RE: [ActiveDir] Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-041 Vulnerability in DNS Resolution Could Allow Remote Code Execution

2006-08-29 Thread Alex Alborzfard
Oddly enough today we got hit by a virus(worm actually) that had
exploited
MS-06-040 vulnerability. Our AV (Trend) didn't catch it in time. 
Though I brought it up to my boss & fellow Admins' attention
more than 2 weeks ago, they decided to ignore it! 
We ended up going around with the helpdesk team to clean the mess up. 
I'm sure it'll be swept under the rug! 

Alex

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:05 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-041
Vulnerability in DNS Resolution Could Allow Remote Code Execution

..and plant that flag and get it raised.

You cannot protect what is not managed.

Alex Alborzfard wrote:
> Yes I'm aware of both tools. WSUS requires dedicated server and
> configuration.
> MBSA doesn't list installed patches, date of application, versions,
etc.
> It basically tells you what is missing.
> I was talking about a tool that I can run from my PC, which I have
used
> in the past. I think you could also remove the patch or roll it back
> right from the interface. For some reason I thought it was Windows
> Defender, but I installed it and it doesn't have that capability.
>
> No I'm not managing patching in our networks...well not yet anyway!
> I'm just trying to raise the flags, so to speak.
>
> Alex
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan
Bradley,
> CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:53 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-041
> Vulnerability in DNS Resolution Could Allow Remote Code Execution
>
> E-Bitz - SBS MVP the Official Blog of the SBS "Diva" : The threats and

> risk level today:
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2006/08/10/107303.aspx
>
>
> Alun's "Holy Crap" post:
> Tales from the Crypto : How do I rate today's patches?:
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/alunj/archive/2006/08/08/107097.aspx
>
>
> MBSA  -http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/tools/mbsahome.mspx
>
> WSUS - 
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/updateservices/default.mspx
>
> You are managing patching in your networks now right?
>
> Alex Alborzfard wrote:
>   
>> Thanks John this is really helpful, though only for this
>> 
> vulnerability.
>   
>> Alex
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Singler
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:22 AM
>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-041
>> Vulnerability in DNS Resolution Could Allow Remote Code Execution
>>
>> For MS06-040 you can use the tool from eeye.com to ID vulnerable
>> machines:
>>
>> http://www.eeye.com/html/resources/downloads/audits/NetApi.html
>>
>> Alex Alborzfard wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> What about MS06-040? I've heard it's a nasty one like blaster.
>>> DHS has already issued a recommendation to apply this patch.
>>>
>>> I remember using a utility tool that would list all applied patches
>>>   
> on
>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> a
>>   
>> 
>>> Windows box with all kind of information.
>>> Anyone has ever used or knows anything about it?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan
>>> 
>>>   
>> Bradley,
>>   
>> 
>>> CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:55 PM
>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>> Subject: [ActiveDir] Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-041
>>> 
>>>   
>> Vulnerability
>>   
>> 
>>> in DNS Resolution Could Allow Remote Code Execution
>>>
>>> One of 12 today...but since it's DNS related
>>>
>>> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-041 Vulnerability in DNS Resolution

>>> Could Allow Remote Code Execution (920683):
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-041.mspx
>>>
>>> For an attack to be successful the attacker would either have to be
>>>   
> on
>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> a
>>   
>> 
>>> subnet between the host and the DNS server or force the target host
>>>   
> to
>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> make a DNS request to receive a specially crafted record response
>>>   
> from
>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> an attacking server.
>>>
>>> (and Brett...just a FYI... in my twig forest... any attacker that
>>>   
> ends
>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> up on a subnet between a host and my DNS server [aka the Kitchen
sink
>>>   
>
>   
>>> service server] ... that attacker is dead meat and has a 2x4 aimed
>>>   
> his
>   
>>> 
>>>   
>>   
>> 
>>> way... one advantage of being little)
>>>
>>> Your patch folks may be calling up you AD guys for testing passes.
>>>
>>> Workarounds:
>>>
>>> *Block DNS related records at network gateways*
>>>

Re[2]: [ActiveDir] Add folder with quota to existing mailboxes - via scripting or tool

2006-08-29 Thread Mathieu CHATEAU

this script goes through outlook.
Each user need to fire this script (or fire it via logon script).

for the Root Folder, change:
set inbox = olApp.GetNamespace("MAPI").getDefaultFolder(6)

to

set inbox = olApp.GetNamespace("MAPI").Folder("Personal Folder")
(should do the trick but i didn't test it yet)



Regards,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

Monday, August 28, 2006, 11:00:14 AM, you wrote:

vwpn> Thanks Brian and Mathieu,

vwpn> I will tell a little bit more about the background of this. The 
vwpn> customer has asked for a folder called "private" to be created in the 
vwpn> root of every users mailbox and if possible set a quota to this folder.

vwpn> After this has been done, the customer wants to instruct his users to 
vwpn> use only this folder only as their personal/private email folder and 
vwpn> move everything that the users sees as being private, to the private 
vwpn> folder. From that moment on, all other folders in the users mailboxes 
vwpn> are no longer considered as private/personal.

vwpn> I do have some additional questions:

vwpn> - how would the script look if the requirement would be to create the 
vwpn> folder in the root.

vwpn> - The way the script is set up now, do I have to set up which users 
vwpn> this script will apply to, I mean will it now apply to all users in the
vwpn> entire domain which are mailbox enabled?

vwpn> - Is there any way that I can specify which users this script has to be
vwpn> applied to, I mean can I run it against all mailbox enabled users in a
vwpn> specific OU?





vwpn> 
vwpn> ---
vwpn> Re[2]: [ActiveDir] Add folder with quota to existing mailboxes - via 
vwpn> scripting or tool
vwpn> From: Mathieu CHATEAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
vwpn> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:24:47 +0200 

vwpn> 
vwpn> 

vwpn> Hello Victor,

vwpn> If the folder already exist, it will simply do nothing, except going 
vwpn> into errors..

vwpn> need to add a on error resume next or test if the folder exist before.

vwpn> will create  in the inbox, as a subfolder

vwpn> I don't see your goal with this folder...except if you turn special 
vwpn> rights on it.

vwpn> may ask them to put it [private] in the subject instead (it will work 
vwpn> for the sent folders)

vwpn> Regards,

vwpn> Mathieu CHATEAU

vwpn> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com




vwpn> Sunday, August 27, 2006, 10:26:59 PM, you wrote:


vwpn> Thanks Mathieu, nice.

vwpn> Does this create a folder in the root of the  mailbox?
vwpn>  
vwpn> Access all mailboxes you say, that sounds logical. I know  that
vwpn> domain admins indeed dont actually have the full mailbox access (they 
vwpn> have  some denies).

vwpn> What if a user already has the folder, does this script  take this into
vwpn> account?

vwpn> Again thanks.

vwpn> Victor










vwpn> From: Mathieu CHATEAU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

vwpn> Sent: zondag 27 augustus 2006 22:04
vwpn> To: Victor  W.

vwpn> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

vwpn> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir]  Add folder with quota to existing
vwpn> mailboxes - via scripting or  tool


vwpn> Hello Victor,

vwpn> you will at least need an account that can access all mailboxes (not a
vwpn> domain  admins one)

vwpn> (or give a script to everyone that they will execute)

vwpn> To my knowledge, quota is mailbox based. You may set up a special 
vwpn> retention  on this folder.


vwpn> sample _vbscript_ to create the private folder

vwpn> set olApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application") 
vwpn> set inbox = olApp.GetNamespace("MAPI").getDefaultFolder(6) 
vwpn> set temp5 = inbox.folders.add("Private",6) 

vwpn> hope it helps,

vwpn> Regards,
vwpn>  

vwpn> Mathieu CHATEAU



vwpn> http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com








vwpn> Sunday, August 27, 2006, 8:57:03 PM, you wrote:


vwpn> Does anybody know what is the 'best' way to add   

vwpn> automatically a folder to existing mailboxes and set a quota on that 
vwpn> same folder?

vwpn> We would like all our users to get a folder called   

vwpn> "private" added to the root of their mailbox and if possible, a quota 
vwpn> to be set to that folder.

vwpn> Can this be done by scripting easily or is there perhaps

vwpn> even a tool which is capable of doing this?

vwpn> This also counts for new, still to be created users. I mean, every user
vwpn> that will be created will have to have that certain folder added to his
vwpn> or her mailbox.

vwpn> Offcourse this could be done by running the script a   
vwpn> couple of times a day, checking if the folder exists allready and

vwpn> if not, adding it. Or perhaps it can even by realised the

vwpn> moment a user has been created.
vwpn>   
vwpn> Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
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Re[2]: [ActiveDir] Add folder with quota to existing mailboxes - via scripting or tool

2006-08-29 Thread Mathieu CHATEAU
Hello joe,

 Adding the vbscript to the logon script would do the trick.

 For the rest, it also depends where you live. In France, you can't
 just open the employees mailboxes. Our laws protect individual's
 privacy.

 Companies sometimes prefers uses using the company mailboxes for
 personal use than having users opening mails on webmail, which may
 contain virus & co (going through smtp gateway allow more protection
 against virus, instead of just having the workstation antivirus as
 the only shield).


Regards,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

Monday, August 28, 2006, 3:45:31 PM, you wrote:

j> This sounds kooky. What does the customer intend to do with the rest of the
j> mailbox or how do they intend to specially treat the private folder? What
j> about the calendar and tasks? Private or not? 

j> Currently there really isn't a good technical solution to this. About the
j> best is that you tack onto the end of the script you use to mailbox enable
j> users and it logs into the mailbox so it gets instantiated and then creates
j> the folder; you can't specify Exchange to create a folder once the mailbox
j> is instantiated later. As Brian indicated, you also can't set a quota on the
j> folder. 

j> Now with the above you still have the issue of people not using your script
j> to mailbox enable users (or say doing a mailbox reconnect) so at some point
j> you would have to be scanning mailboxes looking for that folder and adding
j> it if missing. Depending on the number of mailboxes this could be something
j> that has to be constantly running because it can take a long time to log in
j> and check all of those mailboxes. Personally I hate writing scripts that
j> loop through all mailboxes like that as they always seem to get screwed up
j> after a bit. The whole programmatic aspect of Exchange mailboxes and logging
j> into them, etc is flakey and slow, IMO. 

j> Probably the better solution is just to tell people, hi, if you get private
j> or personal email, create a folder called private and put it in there. The
j> rest of your mailbox is not considered private and we will be xxx. Where
j> the xx is whatever it is the customer intends to do with the rest of the
j> mailbox or how they expect to treat the private folder differently from the
j> rest of the mailbox. 

j> Personally again, I say it is all kooky. IMO, when you really get down to
j> it, none of a business mailbox is private/personal. The company can go into
j> any part of any mailbox any time they want. They have legal obligations to
j> do so in some cases and in other cases it could become necessary for
j> troubleshooting. If the customer thinks administrators will just avoid those
j> folders when working on mailboxes they are almost certainly wrong, if
j> anything, if you have an admin who does that kind of perusing, that would be
j> the first place they would go hunting in. 


j> --
j> O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
j> http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
j>  

j> -Original Message-
j> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
j> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
j> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 5:00 AM
j> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
j> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Add folder with quota to existing mailboxes - via
j> scripting or tool

j> Thanks Brian and Mathieu,

j> I will tell a little bit more about the background of this. The 
j> customer has asked for a folder called "private" to be created in the 
j> root of every users mailbox and if possible set a quota to this folder.

j> After this has been done, the customer wants to instruct his users to 
j> use only this folder only as their personal/private email folder and 
j> move everything that the users sees as being private, to the private 
j> folder. From that moment on, all other folders in the users mailboxes 
j> are no longer considered as private/personal.

j> I do have some additional questions:

j> - how would the script look if the requirement would be to create the 
j> folder in the root.

j> - The way the script is set up now, do I have to set up which users 
j> this script will apply to, I mean will it now apply to all users in the
j> entire domain which are mailbox enabled?

j> - Is there any way that I can specify which users this script has to be
j> applied to, I mean can I run it against all mailbox enabled users in a
j> specific OU?





j> 
j> ---
j> Re[2]: [ActiveDir] Add folder with quota to existing mailboxes - via 
j> scripting or tool
j> From: Mathieu CHATEAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
j> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:24:47 +0200 

j> 
j> 

j> Hello Victor,

j> If the folder already exist, it will simply do nothing, except going 
j> into errors..

j> need to add a on error resume next or test if the folder exist before.

j> will create  in the inbox, as a subfolder

j> I don't 

Re: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

2006-08-29 Thread Mathieu CHATEAU
Hello Za,

try using autlogon.exe from sysinternals.

Works in our case.


Regards,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com

Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 2:16:44 PM, you wrote:

ZV> Domain: Windows 2003
ZV> Clients: Xp w/sp2

ZV> Problem: The autologon registry hack on 3 of my lab machines will not 
ZV> stay permanent. All machines restart each morning at 2:00 AM and they 
ZV> automatically  log in to the domain. In the morning if I re-apply the 
ZV> auto logon registry hack the machines work fine the rest of the day, no
ZV> matter how many reboots.Comments? Suggestions?

ZV> Thanks,
ZV> Z.V.
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ZV> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
ZV> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx

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[ActiveDir] [OT] DEC 2007

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Parris
I see the website has gone live and it's in Red Rock, Nevada - at another hotel 
that's part of the same chain as last years conference.

April 22nd - April 25th 

www.directoryexpertsconference.com 

I can feel the pain already...

Mark
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Re: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

2006-08-29 Thread Mark Parris
Have had this problem - was due to an application that provided a formated 
legal disclaimer - ran out side of policy and kept updating the legal 
disclaimer at night and stopping the autologon from working.

Doubt yours is the same issue but you never know.

Mark
-Original Message-
From: Za Vue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:16:44 
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

Domain: Windows 2003
Clients: Xp w/sp2

Problem: The autologon registry hack on 3 of my lab machines will not 
stay permanent. All machines restart each morning at 2:00 AM and they 
automatically  log in to the domain. In the morning if I re-apply the 
auto logon registry hack the machines work fine the rest of the day, no 
matter how many reboots.Comments? Suggestions?

Thanks,
Z.V.
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Re: [ActiveDir] Seperate forest migration notes

2006-08-29 Thread Al Mulnick
Overall, that's pretty good for the plan. If you haven't already seen it, there's a migration cookbook available on Microsoft's website. Some things to pay attention to: name resolution for the clients - it's important :)  Trust configurations - if a recent enough version, there are some security components that you'll want to be aware of - specifically quarrantine and sidfiltering. Be sure those are configured appropriately for your environment. 

 
Order of migration: 
Be sure to understand the impacts of the order that you migrate the users. I don't know enough about the versions of Exchange, but it would make sense to move the users after or before you move the mailboxes.  All the users or all the mailboxes pretty much. If you try to do both at the same time, it can be difficult to troubleshoot and you'll slow your migration down trying to chase the issues. 

 
That leads to expectations: 
Be sure that nobody expects to stay in the partially-migrated state for very long while you chase down integration issues.  Once you start, be prepared to sprint to the finish line.  Co-existence sucks.  No doubts about that. If you try to continue on with migration and coexistence and new projects and...etc you'll be torn to the winds.  Your best bet is to continue to push regardless of the issues once you begin (post pilot of course). 

 
Did I mention name resolution? That's important, so I don't mind mentioning it twice. 
 
Planning is your friend when it comes to migrations.  
 
I imagine that Guido might chime in here.  I hear he's done this once or twice. :) 
On 8/29/06, Danny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

A company was acquired. Seperate 2000/2003 forest, now a two-way trust exists, but we are looking at migrating their users, mailboxes, computers, and servers into our forest.Working on a plan to test moving a user, mailbox, computer, and server into our forest. Plan: 
Select test users and computersInstall ADMTTest user migration via ADMTTest computer migration via RDP manaully or script (must locate)Test mailbox migration via Exchange Migration WizardLogin as user and test services/access 
Am I missing anything? Any tips?Thanks,...D 
-- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer 


Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Williams



There's a rather large error in my 
previous message:

  ...get a list of all the DNS servers 
  for that domain.  For example, if you are using AD-Integrated DNS, you 
  will get a list of any DCs that are also DNS servers.  Basically, that 
  command returns the (Same as parent) records for the 
domain.
 
That should read:

  ...get a list of all DCs for that 
  domain.  Basically, that command returns the (Same as parent) records for 
  the domain, which are host (A) records for the domain 
  [name].
 
Apologies all.  I don't know what I 
was thinking about when composing that mail.  I'll be sure to drink my 
first coffee of the day _before_ replying in the future!  
 
 
--Paul
 
(No I didn't spot the error; I was 
notified offline ;-)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Paul Williams 
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
  
  If you do NSLOOKUP DOMAIN-NAME.COM then 
  you will get a list of all the DNS servers for that domain.  For example, 
  if you are using AD-Integrated DNS, you will get a list of any DCs that are 
  also DNS servers.  Basically, that command returns the (Same as parent) 
  records for the domain.
   
  If you want to pull all DCs in the 
  domain, you need to run something like this:
   
  nslookup -type=srv 
  _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain-name.com
   
   
  If you run the above command and get 
  computer accounts back, see kb825675 as referenced by Steve.  I wasn't 
  aware that that bug also registered A records for the domain name, but it 
  might...
   
  If you're new to NSLOOKUP, consider what 
  information you want.  There's a bunch of different types of DNS record 
  that might be of interest (A, CNAME, PTR, SRV, MX).  When troubleshooting 
  AD, the main ones to look for are A and SRV (there's also an instance where 
  you need to check the CNAME record too).  Remember that simply pinging a 
  DC doesn't mean that the necessary SRV records are in place.  I 
  personally always advise people to use a combination of NSLOOKUP and NLTEST to 
  troubleshoot DNS and the locator process.  Use NSLOOKUP to see if the 
  records that you expect are there, and NLTEST to make the DsGetDC and 
  DsGetSite calls.
   
   
  --Paul
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Ramon 
Linan 
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 

Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:14 
PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
beginer question


Hi 
Everyone,
 
When I do a 
nslookup domain.com, being domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A 
list of the dns server in my domain? A list of the DC? 

 
The fact is that I 
am doing nslookup and I am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s 
computer
 
Thanks


Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Williams



If you don't have a host record (A) for 
the hostname "sami", then you should delete the SRV record [1].  If that 
isn't a DC, look at the KB mentioned by Steve and I.  I've seen a bunch of 
XP workstations registering in DNS in the past.
 
 
--Paul
 
[1] Assuming of course that you don't have 
a DDNS issue, i.e. you don't have a record in DNS but you do have a server with 
that name.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ramon Linan 
  
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:06 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
  
  
  I did the nslookup 
  -type=srv _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.com and I 
  got
   
  _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.com    
  SRV service location:
    
  priority   = 0
    
  weight = 
  100
    
  port   = 
  389
    
  svr hostname   = sami.domain.com
   
   
  I can’t find that 
  machine anywhere, not in the AD or dns server!!!
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Kevin 
  BrunsonSent: Tuesday, August 
  29, 2006 10:15 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
   
  I think the key to 
  this question is a very simple troubleshooting step.  Go into DNS and 
  look at the (same as parent folder) records.  Delete the ones that aren’t 
  currently DNS servers.  If you are using AD integrated DNS, then this 
  should be any domain controllers that you want clients to get DNS from. 
   Give it a day or two and see if the bad ones come back.  If they 
  don’t then you can assume this was an obsolete entry.  If they do then 
  you can start looking for why.  
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Paul 
  WilliamsSent: Tuesday, 
  August 29, 2006 4:43 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
   
  
  If you do 
  NSLOOKUP DOMAIN-NAME.COM then you will get a list of all the DNS servers for 
  that domain.  For example, if you are using AD-Integrated DNS, you will 
  get a list of any DCs that are also DNS servers.  Basically, that command 
  returns the (Same as parent) records for the 
  domain.
  
   
  
  If you want to 
  pull all DCs in the domain, you need to run something like 
  this:
  
   
  
  nslookup 
  -type=srv 
  _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain-name.com
  
   
  
   
  
  If you run the 
  above command and get computer accounts back, see kb825675 as referenced by 
  Steve.  I wasn't aware that that bug also registered A records for the 
  domain name, but it might...
  
   
  
  If you're new to 
  NSLOOKUP, consider what information you want.  There's a bunch of 
  different types of DNS record that might be of interest (A, CNAME, PTR, SRV, 
  MX).  When troubleshooting AD, the main ones to look for are A and SRV 
  (there's also an instance where you need to check the CNAME record too).  
  Remember that simply pinging a DC doesn't mean that the necessary SRV records 
  are in place.  I personally always advise people to use a combination of 
  NSLOOKUP and NLTEST to troubleshoot DNS and the locator process.  Use 
  NSLOOKUP to see if the records that you expect are there, and NLTEST to make 
  the DsGetDC and DsGetSite calls.
  
   
  
   
  
  --Paul
  

- Original Message - 


From: Ramon Linan 


To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 


Sent: Monday, 
August 28, 2006 7:14 PM

Subject: 
[ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

 
Hi 
Everyone,
 
When I do a 
nslookup domain.com, being domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A 
list of the dns server in my domain? A list of the DC? 

 
The fact is that I 
am doing nslookup and I am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s 
computer
 
Thanks


Re: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 hours so far - anything proactive to do?

2006-08-29 Thread Danny
We should be good, then. Thanks, JoeDOn 8/29/06, joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Nope you should be good unless you have some special 
dependence on that DC. Normally you need to worry once you start to 
approach the TSL which is usually 60 days for most places or if you don't know 
why the DC is down (i.e. Mr. BlackHat is hacking your server in an offline 
fashion). If the machine does approach the TSL time down, just whack it out of 
the directory and rebuild when it comes back up.
 
  joe
 

--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
DannySent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:50 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 
hours so far - anything proactive to do?
One of our sites has been without power for over 36 hours now. Is 
there anything that I should do in AD if the site could potentially be down for 
the another day or more? DC's are mixed between 2000 SP4, 2003 SP1, and 2003R2. 
Thanks,...D-- CPDE - Certified Petroleum 
Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer 

-- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer


Re: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 hours so far - anything proactive to do?

2006-08-29 Thread Danny
Good advice. Thanks, PaulDOn 8/29/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Not much that you can do other than filter 
out the replication errors from your monitoring solution, so that calls aren't 
needlessly raised.
 
A couple of days won't cause you any 
issues.  Just ensure that everything is replicating and talking properly 
when things come back online.
 
 
--Paul

  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
  Danny 

  To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:49 
  PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 
  hours so far - anything proactive to do?
  One of our sites has been without power for over 36 hours now. 
  Is there anything that I should do in AD if the site could potentially be down 
  for the another day or more? DC's are mixed between 2000 SP4, 2003 SP1, and 
  2003R2. Thanks,...D-- CPDE - Certified 
  Petroleum Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer 


-- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer


RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Thommes, Michael M.








I am guessing, based on the port number,
you have a DNS A record for this computer in gc._msdcs.domain.com .

 

Mike Thommes

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006
10:06 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 

I did the nslookup -type=srv
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.com and I got

 

_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.com   
SRV service location:

 
priority   = 0

 
weight = 100

 
port   = 389

 
svr hostname   = sami.domain.com

 

 

I can’t find that machine anywhere,
not in the AD or dns server!!!

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006
10:15 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 

I think the key to this question is a very
simple troubleshooting step.  Go into DNS and look at the (same as parent
folder) records.  Delete the ones that aren’t currently DNS
servers.  If you are using AD integrated DNS, then this should be any
domain controllers that you want clients to get DNS from.  Give it a day
or two and see if the bad ones come back.  If they don’t then you
can assume this was an obsolete entry.  If they do then you can start
looking for why.  

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006
4:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 



If you do NSLOOKUP
DOMAIN-NAME.COM then you will get a list of all the DNS servers for that
domain.  For example, if you are using AD-Integrated DNS, you will get a
list of any DCs that are also DNS servers.  Basically, that command
returns the (Same as parent) records for the domain.





 





If you want to pull
all DCs in the domain, you need to run something like this:





 





nslookup -type=srv
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain-name.com





 





 





If you run the above command
and get computer accounts back, see kb825675 as referenced by Steve.  I
wasn't aware that that bug also registered A records for the domain name, but
it might...





 





If you're new to
NSLOOKUP, consider what information you want.  There's a bunch of different
types of DNS record that might be of interest (A, CNAME, PTR, SRV, MX). 
When troubleshooting AD, the main ones to look for are A and SRV (there's also
an instance where you need to check the CNAME record too).  Remember that
simply pinging a DC doesn't mean that the necessary SRV records are in place. 
I personally always advise people to use a combination of NSLOOKUP and NLTEST
to troubleshoot DNS and the locator process.  Use NSLOOKUP to see if the
records that you expect are there, and NLTEST to make the DsGetDC and DsGetSite
calls.





 





 





--Paul







- Original Message - 





From: Ramon Linan 





To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Sent: Monday, August 28,
2006 7:14 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
nslookup. AD beginer question





 



Hi Everyone,

 

When I do a nslookup domain.com, being
domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A list of the dns server in my domain?
A list of the DC? 

 

The fact is that I am doing nslookup and I
am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s computer

 

Thanks










RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Jason_Centenni
I've had "un-plugged" NIC's register threw the active one before with a
loopback. Check your DC's for 2nd or 3rd NIC's and see if you find one
named what your looking for?
   
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  SNO | Extension: 44843   
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I did the nslookup -type=srv _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.com and I got

_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.comSRV service location:
  priority   = 0
  weight = 100
  port   = 389
  svr hostname   = sami.domain.com


I can’t find that machine anywhere, not in the AD or dns server!!!


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:15 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

I think the key to this question is a very simple troubleshooting step.  Go
into DNS and look at the (same as parent folder) records.  Delete the ones
that aren’t currently DNS servers.  If you are using AD integrated DNS,
then this should be any domain controllers that you want clients to get DNS
from.  Give it a day or two and see if the bad ones come back.  If they
don’t then you can assume this was an obsolete entry.  If they do then you
can start looking for why.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

If you do NSLOOKUP DOMAIN-NAME.COM then you will get a list of all the DNS
servers for that domain.  For example, if you are using AD-Integrated DNS,
you will get a list of any DCs that are also DNS servers.  Basically, that
command returns the (Same as parent) records for the domain.

If you want to pull all DCs in the domain, you need to run something like
this:

nslookup -type=srv _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain-name.com


If you run the above command and get computer accounts back, see kb825675
as referenced by Steve.  I wasn't aware that that bug also registered A
records for the domain name, but it might...

If you're new to NSLOOKUP, consider what information you want.  There's a
bunch of different types of DNS record that might be of interest (A, CNAME,
PTR, SRV, MX).  When troubleshooting AD, the main ones to look for are A
and SRV (there's also an instance where you need to check the CNAME record
too).  Remember that simply pinging a DC doesn't mean that the necessary
SRV records are in place.  I personally always advise people to use a
combination of NSLOOKUP and NLTEST to troubleshoot DNS and the locator
process.  Use NSLOOKUP to see if the records that you expect are there, and
NLTEST to make the DsGetDC and DsGetSite calls.


--Paul
 - Original Message -
 From: Ramon Linan
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:14 PM
 Subject: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

 Hi Everyone,

 When I do a nslookup domain.com, being domain.com my AD domain, what
 should I see? A list of the dns server in my domain? A list of the DC?

 The fact is that I am doing nslookup and I am getting, domain controllers
 but also a user’s computer

[ActiveDir] Seperate forest migration notes

2006-08-29 Thread Danny
A company was acquired. Seperate 2000/2003 forest, now a two-way trust exists, but we are looking at migrating their users, mailboxes, computers, and servers into our forest.Working on a plan to test moving a user, mailbox, computer, and server into our forest. Plan:
Select test users and computersInstall ADMTTest user migration via ADMTTest computer migration via RDP manaully or script (must locate)Test mailbox migration via Exchange Migration WizardLogin as user and test services/access
Am I missing anything? Any tips?Thanks,...D-- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer


RE: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 hours so far - anything proactive to do?

2006-08-29 Thread Robert Rutherford








No, it will sort itself out….. if it’s
a big operation then you may want to shape the IP traffic to give the AD some
priority on reconnect.

 



Rob 

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QuoStar Solutions
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny
Sent: 29 August 2006 15:50
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Site down for
36 hours so far - anything proactive to do?



 

One of our sites has been without power for over 36 hours now. Is there
anything that I should do in AD if the site could potentially be down for the
another day or more? DC's are mixed between 2000 SP4, 2003 SP1, and 2003R2. 

Thanks,

...D

-- 
CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution Engineer
CCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer 








RE: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 hours so far - anything proactive to do?

2006-08-29 Thread joe



Nope you should be good unless you have some special 
dependence on that DC. Normally you need to worry once you start to 
approach the TSL which is usually 60 days for most places or if you don't know 
why the DC is down (i.e. Mr. BlackHat is hacking your server in an offline 
fashion). If the machine does approach the TSL time down, just whack it out of 
the directory and rebuild when it comes back up.
 
  joe
 

--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
DannySent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:50 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 
hours so far - anything proactive to do?
One of our sites has been without power for over 36 hours now. Is 
there anything that I should do in AD if the site could potentially be down for 
the another day or more? DC's are mixed between 2000 SP4, 2003 SP1, and 2003R2. 
Thanks,...D-- CPDE - Certified Petroleum 
Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer 


Re: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 hours so far - anything proactive to do?

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Williams



Not much that you can do other than filter 
out the replication errors from your monitoring solution, so that calls aren't 
needlessly raised.
 
A couple of days won't cause you any 
issues.  Just ensure that everything is replicating and talking properly 
when things come back online.
 
 
--Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Danny 

  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 3:49 
  PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] Site down for 36 
  hours so far - anything proactive to do?
  One of our sites has been without power for over 36 hours now. 
  Is there anything that I should do in AD if the site could potentially be down 
  for the another day or more? DC's are mixed between 2000 SP4, 2003 SP1, and 
  2003R2. Thanks,...D-- CPDE - Certified 
  Petroleum Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer 



RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Ramon Linan








I did the nslookup -type=srv
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.com and I got

 

_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain.com    SRV
service location:

  priority   = 0

  weight = 100

  port   = 389

  svr hostname   = sami.domain.com

 

 

I can’t find that machine anywhere,
not in the AD or dns server!!!

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006
10:15 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 

I think the key to this question is a very
simple troubleshooting step.  Go into DNS and look at the (same as parent
folder) records.  Delete the ones that aren’t currently DNS
servers.  If you are using AD integrated DNS, then this should be any
domain controllers that you want clients to get DNS from.  Give it a day
or two and see if the bad ones come back.  If they don’t then you
can assume this was an obsolete entry.  If they do then you can start
looking for why.  

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006
4:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 



If you do NSLOOKUP
DOMAIN-NAME.COM then you will get a list of all the DNS servers for that
domain.  For example, if you are using AD-Integrated DNS, you will get a
list of any DCs that are also DNS servers.  Basically, that command
returns the (Same as parent) records for the domain.





 





If you want to pull
all DCs in the domain, you need to run something like this:





 





nslookup -type=srv
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain-name.com





 





 





If you run the above
command and get computer accounts back, see kb825675 as referenced by Steve. 
I wasn't aware that that bug also registered A records for the domain name, but
it might...





 





If you're new to
NSLOOKUP, consider what information you want.  There's a bunch of
different types of DNS record that might be of interest (A, CNAME, PTR, SRV,
MX).  When troubleshooting AD, the main ones to look for are A and SRV
(there's also an instance where you need to check the CNAME record too). 
Remember that simply pinging a DC doesn't mean that the necessary SRV records
are in place.  I personally always advise people to use a combination of
NSLOOKUP and NLTEST to troubleshoot DNS and the locator process.  Use
NSLOOKUP to see if the records that you expect are there, and NLTEST to make
the DsGetDC and DsGetSite calls.





 





 





--Paul







- Original Message - 





From: Ramon Linan 





To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Sent: Monday, August 28,
2006 7:14 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
nslookup. AD beginer question





 



Hi Everyone,

 

When I do a nslookup domain.com, being
domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A list of the dns server in my
domain? A list of the DC? 

 

The fact is that I am doing nslookup and I
am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s computer

 

Thanks










[ActiveDir] Site down for 36 hours so far - anything proactive to do?

2006-08-29 Thread Danny
One of our sites has been without power for over 36 hours now. Is there anything that I should do in AD if the site could potentially be down for the another day or more? DC's are mixed between 2000 SP4, 2003 SP1, and 2003R2.
Thanks,...D-- CPDE - Certified Petroleum Distribution EngineerCCBC - Certified Canadian Beer Consumer


Re: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI

2006-08-29 Thread Albert Duro
good stuff, Steve, thanks.  But isn't all this really a duplication of what 
the Browse List already does?


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Rochford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI


I'd guess it depends why you're wanting to manage a printer but if it's
in response to someone reporting some kind of problem with their printer
then you can just sit at your computer and type \\ into
explorer. You'll then see the "printers and faxes" folder - double click
that and you'll have access to the printer(s)installed even if they're
not shared. I don't think it's much more work than connecting through
the AD GUI.

If you don't know the name of the computers with printers then it
wouldn't be too hard to use a WMI script to build a database of
computers and their printers - this could then feed a web page listing
them and you just click on the name to connect in the same way as typing
the name above.

If most of your machines are on all the time and there are not too many
then the web page could even do a live query of each machine to get the
printer details.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Duro
Sent: 28 August 2006 16:11
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI

I figured out where the disconnect is in this discussion.  You see, I'm
the sole IT of a small org, barely over the SBS size, and I have to do
*everything*.  I had overlooked the fact that those of you who are at
the top of a large IT pyramid have to leave the management of printers
to lower admins, techs, and even users.  I can't do that.  If an
unshared printer needs management, I have to either drill through the
browse list, or travel to the workstation and disrupt the user.
It would be just great if the AD printer list could make printers shared
but invisible (to all but the owner and Admin).  Kinda like Exchange
mailboxes, which can still be used and managed even when invisible.
Maybe the aforementioned Printer Management Console offers something
like that - I haven't checked it out yet.  But surely this couldn't be
an unreasonable wish.

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RE: [ActiveDir] DMZ and Trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Wyatt, David
Title: Message



Thanks 
for your comments.
 
-David
 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: 29 Aug 2006 14:56To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] DMZ and 
  Trusts
  Interesting.  I stick by the original note I posted. The risks are 
  more procedural, such as the example you mentioned about the passwords being 
  the same.  The other issue noted is that it is really no longer a DMZ if 
  the internal users can access it.  
   
  I don't know of any other increased risks outside of those categories. 
  The traffic originates only from one direction, and the risk may be tolerable 
  for the requirements it meets in your case. 
   
  For what it's worth, I personally think that the added complexity put on 
  the users of the service is warranted as a reminder to let the user know they 
  are administering in a higher security zone. I think this reminder outweighs 
  the convenience and plays a part in the reliablity and stability and is in 
  keeping with the intended purpose of a DMZ topology. 
   
  My thoughts though.  I'm not a security expert, but I sometimes play 
  one on the internet so take the opinion with that knowledge. 
   
  Al 
  On 8/29/06, Wyatt, 
  David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  


Hi Al
 
I am "pulling" the 
statement from a Microsoft chat transcript found here:
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/chats/trans/windowsnet/wnet_101404.mspx 

 
One of the quotes 
says:

Paul Rich MS (Expert):Jim, creating a trust from 
your internal forest to the externally facing forest is definitely something 
that presents security risks. Although I'm not saying it can't be done, I 
wouldn't do it but then I don't have a requirement to do so. Creating trust 
from the DMZ/external forest to the internal forest is normally done in 
order to allow internal folks to administer the external forest, which is a 
legitimate desire. However, there are risks with creating the trust in that 
direction. 
What I am trying 
to find out is what these "risks" are.  I know the transcript goes on 
to say about the use of passwords that could be the same for both the 
internal and external forests but I am more interested in any known 
exploits, hijacks etc that may exist. 
I wouldn't configure a 
firewall rule with ANY>DMZ anyway.  There would be a set of 
rules for external--->DMZ and internal--->DMZ.  Each would have 
specific rules for the services that are required. 
-David
 

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al 
MulnickSent: 25 Aug 2006 18:01To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 
DMZ and Trusts




  Where are you pulling the "not recommended" from? 
   
  The issues are not typically technical, but rather procedural once 
  you get past the, "yes, but if it's a DMZ, should internal users have 
  direct access?" questions. :)
   
  One other thing to point out: the users will also have to have direct 
  access to the application.  From a network perspective, that's often 
  seen as an issue because the firewall is then configured for any -->DMZ 
  host. That really does defeat the purpose of a DMZ in most cases. 
   
  My added $0.04 anyway. 
   
  -ajm 
  On 8/25/06, Wyatt, 
  David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
  
  


Hello
 
Imagine the following scenario, 
you have an internal W2K3 
forest and an external W2K3 forest on the DMZ.  Management wish to 
create one-way trust between the two forests so the DMZ forest trusts 
the internal forest for an application. 
 
I have read that this is obviously 
possible but not recommended and cannot find out why.  Does 
anyone know what the exact security issues or exploits could be?  
Assume we have a firewall with the rules configured to only allow trust 
traffic through. 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Kevin Brunson








I think the key to this question is a very
simple troubleshooting step.  Go into DNS and look at the (same as parent
folder) records.  Delete the ones that aren’t currently DNS servers.  If
you are using AD integrated DNS, then this should be any domain controllers
that you want clients to get DNS from.  Give it a day or two and see if the bad
ones come back.  If they don’t then you can assume this was an obsolete
entry.  If they do then you can start looking for why.  

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006
4:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 



If you do NSLOOKUP
DOMAIN-NAME.COM then you will get a list of all the DNS servers for that
domain.  For example, if you are using AD-Integrated DNS, you will get a
list of any DCs that are also DNS servers.  Basically, that command
returns the (Same as parent) records for the domain.





 





If you want to pull
all DCs in the domain, you need to run something like this:





 





nslookup -type=srv
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain-name.com





 





 





If you run the above
command and get computer accounts back, see kb825675 as referenced by Steve. 
I wasn't aware that that bug also registered A records for the domain name, but
it might...





 





If you're new to
NSLOOKUP, consider what information you want.  There's a bunch of
different types of DNS record that might be of interest (A, CNAME, PTR, SRV,
MX).  When troubleshooting AD, the main ones to look for are A and SRV
(there's also an instance where you need to check the CNAME record too). 
Remember that simply pinging a DC doesn't mean that the necessary SRV records
are in place.  I personally always advise people to use a combination of
NSLOOKUP and NLTEST to troubleshoot DNS and the locator process.  Use
NSLOOKUP to see if the records that you expect are there, and NLTEST to make
the DsGetDC and DsGetSite calls.





 





 





--Paul







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From: Ramon Linan 





To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Sent: Monday, August 28,
2006 7:14 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
nslookup. AD beginer question





 



Hi Everyone,

 

When I do a nslookup domain.com, being
domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A list of the dns server in my
domain? A list of the DC? 

 

The fact is that I am doing nslookup and I
am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s computer

 

Thanks










Re: [ActiveDir] DMZ and Trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Al Mulnick
Interesting.  I stick by the original note I posted. The risks are more procedural, such as the example you mentioned about the passwords being the same.  The other issue noted is that it is really no longer a DMZ if the internal users can access it.  

 
I don't know of any other increased risks outside of those categories. The traffic originates only from one direction, and the risk may be tolerable for the requirements it meets in your case. 
 
For what it's worth, I personally think that the added complexity put on the users of the service is warranted as a reminder to let the user know they are administering in a higher security zone. I think this reminder outweighs the convenience and plays a part in the reliablity and stability and is in keeping with the intended purpose of a DMZ topology. 

 
My thoughts though.  I'm not a security expert, but I sometimes play one on the internet so take the opinion with that knowledge. 
 
Al 
On 8/29/06, Wyatt, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi Al
 
I am "pulling" the statement from a Microsoft chat transcript found here:
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/chats/trans/windowsnet/wnet_101404.mspx

 
One of the quotes says:

Paul Rich MS (Expert):Jim, creating a trust from your internal forest to the externally facing forest is definitely something that presents security risks. Although I'm not saying it can't be done, I wouldn't do it but then I don't have a requirement to do so. Creating trust from the DMZ/external forest to the internal forest is normally done in order to allow internal folks to administer the external forest, which is a legitimate desire. However, there are risks with creating the trust in that direction.

What I am trying to find out is what these "risks" are.  I know the transcript goes on to say about the use of passwords that could be the same for both the internal and external forests but I am more interested in any known exploits, hijacks etc that may exist.
 
I wouldn't configure a firewall rule with ANY>DMZ anyway.  There would be a set of rules for external--->DMZ and internal--->DMZ.  Each would have specific rules for the services that are required.

-David
 

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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] DMZ and Trusts




Where are you pulling the "not recommended" from? 
 
The issues are not typically technical, but rather procedural once you get past the, "yes, but if it's a DMZ, should internal users have direct access?" questions. :)
 
One other thing to point out: the users will also have to have direct access to the application.  From a network perspective, that's often seen as an issue because the firewall is then configured for any -->DMZ host. That really does defeat the purpose of a DMZ in most cases. 

 
My added $0.04 anyway. 
 
-ajm 
On 8/25/06, Wyatt, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 



Hello
 
Imagine the following scenario, you have an internal W2K3 forest and an external W2K3 forest on the DMZ.  Management wish to create one-way trust between the two forests so the DMZ forest trusts the internal forest for an application. 

 
I have read that this is obviously possible but not recommended and cannot find out why.  Does anyone know what the exact security issues or exploits could be?  Assume we have a firewall with the rules configured to only allow trust traffic through. 

 
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RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Ramon Linan








That was it, thanks so much

 









From:
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006
5:44 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 



Probably because it's
a secondary server.  Check to see if that IP is hosting a secondary copy
of the zone.





 





 





--Paul







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From: Ramon Linan 





To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org






Sent: Monday, August 28,
2006 10:04 PM





Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]
nslookup. AD beginer question





 



What I actually did was nslookup
domain.com…I just found out that one of the computer is a linux server
that is managing a child domain child.domain.com…that is the reason is
showing up there.

 

 

Anyway, I am also getting an ip address
for a windows server machine that is not a DC, don’t know why…

 

Rezuma

 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 4:25
PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question



 





You mean, you did the following:





 





nslookup 





set q=a





domain.com





 





and the IP you got is for a user's desktop?





 





If so, one reason could be because someone created an A
record in DNS for domain.com and mapped it to the desktop's IP. Maybe because
the desktop is running web service and hosting the domain.com web site.





 





Is this what you meant? If so, you will need to go and
delete the record. You will then need to tell your users that they will not be
able to get to the domain.com website site any longer because that is your
AD domain name. You could create another A record named (for example) WWW under
the domain.com zone and give it the desktop's IP and tell your users that they
should now use http://www.domain.com/
to get to that website instead of domain.com





 





This is a fairly common misconfiguration. And it's a big
problem for your clients and DCs.





 












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From: Ramon Linan
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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup.
AD beginer question





Thanks, but after reading all that I still
was not able to find out what kind of information do you get when you do lookup
domain.com, being domain.com your AD domain, and why am I getting a
user’s computer.

 

Thanks

 









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AD beginer question



 





http://www.cni.org/pub/inetroom/nslookup.html





 





http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/nslookup.mspx?mfr=true





 





http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/nslookup__subcommands.mspx?mfr=true





 












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From: Ramon Linan
Sent: Mon 8/28/2006 11:14 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD
beginer question





Hi Everyone,

 

When I do a nslookup domain.com, being
domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A list of the dns server in my
domain? A list of the DC? 

 

The fact is that I am doing nslookup and I
am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s computer

 

Thanks














Re: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

2006-08-29 Thread Za Vue
GPO is being applied, but if the problem is caused by GPO than it would 
also affected all the lab machines and not just three. When the machine 
is at the logon screen I can look at the winlogon registry remotely and 
see that it has not been modified.


I will try what Christopher Drewery suggested first.

Z.V.

Kurt Falde wrote:

Throw regmon on the box with a filter for that specific key to try to
see when it is being overwritten.  If it's every 90 min could be you
have a GPO somewhere that's doing it for you.  Run a RSOP using GPMC
against the machine/user and check for the setting to see if a GPO is
being applied to it.

Kurt Falde

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:17 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

Domain: Windows 2003
Clients: Xp w/sp2

Problem: The autologon registry hack on 3 of my lab machines will not 
stay permanent. All machines restart each morning at 2:00 AM and they 
automatically  log in to the domain. In the morning if I re-apply the 
auto logon registry hack the machines work fine the rest of the day, no 
matter how many reboots.Comments? Suggestions?


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RE: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

2006-08-29 Thread Kurt Falde
Throw regmon on the box with a filter for that specific key to try to
see when it is being overwritten.  If it's every 90 min could be you
have a GPO somewhere that's doing it for you.  Run a RSOP using GPMC
against the machine/user and check for the setting to see if a GPO is
being applied to it.

Kurt Falde

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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:17 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

Domain: Windows 2003
Clients: Xp w/sp2

Problem: The autologon registry hack on 3 of my lab machines will not 
stay permanent. All machines restart each morning at 2:00 AM and they 
automatically  log in to the domain. In the morning if I re-apply the 
auto logon registry hack the machines work fine the rest of the day, no 
matter how many reboots.Comments? Suggestions?

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Re: [ActiveDir] Auto Logon

2006-08-29 Thread Christopher . Drewery

I had this problem about a year ago.
I got it working in the end by changing the logon name from "user"
to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and it worked fine, give that a go and let
us know what happens

C.






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Domain: Windows 2003
Clients: Xp w/sp2

Problem: The autologon registry hack on 3 of my lab machines will not 
stay permanent. All machines restart each morning at 2:00 AM and they 
automatically  log in to the domain. In the morning if I re-apply
the 
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[ActiveDir] Auto Logon

2006-08-29 Thread Za Vue

Domain: Windows 2003
Clients: Xp w/sp2

Problem: The autologon registry hack on 3 of my lab machines will not 
stay permanent. All machines restart each morning at 2:00 AM and they 
automatically  log in to the domain. In the morning if I re-apply the 
auto logon registry hack the machines work fine the rest of the day, no 
matter how many reboots.Comments? Suggestions?


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RE: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI

2006-08-29 Thread Steve Rochford
I'd guess it depends why you're wanting to manage a printer but if it's
in response to someone reporting some kind of problem with their printer
then you can just sit at your computer and type \\ into
explorer. You'll then see the "printers and faxes" folder - double click
that and you'll have access to the printer(s)installed even if they're
not shared. I don't think it's much more work than connecting through
the AD GUI. 

If you don't know the name of the computers with printers then it
wouldn't be too hard to use a WMI script to build a database of
computers and their printers - this could then feed a web page listing
them and you just click on the name to connect in the same way as typing
the name above.

If most of your machines are on all the time and there are not too many
then the web page could even do a live query of each machine to get the
printer details.

Steve

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Sent: 28 August 2006 16:11
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Printers & AD GUI

I figured out where the disconnect is in this discussion.  You see, I'm
the sole IT of a small org, barely over the SBS size, and I have to do
*everything*.  I had overlooked the fact that those of you who are at
the top of a large IT pyramid have to leave the management of printers
to lower admins, techs, and even users.  I can't do that.  If an
unshared printer needs management, I have to either drill through the
browse list, or travel to the workstation and disrupt the user.
It would be just great if the AD printer list could make printers shared
but invisible (to all but the owner and Admin).  Kinda like Exchange
mailboxes, which can still be used and managed even when invisible.
Maybe the aforementioned Printer Management Console offers something
like that - I haven't checked it out yet.  But surely this couldn't be
an unreasonable wish.

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Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Williams



Probably because it's a secondary 
server.  Check to see if that IP is hosting a secondary copy of the 
zone.
 
 
--Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ramon Linan 
  
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:04 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
  
  
  What I actually did 
  was nslookup domain.com…I just found out that one of the computer is a linux 
  server that is managing a child domain child.domain.com…that is the reason is 
  showing up there.
   
   
  Anyway, I am also 
  getting an ip address for a windows server machine that is not a DC, don’t 
  know why…
   
  Rezuma
   
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, DejiSent: Monday, August 28, 2006 4:25 
  PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
   
  
  
  You mean, you did 
  the following:
  
   
  
  nslookup 
  
  
  set 
  q=a
  
  domain.com
  
   
  
  and the IP you got is for a user's 
  desktop?
  
   
  
  If so, one reason could be because 
  someone created an A record in DNS for domain.com and mapped it to the 
  desktop's IP. Maybe because the desktop is running web service and hosting the 
  domain.com web site.
  
   
  
  Is this what you meant? If so, you 
  will need to go and delete the record. You will then need to tell your users 
  that they will not be able to get to the domain.com website site any 
  longer because that is your AD domain name. You could create another A record 
  named (for example) WWW under the domain.com zone and give it the desktop's IP 
  and tell your users that they should now use http://www.domain.com/ to get to that website instead of 
  domain.com
  
   
  
  This is a fairly common 
  misconfiguration. And it's a big problem for your clients and 
  DCs.
  
   
  
  
  
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  From: 
  Ramon LinanSent: Mon 8/28/2006 1:03 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
  
  Thanks, but after 
  reading all that I still was not able to find out what kind of information do 
  you get when you do lookup domain.com, being domain.com your AD domain, and 
  why am I getting a user’s computer.
   
  Thanks
   
  
  
  
  
  From: 
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  On Behalf Of Akomolafe, 
  DejiSent: Monday, August 28, 
  2006 2:21 PMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD 
  beginer question
   
  
  
  http://www.cni.org/pub/inetroom/nslookup.html
  
   
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/nslookup.mspx?mfr=true
  
   
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/nslookup__subcommands.mspx?mfr=true
  
   
  
  
  
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  From: 
  Ramon LinanSent: Mon 8/28/2006 11:14 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer 
  question
  
  Hi 
  Everyone,
   
  When I do a nslookup 
  domain.com, being domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A list of the 
  dns server in my domain? A list of the DC? 
   
  The fact is that I am 
  doing nslookup and I am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s 
  computer
   
  Thanks


Re: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer question

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Williams



If you do NSLOOKUP DOMAIN-NAME.COM then 
you will get a list of all the DNS servers for that domain.  For example, 
if you are using AD-Integrated DNS, you will get a list of any DCs that are also 
DNS servers.  Basically, that command returns the (Same as parent) records 
for the domain.
 
If you want to pull all DCs in the domain, 
you need to run something like this:
 
nslookup -type=srv 
_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain-name.com
 
 
If you run the above command and get 
computer accounts back, see kb825675 as referenced by Steve.  I wasn't 
aware that that bug also registered A records for the domain name, but it 
might...
 
If you're new to NSLOOKUP, consider what 
information you want.  There's a bunch of different types of DNS record 
that might be of interest (A, CNAME, PTR, SRV, MX).  When troubleshooting 
AD, the main ones to look for are A and SRV (there's also an instance where you 
need to check the CNAME record too).  Remember that simply pinging a DC 
doesn't mean that the necessary SRV records are in place.  I personally 
always advise people to use a combination of NSLOOKUP and NLTEST to troubleshoot 
DNS and the locator process.  Use NSLOOKUP to see if the records that you 
expect are there, and NLTEST to make the DsGetDC and DsGetSite 
calls.
 
 
--Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ramon Linan 
  
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:14 
  PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] nslookup. AD beginer 
  question
  
  
  Hi 
  Everyone,
   
  When I do a nslookup 
  domain.com, being domain.com my AD domain, what should I see? A list of the 
  dns server in my domain? A list of the DC? 
   
  The fact is that I am 
  doing nslookup and I am getting, domain controllers but also a user’s 
  computer
   
  Thanks


RE: [ActiveDir] DMZ and Trusts

2006-08-29 Thread Wyatt, David
Title: Message



Hi 
Al
 
I am 
"pulling" the statement from a Microsoft chat transcript found 
here:
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/chats/trans/windowsnet/wnet_101404.mspx
 
One of 
the quotes says:

Paul Rich MS (Expert):Jim, creating a trust from your 
internal forest to the externally facing forest is definitely something that 
presents security risks. Although I'm not saying it can't be done, I wouldn't do 
it but then I don't have a requirement to do so. Creating trust from the 
DMZ/external forest to the internal forest is normally done in order to allow 
internal folks to administer the external forest, which is a legitimate desire. 
However, there are risks with creating the trust in that direction.
What I am trying to find out is what these "risks" are.  I know the 
transcript goes on to say about the use of passwords that could be the same for 
both the internal and external forests but I am more interested in any known 
exploits, hijacks etc that may exist.
I wouldn't configure a firewall rule with ANY>DMZ 
anyway.  There would be a set of rules for external--->DMZ and 
internal--->DMZ.  Each would have specific rules for the services that 
are required.
-David
 
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: 25 Aug 2006 18:01To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] DMZ and 
Trusts

  Where are you pulling the "not recommended" from? 
   
  The issues are not typically technical, but rather procedural once you 
  get past the, "yes, but if it's a DMZ, should internal users have direct 
  access?" questions. :)
   
  One other thing to point out: the users will also have to have direct 
  access to the application.  From a network perspective, that's often seen 
  as an issue because the firewall is then configured for any -->DMZ host. 
  That really does defeat the purpose of a DMZ in most cases. 
   
  My added $0.04 anyway. 
   
  -ajm 
  On 8/25/06, Wyatt, 
  David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote: 
  


Hello
 
Imagine the following scenario, 
you have an internal W2K3 forest 
and an external W2K3 forest on the DMZ.  Management wish to create 
one-way trust between the two forests so the DMZ forest trusts the internal 
forest for an application. 
 
I have read that this is obviously 
possible but not recommended and cannot find out why.  Does anyone 
know what the exact security issues or exploits could be?  Assume we 
have a firewall with the rules configured to only allow trust traffic 
through. 
 
Regards
David
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Add folder with quota to existing mailboxes - via scripting or tool

2006-08-29 Thread victor-w
I agree with you, this is not the best solution by far.

The customer will tell its users that all other folders, including 
tasks and
the calendar, are not private and that only the private folder will be
'private/personal'

The user will perhaps, or even probably, assume that the folder will 
never
be looked at by IT, while in fact it would probably indeed be the first
folder IT would look in, in case of trouble.

If it would have been my choice it would have been another solution but 
I didnt have the final say in this one. Sometimes you aren't in the 
position to give the definite answer and you are simply only executing 
orders. We have probably all been in that position and
sometimes still are.

I am interested in the technical aspect of the matter, the script 
itself and
the technical possibilities and difficulties that come to play, like not
being able to set a quota to a seperate folder in Exchange 2003.

Brian, you pointed out to me that Exchange 2007 does offer this 
functionality so I checked it out and I came accross 'managed folders', 
interesting:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/E2k7Help/859e437b-
44b2-4203-883e-cb8c365973fd.mspx?mfr=true

Thank you also for pointing me to two 3rd party application who offer 
exactly this functionality but customer chooses not to implement them 
for various reasons, additional costs being the most significant one.

I agree it would indeed be better to have this tacked onto a script to 
mailbox enable/mailbox connect users, but I know this will be refused 
because, as you pointed out, this creates a dependency (the customers 
IT department who will have to execute the script). So it will probably 
come down to a script which will run a couple of times a day, checking 
all mailboxes for the existence of the folder and if not present, 
adding it.

We are talking about 1 server, not experiencing any performance 
problems (containing two 3.6 GHz Xeon procs, 4 gig of mem and hosting 
400 mailboxes).

Looking at the initial script that was suggested by Mathieu: 

set olApp = CreateObject("Outlook.Application")
set inbox = olApp.GetNamespace("MAPI").getDefaultFolder(6) 
set temp5 = inbox.folders.add("Private",6) 

This creates a folder under the inbox folder. how would the last line 
look like if the folder would have to be created in the root of the 
mailbox? 

I have been checking more into the details of the script myself and ran 
into this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310244 But I cannot seem to find how 
to refer to the root of the mailbox.

I am probably missing something but I dont see in this script which 
users will be affected by the script, to who it will apply, 
like 'domain.com' for instance. This could be particularly interesting 
to use for testing, if it would be possible to apply it to only one 
user for instance, by specifying a dn for instance.

Is it possible to add these additions to the script?



From: "joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:45:31 -0400 




This sounds kooky. What does the customer intend to do with the rest of 
the
mailbox or how do they intend to specially treat the private folder? 
What
about the calendar and tasks? Private or not? 

Currently there really isn't a good technical solution to this. About 
the
best is that you tack onto the end of the script you use to mailbox 
enable
users and it logs into the mailbox so it gets instantiated and then 
creates
the folder; you can't specify Exchange to create a folder once the 
mailbox
is instantiated later. As Brian indicated, you also can't set a quota 
on the
folder. 

Now with the above you still have the issue of people not using your 
script
to mailbox enable users (or say doing a mailbox reconnect) so at some 
point
you would have to be scanning mailboxes looking for that folder and 
adding
it if missing. Depending on the number of mailboxes this could be 
something
that has to be constantly running because it can take a long time to 
log in
and check all of those mailboxes. Personally I hate writing scripts that
loop through all mailboxes like that as they always seem to get screwed 
up
after a bit. The whole programmatic aspect of Exchange mailboxes and 
logging
into them, etc is flakey and slow, IMO. 

Probably the better solution is just to tell people, hi, if you get 
private
or personal email, create a folder called private and put it in there. 
The
rest of your mailbox is not considered private and we will be xxx. 
Where
the xx is whatever it is the customer intends to do with the rest 
of the
mailbox or how they expect to treat the private folder differently from 
the
rest of the mailbox. 

Personally again, I say it is all kooky. IMO, when you really get down 
to
it, none of a business mailbox is private/personal. The company can go 
into
any