignore specific 
> conditions, so this could be something that is ignored in the default 
> LDAP SSL routine in Windows, but I doubt it.  The callback function 
> for server certificate verification will give you the error code if 
> there is a problem and the client can then deal with it as it sees 
> fit.
> 
> CRLs can definitely be trouble though.  They are by far the most 
> vexing thing to troubleshoot in SSL, and PKI in general.
> 
> Joe
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thommes, Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Hi joe,
> The CRL location is *not* available from the outside.  
> And since neither adfind, ldp or Outlook Express seemed to care, I am 
> guessing that not many
> (any?) tools require it.  Kinda makes ya wonder why you would have it 
> if it's not used.  Sorta like not using the book of bad credit card 
> numbers when someone handed you a credit card!  (maybe some of you are

> old enough to remember this safeguard before there were computers 
> everywhere!  LOL!).
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
> Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 7:15 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Cool, is the CRL available from the outside at all? I am really 
> curious if that is truly needed from the client when using LDAPS, it 
> doesn't seem to be needed but my testing has been far from perfect in 
> that regard.
> 
>   joe
> 
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, 
> Michael M.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> --> problem
> solved
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all who responded!  The problem was solved by installing our

> local root CA cert on the "outside" computer since we are "rolling our

> own" and not using one of the well known CAs (Trusted Root 
> Certification Authorities).
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, 
> Michael M.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:36 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Yes, the command is *exactly* the same.  We are thinking that our 
> CRL location is not available outside of the firewall.  We generate 
> our own certificates; we don't use a "well known" provider.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Williams, 
> Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:16 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> When you say "It works fine behind our firewall", are you meaning that

> the *exact same* command line works and you get the object returned?
> 
> 
> 
> I tried using adfind to connect to my test DC using port 636 
> and got the 
> exact same error...but I don't have a cert instal

RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Windows 2000 RTM, by default, does not perform CRL checking; XP and 2003 do.
However, there are behavior variances on an application-by-application
basis. For more information:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/cryptographyetc/tshtcrl.msp
x#ES3AE

Laura
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:06 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside 
> --> problem solved
> 
> It actually depends on the policy defined for the SSL stack.  
> In Windows, this is typically configured globally for all 
> SSL, although I'm not sure where.  It definiitely used to be 
> the case that Windows that CRLs were never checked, but I 
> have seen some other SSL stuff with HTTP actually checking 
> the CRL on 2K3 servers.
> 
> It is also possible in SSPI with Schannel to ignore specific 
> conditions, so this could be something that is ignored in the 
> default LDAP SSL routine in Windows, but I doubt it.  The 
> callback function for server certificate verification will 
> give you the error code if there is a problem and the client 
> can then deal with it as it sees fit.
> 
> CRLs can definitely be trouble though.  They are by far the 
> most vexing thing to troubleshoot in SSL, and PKI in general.
> 
> Joe
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thommes, Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside 
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Hi joe,
> The CRL location is *not* available from the outside.  
> And since neither adfind, ldp or Outlook Express seemed to 
> care, I am guessing that not many
> (any?) tools require it.  Kinda makes ya wonder why you would 
> have it if it's not used.  Sorta like not using the book of 
> bad credit card numbers when someone handed you a credit 
> card!  (maybe some of you are old enough to remember this 
> safeguard before there were computers everywhere!  LOL!).
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
> Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 7:15 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside 
> --> problem solved
> 
> 
> Cool, is the CRL available from the outside at all? I am 
> really curious if 
> that is truly needed from the client when using LDAPS, it 
> doesn't seem to be 
> needed but my testing has been far from perfect in that regard.
> 
>   joe
> 
> --
> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Thommes, Michael M.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside 
> --> problem 
> solved
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all who responded!  The problem was solved by 
> installing our local 
> root CA cert on the "outside" computer since we are "rolling 
> our own" and 
> not using one of the well known CAs (Trusted Root Certification 
> Authorities).
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Thommes, Michael M.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:36 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> Yes, the command is *exactly* the same.  We are thinking 
> that our CRL 
> location is not available outside of the firewall.  We 
> generate our own 
> certificates; we don't use a "well known" provider.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Thommes
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Williams, Robert
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:16 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Mike,
> 
> 
> 
> When you say "It works fine behind our firewall", are you 
> meaning that the 
> *exact same* command line works and you get the object returned?
> 
> 
> 
> I tried using adfind to connect to my test DC using port 636 
> and got the 
> exact same error...but I don't have a cert installed on my DC 
> so I'd expect 
> mine not to work.
> 
> Robert Williams
> 
> 
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Thommes, Michael M.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:19 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
>We are trying to set up secure LDAP queries from the 
> outside to AD for 
> pulling email addresses but are running into an issue.  Port 
> 636 has been 
> opened up to our DCs but we get a 0x51 error like the one 
> shown below in 
> this

Re: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread Joe Kaplan
It actually depends on the policy defined for the SSL stack.  In Windows, 
this is typically configured globally for all SSL, although I'm not sure 
where.  It definiitely used to be the case that Windows that CRLs were never 
checked, but I have seen some other SSL stuff with HTTP actually checking 
the CRL on 2K3 servers.


It is also possible in SSPI with Schannel to ignore specific conditions, so 
this could be something that is ignored in the default LDAP SSL routine in 
Windows, but I doubt it.  The callback function for server certificate 
verification will give you the error code if there is a problem and the 
client can then deal with it as it sees fit.


CRLs can definitely be trouble though.  They are by far the most vexing 
thing to troubleshoot in SSL, and PKI in general.


Joe

- Original Message - 
From: "Thommes, Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem 
solved



Hi joe,
   The CRL location is *not* available from the outside.  And since neither 
adfind, ldp or Outlook Express seemed to care, I am guessing that not many 
(any?) tools require it.  Kinda makes ya wonder why you would have it if 
it's not used.  Sorta like not using the book of bad credit card numbers 
when someone handed you a credit card!  (maybe some of you are old enough to 
remember this safeguard before there were computers everywhere!  LOL!).


Mike Thommes



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 7:15 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem 
solved



Cool, is the CRL available from the outside at all? I am really curious if 
that is truly needed from the client when using LDAPS, it doesn't seem to be 
needed but my testing has been far from perfect in that regard.


 joe

--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm






From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.

Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem 
solved




Thanks to all who responded!  The problem was solved by installing our local 
root CA cert on the "outside" computer since we are "rolling our own" and 
not using one of the well known CAs (Trusted Root Certification 
Authorities).




Mike Thommes





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.

Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:36 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside



Hi Robert,

   Yes, the command is *exactly* the same.  We are thinking that our CRL 
location is not available outside of the firewall.  We generate our own 
certificates; we don't use a "well known" provider.




Mike Thommes





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Williams, Robert

Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside



Hey Mike,



When you say "It works fine behind our firewall", are you meaning that the 
*exact same* command line works and you get the object returned?




I tried using adfind to connect to my test DC using port 636 and got the 
exact same error...but I don't have a cert installed on my DC so I'd expect 
mine not to work.


Robert Williams



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.

Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside



Hi,

  We are trying to set up secure LDAP queries from the outside to AD for 
pulling email addresses but are running into an issue.  Port 636 has been 
opened up to our DCs but we get a 0x51 error like the one shown below in 
this example of using "adfind":




adfind -h dc1.abc.com:636 -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -up *  -default -nodn -f 
sn=thommes extensionAttribute2




AdFind V01.26.00cpp Joe Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) February 2005



LDAP_BIND: [rhino221.anl.gov] Error 0x51 (81) - Server Down

Terminating program.



(extensionAttribute2 is used for email address)



Portqry shows that the DC is listening on port 636.  Using "ldp", the bind 
operation seems to want to default to port 389 (which is not open).




It works fine behind our firewall.  Is there some other port that needs to 
be open (besides 389)?  Or maybe some security feature (we are running 
w2k3/sp1 on our DCs) that is getting in the way?  Any help is appreciated!




TIA,

Mike Thommes





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RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
Hi joe,
The CRL location is *not* available from the outside.  And since neither 
adfind, ldp or Outlook Express seemed to care, I am guessing that not many 
(any?) tools require it.  Kinda makes ya wonder why you would have it if it's 
not used.  Sorta like not using the book of bad credit card numbers when 
someone handed you a credit card!  (maybe some of you are old enough to 
remember this safeguard before there were computers everywhere!  LOL!).
 
Mike Thommes



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Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 7:15 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved


Cool, is the CRL available from the outside at all? I am really curious if that 
is truly needed from the client when using LDAPS, it doesn't seem to be needed 
but my testing has been far from perfect in that regard.
 
  joe
 
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M.
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved



Thanks to all who responded!  The problem was solved by installing our local 
root CA cert on the "outside" computer since we are "rolling our own" and not 
using one of the well known CAs (Trusted Root Certification Authorities).

 

Mike Thommes

 



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M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:36 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside

 

Hi Robert,

Yes, the command is *exactly* the same.  We are thinking that our CRL 
location is not available outside of the firewall.  We generate our own 
certificates; we don't use a "well known" provider.

 

Mike Thommes

 



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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside

 

Hey Mike,

 

When you say "It works fine behind our firewall", are you meaning that the 
*exact same* command line works and you get the object returned?

 

I tried using adfind to connect to my test DC using port 636 and got the exact 
same error...but I don't have a cert installed on my DC so I'd expect mine not 
to work.

Robert Williams 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael 
M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside

 

Hi,

   We are trying to set up secure LDAP queries from the outside to AD for 
pulling email addresses but are running into an issue.  Port 636 has been 
opened up to our DCs but we get a 0x51 error like the one shown below in this 
example of using "adfind":

 

adfind -h dc1.abc.com:636 -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -up *  -default -nodn -f 
sn=thommes extensionAttribute2

 

AdFind V01.26.00cpp Joe Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) February 2005

 

LDAP_BIND: [rhino221.anl.gov] Error 0x51 (81) - Server Down

Terminating program.

 

(extensionAttribute2 is used for email address)

 

Portqry shows that the DC is listening on port 636.  Using "ldp", the bind 
operation seems to want to default to port 389 (which is not open).

 

It works fine behind our firewall.  Is there some other port that needs to be 
open (besides 389)?  Or maybe some security feature (we are running w2k3/sp1 on 
our DCs) that is getting in the way?  Any help is appreciated!

 

TIA,

Mike Thommes

 

 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread joe



Cool, is the CRL available from the outside at all? I am 
really curious if that is truly needed from the client when using LDAPS, it 
doesn't seem to be needed but my testing has been far from perfect in that 
regard.
 
  joe
 

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M.Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:06 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP 
queries from the outside --> problem solved


Thanks to all who 
responded!  The problem was solved by installing our local root CA cert on 
the “outside” computer since we are “rolling our own” and not using one of the 
well known CAs (Trusted Root Certification 
Authorities).
 
Mike 
Thommes
 




From: 
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On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:36 
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP 
queries from the outside
 
Hi 
Robert,
    Yes, 
the command is *exactly* the 
same.  We are thinking that our CRL location is not available outside of 
the firewall.  We generate our own certificates; we don’t use a “well 
known” provider.
 
Mike 
Thommes
 




From: 
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On Behalf Of Williams, 
RobertSent: Tuesday, August 
22, 2006 9:16 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP 
queries from the outside
 
Hey 
Mike,
 
When you say “It works 
fine behind our firewall”, are you meaning that the *exact same* command line works and you get 
the object returned?
 
I tried using adfind to 
connect to my test DC using port 636 and got the exact same error…but I don’t 
have a cert installed on my DC so I’d expect mine not to 
work.

Robert 
Williams 



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On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:19 
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries 
from the outside
 
Hi,
   We are trying to set up 
secure LDAP queries from the outside to AD for pulling email addresses but are 
running into an issue.  Port 636 has been opened up to our DCs but we get a 
0x51 error like the one shown below in this example of using 
“adfind”:
 
adfind -h dc1.abc.com:636 -u 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -up *  -default -nodn -f sn=thommes 
extensionAttribute2
 
AdFind V01.26.00cpp Joe Richards 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) February 2005
 
LDAP_BIND: [rhino221.anl.gov] Error 
0x51 (81) - Server Down
Terminating 
program.
 
(extensionAttribute2 is used for 
email address)
 
Portqry shows that the DC is 
listening on port 636.  Using “ldp”, the bind operation seems to want to 
default to port 389 (which is not open).
 
It works fine behind our 
firewall.  Is there some other port that needs to be open (besides 
389)?  Or maybe some security feature (we are running w2k3/sp1 on our DCs) 
that is getting in the way?  Any help is 
appreciated!
 
TIA,
Mike 
Thommes
 
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

2006-08-23 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
No, in case you screw up a GPO (vs. deleting it by accident) there's no
need to first delete and then restore the backed-up GPO. The values
won't be "merged" - the existing one will be completely overwritten.  

/Guido

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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:14 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

Duly noted

one other query on a similar note

if we do need to restore GPO with GPMC say in the scenario of admin
error is it
better working practice to DELETE existing GPO, presumably wait for
sysvol 
replication and then restore ??

seems the best way to get the 'clean state' and not have issues say of
merged values ??

GT

> Yep - but I'd also run the GetReportsForAllGPOs.wsf script during your
> backup job - these reports are very useful to discover what may have
> changed in a GPO after the last backup...
>
> /Guido
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:08 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)
>
> thanks both
>
> What this is all about is putting in place the necessary operational
> practices to
> ensure capability to restore in the event of scenario of restore of
GPO.
>
>>From both your notes it seems that with the backups of the GPO's
> themselves
> (backupallGPOs.wsf) together with the output from
ListSOMPolicyTree.wsf
> scripts I
> have ALL necessary information for the return of the GPO (and the OU
to
> which it is
> linked) to prior state
>
> Thanks
>
>> Graham-
>> The Inheritance and Delegation tabs (when you're sitting on a
> container object
> like an OU in GPMC) provides the information indicated below. I guess
> I'm
> wondering what you're missing from that? Its true that GPMC
>> backup/restore does not restore links, link order or Enforced flags,
> but there are
> 3rd party products that can do this, combining GPO restore with the AD
> parts of
> that.
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham
Turner
> Sent:
> Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:05 AM
>> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)
>>
>> Dear all, as i recall / understand group policy links are stored as
an
> attribute
>> (gplink) of the OU.
>>
>> It seems that GPMC is fine at summarising the links on a per OU basis
> as you step
> down the forest / domain structure.
>>
>> However it seems to lack a summary of OU / linked GPO(s) / link order
> / security
> filtering / delegation
>>
>> Would seem to be helpful in the context of a documentation of an
> Active Directory,
> especially given the scenario of restore of a GPO which does not look
to
> restore
> links, let alone the link order which would need to be restored
somehow
> in the
> event of GPO restore.
>>
>> Thanks, as always
>>
>> GT
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Re: [ActiveDir] Exclude from GPO

2006-08-23 Thread Matt Hargraves
Yeah, it's called creating a GPO that has that setting disabled (not "not defined", disabled).You could always look at it as having to create a whole new GPO because they want to define whatever that object is on everything else.  If they didn't want to define that, you'd be golden and wouldn't have to do it.
In other words: Remove the setting from everything or you get to create a GPO to disable that setting.On 8/23/06, Harding, Devon <
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Is it possible to exclude a group of computers from ONE setting
from a particular GPO, but apply everything else in that GPO?  I'd have
to create a whole new GPO just for one setting.

 

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RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

2006-08-23 Thread Graham Turner
Duly noted

one other query on a similar note

if we do need to restore GPO with GPMC say in the scenario of admin error is it
better working practice to DELETE existing GPO, presumably wait for sysvol 
replication and then restore ??

seems the best way to get the 'clean state' and not have issues say of merged 
values ??

GT

> Yep - but I'd also run the GetReportsForAllGPOs.wsf script during your
> backup job - these reports are very useful to discover what may have
> changed in a GPO after the last backup...
>
> /Guido
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:08 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)
>
> thanks both
>
> What this is all about is putting in place the necessary operational
> practices to
> ensure capability to restore in the event of scenario of restore of GPO.
>
>>From both your notes it seems that with the backups of the GPO's
> themselves
> (backupallGPOs.wsf) together with the output from ListSOMPolicyTree.wsf
> scripts I
> have ALL necessary information for the return of the GPO (and the OU to
> which it is
> linked) to prior state
>
> Thanks
>
>> Graham-
>> The Inheritance and Delegation tabs (when you're sitting on a
> container object
> like an OU in GPMC) provides the information indicated below. I guess
> I'm
> wondering what you're missing from that? Its true that GPMC
>> backup/restore does not restore links, link order or Enforced flags,
> but there are
> 3rd party products that can do this, combining GPO restore with the AD
> parts of
> that.
>>
>> Darren
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
> Sent:
> Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:05 AM
>> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)
>>
>> Dear all, as i recall / understand group policy links are stored as an
> attribute
>> (gplink) of the OU.
>>
>> It seems that GPMC is fine at summarising the links on a per OU basis
> as you step
> down the forest / domain structure.
>>
>> However it seems to lack a summary of OU / linked GPO(s) / link order
> / security
> filtering / delegation
>>
>> Would seem to be helpful in the context of a documentation of an
> Active Directory,
> especially given the scenario of restore of a GPO which does not look to
> restore
> links, let alone the link order which would need to be restored somehow
> in the
> event of GPO restore.
>>
>> Thanks, as always
>>
>> GT
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RE: [ActiveDir] Exclude from GPO

2006-08-23 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido








Nope – you’ll have to either create a second GPO without the
setting and apply appropriate filters to both so that only one GPO is applied
to your special set and the other GPO to all others.

 

Or you trim your existing GPO so that it is more generic (i.e. it
doesn’t contain the “unwanted” settings for your group of computers) and create
another one that only contains the special settings. In later case you’d then
only have to apply a filter to the “special settings” GPO so that it’s not
applied to your group of computers that shouldn’t get them.

 

/Guido

 





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Is
it possible to exclude a group of computers from ONE setting from a particular
GPO, but apply everything else in that GPO?  I’d have to create a whole
new GPO just for one setting.

 

-Devon


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[ActiveDir] Exclude from GPO

2006-08-23 Thread Harding, Devon








Is it possible to exclude a group of computers from ONE setting
from a particular GPO, but apply everything else in that GPO?  I’d have
to create a whole new GPO just for one setting.

 

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RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

2006-08-23 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
Yep - but I'd also run the GetReportsForAllGPOs.wsf script during your
backup job - these reports are very useful to discover what may have
changed in a GPO after the last backup...

/Guido

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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:08 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

thanks both

What this is all about is putting in place the necessary operational
practices to
ensure capability to restore in the event of scenario of restore of GPO.

>From both your notes it seems that with the backups of the GPO's
themselves
(backupallGPOs.wsf) together with the output from ListSOMPolicyTree.wsf
scripts I
have ALL necessary information for the return of the GPO (and the OU to
which it is
linked) to prior state

Thanks

> Graham-
> The Inheritance and Delegation tabs (when you're sitting on a
container object
like an OU in GPMC) provides the information indicated below. I guess
I'm
wondering what you're missing from that? Its true that GPMC
> backup/restore does not restore links, link order or Enforced flags,
but there are
3rd party products that can do this, combining GPO restore with the AD
parts of
that.
>
> Darren
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
Sent:
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:05 AM
> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)
>
> Dear all, as i recall / understand group policy links are stored as an
attribute
> (gplink) of the OU.
>
> It seems that GPMC is fine at summarising the links on a per OU basis
as you step
down the forest / domain structure.
>
> However it seems to lack a summary of OU / linked GPO(s) / link order
/ security
filtering / delegation
>
> Would seem to be helpful in the context of a documentation of an
Active Directory,
especially given the scenario of restore of a GPO which does not look to
restore
links, let alone the link order which would need to be restored somehow
in the
event of GPO restore.
>
> Thanks, as always
>
> GT
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RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

2006-08-23 Thread Alex Alborzfard








Glad to hear that. Why is one SMTP server
configured with 2 IP addresses?

 



Alex











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3:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 

I have done the telnet… I think I
found the problem, target smtp server was configured to only accept connection
from certain ip address, the source smtp server has 2 ip address, only one was
in the list…it seems to be working fine now…

 

Thanks all

 









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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 

have you looked at this to see if there's
any utility for you?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323350/

 







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 Linan
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
11:35 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question

Thanks for your help.

 

I have found out more about my problem.

 

It looks like the target exchange SMTP
server is acting up, I can telnet sometimes and sometimes I cant. Also
sometimes I am able to telnet but it is really slow and sometimes it even
freezes on me.

 

I am still troubleshooting

 

Thanks

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
9:09 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 



The implications are further down the troubleshooting stack IMHO. 





 





If you cannot telnet to TCP 25 from the source Exchange server to the
target Exchange server, then you have a problem with connectivity.  You
must be able to do this. Both directions. Until you can successfully do this,
then there is nothing more you can hope to accomplish.  You can check DNS
as well, but you can also find out if basic connectivity is functioning using
the ip addresses.  If it's not, and it sounds like it's not, then you'll
need to address that first. 





 





Al

 





On 8/22/06, Ramon Linan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








Thank everyone for the response…I am going nuts here,
everything is a mess.

 

For some reason I cant telnet into domain1 email server from
domain2 , not only that , domain1 has 2 smtp server, one in the port 6000 and
the other in the port 25. Also I send an email to my personal account from
domain2 and I got something like this in the header: 

 

Mail from :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Received: from servername.domain3.com
([ip address] helo=domain3.com

 

So the
domain in the user's email address does not match the email server's
domain…I am wondering what are the implications of that…


 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Brandon Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
4:21 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] Exchange question









 

Obviously if the server is running out of space
make sure you remediate that first.  Second, I would recommend if ServerA
cannot send to ServerB, but the reverse is NOT true, then I would suggest
trying basic SMTP commands to ServerA from ServerB.  Check the
following: 

 

1) Is the server responding to SMTP commands?

2) Can the server accept and deliver the
mail item to intended recipient?  

3) Are the SMTP queues clear in ESM?

4) Is DNS responding correctly (A, PTR, SRV
records present?)?

 

Gut feeling...DNS.

 

That's my first shot!

 

Brandon

 







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



Have you
seen this already? 





http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821910/


 





On
8/22/06, Ramon
 Linan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 







Thanks very much, I think my second question was very easy J but wanted to confirm
it. 

 

The problem now is that we have 500 mg in the hard drive but
the smtp queue is still not delivering the emails from one server to the other.


 

We have 2 emails servers, one holds domain1.com and the other hold domain2.com. domain1.com can send and receive
fine but domain2 cant send to domain2, the emails are stuck in the queue with
that domain, how do I troubleshoot that?

 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
3:07 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question 







 





>>>minimum amount of HD space needed for the smtp to
work?





It depends mostly on how busy is the server.





 











>>> Also, if the hard drive gets full will that stop the queue from
delivering the emails?





Of course. 










Sincerely, 
  
_   

  (, /  | 
/) 

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

2006-08-23 Thread Ramon Linan








I have done the telnet… I think I found
the problem, target smtp server was configured to only accept connection from
certain ip address, the source smtp server has 2 ip address, only one was in
the list…it seems to be working fine now…

 

Thanks all

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kitchens Arthur E
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
12:31 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 

have you looked at this to see if there's
any utility for you?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323350/

 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon
 Linan
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
11:35 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question

Thanks for your help.

 

I have found out more about my problem.

 

It looks like the target exchange SMTP
server is acting up, I can telnet sometimes and sometimes I cant. Also
sometimes I am able to telnet but it is really slow and sometimes it even
freezes on me.

 

I am still troubleshooting

 

Thanks

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
9:09 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 



The implications are further down the troubleshooting stack IMHO. 





 





If you cannot telnet to TCP 25 from the source Exchange server to the
target Exchange server, then you have a problem with connectivity.  You
must be able to do this. Both directions. Until you can successfully do this,
then there is nothing more you can hope to accomplish.  You can check DNS
as well, but you can also find out if basic connectivity is functioning using
the ip addresses.  If it's not, and it sounds like it's not, then you'll
need to address that first. 





 





Al

 





On 8/22/06, Ramon Linan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








Thank everyone for the response…I am going nuts here,
everything is a mess.

 

For some reason I cant telnet into domain1 email server from
domain2 , not only that , domain1 has 2 smtp server, one in the port 6000 and
the other in the port 25. Also I send an email to my personal account from
domain2 and I got something like this in the header: 

 

Mail from :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Received: from servername.domain3.com
([ip address] helo=domain3.com

 

So the
domain in the user's email address does not match the email server's
domain…I am wondering what are the implications of that…


 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Brandon Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
4:21 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] Exchange question









 

Obviously if the server is running out of space
make sure you remediate that first.  Second, I would recommend if ServerA
cannot send to ServerB, but the reverse is NOT true, then I would suggest
trying basic SMTP commands to ServerA from ServerB.  Check the
following: 

 

1) Is the server responding to SMTP commands?

2) Can the server accept and deliver the
mail item to intended recipient?  

3) Are the SMTP queues clear in ESM?

4) Is DNS responding correctly (A, PTR, SRV
records present?)?

 

Gut feeling...DNS.

 

That's my first shot!

 

Brandon

 







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



Have you
seen this already? 





http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821910/


 





On
8/22/06, Ramon
 Linan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 







Thanks very much, I think my second question was very easy J but wanted to confirm
it. 

 

The problem now is that we have 500 mg in the hard drive but
the smtp queue is still not delivering the emails from one server to the other.


 

We have 2 emails servers, one holds domain1.com and the other hold domain2.com. domain1.com can send and receive
fine but domain2 cant send to domain2, the emails are stuck in the queue with
that domain, how do I troubleshoot that?

 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
3:07 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question 







 





>>>minimum amount of HD space needed for the smtp to
work?





It depends mostly on how busy is the server.





 











>>> Also, if the hard drive gets full will that stop the queue from
delivering the emails?





Of course. 










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RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

2006-08-23 Thread Graham Turner
thanks both

What this is all about is putting in place the necessary operational practices 
to
ensure capability to restore in the event of scenario of restore of GPO.

>From both your notes it seems that with the backups of the GPO's themselves
(backupallGPOs.wsf) together with the output from ListSOMPolicyTree.wsf scripts 
I
have ALL necessary information for the return of the GPO (and the OU to which 
it is
linked) to prior state

Thanks

> Graham-
> The Inheritance and Delegation tabs (when you're sitting on a container object
like an OU in GPMC) provides the information indicated below. I guess I'm
wondering what you're missing from that? Its true that GPMC
> backup/restore does not restore links, link order or Enforced flags, but 
> there are
3rd party products that can do this, combining GPO restore with the AD parts of
that.
>
> Darren
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner Sent:
Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:05 AM
> To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)
>
> Dear all, as i recall / understand group policy links are stored as an 
> attribute
> (gplink) of the OU.
>
> It seems that GPMC is fine at summarising the links on a per OU basis as you 
> step
down the forest / domain structure.
>
> However it seems to lack a summary of OU / linked GPO(s) / link order / 
> security
filtering / delegation
>
> Would seem to be helpful in the context of a documentation of an Active 
> Directory,
especially given the scenario of restore of a GPO which does not look to restore
links, let alone the link order which would need to be restored somehow in the
event of GPO restore.
>
> Thanks, as always
>
> GT
>
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Re: [ActiveDir] Best Practice for replacing a DC

2006-08-23 Thread Al Mulnick
Somewhere in there you're going to want to update the schema (it's implied, but figured I'd spell it out since it's a newbie and all :)
 
You can read the steps for the install in the readme if I recall correctly.  
 
the one part that bothers me is that you mention it's a replacement.  Does the name/ip address have to stay the same?  That would be harder if it does.  
On 8/23/06, Mathieu CHATEAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Bob,-Buy the new server-Install W2K3 SP1 + Full update-dcpromo to the domain-Transfer all 5 FSMO roles to this new server
-Make this new server Global catalog-Checkup DNS, DHCP if applicable-Wait for replicationThen you should poweroff the old one to be sure everything is ok.If ok,-power on the old one-dcpromo the old one (and NO, It's not the last of the domain)
-power offYou should always have at least 2 DC and 2 global catalog.When all DC are W2K3, you can raise the forest and domain to nativeW2K3my 2 centsRegards,Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.comWednesday, August 23, 2006, 8:15:33 PM, you wrote:BA> Good Afternoon,BA> This is a rather newbie question.  We have an aging HP server
BA> that is our present DC it is running W2K. We would like to replace itBA> with a new box running Windows 2003 Std R2.BA> What is the best practice on bringing the new DC online andBA> decommissioning the old server.  The new server will replace the DC and
BA> another member server. We also have a windows 3003 Exchange Server and aBA> Windows 200 SQL Server machine that will be staying.  Eventually we willBA> upgrade the Windows 2000 box to 2003 giving us a full windows 2003
BA> domain.BA> ThanksBA> Bob AndersonBA> IT GuyBA> Kent Sporting Goods.BA> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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RE: [ActiveDir] Problem in AD

2006-08-23 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Title: [ActiveDir] Problem in AD






if it is single domain and 
not all DCs are a GC, make ALL DCs a GC
 
besides that also make sure a DNS server 
can be contacted
 
a bit more details please
 


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ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Problem in 
AD

Hi AllI have 3 domain controllers.  I transfer 
all the FSMO roles from DC03to DC02 after that I shutdown D03 & I 
restarted D02 & dC01 but afterthat I was not able to communicate with 
active directory then switchedon DC03 after that every thing is working 
fine. If somebody can tellme what could be the problem and after the in 
event viewer I amgetting an error Event id =1030 & 1058 
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Re: [ActiveDir] Best Practice for replacing a DC

2006-08-23 Thread Mathieu CHATEAU
Hello Bob,

-Buy the new server
-Install W2K3 SP1 + Full update
-dcpromo to the domain
-Transfer all 5 FSMO roles to this new server
-Make this new server Global catalog
-Checkup DNS, DHCP if applicable
-Wait for replication

Then you should poweroff the old one to be sure everything is ok.

If ok,
-power on the old one
-dcpromo the old one (and NO, It's not the last of the domain)
-power off


You should always have at least 2 DC and 2 global catalog.

When all DC are W2K3, you can raise the forest and domain to native
W2K3

 my 2 cents

Regards,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 8:15:33 PM, you wrote:

BA> Good Afternoon,
BA> This is a rather newbie question.  We have an aging HP server
BA> that is our present DC it is running W2K. We would like to replace it
BA> with a new box running Windows 2003 Std R2. 
BA> What is the best practice on bringing the new DC online and
BA> decommissioning the old server.  The new server will replace the DC and
BA> another member server. We also have a windows 3003 Exchange Server and a
BA> Windows 200 SQL Server machine that will be staying.  Eventually we will
BA> upgrade the Windows 2000 box to 2003 giving us a full windows 2003
BA> domain.


BA> Thanks
BA> Bob Anderson
BA> IT Guy
BA> Kent Sporting Goods. 
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[ActiveDir] Best Practice for replacing a DC

2006-08-23 Thread Bob Anderson
Good Afternoon,
This is a rather newbie question.  We have an aging HP server
that is our present DC it is running W2K. We would like to replace it
with a new box running Windows 2003 Std R2. 
What is the best practice on bringing the new DC online and
decommissioning the old server.  The new server will replace the DC and
another member server. We also have a windows 3003 Exchange Server and a
Windows 200 SQL Server machine that will be staying.  Eventually we will
upgrade the Windows 2000 box to 2003 giving us a full windows 2003
domain.


Thanks
Bob Anderson
IT Guy
Kent Sporting Goods. 
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Re: [ActiveDir] Problem in AD

2006-08-23 Thread Matheesha Weerasinghe
I'm afraid you need to give a little more detail than that. What do you mean not able to communicate with AD? 
 
M@ 
On 8/23/06, Pankaj Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi AllI have 3 domain controllers.  I transfer all the FSMO roles from DC03to DC02 after that I shutdown D03 & I restarted D02 & dC01 but after
that I was not able to communicate with active directory then switchedon DC03 after that every thing is working fine. If somebody can tellme what could be the problem and after the in event viewer I amgetting an error
Event id =1030 & 1058 source = usernv--RgdsPankaj vermaList info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList FAQ: 
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RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

2006-08-23 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Graham-
The Inheritance and Delegation tabs (when you're sitting on a container
object like an OU in GPMC) provides the information indicated below. I guess
I'm wondering what you're missing from that? Its true that GPMC
backup/restore does not restore links, link order or Enforced flags, but
there are 3rd party products that can do this, combining GPO restore with
the AD parts of that.

Darren 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:05 AM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

Dear all, as i recall / understand group policy links are stored as an
attribute
(gplink) of the OU.

It seems that GPMC is fine at summarising the links on a per OU basis as you
step down the forest / domain structure.

However it seems to lack a summary of OU / linked GPO(s) / link order /
security filtering / delegation

Would seem to be helpful in the context of a documentation of an Active
Directory, especially given the scenario of restore of a GPO which does not
look to restore links, let alone the link order which would need to be
restored somehow in the event of GPO restore.

Thanks, as always

GT

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RE: [ActiveDir] Problem in AD

2006-08-23 Thread Tim Foster


"not able to communicate with active directory " - can you give more details?
 
Was DC03 the only Global Catalog?  If yes, this could be the cause of your problem.
 
Tim



> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:07:50 +0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Subject: [ActiveDir] Problem in AD> > Hi All> > > I have 3 domain controllers.  I transfer all the FSMO roles from DC03> to DC02 after that I shutdown D03 & I restarted D02 & dC01 but after> that I was not able to communicate with active directory then switched> on DC03 after that every thing is working fine. If somebody can tell> me what could be the problem and after the in event viewer I am> getting an error> >  Event id =1030 & 1058 source = usernv> > > > -- > Rgds> Pankaj verma> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx


RE: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

2006-08-23 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
The GPMC scripts include the ListSOMPolicyTree.wsf script which at least
creates a useful text report of which GPOs are linked to which OUs (and
sites).  Combine this script with the BackupAllGPOs.wsf and the
GetReportsForAllGPOs.wsf to be well prepared to restore GPOs (and then
link them back to where they were linked prior to deletion).

/Guido

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 7:05 PM
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

Dear all, as i recall / understand group policy links are stored as an
attribute
(gplink) of the OU.

It seems that GPMC is fine at summarising the links on a per OU basis as
you step
down the forest / domain structure.

However it seems to lack a summary of OU / linked GPO(s) / link order /
security
filtering / delegation

Would seem to be helpful in the context of a documentation of an Active
Directory,
especially given the scenario of restore of a GPO which does not look to
restore
links, let alone the link order which would need to be restored somehow
in the event
of GPO restore.

Thanks, as always

GT

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[ActiveDir] Problem in AD

2006-08-23 Thread Pankaj Verma

Hi All


I have 3 domain controllers.  I transfer all the FSMO roles from DC03
to DC02 after that I shutdown D03 & I restarted D02 & dC01 but after
that I was not able to communicate with active directory then switched
on DC03 after that every thing is working fine. If somebody can tell
me what could be the problem and after the in event viewer I am
getting an error

Event id =1030 & 1058 source = usernv



--
Rgds
Pankaj verma
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[ActiveDir] management of group policy links (GPMC)

2006-08-23 Thread Graham Turner
Dear all, as i recall / understand group policy links are stored as an attribute
(gplink) of the OU.

It seems that GPMC is fine at summarising the links on a per OU basis as you 
step
down the forest / domain structure.

However it seems to lack a summary of OU / linked GPO(s) / link order / security
filtering / delegation

Would seem to be helpful in the context of a documentation of an Active 
Directory,
especially given the scenario of restore of a GPO which does not look to restore
links, let alone the link order which would need to be restored somehow in the 
event
of GPO restore.

Thanks, as always

GT

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RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

2006-08-23 Thread Kitchens Arthur E



have you looked at this to see if there's any utility 
for you?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323350/


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon 
LinanSent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:35 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 
question


Thanks for your 
help.
 
I have found out more 
about my problem.
 
It looks like the 
target exchange SMTP server is acting up, I can telnet sometimes and sometimes I 
cant. Also sometimes I am able to telnet but it is really slow and sometimes it 
even freezes on me.
 
I am still 
troubleshooting
 
Thanks
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Al 
MulnickSent: Wednesday, August 
23, 2006 9:09 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange 
question
 

The implications are further down the troubleshooting 
stack IMHO. 

 

If you cannot telnet to TCP 25 from the source Exchange 
server to the target Exchange server, then you have a problem with 
connectivity.  You must be able to do this. Both directions. Until you can 
successfully do this, then there is nothing more you can hope to 
accomplish.  You can check DNS as well, but you can also find out if basic 
connectivity is functioning using the ip addresses.  If it's not, and it 
sounds like it's not, then you'll need to address that first. 


 

Al 

On 8/22/06, Ramon 
Linan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 



Thank everyone for the 
response…I am going nuts here, everything is a 
mess.
 
For some reason I cant 
telnet into domain1 email server from domain2 , not only that , domain1 has 2 
smtp server, one in the port 6000 and the other in the port 25. Also I send an 
email to my personal account from domain2 and I got something like this in the 
header: 
 
Mail from : 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from servername.domain3.com 
([ip address] helo=domain3.com
 
So the 
domain in the user's email address does not match the email server's domain…I am 
wondering what are the implications of that… 
 
Thanks
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brandon PierceSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:21 
PM

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange 
question

 
Obviously if the 
server is running out of space make sure you remediate that first.  Second, 
I would recommend if ServerA cannot send to ServerB, but the reverse is NOT 
true, then I would suggest trying basic SMTP commands to ServerA from 
ServerB.  Check the following: 
 
1) Is the server 
responding to SMTP commands?
2) Can the 
server accept and deliver the mail item to intended recipient?  

3) Are the SMTP 
queues clear in ESM?
4) Is DNS responding 
correctly (A, PTR, SRV records present?)?
 
Gut 
feeling...DNS.
 
That's my first 
shot!
 
Brandon
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On 
Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:04 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange 
question

Have you 
seen this already? 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821910/ 
 

On 8/22/06, 
Ramon 
Linan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Thanks very much, I 
think my second question was very easy J but wanted to confirm 
it. 
 
The problem now is that 
we have 500 mg in the hard drive but the smtp queue is still not delivering the 
emails from one server to the other. 
 
We have 2 emails 
servers, one holds domain1.com 
and the other hold domain2.com. 
domain1.com can send and receive 
fine but domain2 cant send to domain2, the emails are stuck in the queue with 
that domain, how do I troubleshoot that?
 
Thanks
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:07 
PM

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 


Subject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] Exchange question 

 


>>>minimum 
amount of HD space needed for the smtp to 
work?

It depends mostly on 
how busy is the server.

 



>>> Also, if the hard 
drive gets full will that stop the queue from delivering the 
emails?

Of 
course. 


Sincerely, 
   
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/    |_/(__(_) // 
(_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_(_/ 
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Directory Serviceswww.akomolafe.com - we know IT -5.75, 
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From: 
Ramon LinanSent: Tue 8/22/2006 11:51 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Exchange 
question

Hi,
 
I have 2 emails server 
in 2 different locations.
All the sudden emails 
are not coming from one server to the other, I found out that smtp queue folder 
was in  a hard drive that was running out of space. 

 
Do you guys know what 
is the minimum amount of HD space needed for the smtp to 
work?
 
Also, if the hard drive 
gets full will that stop the queue from delivering the 
emai

RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

2006-08-23 Thread Alex Alborzfard








I would also make sure all Exchange
services are running and restart SMTP service.

Run MS SMTPdiag tool on both servers to
test SMTP connectivity between the servers.

If that doesn’t work, I would also
run MailFlow Troubleshooter from MS EXCH Troubleshooting Assistant.

 

In addition if all fails, I would run
offline defrag to reclaim hard drive space, after backing up your .edb files
and making sure deleted item retention is unchecked.

Then restart Exchange services

 



Alex











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
11:35 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 

Thanks for your help.

 

I have found out more about my problem.

 

It looks like the target exchange SMTP
server is acting up, I can telnet sometimes and sometimes I cant. Also
sometimes I am able to telnet but it is really slow and sometimes it even
freezes on me.

 

I am still troubleshooting

 

Thanks

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
9:09 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 



The implications are further down the troubleshooting stack IMHO. 





 





If you cannot telnet to TCP 25 from the source Exchange server to the
target Exchange server, then you have a problem with connectivity.  You
must be able to do this. Both directions. Until you can successfully do this,
then there is nothing more you can hope to accomplish.  You can check DNS
as well, but you can also find out if basic connectivity is functioning using
the ip addresses.  If it's not, and it sounds like it's not, then you'll
need to address that first. 





 





Al

 





On 8/22/06, Ramon Linan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








Thank everyone for the response…I am going nuts here,
everything is a mess.

 

For some reason I cant telnet into domain1 email server from
domain2 , not only that , domain1 has 2 smtp server, one in the port 6000 and
the other in the port 25. Also I send an email to my personal account from
domain2 and I got something like this in the header: 

 

Mail from :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Received: from servername.domain3.com
([ip address] helo=domain3.com

 

So the domain
in the user's email address does not match the email server's domain…I am
wondering what are the implications of that… 

 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Brandon Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
4:21 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] Exchange question









 

Obviously if the server is running out of space
make sure you remediate that first.  Second, I would recommend if ServerA
cannot send to ServerB, but the reverse is NOT true, then I would suggest
trying basic SMTP commands to ServerA from ServerB.  Check the
following: 

 

1) Is the server responding to SMTP commands?

2) Can the server accept and deliver the
mail item to intended recipient?  

3) Are the SMTP queues clear in ESM?

4) Is DNS responding correctly (A, PTR, SRV
records present?)?

 

Gut feeling...DNS.

 

That's my first shot!

 

Brandon

 







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



Have you
seen this already? 





http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821910/


 





On
8/22/06, Ramon
 Linan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 







Thanks very much, I think my second question was very easy J but wanted to confirm
it. 

 

The problem now is that we have 500 mg in the hard drive but the
smtp queue is still not delivering the emails from one server to the other. 

 

We have 2 emails servers, one holds domain1.com and the other hold domain2.com. domain1.com can send and receive
fine but domain2 cant send to domain2, the emails are stuck in the queue with
that domain, how do I troubleshoot that?

 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
3:07 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question 







 





>>>minimum amount of HD space needed for the smtp to
work?





It depends mostly on how busy is the server.





 











>>> Also, if the hard drive gets full will that stop the queue from
delivering the emails?





Of course. 










Sincerely, 
  
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/) /)   
    /---| (/_  __   ___// _  
//  _ 
 ) /    |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
(_/
/)  
  
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www.akomolafe.com -
we know IT 
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon 





 







Fro

RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Delegation & Management tools...

2006-08-23 Thread Darren Mar-Elia



Glad to help. I can't say enough how important it is 
to really have your requirements locked down before going into this process, and 
absolutely don't make a decision until you evaluate your short list of products 
in your own labs, without the vendor standing over your shoulder. Experience as 
both a customer and vendor has taught me that customers tend to think they need 
everything and vendors tend to tell you they can do everything. Somewhere in 
between is the truth. Evaluate a vendor's products not only their features (both 
stated and real) but also on the company's understanding of what they are 
selling. In other words, if you're buying AD products and the vendor's folks 
understand AD and its problems less than you do, then that is probably a 
good indicator of how they will support you down the line. 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Teo De Las 
HerasSent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:26 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Active Directory 
Delegation & Management tools...

Darren, 
Thanks for the insight!!  We're in the same boat as well and currently 
developing an RFI.  We're also considering ScriptLogic, Quest, NetIQ and 
NetPro.
 
Teo 
On 8/23/06, Darren 
Mar-Elia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: 
James-Its 
  been a while, but since it was my job to know this stuff, I can give you some 
  general comments here. First off, its important to know your requiirements 
  before asking the various vendors how they can help. What do you need to 
  manage AD here? One thing I can tell you about the Scriptlogic tool vs. the 
  tools from NetIQ and Quest is that Active Administrator attempts to combine a 
  number of different management functions into a single tool. For example, AA 
  includes AD delegation, Group Policy change control, AD restore and some 
  reporting into a single console. Compared to this, the DRA and ActiveRoles 
  products (there are two versions of ActiveRoles--I'm talking about the server 
  version here) are primarily geared towards controlled management of AD data 
  (although both include some resource management as well). In order to get all 
  of the basic functionality that AA provides from these other vendors you would 
  have to buy several of their other products for things like GP management, AD 
  restore, etc.. However, I think what you'll find is that the AA 
  functionality is pretty basic across each of the categories, so its important 
  to know what you need in each area. Also, from an architectural 
  perspective,  the Scriptlogic product is a client-based solution,and 
  the NetIQ and Quest products are client-server based. Given that, the 
  Scriptlogic product is more geared towards small environments and does an OK 
  job in each of the categories they provide solutions for. But the NetIQ and 
  Quest products are built with larger enterprises in mind and have features 
  that accomodate those kinds of environments better. I would also take 
  a look at what NetPro has to offer in these areas. I know they have some 
  offering around AD management, depending upon your requirements.Hope 
  that helps. Again, its really all about your requirements. If you have some 
  specific requirements that you would care to share here, I can probably give 
  you more pointed advice. Darren-Original 
  message-From: James Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
  Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:31:40 -0400To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
  [ActiveDir] Active Directory Delegation & Management 
  tools...>>   Hi 
  everyone,>>   Does anyone have any experience with a 
  product called Active Administrator from Scriptlogic? 
  >>   How does it compare with products such as NetIQ 
  DRA or Quests Active Roles?>>   What type of questions 
  should I be asking the vendor regarding this 
  product?>>   thanks> >   
  James>>> -> Do you 
  Yahoo!?>  Everyone is raving about the  all-new 
  Yahoo! Mail.List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList 
  FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspxList 
  archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx 
  


RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

2006-08-23 Thread Ramon Linan








Thanks for your help.

 

I have found out more about my problem.

 

It looks like the target exchange SMTP
server is acting up, I can telnet sometimes and sometimes I cant. Also
sometimes I am able to telnet but it is really slow and sometimes it even
freezes on me.

 

I am still troubleshooting

 

Thanks

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
9:09 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



 



The implications are further down the troubleshooting stack IMHO. 





 





If you cannot telnet to TCP 25 from the source Exchange server to the
target Exchange server, then you have a problem with connectivity.  You
must be able to do this. Both directions. Until you can successfully do this,
then there is nothing more you can hope to accomplish.  You can check DNS
as well, but you can also find out if basic connectivity is functioning using
the ip addresses.  If it's not, and it sounds like it's not, then you'll
need to address that first. 





 





Al

 





On 8/22/06, Ramon Linan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:








Thank everyone for the response…I am going nuts here,
everything is a mess.

 

For some reason I cant telnet into domain1 email server from
domain2 , not only that , domain1 has 2 smtp server, one in the port 6000 and
the other in the port 25. Also I send an email to my personal account from
domain2 and I got something like this in the header: 

 

Mail from :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Received: from servername.domain3.com
([ip address] helo=domain3.com

 

So the
domain in the user's email address does not match the email server's
domain…I am wondering what are the implications of that…


 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Brandon Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
4:21 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

Subject: RE:
[ActiveDir] Exchange question







 

Obviously if the server is running out of space
make sure you remediate that first.  Second, I would recommend if ServerA
cannot send to ServerB, but the reverse is NOT true, then I would suggest
trying basic SMTP commands to ServerA from ServerB.  Check the
following: 

 

1) Is the server responding to SMTP commands?

2) Can the server accept and deliver the
mail item to intended recipient?  

3) Are the SMTP queues clear in ESM?

4) Is DNS responding correctly (A, PTR, SRV
records present?)?

 

Gut feeling...DNS.

 

That's my first shot!

 

Brandon

 







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question



Have you
seen this already? 





http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821910/


 





On
8/22/06, Ramon
 Linan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 







Thanks very much, I think my second question was very easy J but wanted to confirm
it. 

 

The problem now is that we have 500 mg in the hard drive but
the smtp queue is still not delivering the emails from one server to the other.


 

We have 2 emails servers, one holds domain1.com and the other hold domain2.com. domain1.com can send and receive
fine but domain2 cant send to domain2, the emails are stuck in the queue with
that domain, how do I troubleshoot that?

 

Thanks

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
3:07 PM






To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question 







 





>>>minimum amount of HD space needed for the smtp to
work?





It depends mostly on how busy is the server.





 











>>> Also, if the hard drive gets full will that stop the queue from
delivering the emails?





Of course. 










Sincerely, 
  
_   

  (, /  | 
/)  
/) /)   
    /---| (/_  __   ___// _  
//  _ 
 ) /    |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
(_/
/)  
  
(/   
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.akomolafe.com -
we know IT 
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon 





 







From: Ramon Linan
Sent: Tue 8/22/2006 11:51 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange
question





Hi,

 

I have 2 emails server in 2 different locations.

All the sudden emails are not coming from one server to the
other, I found out that smtp queue folder was in  a hard drive that was
running out of space. 

 

Do you guys know what is the minimum amount of HD space
needed for the smtp to work?

 

Also, if the hard drive gets full will that stop the queue
from delivering the emails?

 

 

Thanks

 

Rezuma











 











 








Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Process for requesting, authorizing and creating shares?

2006-08-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ai Chung,

That's an excellent thought - money certainly does talk, and I can well
imagine that PMs will be anxious to stop the bleeding, as it were.  :-)

Thanks!

--
Idan

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Chong Ai Chung wrote:


Answer for where to to put the share will normally decided by which server
is nearer to the user who need to access to it.

"How do you tell that the project has wound down, and it's a good time to
recover that disk space for new work?"
I remember there is one large organisation have a system to charge
respective project cost center for the amount of disk space
that user/department request for. When the PM know that they will be charge
for the amount that they request for, they will tend to avoid to request for
the quota that they will never reach. The PM will also be the one who will
automatically come to tell File Share administrator to reclaim the disk
space when it's no longer needed to avoid unnecessary cost from charge to
their cost center.

Regards,

Ai Chung

On 8/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks, Joe.

I tend to agree regarding standard names, no random driver letters,
etc. (which you could probably already infer from my initial e-mail/post).

However, that doesn't really answer the question of what the process
should look like when, for example, creating a new PROJ-related share
and/or folder?

Example - a new, large project starts up, and a PM asks to allocate a
50GB share somewhere.  How do you figure out where to put it?  What if
there is no available server with adequate free space?  How do you tell
that the project has wound down, and it's a good time to recover that disk
space for new work?

What happened in this scenario when you worked at that Fortune-5 where
you used to (still do?) work?

Cheers,

-- Idan

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:00:58 -0400
From: joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Process for requesting,
authorizing and creating shares?
Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 21:37:10 -0600 (MDT)
Resent-From: Idan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Resent-To: Idan Shoham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Resent-Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Process for requesting, authorizing
and
creating shares?

In general I think it is better for larger orgs to have a very locked down
strong share policy. Even down to specifying specific standard share
names,
permissions (like auth users FC and then locking with NTFS unless there
will
be no change access then R). For instance names like APPS, PROJ, DATA,
BINS,
etc. One large multinational you are familiar with has shares for users as
username$, then shared file served applications or application
installation
packages are located in APPS, and all group shared data goes into a share
called PROJ and permissioning is handled at the folder level. The software
delivery system uses another hidden share but it is a single name across
the
entire enterprise.  The only thing that varies are the servers. This makes
life easier for the users and the administrators. People aren't browsing
to
find things and/or trying to recall what the sharename was... I like
having
as few shares as possible because I have seen too many cases of alphabet
soup with connected drive letters where users get to the point that they
only know what drive letters they had, not what they were connected to. I
recall in a job back in the mid-90's where any given user of about 2000 at
the local site was connected to about 10-12 shares but what shares they
were
connected to depended on what part of the building they were in and what
department they were in. We had to carry around a pocket guide to the
areas
so when someone said I need my I: drive back you knew exactly what share
to
connect for them.

If someone would rather have an ad hoc system, I would say follow any
normal
provisioning process with workflow. I wouldn't want to have to come in and
clean that up in 5 years though once someone finally realizes how
ridiculous
it is because everyone is running out of drive letters to use.

  joe


--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Process for requesting, authorizing and creating
shares?

Hi folks,

Slightly off-topic here -- i.e,. related to managing Windows environments
generally, rather than just Active Directory.

I'm wondering whether any of you have seen good business processes for
managing share creation (and for that matter, deletion)?

We are working with a large multi-national where the current process by
which business users request new shares (i.e., network-attached, shared,
access-controlled disk space), and by which those requests are approved
and implemented, is pretty weak.

We are hoping to help 

RE: [ActiveDir] (OT) Exchange Mail Delivery Delays

2006-08-23 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Recipients include Universal groups? If so check access to a global
catalog from the exchange server. Avoid Universal groups if possible on
distribution lists.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Rutherford
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:58 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] (OT) Exchange Mail Delivery Delays
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Sorry for the OT...
> 
> I've got an Exch2003 server, SP2 with the following issue :-
> 
> An External mail user sends a mail to many internal recipients, some
> users receive immediately. The remaining users receive the mail hours
> later, sometime 12 hours+ later.
> 
> Before I up all the logging and spend hours.. has anyone see this and
> resolved?
> 
> I've attached an example message tracking log.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rob
> 
> Robert Rutherford
> QuoStar Solutions Limited
> 
> T:+44 (0) 8456 440 331
> F:+44 (0) 8456 440 332
> M:+44 (0) 7974 249 494
> E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> W:www.quostar.com
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

2006-08-23 Thread Al Mulnick
The implications are further down the troubleshooting stack IMHO. 
 
If you cannot telnet to TCP 25 from the source Exchange server to the target Exchange server, then you have a problem with connectivity.  You must be able to do this. Both directions. Until you can successfully do this, then there is nothing more you can hope to accomplish.  You can check DNS as well, but you can also find out if basic connectivity is functioning using the ip addresses.  If it's not, and it sounds like it's not, then you'll need to address that first. 

 
Al 
On 8/22/06, Ramon Linan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Thank everyone for the response…I am going nuts here, everything is a mess.
 
For some reason I cant telnet into domain1 email server from domain2 , not only that , domain1 has 2 smtp server, one in the port 6000 and the other in the port 25. Also I send an email to my personal account from domain2 and I got something like this in the header:

 
Mail from :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from 
servername.domain3.com ([ip address] helo=domain3.com
 
So the domain in the user's email address does not match the email server's domain…I am wondering what are the implications of that…

 
Thanks
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Brandon PierceSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question



 
Obviously if the server is running out of space make sure you remediate that first.  Second, I would recommend if ServerA cannot send to ServerB, but the reverse is NOT true, then I would suggest trying basic SMTP commands to ServerA from ServerB.  Check the following:

 
1) Is the server responding to SMTP commands?
2) Can the server accept and deliver the mail item to intended recipient?  
3) Are the SMTP queues clear in ESM?
4) Is DNS responding correctly (A, PTR, SRV records present?)?
 
Gut feeling...DNS.
 
That's my first shot!
 
Brandon
 



From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject:
 Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

Have you seen this already? 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821910/
 

On 8/22/06, Ramon Linan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Thanks very much, I think my second question was very easy 
J but wanted to confirm it.
 
 
The problem now is that we have 500 mg in the hard drive but the smtp queue is still not delivering the emails from one server to the other. 

 
We have 2 emails servers, one holds 
domain1.com and the other hold domain2.com. 
domain1.com can send and receive fine but domain2 cant send to domain2, the emails are stuck in the queue with that domain, how do I troubleshoot that?
 
Thanks
 




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:07 PM

To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 

Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange question 

 


>>>minimum amount of HD space needed for the smtp to work?

It depends mostly on how busy is the server.

 



>>>
 Also, if the hard drive gets full will that stop the queue from delivering the emails?

Of course.
 

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From:
 Ramon LinanSent: Tue 8/22/2006 11:51 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Exchange question

Hi,
 
I have 2 emails server in 2 different locations.
All the sudden emails are not coming from one server to the other, I found out that smtp queue folder was in  a hard drive that was running out of space. 

 
Do you guys know what is the minimum amount of HD space needed for the smtp to work?
 
Also, if the hard drive gets full will that stop the queue from delivering the emails?
 
 
Thanks
 
Rezuma
 



Re: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Delegation & Management tools...

2006-08-23 Thread Teo De Las Heras
Darren, 
Thanks for the insight!!  We're in the same boat as well and currently developing an RFI.  We're also considering ScriptLogic, Quest, NetIQ and NetPro.
 
Teo 
On 8/23/06, Darren Mar-Elia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
James-Its been a while, but since it was my job to know this stuff, I can give you some general comments here. First off, its important to know your requiirements before asking the various vendors how they can help. What do you need to manage AD here? One thing I can tell you about the Scriptlogic tool vs. the tools from NetIQ and Quest is that Active Administrator attempts to combine a number of different management functions into a single tool. For example, AA includes AD delegation, Group Policy change control, AD restore and some reporting into a single console. Compared to this, the DRA and ActiveRoles products (there are two versions of ActiveRoles--I'm talking about the server version here) are primarily geared towards controlled management of AD data (although both include some resource management as well). In order to get all of the basic functionality that AA provides from these other vendors you would have to buy several of their other products for things like GP management, AD restore, etc.. However, I think what you'll find
is that the AA functionality is pretty basic across each of the categories, so its important to know what you need in each area. Also, from an architectural perspective,  the Scriptlogic product is a client-based solution,and the NetIQ and Quest products are client-server based. Given that, the Scriptlogic product is more geared towards small environments and does an OK job in each of the categories they provide solutions for. But the NetIQ and Quest products are built with larger enterprises in mind and have features that accomodate those kinds of environments better.
I would also take a look at what NetPro has to offer in these areas. I know they have some offering around AD management, depending upon your requirements.Hope that helps. Again, its really all about your requirements. If you have some specific requirements that you would care to share here, I can probably give you more pointed advice.
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ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Delegation & Management tools...>>   Hi everyone,>>   Does anyone have any experience with a product called Active Administrator from Scriptlogic?
>>   How does it compare with products such as NetIQ DRA or Quests Active Roles?>>   What type of questions should I be asking the vendor regarding this product?>>   thanks>
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Re: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Delegation & Management tools...

2006-08-23 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
James-
Its been a while, but since it was my job to know this stuff, I can give you 
some general comments here. First off, its important to know your requiirements 
before asking the various vendors how they can help. What do you need to manage 
AD here? One thing I can tell you about the Scriptlogic tool vs. the tools from 
NetIQ and Quest is that Active Administrator attempts to combine a number of 
different management functions into a single tool. For example, AA includes AD 
delegation, Group Policy change control, AD restore and some reporting into a 
single console. Compared to this, the DRA and ActiveRoles products (there are 
two versions of ActiveRoles--I'm talking about the server version here) are 
primarily geared towards controlled management of AD data (although both 
include some resource management as well). In order to get all of the basic 
functionality that AA provides from these other vendors you would have to buy 
several of their other products for things like GP management, AD restore, 
etc.. However, I think what you'll find 
is that the AA functionality is pretty basic across each of the categories, so 
its important to know what you need in each area. Also, from an architectural 
perspective,  the Scriptlogic product is a client-based solution,and the NetIQ 
and Quest products are client-server based. Given that, the Scriptlogic product 
is more geared towards small environments and does an OK job in each of the 
categories they provide solutions for. But the NetIQ and Quest products are 
built with larger enterprises in mind and have features that accomodate those 
kinds of environments better.

I would also take a look at what NetPro has to offer in these areas. I know 
they have some offering around AD management, depending upon your requirements.

Hope that helps. Again, its really all about your requirements. If you have 
some specific requirements that you would care to share here, I can probably 
give you more pointed advice.

Darren 



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From: James Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 05:31:40 -0400
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory Delegation & Management tools...

>  
>   Hi everyone,
>
>   Does anyone have any experience with a product called Active Administrator 
> from Scriptlogic?
>
>   How does it compare with products such as NetIQ DRA or Quests Active Roles?
>
>   What type of questions should I be asking the vendor regarding this 
> product? 
>
>   thanks
>
>   James
> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP queries from the outside --> problem solved

2006-08-23 Thread Thommes, Michael M.








Thanks to all who responded!  The
problem was solved by installing our local root CA cert on the “outside”
computer since we are “rolling our own” and not using one of the
well known CAs (Trusted Root Certification Authorities).

 

Mike Thommes

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes,
 Michael M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
9:36 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure
LDAP queries from the outside



 

Hi Robert,

    Yes, the command is *exactly* the same.  We are thinking
that our CRL location is not available outside of the firewall.  We
generate our own certificates; we don’t use a “well known”
provider.

 

Mike Thommes

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Williams, Robert
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
9:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure
LDAP queries from the outside



 

Hey Mike,

 

When you say “It works fine behind
our firewall”, are you meaning that the *exact same* command line works and you get the object
returned?

 

I tried using adfind to connect to my test
DC using port 636 and got the exact same error…but I don’t have a
cert installed on my DC so I’d expect mine not to work.



Robert
Williams 







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes,
 Michael M.
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
6:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Secure LDAP
queries from the outside



 

Hi,

   We are trying to set up secure LDAP queries
from the outside to AD for pulling email addresses but are running into an
issue.  Port 636 has been opened up to our DCs but we get a 0x51 error
like the one shown below in this example of using “adfind”:

 

adfind -h dc1.abc.com:636 -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -up * 
-default -nodn -f sn=thommes extensionAttribute2

 

AdFind V01.26.00cpp Joe Richards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) February
2005

 

LDAP_BIND: [rhino221.anl.gov] Error 0x51 (81) - Server Down

Terminating program.

 

(extensionAttribute2 is used for email address)

 

Portqry shows that the DC is listening on port 636.
 Using “ldp”, the bind operation seems to want to default to
port 389 (which is not open).

 

It works fine behind our firewall.  Is there some other
port that needs to be open (besides 389)?  Or maybe some security feature
(we are running w2k3/sp1 on our DCs) that is getting in the way?  Any help
is appreciated!

 

TIA,

Mike Thommes

 

 



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[ActiveDir] Active Directory Delegation & Management tools...

2006-08-23 Thread James Carter
   Hi everyone,     Does anyone have any experience with a product called Active Administrator from Scriptlogic?     How does it compare with products such as NetIQ DRA or Quests Active Roles?     What type of questions should I be asking the vendor regarding this product?      thanks     James 
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