[ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

Hi guys,

I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.

Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
the little secret for this? *g*

Many thanks to all,
Bart
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

RedEarth Software policypatrol.com

Wizard and GUI

The SBS way

There are instructions at www.smallbizserver.net (I think they are still 
in the free docs) ...but I'm blonde and GUI and policy patrol works.


If you are cheap GFI's mail scanner ...install the trial version and 
when it expires the disclaimer stays (or last I heard)


Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.

Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
the little secret for this? *g*

Many thanks to all,
Bart
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Rutherford
Loads of tools as Susan says, but just to note the GFI one no longer
works - one of my engineers tried it a couple of months ago.

Rob

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: 02 August 2006 22:21
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

RedEarth Software policypatrol.com

Wizard and GUI

The SBS way

There are instructions at www.smallbizserver.net (I think they are still

in the free docs) ...but I'm blonde and GUI and policy patrol works.

If you are cheap GFI's mail scanner ...install the trial version and 
when it expires the disclaimer stays (or last I heard)

Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
> I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
> configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
> forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.
>
> Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
> the little secret for this? *g*
>
> Many thanks to all,
> Bart
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> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx
>

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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Joe Kaplan
We actually use a script at work after having tried a few products and 
having terrible performance problems.  If you are interested, I'll ping one 
of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little direction.


Once you actually get it working from a plumbing standpoint, the script 
itself is actually a bit trickier to implement than the trivial sample MS 
shows.  You have to decide if you are going to put HTML into HTML body 
parts, text into text body parts, both into messages that have both, and 
what to do about signed messages, as the disclaimer will change the data and 
invalidate the digital signature.  You also need to be careful you don't 
screw up the encoding of messages in non-ASCII or ISO-8859-1 character sets. 
You can also decide if you want to add the disclaimer to messages that 
already contain it (sometimes mail routing may cause a message to hit the 
sink more than once) or not, and if you care about that, how do you decide 
if the disclaimer is in there?  :)


Ours still has some issues with a few of these points, but some of the 
problems were too tough to deal with for the people who were trying to solve 
them, so they just slid.


Joe K.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ActiveDir" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box



Hi guys,

I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.

Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
the little secret for this? *g*

Many thanks to all,
Bart
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but it's 
certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange server  ;-)  
Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that server 
with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise folks) 
of Store.


(and reading his message.. see why I went with Policypatrol?

Joe Kaplan wrote:
We actually use a script at work after having tried a few products and 
having terrible performance problems.  If you are interested, I'll 
ping one of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little 
direction.


Once you actually get it working from a plumbing standpoint, the 
script itself is actually a bit trickier to implement than the trivial 
sample MS shows.  You have to decide if you are going to put HTML into 
HTML body parts, text into text body parts, both into messages that 
have both, and what to do about signed messages, as the disclaimer 
will change the data and invalidate the digital signature.  You also 
need to be careful you don't screw up the encoding of messages in 
non-ASCII or ISO-8859-1 character sets. You can also decide if you 
want to add the disclaimer to messages that already contain it 
(sometimes mail routing may cause a message to hit the sink more than 
once) or not, and if you care about that, how do you decide if the 
disclaimer is in there?  :)


Ours still has some issues with a few of these points, but some of the 
problems were too tough to deal with for the people who were trying to 
solve them, so they just slid.


Joe K.
- Original Message - From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ActiveDir" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box



Hi guys,

I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.

Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
the little secret for this? *g*

Many thanks to all,
Bart
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Joe Kaplan
Sure, I saw the message and remembered that we were still using a disclaimer 
script for this, so I thought I'd offer some help, but a word of caution 
about the fact that the script can get tricky.


With only that many users, many of those problems might never show up.  We 
have a few more users than that (ok, 4 orders of magnitude!), so we see a 
lot of weird stuff that is hard to even imagine when you are testing the 
code.  :)


The product is probably a better choice, especially if it is cheap.

We really did try to buy a product to do this as we wanted more features and 
fewer problems (or someone else to blame them on), but only the script had 
reasonable performance.  Everything else brought our gateways to their knees 
and had to be disabled.  I was shocked by this actually.  :)


Joe K.
- Original Message - 
From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box


This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but it's 
certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange server  ;-) 
Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that server 
with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise folks) 
of Store.


(and reading his message.. see why I went with Policypatrol?

Joe Kaplan wrote:
We actually use a script at work after having tried a few products and 
having terrible performance problems.  If you are interested, I'll ping 
one of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little direction.


Once you actually get it working from a plumbing standpoint, the script 
itself is actually a bit trickier to implement than the trivial sample MS 
shows.  You have to decide if you are going to put HTML into HTML body 
parts, text into text body parts, both into messages that have both, and 
what to do about signed messages, as the disclaimer will change the data 
and invalidate the digital signature.  You also need to be careful you 
don't screw up the encoding of messages in non-ASCII or ISO-8859-1 
character sets. You can also decide if you want to add the disclaimer to 
messages that already contain it (sometimes mail routing may cause a 
message to hit the sink more than once) or not, and if you care about 
that, how do you decide if the disclaimer is in there?  :)


Ours still has some issues with a few of these points, but some of the 
problems were too tough to deal with for the people who were trying to 
solve them, so they just slid.


Joe K.
- Original Message - From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ActiveDir" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:41 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box



Hi guys,

I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.

Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
the little secret for this? *g*

Many thanks to all,
Bart
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

Thanks all!

Now the reason that I want to use the Event Sink way is because there
is no more need then that... And like said, GFI is no longer. Neither
the doc on Smallbizz.

I know there is a manipulation needed on SMTP level, but I just don't
see it. If somebody knows the little trick (was it an additional
connector or virtual server)...?

Thanks for the other inputs so far.
Bart

On 8/3/06, Joe Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sure, I saw the message and remembered that we were still using a disclaimer
script for this, so I thought I'd offer some help, but a word of caution
about the fact that the script can get tricky.

With only that many users, many of those problems might never show up.  We
have a few more users than that (ok, 4 orders of magnitude!), so we see a
lot of weird stuff that is hard to even imagine when you are testing the
code.  :)

The product is probably a better choice, especially if it is cheap.

We really did try to buy a product to do this as we wanted more features and
fewer problems (or someone else to blame them on), but only the script had
reasonable performance.  Everything else brought our gateways to their knees
and had to be disabled.  I was shocked by this actually.  :)

Joe K.
- Original Message -
From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box


> This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but it's
> certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange server  ;-)
> Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that server
> with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise folks)
> of Store.
>
> (and reading his message.. see why I went with Policypatrol?
>
> Joe Kaplan wrote:
>> We actually use a script at work after having tried a few products and
>> having terrible performance problems.  If you are interested, I'll ping
>> one of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little direction.
>>
>> Once you actually get it working from a plumbing standpoint, the script
>> itself is actually a bit trickier to implement than the trivial sample MS
>> shows.  You have to decide if you are going to put HTML into HTML body
>> parts, text into text body parts, both into messages that have both, and
>> what to do about signed messages, as the disclaimer will change the data
>> and invalidate the digital signature.  You also need to be careful you
>> don't screw up the encoding of messages in non-ASCII or ISO-8859-1
>> character sets. You can also decide if you want to add the disclaimer to
>> messages that already contain it (sometimes mail routing may cause a
>> message to hit the sink more than once) or not, and if you care about
>> that, how do you decide if the disclaimer is in there?  :)
>>
>> Ours still has some issues with a few of these points, but some of the
>> problems were too tough to deal with for the people who were trying to
>> solve them, so they just slid.
>>
>> Joe K.
>> ----- Original Message - From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ActiveDir" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:41 PM
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box
>>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
>>> I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
>>> configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
>>> forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.
>>>
>>> Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
>>> the little secret for this? *g*
>>>
>>> Many thanks to all,
>>> Bart
>>> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
>>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
>>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx
>>
>> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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>>
>
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>
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> will hunt you down...
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>
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-02 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Are you using the SBS's SMTP connector or using the 
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=317327 info there?


Marette's instructions to remove the SBS's native smtp connection, build 
a new one that listens on port 26, the time it would have taking me to 
follow her instructions.. I saved the time and money in getting out my 
credit card and buying an event sink already done.




Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:

Thanks all!

Now the reason that I want to use the Event Sink way is because there
is no more need then that... And like said, GFI is no longer. Neither
the doc on Smallbizz.

I know there is a manipulation needed on SMTP level, but I just don't
see it. If somebody knows the little trick (was it an additional
connector or virtual server)...?

Thanks for the other inputs so far.
Bart

On 8/3/06, Joe Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sure, I saw the message and remembered that we were still using a 
disclaimer

script for this, so I thought I'd offer some help, but a word of caution
about the fact that the script can get tricky.

With only that many users, many of those problems might never show 
up.  We
have a few more users than that (ok, 4 orders of magnitude!), so we 
see a

lot of weird stuff that is hard to even imagine when you are testing the
code.  :)

The product is probably a better choice, especially if it is cheap.

We really did try to buy a product to do this as we wanted more 
features and
fewer problems (or someone else to blame them on), but only the 
script had
reasonable performance.  Everything else brought our gateways to 
their knees

and had to be disabled.  I was shocked by this actually.  :)

Joe K.
- Original Message -
From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box


> This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but it's
> certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange server  ;-)
> Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that 
server
> with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise 
folks)

> of Store.
>
> (and reading his message.. see why I went with Policypatrol?
>
> Joe Kaplan wrote:
>> We actually use a script at work after having tried a few products 
and
>> having terrible performance problems.  If you are interested, I'll 
ping
>> one of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little 
direction.

>>
>> Once you actually get it working from a plumbing standpoint, the 
script
>> itself is actually a bit trickier to implement than the trivial 
sample MS
>> shows.  You have to decide if you are going to put HTML into HTML 
body
>> parts, text into text body parts, both into messages that have 
both, and
>> what to do about signed messages, as the disclaimer will change 
the data
>> and invalidate the digital signature.  You also need to be careful 
you

>> don't screw up the encoding of messages in non-ASCII or ISO-8859-1
>> character sets. You can also decide if you want to add the 
disclaimer to

>> messages that already contain it (sometimes mail routing may cause a
>> message to hit the sink more than once) or not, and if you care about
>> that, how do you decide if the disclaimer is in there?  :)
>>
>> Ours still has some issues with a few of these points, but some of 
the
>> problems were too tough to deal with for the people who were 
trying to

>> solve them, so they just slid.
>>
>> Joe K.
>> - Original Message - From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ActiveDir" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:41 PM
>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box
>>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 
box.
>>> I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The 
box is

>>> configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
>>> forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.
>>>
>>> Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please 
tell me

>>> the little secret for this? *g*
>>>
>>> Many thanks to all,
>>> Bart
>>> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
>>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
>>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx
>>
>> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx
>

Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

That's what I used, but in VBScript (the brother of the article you send).

I indeed can bind that event sink to the default SMTP virtual server,
but I don't see the disclaimers on external addresses. Then I saw that
Marette had instructions involving some manipulation on SMTP in case
you're using SBS.

Which also kinda sounds strange. But when I went digging a little bit,
I found that clients working with OL, will not have the disclaimer
added (MAPI). Finally I'm having the impression that this is kinda
made difficult while it should be easy by design... Or I'm a missing
something on that point?

It's not about the money, at least I don't pay it so don't care. From
my point of view, it's the technical aspect that I want to know how
it's structured and how to make it work really. That way I gain the
knowledge :-)

Bart

On 8/3/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Are you using the SBS's SMTP connector or using the
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=317327 info there?

Marette's instructions to remove the SBS's native smtp connection, build
a new one that listens on port 26, the time it would have taking me to
follow her instructions.. I saved the time and money in getting out my
credit card and buying an event sink already done.



Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
> Thanks all!
>
> Now the reason that I want to use the Event Sink way is because there
> is no more need then that... And like said, GFI is no longer. Neither
> the doc on Smallbizz.
>
> I know there is a manipulation needed on SMTP level, but I just don't
> see it. If somebody knows the little trick (was it an additional
> connector or virtual server)...?
>
> Thanks for the other inputs so far.
> Bart
>
> On 8/3/06, Joe Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sure, I saw the message and remembered that we were still using a
>> disclaimer
>> script for this, so I thought I'd offer some help, but a word of caution
>> about the fact that the script can get tricky.
>>
>> With only that many users, many of those problems might never show
>> up.  We
>> have a few more users than that (ok, 4 orders of magnitude!), so we
>> see a
>> lot of weird stuff that is hard to even imagine when you are testing the
>> code.  :)
>>
>> The product is probably a better choice, especially if it is cheap.
>>
>> We really did try to buy a product to do this as we wanted more
>> features and
>> fewer problems (or someone else to blame them on), but only the
>> script had
>> reasonable performance.  Everything else brought our gateways to
>> their knees
>> and had to be disabled.  I was shocked by this actually.  :)
>>
>> Joe K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box
>>
>>
>> > This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but it's
>> > certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange server  ;-)
>> > Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that
>> server
>> > with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise
>> folks)
>> > of Store.
>> >
>> > (and reading his message.. see why I went with Policypatrol?
>> >
>> > Joe Kaplan wrote:
>> >> We actually use a script at work after having tried a few products
>> and
>> >> having terrible performance problems.  If you are interested, I'll
>> ping
>> >> one of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little
>> direction.
>> >>
>> >> Once you actually get it working from a plumbing standpoint, the
>> script
>> >> itself is actually a bit trickier to implement than the trivial
>> sample MS
>> >> shows.  You have to decide if you are going to put HTML into HTML
>> body
>> >> parts, text into text body parts, both into messages that have
>> both, and
>> >> what to do about signed messages, as the disclaimer will change
>> the data
>> >> and invalidate the digital signature.  You also need to be careful
>> you
>> >> don't screw up the encoding of messages in non-ASCII or ISO-8859-1
>> >> character sets. You can also decide if you want to add the
>> disclaimer to
>> >> messages that already contain it (sometimes mail routing may cause a
>> >> message to hit the sink more than 

Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

http://www.msexchange.org/articles/Disclaimer-Fun.html

Glutten for punishment aren't ya?

Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
That's what I used, but in VBScript (the brother of the article you 
send).


I indeed can bind that event sink to the default SMTP virtual server,
but I don't see the disclaimers on external addresses. Then I saw that
Marette had instructions involving some manipulation on SMTP in case
you're using SBS.

Which also kinda sounds strange. But when I went digging a little bit,
I found that clients working with OL, will not have the disclaimer
added (MAPI). Finally I'm having the impression that this is kinda
made difficult while it should be easy by design... Or I'm a missing
something on that point?

It's not about the money, at least I don't pay it so don't care. From
my point of view, it's the technical aspect that I want to know how
it's structured and how to make it work really. That way I gain the
knowledge :-)

Bart

On 8/3/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Are you using the SBS's SMTP connector or using the
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=317327 info there?

Marette's instructions to remove the SBS's native smtp connection, build
a new one that listens on port 26, the time it would have taking me to
follow her instructions.. I saved the time and money in getting out my
credit card and buying an event sink already done.



Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
> Thanks all!
>
> Now the reason that I want to use the Event Sink way is because there
> is no more need then that... And like said, GFI is no longer. Neither
> the doc on Smallbizz.
>
> I know there is a manipulation needed on SMTP level, but I just don't
> see it. If somebody knows the little trick (was it an additional
> connector or virtual server)...?
>
> Thanks for the other inputs so far.
> Bart
>
> On 8/3/06, Joe Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sure, I saw the message and remembered that we were still using a
>> disclaimer
>> script for this, so I thought I'd offer some help, but a word of 
caution

>> about the fact that the script can get tricky.
>>
>> With only that many users, many of those problems might never show
>> up.  We
>> have a few more users than that (ok, 4 orders of magnitude!), so we
>> see a
>> lot of weird stuff that is hard to even imagine when you are 
testing the

>> code.  :)
>>
>> The product is probably a better choice, especially if it is cheap.
>>
>> We really did try to buy a product to do this as we wanted more
>> features and
>> fewer problems (or someone else to blame them on), but only the
>> script had
>> reasonable performance.  Everything else brought our gateways to
>> their knees
>> and had to be disabled.  I was shocked by this actually.  :)
>>
>> Joe K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 
2K3 box

>>
>>
>> > This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but it's
>> > certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange 
server  ;-)

>> > Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that
>> server
>> > with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise
>> folks)
>> > of Store.
>> >
>> > (and reading his message.. see why I went with Policypatrol?
>> >
>> > Joe Kaplan wrote:
>> >> We actually use a script at work after having tried a few products
>> and
>> >> having terrible performance problems.  If you are interested, I'll
>> ping
>> >> one of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little
>> direction.
>> >>
>> >> Once you actually get it working from a plumbing standpoint, the
>> script
>> >> itself is actually a bit trickier to implement than the trivial
>> sample MS
>> >> shows.  You have to decide if you are going to put HTML into HTML
>> body
>> >> parts, text into text body parts, both into messages that have
>> both, and
>> >> what to do about signed messages, as the disclaimer will change
>> the data
>> >> and invalidate the digital signature.  You also need to be careful
>> you
>> >> don't screw up the encoding of messages in non-ASCII or ISO-8859-1
>> >> character sets. You can also decide if you want to add the
>> disclaimer to
>> 

Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
"*NOTE:* For single server configurations there is an issue that may 
prevent the described method from working as expected. Microsoft had a 
KB article – Q288756: SMTP Transport Event Does Not Fire For MAPI 
Messages – which was retired because the provided workaround (creating a 
second SMTP Virtual Server) did not always worked in a reliable way. The 
problem occurs for mail that is sent by using a MAPI client, such as 
Outlook, which is not in SMTP format, therefore changes that are made by 
the event's code are not persisted.


If you are in this situation, my advice is for you to use a third party 
product."


FYI --- It may not work on a SBS box ergo why many of us say buy 
something.



Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:

http://www.msexchange.org/articles/Disclaimer-Fun.html

Glutten for punishment aren't ya?

Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
That's what I used, but in VBScript (the brother of the article you 
send).


I indeed can bind that event sink to the default SMTP virtual server,
but I don't see the disclaimers on external addresses. Then I saw that
Marette had instructions involving some manipulation on SMTP in case
you're using SBS.

Which also kinda sounds strange. But when I went digging a little bit,
I found that clients working with OL, will not have the disclaimer
added (MAPI). Finally I'm having the impression that this is kinda
made difficult while it should be easy by design... Or I'm a missing
something on that point?

It's not about the money, at least I don't pay it so don't care. From
my point of view, it's the technical aspect that I want to know how
it's structured and how to make it work really. That way I gain the
knowledge :-)

Bart

On 8/3/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Are you using the SBS's SMTP connector or using the
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=317327 info there?

Marette's instructions to remove the SBS's native smtp connection, 
build

a new one that listens on port 26, the time it would have taking me to
follow her instructions.. I saved the time and money in getting out my
credit card and buying an event sink already done.



Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
> Thanks all!
>
> Now the reason that I want to use the Event Sink way is because there
> is no more need then that... And like said, GFI is no longer. Neither
> the doc on Smallbizz.
>
> I know there is a manipulation needed on SMTP level, but I just don't
> see it. If somebody knows the little trick (was it an additional
> connector or virtual server)...?
>
> Thanks for the other inputs so far.
> Bart
>
> On 8/3/06, Joe Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sure, I saw the message and remembered that we were still using a
>> disclaimer
>> script for this, so I thought I'd offer some help, but a word of 
caution

>> about the fact that the script can get tricky.
>>
>> With only that many users, many of those problems might never show
>> up. We
>> have a few more users than that (ok, 4 orders of magnitude!), so we
>> see a
>> lot of weird stuff that is hard to even imagine when you are 
testing the

>> code. :)
>>
>> The product is probably a better choice, especially if it is cheap.
>>
>> We really did try to buy a product to do this as we wanted more
>> features and
>> fewer problems (or someone else to blame them on), but only the
>> script had
>> reasonable performance. Everything else brought our gateways to
>> their knees
>> and had to be disabled. I was shocked by this actually. :)
>>
>> Joe K.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 
2K3 box

>>
>>
>> > This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but 
it's
>> > certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange 
server ;-)

>> > Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that
>> server
>> > with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise
>> folks)
>> > of Store.
>> >
>> > (and reading his message.. see why I went with Policypatrol?
>> >
>> > Joe Kaplan wrote:
>> >> We actually use a script at work after having tried a few 
products

>> and
>> >> having terrible performance problems. If you are interested, I'll
>> ping
>> >> one of the exchange guys and see if he can provide a little
>> direction.
>> >>
>> >> O

Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

I'm blessed I know :-)

That article I didn't came accross last night actually. Although the
info in that artcile I already did find. Performace isn't an issue btw
(min. 10 users).

Like I said before: I find this a real missing feature of Exchange...
As the author states, it's the most commonly asked question and
Exchange doesn't provide a nice GUI in which you can enable it.

On 8/3/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://www.msexchange.org/articles/Disclaimer-Fun.html

Glutten for punishment aren't ya?

Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
> That's what I used, but in VBScript (the brother of the article you
> send).
>
> I indeed can bind that event sink to the default SMTP virtual server,
> but I don't see the disclaimers on external addresses. Then I saw that
> Marette had instructions involving some manipulation on SMTP in case
> you're using SBS.
>
> Which also kinda sounds strange. But when I went digging a little bit,
> I found that clients working with OL, will not have the disclaimer
> added (MAPI). Finally I'm having the impression that this is kinda
> made difficult while it should be easy by design... Or I'm a missing
> something on that point?
>
> It's not about the money, at least I don't pay it so don't care. From
> my point of view, it's the technical aspect that I want to know how
> it's structured and how to make it work really. That way I gain the
> knowledge :-)
>
> Bart
>
> On 8/3/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Are you using the SBS's SMTP connector or using the
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=317327 info there?
>>
>> Marette's instructions to remove the SBS's native smtp connection, build
>> a new one that listens on port 26, the time it would have taking me to
>> follow her instructions.. I saved the time and money in getting out my
>> credit card and buying an event sink already done.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bart Van den Wyngaert wrote:
>> > Thanks all!
>> >
>> > Now the reason that I want to use the Event Sink way is because there
>> > is no more need then that... And like said, GFI is no longer. Neither
>> > the doc on Smallbizz.
>> >
>> > I know there is a manipulation needed on SMTP level, but I just don't
>> > see it. If somebody knows the little trick (was it an additional
>> > connector or virtual server)...?
>> >
>> > Thanks for the other inputs so far.
>> > Bart
>> >
>> > On 8/3/06, Joe Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Sure, I saw the message and remembered that we were still using a
>> >> disclaimer
>> >> script for this, so I thought I'd offer some help, but a word of
>> caution
>> >> about the fact that the script can get tricky.
>> >>
>> >> With only that many users, many of those problems might never show
>> >> up.  We
>> >> have a few more users than that (ok, 4 orders of magnitude!), so we
>> >> see a
>> >> lot of weird stuff that is hard to even imagine when you are
>> testing the
>> >> code.  :)
>> >>
>> >> The product is probably a better choice, especially if it is cheap.
>> >>
>> >> We really did try to buy a product to do this as we wanted more
>> >> features and
>> >> fewer problems (or someone else to blame them on), but only the
>> >> script had
>> >> reasonable performance.  Everything else brought our gateways to
>> >> their knees
>> >> and had to be disabled.  I was shocked by this actually.  :)
>> >>
>> >> Joe K.
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: 
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:24 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS
>> 2K3 box
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > This is an SBS box. we may have performance problems.. but it's
>> >> > certainly not caused by a SMTP sink event on that Exchange
>> server  ;-)
>> >> > Remember at the most we're only hosting 75 users/devices on that
>> >> server
>> >> > with a max of 75 gigs (remember no snickering from the Enterprise
>> >> folks)
>> >> > of Store.
>> >> >
>> >> > 

Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Paul Williams
I've done this a couple of times, but on the exchange gateway servers, not 
on an SBS box.  I've never seen SBS.


Anyway, the easiest way to do this is to create a second virtual SMTP server 
and set it to listen on port 26 (and send on 25).  Configure the first 
virtual server to send on 26 (its already listening on 25).  Then register 
the sink on the second virtual server.


The reason is that most of your clients are MAPI clients, so don't trigger 
the SMTP sink.


If you're using a connector, you need to point the second virtual server at 
the connector (I think, it's been even longer since I did one where they had 
an SMTP connector).


I'm afraid I can't give you the scripts as they're at customer sites, etc. 
One thing I will say is troubleshooting this is a real pain.  On one problem 
I had Dev Support MSFT people help out.  We took it from the bottom up. 
Unregistered all the sinks (that I'd registered, the VBS script you use to 
register allows you to view all sinks) and then registered a new one that 
simply created a text file on the D drive.


As you're using VBS, not VB, ensure that you use absolute paths for things 
like text files, etc. as the script will run and not error without absolute 
paths but they won't work...



--Paul

- Original Message - 
From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ActiveDir" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:41 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box



Hi guys,

I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.

Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
the little secret for this? *g*

Many thanks to all,
Bart
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

Thanks Paul, as they are currently working (GMT+1), I will test again
this evening and post my findings here.

As you pointed out: troubleshooting is a real pain in the ass... Yes
I'm using VBScript, I have more experience with that then VB itself
and that makes it more easy for me.

Indeed MAPI Clients => Outlook! What a wonderfull world we live in...
I thought that they communicate with MAPI towards the Exchange server
which sends out in SMTP format. So I have a real problem with
understanding why MS didn't provide the feature themselves built-in.

Perhaps it's an idea for them for the future releases. They are
working on a lot of tools (ex. IMF) themselves to cut the need of
third-party tools, but something essential like this (I think it's
standard for a company to have a disclaimer, not?) is not available in
GUI and needs quiet some manipulation. Additionally the exception of
working with SBS and having the SMTP connector to be able to forward
mail to the SMTP of your ISP.

I know I keep hanging on that point, but I think I'm not the only one.

On 8/3/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've done this a couple of times, but on the exchange gateway servers, not
on an SBS box.  I've never seen SBS.

Anyway, the easiest way to do this is to create a second virtual SMTP server
and set it to listen on port 26 (and send on 25).  Configure the first
virtual server to send on 26 (its already listening on 25).  Then register
the sink on the second virtual server.

The reason is that most of your clients are MAPI clients, so don't trigger
the SMTP sink.

If you're using a connector, you need to point the second virtual server at
the connector (I think, it's been even longer since I did one where they had
an SMTP connector).

I'm afraid I can't give you the scripts as they're at customer sites, etc.
One thing I will say is troubleshooting this is a real pain.  On one problem
I had Dev Support MSFT people help out.  We took it from the bottom up.
Unregistered all the sinks (that I'd registered, the VBS script you use to
register allows you to view all sinks) and then registered a new one that
simply created a text file on the D drive.

As you're using VBS, not VB, ensure that you use absolute paths for things
like text files, etc. as the script will run and not error without absolute
paths but they won't work...


--Paul

- Original Message -
From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ActiveDir" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:41 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box


> Hi guys,
>
> I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box.
> I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box is
> configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
> forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.
>
> Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell me
> the little secret for this? *g*
>
> Many thanks to all,
> Bart
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread victor-w
"Perhaps it's an idea for them for the future releases"

The functionality has been implemented in EX2K7.

Cheers,

Victor

- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
Van: Bart Van den Wyngaert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Datum: donderdag, augustus 3, 2006 12:10 pm
Onderwerp: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 
box

> Thanks Paul, as they are currently working (GMT+1), I will test again
> this evening and post my findings here.
> 
> As you pointed out: troubleshooting is a real pain in the ass... Yes
> I'm using VBScript, I have more experience with that then VB itself
> and that makes it more easy for me.
> 
> Indeed MAPI Clients => Outlook! What a wonderfull world we live in...
> I thought that they communicate with MAPI towards the Exchange server
> which sends out in SMTP format. So I have a real problem with
> understanding why MS didn't provide the feature themselves built-in.
> 
> Perhaps it's an idea for them for the future releases. They are
> working on a lot of tools (ex. IMF) themselves to cut the need of
> third-party tools, but something essential like this (I think it's
> standard for a company to have a disclaimer, not?) is not 
> available in
> GUI and needs quiet some manipulation. Additionally the exception of
> working with SBS and having the SMTP connector to be able to forward
> mail to the SMTP of your ISP.
> 
> I know I keep hanging on that point, but I think I'm not the only 
> one.
> On 8/3/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've done this a couple of times, but on the exchange gateway 
> servers, not
> > on an SBS box.  I've never seen SBS.
> >
> > Anyway, the easiest way to do this is to create a second virtual 
> SMTP server
> > and set it to listen on port 26 (and send on 25).  Configure the 
> first> virtual server to send on 26 (its already listening on 25). 
> Then register
> > the sink on the second virtual server.
> >
> > The reason is that most of your clients are MAPI clients, so 
> don't trigger
> > the SMTP sink.
> >
> > If you're using a connector, you need to point the second 
> virtual server at
> > the connector (I think, it's been even longer since I did one 
> where they had
> > an SMTP connector).
> >
> > I'm afraid I can't give you the scripts as they're at customer 
> sites, etc.
> > One thing I will say is troubleshooting this is a real pain.  On 
> one problem
> > I had Dev Support MSFT people help out.  We took it from the 
> bottom up.
> > Unregistered all the sinks (that I'd registered, the VBS script 
> you use to
> > register allows you to view all sinks) and then registered a new 
> one that
> > simply created a text file on the D drive.
> >
> > As you're using VBS, not VB, ensure that you use absolute paths 
> for things
> > like text files, etc. as the script will run and not error 
> without absolute
> > paths but they won't work...
> >
> >
> > --Paul
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "ActiveDir" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:41 PM
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box
> >
> >
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 
> 2K3 box.
> > > I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The 
> box is
> > > configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
> > > forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.
> > >
> > > Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please 
> tell me
> > > the little secret for this? *g*
> > >
> > > Many thanks to all,
> > > Bart
> > > List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
> > > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
> > > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx
> >
> > List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
> > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
> > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ml/threads.aspx
> >
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> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Michael B. Smith
The feature is in Exchange 2007. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bart Van den
Wyngaert
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:10 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

Thanks Paul, as they are currently working (GMT+1), I will test again
this evening and post my findings here.

As you pointed out: troubleshooting is a real pain in the ass... Yes
I'm using VBScript, I have more experience with that then VB itself
and that makes it more easy for me.

Indeed MAPI Clients => Outlook! What a wonderfull world we live in...
I thought that they communicate with MAPI towards the Exchange server
which sends out in SMTP format. So I have a real problem with
understanding why MS didn't provide the feature themselves built-in.

Perhaps it's an idea for them for the future releases. They are
working on a lot of tools (ex. IMF) themselves to cut the need of
third-party tools, but something essential like this (I think it's
standard for a company to have a disclaimer, not?) is not available in
GUI and needs quiet some manipulation. Additionally the exception of
working with SBS and having the SMTP connector to be able to forward
mail to the SMTP of your ISP.

I know I keep hanging on that point, but I think I'm not the only
one.

On 8/3/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've done this a couple of times, but on the exchange gateway servers,
not
> on an SBS box.  I've never seen SBS.
>
> Anyway, the easiest way to do this is to create a second virtual SMTP
server
> and set it to listen on port 26 (and send on 25).  Configure the first
> virtual server to send on 26 (its already listening on 25).  Then
register
> the sink on the second virtual server.
>
> The reason is that most of your clients are MAPI clients, so don't
trigger
> the SMTP sink.
>
> If you're using a connector, you need to point the second virtual
server at
> the connector (I think, it's been even longer since I did one where
they had
> an SMTP connector).
>
> I'm afraid I can't give you the scripts as they're at customer sites,
etc.
> One thing I will say is troubleshooting this is a real pain.  On one
problem
> I had Dev Support MSFT people help out.  We took it from the bottom
up.
> Unregistered all the sinks (that I'd registered, the VBS script you
use to
> register allows you to view all sinks) and then registered a new one
that
> simply created a text file on the D drive.
>
> As you're using VBS, not VB, ensure that you use absolute paths for
things
> like text files, etc. as the script will run and not error without
absolute
> paths but they won't work...
>
>
> --Paul
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ActiveDir" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:41 PM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3
box.
> > I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box
is
> > configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
> > forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.
> >
> > Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell
me
> > the little secret for this? *g*
> >
> > Many thanks to all,
> > Bart
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

2006-08-03 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

Hoorah !! :-)

On 8/3/06, Michael B. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The feature is in Exchange 2007.

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Wyngaert
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:10 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box

Thanks Paul, as they are currently working (GMT+1), I will test again
this evening and post my findings here.

As you pointed out: troubleshooting is a real pain in the ass... Yes
I'm using VBScript, I have more experience with that then VB itself
and that makes it more easy for me.

Indeed MAPI Clients => Outlook! What a wonderfull world we live in...
I thought that they communicate with MAPI towards the Exchange server
which sends out in SMTP format. So I have a real problem with
understanding why MS didn't provide the feature themselves built-in.

Perhaps it's an idea for them for the future releases. They are
working on a lot of tools (ex. IMF) themselves to cut the need of
third-party tools, but something essential like this (I think it's
standard for a company to have a disclaimer, not?) is not available in
GUI and needs quiet some manipulation. Additionally the exception of
working with SBS and having the SMTP connector to be able to forward
mail to the SMTP of your ISP.

I know I keep hanging on that point, but I think I'm not the only
one.

On 8/3/06, Paul Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've done this a couple of times, but on the exchange gateway servers,
not
> on an SBS box.  I've never seen SBS.
>
> Anyway, the easiest way to do this is to create a second virtual SMTP
server
> and set it to listen on port 26 (and send on 25).  Configure the first
> virtual server to send on 26 (its already listening on 25).  Then
register
> the sink on the second virtual server.
>
> The reason is that most of your clients are MAPI clients, so don't
trigger
> the SMTP sink.
>
> If you're using a connector, you need to point the second virtual
server at
> the connector (I think, it's been even longer since I did one where
they had
> an SMTP connector).
>
> I'm afraid I can't give you the scripts as they're at customer sites,
etc.
> One thing I will say is troubleshooting this is a real pain.  On one
problem
> I had Dev Support MSFT people help out.  We took it from the bottom
up.
> Unregistered all the sinks (that I'd registered, the VBS script you
use to
> register allows you to view all sinks) and then registered a new one
that
> simply created a text file on the D drive.
>
> As you're using VBS, not VB, ensure that you use absolute paths for
things
> like text files, etc. as the script will run and not error without
absolute
> paths but they won't work...
>
>
> --Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bart Van den Wyngaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ActiveDir" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:41 PM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT - Adding disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3 box
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm having trouble with adding a disclaimer on E2K3 on a SBS 2K3
box.
> > I'm using the EventSink with a .vbs to add the disclaimer. The box
is
> > configured with a default SMTP server and a SMTP connector which
> > forwards all external email to the SMTP of the ISP.
> >
> > Anybody who has done the trick already? If so, can you please tell
me
> > the little secret for this? *g*
> >
> > Many thanks to all,
> > Bart
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